Hi everyone. I missed the link in the video originally but you can order the P1S here from Bambu. Just to confirm this is an affiliate link but again I will stress I would not recommend this printer or use their links if it was not as good as I said it is. I very carefully use links on my channel and the very fact I’m using them is a sign of trust I have for Bambu and their products. shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2377904&u=2831068&m=138211&urllink=&afftrack=
@MadRC can you tell me what Filament and file you used for that rose you made? I'm about to pull the trigger and buy a P1S and I know my daughter and wife would love the rose. It looks amazing!
Man... these printers are an absolute breath of fresh air. I have both an X1C and a P1S. Absolutely in love! I sold all of my prusa printers and completely went bambu labs.
@@MadRC We have an X1C for testing purposes at the moment and it really is great, but there is one big show stopper that keeps me from dropping all our Crealitys, Sovols, Prusas etc. - and that is the proprietary approach of Bambu Labs. 3D printing is *only* where it is today because it comes from the open source community and was not padlocked behind patents, undocumented tech, lawsuits, greed and big corp pressure. I've read the statements from Bambu in regards of open source and frankly, their stance on it is pretty upsetting, even if hidden behind well written nothingness. As it stands, getting those printers puts you in a perfect vendor-lock-in scenario, and with 30+ years of experience in the tech sector I dare say, that is something you really, really want to avoid. It's MacOS all over again: take something the community created, close it down, put some proprietary parts on it and thus defile the whole idea it was based on.
So this printer, hardened steel nozzle and gears and it's basically ready for everything I print. Thanks for the brutal honesty Ian! Gonna contemplate some more about buying, and probably use the affiliate link anyway, as it's well deserved!
bambu p1s is my first 3d printer and I love it. I literally have absolutely no experience with 3d printers. Two weeks ago I didn't know what slicing was. that's how new I am to 3d printer and its exactly what you explained. i love my bambu lad p1s.
As a noobie, I'd watched many dozens of 3d printer reviews, setup tutorials, Mfg problems, trouble shooting and studied up on the different filament types before contemplating a purchase. I decided on the X1-C w/AMS and after several weeks of use, i bought another with 2 additional AMS units! It's an absolute joy to use, especially for a noobie not wanting to fiddle with settings and such, my time is valuable to me and having a print and forget (for the most part) is great!
@@ZFGFZDGDFG time is money, lol. But I'm of a similar mindset to OP. I really want to make some of my own stuff, but I don't want to have to spend all my time tweaking and adjusting to get it right. I want a machine that just works. And if a few hundred extra dollars is the price of that peace of mind, I'll pay it happily.
@@tyrannicpuppy To add to that, if tweaking and tuning your printer is a chore for you and not a fun part of a hobby, you could actually really easily get those couple hundred dollars out of a more expensive printer in time saved by not having to tweak and tune it. That tuning time can really rack up dozens of hours very easily
@@ZFGFZDGDFG I mean, depending on how old you are and in what stage of life you are, with a proper job you should be able to afford something like this. And in the long run it could even make sense to spend some extra money.
@@thatCbean I'm probably grabbing the X1C next month, coming from an Ender 3 which I've had since december 2018. I feel like it's only a logical choice because by now I've had my fair share of experience with tweaking, tuning, debugging and upgrading my 3D printer. Now I just want something that just works perfectly out of the box, can print better materials, can print faster, can print multiple colors or materials, and with a bigger build volume so that I can iterate faster on parts for my hobbies and functional use. I enjoy fiddling around with this tech, but when I just want to print something without having to wait around the printer for 10 minutes to make sure the first layer sticks properly etc., it can be quite demovitating and I think it's the reason I haven't used the printer that much and haven't printed many big parts because of common failures.
Got a PS1 three months ago and have been blown away ever since. It is truly amazing. I print 6 days out of seven and have yet to have a print fail. I have Creality and a Snapmaker which do not even come close to this machine. It is fantastic!!!
Hi ! Thank you for this video! I've been watching this P1S for a few days now and just discovered your channel. I love the fact that you're transparent about affiliate links and the fact that Bambu sent you this printer! The LAN only mode having one lose functionalities that should not (in my opinion) require the use of a cloud is a real shame. I don't want any form of cloud, and I don't want to then pay for a camera that I wouldn't be able to use. Not sure yet if it's a dealbreaker for me, but that's certainly a blow.
I am an engineer (retired). If I am making vehicle parts or robot parts or other machines, then the carbon filaments are important for strength. I will look into how much it would cost to add the components to do these materials. This was a great video. For my situation, it would have been good to hear more about the filaments this P1s does not handle.
I just started my 3D printing journey a few months ago. Like many, I started with an Ender 3. I've done a handful of mods to improve it, but I am planning on moving onto the Bambu P1S next.
I wanted a printer with enclosure for printing other filament than PLA and PETG so I sold my A1 and bought the P1S. The P1S got a lot off warping with PLA especially on the left side. For every day printing cleaned my plate with hot water and soap. So I was disappointed and want the A1 back. Looked at internet and there was a lot of the same problem. What I thought could be the problem was the Aux Fan and that seems the solution they mentioned. Tried it on 10% and 0% and It worked for me. No warping with PLA. Hope it will continue so. For the rest I am happy with the P1S. Liked your channel.
@MadRC , I am bummed that I got mine before you posted this video, or I would have indeed used your affilliate link to support your amazing work. I just wanted to say that I too have the P1S and it just worked brilliantly right out of the box. I have printed literally dozens of things up to this point and have never had a single issue or print failure. I did not get the version with the AMS because I just don't need it for the kind of printing I regularly do, but I DO use it to make multi-color TPU prints and the ease with which you can change filaments at specific layers is absolutely amazing. You simply right click on the layer in Bambu studio where you want to change the color, and insert a "pause" and then either use Studio or the touch pad to unload and then reload the new filament and hit "done", then press the "play" or continue button and the P1S picks up right where you left off and creates PERFECT multi layered color prints. It is absolutely mind blowing how easy and how good it is. Great video, great review and my experiences 100% mirror yours sir.
Great video! Just wanted to mention that polymers means plastic, which all filaments are. I think you were referring to composites/abrasive materials. :)
@@twsbibanghorn7343 No filament but it does come with a few extra cutting blades and some small maintenance items extra. No "anti-vibration" feet that I know of. I might look into that more though. It's been rock solid since I got it. Still printing flawlessly. The only issues I have had are with bad filament and with poor .stl files. The printer works perfectly though!
My printer is going to come next week. Im brand new to the 3D printing world but I am a 3D artist for more than 6 years. Time to make my art come to real life!
You are absolutely on the money concerning P1S vs X1C. After the simple upgrade on P1S, of changing the hot end and extruder, gear you have what X1C can do. As for the display panels, I can't justify $500 for the difference. In fact what I can justify is the fact I already have 2 and am shooting for another 2. Four of P1S at $950 ea is $3.8g. Four of X1C is $6g. That's a lot of cash difference which can now go to alot of Ale, with a zero compromise in output quality.
I've been FTP to my P1S to get timelaps and such off it. It saves me having to take the SD card in and out. Only issue is its slow. 250kbs max. and if the printer is doing anything then its half of that if your lucky. Only other kinda issues ive had have been the camera. It just pauses and does not update after 10-20 mins. The handy app is the same. The older versions of studio would then freeze and crash. New one freezes but you can switch off the video and then back on and it works again. The Cloud printing is useful but i would prefer to use Lan mode and have camera and also it been nice to have print history and stats thats not just in the handy app. I have had times where its been super slow to upload and or download from the cloud. Hopefully they will update this in the future. Hardened gears and hotend upgrade only cost me 50 quid more. Only other thing id say is i dont think you mentioned the print bed surface. The P1S comes with a very nice double sided PEI textured steel sheet which is different to both the other printers in the line up. Cheers.
So a week and a half ago I upgraded from an old Ender 3 V2 by by buying two Ender 3 KE's. I had long ago put away my original Ender because it required too much Faffing around. The KE's were definitely an upgrade and printed nicely when they worked. One printed flawlessly. The other was wrought with issues .. all resolved with work ... then it suffered a catastrophic failure on the hot end. I took them both back and bit the bullet buying a P1S and an AMS. It prints like a dream with no print cleanup necessary when designed and oriented correctly. But either one and you will be happy!
Possibly one of the most complete, fair/unbiased, and concise reviews of any product that I've ever seen. That being said, I still can't decide! LOL I've been working with an Ender 3 V2 Neo for about the past year, and I have really got myself dialed in with both the printing as well as my CAD skills and I think it's time to upgrade. Knowing myself the way I do, I will probably fork over the extra money for the X1 so that I don't have any regrets that I "cheaped out". Thanks again for your review/opinion.
Awesome review which I totally share, I'm really in love with my P1S which I have now for a couple of months. It really is the best printer I have ever owned and used. When I bought it I was in doubt to get the X1 or the P1S but I have had no regrets what so ever, I upgraded the hotted to a hardened nozzle and the extruder to hardened gear and that is really all you need to print even the most exotic filaments. Also the prices of the replacement stuff are really reasonable. Overall a very good experience with the printer and AMS.
Thank you for this, this is the best review/comparison I've found so far as you touched on everything I wanted to know and simply so. Definitely going with the P1S, that camera is a bummer, though.
Buying a P1S myself. This will be my second 3D printer. My current printer is an inexpensive ANET ET4 and although it can print well at slow speeds. It's biggest drawback in the capacitive sensor used to sense bed leveling. It will often drift depending on temperature and becomes a pain having to re-adjust the sensor with a small screwdriver before every print cycle which can take 30 minutes or more. I'm hoping this printer will allow me enjoy more print time and less screwing around time. I'm going to try bed leveling the ET4 printer by adding a single optical sensor on the Z axis to detect the bed level without a sensor on the print head. If the bed is level, then one point alone should dictate the level. Wish me luck.
Absolutely perfect review! You addressed every question I had and explained it. And I love that you touched on having the options vs not having.... a very true and honest review and helped more than you know! THANK YOU!
In my experience in purchasing any technology is the day after I purchase the item a new improved model comes out. Any thoughts about the P1S coming out with a color touchscreen control device soon?
Great Video. 👍👍100% Agree with your evaluation. Just bought a P1S a week ago, it's my very first 3D Printer, and as you stated, it's incredible. I think its had a couple of hours turned off since I bought it. Very good beginner printer, and experts that just want to sit back and let the printer do its stuff. I'm amazed at the software and apps that come with it, just out shopping and checked out the current print on my phone, live feed, very handy indeed.
In truth, I've owned five previous 3D printers and the P1S is head and shoulders above the others. It just works. And that's the highest compliment I can give it.
I love mine. I was literally about to buy a P1P until I saw an announcement/video on P1S. I've had a number of Ender printers and this was by far the best I've had so far.
I'm getting this. Convinced. What a good video as well! So detailed. I was on the fence. This looks beautiful. Coming from years of enders and cr10s lolol I'm ready.
Great review! Although I would recommend getting the X1C, that Lidar feature is getting a lot of tweaking by Bambu recently which results in much better print quality. Eventually it will be a must have for perfect prints, just having everything automatic, I love it.
@@Pineappletomato Yes it is, I always turn it on before any print even if it has the correct values. It just ensures me it will always print in the highest quality. Besides the manual setup (which I've also done to test if it comes close to auto) takes quite some time. And I switch filaments a lot.
Great printer. I‘m thinking about switching to Bambu Lab. Great print quality out of the box and you get what you were promised. Yeah, its more expensive, but you can spend more time on creating parts and printing instead of tinkering around.
I'm guessing there must have been a software update since you made this video but I just bought a p1s and I can download my time lapses from the bamboo Studio on my computer no need to take out the SD card
I just got a P1S after owning an ender 3 pro for about 3 years. Why didnt i save myself this headache months ago. The p1s has been printing nonstop with no tinkering since ive opened it. Best decision ive made.
Great write up and I agree with what you say in regards to the p1s, my only very slight niggle with the p1s is that some times the first layer can play up, but as you mention in the video keep an eye on the first layer then you can walk away from the print. Just to add I have only had minor issues with the first layer due to using the cool plate option 35deg c. Little bit of glue on the pei sheet and it's golden. Also I think if they adjusted the print head g code to wait until the nozzle to hit tepreture instead of starting the print run when the head is a couple of degrees lower this will help as well.
Thanks for such a comprehensive overview of the differences between these printers. It's helped me immensely in my decision. I have decided to go with the P1S. I am most interested in print quality so this is really the best choice for me. Thank you so very much.
I bought the A1 because I seen all the reviews. I got it on sell for $339, I figured let me give it a shot , if it sucks I will return it. I WAS BLOWN AWAY THATS I ALL HAVE TO SAY. Coming from 3 different Creality printers. This is a steal for $339. I am so impressed that I am going to purchase the P1S for me and recommend the X1C for work!! Do not hesitate to get a Bambu!
Is that still the case? That makes me lean towards not getting it then. Cf needs to stay enclosed more than most other filaments. Rather just get a nice drier box , manual changing filaments doesn’t seem hard to do
Have been diving into Bambu for my next printer (have a MK3S+ now) and found this the best and most useful video. I love that you focus on real usage situations and not just drilling all the same things all the others do. One extra thing I prefer the P1S for (vs the X1C) is that It's (apparently) slightly less noisy. Although It's probably such a minor difference they'll both sound noisy. Did you experience any differences on sound levels? The noise is the biggest reason the MK4 is still in the mix.
Only issues I've had with my p1s is warping when printing with ABS prints and some with ASA. Not sure if the x1c handles those filaments better? That and carbon may be my excuse to get a x1c as well.
Best explanation video of differences between P1S and X1C that I have seen! I'm going for the Bambu Labs P1S. Given your explanation, I can live with a lower quality camera (I've never had one before, so this is already a step forward). I can live with having to use the SD card every now and then for the timelapses. And for the price difference, I would rather upgrade the P1S with, among other things, different nozzles and buy a Bambu Labs A1 Mini that I then use for small and 0.2 prints, for example. Or a resin printer instead of the A1 Mini. I can live with the difference in screen. And a side that has not yet been treated. If the screen ever breaks, the P1S replacement screen is significantly cheaper (almost 5x) than an X1C replacement screen. Thank you for the very clear explanation.
Great review. The only thing missing is your opinion on the noise. Now that I know that LAN mode would work fine for my needs, that's my only remaining concern.
It’s loud but it’s not K1 loud. It’s definitely louder than a Prusa but the Creality K1 is louder. The thing with the fast printers is the fans are all jacked up. I did miss this aspect in this review but I will be covering it later in a comparison.
There’s an issue with LAN Only mode. If you have your printer on a vLAN different than your computer it will be a struggle getting connected. The P1S advertises itself to Bambu Studio, and that doesn’t natively go across vLANs. There are work arounds, some routers can forward the broadcast, others don’t, so you may need to spoof the UDP broadcast packet so Bambu Studio knows where the printer is.
I am thinking of replacing my Flashforge Adventurer 3 and getting a P1S. All the Adventurer 3 gives me is loading trouble every time I use it. Most prints fail as well.
I'm planning on getting it(P1s+ams) sometime next year, after upgrading some old 3d printers and buying a Neptune 3 or 4 Max. Also, love the enclosure, unlike the P1P.
24:05 - THERE IS NO LINK TO BAMBU AT ALL just to let you know cause I had to search for the printer and website to check the specs. So might be worth to add that link soon.
Hey i have a X1 and its just amazing for the CF materials. Given we can replace the gears and hotend for the hardened steel versions, im assuming that the P1S can use all CF reinforced materials that bambu offer but i have seen peopel doubting this without giving good reasons. Have you tried this upgrade and printed with PLA-CF/PEG-CF/Nylon-CF etc.?
6 months and a few firmware updates later, how much of a difference do you think the lidar makes now? If the P1 had a better camera and and screen, I wouldn't even think about which one to get, but, that's where I am. I plan to print most all materials (Nylon, ASA, etc etc) and I wonder how much time/filament the lidar saves in calibrating.
Is it possible to upscale, in other words, if one buys a certain file for printing a flower, can they make some adjustments on the printer to "scale up" the model, would this affect the quality or the strength? I will be using it for RC airplanes where keeping the exact scale and strength are important. Thanks
You think this would be ok to use in front of a window? I only have space left atop my dresser which is in front of a window with an air conditioner in it. My old printer had issues but it wasn’t enclosed like this.
Watch a few of you video now an very informative, so thanks for sharing. I have a question, I'm fresh to 3D printers and set on the Bambu range. Should I choose the new A1 with AMS lite over the P1S?. The X1C is out of my price range. I'm thinking of future proofing. The A1/AMS seems to be the best value (And provides color options) but cannot print ABS, ASA etc. For the P1S I know I can purchase the AMS later if I need multiple color, and its provides the enclosure for ABS, ASA etc later if I decide the graduate to those filaments. Right now I'm torn on which to choose. Bed slinger or XY. The price of the P1S is like $150 dearer than the A1/AMS. Can you help guide me on best option here between the 1. I have excluded the P1P
Just bought the P1S. Can you elaborate more on the nozzle types as I would like to print ABS. On their site, it says that the .2mm and .4 (comes with the printer) are compatible with ABS.
Thank you for the advice Ian, I’m looking to update from my Ender 3 and this one is really interesting. Sorry, beginner question: is it possible to print without using the AMS? I have my own filament dryer, can you feed the machine from there too?
I've just used your link to purchase an X1-C. Not sure if you still get a payment as I'm UK.. Took all your review on board and you are probably right, X1 may not be worth the extra but I didn't want to regret not going for the X1.. I have an original Ender 3 which I have been using for 4 years, an Ender 5 and CR-10.. Looking forward to a trouble free multi colour printer..
Great video. I am in a toss up between these two or the K1 Max at the moment. This has helped give a little more information to that decision. The 'it just works' factor is such a nice thing for someone like me that wants to get into making my own stuff, but doesn't want to have to continually micro manage or tweak the printer to get good results.
@@williamphillips777 In the end I went with the X1C. Currently about 700 hours of printing down since I got it in October. And I love it. It really does just work almost every single time. Have had a few teething problems that were mostly my fault. Or resulted in trying to multimaterial print PLA and PETG (I just haven't been able to get PETG to work as yet, it sticks to the nozzle once it gets so high and that can pull it off the plate, but PLA is pretty much plug and play). Not sure if I just have a dud roll of PETG. Going to try some ABS/ASA and a new roll of PETG shortly to test my metle on other types of plastic now I've got the big thing I wanted to make done. In the end, decided I don't presently need the bigger plate size. Printed a few things that took up the whole plate and they come out great. Currently on the last on a 25 plate print for a BC-304 from Stargate and it's come out a treat. Precision on parts if pretty much spot on right off the plate. I've only had to file or sand a couple of bits to get them to fit. Some things mesh so tightly I actually had to buy a mallet to help gently get them fully seated. The app is head and shoulders above the Creality option too. If all you want is printer info, it opens on the screen for me and gives me details without ads. Live view is awesome, but does chew up your phones data if you're not on wifi. My only issues so far is occasionally the poop will somehow flick out into the machine instead of down the chute. Only happened three times over those seven hundred hours. And usually only happens if a part fails and I've had to cancel it off the plate and continue the rest (an awesome feature in and of itself that has saved a lot of filament waste if I didn't give a tall piece enough support). The head movement is quite violent, so if you have other loose items on the surface you plan to use it on, it will rattle them about. And this can be enough to knock thin parts or tiny tree supports loose during a print. Can be controlled by lowering speeds in the slicer, but it has caused restarts or alterations on a couple of prints to date. I did not have any failure to pullback errors until I added a second AMS and the Hub. Though a few easily printable bits and some disassembly of the AMSs fixed that quick smart. A couple of times it will have a tiny fleck of hardened plastic that seeped out of the nozzle in the way when levelling, which can result in it being too high when putting down the first layer. I've had to stop those and restart (on the built in screen) and the second time just works now that it's cleared that tiny bit. And when ironing parts, I get s thin film of melted plastic around the nozzle I clear off with some tweezers before starting another job. I clogged the nozzle switching from PETG to PLA (as the PETG support). Managed to get the PETG in the section between the extruder and the nozzle to bow outwards just a tiny bit that meant it was wider than the opening at the top and bottom. So it wouldn't just pull free. Had to disassemble the entire head to get at the stuck piece. However, this was super easy. A few screws and a couple of leads you need to disconnect. Their documentation is excellent and there are many videos showing step by step how to make such maintenance. Had a brittle piece of filament break off inside the AMS between the first and second stage that I had to pull the AMS apart to remove. Again, quick and easy to do. Hardest part is reattaching the two internal cables as they're just long enough to reach but only when the upper segment is pretty close. So can be a touch fiddly to connect. And that's it. In the three months I've had it, that's everything that has gone wrong. Almost all one offs that were quick and easy to clear or fix and get back to printing. And most of those pop an error on screen with a QR code you can scan for more detail on what's up and how to fix it. As for the X1C vs the P1S, I decided to go all in. I think the X1C screen is far superior to the P1S interface and just this last week a group have released an open source firmware alternative (X1+) for the X1C that cannot be used on the P series. So if you're interested in fiddling, that's a plus over the P series now as well, but will void the warranty if that's important to you. I'm personally steering clear, but am excited to see those community advancements filter into the official firmware too. The camera quality is great on my PC attached to a 4K tv and my phone screen. Not sure if the LIDAR has been doing anything as most every print has just worked with the exceptions of the couple I saw it going funny and stopped before it even did the first layer checks. And I have had one spaghetti alert (which I think is an AI exclusive feature to the X series) where a few tall bits lacking support fell over once they got too tall. Flag them to stop, pulled them and the spaghetti off the plate and allowed to continue the rest of the already 2/3 done print. Then whacked the bits that failed on a new plate with some support and they came out perfect just last night. My printing room is right next to the kitchen, so every few prints I pull the plate off (almost exclusively used the Cool Plate so far) and give it a clean with dish sopa, hot water and a standard kitchen sponge/scrubber I've put aside for printer use only. Comes completely clean every time, dry both sides with microfibre cloths and reglue it and it's back on the machine within 15 minutes. Have only cleaned the rods once so far. And I've printed a bunch of accessories and containers on the machine which have tidied the area and keep everything right there at arms reach too. Best thing about a 3D printer imo is that if you need a new holder or something, the tool is right there in front of you. The AMS stacker has been my favourite so far. And there are so many ready to print drawer and container options on both Printables and MakerWorld. Sure, they are pricey to buy outright, but in my experience so far, they do exactly what they're meant to do extremely reliably. I have not had to nurse it like my old Ender 3 Max. No tweaking the Z offset before every single print and spending 20 mins levelling the bed. The Bambu Studio software is clean concise and easily usable, though the units will work with other programs too. I have not bothered with SD transfer, sending all jobs so far direct from the slicer via wifi. And the mobile app is just as easy to use if you do want to print direct from it. Done a few jobs while sitting at work and knowing the printer was sitting idle at home with a clean bed. It is a closed ecosystem, but everything in it works extremely well, and does allow for certain 3rd party options for things. Which only looks to grow over the coming months (a company just released an official 3rd party hi-flow nozzle). So that could be a plus or minus for you based on your own personal preferences on that topic. Definitely not a purchase I have regretted at all to date. Can highly recommend the BL gear. From what I have seen, if you need just basic PLA and nothing else, the A1 is the way to go. If you want to do tougher filaments, the enclosure definitely helps (though only the X1E has a heater inside, but mine regularly sits about about 30C inside). And if you want the peace of mind of the few extras bells and whistles the X1C has been great for me.
@@tyrannicpuppy wow thank you so much for the extensive reply and all the great information! Me and my friend have been debating this as we are both in the market and looking to get one of the 3. You have confirmed some of the thoughts we were having as well and I'm leaning x1 even more so now. Again thank you!
@@williamphillips777 no problem. I did plenty of looking around and was torn between the options for ages. So happy to pay it forward to others. These vids definitely helped me make my decision.
Just a remark: all the materials of the filaments you normally print on these machines ARE POLYMERS, harder nozzles allow you to print REINFORCED POLYMERS such as glass fiber reinforced polymers or carbon reinforced polymers, where the fibers (or other kind of particles, they might be even ceramic or metal micro- or nano-spheres) are embedded in the polymeric matrix. The hardness of these reinforcing particles might quickly wear out standard nozzles made of brass or not-hardened steel, while nozzles made of harder (or hardened) materials might withstand this abrasion better and for longer, making them more suitable for such reinforced polymer filaments.
I want to get a P1S and buy hardened steel nozzle hot end and hardened steel extruder gears with it, if I did that could I print abrasive filaments like the X1C?
Well here we go.. I have owned the X1C for a few months and just pulled the trigger on the P1S because of this review 😅 I hope it really is close to print and leave as my carbon
@@hillnothey both print the same, I actually use my P1S more since I have PLA loaded into it and have ABS in my X1C. But I have used ABS on the P1S and it had identical print quality. With all the upgrades Bambu had done to the P1S the list of items exclusive to the X1C is very minimal and I’m sure over time will be non existent (from a software side). The X1C has a faster processor for things other than printing, when it comes to printing they are both press start and print. I have had 3 failures on the P1S out of like 100, and that was due to me not wiping off the build plate every so often. Save the cash and buy the P1S!
My p1s with ams comes soon. Im tired of wasting my design time fixing my ender 5 print issues. Cant waste my time fixing prints all day. I love my ender 5 plus because the build size but its annoying to tweak all the time. Especially when it messes up at the end of a 25 hour print
I got a P1S Combo, extra AMS, hardened gears, 3 hotends and a dozen rolls of filament for the price of just a X1C Combo and itll print just as well. Kind of a no brainer unless you have money to burn that could get you an entire A1 Combo or two A1 minis.
Looking at the p1s with ams. I had an elegoo Neptune 4 before but wanted to do multicolor prints. Would it be better to wait for a sale or should I buy now? Could there be a black Friday or Christmas sale?
I have the P1P, and I got work to purchase a X1 Carbon. Wish I knew how to disable the Lidar & calibration print, Printing from sd card as it's not allowed on the network
I have the X1 and was contemplating getting the P1S to use my .2 nozzle as I am constantly swapping them (even though it is a 3 minute job). As for the LiDAR, I HAVE noticed a difference. I typically do not run the filament calibration every print but I have noticed after several dozen hours of different prints the print quality 'degrades' enough to be noticeable. Running the filament calibration returns it to the quality I have come to expect. So if you run it for EVERY print or even every other print, you will not notice. However, dozens of prints with out calibrating it will show some degradation.
I wonder, would it be possible to upgrade the cam in P1S, to 1080p? I don't know if anyone have doing that? Oh ... is RFID and NFC the same thing? Since the Bambu is using RFID :)
19:53 It's four months since this video was recorded, can anybody confirm if the mobile app can now work with the P1S in LAN mode? I'm considering getting one but this would be a deal breaker for me if it's still not working. Thanks
I don't know what he means by his usage of the word "polymers", but in general the hardened parts let you print materials with abrasives mixed in. Things like chopped carbon fiber, glow in the dark additives, etc.
All sounds good but, pun intended, how loud are they? How many dB standing next to the printer for a P1P, P1S, and X1C when printing slow, fast and ludicrous?
Hello, great and so detailed video. Thank you. Can you please confirm that the speed of this printer is really 500 mm/s? Does this mean that, for example, it will print lithophane 10*10 cm within two hours? Do you have experience with printing the lithophanes and what are your impressions regarding the precision and details of the printing? Does this printer have the ability to work only with FDM material or? Does the software come with it or not? Sorry for the many questions, but simply no matter who I ask, no one can give me an answer, not even the distributors for 3d printers - not even in general about the printing speed. Once again, thank you very much.
I just got the printer. The first results seem to be great, but getting the thing connected to the cloud or the local lan is a serious pain in the ass. You'd think they made it as easy as entering the wifi code, but instead the machine asks to scan an QR code in their app (which asks a lot of printing unrelated info) and still requires bluetooth (which might not work).
I should have watched this video before buying my printer. But, I got the P1S anyways, so I'm happy with both these results, and my choice. I can make my own Touch Screen for it. Hoorah! For the Xtouch dev!
It would be interesting to see them compared for higher temperature filaments like nylon and polycarbonate, they seem to be where the x1c is better due to the higher bed temperature and probably better enclosure. It would also be interesting to see how useful the lidar is for more exotic filaments like varioshore and lightweight PLA where the line width does change and without the lidar would require manual calibration. Most normal filaments will behave much the same so that reduces the usefulness of the lidar and calibrating extrusion for different types of PLA or ABS isn’t something you have to do even on a basic ender 3.
Does anyone know WHY the X1 has a higher bed temperature? Is there an actual reason or is it artificial? I hear different things like the heater element is smaller on the P1 and the material of the bed but in my experience using other printers I can get 110C+ even on old wimpy little 12V printers with terrible beds and heaters, it's just a lot slower.
the website doesn't mention that the hotend is upgradeable if a person buys the p1s, can you verify that it is doable? If I buy the p1s and upgrade hotends, can i then run polycarbonate and nylon? Or do i need the temp adjustments of the x1c still?
I got into 3D printing a few years back with a AnyCubic Vyper. It was a pretty good printer and my only real issue had to do with storing stringiness, but was resolved when I dehumidified my reels. I looked for a step up and decided on the P1S with AMS as I was looking at multi-color printing. As former electro-mechanical tech, this machine is well built and impressive; is it well very well built. Also, this machine is speedy, produces great quality prints, and I am definately a fan. I purchased the PS1 as the X1 was a bit out of my price range, and am not sorry about my purchase. I had a party and gave away 3D prints as prizes, and every who asked about 3D printing got my unsolicited Bambu labs recommendation. If someone is looking for their next 3D printer, I have to say, the Bambu printers are in a league of their own and recommend them wholeheartedly.
Hey, I also went from an Anicubic Viper to the P1S with AMS. My viper had a little incident where the print head partialy melted. And the P1S ist orders of magnitude better and easyer to use.
I think the P1S is a good upgrade from P1P. I weighed the two for my first 3D printer and chose the P1S with AMS. I don't think the X1 is worth the $500 increase.
I finally got my P1S printer and I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. Not with the printer. I'm disappointed I didn't get something like this in the first place. When I did a test print for the bed scraper that comes on the SD card I was blown away. My first thought was, "this printer is insane!"😧. I've never seen a printer print that fast! And the quality of the prints are second to none. My only advice if you get one is to clean the PEI sheet with dish soap and warm water before printing to assure correct adhesion to the bed on the first layer. Just to add, I changed my P1S to LAN mode and although I could not use the app to view the camera, I could still view it in Bambu Studio.
What specific upgrade for the print head is needed to make it like the X1? Can this be bought on the Bambu website and is it an easy install? Thanks for the video!
Hi everyone. I missed the link in the video originally but you can order the P1S here from Bambu. Just to confirm this is an affiliate link but again I will stress I would not recommend this printer or use their links if it was not as good as I said it is. I very carefully use links on my channel and the very fact I’m using them is a sign of trust I have for Bambu and their products.
shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2377904&u=2831068&m=138211&urllink=&afftrack=
Haha I read this as “I will stress I would not recommend this printer” the first time
For some reason it only shows that they deliver to China when I go to their website.
@@TheFeenux06I get the same issue, only several countries it'll ship to when using that link
@MadRC can you tell me what Filament and file you used for that rose you made? I'm about to pull the trigger and buy a P1S and I know my daughter and wife would love the rose. It looks amazing!
Hey, heads up that this link is no longer working
Man... these printers are an absolute breath of fresh air. I have both an X1C and a P1S. Absolutely in love! I sold all of my prusa printers and completely went bambu labs.
Yea they are fantastic. My worry is always trying to not sound like a I’m shilling it but they are that good.
@@MadRC I say give credit where credit is due. I've been printing for 15 years. I can testify. They ARE that good!
@@MadRC We have an X1C for testing purposes at the moment and it really is great, but there is one big show stopper that keeps me from dropping all our Crealitys, Sovols, Prusas etc. - and that is the proprietary approach of Bambu Labs. 3D printing is *only* where it is today because it comes from the open source community and was not padlocked behind patents, undocumented tech, lawsuits, greed and big corp pressure. I've read the statements from Bambu in regards of open source and frankly, their stance on it is pretty upsetting, even if hidden behind well written nothingness. As it stands, getting those printers puts you in a perfect vendor-lock-in scenario, and with 30+ years of experience in the tech sector I dare say, that is something you really, really want to avoid. It's MacOS all over again: take something the community created, close it down, put some proprietary parts on it and thus defile the whole idea it was based on.
@MadRC the fact we knew you'd worry about that before you said it means we trust you never would
As someone with both, how much better would you say the X1C is?
What is your recommendation for someone's only printer?
Thanks!
So this printer, hardened steel nozzle and gears and it's basically ready for everything I print.
Thanks for the brutal honesty Ian!
Gonna contemplate some more about buying, and probably use the affiliate link anyway, as it's well deserved!
bambu p1s is my first 3d printer and I love it. I literally have absolutely no experience with 3d printers. Two weeks ago I didn't know what slicing was. that's how new I am to 3d printer and its exactly what you explained. i love my bambu lad p1s.
As a noobie, I'd watched many dozens of 3d printer reviews, setup tutorials, Mfg problems, trouble shooting and studied up on the different filament types before contemplating a purchase. I decided on the X1-C w/AMS and after several weeks of use, i bought another with 2 additional AMS units! It's an absolute joy to use, especially for a noobie not wanting to fiddle with settings and such, my time is valuable to me and having a print and forget (for the most part) is great!
a very rich noobie
@@ZFGFZDGDFG time is money, lol. But I'm of a similar mindset to OP. I really want to make some of my own stuff, but I don't want to have to spend all my time tweaking and adjusting to get it right. I want a machine that just works. And if a few hundred extra dollars is the price of that peace of mind, I'll pay it happily.
@@tyrannicpuppy To add to that, if tweaking and tuning your printer is a chore for you and not a fun part of a hobby, you could actually really easily get those couple hundred dollars out of a more expensive printer in time saved by not having to tweak and tune it. That tuning time can really rack up dozens of hours very easily
@@ZFGFZDGDFG I mean, depending on how old you are and in what stage of life you are, with a proper job you should be able to afford something like this. And in the long run it could even make sense to spend some extra money.
@@thatCbean I'm probably grabbing the X1C next month, coming from an Ender 3 which I've had since december 2018. I feel like it's only a logical choice because by now I've had my fair share of experience with tweaking, tuning, debugging and upgrading my 3D printer. Now I just want something that just works perfectly out of the box, can print better materials, can print faster, can print multiple colors or materials, and with a bigger build volume so that I can iterate faster on parts for my hobbies and functional use.
I enjoy fiddling around with this tech, but when I just want to print something without having to wait around the printer for 10 minutes to make sure the first layer sticks properly etc., it can be quite demovitating and I think it's the reason I haven't used the printer that much and haven't printed many big parts because of common failures.
When I order my P1S I'll be using your link. This was the most informative video I've seen on the pros and cons of each printer. Thanks!
I have the P1P. A workaround for getting the time lapse files from the SD card is to use FTP. Works like a charm!
Thanks for sharing. But I'm curious why do you need the video of the time lapse (unless you're doing TH-cam videos)?
Got a PS1 three months ago and have been blown away ever since. It is truly amazing. I print 6 days out of seven and have yet to have a print fail. I have Creality and a Snapmaker which do not even come close to this machine. It is fantastic!!!
I got a ps5. What games you got?
@@DrDreadful I see what you did there
Ignore the trolls. What do you print?
@@rrb79 I only saw one troll, DrDeeadul
Hi ! Thank you for this video! I've been watching this P1S for a few days now and just discovered your channel.
I love the fact that you're transparent about affiliate links and the fact that Bambu sent you this printer!
The LAN only mode having one lose functionalities that should not (in my opinion) require the use of a cloud is a real shame. I don't want any form of cloud, and I don't want to then pay for a camera that I wouldn't be able to use. Not sure yet if it's a dealbreaker for me, but that's certainly a blow.
I am an engineer (retired). If I am making vehicle parts or robot parts or other machines, then the carbon filaments are important for strength. I will look into how much it would cost to add the components to do these materials. This was a great video. For my situation, it would have been good to hear more about the filaments this P1s does not handle.
I just started my 3D printing journey a few months ago. Like many, I started with an Ender 3. I've done a handful of mods to improve it, but I am planning on moving onto the Bambu P1S next.
I wanted a printer with enclosure for printing other filament than PLA and PETG so I sold my A1 and bought the P1S. The P1S got a lot off warping with PLA especially on the left side. For every day printing cleaned my plate with hot water and soap. So I was disappointed and want the A1 back. Looked at internet and there was a lot of the same problem. What I thought could be the problem was the Aux Fan and that seems the solution they mentioned. Tried it on 10% and 0% and It worked for me. No warping with PLA. Hope it will continue so. For the rest I am happy with the P1S. Liked your channel.
@MadRC ,
I am bummed that I got mine before you posted this video, or I would have indeed used your affilliate link to support your amazing work. I just wanted to say that I too have the P1S and it just worked brilliantly right out of the box. I have printed literally dozens of things up to this point and have never had a single issue or print failure. I did not get the version with the AMS because I just don't need it for the kind of printing I regularly do, but I DO use it to make multi-color TPU prints and the ease with which you can change filaments at specific layers is absolutely amazing. You simply right click on the layer in Bambu studio where you want to change the color, and insert a "pause" and then either use Studio or the touch pad to unload and then reload the new filament and hit "done", then press the "play" or continue button and the P1S picks up right where you left off and creates PERFECT multi layered color prints. It is absolutely mind blowing how easy and how good it is.
Great video, great review and my experiences 100% mirror yours sir.
Thanks, never noticed that before!
Great video! Just wanted to mention that polymers means plastic, which all filaments are.
I think you were referring to composites/abrasive materials. :)
I just bought the P1S combo and I’m happy I did. Great review!!
Did it come with any freebies like filament? What's in the box? 😂
Did you get the anti vibration feet?
@@twsbibanghorn7343 No filament but it does come with a few extra cutting blades and some small maintenance items extra. No "anti-vibration" feet that I know of. I might look into that more though. It's been rock solid since I got it.
Still printing flawlessly. The only issues I have had are with bad filament and with poor .stl files. The printer works perfectly though!
My printer is going to come next week. Im brand new to the 3D printing world but I am a 3D artist for more than 6 years. Time to make my art come to real life!
You are absolutely on the money concerning P1S vs X1C. After the simple upgrade on P1S, of changing the hot end and extruder, gear you have what X1C can do. As for the display panels, I can't justify $500 for the difference. In fact what I can justify is the fact I already have 2 and am shooting for another 2. Four of P1S at $950 ea is $3.8g. Four of X1C is $6g. That's a lot of cash difference which can now go to alot of Ale, with a zero compromise in output quality.
Ale yeah
I've been FTP to my P1S to get timelaps and such off it. It saves me having to take the SD card in and out. Only issue is its slow. 250kbs max. and if the printer is doing anything then its half of that if your lucky. Only other kinda issues ive had have been the camera. It just pauses and does not update after 10-20 mins. The handy app is the same. The older versions of studio would then freeze and crash. New one freezes but you can switch off the video and then back on and it works again. The Cloud printing is useful but i would prefer to use Lan mode and have camera and also it been nice to have print history and stats thats not just in the handy app. I have had times where its been super slow to upload and or download from the cloud. Hopefully they will update this in the future. Hardened gears and hotend upgrade only cost me 50 quid more. Only other thing id say is i dont think you mentioned the print bed surface. The P1S comes with a very nice double sided PEI textured steel sheet which is different to both the other printers in the line up. Cheers.
So a week and a half ago I upgraded from an old Ender 3 V2 by by buying two Ender 3 KE's. I had long ago put away my original Ender because it required too much Faffing around. The KE's were definitely an upgrade and printed nicely when they worked. One printed flawlessly. The other was wrought with issues .. all resolved with work ... then it suffered a catastrophic failure on the hot end. I took them both back and bit the bullet buying a P1S and an AMS. It prints like a dream with no print cleanup necessary when designed and oriented correctly. But either one and you will be happy!
Possibly one of the most complete, fair/unbiased, and concise reviews of any product that I've ever seen. That being said, I still can't decide! LOL I've been working with an Ender 3 V2 Neo for about the past year, and I have really got myself dialed in with both the printing as well as my CAD skills and I think it's time to upgrade. Knowing myself the way I do, I will probably fork over the extra money for the X1 so that I don't have any regrets that I "cheaped out". Thanks again for your review/opinion.
What CAD software do you use?
Awesome review which I totally share, I'm really in love with my P1S which I have now for a couple of months. It really is the best printer I have ever owned and used. When I bought it I was in doubt to get the X1 or the P1S but I have had no regrets what so ever, I upgraded the hotted to a hardened nozzle and the extruder to hardened gear and that is really all you need to print even the most exotic filaments. Also the prices of the replacement stuff are really reasonable. Overall a very good experience with the printer and AMS.
Thank you for this, this is the best review/comparison I've found so far as you touched on everything I wanted to know and simply so. Definitely going with the P1S, that camera is a bummer, though.
Best comparison video I've come across, thank you! You pointed out so many differences that most have left out.
Excellent video! This answered more questions I had than any other video, and I've watched a lot of them. Way to go!
Buying a P1S myself. This will be my second 3D printer. My current printer is an inexpensive ANET ET4 and although it can print well at slow speeds. It's biggest drawback in the capacitive sensor used to sense bed leveling. It will often drift depending on temperature and becomes a pain having to re-adjust the sensor with a small screwdriver before every print cycle which can take 30 minutes or more. I'm hoping this printer will allow me enjoy more print time and less screwing around time. I'm going to try bed leveling the ET4 printer by adding a single optical sensor on the Z axis to detect the bed level without a sensor on the print head. If the bed is level, then one point alone should dictate the level. Wish me luck.
Absolutely perfect review! You addressed every question I had and explained it. And I love that you touched on having the options vs not having.... a very true and honest review and helped more than you know! THANK YOU!
In my experience in purchasing any technology is the day after I purchase the item a new improved model comes out. Any thoughts about the P1S coming out with a color touchscreen control device soon?
Great Video. 👍👍100% Agree with your evaluation. Just bought a P1S a week ago, it's my very first 3D Printer, and as you stated, it's incredible. I think its had a couple of hours turned off since I bought it. Very good beginner printer, and experts that just want to sit back and let the printer do its stuff. I'm amazed at the software and apps that come with it, just out shopping and checked out the current print on my phone, live feed, very handy indeed.
I had to pause the video and just say; what an amazing video quality and good voice!
In truth, I've owned five previous 3D printers and the P1S is head and shoulders above the others. It just works. And that's the highest compliment I can give it.
I love mine. I was literally about to buy a P1P until I saw an announcement/video on P1S. I've had a number of Ender printers and this was by far the best I've had so far.
I'm getting this. Convinced. What a good video as well! So detailed. I was on the fence. This looks beautiful. Coming from years of enders and cr10s lolol I'm ready.
Me too! Ready to move on from 7 years of Enders
Great review! Although I would recommend getting the X1C, that Lidar feature is getting a lot of tweaking by Bambu recently which results in much better print quality. Eventually it will be a must have for perfect prints, just having everything automatic, I love it.
@@Pineappletomato Yes it is, I always turn it on before any print even if it has the correct values. It just ensures me it will always print in the highest quality. Besides the manual setup (which I've also done to test if it comes close to auto) takes quite some time. And I switch filaments a lot.
@@rb3431 Was the manual setup close to automatic?
Thanks!
Great printer. I‘m thinking about switching to Bambu Lab. Great print quality out of the box and you get what you were promised. Yeah, its more expensive, but you can spend more time on creating parts and printing instead of tinkering around.
I'm guessing there must have been a software update since you made this video but I just bought a p1s and I can download my time lapses from the bamboo Studio on my computer no need to take out the SD card
Yea they added it later
I just got a P1S after owning an ender 3 pro for about 3 years. Why didnt i save myself this headache months ago. The p1s has been printing nonstop with no tinkering since ive opened it. Best decision ive made.
Great write up and I agree with what you say in regards to the p1s, my only very slight niggle with the p1s is that some times the first layer can play up, but as you mention in the video keep an eye on the first layer then you can walk away from the print. Just to add I have only had minor issues with the first layer due to using the cool plate option 35deg c. Little bit of glue on the pei sheet and it's golden. Also I think if they adjusted the print head g code to wait until the nozzle to hit tepreture instead of starting the print run when the head is a couple of degrees lower this will help as well.
Thanks for such a comprehensive overview of the differences between these printers. It's helped me immensely in my decision. I have decided to go with the P1S. I am most interested in print quality so this is really the best choice for me. Thank you so very much.
I bought the A1 because I seen all the reviews. I got it on sell for $339, I figured let me give it a shot , if it sucks I will return it. I WAS BLOWN AWAY THATS I ALL HAVE TO SAY. Coming from 3 different Creality printers. This is a steal for $339. I am so impressed that I am going to purchase the P1S for me and recommend the X1C for work!! Do not hesitate to get a Bambu!
At about 5:20 it should be noted that Bambu states you should not use abrasive filaments (such as Carbon Fiber) with the AMS.
Is that still the case? That makes me lean towards not getting it then. Cf needs to stay enclosed more than most other filaments. Rather just get a nice drier box , manual changing filaments doesn’t seem hard to do
20:00 these “Cloud Only” functionality built into the apps is the most Diabolical “service” for “products” we buy and supposedly “own”
Have been diving into Bambu for my next printer (have a MK3S+ now) and found this the best and most useful video. I love that you focus on real usage situations and not just drilling all the same things all the others do. One extra thing I prefer the P1S for (vs the X1C) is that It's (apparently) slightly less noisy. Although It's probably such a minor difference they'll both sound noisy. Did you experience any differences on sound levels? The noise is the biggest reason the MK4 is still in the mix.
I’ve found the X1C to actually be a bit quieter than the P1S
Only issues I've had with my p1s is warping when printing with ABS prints and some with ASA. Not sure if the x1c handles those filaments better? That and carbon may be my excuse to get a x1c as well.
Best explanation video of differences between P1S and X1C that I have seen!
I'm going for the Bambu Labs P1S. Given your explanation, I can live with a lower quality camera (I've never had one before, so this is already a step forward).
I can live with having to use the SD card every now and then for the timelapses. And for the price difference, I would rather upgrade the P1S with, among other things, different nozzles and buy a Bambu Labs A1 Mini that I then use for small and 0.2 prints, for example. Or a resin printer instead of the A1 Mini.
I can live with the difference in screen. And a side that has not yet been treated. If the screen ever breaks, the P1S replacement screen is significantly cheaper (almost 5x) than an X1C replacement screen.
Thank you for the very clear explanation.
Great review.
The only thing missing is your opinion on the noise. Now that I know that LAN mode would work fine for my needs, that's my only remaining concern.
It’s loud but it’s not K1 loud. It’s definitely louder than a Prusa but the Creality K1 is louder. The thing with the fast printers is the fans are all jacked up. I did miss this aspect in this review but I will be covering it later in a comparison.
I'm not sure you can get such a level of speed and performance without the noise. It's a trade off.
There’s an issue with LAN Only mode. If you have your printer on a vLAN different than your computer it will be a struggle getting connected.
The P1S advertises itself to Bambu Studio, and that doesn’t natively go across vLANs. There are work arounds, some routers can forward the broadcast, others don’t, so you may need to spoof the UDP broadcast packet so Bambu Studio knows where the printer is.
I am thinking of replacing my Flashforge Adventurer 3 and getting a P1S. All the Adventurer 3 gives me is loading trouble every time I use it. Most prints fail as well.
Are you able to change the filament color yourself when printing a model you want to have multiple colors without buying the AMS?
I'm planning on getting it(P1s+ams) sometime next year, after upgrading some old 3d printers and buying a Neptune 3 or 4 Max. Also, love the enclosure, unlike the P1P.
24:05 - THERE IS NO LINK TO BAMBU AT ALL
just to let you know cause I had to search for the printer and website to check the specs. So might be worth to add that link soon.
I just added it sorry a mistake. It’s here to shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2377904&u=2831068&m=138211&urllink=&afftrack=
Hey i have a X1 and its just amazing for the CF materials. Given we can replace the gears and hotend for the hardened steel versions, im assuming that the P1S can use all CF reinforced materials that bambu offer but i have seen peopel doubting this without giving good reasons. Have you tried this upgrade and printed with PLA-CF/PEG-CF/Nylon-CF etc.?
6 months and a few firmware updates later, how much of a difference do you think the lidar makes now? If the P1 had a better camera and and screen, I wouldn't even think about which one to get, but, that's where I am. I plan to print most all materials (Nylon, ASA, etc etc) and I wonder how much time/filament the lidar saves in calibrating.
You've got the best videos! So entertaining. C'mon Bambu give this guy an official affiliate link
Is it possible to upscale, in other words, if one buys a certain file for printing a flower, can they make some adjustments on the printer to "scale up" the model, would this affect the quality or the strength? I will be using it for RC airplanes where keeping the exact scale and strength are important.
Thanks
You think this would be ok to use in front of a window? I only have space left atop my dresser which is in front of a window with an air conditioner in it. My old printer had issues but it wasn’t enclosed like this.
Watch a few of you video now an very informative, so thanks for sharing.
I have a question, I'm fresh to 3D printers and set on the Bambu range. Should I choose the new A1 with AMS lite over the P1S?. The X1C is out of my price range. I'm thinking of future proofing. The A1/AMS seems to be the best value (And provides color options) but cannot print ABS, ASA etc. For the P1S I know I can purchase the AMS later if I need multiple color, and its provides the enclosure for ABS, ASA etc later if I decide the graduate to those filaments. Right now I'm torn on which to choose. Bed slinger or XY. The price of the P1S is like $150 dearer than the A1/AMS. Can you help guide me on best option here between the 1. I have excluded the P1P
Just bought the P1S. Can you elaborate more on the nozzle types as I would like to print ABS. On their site, it says that the .2mm and .4 (comes with the printer) are compatible with ABS.
Thank you for the advice Ian, I’m looking to update from my Ender 3 and this one is really interesting. Sorry, beginner question: is it possible to print without using the AMS? I have my own filament dryer, can you feed the machine from there too?
Well having followed you and +xjets print bed instructions to the letter it probably is the sort of thing I need
I've just used your link to purchase an X1-C. Not sure if you still get a payment as I'm UK.. Took all your review on board and you are probably right, X1 may not be worth the extra but I didn't want to regret not going for the X1..
I have an original Ender 3 which I have been using for 4 years, an Ender 5 and CR-10.. Looking forward to a trouble free multi colour printer..
if you don't use the AMS right away , where does the filament go ? can you still do multicolor prints by swapping colors the old fashioned way ?
you used the word "polymer" in describing the hot end/extruder capabilities. are you referring to fiber filled or plastic alloy?
Great video. I am in a toss up between these two or the K1 Max at the moment. This has helped give a little more information to that decision. The 'it just works' factor is such a nice thing for someone like me that wants to get into making my own stuff, but doesn't want to have to continually micro manage or tweak the printer to get good results.
So which one did you get? I feel same as you and looking to get one of the 3.
@@williamphillips777 In the end I went with the X1C. Currently about 700 hours of printing down since I got it in October. And I love it. It really does just work almost every single time. Have had a few teething problems that were mostly my fault. Or resulted in trying to multimaterial print PLA and PETG (I just haven't been able to get PETG to work as yet, it sticks to the nozzle once it gets so high and that can pull it off the plate, but PLA is pretty much plug and play). Not sure if I just have a dud roll of PETG. Going to try some ABS/ASA and a new roll of PETG shortly to test my metle on other types of plastic now I've got the big thing I wanted to make done.
In the end, decided I don't presently need the bigger plate size. Printed a few things that took up the whole plate and they come out great. Currently on the last on a 25 plate print for a BC-304 from Stargate and it's come out a treat. Precision on parts if pretty much spot on right off the plate. I've only had to file or sand a couple of bits to get them to fit. Some things mesh so tightly I actually had to buy a mallet to help gently get them fully seated. The app is head and shoulders above the Creality option too. If all you want is printer info, it opens on the screen for me and gives me details without ads. Live view is awesome, but does chew up your phones data if you're not on wifi.
My only issues so far is occasionally the poop will somehow flick out into the machine instead of down the chute. Only happened three times over those seven hundred hours. And usually only happens if a part fails and I've had to cancel it off the plate and continue the rest (an awesome feature in and of itself that has saved a lot of filament waste if I didn't give a tall piece enough support).
The head movement is quite violent, so if you have other loose items on the surface you plan to use it on, it will rattle them about. And this can be enough to knock thin parts or tiny tree supports loose during a print. Can be controlled by lowering speeds in the slicer, but it has caused restarts or alterations on a couple of prints to date.
I did not have any failure to pullback errors until I added a second AMS and the Hub. Though a few easily printable bits and some disassembly of the AMSs fixed that quick smart.
A couple of times it will have a tiny fleck of hardened plastic that seeped out of the nozzle in the way when levelling, which can result in it being too high when putting down the first layer. I've had to stop those and restart (on the built in screen) and the second time just works now that it's cleared that tiny bit. And when ironing parts, I get s thin film of melted plastic around the nozzle I clear off with some tweezers before starting another job.
I clogged the nozzle switching from PETG to PLA (as the PETG support). Managed to get the PETG in the section between the extruder and the nozzle to bow outwards just a tiny bit that meant it was wider than the opening at the top and bottom. So it wouldn't just pull free. Had to disassemble the entire head to get at the stuck piece. However, this was super easy. A few screws and a couple of leads you need to disconnect. Their documentation is excellent and there are many videos showing step by step how to make such maintenance.
Had a brittle piece of filament break off inside the AMS between the first and second stage that I had to pull the AMS apart to remove. Again, quick and easy to do. Hardest part is reattaching the two internal cables as they're just long enough to reach but only when the upper segment is pretty close. So can be a touch fiddly to connect.
And that's it. In the three months I've had it, that's everything that has gone wrong. Almost all one offs that were quick and easy to clear or fix and get back to printing. And most of those pop an error on screen with a QR code you can scan for more detail on what's up and how to fix it.
As for the X1C vs the P1S, I decided to go all in. I think the X1C screen is far superior to the P1S interface and just this last week a group have released an open source firmware alternative (X1+) for the X1C that cannot be used on the P series. So if you're interested in fiddling, that's a plus over the P series now as well, but will void the warranty if that's important to you. I'm personally steering clear, but am excited to see those community advancements filter into the official firmware too. The camera quality is great on my PC attached to a 4K tv and my phone screen. Not sure if the LIDAR has been doing anything as most every print has just worked with the exceptions of the couple I saw it going funny and stopped before it even did the first layer checks. And I have had one spaghetti alert (which I think is an AI exclusive feature to the X series) where a few tall bits lacking support fell over once they got too tall. Flag them to stop, pulled them and the spaghetti off the plate and allowed to continue the rest of the already 2/3 done print. Then whacked the bits that failed on a new plate with some support and they came out perfect just last night.
My printing room is right next to the kitchen, so every few prints I pull the plate off (almost exclusively used the Cool Plate so far) and give it a clean with dish sopa, hot water and a standard kitchen sponge/scrubber I've put aside for printer use only. Comes completely clean every time, dry both sides with microfibre cloths and reglue it and it's back on the machine within 15 minutes. Have only cleaned the rods once so far. And I've printed a bunch of accessories and containers on the machine which have tidied the area and keep everything right there at arms reach too. Best thing about a 3D printer imo is that if you need a new holder or something, the tool is right there in front of you. The AMS stacker has been my favourite so far. And there are so many ready to print drawer and container options on both Printables and MakerWorld.
Sure, they are pricey to buy outright, but in my experience so far, they do exactly what they're meant to do extremely reliably. I have not had to nurse it like my old Ender 3 Max. No tweaking the Z offset before every single print and spending 20 mins levelling the bed. The Bambu Studio software is clean concise and easily usable, though the units will work with other programs too. I have not bothered with SD transfer, sending all jobs so far direct from the slicer via wifi. And the mobile app is just as easy to use if you do want to print direct from it. Done a few jobs while sitting at work and knowing the printer was sitting idle at home with a clean bed. It is a closed ecosystem, but everything in it works extremely well, and does allow for certain 3rd party options for things. Which only looks to grow over the coming months (a company just released an official 3rd party hi-flow nozzle). So that could be a plus or minus for you based on your own personal preferences on that topic.
Definitely not a purchase I have regretted at all to date. Can highly recommend the BL gear. From what I have seen, if you need just basic PLA and nothing else, the A1 is the way to go. If you want to do tougher filaments, the enclosure definitely helps (though only the X1E has a heater inside, but mine regularly sits about about 30C inside). And if you want the peace of mind of the few extras bells and whistles the X1C has been great for me.
@@tyrannicpuppy wow thank you so much for the extensive reply and all the great information! Me and my friend have been debating this as we are both in the market and looking to get one of the 3. You have confirmed some of the thoughts we were having as well and I'm leaning x1 even more so now. Again thank you!
@@williamphillips777 no problem. I did plenty of looking around and was torn between the options for ages. So happy to pay it forward to others. These vids definitely helped me make my decision.
Just a remark: all the materials of the filaments you normally print on these machines ARE POLYMERS, harder nozzles allow you to print REINFORCED POLYMERS such as glass fiber reinforced polymers or carbon reinforced polymers, where the fibers (or other kind of particles, they might be even ceramic or metal micro- or nano-spheres) are embedded in the polymeric matrix. The hardness of these reinforcing particles might quickly wear out standard nozzles made of brass or not-hardened steel, while nozzles made of harder (or hardened) materials might withstand this abrasion better and for longer, making them more suitable for such reinforced polymer filaments.
I want to get a P1S and buy hardened steel nozzle hot end and hardened steel extruder gears with it, if I did that could I print abrasive filaments like the X1C?
Flawless review! Thank you for your time
Well here we go.. I have owned the X1C for a few months and just pulled the trigger on the P1S because of this review 😅 I hope it really is close to print and leave as my carbon
What do you think now that you have had both for some time
@@hillnothey both print the same, I actually use my P1S more since I have PLA loaded into it and have ABS in my X1C. But I have used ABS on the P1S and it had identical print quality. With all the upgrades Bambu had done to the P1S the list of items exclusive to the X1C is very minimal and I’m sure over time will be non existent (from a software side). The X1C has a faster processor for things other than printing, when it comes to printing they are both press start and print. I have had 3 failures on the P1S out of like 100, and that was due to me not wiping off the build plate every so often. Save the cash and buy the P1S!
My p1s with ams comes soon. Im tired of wasting my design time fixing my ender 5 print issues. Cant waste my time fixing prints all day.
I love my ender 5 plus because the build size but its annoying to tweak all the time. Especially when it messes up at the end of a 25 hour print
Fantastic in depth review with the comparisons. Now I'm just waiting to see what they release on the 20th. A bigger build plate seals the deal
I got a P1S Combo, extra AMS, hardened gears, 3 hotends and a dozen rolls of filament for the price of just a X1C Combo and itll print just as well. Kind of a no brainer unless you have money to burn that could get you an entire A1 Combo or two A1 minis.
Looking at the p1s with ams. I had an elegoo Neptune 4 before but wanted to do multicolor prints. Would it be better to wait for a sale or should I buy now? Could there be a black Friday or Christmas sale?
Thank you for the wonderful review. Will be getting a P1S with your link as a thank you 👍
I have the P1P, and I got work to purchase a X1 Carbon. Wish I knew how to disable the Lidar & calibration print, Printing from sd card as it's not allowed on the network
I have the X1 and was contemplating getting the P1S to use my .2 nozzle as I am constantly swapping them (even though it is a 3 minute job). As for the LiDAR, I HAVE noticed a difference. I typically do not run the filament calibration every print but I have noticed after several dozen hours of different prints the print quality 'degrades' enough to be noticeable. Running the filament calibration returns it to the quality I have come to expect. So if you run it for EVERY print or even every other print, you will not notice. However, dozens of prints with out calibrating it will show some degradation.
I wonder, would it be possible to upgrade the cam in P1S, to 1080p? I don't know if anyone have doing that?
Oh ... is RFID and NFC the same thing? Since the Bambu is using RFID :)
Yea it is. RFID is the public term. NFC is the the technical term. I should really say RFID
Thank you! @@MadRC, I just learned something new today. Awesome.
19:53 It's four months since this video was recorded, can anybody confirm if the mobile app can now work with the P1S in LAN mode? I'm considering getting one but this would be a deal breaker for me if it's still not working. Thanks
It’s in beta testing now. It will be soon.
What do you mean by not able to print polymers? All "plastics" are polymers.
I don't know what he means by his usage of the word "polymers", but in general the hardened parts let you print materials with abrasives mixed in. Things like chopped carbon fiber, glow in the dark additives, etc.
All sounds good but, pun intended, how loud are they? How many dB standing next to the printer for a P1P, P1S, and X1C when printing slow, fast and ludicrous?
Hello, great and so detailed video. Thank you. Can you please confirm that the speed of this printer is really 500 mm/s? Does this mean that, for example, it will print lithophane 10*10 cm within two hours? Do you have experience with printing the lithophanes and what are your impressions regarding the precision and details of the printing? Does this printer have the ability to work only with FDM material or? Does the software come with it or not?
Sorry for the many questions, but simply no matter who I ask, no one can give me an answer, not even the distributors for 3d printers - not even in general about the printing speed. Once again, thank you very much.
Any update on accessing the camera via LAN mode on the P1S?
I just got the printer. The first results seem to be great, but getting the thing connected to the cloud or the local lan is a serious pain in the ass. You'd think they made it as easy as entering the wifi code, but instead the machine asks to scan an QR code in their app (which asks a lot of printing unrelated info) and still requires bluetooth (which might not work).
Based on this video and coming from an Ender 3, I am stoked to have purchased the P1S with the AMS on Black Friday. Thank you !
Want to build a 3d print farm and start out with 4 printers at home. Would the x1c be a good choice?
I should have watched this video before buying my printer. But, I got the P1S anyways, so I'm happy with both these results, and my choice. I can make my own Touch Screen for it.
Hoorah! For the Xtouch dev!
Were does one find the rose pattern at 10:54? Thanks.
It would be interesting to see them compared for higher temperature filaments like nylon and polycarbonate, they seem to be where the x1c is better due to the higher bed temperature and probably better enclosure.
It would also be interesting to see how useful the lidar is for more exotic filaments like varioshore and lightweight PLA where the line width does change and without the lidar would require manual calibration. Most normal filaments will behave much the same so that reduces the usefulness of the lidar and calibrating extrusion for different types of PLA or ABS isn’t something you have to do even on a basic ender 3.
Does anyone know WHY the X1 has a higher bed temperature? Is there an actual reason or is it artificial? I hear different things like the heater element is smaller on the P1 and the material of the bed but in my experience using other printers I can get 110C+ even on old wimpy little 12V printers with terrible beds and heaters, it's just a lot slower.
@@_droid it is probably artificial, they probably use the same parts but who knows?
Very very new and looking into 3D printing and this was a very informative video!
Thank you!
the website doesn't mention that the hotend is upgradeable if a person buys the p1s, can you verify that it is doable? If I buy the p1s and upgrade hotends, can i then run polycarbonate and nylon? Or do i need the temp adjustments of the x1c still?
You can upgrade the gear for hardened.
2:00 What does registering involve?
so is the printer useless if you don't want to register?
Is the machine useless if one doesn't have a smartphone?
You will need a smartphone to activate. How’s ever once that’s done you can use it with out any internet at all via sd card.
I got into 3D printing a few years back with a AnyCubic Vyper. It was a pretty good printer and my only real issue had to do with storing stringiness, but was resolved when I dehumidified my reels. I looked for a step up and decided on the P1S with AMS as I was looking at multi-color printing. As former electro-mechanical tech, this machine is well built and impressive; is it well very well built. Also, this machine is speedy, produces great quality prints, and I am definately a fan. I purchased the PS1 as the X1 was a bit out of my price range, and am not sorry about my purchase. I had a party and gave away 3D prints as prizes, and every who asked about 3D printing got my unsolicited Bambu labs recommendation.
If someone is looking for their next 3D printer, I have to say, the Bambu printers are in a league of their own and recommend them wholeheartedly.
Hey, I also went from an Anicubic Viper to the P1S with AMS. My viper had a little incident where the print head partialy melted. And the P1S ist orders of magnitude better and easyer to use.
I think the P1S is a good upgrade from P1P. I weighed the two for my first 3D printer and chose the P1S with AMS. I don't think the X1 is worth the $500 increase.
I picked up a cheap ender 3 printer and have gotten bit by the 3D printing bug. Buying one of these is my next step for sure.
I finally got my P1S printer and I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. Not with the printer. I'm disappointed I didn't get something like this in the first place. When I did a test print for the bed scraper that comes on the SD card I was blown away. My first thought was, "this printer is insane!"😧. I've never seen a printer print that fast! And the quality of the prints are second to none. My only advice if you get one is to clean the PEI sheet with dish soap and warm water before printing to assure correct adhesion to the bed on the first layer. Just to add, I changed my P1S to LAN mode and although I could not use the app to view the camera, I could still view it in Bambu Studio.
Thankyou thats verry helpfull
Just picked this up and I’m excited that you also agree!
How loud is the printer? Seems like it would be too loud for indoor printing.
wow great video. i just bought a P1S as first printer. its in the post. wish me luck 😄
So the X1 Carbon is a bad value add for the price but how is a P1S Vs the equivalent Elegoo model?
@madrc Which mid range (£800 avg), core xy, enclosed printer do u recommend?
What specific upgrade for the print head is needed to make it like the X1? Can this be bought on the Bambu website and is it an easy install? Thanks for the video!
You can get the hardened gearset and hotend nozel and it’s basically the same.