The Captain's Commentaries - Civilian HvZ Loadout Advice
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- Just some of my thoughts on Human Loudouts for HvZ. I'd love to see and hear about your loadouts.
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I find it funny when people saw my lightly modded longshot at endwar, and said what is the point of it? If you can just get a retaliator and put a pump kit on it. I use it because I can get pot shots accurately (brassed....) and it isn't hard enough to where I would complain of getting hit with it point blank (only hitting around 100 fps) as well as a pump kit on it. The point is, is that it worked and I made the whole thing myself, the only part of it that I bought from the store was the brass, I used double longshot springs, brass from the local hardware, longshot from garage sale, and I used any other things from local/my own stashes. I loved it but when it was *too humid out* it failed because darts swelled too much to fit in the breech, so I will say this to new players. Make multiple mediocre primaries and secondaries. Because you might end up like me with a strongarm and sweet revenge. But brought 1000+ darts because I thought I would be spewing. Just a lesson learned, and a lesson I'd like to share with new players.
Excellent points!
When the Infinus comes out, I dare you to minimize one where the sole purpose is to reload magazines.
Graham Turner, you mad man.
I want to mod one where it is a hopper and the reload mech. Then i shove a mag in, it loads it up, and then swap to another.
YEEEEEEES
The Infinus shoot and reload the same way
Actually someone should just copy the reloading mechanism into a stand alone 3d printed product.
I personally used a nemesis and Kronos at Endwar and they worked great for me.
I need to actually start playing Nerf. I use the same Nemesis and Kronos together. Or, a Hades and a Kronos...of course, just with my family and friends. But, I've been modding them for a while now and really am starting to love it more and more.
@@jasonschwartz9481 i want to play but there are not any places near me
At EndWar I ran an Artemis with the pump grip and stock attachment from OoD as my primary. I had a Cycloneshock as a secondary (even though I knew no specials would require Mega) and a Dynamag for pot shots. I like how you promote using blasters that have different purposes for a well rounded loadout.
golly I said boomco is good for hvz I got so much hate already smh
how did the dynamag work out?
I didn't get a chance to use it. I was only there for Mission 1, and all of my encounters were pretty close up.
notfeedy notlazy I was literally just thinking about that!
Sasha: About the modded blasters being inherently less reliable, the modulus stryfe is kinda a notable exception because someone at Hasbro decided making specifically that one have a thermal lockout after like 3-6 depending on fire speed. Although it seems to chew through AAs faster without voltage regulation because we wanted to make sure we get it all, it actually runs really smoothly now without near as much accidental jamming even though that may have hurt the accuracy a bit.
For me, it is a twin set of Snapfire 8s. They do not hit hard compared to modern blasters, but are great fun to use at HvZ.
Trigger finger?
ive been looking for a pair of snapfire 8s to dual wield for a while
afrodamus Or just re-release it as is with a new paint job, something like that would be hard to upgrade given the spring type and the fact it already breaks under it’s current spring load.
I know im two years late to this comment and video but i would literally pay like 300 dollars for a pair of snapfire 8's
So the Rayven I'm working on right now will be good when I go off to university in a couple years. Best engineering school in the area just happens to have an active annual HvZ.
Thanks for making this video I am thinking of joining a nerf group soon after this corona thing is over that does hvz
me too, helpful video
Where can I find events? Ik for airsoft they have websites that show fields and events in every state. Is there something like this for nerf?
In the 9 years I’ve been playing, other blasters have come and gone, but my alpha always stays in my loadout.
*hugs rewired stock stryfe* "Good enough" in every way. Wont hurt, shoots farther than stock, spins up faster. Still... you're not gonna instantly panic shoot someone.
Damn fine choice, sir.
That is why I am planning on running a couple of spring upgraded hammershots, A Turbo Advance with extra drum, and a modded Boomco M6 for pot shots when I can, next year. :)
You bought a second Turbo Advance for the drum, or have they started selling it seperately?
Lol. Well honestly I have yet to buy any turbo advances because they have not started selling them in the wally world's near me. But the plan would probably be to buy two over the rest of this year and into next year. Unless of course zuru actually does start selling them separately, which with how easy it is to take it out I would not put it past them.
Yeah i really hope they do, i've modded mine and with more drums it'd be a great mainstay in hvz, it's already good now. I just can't put it past me to buy drums for 25 each and then tossing out an entire blaster with each purchase.
Lol. Understandable. But just think of it like this. Keep the blasters, if they do start selling the drums separately then you will be able to purchase some new drums for those blasters and have some excellent loaner blasters for wars you may attend. And I like to think of it as spending 25 bucks to not only get the drum, but also a shit ton of extra ammo as well. And honestly those x shot darts are pretty nice.
I have a modified hammershots (not too hard and not too soft/slow) and I run two of them...
In my first game of HvZ I ran 2 Hammershots for normal gameplay, and my Regulator for crowd control. My partner had a Rampage for his primary, a Kronos for his pistol, and a Hyperfire for crowd control.
OMG The zombie survival guide is so good and I that is quite realistically written
Artemis speed loaders should be a thing. Gives you the advantage of both an internal and external magazine.
carry a shit load of kronos speedloaders
The Zombie Survival Guide is indeed a great read. And this is indeed a great video!
"Don't build high power and rate of fire blasters" said the man with the minigun... jk, it's awesome!
I have a fair amount of experience with nerf wars, but never HVZ because I’ve never had a chance to attend a game. I found your emphasis on accuracy interesting because not many players consider that factor. There is one thing I would like to add, that has caused me trouble beyond belief. I run an EAT a lot of the time, I have a basic OMW reinforcement kit with a 6 kilo spring and it works great for all game types and is very reliable. But no matter how reliable the blaster is, if the MAGAZINES I’m using are old, it jams. It has gotten to the point that I’m probably just going to buy 10 new 18 round magazines because I can’t fire more than 2 rounds quickly without any blaster I use jamming. Just something else to take into account.
Every time I go on youtube I look forward to ur new videos
I feel sorry for those poor "civilians" running at the first sign of danger and getting the majority of the slower and less fit players nommed by zombies no wonder the zombies almost always win. Great video Cap'n
Yay! That tactics episode I ordered is on the way! I'm ecstatic!
Cap, Great video love all the great information.
The only thing I disagre with is the lack of high ROF, although it wouldn’t be the best idea to run a 15-DPS rapidstrike the whole time, it will be very useful for crowd control or the last stand. One thing i would like to add is that your load-out should allow you to be very mobile, you never know when you need to make a mad dash away from a hoard during a reload. Anyway, great vid Captain and thank you for the wonderful tips!
You are not entirely wrong. And it is, in fact, possible to alter your loadout based on the mission you are heading into. However, I would still MUCH rather be in a line of Humans with reliable, accurate, pump action blasters who are taking the time to make each shot count then a line of people spraying and praying on full auto. I have seen what happens. Everyone unloads into the first rank of zombies and while they are all reloading the second rank wipes them out. It feels good to be firing full auto. Hollywood has convinced us that full-auto is powerful and that you never run out and that you always kill all the bad guys in a wave of your gun...but that is simply not reality. Not with untrained civilians. I will be covering when full-auto does work in the next video. :) Hopefully with full demonstrations of tactics and everything! :D
Captain Xavier, Thank you for the wisdom!
In my opinion full auto works better in a squad loadout than a civilian one.
I seen a couple of instances of nemesis players in very small groups and solo get picked apart by the horde. Sure it takes the horde a little longer but it still happens. I saw the same with a rapidstrike. Coordination during your reloads help immensely.
I like the Flipfury a lot
Here it is, the vid that made me a fan, less than a minute in and you bring up max Brooks, frankly that was a great read and an all around useful guide, and I thoroughly enjoyed world war Z (the book not that abomination of a movie)
Thanks Cap for your advice on the Retaliator kits for my Retalicon. I've just decided to use the Worker XPT, 12KG spring, and a pump grip.
Awesome, thanks for the tips!
This helped me so much thanks Cap
With a couple small updates, the blasters available now have some great civy loadout candidates as well rival fans can go for the hypnos, the superdrum in every version since it holds 40 darts. My personal favorite, the tomahawk 60 is amazing for this and pistol specific blasters like the fortnite smg and rapid red are good options too. I would also recommend a backpack since you cant rely on a squad so you will need the storage.
it says Loudouts in the description. Also yes, it is my goal to proofread all of your videos. 💜
Well someone clearly needs too. :P
Awesome video! Bangarang
I have a elite load out with my heavily modded stampede, my modded stryfe as a backup, and 8 18 round stick mags plus 2 25 drums. It got me to the end of night 5
My rival loadout has a stock (for now) nemisis with about 300 rounds in paintball pods.
My vortex loadout isn't really ready yet, since i still have to make a boom nitron.
I use super heavy loadout but I'm extremely good at managing my ammunition.
+Demo_the _man though if my hvz doesn't do mag restrictions, im dual wielding 50 belt vulcans on night one.
I think for vortex you should have maybe these blasters
Primary:
•Nitron
•pyragon
•Revomix 360
Secondary
•fuse fire
•Proton(?)
Special
•Diatron
•Pyragon
+Similin I'm doing a modded nitron. The stock nitron has a notoriously bad response time for the trigger, which can be improved massively with upvolting.
This HVZ thing seems to confuse me the more I learn about it lol. It sounds like if I don't have 100 magazines like I'm the Doom marine or Video game James Bond I won't do well at an HVZ event or something xD Is it not worth it to scavenge darts or is it just easier to bring a bunch of mags if you have them handy?
thanks for this one brother
One thing that was not mentioned is Socks. As long as the rules allow them, always carry socks balled up. They don't jam and you can keep one always in your hand for those moments that a blaster cannot save you.
When I am running with my squad for a game of HvZ I will switch to a sock only load out. The tank zombies can only be stunned by socks and I am not weighed down by large amounts of gear.
A very good point. At WvZ the only thing that could stun Black Knights were socks. There is also the Legend of Sock Guy!
Nice video
For Mega Darts, what do you think a first-timer's best option is? There's the Tri-Strike Barrel, Magnus Key, and the Little Rocket line. I currently have a Tri-Strike Barrel, but I think I'm just gonna get a crooked cousin as a foregrip and 3 proud papa's. Idk tho.
Practice makes perfect
Have u tested the out of darts flywheels they are supposed to be for hvz there the instato
Guessing the Magnum Super Drum will work fine since it has an incredibley high capacity and slamfire if you need it? Or is top prime a problem?
It is top prime but the high capacity, slamfire, power, and reliability make up for that.
Hey cap, what do you think of mag backpack? I know you have one but im talking like a carius style gravity fed mag dispenser
I have seen a few good ones. I want to make one.
Can you please explain the H v Z game type. Like when you say the military force and the collage game thing.
Ha! Jolt is my primary, when I wear my blue killer bear mask I get singled out every time lol
I have a recommendation for these every so often videos, is have the schedule in the description.
Every 4 weeks
I have a demolisher with a masterkey sledgefire but the paint job isn't done because whenever I go to finish it I end up just playing around with it because it's so much fun 😂
I was thinking about a stryfe running 2 sets of 2 imrs, as in 2 in series and 2 in parallel, so you double your battery life, cause imrs have low capacity. You wouldn't need more than a lightly modified blaster for HvZ anyway like you mentioned. The increased voltage would give you a slightly faster spin up as well.
This is actually a really good idea. All you would have to do is alter the battery tray a little bit.
Captain Xavier I just realized it would be even easier with a stryfe clone with a 4x1 battery tray, i.e. The raven and demolisher. With those you can directly access each battery tab, you would only need the right wiring, no tray modification. Plus the demolisher is a nice pick for hvz cause of the missle and the raven as well due to its compact nature. Also, the demolisher has rather hardy motors, that can take 3 imrs no problem and some say even 4, but I'm not an extremist.
How to prepare for HvZ: Buy a Tri-Strike and a bunch of the types of ammo it uses
Would a proton pack Zeus holding 1000 or so rounds with the following mods: full auto, the blower (it pushes the balls down the tubes) turns on when the rev trigger is pulled, minimized, stock motors, and a 5000mah 3s LiPo be a good choice for primary for HvZ? The rest of my loadout is a 4-victory with an upgraded spring because I can’t find a hammershot, and a Stryfe with Kraken motors, masterkey Magnus, upgraded flywheels and flywheel cage, running on a 3s LiPo. This is a “heavy” kit/play style. Alternatively, I might just run my stock Artemis as a secondary. Still working on these mods but I would appreciate any recommendations/advice.
Is the Demolisher 2in1 any good in your opinion? My local Airsoft store is starting up a Nerf league (stock only to begin with), i picked up a Demolisher cheap from my local ToysR-Us (before they shut down) and i was thinking about running it as my primary
Also is it possible to mod the integrated Demolisher rocket launcher into an Absolver?
Edit. Sorry didn't realise you talked about the Demolisher in the vid but i'm still curious about the launcher
Is a Hypershot good if you can outmaneuver your opponent, cause I play where you don’t go out when you’re hit.
will you replace the artemis for a Hades?,,.,. I'll do it. (my Fav blaster rigth now), also no primed kronos for secondary? :D
I now need to go to an HvZ event, I currently have a Stock Hades, and K25 Kronos, door delete, and greehas grip (Which is my PvP primary😅). Hopefully when I can finally attend an HvZ I'll be with a good group for those tactics
I remember a girl who was playing HvZ and she survived the entire week with nothing but socks. No nerf blasters at all
what about having a jam door-reloadable blaster? (basicly any flywheel blaster with a cutout in the top of it so you can easily reload a magazine while it's in the blaster)
moved to 'cori6487' obviously that falls into the category of blasters that can be easily topped off.
Now you'll see a billion hammershots
After hearing that I don’t need high rate of fire and power I thought “oh I can run my slingfire!”
Absolutely. The slingfire is a fine blaster.
Captain xavier i love your vids i wish i live near you because i want to nerf with you you're a very goofy person " and i love it !"
BIG CHUNGUS not
You should get a dart tag scorpion and put a double dealer mag well on the side
Mine is an xshot vigilante and a hammershot and a ton of darts🤠👍
No nemesis? No socks? I look forward to the next video.
I would like to have a video about very basic agreements for "civilians" in a HVZ game. So that I can have fun as a team without months of training.
2019 and before: Alpha strike 2020 and beyond: Nexus pro
I mean at the nexus pros core it’s just a better alpha trooper. A pump action springer
Rapidstrikes are not to be scoffed at, even though they have high ammunition consumption, full auto is useful when you are being rushed by hordes
I am not scoffing at them. Wait till the next episode. ;)
I usually just run an alpha trooper, 2 hammershots, a dual strike, and of course, the suicide jolt
Perfect HvZ loadout. That is very very close to what I run.
If I’m playing in more open territory, I sometimes take a long shot instead of an alpha trooper.
How does anyone feel about a Slingfire? I've done some practice with it and I can crank out a pretty high rate of fire with an 18 round stick mag for it..if anything my loadout would be rather 'old west' with a Hammershot, cut down Sledge Fire (aka I removed the stock), a Slingfire, a Doubleshot and some sock bombs. Yes I know it's all from the Zombiestrike line but it had a very distinct cobbled together 'old west' feel to some of their blasters so that's why I have them in the first place..that and I only got back into NERF after buying a Zombiestrike blaster for my nephew for his birthday a year or two ago.
If it works and you enjoy it, then go for it!
I’m planning on getting a pump action kit for my retaliator, should I stick with the stock internals?
Up to you.
Hey cap what do you think of HvZ with PVP elements such as a players needing food but there isn't enough so players must fight for the food or die
I have played such games and they are loads of fun.
Raiders, Rampages, Retaliators, Recons...
are you excited for the hades? double artimis sooo
i love that suicide jolt i will buy one only for that
One question; I have, are you able to use custom nerf blasters? Or any muzzle loaded rifles, I made one from a marshmallow blaster and was curious. Since I have never played in a proper nerf war I thought you would be able to help. Thanks.
It depends on the game. Some allow them, some do not. You simply have to ask whoever is in charge.
If the artemis is good, than the hades will be even better. All the same mechanisms as the artemis, but has DOUBLE the ammo capacity.
I recognize that jolt...
how do you find large hvz games? I'm in new york and i don't know what resources are avalable to see which colleges are running games.
Most HvZ are official campus clubs so contact the Campus club coordinator.
I consider the hades to be the best hvz primary that nerf has made. Because let’s be realistic, you’re not going to run through 60 rounds with a springer. You’ll definitely be able to reload at some point, but 60 rounds will last through any single engagement.
Indeed. 60 rd, pump action with slam fire is hard to beat. And as long as you pay attention and make sure to top off every chance you get you are probably going to good to go.
That being said I still favor the Alpha Trooper because it takes magazines. The one downside is to the Hades is that if you do run out of ammo there is no fast what to reload (and I have been in a few engagements where that would have been an issue. Not many, usually last stand type situations). While a 22 rd magazine holds 1/3 that capacity, I can easily carry 6 of them on my vest, giving me double the capacity of a Hades and much faster reloads.
Captain Xavier that’s fair, and I love the alpha trooper to death. I just don’t like carrying a bunch of gear, I prefer to be lighter and more mobile. Just my personal taste
Excellent! That should ALWAYS be the most important factor when deciding what to use. Run a loadout you enjoy running. :)
I'll agree with you on the lack of reliability of modified blasters. However, my Kronos is modified to 6 round capacity with an Apollo spring, and hits hard and fast, and is the most reliable blaster I own.
Yes but that is not what I would call "heavily modified." Simple modifications are usually fine.
Captain Xavier that's true. I didn't do k26 or something along those lines because this way is the best for my play style
Awesome. Whatever works for you is what you should run.
What about that zombie strike glow vortex blaster
I just got a nerf gear up raider for 6 dollars at goodwill... Hee hee hee
Next game I go to I'm going to run a pure meme loadout. I'm thinking a supressed pistol like the one drac made, and just a butt-ton of speedloaders.
Captain Xavier can the Nerf Firefly fly take a k-26
no
For HvZ I carry 2 hammer shots, a pistol stryfe, and the Artemis. Everything is in holsters except the Artemis, which is slung. That way I can use it for my primary and hit from all ranges and I can top up. If I run out, I switch to the stryfe and mow down enemies. Then i got mags and the hammershots
You should pick up the 70 round hades when it comes out, it sounds perfect for your strategy.
Demo_the _man I thought about it but it seems like it's a little big for me cause i'm a pretty small guy
Demo_the _man
60 rounds for hades I’m oppsessed with it I can’t wait for it too come out
Can I ask you why you decided to use the hammershot?
Similin it's one handed
I have the max zombie guide. I have both books he wrote about fighting the dead
How dare you tell me to stay human, I am a Serval Thank you very much!
why isn't the magnum superdrum not mentioned ? it is the best stock HvZ blaster ever !
It obviously falls under the "high capacity" category...which I mention several times.
I'm still here wondering if my Artemis is lemon cause it can be REAL inaccurate 😅
Hey Captain, I'm going to be a freshman at a college this coming fall and to my dismay there is no HvZ club or game or what have you. How would you suggest going about proposing this thing to the head of campus clubs and groups? What I'm referring to is, I don't know how to break it to the guy that a bunch of kids will be "shooting" "guns" at each other. I know it's not that, but how do I make it seem safe and fun enough to the guy to maximize the chances of him saying yes? Thanks for your time.
Open up with the fact that it is played at 700 campuses nation wide. NEVER use the word "gun." Always call them blasters. NEVER use the word "shoot." Also say "tag." It may seem stupid and pointless but it matters.
is it a good option to go with a huge shield and many melee weapons?
Most HvZ's do not allow either shields or melee. But if they do, yes, they would be very effective.
I wish there was HVZ near me
Do you indorce the hadies with the same rules as the artimis
Absolutely. More so actually. It holds twice as much and is easier to reload.
Suicide jolt is my favorite
What is better for hvz a stock infinus or a stock nemesis
Nemesis, no question.
Hey cap I know that this is very late, but is the hades, as a primary, zeus as a secondary with spare mags and a kronos pistol a good loadout? (I prefer all rival tbh)
Thanks👍👌
Sure, if you can find a way to easily carry all that.
@@CaptainXavier I do, doesnt feel too heavy so should be effective,
great video btw👍
Would a Nexus pro be good cause with short darts its shoots at 140-145 fps and with full darts it shoots at 135-140 fps
No idea, haven't got one yet to test with.
@@CaptainXavier ok cause i really want one to test as well cause i sont have none near me and i loved it since lord drak did a rewive
If you endorse the artemis, whats your opinion of the hades for hvz?
I'll give you one guess...
@@CaptainXavier fair enough
I use the Rayven with a 36 drum
Would a sentinel be a good springer primary.
If you can get good at priming and switching mags, then yes. For Wars it is one of the best stock springer primaries because of its power. But power is not important in HvZ. The lever action and mag release on the Sentinel are not optimal for HvZ in my opinion. But both of those issues can be overcome with mods and practice.
Hey Xavier I've recently been looking for a deploy but not sure where to look some advice
And so you know I tried good wills for a while then gave up
Have you tried this neat site I heard about a while ago I cannot remember the name...Abay? UBay? Ibay? Something like that. Any way check it out. ;P
I can’t wait if you open commissions because I just graduated and got lots of money
where is the Q and A for last week?
Q&A is every other week...has been for the last 6 months...
is a stock Nemesis good for HVZ
Could be.
So run my zeus.
Who you callin a Nerf Herder?
You...all of you. :P