A note about the SD cards. I use microSD cards in products I design, and we had a pretty sizeable issue with SD cards dying on us. Many manufacturers have "high endurance" cards. They come at a premium, but they have much greater write endurance. If Bambu is using the cards as cache, you'll always have issues with the cards wearing out, but you can take some steps to get longer life. Using cards that have wear leveling and purchasing larger cards can extend the life, but the best is to purchase a high endurance card. SanDisk's industrial cards also have a "health status register" that can be read with some custom microcontroller code -- not really necessary since you stock extra cards and just replace them when they wear out. Look for SLC NAND cards, and/or cards meant for DVR/Surveilance use. Good luck, and thanks for the review!
I concur, it seems the most likely cause of the SD cards dying. Using them as cache would wear them out much quicker than reading just the print files. Unless you use high endurance cards, like you said.
I agree with this but I would try adding a larger capacity sd card first. It needs around 28gb of space for cache so if you put a 128gb or 256gb in there you would have much longer before the corruption makes it so you can't use the card anymore. Also the prices aren't that bad at those sizes. Prints take up barley any space on the card at most a few 100mbs. So I imagine the failure happens when the printer can no longer access enough cache. You still might have the occasional corrupted print file but then reformatting should fix it until you wear out too many sectors of the card.
Corruption is also the likely issue with the printer starting, pausing and then going back to the home screen. I would second the use of high endurance cards, they are normally have 100's of time increased lifetime, so should outlast the printer once in the bottom of the bathtub curve.
I use Bambus exclusively at work. They do require some maintenance but much less than others. They’re easy to repair too. They are workhorses and would absolutely recommend to anyone
ive had a p1s for a couple of months and it has been so easy to print, change filiment, and and using the ams is amazing not for colorchanging but to keep multiple different filiment types ready to go in one click
I keep telling myself I don't need one, but it does sound convenient. I also only print in one color. The thing that really keeps stopping me is that it doesn't have any trouble resuming a print after running out even if it's been hours at least in my experience so far. Does a good job keeping the plate warm and picking up where it left off.
If they are actually using the SD card as a r/w cache for the device, would definitely consider getting a high endurance SD card to test to see if you get any more issues. microSD cards vary in quality, especially for write endurance.
I have to agree with all your points on usability and maintanence of the P1Ss. I have a small print farm of 14 P1S and A1s. A couple of P1s have over 7000hrs on them and are just starting to require i bit more work on them to keep them running smooth - the extruder.... Replace stock gears with the hardened steel ones and a clean every now and then. A+ channel you have.
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The SD card issue is well known amongst RaspberryPI users. Long story short, you're doing everything right EXCEPT getting quality SD cards that can sustain the amount of R/W longer than the cheap cards.
Same with digital photographers. We've realized they will fail, and the cheaper they are the quicker that will happen. Look for ones with good read/write speeds also.
As soon as he said something about caching, I thought of how I recently learned that SSDs have a longevity issue because frequent reading/writing to the drive quickly wears them out.
Thank you so very much for the videos, information and honest opinions. This only solidifies my purchases of the X1C and a P1S as I start on this hobby/journey. Very much looking forward to the upcoming course along with all other videos.
Your previous video on this topic was the reason I went with the Bambu P1S and I couldn't be happier. I went in knowing that there would be failures and issues I would have to troubleshoot but I have felt like there are so few that are not just me setting things up wrong or not knowing the material I am using. I did also run into the issue with the SD card even just after a few months use (I bought mine in October and have been running non stop). I really wish Bambu Lab had something in their firmware that would just throw an error notification in this state and stop the print. Part of my PEI sheet was ruined due to this failure because the nozzle dragged a circle around the printbed, so it has some potential to end badly for others. Thanks for bringing videos like this to people so they can make the right decision on what fits for them.
High endurance SD cards needed, it's likely a wear problem. Also, doublecheck you haven't enabled "restart/correct after step failure" option (or whatever it's called), restart after power failure options and any form of timelapse videos as all of these require continuously writing to the SD card to enable their function, drastically increasing number of write cycles and wearing them out quicker.
As one of the “Ender Bros” I’m glad we are both on to Bambu. Well done! I run only bambu now and have had some of those problems but mainly the extruder gear needing replaced. Otherwise they are phenomenal!
That video a year a go was the final push for me to buy a P1 as my first printer. It was a great pick and the hit print and forget reliability is second to non if you want to use a 3d printer as a tool and not as a hobby to work on. Thabks for the up!
this video came a video too late, already tired trying to fix my ender 3 max neo which no one supports, just bought p1s combo coming tomorrow and very excited, your review assured me, thank you very much, more info and tips is appreciated
Power Loss Recovery absolutely "Hammers" the sectors in the SD cards, I turned that off many MANY years ago and had NO failed SD cards since. If you absolutely need it, find yourself a quality USB drive and make sure it has a controller chip on it. That controller chip is there to help it run faster and checks sector integrity like a SSD or Hard Drive would. Meaning it will retire sectors that are being hammered If you have no other option other than SD cards, then sector maintenance can also be done with software using Check Disk in Windows for example. It will scan the drive and any sector that takes too long to read is removed from the file system. Meaning it will avoid writing to that sector.
Note about the printer that is not working or only works for short prints i suggest factory resetting it, i assume it is somehow out of memory or corrupted memory(i also do this with ssd's on PCs if they are slow or unreliable.i format the ssd then reinstall the OS be sure to backup data if it is readable)
I'm a professionnal photographer, and after seeing the brands of micro SD cards you use, I'm 99% convinced that is your issue : get Sandisk or Samsung cards as they are the best, or Lexar, Kingston or Patriot (not as good but okay).
Freeze of death has always resumed for me. Sometimes an hour or more later, but the print resumes perfectly even when screen is dead. Also you need a Panda Touch. It will run 1m printers ( not sure why it has a limitation ) and save you tonnes of time.
Just change your plates to bambu super tack. You'll never have problems with bed adhesion again. They will also save you money on power as the plate doesnt need be as hot.
Have you considered investing in the Bamboo Labs AMS for your printers? You can shoot another video on that topic, I think. Just an idea. Have fun, Travis! And thanks for sharing your experience!
Growing up, my Dad always bought a replacement Black and White TV, until he couldn't find one and had to buy a Color TV. The same thing happened to my son's insulin pump. Black and White screen until the newer model has a color screen. Basically BW screens become more expensive color screens. So manufacturers have to switch to color screens.
Some really interesting info here. With the advent of Prusa's Core One this is not as clear cut as it would have been before Core One but that scrap, failed print data showing the Bambu to be more consistent than the mk4..... Interesting. Makes me feel better about just recently having bought a P1S for sure.
There is no reason for modern micro-sd cards to go bad, except because of the huge timelapse that gets recorded🤔. You can fix most sdcards, by doing a low level format. Not sure why there is an issue with changing filaments, it is as simple as unload/load, just two clicks, followed by pulling out/pushing in(just keep track of temp, feel for filament movement). Not sure, if its due to use of AMS, which I don't. Issues with AMS can be a bit painful and can drive you crazy. Changing hotend and extruder is nothing but royal pain. PEI textured plate never wears out, if you cool your plate sufficiently(external air blower), apart from a coat of ipa, with a no-lint paper towel. There are times, a misplaced buildplate throwing subtle hms errors, but nothing major.❤👍
My creality cr10s pro v2 goes wonky sometimes. I use a 32gb sandisk. The card gets corrupted when there's too many files on it. So I keep saved files to a small number.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Just for wonder, what is maximum hours what you have on one printer? Half a year ago, I bought P1S as my first 3D printer. Partially also because of your previous video. Now I have 1300hrs printed with no issue caused by printer at all. I'm really happy about it.
@shopnation Great video!! Really appreciate you sharing your experience. Reassures me that Bambu P1S is the printer to get in the new year. As for the SD card issue, as others have mentioned read/write cache is probably just wearing them out. Though I thought I’d add trying InitDisk & Spinrite from GRC to see if the cards can be revived.
What is the bushing on the carbon rods? I built a Hypercube in 2017 with carbon fibre rods and printed PLA bearings. Greasing them with silicone gearbox oil made the bushings last 6 months. Just one hobbyist non-farm data point but it worked for me.
I have 3 P1Ps and they have been running strong for at least a year. My biggest complaint has always been that its too small. I regularly have to use my voron purely because of size constraints. Bambu, please make me a 400mm printer.
The SD card issue might be solved by using high cycle cards. Generally used for dash cams in the like they are designed for near continual read write cycles
I'm curious - if they are so reliant on the cloud (which the video alluded to early on) why use SD cards for anything other than cache? Surely there's a centralised cloud hub or something that would make sending files remotely the better way, especially if the X1 models already support it?
Great video, helpful insight as usual. As possible helpful idea for the microSD cards... they do sell high endurance versions. Will be up to you if the price difference is worth it.
I’ve had my P1S for just over a year now, and this weekend the microSD card died… The error it was throwing was a little vague in terms of the culprit, so I restarted a print twice before I gave up on it. At first I thought it was too big of a file, and that it was rewriting over itself, but after that second restart, I just decided to replace it. I ended up throwing a 256 GB card in it lol
On the corruption on the SD cards, I think you're onto something about the amount of read/writes before it becomes corrupted. Working in IT for so many years, I've seen this on USB drives, etc. Without an easy solution, I wonder if you can just push the files over the network from your computer vs using an SD card for each printer. I'm not knowledgeable in the 3D print space, but changing the delivery method, if feasible, might be worth trying. You've obviously already spoken with their support, so I assume if there were alternative methods, they would have suggested, just thinking out loud here.
I think you got the same maintenance book as me, LOL. Seriously though, good engineering should obviate the need for frequent maintenance. How many cars need tuneups or transmission fluid changes anymore?
Just a question, what would you approximate the maintenance cost for a single printer to be? Over let’s say, the entire lifetime. And how long do you think a bambulab p1s lifetime is? Approximating of course. Any feedback/ experiences welcome!
Usually maintenance can be estimated to be 5-10% of the printer cost per year. So for the P1S you're looking at $30-$60 per year for maintenance (may be a little high). In my print farm environment I will be lucky to get 3 years out of a printer before it becomes counterproductive to maintain. For a "normal" use printer I would estimate ~5 years of useful life
@ damn thank you for you quick response haha.. just one more question, since I don’t know what you find “normal use”.. how much print hours do you think a p1s can run for in its lifetime?😁
Great video, thanks, regarding the SD card it is due to over-writting above its rated capcity. It is 100% the cache causing this, if the device uses the card for cache. The solution is simple, get an edurance Micro SD Card, they are used for these purposes or similar demanding applications like CCTV recordings.
@@diogor420 The original version had a trans joke that didn't add anything to the video, wasn't all that funny, and would likely have gotten him cancelled. Tbh, I shut off the video the first time when the joke hit (like 1.5 minutes in). I didn't say anything in the comments or anything, because I'm not that guy. I just quietly disappear. When I saw the video was re-upped I checked in just to see if that was the reason and I'm glad it was.
@@ShopNationIt did kinda sound like you had a few that had to go. -You mentioned the one that's lost all connectivity, but sounds like you can still print? -The oldest printers not printing - probably micro SD related, maybe I think the newest update (from the past week) can allow for updating from the SD card? Maybe you can fix that first one 👍
I've un into one issue that I totally consider my fault, but which has pretty much deadlinned one of my printers. I have 2 P1S's on in production, and 3 A1 Mini's, 1 in production. The P1S and one of the A1 Mini's that are not in production are still in box pending a re-arrangement of my printing space. The A1 Mini that is non-operational is because I was tired one day, didn't notice that bed adhesion was an issue, and filled the hot end space with filament. Big Blob of PLA. (A1 Mini's pretty much are going to be reserved for PLA, so they are all getting cool beds as they are put back into production.) The extruder full of PLA has left me wondering where I can get 'just that' (Effectively the extruder module to slide onto the gantry rail and link up. Nice that they are all USB connected.) Haven't had any luck finding this part. I've already damaged the front cover, which I think I can find a replacement for, it's the rest of the assembly. The PLA in it is blocking access to a number of screws that I would need to remove to disassemble, and the damage to the cover has discouraged me from using a heat gun to melt down the PLA to remove it. Maybe if I pop the whole assembly into an oven set to 130 F tomorrow while my sister-in-law is away at work... Maybe. Or I could do that at my place up north, maybe. I know, get a toaster oven at the pawn shop... Really for this I need to get the PLA above it's glass temp, and keep the remainder of the extruder below it's edition of that. We'll see. (probably be a good idea to print off a cube each of PLA and PETG, and see if I can get the PLA to above glass, with the petg below, and hope that the rest of the extruder plastic has a higher glass temp than PETG... Hope.
I really don't understand why the P1 models have the screen they do. Seems like a downgrade even compared to the A1 models. But I suppose most people are just using the app/software from their phone/computer.
As someone who just got the p1s, I didn’t know this was a concern that people have because I’m always sitting at my computer or watching from my phone. I’m surprised that this is a common concern, but after seeing a farm like this, it makes more sense to me now.
@ShopNation for sure. If it was around 650-700 I would actually genuinely consider it over my P1S. But as is I'm a hobbyist and not a print farm runner. The P1S is plenty. And I'll probably upgrade the gears in the future in the extruder for abrasives too.
Why the SD cards? Why not just send it through the slicer? Is it cuz it's the customer's model, and you are technically uploading it to Bambu's servers? I got my P1S a little over a week ago, and I LOVE that feature, and I could imagine it's even more helpful in a print farm, but is there a reason to be concerned? I don't know
Sd cards are just inherently unreliable. Lowest endurance nand on the market. Even the best ones have a tiny fraction of the endurance of a consumer SSD which themselves have a fraction of the industrial server stuff. It doesn't really relate to bambu asside from the fact they cache and do stuff for power loss recovery. It would be much worse if you saved Timelapse.
Your SD card issue could be caused by static electricity. To avoid this, avoid touching the contact with your fingers. Alternatively, you could try formatting the SD card after numerous hours of use, as it could also be due to numerous read and writes.
I think the carbon rods with metal rod/bearings was a bad design choice, but great when it comes to marketing. The dust from the carbon rods builds up on the metal rods which can cause wear if you dont maintain them well, and the oil from the metal rods can seep into the carbon rods if you arent careful. I feel it should either be both carbon rods/bushings or both metal rods/bearings since they dont play nice with each other. I oiled my metal rods a few times and noticed the oil almost seeps throughout the glass fiber bearing mounts and tries to make its way on to the carbon rods even after using rubbing alcohol and wiping it all down several times.
I purchased your DeWalt miter saw dust collection attachement. BUYER BEWARE!!!! A small cut off hit the plasttic attachment and it shattered everywhere, inlcuding all over my face! The plastic used in this product is not safe! Please redesign and try and get a recall before someone ge
he made a video on this, most likely it was user error. you have to clear the cutoffs after every cut or else you risk them flying into the dust attachment. how many cutoffs did you leave on the saw before it happened?
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A note about the SD cards. I use microSD cards in products I design, and we had a pretty sizeable issue with SD cards dying on us. Many manufacturers have "high endurance" cards. They come at a premium, but they have much greater write endurance. If Bambu is using the cards as cache, you'll always have issues with the cards wearing out, but you can take some steps to get longer life. Using cards that have wear leveling and purchasing larger cards can extend the life, but the best is to purchase a high endurance card. SanDisk's industrial cards also have a "health status register" that can be read with some custom microcontroller code -- not really necessary since you stock extra cards and just replace them when they wear out. Look for SLC NAND cards, and/or cards meant for DVR/Surveilance use. Good luck, and thanks for the review!
Great insight, thank you!
I concur, it seems the most likely cause of the SD cards dying. Using them as cache would wear them out much quicker than reading just the print files. Unless you use high endurance cards, like you said.
Kingston Industrial SD card.
I agree with this but I would try adding a larger capacity sd card first. It needs around 28gb of space for cache so if you put a 128gb or 256gb in there you would have much longer before the corruption makes it so you can't use the card anymore. Also the prices aren't that bad at those sizes. Prints take up barley any space on the card at most a few 100mbs. So I imagine the failure happens when the printer can no longer access enough cache. You still might have the occasional corrupted print file but then reformatting should fix it until you wear out too many sectors of the card.
Corruption is also the likely issue with the printer starting, pausing and then going back to the home screen. I would second the use of high endurance cards, they are normally have 100's of time increased lifetime, so should outlast the printer once in the bottom of the bathtub curve.
I use Bambus exclusively at work. They do require some maintenance but much less than others. They’re easy to repair too. They are workhorses and would absolutely recommend to anyone
ive had a p1s for a couple of months and it has been so easy to print, change filiment, and and using the ams is amazing not for colorchanging but to keep multiple different filiment types ready to go in one click
I keep telling myself I don't need one, but it does sound convenient. I also only print in one color. The thing that really keeps stopping me is that it doesn't have any trouble resuming a print after running out even if it's been hours at least in my experience so far. Does a good job keeping the plate warm and picking up where it left off.
If they are actually using the SD card as a r/w cache for the device, would definitely consider getting a high endurance SD card to test to see if you get any more issues. microSD cards vary in quality, especially for write endurance.
I have to agree with all your points on usability and maintanence of the P1Ss. I have a small print farm of 14 P1S and A1s. A couple of P1s have over 7000hrs on them and are just starting to require i bit more work on them to keep them running smooth - the extruder....
Replace stock gears with the hardened steel ones and a clean every now and then.
A+ channel you have.
The SD card issue is well known amongst RaspberryPI users. Long story short, you're doing everything right EXCEPT getting quality SD cards that can sustain the amount of R/W longer than the cheap cards.
Good to know!
Same with digital photographers. We've realized they will fail, and the cheaper they are the quicker that will happen. Look for ones with good read/write speeds also.
As soon as he said something about caching, I thought of how I recently learned that SSDs have a longevity issue because frequent reading/writing to the drive quickly wears them out.
Went with a p1s for hobby use because of your videos. Bruhh... its been so effortless and awesome. Thank you for the videos!
You already have the best solution to the SD card problem!
Thank you so very much for the videos, information and honest opinions. This only solidifies my purchases of the X1C and a P1S as I start on this hobby/journey. Very much looking forward to the upcoming course along with all other videos.
This is a great insight into long term viability of Bambu Printers. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this!
Your previous video on this topic was the reason I went with the Bambu P1S and I couldn't be happier. I went in knowing that there would be failures and issues I would have to troubleshoot but I have felt like there are so few that are not just me setting things up wrong or not knowing the material I am using. I did also run into the issue with the SD card even just after a few months use (I bought mine in October and have been running non stop). I really wish Bambu Lab had something in their firmware that would just throw an error notification in this state and stop the print. Part of my PEI sheet was ruined due to this failure because the nozzle dragged a circle around the printbed, so it has some potential to end badly for others. Thanks for bringing videos like this to people so they can make the right decision on what fits for them.
High endurance SD cards needed, it's likely a wear problem. Also, doublecheck you haven't enabled "restart/correct after step failure" option (or whatever it's called), restart after power failure options and any form of timelapse videos as all of these require continuously writing to the SD card to enable their function, drastically increasing number of write cycles and wearing them out quicker.
Yayy new video! I’m so happy to see these! I recently got my own bambu p1s combo and I’m so happy! Soon I’m also starting my own small business 😁
As one of the “Ender Bros” I’m glad we are both on to Bambu. Well done! I run only bambu now and have had some of those problems but mainly the extruder gear needing replaced. Otherwise they are phenomenal!
Try giving the textured PEI a scrub with a very rough kitchen sponge, restores Adhesion for me.
That video a year a go was the final push for me to buy a P1 as my first printer. It was a great pick and the hit print and forget reliability is second to non if you want to use a 3d printer as a tool and not as a hobby to work on.
Thabks for the up!
Me too. Now have 3 for my tiny farm.
this video came a video too late, already tired trying to fix my ender 3 max neo which no one supports, just bought p1s combo coming tomorrow and very excited, your review assured me, thank you very much, more info and tips is appreciated
Power Loss Recovery absolutely "Hammers" the sectors in the SD cards, I turned that off many MANY years ago and had NO failed SD cards since.
If you absolutely need it, find yourself a quality USB drive and make sure it has a controller chip on it. That controller chip is there to help it run faster and checks sector integrity like a SSD or Hard Drive would. Meaning it will retire sectors that are being hammered
If you have no other option other than SD cards, then sector maintenance can also be done with software using Check Disk in Windows for example. It will scan the drive and any sector that takes too long to read is removed from the file system. Meaning it will avoid writing to that sector.
Wow I’ll try that!
The Bambus look way cleaner too, especially the p1s’s
Note about the printer that is not working or only works for short prints i suggest factory resetting it, i assume it is somehow out of memory or corrupted memory(i also do this with ssd's on PCs if they are slow or unreliable.i format the ssd then reinstall the OS be sure to backup data if it is readable)
"Ain't No Body Got Time For That" - Perfect
The business nerd in me wants to know the financials of 100,000 hours of 3D printing. Big fan of the dewalt dust collection fix btw
I'm a professionnal photographer, and after seeing the brands of micro SD cards you use, I'm 99% convinced that is your issue : get Sandisk or Samsung cards as they are the best, or Lexar, Kingston or Patriot (not as good but okay).
also yes as another comment pointed out, SD cards used in surveillance cameras are a good idea
Freeze of death has always resumed for me. Sometimes an hour or more later, but the print resumes perfectly even when screen is dead. Also you need a Panda Touch. It will run 1m printers ( not sure why it has a limitation ) and save you tonnes of time.
Now, let’s not forget about the A1 mini and reg A1’s screens 12:16
Best video for buyers. Simple and well prepared. Thank you for sharing ❤
Just change your plates to bambu super tack. You'll never have problems with bed adhesion again. They will also save you money on power as the plate doesnt need be as hot.
Have you considered investing in the Bamboo Labs AMS for your printers? You can shoot another video on that topic, I think. Just an idea. Have fun, Travis! And thanks for sharing your experience!
Growing up, my Dad always bought a replacement Black and White TV, until he couldn't find one and had to buy a Color TV. The same thing happened to my son's insulin pump. Black and White screen until the newer model has a color screen. Basically BW screens become more expensive color screens. So manufacturers have to switch to color screens.
Some really interesting info here. With the advent of Prusa's Core One this is not as clear cut as it would have been before Core One but that scrap, failed print data showing the Bambu to be more consistent than the mk4..... Interesting. Makes me feel better about just recently having bought a P1S for sure.
There is no reason for modern micro-sd cards to go bad, except because of the huge timelapse that gets recorded🤔. You can fix most sdcards, by doing a low level format. Not sure why there is an issue with changing filaments, it is as simple as unload/load, just two clicks, followed by pulling out/pushing in(just keep track of temp, feel for filament movement). Not sure, if its due to use of AMS, which I don't. Issues with AMS can be a bit painful and can drive you crazy. Changing hotend and extruder is nothing but royal pain. PEI textured plate never wears out, if you cool your plate sufficiently(external air blower), apart from a coat of ipa, with a no-lint paper towel. There are times, a misplaced buildplate throwing subtle hms errors, but nothing major.❤👍
Any updates on when we can sign up for Print Farm Academy?
I'm actually shocked that you've had no carbon rods go bad. I just assumed that would be a higher wear item than it clearly is 👍
I was a bit surprised too!
My creality cr10s pro v2 goes wonky sometimes. I use a 32gb sandisk. The card gets corrupted when there's too many files on it. So I keep saved files to a small number.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Just for wonder, what is maximum hours what you have on one printer?
Half a year ago, I bought P1S as my first 3D printer. Partially also because of your previous video. Now I have 1300hrs printed with no issue caused by printer at all. I'm really happy about it.
I'd have to go look but the highest one is probably between 5000-6000 hours at this point
Interesting as always :)
@shopnation Great video!! Really appreciate you sharing your experience. Reassures me that Bambu P1S is the printer to get in the new year. As for the SD card issue, as others have mentioned read/write cache is probably just wearing them out. Though I thought I’d add trying InitDisk & Spinrite from GRC to see if the cards can be revived.
Have you done any testing or have any thoughts on using an A1 in your farm? I'm curious how it would hold up in comparison.
I have 3 running and they are good, but not quite as resilient as the P series
What is the bushing on the carbon rods? I built a Hypercube in 2017 with carbon fibre rods and printed PLA bearings. Greasing them with silicone gearbox oil made the bushings last 6 months. Just one hobbyist non-farm data point but it worked for me.
I've had Raspberry Pi boards kill SD cards. I now only buy the high reliability SD cards designed for massive number of cycles.
I have 3 P1Ps and they have been running strong for at least a year. My biggest complaint has always been that its too small. I regularly have to use my voron purely because of size constraints. Bambu, please make me a 400mm printer.
Did you ever thought about Panda Touch? Experience like the x1c and you can operate multiple machines with one unit
The SD card issue might be solved by using high cycle cards. Generally used for dash cams in the like they are designed for near continual read write cycles
Reupload?
The WiFi antenna is probably bad on the one that is broken.
I'm curious - if they are so reliant on the cloud (which the video alluded to early on) why use SD cards for anything other than cache? Surely there's a centralised cloud hub or something that would make sending files remotely the better way, especially if the X1 models already support it?
Great video, helpful insight as usual. As possible helpful idea for the microSD cards... they do sell high endurance versions. Will be up to you if the price difference is worth it.
I’ve had my P1S for just over a year now, and this weekend the microSD card died… The error it was throwing was a little vague in terms of the culprit, so I restarted a print twice before I gave up on it. At first I thought it was too big of a file, and that it was rewriting over itself, but after that second restart, I just decided to replace it. I ended up throwing a 256 GB card in it lol
Yea! You’re not dead!!!
As the owner of one of your prusha's, I thank you for your service by providing me one at $155!
On the corruption on the SD cards, I think you're onto something about the amount of read/writes before it becomes corrupted. Working in IT for so many years, I've seen this on USB drives, etc. Without an easy solution, I wonder if you can just push the files over the network from your computer vs using an SD card for each printer. I'm not knowledgeable in the 3D print space, but changing the delivery method, if feasible, might be worth trying. You've obviously already spoken with their support, so I assume if there were alternative methods, they would have suggested, just thinking out loud here.
1 year is just under 8,800 hours, not 100,000
He said combined print hours.
now multiply that by 12 for the number of printers he has
Gotta listen man lol
I think you got the same maintenance book as me, LOL. Seriously though, good engineering should obviate the need for frequent maintenance. How many cars need tuneups or transmission fluid changes anymore?
Just a question, what would you approximate the maintenance cost for a single printer to be? Over let’s say, the entire lifetime. And how long do you think a bambulab p1s lifetime is? Approximating of course. Any feedback/ experiences welcome!
Usually maintenance can be estimated to be 5-10% of the printer cost per year. So for the P1S you're looking at $30-$60 per year for maintenance (may be a little high). In my print farm environment I will be lucky to get 3 years out of a printer before it becomes counterproductive to maintain. For a "normal" use printer I would estimate ~5 years of useful life
@ damn thank you for you quick response haha.. just one more question, since I don’t know what you find “normal use”.. how much print hours do you think a p1s can run for in its lifetime?😁
I maintain my x1c and x1e when it notifies me to do so. I don't print as much as you do however.
Great video, thanks, regarding the SD card it is due to over-writting above its rated capcity. It is 100% the cache causing this, if the device uses the card for cache. The solution is simple, get an edurance Micro SD Card, they are used for these purposes or similar demanding applications like CCTV recordings.
I'd like to know how you specifically lube the z-screws. I personally use WD-40 branded PTFE dry lube. It's been working great.
What is the highest amount of hours you have on a printer, and did it need any repairs?
When is the course dropping?
I'm shooting for early 2025...but I've "shot" at other dates and missed too 😂
Genuinely appreciate that you made the edit here, you didn't have to, it shows character to receive feedback and act on it
What happened?
@@diogor420 he removed a rather questionable remark that can be construed to reference trans people.
@@diogor420 The original version had a trans joke that didn't add anything to the video, wasn't all that funny, and would likely have gotten him cancelled. Tbh, I shut off the video the first time when the joke hit (like 1.5 minutes in). I didn't say anything in the comments or anything, because I'm not that guy. I just quietly disappear. When I saw the video was re-upped I checked in just to see if that was the reason and I'm glad it was.
You kind of are that guy by bringing it back up. Respect that he deleted it.
I lost count, but was that 2 completely bricked printers, plus 1 that only prints when it wants to?
I wouldn't call any of them "bricked" just have 1 stubborn one that probably just needs a fresh (higher quailty) SD card
@@ShopNationIt did kinda sound like you had a few that had to go.
-You mentioned the one that's lost all connectivity, but sounds like you can still print?
-The oldest printers not printing - probably micro SD related, maybe
I think the newest update (from the past week) can allow for updating from the SD card? Maybe you can fix that first one 👍
I've un into one issue that I totally consider my fault, but which has pretty much deadlinned one of my printers.
I have 2 P1S's on in production, and 3 A1 Mini's, 1 in production. The P1S and one of the A1 Mini's that are not in production are still in box pending a re-arrangement of my printing space.
The A1 Mini that is non-operational is because I was tired one day, didn't notice that bed adhesion was an issue, and filled the hot end space with filament. Big Blob of PLA. (A1 Mini's pretty much are going to be reserved for PLA, so they are all getting cool beds as they are put back into production.)
The extruder full of PLA has left me wondering where I can get 'just that' (Effectively the extruder module to slide onto the gantry rail and link up. Nice that they are all USB connected.) Haven't had any luck finding this part. I've already damaged the front cover, which I think I can find a replacement for, it's the rest of the assembly. The PLA in it is blocking access to a number of screws that I would need to remove to disassemble, and the damage to the cover has discouraged me from using a heat gun to melt down the PLA to remove it.
Maybe if I pop the whole assembly into an oven set to 130 F tomorrow while my sister-in-law is away at work... Maybe. Or I could do that at my place up north, maybe. I know, get a toaster oven at the pawn shop... Really for this I need to get the PLA above it's glass temp, and keep the remainder of the extruder below it's edition of that. We'll see. (probably be a good idea to print off a cube each of PLA and PETG, and see if I can get the PLA to above glass, with the petg below, and hope that the rest of the extruder plastic has a higher glass temp than PETG... Hope.
Could you try the ankermake M5? Would be interesting to see how it handles your environment.
I really don't understand why the P1 models have the screen they do. Seems like a downgrade even compared to the A1 models. But I suppose most people are just using the app/software from their phone/computer.
As someone who just got the p1s, I didn’t know this was a concern that people have because I’m always sitting at my computer or watching from my phone. I’m surprised that this is a common concern, but after seeing a farm like this, it makes more sense to me now.
So what changed?
Thanks for your cander
If you don’t want your old prusa machines I could take them off your hand🤔
Bamboo is wins . Much is to work on
I am one ofthose newer users. Bought my X1C because I don't want a fuckin science experiment, I want a tool.
Amen!
Re upload?
Yep!
@ what changed?
@@Andrew_Gregg -1 trans joke
Ngl. The Prusa Core is a hard miss. The price point is just way too high to compete with the P1P/S
Agreed price is steep, but Prusa seems to be headed in the right direction
@ShopNation for sure. If it was around 650-700 I would actually genuinely consider it over my P1S. But as is I'm a hobbyist and not a print farm runner. The P1S is plenty. And I'll probably upgrade the gears in the future in the extruder for abrasives too.
@@ShopNation it would be if it actually had an active chamber heater, otherwise it makes no sense next to p1s
Why the SD cards? Why not just send it through the slicer? Is it cuz it's the customer's model, and you are technically uploading it to Bambu's servers?
I got my P1S a little over a week ago, and I LOVE that feature, and I could imagine it's even more helpful in a print farm, but is there a reason to be concerned? I don't know
9:35 I'm guessing neither the P1P nor P1S has spaghetti detection? I know the X1C does.
Correct!
hey bro if you dont want your designs to get stolen by chinese farms just put tiananmen square 1989 in the item descriptions lol
PRUSA = Blackberry
Sounds like a good TH-cam video idea 🤔😎
@@ShopNation 😂😂 Yeah, I watched that one
SD-Cards: get better cards. SanDisk Extreme are made from NAND Chips instead of eMMC.
The Cards shipped with the printer is total garbage.
have you ever had the dreaded layer shift when switching colors before? Currently in talks w BL to remedy..
Rarely, usually no problem there
Sd cards are just inherently unreliable. Lowest endurance nand on the market. Even the best ones have a tiny fraction of the endurance of a consumer SSD which themselves have a fraction of the industrial server stuff.
It doesn't really relate to bambu asside from the fact they cache and do stuff for power loss recovery. It would be much worse if you saved Timelapse.
Your SD card issue could be caused by static electricity. To avoid this, avoid touching the contact with your fingers. Alternatively, you could try formatting the SD card after numerous hours of use, as it could also be due to numerous read and writes.
It's not that
I think the carbon rods with metal rod/bearings was a bad design choice, but great when it comes to marketing. The dust from the carbon rods builds up on the metal rods which can cause wear if you dont maintain them well, and the oil from the metal rods can seep into the carbon rods if you arent careful. I feel it should either be both carbon rods/bushings or both metal rods/bearings since they dont play nice with each other. I oiled my metal rods a few times and noticed the oil almost seeps throughout the glass fiber bearing mounts and tries to make its way on to the carbon rods even after using rubbing alcohol and wiping it all down several times.
Wait, you oiled what!?
Nice insight and good, informative video. Still not sold on Bambu.
Why not?
I purchased your DeWalt miter saw dust collection attachement. BUYER BEWARE!!!! A small cut off hit the plasttic attachment and it shattered everywhere, inlcuding all over my face! The plastic used in this product is not safe! Please redesign and try and get a recall before someone ge
he made a video on this, most likely it was user error. you have to clear the cutoffs after every cut or else you risk them flying into the dust attachment. how many cutoffs did you leave on the saw before it happened?
Hey Rick, I'm sorry to hear about your experience. Have you reached out to us on the website? We are here to help
Yep, petg shatters like glass on high speed impact, he should use abs, asa, pc or pc-abs. Maybe even pctg
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