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- Ralph Macchio & William Zabka team up to answer your biggest Karate Kid question - Who’s the real bad guy in Cobra Kai? Let us know what you think, down in the comments!
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Daniel Vs. Johnny Debate: Who's The REAL Bad Guy? | Cobra Kai | Netflix
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Johnny continues building a new life, but a face from his past could disrupt his future. Meanwhile, Daniel opens a Miyagi-Do studio to rival Cobra Kai.
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No debate here. The bad guy has been always John Kreese. Johnny is only misguided.
I agree
Kreese is the bad guy in our society. In other settings, (like Vietnam or prison) he is just a survivor.
agreed
He's a bad guy, but I wouldn't say Johnny is bad. It's really Daniels fault they got beef whole time. He just had to back off of Johnny's girl.
Edit: Just clarifying, at the time I hadn't had the chance to watch the karate kid movies yet lmao. I have now tho.
@@slurpdeedeedee Daniel's fault?? hahaha... Johnny had no girl because Ali broke up with him and Daniel didnt even know Johnny existed so knock it off.
The real bad guy is the one who is holding season 3 from being released!!!
Oh definitely that's the true villain
Whoever is holding back releasing season 3 needs a swift Crane Kick!!! No mercy!!!
Yooo nice nice one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hope this comment gets the most likes!
@@juliuscepeda9655 even though I am a miyagi do I have to agree with the no mercy part
Daniel's daughter caused more than 50% of the problems in Cobra Kai
Stoat the Mammal more like 75%. She’s also the reason why Miguel is fighting for his life.
@@matts6551 true shes also the reason Cobra Kai is even around
@@stoatthemammal wasn't Johnny technically already thinking about it before she came into the picture
@@jackboop1429 yea he was the bomb but she was the detonator
@@stoatthemammal it took me way to long to understand what u just said
“No such thing as bad student, only bad teacher.”
-Mr. Miyagi
Hai
Facts
@Precious Durosinmi u want a cookie?
that is what every student should tell the teacher when they get an f
@Prannav Mahesh thank you for gifting me a piece of your beautiful knowledge
I would agree with kreese being the bad guy. As there is no such thing as a bad student only a bad teacher
Then Daniel is the bad guy considering Robbie nearly killed Miguel
I think though that he wasn't taught to be that violent by Daniel but was rather subscribing to his father's morals in order to beat Miguel at his own game. Kreese even in cobra Kai though is the one who is pushing both sides to inevitably fight
@@Avm371998 Not really because Daniel teach defense only. What Miguel decide to do here is not on the teacher fault here. He forgot his teaching.
@@3DAmeno Daniel is a very impulsive person like we saw him doubling the rent for a bunch of small business owners just because he dislikes Johnny ignoring the fact that some of them might end up on the street with their families because they can't afford the rent, that impulsive attitude got picked over by Robbie without them realising it and thats what led to Robbie nearly killing Miguel.
@@Avm371998 it was miguels fault lol. robby sayed that we should figure this out and than miguel cam charging
I had a feeling they would say “It’s whoever you want it to be”.
To be fair, it's really close. Daniel should of never struck back, but Johnny shouldn't of handled things the way he did. They were both kids. It really depends on your influence at the time. Kreese was Johnny's, and Daniel never had anyone before Miyagi. I'd say they both are the bad guys.
Trash if you get bullied, how is fighting back making you the bad guy?
Cuddly Savage He retaliated for being beat up by Johnny at the beach AND was attacked at the football try outs. What else you got?
Cuddly Savage wrong again. the agreement of a temporary truce happened AFTER the halloween party at the cobrai mai dojo. there was no agreement at all. all what happened up to this point is 1) johnny beating up daniel at the beach 2) the cobrai kais attacking daniel at the football game for no reason 3) the cobra kais pushing daniel off a hill severely injuring him, again just to bully him.
after being bullied and ruthlessly ganged up on 3 occasions daniel retaliated by spraying water on johnny. which led to 5 cobrai kais almost killing daniel by beating the shit out of him for spraying water at johnny. a close to death beat down for water, let that sink in.
miyagi was the one saving daniel.
you got anything else? this is too easy give me a hard one.
And also they did push Daniel off his bike when he was just riding home, probably just for entering their dojo
I feel that Johnny has grown much more than Daniel, Daniel can’t get over Cobra Kai
Yah I agree
He shouldn't get over Cobra Kai, they are dangers, compulsive, destructive and haven't changed.
@@f.k6920 you would see, if you watched the show, that Johnny is changing Cobra Kai for the better. The only reason Miguel had issues with judgement is because of Kreese. One of the reasons Johnny was such an asshole was Kreese.
@@grimreaper3076 yeah you're right, they are changing, but they are still in this process, and everything I've said about them is true, and as long as they always strike first, they will struggle to make real change.
Miyagi-do: everyone deserves a second chance
Daniel: but Johnny and cobra kai
I feel like the actor who plays Johnny has a lot more personality in real life.
yes! he’s so funny and dorky. he’s also so kind too.
Guy takes a lot of time for his fans. Got the chance to meet him when he came to London for a convention last year. He spoke with me for like 10 minutes despite a line behind us and even got a selfie with him, despite getting in trouble for it the previous day. Such a nice guy 👍🏻🔥
@@jackcrofts-mullin461 aww that’s sweet
Wow, a washed up celebrity from almost 40 years ago took 10 minutes for you?
@@Tourist-Q. Washed up? Hes on one of the most watched shows on netflix and gets billions of streams for his show, what are you doing with your life?
Johnny is not a bad guy in his heart. He's just the bad boy. A rebel.
He did regret playing dirty at the S1 finale, also he started up cobra kai firstly for helping miguel, kinda. First class in S2 showed that he tries to teach well (punishing being unfair). He has the spirit, but some of kobra kais lessons are flawed since they originate from Kreese. Kresse from his part comes from the war?(before making cobra kai) And since then he hasn't shut up about hypermasculism and such. (Maybe affected by war idk). Jhonny absolutely tries his best but has flawed methods rooting far back, back either to kreese, the war kreese was in, or Jhonnies rivalry with LaRusso.
He honors Albert Camus. We need more rebels in this world.
The badass bad boy
@@justinhaugan1124 kreese is also a victim, damaged in his heart by the war
Johnny isn't a bad guy, he's a badass!
The fact that Johnny graciously accepted defeat, handed Danny his trophy with the words "You deserve this" and Danny completely blew him off says a lot about Johnny. He also punished his class students for fighting dirty. What would be great is to see Johnny and Danny finally set aside their differences to fight Kreese.
Yes
yeah that's what's coming i rekon
actually that’s not true. i just rewatched the movie and at the end johnny says “you’re alright larusso. good match” and daniel says “thanks a lot” just putting that out there !! :)
Yeah : though, johnny didn't even mean it that much
He was mainly trying to show off after his rage as he was likely going for a head charge or perhaps johnny was trying to ground and pound danny mixed martial arts style
The cobra 🐍 kai kar8 group weren't going to leave danny alone after they struck his leg physically and mentally injuring him like the cowardly criminals they were
Want evidence : johnny threatening danny telling him stuff plus the wild strikes he tried on danny
The cobra 🐍 kai karate group would have likely still been after danny along with myagi if johhny won the final tournament match and danny lost however, since johnny acknowledged Danny at the end of the original karate kid film plus johnny stood up to his bully cobra 🐍 kai karate group sensei johnny kreese in the beginning of the sequel johnny deserved and still deserves redemption ☺
No. I think fighting Daniel and winning will settle it
Imagine the dilemma Johnny has to face...his son nearly killed his best student who he treated as son, he no more owns Cobra Kai and only hope to find love again in his life is lost. And they nearly cancelled this show. Thanks you so much Netflix for reviving this show🙏🏼
I didn't know this show was almost cancelled. I would've been heartbroken if it ended on season 2
Faith Thomas Someone tried to cancel the show?
What do you expect if people don't watch it? It was premiered 2 years ago! Casual...
@@diegorivas3340 because no one has TH-cam Red lol. Now it's on a popular steaming service Netflix!
Keep It Pushing
I don’t understand why they didn’t just put it on Netflix and TH-cam read to begin with
Daniels not the bad guy. He just isn’t the good guy. His dark side is revealed and Johnny’s light side begins to grow. They are the same guy and will meet in the middle.
This is what makes the show so perfect. Aside from Kreese there's no actual good or bad.
Daniel tries way to hard to be the babyface here.
Your wrong
@@sergiojrmuwowo4127 youre
I mean, kinda feel like Johnny only did some of the stuff because of his sensei
I’m just gonna put this out there: Aside from Johnny’s issue with Kreese, Samantha has been the cause of every single conflict in the show so far
Robby kinda pushed into bad guy territory during season two with the lies and all that, plus the last episode stuff.
It’s abit like it was Daniel(her father) who started all thoe conflicts with Johny in the first film , like father like daughter!
Samantha really annoys me
Exactly sam gets me so mad she starts problems and then gets mad
I hate Robby. Honestly, the show would have been just as good without him.
This show's sooo good. Why is it sooo good??? All the characters are soo cool and relatable.
Ah yes hawk very relatable... He is a good character tho
@@l.c3994 Hawk was a kid who was bullied all his high school and now he finally has the power the fight back. But power got to his head. Don't tell you've never met such guys. People who used to be your friends but when they start becoming some what cool they felt they are too good for you.
Other than the exception of the final episode the characters and story are very grounded in reality, and instead of it just being a battle between black and white, it’s more so a shade of gray. The story also explorers the past of the characters, so you can see why they make the decisions (whether or not they are right or wrong) and that brings up the question who is really the good guy? This show is a great example of flawed protagonists IMO. Just my 2 cents on the topic
I was going to say the same thing 💯👍🏿 love this show
Johnny carries the show thats why its good
The real bad guy is Samantha. She shows up to a party with another guy and doesn't understand why Miguel is upset? Come on! Then she steps between him and Robby and "accidentally" gets hit? She accuses Tori of stealing with no evidence and when she's proven wrong she doesn't apologize then she kisses her boyfriend which leads to the school rumble and Miguel being hospitalized. She's the true villain of the story
EndGame yes it is Samantha I agree
fax
Yup, I really dislike her, and through all that she went with Robbie while my boy Miguel was trying to get back on her life
Weird she is Danny's kid 🤔. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
It's kind of sad because I originally shipped them together but now I like Tori with Miguel she understands him more than anyone I really hope Robbie finds someone better than Samantha cuz she's a straight up bitch.
[SPOILER FOR SEASON 1]
They conveniently left out the part where Daniel manipulated Johnny's landlord into doubling the rent on the entire strip-mall where Cobra Kai was located. That's really fighting dirty, and it's the kind of rich d-bag move that could ruin a person's livelihood. I think that definitively makes present-day Daniel the bad guy.
Exactly
No
Jonny traumatized Daniel in hs cobra Kai traumatized him so he most likely didn’t want anyone else to experience that trauma
@@marianarosales5583 Mr miyagi once said don't let truma define you, he let that truma destroy his business and family life
Meelo the Great that’s what happens when u have trauma
its a world of greys, they both do bad things during the show. i think daniel is a better teacher. but its mostly johnny's master who is the real evil
Maybe the real bad guy was the friends we made along the way.
On point.
always has been
in this show, pretty much😂
Yeah definitely
Freddy fernandez and his so called buddies who encouraged the beach conflict then proceeded to taunt danny and treated him just like a crab when he lost
What a bunch of posers and hypocrites galore
The real bad guy is Blast
They both are good guys just have been mislead and made mistakes
💚💘💓💕
Agree
Probably the most mature answer I have seen here!
@@Alexandra-rb7ju honestly lol
Well not everyone in Cobra Kai did move on, Dutch is in prison lol
The true bad guy is.....Eisenhower for starting Vietnam war. Making Creece crazy.
More like LBJ
no that army captain that recruited Creece, he basically made Creece crazy
@@hyml_300 kreese* but yh
The tyrue bad guy is Washington for creating the USA
The true bad guy is.... Gavrilo Princip for assassinating Archduke Franz Ferdinand which led to WW1 which led to WW2 which led to the Cold War which led to the Vietnam War which led to Kreese going crazy.
i regret watching both seasons in less than 24 hours
now im obsessed with it
Yea now we’ve gotta wait half a year lmao
I did the same thing. Same result.
JonesiBoy Beastmode y’all gotta wait like 4 months we’ve been waiting for 2 years lmao
SAME
Big Hairy Sach faxx
Real bad guy is Daniel's daughter. She starts like 80% of the problems.
She legit was too friendly with Robbie and as a girl myself you never do that crap when you already have a boyfriend, like sis? Huh?? Then her bitch ass gets all mad when Miguel gets a new girlfriend- what was she expecting? OH that’s not all she KISSED Miguel when he already had a relationship with Tori, then acts all innocent when Tori calls her out. It’s her fault the whole school war broke out, It’s her fault Miguel is in the hospital and she has the AUDACITY to cry for him like weren’t you with Robbie sweetie?
@@boredperson7086 and the worst part is she said "Robbie what did u do"
Sam and Robby, Robby wont accept that Johnny wants to be in his life and is just over all an ass. Sam brings robby to a party and doesn’t understand why he’s mad and plays the victim when she steps in between them.
@@999shittayeediting2 it’s not Robbies fault he’s like that, his mom manipulated him into hating his father and the way Robbies life was, I’m surprised he didn’t end up worse, he’s actually a good guy considering the way he was raised
@@999shittayeediting2 pretty sure it is a human right for kids to be shitty to their parents
It's a trick question, the real bad guy is Netflix, & their Cuties film.
Facts
In b4 pedophilia defenders
ThEY aRe JUsT ExPResSiNg ThEm SeLvES
Jam Drew who do you meen?
Cuties is meant to be a criticism for over sexualising culture. Netflix just made a poor choice with the poster.
I feel like they're both good guys with human flaws
If Daniel hadn’t met Miyagi,
he would’ve ended up like how he almost did in The Karate Kid Part III.
Yeah he does have problems with his ego, anger management, patience, going after girls in relationships. Lol
DEEEEAAAAAADDDDDD!!!!
gay
All three of you who replied after @Mental Deviant have some issues going on
just two teenger fighting for a girl...
Definitely Kreese. He poisoned Johnny's heart and mind.
I don’t think Johnny really was, because since the first movie Johnny didn’t want to fight Daniel at the beach, when Krease told him to hurt Daniel at the tournament, Johnny didn’t really want to, and even when he lost the tournament Johnny was happy with 2nd place, he thought the still did good, even over the fact that he lost with an illegal kick, Daniel literally did not win because if that was the case then Johnny would’ve gotten the win when they gave him a warning too, everyone knows that was an illegal kick, they just felt bad for Johnny, but you didn’t see Johnny as a teen arguing over the win with the judges, he could’ve said the same thing like Older Daniel said “you don’t know the history here” I always saw Daniel as an ass
And still doing so with his new students. Poor Hawk
Not just johnny but the whole Cobra Kai reborn
LilGrimey5Star it wasn’t illegal
LilGrimey5Star punches to the face were illegal not kicks
Neither are bad guys, John kreese is.
Lawrence is just trying to make the best of poor choices and attitude.
Larusso has been given a gift of abundance, yet is still insecure.
Both men have poor qualities. Yet are fundamentally good men.
Yet....
Season 3 will see both men setting aside their differences to fight the real bad guy Kreese.
I have a big feeling Johnny is gonna form his own dojo, like “iron eagle”
@@Enraged-vu2vb I hope he forms his own dojo
Sam is the bad ine
Res, neither is a bad guy? Both had flaws like anyone.
You just predicted season 3
Daniel and Johnny are basically the yin and yang of each other, they're soul brothers, they just don't realize it yet. Johnny is the "tiger" and Daniel is the "Dragon".
The Tiger is symbolic of the physical world, while the Dragon signifies the mental and Spiritual world. I google it..Lol
I like it 👌🏻
I googled it lol
They all have their moments of being pricks... which is why I love this show. No one's perfect, just like in real life.
Exactly bro
They're both clearly behaving like children. Johnny still denies ever doing anything wrong- and when he does, he sees it was just.
Danny is still hung up on stuff that happened years ago (yes, I know he clearly has ptsd but still). He's let personal grudges cloud his judgment.
just two teenger fighting for a girl...
Definitely. They are or were in charge of young people who look up to them and their behavior.
The trurh is, if they just sat n and had an honest convo they'd see they have lots in common
@@zerodetarnlix yes omg my husband kept saying the same thing. He was like so in 35 years no talk chat anything lol
@@aliciaveal1284 yea, all of it could have been avoid if they gave each other the benefits of the doubt. Johnny was trying to change but because daniel could only see whst happened in the past he was on the offensive, n because johnny blames daniel for whst happened in the past, he to was on the offensive. Some of the best moments were when they just spoke, in the bar then later at that restaurant. Even when Sam got drunk, Johnny was just trying to protect her n Robbie, n wanted Daniel to came down before going in n exploding
The movie did establish that johnny wasnt a bad guy when he handed danny the trophy
At the end
If anyone is the bad guy it’s Kreese
At the end.....of the very first movie......while still a teenager.
Not too bad actually.
And the show completely ignores that. It actually couldn't work if they show that clip to us because the entire premise falls apart.
YES! I got so into Cobra Kai I rewatched Karate Kid and actually loved it even more than the first time I saw it. They even play a lot of the same music which was a really nice touch. But it definitely doesn’t fit with the series because in Cobra Kai we are led to believe that Johnny never got over this lose and his life spiraled downwards for 34 years afterwards. In the movie he is over the loss in like 2 seconds, lol. Both are great though, there is not a single character who is strictly a black and white good/bad guy. I guess the closest is altered, but he is even made more sympathetic when you here how he has spent the last 10 years of his life in halfway homes. Even though he is the only villain of the story, I really hope he gets redeemed by the end.
The show is just ridiculously good, far better than anyone ever thought it could be. Everyone involved should be so proud of what they've achieved so far.
The real bad guy is the soccer ball in the first movie
😂😂😂
Squicx nah it’s the car in larusso auto
It's actually Ali's radio.
the soccer ball and radio conspired to start off this epic rivalry lol!!!
The new job that made them move
*They're BOTH good guys. Johnny was never my favorite in the films, but this series gave him the chance to grow. To change. If these two joined forces, they'd be unstoppable. I hope in season 3 they see the error in both of their ways (neither is perfect, both make mistakes) and realize they can exist without having to be enemies. I hope they see what their rivalry did to those they love (if you saw the season 2 finale you know what I mean) and realize it needs to end once and for all. Team up, kick Kreese's ass together, and show their kids and students that karate doesn't mean violence is the first resort or only option.* 💃🏻
exactly
Yeah I'm impressed with the character development in the show it's way better than almost anything I've ever seen
I also loved how the 2nd last episode of both seasons they actually connect and talk some stuff out. That was really enjoyable until everything goes to shit in the finale 😂
@@mikk. yessss! This is what I'm saying! They dangled the friendship in front of us and yanked it away!
That would be really great to see!
No one is the bad guy. For several movies we always got Daniel's POV, therefore we always rooted for him. It was easier. The great thing with Cobra Kai is, they opened up Johnny POV to us and his past and brought us into his world for once and IMHO, it's been a true joy to watch. William Zabka deserves an Emmy. They are the same, but different. Daniel just happened to have more stability in his life.
Kreese is
This is true but also have such a good life makes Daniel look down on Johnny..not even knowing his story and whenever a issue arises he first to jump to conclusions...im like he has a successful car dealership why bother with a small business owner but his i guess mistrust or jealousy for Johnny is strong he is willing to neglect his own business and family to beat him
Ahem... Kreese...
Yin Yang
Agreed im tired of this debate they just need to hug it out and get over it. They're alot alike and they clearly value each other opinions or they wouldn't fight like that
I think this story is meant to show there are more sides than just good vs evil. Daniel has done a lot of good in the show, taking in robbie, teaching his students to be peaceable. He also shows bad qualities: obsession, refusal to let things go or think differently, but most if not all of those behaviors are induced by trauma, which is realistic. On the other hand johnny shows some promising qualities, wanting to change cobra kai, taking in kids who are considered "losers".
That being said he has some serious self confidence issues when it comes to kreese. Giving up his dojo too easily, flying off the handle and getting into petty fights, not being there for his only son.
This story isn't good vs evil like the old karate kids, it's about realistic people who have issues trying to cope and get along, doing what they believe is right. We see many times in the show that while daniel and johnnys teaching methods are vastly different, more often than not they achieve the same result and are both effective.
I like the way u wrote this 😊
Here's the real bully
Sons of Zabka
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Ali: Karate Kid's Real Villain
I’ve seen “The Karate Kid” 7924 times. It is one of those films from my Youth that continues to re-enter my life (and my DVD Player). As a kid, I once faked being sick just to stay home and watch KK on HBO. You did things like that if you were a movie geek in the 80’s. The TV Guide was my constant companion. Since 1984, I have memorized its dialogue, overanalyzed the plot, worn out the soundtrack on vinyl, cassette and CD…for God’s sake; this website is named after the villain of this movie…or more accurately; this website is named after who is perceived to be the villain of this movie. It’s been 27 years since its theatrical release and as an overly knowledgeable and obsessive fan, it’s finally time to reveal the truth…the real villain of “The Karate Kid” is Ali (with an I).

A quick review of the plot; Lonely High School kid moves cross country into a new town…complications arise when he tries to fit into his new environment. Honestly, if you haven’t seen KK by now, you should jump off the highest mountain in Okinawa…for real.
In this article; I will outline specific scenes and details of how the Film convinced the audience that the villain was Johnny Lawrence (played to perfection by the great William Zabka). I will then prove how Ali (ably portrayed by Elisabeth Shue) flew under the radar as the true villain of this film. Science and shit…what up?
The Beach Party

New kid in town, Daniel Larusso (Ralph Macchio) attends a Beach Party and catches a glimpse of the blonde, blue eyed beauty, Ali. Sparks fly. Daniel tries to woo Ali by juggling a soccer ball (obviously, Daniel has no skillz with the ladies). The party is innocently crashed by the ‘Cobra Kai’…five 17 year old guys from a local Karate Dojo who ride motorcycles.
A few important notes need to be mentioned here:
1. The leader of the Cobra Kai (Johnny Lawrence) expresses regret to his buddies about his reputation as a 'Degenerate". He speaks of hoping for a new start to reinvent himself in the upcoming school year. "I have one year to make it work…and that’s what I’m gonna do…make it work.“ There is no way that Johnny went to the Beach that night looking for a fight.
2. It seems that all of the other party-goers (sans Ali) are happy to see the Cobras. There are high fives, laughing and no signs of violence anywhere. Just a bunch of kids enjoying an end of summer party.
Alas, Johnny sees Ali, an ex-girlfriend of just a few weeks, and decides to confront her about their break-up. While Johnny tries to make amends, Ali becomes confrontational by taunting her ex with the volume control on her boom box…real mature. Unable to get through to her, he disgustedly throws the boom box to the ground. Daniel picks up the radio against Johnny’s warnings ('Don’t touch it punk!’) and a fight ensues. Halfway through the ass-kicking, Ali pleads; "Alright, let’s go somewhere and talk!” Really Ali??? Really? Too little too late. If she had just taken 5 minutes to clear the air earlier, all of this madness would have been avoided. Instead, she caused unnecessary drama. She wanted to create friction and have two men fighting over her. Was this all a plan to boost her ego and make Johnny jealous? I think it was.
Soccer Tryouts
Thanks to Ali, Daniel-san starts the school year as a social outcast with a black eye. His friends from the beach party don’t want anything to do with him. Can you blame them? Homeboy started a fight with the Cobra 'Freakin’ Kai! No thanks pal! At least Daniel has his juggling skills which will certainly gain him a spot on the High School Soccer team….that is, until he runs into Ali again. Ali apologizes for the friction that she may have caused. "I should have just given it (the radio) to him (Johnny).“ Oh ya think Ali??? It would have saved Daniel’s face, friendships and reputation. Was this harmless flirting…I don’t think so. Ali knows that Johnny and the Cobra Kai are also trying out for the team and watching their every move. Why wouldn’t she pursue Daniel in private especially after the ass kicking Daniel endured the night before? Because she LOVES DRAMA!!! She also fails to give Daniel her name until the very end of the convo…by the way it’s Ali (with an I). Freakin Tease. Underscored by Bananaramma’s Cruel Summer, the Kai get Daniel kicked off the team. Fun fact; it’s not even Johnny who attacks Larusso…it’s the perennial All Valley tournament runner up, Bobby Brown (no, not Roni Tenderoni).
Golf N Stuff
Ali and Daniel go out on a date. On Ali’s suggestion, they decide to go to a local hot spot called 'Golf N Stuff’. Really? What the hell was Ali thinking? "Hmmmm, is there a place we can go where I know that everyone at our school (including my jealous ex-boyfriend) is going to be on a Friday night?” Come on! Go to a movie! Go to the Mall! Go to Mr. Miyagi’s house! Why must you showboat in front of your ex? Inevitably, Johnny and his crew show up in a convertible and ask Ali if she wants to go cruising. Note: Johnny makes a slight effort to bury the hatchet with Daniel as well…'Your friend can come to, if it’s ok with his Mommy.’ Sure it was a little shot at DL’s ego, but I wouldn’t have been surprised if a friendship could have been established if Daniel had simply hopped in the car. Of course, right on cue, Mrs. Larusso pulls up in her embarrassing green station wagon. Fail. Golf N Stuff is probably not the best place to go for an intimate first date. However; if you want to needle your ex with jealousy, this is the place to be.
The Country Club
By some miracle, Daniel gets a second date with this Demon-woman. Ali suggests that Daniel pick her up at her Parent’s Country Club…you know…the same Country Club where Johnny and his family are members. Are you kidding me? She could have met him anywhere, but nooooooo…she is evil. On her Parent’s recommendation (they know a good guy when they see one), they instruct Ali to dance with Johnny. Signals are crossed and Johnny kisses her (a Pimp move). Daniel sees this and crashes into a waiter carrying 421 plates of Spaghetti (it was Italian night apparently). His all white outfit is stained in sauce (white jeans, come on Danny!). Embarrassed, he bolts for Miyagi’s (weird?). Ali meanwhile punches Johnny in the mouth…spraining her hand in the process. Anger Management. Manipulative and violent…not the best attributes to have in a woman.
The Tournament
That She-Devil pretends to be a Japanese Translator in order to stand ringside at the All Valley U-17 Tournament in Daniel’s corner. Enough is enough. How is this allowed? She should be in the stands with a ticket stub and a sno-cone. Imagine Johnny’s humiliation. Now he has to defend his title with his ex-girlfriend in the corner of his eye the entire evening. Such a Judas. When will she stop with the mind games? Larusso and Lawrence meet in the finals where Daniel gets a fluky 3-2 victory. Johnny, showing his true colors, presents the Championship trophy to Daniel and yells; “You’re alright Larusso! Great Match!” Yes, the assumed villain of KK turns out to be a classy, good sport while Ali basks in the glow of Daniel’s Championship…I ain’t sayin she’s a Gold Digga…
The Aftermath- Karate Kid 2
The cinema patrons who thought that Ali and Daniel-san would live happily ever after were basically punched in the stomach from the start of Karate Kid 2. Daniel shows up at Miyagi’s with a damaged car and a broken heart. A quick off screen recap: Ali borrows his beloved car, crashes it and breaks up with him…admitting to 'falling in love with some guy from UCLA.’ WHAT!!??!! That Bitch! Using Daniel in the first movie to make her ex jealous…and now breaking up with him when something better comes along.
Essentially the beginning of KK 2 renders the original love story from Karate Kid useless. We were led to believe that Daniel and Ali were as star crossed as Romeo and Juliet…two people from opposite sides of the tracks trying to come together. Ali is meant to be a likable girl who sees something in Daniel that he can’t see in himself. I think it’s been proven that she’s a manipulative witch with anger issues. She’s still hot though. William Zabka is vindicated.
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Even the old Karate Kid wasn't good versus evil, it was just Daniel's story so we were seeing what he was seeing. But Johnny and Daniel were both jerks.
@Zahara Williams True, but the narritive heavily implied that Daniel was innocent and Johnny was bad.
The show is really effective of making no clear cut bad guys. They’re both dealing with trauma, Johnny from the way he was taught and Danny they way he was bullied.
And Creese is also messed up from his past and what he has seen and been through
You know who the real bad guy is here? Kreese. End of story
i guarantee in S3 they're gonna go into his backstory in Vietnam or something
@@dylang1138 that would be awesome if they mention Krees and Silver sensei. To show why they're the way they are.
Montherdrawztutorial 678 Yeaaa I’m pumped for it
@@monthergamerz6786 Yeah, in January and I can't wait ✨
I'm sure you can make a tv remake show that he looks good at
The bad guy Is the person who hasn’t dropped a release date of season three
For real
Rip a copy
Jermaines Life copied r.i.p
Mr.savage gamer Pro tbh who did I copy 💀 the didn’t even know
@@Bigboyjerm69 you copied Kevin Le. His comment was 2 days before yours
Funny how Johnny forgot to remember that he himself handed Daniel that trophy and said "You're all right Larusso".
Yep writing ex machina does wonders. Just like how Daniel was truly bullied throughout the movies and Johnny was ordered to do so.
I feel like the memory of his sensei and would-be father figure destroying his own trophy and assaulting him ten minutes later would wipe out any of the good vibes from that evening.
Cobra kai kar8 group Johnny kreese was actually the real bully
They Also didn't even mention the dangerous scary delta strain bike attack
I made a TH-cam video on my channel called , cobra kai : Johnny was the real bully The Lost level but , unfortunately it was copyrighted material without permission Or something else like that though, I uploaded another similar clip.
I might do a part 2 As well
Neither one is the bad guy. Johnny followed his training and his instincts. Daniel was weaker but tried to stand up for himself. Kreese served in a bloody war were he learned if he didn't strike first and hart with no mercy you and your comrades were dead and he thought his students this. I don't believe Kreese is completely evil or bad but that he is traumatized by the war. That's maybe one reason why he hates Miyagi: Miyagi is a Asian and looks to him like the Vietnamese he fought. Also as a veteran of the 2 world War Miyagi earned the medal of honor and was honored as a war hero. Kreese fought in the Vietnam War were soldiers that came back didn't get the same recognition as world war 2 soldiers.
I think a good proverb is required here “Every person can turn into a soldier, not everyone can turn back.”
this
damn - that's deep.
Yes i agre, I see kreese as a victim......
That's an interesting perspective. It's what I love about this show, how so many viewpoints and reasons can be brought up by just one question
There is no black and white irl, only grey.
Both Johnny and Daniel made some wrong decisions, influenced by personal vendettas and childhood experiences.
I would say Johnny has grown far more than Daniel, and that's mostly due to the fact that Johnny is inherently good but his early role models weren't.
It's hard to change against your upbringing, and I think Johnny really had some tougher choices to make, and that helped him reach true redemption.
Team Johnny, unite!
I was following you up until your third sentence. I personally think the show is trying to show there is no "inherently good" but that anyone can become better than they are. The rest of it is spot on though.
Yeah, Hashbrown Team Johnny!!!!
I'd disagree that Daniel hasn't learned alot.
It's not that he hasn't, its just that he needs to learn a few more things for his life to be in balance again. Daniel had Mr.Miyagi until possibly Pat's real life death back in 06, so he's had alot of time to learn with him. Daniel is used to world he's in, Johnny's not, he's a man stuck in the 80's, and has so much more to learn because of his upbringing in life.
Johnny has more spiritual enlightenment without him knowing it, while Daniel is still in ilussion. Johnny dont care about ego, while Daniel is more of ego. I agree it has no black and white. Its grey and that is life.
I think it's like an inverse scale. Johnny in the movie was all ego and Danny was enlightenment. During their lives Johnny's ego was eroded due to his failings in life, while Danny's ego was inflated by his success, partially due to Miyagis teachings. By the time of Cobra Kai the opposite is taking place. Danny is so convinced by his ego that destroying cobra Kai is the right thing that he's actively working against Johnny's enlightenment and effort to make Cobra Kai better.
At least Johnny actually admitted to his mistakes even though Kreese is mostly to blame for misguiding him, Daniel is just a self righteous hypocrite
AGREE💯
Not really, Daniel has good grounds for hating Cobra Kai, he knows that Johnny is setting his students for Kreese to take over and that's EXACTLY what happened.
@@ArdoBlueMoon Johnny never put up any of his students to carrying out a rivalry (except maybe showing up Miyagi-Do at the festival but that was strictly business/professional). Kreese is the villain to both these guys (no such thing as bad student, only bad teacher), especially because Kreese put up Hawk to vandalizing Miyagi-Do and he also encouraged Tory to go all out against Sam whenever the 'opportunity' came.
@@zcm007attack Johnny was always willing to use the rhetoric that got him to the position he is in now.
@@ArdoBlueMoon Johnny did use the whole mentality of strike first, strike hard, no mercy. However, he was also distinctly teaching Miguel that there comes a time when 'no mercy' need not apply and is actually counterintuitive to the reason he began training him in the first place.
For someone who is stuck in the 80s, Johnny sure knows how to rock them Airpods
Fr he made them look good I see you homie 💯
And typing really fast on his phone.
The bad guy is Daniel’s Mother. She made him leave his friends back in New Jersey.
Lmao 😂
Hummused the bad guy was Daniel because he wanted to fight
I disagree. His mom was just trying to make a better life for them. She thought she was doing the right thing. Sure, she didn’t take his feelings into account, but it really wasn’t up to him. He was a kid. She was responsible for him, and did what she had to do.
The bad guy is Alli for being so beautiful. 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Yessss I was thinking the same things
They're both good guys. Johnny wants and has intentions to do good because his students are changing him and Daniel ONLY wants to do the right thing. Johnny had his past but people can change and that's what I feel like it's going on.
Daniel is what happens when a good man takes his dedication to the point of tyranny. "Cobra Kai is WRONG and I'm going to crush it."
Matthew Mevis I mean if you watched the first film imagine being in Daniel shoes, being the new kid and everyday ur scared to get jump by cobra Kai, and you gotta train to fight for the one day of the tournament to prove yourself and if you do bad you’re going to get jumped again
Agreed
@@ViaVirtus I mean he would probably be traumatized from his experiences with Cobra Kai, and it didn't help when that psychopath Hawk went crazy and fought dirty against Robby, just like what happened to Daniel. then miguel cheapshotted robby, like when johnny swept his leg. the only difference is kreese was telling his students to do that, but johnny didn't encourage his students, they just had that john kreese mindset.
It actually looks so weird that they are having a civilized conversation/debate
I've read that the actors are best friends.
thats how good their acting is.
I say neither is inherently “bad” in this series. They’re meant to not be black and white, but rather be gray in terms of morality. The only “bad” guy in this show is Kreese tbh
SPOILERS TO ANYONE WHO HASNT WATCHED SEASON 2
and tory, started the whole goddamn fight, ya know
Such an original opinion
I think the bad guy is Kreeses captain
I don't think Kreese is completely bad, he's just been through a lot of shit.
A Brief Summary of The Karate Kid and this Clip:
"Johnny's the bully."
"No, Daniel's the bully."
"And then there's this asshole..."
Where this is from?
@@itamar-kun6179 Um... me. I had no idea how I got that many likes. I believe "And then there's this asshole..." was taken from a tumblr post regarding books written about one's life story but don't quote me on that.
@@shanemerrigan1994 oh ok!
Everybody knows Samantha is the only villain this show has. Everybody else is a victim of her actions.
Oh snap!
Well, it was actually Moon who was driving the car. joking
@@uttamsharma6358 No, it was Yasmin
Yep
@@angiedelaney963 oh yeah it was Yasmine. Sorry.
Neither one is the bad guy now. But Johnny needs to stop trusting Kreese lol.
The bad guy is Kreese, he's even worse now than before.
He did and it cost him Cobra Kai.
@Bruh Man yeah Miguel in the hospital and his son being the one responsible for it. The guy is going to end up in the street drunk to the core.
Fr tho lol
And Daniel needs to stop blaming everything on cobra ...He really pissed me off at the end when he said "i won't let cobra kai get away with this" yet it was Robbie(His student) who hurt Miguel even after Miguel retreated and showed mercy .
I'm team Amanda because she is the only realistic person about this whole thing.
Edit: Thank you this is my most like comment!
fr, her and miguels mom
Why
Oh yeah just got it
I think Miguel’s mom is too careful with him, cause before Johnny, miguel was a wimp
@@laandjv8224 that’s true yeah
i prefer johnny since hes more entertaining and funny but i dont feel theres a bad guy. its mostly just built on a ton of miscommunications with all of the characters, thats one of the things that makes the series so interesting
Hawk: im on the spectrum
Johnny: Ok i dont know what that is but you need to get off it pronto 🤣
You’re a kid. You didn’t grew up with these characters
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@@GabrielSC174 How would you know that? Children can watch old movies and hold them in high regard without having been around when they were released.
J D it’s not the same. They won’t catch the nostalgia or the references . I preferred when Cobra Kai was on TH-cam Red. Less people less kids
Finally Netflix giving Cobra Kai the attention it deserves!!!
Has been since they bought it
They’ve only had the show for like a month. It was on TH-cam red before this
robbiesilverwolf no shit
Personally, I think that Johnny is going to become the main teacher of Miyagi-Do, and Daniel will be the owner/ head teacher. The only reason the cobra kai students didn't go off the deep end was because Johnny was still the head instructor, so he was able to kick Kreese out and teach the students the importance of mercy.
At the end of season 2, Johnny was forced out of cobra Kai (taking his morals with him), and Daniel's wife made him leave the dojo behind. I think that with Daniel still wanting to stop cobra Kai, and Johnny wanting to beat Kreese, the two will finally end up joining forces (the two always seem to get along when given the chance, but other stuff always gets in the way).
It’s Cobra Kai
That bitch Sam
Johny's karate style is way too different from Miyagi so it doesn't make sense that he takes over that school of teaching. Its actually the exact opposite in style. One is focused in a linear aggressive offensive style while the other is a circular calm defensive style.
@@titusalabat5173 I think the fact that his style is so different does make sense as to why he would teach there. In martial art schools, you want to have teachers with different fighting styles and specialties because it will lead to a more well rounded student. If you have two defensive based teachers, then the students will have a strong defense, but if you get one offensive and one defensive, then students will be more well rounded.
Martial arts has no correct way, and it is important to give students the tools to help find themselves and their specific fighting style for them. The show has shown that Johnny and Daniel can get along, so it makes sense the two can run a dojo together (the universe seems to always cause major problems that prevent them from becoming friends), and since Daniel is still the owner, he can always fire Johnny if he becomes too aggressive.
At the beginning of the show, I would agree with you. However, we are seeing Johnny start to become less aggressive (teaching them to show mercy, punishing them for stealing a medal of honor), so I wouldn't be surprised if he took over the school (especially since Daniel still wants to end Cobra Kai).
@@phabiorules But isn't the point of a martial arts schools, based on one style of teaching passed on from generation to generation? I think instead of taking over Miyagi Do they will end up combining their school of teaching to make a new one and a new school of martial arts is born. That is my guess.
I love how Daniel was smiling because he saw the good old days ;)
All I’m saying is the ending to season 2 wouldn’t happen if Daniel just left Johnny alone and do his own thing
I mean he did after a little while
This is true, but it ignores all of the grey areas where the conflict was bigger than just Johnny and Daniel. Sam was the root a LOT of the problems in the show, which ended up widening the rift between Johnny and Daniel.
@@thelowlybard Sam might have ignited many of the problems, but it was Kreese who put up his students to inappropriate retaliations.
If there isn't two sides of history the show is just about a sucefully karate dojo. Where is the fun?
Eh, not really. That ending mainly happened because Sam kissed Miguel at the party while her parents were having a nice, cordial time with Johnny and Carmen at the restaurant. Then proceeds to make things worse when Robby brings her to his house and all the shit breaks out the next day at school.
As a young girl, I guess I rooted for Daniel. But as an adult, I'm seeing a different side to Johnny and I'm now in his corner. I'm also on team Miguel.
For real? Daniel tried his best to be friends with him. I think I root for the beef to be over cuz both are trying to do good. Miguel is somehow better imho than Robbie. But both are good hearted kids. Aaaanyways just sharing my humble opinion. You have a good day!
the only Show in the world with NO hero or Villain, everyone is Grey here.
Do you english
@@user-om1wm8gr4d leave him alone
nice profile pic
Even Kreese
@@nippy7425 fax
The real bad guy is Kreese’s military captain, Turner
But then shouldn't we go back further to the guy that put Kreese's captain there? Kreese' captain's captain ?
All the way to the guy who started the war?
@@thanhdohuu9473 yes whoever was tuners captain who made him bad (or maybe he was just always bad in general) is the real bad guy
Sorry. No. Your crappy life and bad experiences give you an excuse to pass the torment on to others.
Kreese is basically a gang leader at this point, swearing vengeance on Daniel LaRusso because... why exactly? Because this kid, who was just a kid, won a county-level karate tournament?
@@thanhdohuu9473 the real bad guys are adam and eve?!?!
The school rumble was freakin epic, great way to end the season but was pretty sad for miguel, it put me to tears not gonna lie. During the fight, I thought oh crap, I wonder if someone’s gonna get seriously hurt.
The only thing I didn't like was how The Made Tory go way too far, she crossed the line way to much- even for her when she used her blades to cut Sam, that is the worst thing anyone has (intentionally) done the whole series including the movies.
lol it’s Sams fault 😂
Miguel is fine he's alive
@@xandan55 yeah but will he be able to fight again tho?, that’s what we want to know
@@sosa2137 pretty sure, in the trailer we see him trying to stand and walk, I think over time he'll heal and get up there again (with tv logic he'll heal in like a week)
if we gotta be honest Kreese is the real bad guy.
Secretly it's all Silver. His karate noises were all kinds of evil
Exactly!
Who's the real bad guy?
John Kreese.
Yep
Exactly what I was thinking!
Yes
Sam
She's responsible for a lot of shit
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Shame on movie "cuties" producted by netflix !!!!
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"Just because your right doesn't meant your opponent is wrong its all about perspective"
-some motivational quote on instagram
Johnny and Daniel would be friends if not for their damn kids
Exactly👏
I think Sam it's mostly guilty of what happened in season 1 and season 2.
She gave hope to Miguel and established the rivalry between him and Robby since the beginning, and instead of treating Miguel as her official boyfriend, she kept hiding him from her parents and treating him really bad when Miguel had defended her in front of all the bullies and stood with her when no one else stayed. Plus almost all misunderstandings between Johnny and Daniel were caused by her and how she manipulated Robby during season 1 and 2. Another thing to notice it's how hypocrite was Robby during all the show I mean, Johnny wasn't the best dad ever but he tried to change and get closer to his son(Robby's mother was a disaster and horrible in all senses, she didn't cared for him and just used him as a source of income provided by Johnny's hardwork)and even attempted to help him change so he wouldn't commit the same mistakes he did during his childhood and teenage time but Robby never listened and instead turned to his father's rival just to make him mad. Daniel Larusso was also poisoning the mind of Robby and Samantha during the whole season 1 making Johnny look like the bad guy and as a horrible human being while in reality Johnny defended Miguel from the bullies and even went as far as to help his students using himself as an example of what shouldn't be done. I just hope Samantha, Robby and Daniel receive some kind of punishment for everything they have done against Johnny and against Miguel, I mean Miguel already had a perfect life with Tory as his girlfriend which is never afraid to show him around and to teach him about life and Johnny as his father figure(It's states quite literally that he sees Johnny as a father due to all the teachings for selfdefense and life) before Samantha gets completely wasted and uses this as an excuse to kiss Miguel and confuse him causing the final issue between her and Tory.
Gonne Striker wow that was long
Imma ask you if I need an essay. Also Sam is a b*tch. She’s like felicity Smoak from arrow. She bitches about everything and is a liar.
Gonne Striker I’m just gonna assume we agree because I don’t want to read that
I think that Johnny was the bad guy back in the 80s but now he is trying to turn his life around and Danny won’t let him
@Stephano exactly
Cuase diane's is a idoit that why
i think in the 80's johnny didnt mind his own business
Johnny was not the bad guy, his retaliation was a bit too excessive yes but LaRusso sucker punched him on the beach and poured water on him in the washroom. If someone did this to you wouldn't you be pissed off?
@@Uchawibeatz didnt johnny literally push him on the ground and kick him in the stomach right before that.
Didn't Johnny kind of redeemed himself by the end of Karate Kid 1, when he handed the trophy and congratulated Daniel?
well yeah, but I mean wouldn't you be a little mad/annoyed at the fact you didn't win even though you showed sportsmanship?
Hard to believe either of these actors could fit this into their respective schedule 🤣🤣🤣
The real villain is Daniel's son. He's a real chore! LOL
OMG yes, he's the worst!
@@claudiaperea I really want him to meet Kreese LOL
The thing I love about Johnny in the present day is that he represents someone trying to transcend his upbringing. He never had a positive role model, grew up going from one abuser to the next. He fails Robbie because he recognizes how poorly equipped he is to parent, but he also recognizes running from his responsibility was also running from his chance at redemption. So here's this guy, emotionally and physically abused, with no positive influences in his life, who decides he's going to end the cycle and take care of these kids no one ever gave a chance.... In the words of Johnny Lawrence himself, that's badass.
Most hero's journey shows have a mentor. Johnny, what does he have? A deep desire to be better and a willingness to keep fighting until he does. He's taken the only worthwhile lesson Kreese ever taught him, and he's going to batter down that wall until either it falls or he does.
You know they both have their stories but I don’t think either of them are the bad guy, it’s Kreese. He made Johnny become the bully. And Daniel being the new kid was the one Johnny decided to Bully. I think they both have their ways and there both Good Hearted People
Daniel was the bad guy in cobra kai, they are no longer kids and Daniel is still being a douche
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And I’m pretty sure Johnny is still an asshole. You’d have to be a serious prick of a sensei to put kids in a cement mixer
Johnny didnt bully daniel cause he was new... Danny stuck his nose in johnnys life and thus he got his ass beat (and rightfully so) for it.
One Buffalo tru doe, but I still think. None of them are the bad guy
One Buffalo
That’s not what happened. Danny tried to calmly defuse the argument between Ali and Johnny. Then Johnny started getting physical instead of you, calming down.
These two are both good men, but they have different viewpoints on karate and life
It's like life, there's no good or bad guys just different sides of the story
Exactly
Munk So when he says 2 sides of a story I believe he essentially means morality. What one would seem to be morally acceptable another could see it to be morally unacceptable. Based on what Era we live in morality changes, for example before Law and government was established killing was morally acceptable while now it has completely changed. So in a way I guess Life is a combination of Stories. Each person has their own story and each story differs because no one shares the same point of view just different stories told in different ways of an event. Good and Bad essentially don’t exist, it all comes down to ‘Perception’ it largely effects everything. The way we talk, eat, dress and such. It’s all a matter of things we have perceived since birth. Perception surely can change and everyone has their own sense of Perception. No one person perceives things like everyone else does. For example how you perceived the initial comment in a different way I have. There is no right or wrong just different interpretations.
Munk also if you don’t mind, report these bots please
Sweet summer child, I used to be like you, but there are bad guys in real life, watch out for them.
@Munk That's called social construct and norms for human behavior.
Allie is the bad guy clearly she’s fickle. Daniel fights a whole tournament on the premise of a radio and she just ghost him.
Bro I’m where did She go
Imagine entering a tournament, and winning, and STILL getting dumped for a UCLA football player 🤣
She had to move to another state
If anyone likes to know alis trouble making dues
Feel free to check out the online article by Google searching
The karate kid's real villain - sons of zabka - ali
Daniel.
In the words of Harvey Dent, “You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
Well ill still be waiting for daniel to become the villain
@Akshath what?
@Akshath uh huh
“For Person with no forgiveness in heart, living even worse punishment than death.” -Mr Miyagi
I love the quote
1:59 I love Billy’s reaction to watching him kick the crap out of Daniel 😂
Daniel and his smile, never changes.
He´s so beautiful! And cute!!
Dude never ages lmfao. He was like 21 in the outsiders and looks 12
@@jonesiboybeastmode6857 that's what I think
Or his voice!
"It's okay to lose to opponent. It's never okay to lose to fear" Mr.Miyagi {R.I.P}.
Cue Sato's voice yelling, "MYAGIIIIIII!!! Fight me now you coward!!!!"
@@doggfather211 And Miyagi be like "No Sato you're my friend, I can't fight you" 😂😂
@@muathali4425 Then proceeds to chop log with bare hand to save him from storm.....😂😂😂
@@doggfather211 We pretty much narrated the ending 😂😂😂😂
Man, this hit me like a freight train right now. Thanks for sharing it
The real bad "girl" is SAM. She is the root of all conflicts.
she’s annoying asf
💯
@Mohammed Barento leave her alone
@Leila Moon and you're a mistake i wish you never existed
@@narushilazumaki5677 i- it’s just a show, chill. wtf
I think that a large point of the series is showing that often there is no "good" and no "bad" guy in real life. We are all shades of gray, and both Johnny and Daniel's motivations are very human and very understandable.
At the same time, I really like to see how much it seems that Zabka and Macchio enjoy doing this. They are actors, yes, but it really shows that they like bringing back and updating the old KK universe. A universe, that obviously had way more potential than "just" 80s action movies.
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I think Daniel isn’t a bad guy because he approached Johnny very nicely when he was in his dealership and even repaired his car for free. So Daniel didn’t have bad intentions. Johnny is definitely the good guy too. So Kresse is the bad guy!
It's two men both stuck living in the past but in different ways.
Macchio dont age
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Also the only guy who had the confusion of who the real bad guy is... Barney Stinson😂😂
wow, you're very popular with the bots
C that’s when you know you’ve hit gold when your popular with the bots
Barney is a pipe smoker.
Yooo... Ik where you're coming from
they're both bad in different moments. Daniel because his doesn't want Johnny to succeed and Johnny was a douche as a teenager. My favorite moments through the series so far was when they found common ground and were civil to one another. I hope they team up against Kreese in season 3
Lol u wher right
Daniel was asking for it at the Halloween dance Johnny just wanted to smoke a blunt and the dude pours water on him
👍
He then proceeds to cause a multi car collision as he runs away.
You wouldn't want revenge??
Months later? Daniel was being a nuisance. Johnny was dealing with Allie issues and Daniel was trying to show off. He even threw the initial punch. Their both annoying honestly. But Johnny’s redemption arc is so much better. Besides Danny weaponized his son. If you don’t have a child you can’t possibly realize how low that is.
@@sebastienc.2257 the initial punch? When? After johnny pushed him down in the sand? Or did you forget
The real bad guy is netflix for letting “cuties” get aired..
I mean it’s accurately portraying how girls get brainwashed into being hoes by WAP, Nikki Minaj, Asian doll, etc.
Agreed, instead of Season 3 of Cobra Kai
Can we stop with the cuties I want that erased from my life already
@@untitled8415 you are right but it still shouldn't be a movie. That should be a book or something
@@bruhman6264 like cancel culture reads anything besides their feeds and comments 🤣. It’s a grim reality but being a hoe is just part of female nature now
Neither. They're both just guys dealing with life.
They cant avoid each other because of their kids.
billythedog Daniel did make the landlord raise rent just because of kobra Kai
Finally someone that gets it.
@Stephano another person that understands.
People tend to forget that right all of the "bad" stuff Daniel did in the first movie was before he went through his arc about balance with Mister Miyagi.
I don't understand how in the og Karate Kid people think Johnny is the good guy
Daniel is the real bully and the evil sorcerer Miyagi (and it's obviously a joke)
evil sorcerer miyagi pulled out some thing that healed daniel in 2 seconds, btw i watched it today and mostly it was daniel who was taking advantage of johnny
@@emotionje4446 shutup! If I were to ask you to prove this you would give out the most invalid responses.
@@inclination6339 he said it was obviously a joke in parenthesis
Larusso sucks. Lawrence just wanted to start his own Dojo and was minding his own business, but then there comes Larusso and fd things up.
Danny became a douche-bag puke. And that stupid voice is too much.
And daniel just wanted some friends. And johnny bullied him... or was i not supposed to say that
@@joycongod4831 You mean back in highschool like 100 years ago and homeboy can't let it go, so now he becomes the bully for being rich and increasing the rent on all those hard working people? Or was I not supposed to say that.
@@reviewriot what i got from your comment was daniel is the worst. And thats it. You should probably put present daniel. Or past daniel so people can no what your talking about
JoyCon God Cobra Kai of course, my bad. Old Karate Kids are a different story.
People who watched this show before Netflix knows that sam is the villian.
Trip
@@Tvtmnts stfu you think you're right then prove it.
Everyone in the last 2 years has made videos that sam was the problem
With great arguments. But You just say that sam is nice because she is nice. Idiot
Ayush Bhadouria I don’t know because I wasn’t here when it was on TH-cam but from my perspective I think that sam isn’t the bad guy. She stood up for Miguel when Robby tripped him at the stairwell. She also got into a fight with Tory when she saw that they had kissed willingly. I don’t wanna start any BEEF with you but this is just my opinion. You can have your’s and I can have mine. Simple.
That one random girl i agree with you. I really dont understand why everyone sees her as the bad guy. People are responsible for there own actions
Very impressed with the show's ability to shift even the good guys to the bad and vice versa. Even Kreese, which season 2 have helped give context to his actions. A seriously interesting and somewhat successful in making the karate kid world interesting. Just sad that Mr Miyagi passed away in real life, his cameo would make quite an impact.
I love how their personalities or almost indistinguishable from their characters in the show here.
I don’t care who is the bad guy. I care about: does Miguel live? Does Stingray get the job? Does Jonny get a dojo? Does someone kick Creese’s ass? What chaos will Sam create? I WANT SEASON 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah Miguel lives and gets healed by Ali
Miguel comes out of a coma to find out he has been sleeping for 57 years becoming the new captain America
I somehow doubt Stingray gets the job after participating in a teen riot on school grounds.
Daniel just overreacts to everything,
Johnny was trying to be chill
Lol what a delusional comment
@@joycongod4831 Johnny told him to cool off before entering his house and Daniel kicked it open........
@@jasonlopez5913 yeah definitely. Cool off daniel its not like I have your daughter in here
@@joycongod4831 he breaks his door down then dissowns his student even though he did nothing wrong
@@james_eee nothing wrong?...bud he didn't CALL daniel. he didn't tell him " oh yeah by the way your daughter is at your rivals house just be chill daniel" If you wouldn't do that for your daughter your either not old enough or just suck as a parent
The more I think about it the more I realize that 'The Karate Kid' was one of the greatest movies of the 1980s.
Truuuuuuuue
@Eric Lewis hear hear.
@Eric Lewis yeah I don't get why people today like rap music and all that shit. I mean sure like 20% is good but the rest is just bad. 80's music imo is real music
@Eric Lewis
Most rap is pretty rubbish in my opinion, but the more lyrical raps are something you have to know in order to appreciate. Stuff like internal rhymes, wordplay, and rap can be poetry spoken over an instrumental. Imo every genre has its ups and downs. You need to learn about the music, the production, the skills, to distinguish the good from the bad.
Shout out to how you met your mother for bringing this argument up 😂, Barney Stinson is the man .
id say that kreese is the bad guy. He tried to bring back the 80's Cobra Kai
But is 80s cobra Kai bad his teachings while not honorable are realistic and he was proven to be right in the season 2 finale so I say kreese is not the bad guy
Tried? He succeeded. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
@@VillainBoss24 kreese is the only one that CAN'T be consideraded as the good guy
@@rickyplaysyt4322 I don’t think he’s a good guy I think like most characters in this show he is in a moral grey area
@@VillainBoss24 I got your point
This reminds me of the rivalry between Mr.Krabs and Plankton.
Omg🤣🤣
Tom and Jerry too
@@jmend_1 😂
Mario and Sonic still happens
Jow Frazier Muhammad Ali
Cobra Kai makes me like Johnny more than Daniel. Which is weird because in the movies I always wanted Daniel to win
Same 😂
That’s what I don’t like they are trying to make Daniel be the bad guy
It’s because Johnny is the main character now, and Daniel was the main character then. That’s what the difference is, who’s the protagonist
You can like both. No reason to "choose", since neither is a bad guy and both genuinely just love karate and want to do be good teachers to their students.
Exactly what I think
Daniel did the right thing at the start, he showed that he had the balls to try stoping a girl from being harassed. [NOT A VILLAIN]
Then he gets pushed down by that a-hole so technically Johnny starts the fight. Once again proved that Daniel was NOT A VILLAIN.
On the soccer field, that bully PURPOSELY tackles Daniel so ofc Daniel gets angry and punches him. This again shows Daniel AINT A VILLAIN.
Later, he gets pushed by a group of bullies while riding a bike which could have even killed him. Another thing suggesting Daniel was NEVER THE VILLAIN.
And yes he won the tournament fair & square which CONCLUDES that HE WAS THE HERO.
Who loves cobra Kai
Everybody
Anyone who isn't a big dumb dumb face lmao
@Josse 21 [f.u.с.к мe] ТАР 0N МY РROFILE get lost
ME!
Barney Stinson.