As a rajasthani i never heard of this shit lol must be common in villages but not in citiessz It is more like haryana as the village lies close to haryana lol
As a rajasthani i never heard of this shit lol must be common in villages but not in citiessz It is more like haryana as the village lies close to haryana lol
@United Provinces of Planet Earth thats not the solution. This problem can be change with time (maybe like technology and stuff) and education regarding "myths and cultures" in our society and explanation to youth about "why and what is the need for change". Tv channels can showcast this as their main topic instead of showing how to fight for temples over masjid or showing hindu as the dominant culture. Moreover, I m hindu too but i dont like what is going around here and i feel depressed
A child wants to live with their mom too. What about mom's and grandma's story? And same goes to girls they should also listen to their grandpas story. Both are important
@@youtubehodol3989 lmao wtf? If traditions make life toxic for people, they need to go away! Sati was a tradition too, pretty sure you wanna keep burning us women in the name of "traditions" then lol.
i still remember when i used to go to my village my relatives including women would make fun of me because i used to live inside the home and not in the baithak i did not really understood what was wrong with them , i am really thankful that my mother kept me away from that toxic environment and raised me and my sister without any discrimination
early years village's lack security and close proximity to forest which invites thieves, flowers pickers, jackels, tigers, snakes that why males of family used to sleep outside for protection, one of main reason for segregation but time changed and this thing become gender discrimination.
Agreed I think mostly there is society pressure on men making them to have $ex before marriage or even having with any prostitute just to experience it
Exactly everyone should work together with each other, who in the hell wants to be separated from people just because of ridiculous and sad things, if I was an man separated from women and then go out in see an woman, I would definitely treat them different because I never would really grow up with them, but I did I would be more kind and treat them like queens. When you're separated form things and then see them u don't really know how to act or what to do so it will be uncomfortable.
And then these men go to Delhi and can't handle their fragile male ego when they see women functioning like normal human beings. They commit crime against women and then have the audacity to blame the victim. Now I know why.
Exactly. The whole concept of "modesty" is a stupid one. These young men are brought up with the belief that women are objects, so when they come to cities they think it's their right to do with women as they please, hence rapists are born.
Not entirely. While this kind of practice is definitely not good for either sex or any gender, the idea that all practices from the past are systemically wrong is just stupid.
@@Oblivisci........ It is said that "peer pressure from the dead", nothing is in the sentence about it being good or bad. Value of every practice are to be continuously examined through all of the perspectives in the world, and that includes female as half of the population, male and queer people as the other half.
@@Oblivisci........ tbh the system for marriage is just too much for people in india thats why my friends in india are single because of it and never wanted to have babies
@@aAverageFan I died laughing at your comment 💀 😂 Here in Australia, disgusting news reporters were saying the Exact qoute to their male viewers. Female reporter - can you please tell your friends to stop raping? Male reporter - Hmmm yes I agree. I almost vomited hearing that 😐
@@aAverageFan theifs or men aren't born evil, they should just be raised right In a good environment (which is yeah,not possible, at least in this video)
@@aAverageFan I don't see this comment as stop protecting women and start raising men right, but if you're going to protect women you need to also raise men correctly to truly protect women
Indeed. Teach your children that s3x is for procreation alone and not for pleasure. Teach them that pleasure is a by-product of s3x. Teach them self-control. Teach them to be like a saint and never indulge in any selfish pleasures. Teach them that all pleasures lead to deep pain and suffering without any exception. Teach them spirituality. Teach them to be "Creators" and not to be "Producers" of children like all other humans and animals on this planet. That's the only way they can attain "Moksha" which is liberation of life energy from the body with least to no pain and suffering at the time of death. Earth is dying due to LUST and Greed of almost 8 Billion humans. Overpopulation is causing tears in the eyes of innocent animals and birds that go extinct and they do not even know that humans are the reason for their disappearance... Look at the amount of Karma humans have accumulated. I feel very sad to see there is no way to fix this world. There is no purity in mind, body and soul. There is no creativity. There is no respect for other life. More people eating meat and non-vegan diet causing more karma in the system. Spiritual education is the only way children of the future can truly and progressively evolve their DNA. Technology is only for pleasure and comfort of mankind. Core of spirituality is altruism. This means that every child is everyone's child. Every human has responsibility on the entire planet rather than themselves, their spouse, their child/ren their immediate family, relatives, neighbourhood, community, country. Spiritual education will ensure this level of thinking. Ancient monks, saints and yogis created Yoga and Meditation to evolve perfect humans with supernatural abilities. But modern humans squandered their potential through effortless pleasures and comforts. We relied on machines and now we can't live without them. More further we go in this "Kali Yuga", more harder it will get for the soul to detach from the material things as well as material bodies of other beings. I still have a ray of hope that the future will be progressive as envisioned by THE Creators of this universe. The reason humanity cannot see Them is because of their impure actions in every thought, word and deed across mind, body and soul. Only future will reveal the true path of humanity.
The relationship between mother and her child is considered the purest and most beautiful relationship. Uprooting a child from its root affects mentally a lot and segregating just on the basis of gender is most illogical thing.
In gurukul time. Boys leave their house and family and goes to gurukul. But it actually happens after certain when kid become enough matured to learn something.
From the age of 8-10 or depending on whenever the child matures, then no its not "uprooting a child from its roots" as their mother is not necessary anymore. They can continue with their dad from thereon and other family members, and it's not like they never see their mom, they're just not in the same regular living quarters.
As a rajasthani i never heard of this shit lol must be common in villages but not in citiessz It is more like haryana as the village lies close to haryana lol
A teenage boy needs his mother's warmth and closeness more than ever...a mother's presence in a boy's life greatly shapes his emotional intelligence too..we must not deprive them of this bond....
@@GODolution l fully disagree! For me my mother is my entire world! This is cruel for both mother & son as this completely deprieve empathy shared between mother & son
@@GODolutionwhat an idiot! A teenager still needs a mother's comfort and love. Until he's 18, he still needs both his parents to guide him. So go spread your stupid logic elsewhere.
@@GODolution children will always need their parents in different ways. not only when you are still a kid but also, you still need them during your adulthood for mostly emotional support.
The woman said a very good line If the woman is the wife of landowner then you're segregated if the woman is of a worker there's no segregation It's about rich and poor
This isn't improving anything, if anything this makes things worse. Why not just teach boys to treat women like people instead and stop blaming women for men's actions?
@@terintiaflavius3349 I urge you to watch this video...not only u but all people should watch... there is lot of things which international media hide from u but international media won't show u this look what happening in western countries ...vice news won't show u this th-cam.com/video/3dXu9AVWrSg/w-d-xo.html
Fun facts: 99% of Indians dont know about this practice but all of us have experienced some kind of alienation (same shit different day) it reminds me of my school where boys and girls were forbidden to interact with each other 😂😂😂😂😂 if we did then there would be rumours flying around about dating
This problem is not limited to rural India… I am saying from personal experience In my school (day boarding school) which is so called modern with fees of 2.5 lakh yearly Our director (80 year old man) made a rule that girls will not talk to boys at all and he used to say this in assembly every 2nd or 3rd time…. Even evening games time of girls and boys was actually different When there was game time of girls boys were not allowed to go out of their hostels and vice versa I
In India you will get the most regressive mindset as well as the most open minded people 😂😂. I have been to two schools and never faced such a problem. I am in class 12 and still if I like I sit with my male friend and teachers have no problem 👍👍
its not regressive its protective. this rule also existed in my college and many students opposed it but before this there were also multiple cases of pregnent female students living in hostel. now if the girls father comes and asks the college authorities that 'how did my daughter get pregnant?' , what should be the response of the college authorities? if you can answer this question, then you decide if these rules are important or not.
@@AbhishekSharma-rp3vx Kerala a southern State is still contributing 30 percent of cases with such a small population North east isn't suffering from Corona because anyone rearly goes there as compared to ncr, Gujarat, Mumbai, Haryana it's a secluded place
My best friend is in India, we met through phone app game and ended up exchanging hand written letters through the years. She is more like my little sister and I consider her as my family. We tell each other's cultures and traditions to educate each other and to better understand our different lives and respect it no matter how shocking some are.
early years village's lack security and close proximity to forest which invites thieves, flowers pickers, jackels, tigers, snakes that why males of family used to sleep outside for protection, one of main reason for segregation but time changed and this thing become gender discrimination.
@Alexandra Daddario Fanboy my father is a polite and shy man, he is also my friend and makes a clown of himself so i can laugh when i cry , and about myself ive been graped a lot by other men without my consent, if your father is a shitty dude dont asume that all the fathers are as shit as yours is, lady.
this practice start the alienation of women and girls in general which raises the ideology that the forbidden fruit is always sweeter, making it rather more prone for the women to be abused
As an Indian I noticed this when I was in Rajasthan. I found it very shocking but no one could explain it to me. Thank you for making this documentary. Amazing how we can have just incredibly different experiences and have the same roots. From what I understand these communities have the most gender based violence and problems with rape and murder.
Depends on the strategy and education level. Historically, barbarians provoke and create borders. Nevertheless most people forget that our DNA is mostly Asian; bloodline clans have never remained constant. Hence the continent of Asia had Hindus in many territories.
@@MrSdsok We do you think joint family units are about? Keeping it in the family more like. What kind of prejudices do isolated joint families have? Is their mindset fixed on a local imaginary border?
@@atulnayak5715 culture of a state differs significantly from other, like culture of West Bengal is very different from bihar and the rest of the North. As someone from rural West Bengal, joint families in the rural regions are like group of smaller families living close to each other. They have different huts with even different bath rooms and kitchens. Joint families can be huge to the point that a few families can compose a village. Both boys and girls do get married of early though, however there are no bifurcation brothers, sisters, along with their mother and father live in the same hut.
In 21 years of my existence in northern India I've never of this practice. Why would anyone go to foreign lands when u can experience culture shock in your own country!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bruh, true imagine living in a place for years and you're like wait i never heard about this at all, man you learn new shit about your country/state everyday
This is common in Pakistan too, though not as an intent to separate male from female members of family but to show manly hood of male as it's said man should not stay at home for long rather stay out or else they are called "Ghar ghusla" that means who is afraid of world and takes shelter at home. Introverts like me, who like to stay at home and away from alot of people are called weird and 'darpook' (fearful) even by their own family.
As someone who came from a tribe, i also used to live with rules that are unnecessary, random, or even dangerous. After i got proper education, I realize that not everything cultural or done by ancestors is good. Ancestors are human too, no man is perfect.
so called most educated community also dont want to change (accept) their ansistor mistake ..and spread their bullshit system even in Forign countries 😂
That is why Indian students are good at solving math and writing essays but when comes to debate or demonstration, 90% won't be able to speak properly.
I am Bengali and here it means Meeting, I always saw baithak in Bengali television where all men and women have fun, play games ,and eat together during Durga pooja time. It's really fun to watch. So for me baithak is a very different thing It's more like a picnic to me but in a room 😂😂😂
@Mo Khalid anything can be done in an evil way but sex between two consenting adults, in any fashion, is never evil, at all. Also, evil doesn't exist. There are just people with brains wired to do horrible things as a result of genetics, environment, and circumstances. Free will does not exist.
I am also from Rajasthan, India even I didn't have any knowledge of such orthodox tradition. Childhood is a tender period in which mother's love and grandmothers wisdom and stories are required .
I am Indian and from North India. We also had "baithak" until my grandpa passed away. My grandpa was the only one slept in that or eat in that. We all had our own rooms to sleep in. I am actually shocked right now if all this is true.
"If she doesn'twant to wear a veil, we will support her" "If it's suffocating (to wear a veil), then don't do it" "But if the in-laws asked you to do it (to wear a veil), then do it" "Her family is respected if she respects her in-laws" Somehow it's heartbreaking to hear that a woman's in-laws seem to have more power than her own family, and having power over her own family
@@01Crown again blaming muslims for something that is caused because of illiteracy and stupid customs created by humans and has nothing to do with Islam
6:55 "If there is no break in the car, it's bound to get into an accident. This tradition is the break mechanism for men." It sounds to me more like removing the whole engine from the car to prevent any type of accident to occur....
With different perspective in reality breaks helps car to move faster If there was a no brake in car not anyone can drive car faster.because of insecurity But if break is always on the car will not move
@@InsightGrid620 I see where you are coming from and in a way you are right. Breaks help to go faster :) So in this case the question remains does it actually go faster due to this practice. Of course as a western outsider I don't think so, but that is also very much a cultural thing
Thank you Vice for this brilliant reporting, I am from Haryana itself....not very far from Mewat. Only in summer vacations(usually for 30 days) we used to go to our Grandmother house where we have this kind of 'Bethak' Concept like exactly shown in the video. From the childhood, I am seeing that the old gather around that area in the evening, the elderly do the hookah gathering like always and the other adults indulge in playing cards and all other fun stuff. But in our village, we don't have this segregation concept between a boy and a girl. I am too stunned as well, knowing about many villages in southern Haryana are following this discrimination concept in the name of Tradition. I think a good Government School may have the power to demolish this tradition within one generation. It is possible if the government starts spending at least 25% of their total budget in the Education Sector.
A modern marriage based relationship and sex education is normal. Adolescent boys and girls develop emotionally and sometimes hyperactively. It is the lack of sports facilities and keep fit that increases undesired urges in both genders when young.
@@thatipuditeja9367 Why are you replying with this video on comments? Accept the wrong as it is. Stop justifying the wrong with ‘look this happens in other countries too’ card. It wont change anything.
You got the point that many people didn't get. It's just not Education, but also mindset for which our upbringing is responsible along with moral values.
International news channels keep showing the worst out of India, making it seem like ALL indians live like this while only 5 percent are as regressive as they portray to foreigners. They want people to have a very bad image of India.
@@Mayfan44 they got something real issue with us.Even they made funny cartoon of india when we Went to Mars mission.This proves how jeaouls they are.They followed leftists ideology and they are scared that India may overtake us in future.
@Shreya Sharma Delhi is surrounded by these states and when these people come here to work they get cultural shocks about women walking freely and rape them.
As a rajasthani i never heard of this shit lol must be common in villages but not in citiessz It is more like haryana as the village lies close to haryana lol
I am from India[ Rajasthan] and I had never heard about this. I am in shock right now that such type of things are still happening. I don't know when not only India the whole world will stop discrimination on the basis of sexuality , religion ,color and race we all are human beings.
"This tradition is the break mechanism for men." - Oh humanity, the lengths to which men have gone to control the live's of women, their bodies and their minds. Family honor is only found between a young girl's legs.
I actually know someone whose mother separated him from women/girls for the 1st 15 years of his life. And even later in life he went to an extremely male dominated field: Mathematics. And studying in a male dominated college where no one was a female in his batch. Surprisingly, my sister got a chance and got in the college getting AIR:2. He was chosen to be her mentor in college. And that was extremely difficult for him. But now, our family and him became extremely close. And currently, he is in America. Its surprising how we grew up in two different conditions, me and my sister in a female dominated home while him in a male dominated one. And yet we managed to be close.
@@isabella_potterweasley8268 Hm, I think I understand a bit better, though I can't help but wonder how he felt exactly. Was he just uncomfortable or did he feel like he was doing something wrong? You don't have to answer that of course, in fact thank you for answering my previous question, and for sharing this in general. Cheers
Bad for him , f3males bring chaos and pain in men's life . And good thing is he in America . I'm also American Indian and Ik how terrible Feminism is there , now men over there especially the younger generation are rising and are about the totally dismantle gynocenterism
I am an Indian and I traveled so much in village areas like very remote areas (because of my work) in rajasthan, haryana, himachal, bihar, Sikkim, orisa, and some of South Indian region but never witness this culture ever, it's really hard to believe like its a shock to me also.
Being a South Indian and never knew these things still exist in our country. 😱 In my opinion India has a long journey ahead to catch up with rest of the world
@@vip129870 well, even japan and Korea have gender discrimination We should stop blaming everything on Muslims (Even though their leaders were awful, the people aren't) And no one should force a woman to wear hijab, it's her choice...you have no right to force her
@@ramumanickam1643 I'm from a muslim country and we NEVER HAD THIS, NEVER. No matter how segregated it was, a brother, uncle, father, grand-father, step-father, son-in-law were never segregated within the same house. The video shows all faiths practicing it, so it's proper to the CULTURE OF THAT AREA. If you just shove off the issue under "yeah it's the muzzies" logic, you won't solve the issue for them.
@J N nothing positive comes out of this. Even though I live in a major city myself, there's this rural area close to my locality. So, at some point, having to interact with some people from that area is inevitable. Back when I was in school, I used to go this tuition class where it was common for a few kids from this rural area to come as well. Every word that used to come out of their mouths was pure filth, they didn't have any respect for any female, the only reason they used to respect the elders in their family was because they were their providers. They had no regards for human lives either. Crime rates in rural India are staggering, so they used to tell us city kids a few stories of actual crimes they witnessed themselves and for them, watching someone taking somebody else's life was a completely normal phenomena, in their words, the victims "asked for it" and the list of shit they used to preach goes on and on. Whom do they learn to become humans like this from? The men of their society, who cut them off from the females who have some sense and empathy. And these were early teens I'm talking about, imagine what kind of adults they'd have become now.
@J N hard to judge, how? If they've presented their thought process through their speech and show no remorse or the need to assess themselves if they're on the right path then what else is to be interpreted if not that they are raised badly by bad people in a bad environment? Are you on the same page? Are you down the lines of sympathising with them and saying maybe they're not that bad?
I have seen baithak system in my Grandma's Village, but it was never so strict. Like men can go in / out of house, sleep in house as normal etc. It was basically a men-only place to hangout.
I'm from West Bengal and baithak, as we call it 'boithok' means a totally different thing...it is not permanent but temporary. It's when all the people are called in for a serious discussion about something between a family or two families, maybe even more idk...but females are also allowed to join if they want....but there are some exceptions to that, especially if u go to a rural area...but baithak is held in someone's house not in a separate space
Baithak means living room in Bengali. There is no concept of separation of women and men or any kind of shit like that. It all went away after Raja Ram Mohan Roy and Brahmo Samaj.
Dude u said "women are allowed to join" Do u get how messed up it sounds. I lived in West Bengal as well as Delhi, and lie me tell u women ate definitely more empowered with basic rights in West Bengal that in Delhi. Also there is no separation between men and women there. Yes I have heard about some kind of oppression in the rural areas but that doesn't go this far. And
@@nyxx_andra3187 Both of my maternal and paternal families are in villages in WB. (Paternal ones are even more poorer). And still there is nothing like men and woman. They all support both of my brothers and sisters to study and make a career. Both my grandparents too. No taunts or anything. Both men and women work on the fields and also do household chores by their time. While in the city I was told about the sexism my friends have to face, I couldn't relate to it. And I absolutely agree that women in WB are more empowered than in Delhi.
@@triple7536 I have visited some places in the rural India where I have seen a kind of oppression. I won't name the place put the NGO I was volunteering in stopped a total of 6/7 forced marriage in just a week. Most of these villages are near the India -Bangladesh border and most of the people are not indian , they crossed over from Bangladesh. But it happens.
Not gonna lie, this exists in India but most of the times it is not as hard and fast. It exists in my family too but I realised it just now. It is very subtle like very chill.
@@andreidieor5387 not always. Baithak is supposed to be like a man cave where you can hangout. Im sure this exist in similar forms around the world. We just don't realise it.
@Rohan Dick did you see the whole video. Nasim (a muslim) is telling the story of his family. He specifically says about the practice is prevalent in both Muslim and non muslim family. Mewat is Muslim majority. So don't blames Hindus ?
Historically, barbarians provoke and create borders. Today we exploit others weaknesses. We all bleed the same colour at the time of major conflict. Nevertheless most people forget that our DNA is mostly Asian; bloodline clans have never remained constant. Hence the continent of Asia had Hindus in many territories.
Visited India on vacation. The difference between the North and south was immense. The North should change the way they treat their women. Learn from the south.
I was also raised in a similar culture. I can assure this is really an exaggeration. The male from other homes go in baithak but male of the house freely go to home. Even friends and relatives can easily go to home. Baithak is mostly for stranger and even this system is changing very fast.
I go to my village(in Bihar) each year and the house structure is similar (with a baithak). But rarely does anyone follow these traditions anymore in my village. I hang out with my male cousins in my village. Nobody really questions us. My aunts work as teachers in local schools. There are well built washrooms at my home. All of this makes me feel really good about my village.
As an outsider (Irish) I can see how this practise was initially thought of as a "manly" learning experience for young boys; teaching them etiquette and how to behave with respect etc. Unfortunately it also has its negative side. Human beings are so flawed, we cannot live the idyll.... even though it is something many strive towards. Also, throughout history, our communities "swing the pendulum" between extreme harshness and the shedding of all rules of conduct. Why can we never seem to settle on middle ground? We are a mystery.
Exactly. These instilled martial values and in a way gave role models.Earlier every village used to be armed and self -reliant. This also strengthens community bond. In my village, we don't have this baithak concept but there is community place like any other where young people will play and older ones would spend their time with their friends. Gradually, we also learned many things from our elders. Newer generation that is more cutt off from others often get hooked onto drugs. In my experience, quiet kids not mingling much with other kids and elders often are into drugs or online gaming etc.
Well I'm gonna make you make you surprised that in the state of meghalaya after marriage a husband have to come and live in the wife house , we took our surname from the mother and all the property is inherited to the youngest daughter .
The whole 'manglik' thing and marrying a dog/tree/other things I have no clue about is equally strange. I don't know if it's still popular now though, and if it's restricted to particular states.
I belong to one of the village of Haryana and in my village Baithak means a room for guests, a room inside my home only,which is more clean, with sitting arrangements, I mean a room which is ready to receive guests. We receive our guest in that room no matter male or female, where we serve them snacks. And we sit and eat together there and talk, chit chat.
Coming from U.P we used to have a baithak in our houses. Taking to the convenience it was comfortable but as I and my brothers grew up in a city the closeness to our mother and me mattered the most or say helped in forming the mental foundation of the boy's in our house. My brothers understand the reality of what a girl endures and lives and is as human as them. And I also believe the touch of women is very important in a boy's life. When you segregate both in their own houses it makes them secluded.
Totally natural in what teenagers go through. Adolescent boys and girls develop emotionally and sometimes hyperactively. It is the lack of sports facilities and keep fit that increases undesired urges in both genders when young.
You can't ignore one and focus on other. I came from Kerala where everyone alot of people strive for equality. We also give nationalism and education a priority over anuthing
@@D.2601 no i didn't mean to say that, i was putting the light on the fact that we can't ignore the rural section of the society which shows the real and raw perspective of Indian citizen's life.
It's amazing how these traditions often start with one person/family doing something. Then it becomes a long-lasting tradition deeply embedded into the subculture that people are afraid to stop doing.
Because back in olden times, there was no way of knowing for a man whether its his child in the woman's womb or some other man's child. And unfortunately as a consequence of this, such gender segregation started to develop
this only prevails in the underprivileged and uneducated villages. in modern cities and even in modern villages, these kinds of things do not happen...
@meghanath bro Towns also exist 🤣🤣🤣🤣and within 5 years the number of middle class people will be more in India. 👍👍Also Town people also dont have such traditions or culture, much more educated 👍👍👍👍I am a town girl ❤️from WB
I've heard my mother tell me that a brother and sister would not allowed to be st home on their own back in the day. Once I was staying at my uncle's. I was 19 and got on well with my cousin brother. Our bedrooms were next to each other. My uncle came over and reassigned me to a room downstairs. I understood why he was doing that but was horrified that he would think something would happen with my cousin. I kind of get that without access to the opposite sex, things happen within the family.
They say kids learn from elders about good things but the village is still un developed. Seems like the elders are not educated and knowledgeable themselves and are stopping the next generation as well. World is reaching mars and here we have people who can't reach their own house !!!!!!
This is making him just a man, and depriving him from being a brother and son, he doesn't see women living normally and hence no empathy for them, I am shocked how this shapes their mentality.
Now I understand why my nanaji never came inside the house and why my aunts wanted me to serve the food outside to them as being a little girl I could still go out without being judged. It wasn't this extreme but I can relate to the spirit. I am from Madhya Pradesh.
I accept that this might be a part of life in some parts of India, but it is wrong to say that it is the kind of culture which majority of India follows ....the title is absolutely misleading and it defames the rest of the country.....the actions of a few people should be used to villify the rest of us .....this is nothing but click bait to popularise your video......
There is so much restriction in the Indian society for girls and boys,that for a lot of us the first interactions we have with the opposite gender is after the arranged marriage. Only in metros,this restriction is not there,but small cities and villages, this is everyday reality.
I love that atleast this video started with " in north india, in SOME villages..." Instead of pretending that this is just " every indian household " and "all of india is exactly like this" which is something most videos tend to do.
So they r scared that those guys who grew up in their bhaithak might do something with their women,proves what kind of education they provide in their bhaithak,they don't teach those men in their baithak to have self control that's why and they know it very well
For us in the cities, baithaks are just drawing rooms where you entertain guests and visitors. Only special or close guests are welcomed inside the main house.
ive seen several. it like a parlour room in those families now, but the generation before used them. it was used only once in a while when I was in India. several homes that were more affluent that is a couple inherited them. its really cool to know what they were for besides, "not used anymore, older generation" In that community, a person 10 years older than I was married at age 12 to a 22 year old. they all have government issued cards that say "backwards class" There was still a whole lot of gender separation though... so many freakin rules all the time everywhere. One of my friends were so terrified of being burned alive by dishonoring her family in such a way. the women even younger than I dont even question this system because they havent experienced the freedom in the first place. But when one has had some freedom, its super hard to go back
Not to this extent but I have seen something similar in my village. I was myself taught in an all girls school, even now I'm not completely comfortable around guys after graduating from my college. Fun fact is the same family who told me to stay away from guys are looking for guys for me to get married 😏. It's funny how they expect us to learn something new while they raised us to become something else, when they are themselves not ready to unlearn those old practices
India is that country where u can be an indian and still experience culture shocks
Holy shit so true lived all my life but not never heard about this
Same from gujarat
im from wb (but i lived in jaisalmer (a big city of Rajasthan ) for 3 years) ,i had no clue about this
this title they added for views, what a nasty way to get views on video. unsub this shit news.
@@anandisrocking007 same here,especially if you live in a mega city
I am Indian but this is culture shock to me. Our country is in serious need of a culture and mindset reset.
Won't happen, only technology or industries will help
As a rajasthani i never heard of this shit lol must be common in villages but not in citiessz
It is more like haryana as the village lies close to haryana lol
As a rajasthani i never heard of this shit lol must be common in villages but not in citiessz
It is more like haryana as the village lies close to haryana lol
@United Provinces of Planet Earth thats not the solution. This problem can be change with time (maybe like technology and stuff) and education regarding "myths and cultures" in our society and explanation to youth about "why and what is the need for change". Tv channels can showcast this as their main topic instead of showing how to fight for temples over masjid or showing hindu as the dominant culture. Moreover, I m hindu too but i dont like what is going around here and i feel depressed
SHUT UP
A child wants to live with their mom too. What about mom's and grandma's story? And same goes to girls they should also listen to their grandpas story. Both are important
Thats not your business then Western minded shiet.
@@youtubehodol3989 Oh look, here come the mindless traditionalists.
@@youtubehodol3989 Give me one reason that this kind of shit is going in India..?. Fucking western culture
@@youtubehodol3989 lmao wtf? If traditions make life toxic for people, they need to go away! Sati was a tradition too, pretty sure you wanna keep burning us women in the name of "traditions" then lol.
@@mrinalkiran7013 iam not a damnn hindu then
i still remember when i used to go to my village my relatives including women would make fun of me because i used to live inside the home and not in the baithak i did not really understood what was wrong with them , i am really thankful that my mother kept me away from that toxic environment and raised me and my sister without any discrimination
Are you from the same village ? My relatives live in Rajasthan but, I never heard it before
@@prajwalsharma4621This happens in the districts of Rajasthan whose border is with Haryana and Uttar Pradesh.
Dholpur, karauli
Your mother is a lowkey hero
Thanks am sorry you went through that.
early years village's lack security and close proximity to forest which invites thieves, flowers pickers, jackels, tigers, snakes that why males of family used to sleep outside for protection, one of main reason for segregation but time changed and this thing become gender discrimination.
Can we not treat men like they are animals and women like objects
Totally agreed
Agreed I think mostly there is society pressure on men making them to have $ex before marriage or even having with any prostitute just to experience it
@@stutikhanna987 then they turn around and shame prostitution, 🤦🏿♀️
@@run4508 Shaming prostitution I think they have already make all the girls prostitute just leaving there mother and sister
Exactly everyone should work together with each other, who in the hell wants to be separated from people just because of ridiculous and sad things, if I was an man separated from women and then go out in see an woman, I would definitely treat them different because I never would really grow up with them, but I did I would be more kind and treat them like queens.
When you're separated form things and then see them u don't really know how to act or what to do so it will be uncomfortable.
And then these men go to Delhi and can't handle their fragile male ego when they see women functioning like normal human beings. They commit crime against women and then have the audacity to blame the victim. Now I know why.
Very true!!
You got it right....They can't imagine them exercising their basic human rights and think it is a violation of nature....smh😩😔
Exactly. The whole concept of "modesty" is a stupid one. These young men are brought up with the belief that women are objects, so when they come to cities they think it's their right to do with women as they please, hence rapists are born.
@Indibox I think gender discrimination existed before the mughals too
@@shubhamrathi5531 yeaa but little
traditions are peer pressure from the dead
Not entirely. While this kind of practice is definitely not good for either sex or any gender, the idea that all practices from the past are systemically wrong is just stupid.
Most Jeep you healthy and are suppose to promote motivation
@@Oblivisci........ It is said that "peer pressure from the dead", nothing is in the sentence about it being good or bad. Value of every practice are to be continuously examined through all of the perspectives in the world, and that includes female as half of the population, male and queer people as the other half.
@@Oblivisci........ tbh the system for marriage is just too much for people in india thats why my friends in india are single because of it and never wanted to have babies
@Sam it’s not a tradition it’s kind of a science for mental and physical well-being
"Stop Protecting Women, Protect Men from becoming evil"
Hits hard
"Stop locking your house to avoid theft, Teach theives not to steal"
@@aAverageFan on point lmao😂
@@aAverageFan I died laughing at your comment 💀 😂
Here in Australia, disgusting news reporters were saying the Exact qoute to their male viewers.
Female reporter - can you please tell your friends to stop raping?
Male reporter - Hmmm yes I agree.
I almost vomited hearing that 😐
@@aAverageFan theifs or men aren't born evil, they should just be raised right In a good environment (which is yeah,not possible, at least in this video)
@@aAverageFan I don't see this comment as stop protecting women and start raising men right, but if you're going to protect women you need to also raise men correctly to truly protect women
Teach your children to look at humans as an individual first not a sexual entity.
💯
Exactly this is where things go wrong ...
What can they teach children when they themselves think that way?
These kinda people should just not have kids.
THISSSS
Indeed. Teach your children that s3x is for procreation alone and not for pleasure. Teach them that pleasure is a by-product of s3x. Teach them self-control. Teach them to be like a saint and never indulge in any selfish pleasures. Teach them that all pleasures lead to deep pain and suffering without any exception. Teach them spirituality. Teach them to be "Creators" and not to be "Producers" of children like all other humans and animals on this planet. That's the only way they can attain "Moksha" which is liberation of life energy from the body with least to no pain and suffering at the time of death. Earth is dying due to LUST and Greed of almost 8 Billion humans. Overpopulation is causing tears in the eyes of innocent animals and birds that go extinct and they do not even know that humans are the reason for their disappearance... Look at the amount of Karma humans have accumulated. I feel very sad to see there is no way to fix this world. There is no purity in mind, body and soul. There is no creativity. There is no respect for other life. More people eating meat and non-vegan diet causing more karma in the system.
Spiritual education is the only way children of the future can truly and progressively evolve their DNA. Technology is only for pleasure and comfort of mankind. Core of spirituality is altruism. This means that every child is everyone's child. Every human has responsibility on the entire planet rather than themselves, their spouse, their child/ren their immediate family, relatives, neighbourhood, community, country. Spiritual education will ensure this level of thinking. Ancient monks, saints and yogis created Yoga and Meditation to evolve perfect humans with supernatural abilities. But modern humans squandered their potential through effortless pleasures and comforts. We relied on machines and now we can't live without them. More further we go in this "Kali Yuga", more harder it will get for the soul to detach from the material things as well as material bodies of other beings. I still have a ray of hope that the future will be progressive as envisioned by THE Creators of this universe. The reason humanity cannot see Them is because of their impure actions in every thought, word and deed across mind, body and soul. Only future will reveal the true path of humanity.
The relationship between mother and her child is considered the purest and most beautiful relationship. Uprooting a child from its root affects mentally a lot and segregating just on the basis of gender is most illogical thing.
In gurukul time. Boys leave their house and family and goes to gurukul. But it actually happens after certain when kid become enough matured to learn something.
@@ASHISHSHARMA-cg4nc it wasn't the case everywhere
Every place was different
No
From the age of 8-10 or depending on whenever the child matures, then no its not "uprooting a child from its roots" as their mother is not necessary anymore. They can continue with their dad from thereon and other family members, and it's not like they never see their mom, they're just not in the same regular living quarters.
@@blue.orangeade Yeah
I feel like I am stranger to my own country and countrymen 🤦♂️
Exactly 🙄
You are. We all are
1.2 billion people don't form a monoculture, no matter what an old bearded prick would have you believe
@@SachinTube_ i see what you did there
Same
As a rajasthani i never heard of this shit lol must be common in villages but not in citiessz
It is more like haryana as the village lies close to haryana lol
A teenage boy needs his mother's warmth and closeness more than ever...a mother's presence in a boy's life greatly shapes his emotional intelligence too..we must not deprive them of this bond....
No! He needs mother BEFORE teen years. After teen years he needs to be with other males.
@@GODolution l fully disagree! For me my mother is my entire world! This is cruel for both mother & son as this completely deprieve empathy shared between mother & son
@@GODolutionwhat an idiot! A teenager still needs a mother's comfort and love. Until he's 18, he still needs both his parents to guide him. So go spread your stupid logic elsewhere.
@@GODolution children will always need their parents in different ways. not only when you are still a kid but also, you still need them during your adulthood for mostly emotional support.
@@rohithosamani36 Mama's boys are rarely useful in difficult times and places.
The woman said a very good line
If the woman is the wife of landowner then you're segregated if the woman is of a worker there's no segregation
It's about rich and poor
And how it is a good line 🤔
@@mogleesh-22 the educated discriminate while the men of the soil stay true to nature
That woman is dead now. She was a legend, a hero
@@mdahsenmirza2536 this is true to an extent
Poor are discriminated against rich all the time
So True
This isn't improving anything, if anything this makes things worse. Why not just teach boys to treat women like people instead and stop blaming women for men's actions?
Men are treated like they are animals who can't control themselves and women like sex dolls. We are basically destroying the lives of everyone
umm? where's the blaming girl part? society in general or pls give timestamp(if in vid)
Oh god stfu
@@terintiaflavius3349 I urge you to watch this video...not only u but all people should watch...
there is lot of things which international media hide from u
but international media won't show u this
look what happening in western countries ...vice news won't show u this
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Why not teach both to respect people with values not gender.
Fun facts: 99% of Indians dont know about this practice but all of us have experienced some kind of alienation (same shit different day)
it reminds me of my school where boys and girls were forbidden to interact with each other 😂😂😂😂😂 if we did then there would be rumours flying around about dating
this has reduced a lot nowadays. my cousin only has girl friends
Bro it was not forbidden at all in my school
Everyone talks to everyone
Which school u studied
@@kunalgupta8380 Lucky. This used to happen a lot in the 90s and early 2000s.
It used to happen in my school too.i recently got out of school
@@veryconfused9768 maybe u are too shy to talk to girls
Its not an official rule like u won't get punished to talk to girls
This problem is not limited to rural India…
I am saying from personal experience
In my school (day boarding school) which is so called modern with fees of 2.5 lakh yearly
Our director (80 year old man) made a rule that girls will not talk to boys at all and he used to say this in assembly every 2nd or 3rd time….
Even evening games time of girls and boys was actually different
When there was game time of girls boys were not allowed to go out of their hostels and vice versa
I
In India you will get the most regressive mindset as well as the most open minded people 😂😂. I have been to two schools and never faced such a problem. I am in class 12 and still if I like I sit with my male friend and teachers have no problem 👍👍
Same here, in our boarding school, boys and girls sat in different rooms even being in same grade/class.
@@neetsuccess2261it's so shocking my school specially in recess was filled with lovebirds everywhere 😂
its not regressive its protective. this rule also existed in my college and many students opposed it but before this there were also multiple cases of pregnent female students living in hostel. now if the girls father comes and asks the college authorities that 'how did my daughter get pregnant?' , what should be the response of the college authorities? if you can answer this question, then you decide if these rules are important or not.
@@vivekjk6729 it's not the college's fault if a female student gets pregnant unless it's a case of rape.
As a Indian, this also a culture shock for me.
Lol yeah exactly
yeah me too hehe
Mee too, I didn't even knew any the ng like this
Lmao yeah 🤣
I didn't even know India existed
This doesn't make any sense to me
By making children's sit in these rooms these old men dilute their minds too
Yep. And indoctrinate them with the senseless patriarchy
Bai Rajasthan te
I'm so fortunate to be a North East Indian....never saw such gender discriminations....even in the most remote villages
@@ayushsingh4574 at least they are happy people with safe and healthy environment..less pollution .. quality of life is good there
I am an haryanvi myself born and raised up here and Never seen anything like this lol..
@@ayushsingh4574 atleast they breathe clean air.
@@ayushsingh4574 north indians are suffering from corona and most of uncivilized regions enjoying the corona
@@AbhishekSharma-rp3vx Kerala a southern State is still contributing 30 percent of cases with such a small population
North east isn't suffering from Corona because anyone rearly goes there as compared to ncr, Gujarat, Mumbai, Haryana it's a secluded place
My best friend is in India, we met through phone app game and ended up exchanging hand written letters through the years. She is more like my little sister and I consider her as my family. We tell each other's cultures and traditions to educate each other and to better understand our different lives and respect it no matter how shocking some are.
Nice 👍 👌
early years village's lack security and close proximity to forest which invites thieves, flowers pickers, jackels, tigers, snakes that why males of family used to sleep outside for protection, one of main reason for segregation but time changed and this thing become gender discrimination.
A wise woman once said-
"don't protect women from the evil of the men, protect men from becoming evil"
Not possible
nope for protecting civilization you had to become evil.
@@Abhishek-ux3or Kaafi defeatist
@Alexandra Daddario Fanboy my father is a polite and shy man, he is also my friend and makes a clown of himself so i can laugh when i cry , and about myself ive been graped a lot by other men without my consent, if your father is a shitty dude dont asume that all the fathers are as shit as yours is, lady.
@Alexandra Daddario Fanboy where did they say that? 💀
this practice start the alienation of women and girls in general which raises the ideology that the forbidden fruit is always sweeter, making it rather more prone for the women to be abused
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@@thatipuditeja9367 As I said, whataboutism is not a great argument. So stop it, get some help.
Freedom is not free and that the hard truth
U seem to be frm Rajasthan.
@@infinite5795 uhm no?
They call it "dishonor" but in reality, its rape.
Nah
It is consensual sex or having a partner...
And dishonour to women not men people really only think about their izzat what can i say
U
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As an Indian I noticed this when I was in Rajasthan. I found it very shocking but no one could explain it to me. Thank you for making this documentary. Amazing how we can have just incredibly different experiences and have the same roots.
From what I understand these communities have the most gender based violence and problems with rape and murder.
Of course they have problems with rape and murder because THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACT WHEN THEY'RE AROUND WOMAN.
Depends on the strategy and education level. Historically, barbarians provoke and create borders. Nevertheless most people forget that our DNA is mostly Asian; bloodline clans have never remained constant. Hence the continent of Asia had Hindus in many territories.
This is only prevalent in joint family households in Rajasthan and haryana, it is not prevelant elsewhere, not even in Bihar.
@@MrSdsok We do you think joint family units are about? Keeping it in the family more like. What kind of prejudices do isolated joint families have? Is their mindset fixed on a local imaginary border?
@@atulnayak5715 culture of a state differs significantly from other, like culture of West Bengal is very different from bihar and the rest of the North. As someone from rural West Bengal, joint families in the rural regions are like group of smaller families living close to each other. They have different huts with even different bath rooms and kitchens. Joint families can be huge to the point that a few families can compose a village. Both boys and girls do get married of early though, however there are no bifurcation brothers, sisters, along with their mother and father live in the same hut.
Sounds like a good way to guarantee that men don't understand women, and think of them as alien.
Retarted comment.
@@Nayab3322 I think you intended to say “retarded” 🤣
@@DougOfTheAntarctic Yes sexist.
Exactly!!!
Basically every Indian problem boils down to "Log kya kahengay".
Seriously, in their quest for protecting their "honour" all they do is dishonour our country and hold it back
Exactly 4 log dekhng ky khng I never saw those 4 log
Same with japan and other countries too
@@debarjandatta2170 yes, people who dont respect equality are against our country's development.
Delete your social media then see
In 21 years of my existence in northern India I've never of this practice. Why would anyone go to foreign lands when u can experience culture shock in your own country!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
bruh, true imagine living in a place for years and you're like wait i never heard about this at all, man you learn new shit about your country/state everyday
Same for me
It is very common . I'm from Haryana i know this
Same and especially living so close to Delhi, then too I had no idea.
@A genuine Atheist did they say that it doesn't exist? lol
This is common in Pakistan too, though not as an intent to separate male from female members of family but to show manly hood of male as it's said man should not stay at home for long rather stay out or else they are called "Ghar ghusla" that means who is afraid of world and takes shelter at home. Introverts like me, who like to stay at home and away from alot of people are called weird and 'darpook' (fearful) even by their own family.
Being an Indian I never heard about this until now.
There is always something new to know.
Me either
@@rshawon1982 I agree
@RM I'm myself from that area, and I never heard about all these. Kaha se dhundte yrr ye log ?😂
@RM i from nort area but i also didnt know this practice until now
As someone who came from a tribe, i also used to live with rules that are unnecessary, random, or even dangerous. After i got proper education, I realize that not everything cultural or done by ancestors is good. Ancestors are human too, no man is perfect.
People who defend sati, deserves to be puished
“Ancestors are human too” you hit the nail on the head I couldn’t have said it any better
I like how you disregard women and say 'no man is perfect'
@@haruk2312 when someone says “no man is perfect” it includes both genders most of the time. Wo”men”
so called most educated community also dont want to change (accept) their ansistor mistake ..and spread their bullshit system even in Forign countries 😂
Social education is more important than basic math, reading and writing especially in rural India.
That is why Indian students are good at solving math and writing essays but when comes to debate or demonstration, 90% won't be able to speak properly.
@@subhashishbagchi3191facts right there
@United Provinces of Planet Earth after all the West still mostly thinks of these conservative idiots only when they hear of India
Especially in Islamic Madarsas and among Muslims.*
Spittin straight faccs
I am Bengali and here it means Meeting, I always saw baithak in Bengali television where all men and women have fun, play games ,and eat together during Durga pooja time. It's really fun to watch. So for me baithak is a very different thing It's more like a picnic to me but in a room 😂😂😂
I feel shamed that this is not covered by indian media so the world media shows us the mirror.
Diversity is the reason.
Our media never show anything
Shh... Don't say anything. Didn't you hear their names or saw their long beards and talk of namaz. Mewat is Muslim majority. Secularism.
Indian media is controlled by the government
@@alokozay300 far from it...the left controls it! Since USSR era no less!!
Sex isn't evil.
They're all family lol. Its still weird.
It is if u can't control your lust..
It's Rajasthan what do u expect
But not knowing who ur father is.... Is a big evil 🤣🤣
@Mo Khalid anything can be done in an evil way but sex between two consenting adults, in any fashion, is never evil, at all. Also, evil doesn't exist. There are just people with brains wired to do horrible things as a result of genetics, environment, and circumstances. Free will does not exist.
I am also from Rajasthan, India even I didn't have any knowledge of such orthodox tradition. Childhood is a tender period in which mother's love and grandmothers wisdom and stories are required .
They are showing very remote areas in particular places.
@Pavan Kumar well yes
They are victims of islam
@@gangasudhakaran4182 ?
I am Indian and from North India. We also had "baithak" until my grandpa passed away. My grandpa was the only one slept in that or eat in that. We all had our own rooms to sleep in. I am actually shocked right now if all this is true.
The burden of dishonor is put on the women, not the men.
Why can't we see each other as Humans?😖😖
It is tho, sometimes even the males are killed.
lol such sexism
@@gfxgcggsggvdvgddg6223 isn't that more of a Haryana thing? honor killings?
@@rini9325 depends on the status sometimes.
"If she doesn'twant to wear a veil, we will support her"
"If it's suffocating (to wear a veil), then don't do it"
"But if the in-laws asked you to do it (to wear a veil), then do it"
"Her family is respected if she respects her in-laws"
Somehow it's heartbreaking to hear that a woman's in-laws seem to have more power than her own family, and having power over her own family
It’s easy to offer support when it changes nothing. They’re not supporting change, they’re just pretending to be progressive.
Muslim rule in India brought these kinds of customes 😔
@@01Crown again blaming muslims for something that is caused because of illiteracy and stupid customs created by humans and has nothing to do with Islam
@@ssg1885 religious practices do bring in a lot of harm (some good) but a lot of harm.
@@ssg1885 The person wasn't blaming Islam. It's the customs and traditions that some religions(not just Islam) bring along.
6:55 "If there is no break in the car, it's bound to get into an accident. This tradition is the break mechanism for men." It sounds to me more like removing the whole engine from the car to prevent any type of accident to occur....
With different perspective in reality breaks helps car to move faster
If there was a no brake in car not anyone can drive car faster.because of insecurity
But if break is always on the car will not move
@@InsightGrid620 I see where you are coming from and in a way you are right. Breaks help to go faster :)
So in this case the question remains does it actually go faster due to this practice. Of course as a western outsider I don't think so, but that is also very much a cultural thing
Thank you Vice for this brilliant reporting, I am from Haryana itself....not very far from Mewat. Only in summer vacations(usually for 30 days) we used to go to our Grandmother house where we have this kind of 'Bethak' Concept like exactly shown in the video. From the childhood, I am seeing that the old gather around that area in the evening, the elderly do the hookah gathering like always and the other adults indulge in playing cards and all other fun stuff. But in our village, we don't have this segregation concept between a boy and a girl.
I am too stunned as well, knowing about many villages in southern Haryana are following this discrimination concept in the name of Tradition.
I think a good Government School may have the power to demolish this tradition within one generation. It is possible if the government starts spending at least 25% of their total budget in the Education Sector.
A modern marriage based relationship and sex education is normal. Adolescent boys and girls develop emotionally and sometimes hyperactively. It is the lack of sports facilities and keep fit that increases undesired urges in both genders when young.
Mistrust and self doubt in the man of the house is apparent in this practice.
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@@thatipuditeja9367 Why are you replying with this video on comments? Accept the wrong as it is. Stop justifying the wrong with ‘look this happens in other countries too’ card. It wont change anything.
Need serious education.
Not only education but mindset changes all around India
You got the point that many people didn't get. It's just not Education, but also mindset for which our upbringing is responsible along with moral values.
Here highly educated people in india still believe in black magic.
@@Ant4_7 nope i guess...but yeah there are some exception....here politicians are playing with religions...thats sad :(
For that you first need to change the conservatives in power.
@@anujyoutube58 yeah, and I am the emperor of the universe. What other made up stories are we telling ourselves?
Ages 6-20 have to live there? What the hell, what if the older boys prey on the younger ones?
According to them gay men don't exist in India
@@hijack69 point he
@@hijack69 which is far from true 😂🙏 i’ve seen more closeted homosexuals here in india than some other developed and open minded countries
@@hijack69 that only exist in cities where men get feminized a lot
@@koobifossils7495 praying on kids isn't homosexuality, it's pedophilia
This is when we understand that we need to view people not only as men and women and but as human being
This is so harmful, young kids need positive influences from both sexes to grow into well-rounded adults.
I have been living in India for 22 years i have never heard of this , i mean who knows everything about India any way
Same
International news channels keep showing the worst out of India, making it seem like ALL indians live like this while only 5 percent are as regressive as they portray to foreigners. They want people to have a very bad image of India.
@@Mayfan44 this baithak thing is not even 5% of Indian population, more like .1%
@@Mayfan44 they got something real issue with us.Even they made funny cartoon of india when we Went to Mars mission.This proves how jeaouls they are.They followed leftists ideology and they are scared that India may overtake us in future.
@@darthashpie exactly. We NEED to speak up and stop promoting these kind of content online. They're making us hate our own country. Wtf.
Then we think why Delhi is unsafe for women
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@Shreya Sharma Delhi is surrounded by these states and when these people come here to work they get cultural shocks about women walking freely and rape them.
As a rajasthani i never heard of this shit lol must be common in villages but not in citiessz
It is more like haryana as the village lies close to haryana lol
This system is more prevalent in haryana even the place is located in haryana up delhi border i mean
@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 sup aspirant I'm neet aspirant too
Btw I agree with u
As an anxiety ridden mother of a little boy, I could never let my baby be surrounded by men like that to many opportunities for a predatory behaviors
I am from India[ Rajasthan] and I had never heard about this. I am in shock right now that such type of things are still happening. I don't know when not only India the whole world will stop discrimination on the basis of sexuality , religion ,color and race we all are human beings.
Yes, people who dont support equality, is gaianst our country's development
They are just victims of islam
"This tradition is the break mechanism for men." - Oh humanity, the lengths to which men have gone to control the live's of women, their bodies and their minds. Family honor is only found between a young girl's legs.
I actually know someone whose mother separated him from women/girls for the 1st 15 years of his life. And even later in life he went to an extremely male dominated field: Mathematics. And studying in a male dominated college where no one was a female in his batch. Surprisingly, my sister got a chance and got in the college getting AIR:2. He was chosen to be her mentor in college. And that was extremely difficult for him. But now, our family and him became extremely close. And currently, he is in America. Its surprising how we grew up in two different conditions, me and my sister in a female dominated home while him in a male dominated one. And yet we managed to be close.
Why was it difficult for him to mentor your sister?
@@Michelino_M5 Because he had never really been around a female before and he felt like he was going against his past.
@@isabella_potterweasley8268 Hm, I think I understand a bit better, though I can't help but wonder how he felt exactly. Was he just uncomfortable or did he feel like he was doing something wrong?
You don't have to answer that of course, in fact thank you for answering my previous question, and for sharing this in general. Cheers
@@Michelino_M5 That's something I don't know either. Sorry. Haha you are welcome :) Thank you for asking a question : D
Bad for him , f3males bring chaos and pain in men's life . And good thing is he in America . I'm also American Indian and Ik how terrible Feminism is there , now men over there especially the younger generation are rising and are about the totally dismantle gynocenterism
I am an Indian and I traveled so much in village areas like very remote areas (because of my work) in rajasthan, haryana, himachal, bihar, Sikkim, orisa, and some of South Indian region but never witness this culture ever, it's really hard to believe like its a shock to me also.
Being a South Indian and never knew these things still exist in our country. 😱 In my opinion India has a long journey ahead to catch up with rest of the world
It is predominantly in the areas of India that were ruled by Muslim culture. Gender segregation, veils, etc. came from that part of the world.
Most north Indians also didn't know
@@vip129870 well, even japan and Korea have gender discrimination
We should stop blaming everything on Muslims
(Even though their leaders were awful, the people aren't)
And no one should force a woman to wear hijab, it's her choice...you have no right to force her
@@LL-oq5sf Muslims started it first why come to India in the first place
@@ramumanickam1643 I'm from a muslim country and we NEVER HAD THIS, NEVER. No matter how segregated it was, a brother, uncle, father, grand-father, step-father, son-in-law were never segregated within the same house. The video shows all faiths practicing it, so it's proper to the CULTURE OF THAT AREA. If you just shove off the issue under "yeah it's the muzzies" logic, you won't solve the issue for them.
These guys took sigmund freud too seriously
Haha exactly 😅
😂😂😂damn
Yeah.
LMAO
🙂
I’m a mommas boy, barely having any real relationship with my father or step father would drive me crazy if I had to live like this
@J N nothing positive comes out of this. Even though I live in a major city myself, there's this rural area close to my locality. So, at some point, having to interact with some people from that area is inevitable.
Back when I was in school, I used to go this tuition class where it was common for a few kids from this rural area to come as well. Every word that used to come out of their mouths was pure filth, they didn't have any respect for any female, the only reason they used to respect the elders in their family was because they were their providers. They had no regards for human lives either. Crime rates in rural India are staggering, so they used to tell us city kids a few stories of actual crimes they witnessed themselves and for them, watching someone taking somebody else's life was a completely normal phenomena, in their words, the victims "asked for it" and the list of shit they used to preach goes on and on. Whom do they learn to become humans like this from? The men of their society, who cut them off from the females who have some sense and empathy. And these were early teens I'm talking about, imagine what kind of adults they'd have become now.
@J N why don't you agree that it is a bad practice and need to be abolish. I cannot even think about leaving my father, I learn from him.
@J N hard to judge, how? If they've presented their thought process through their speech and show no remorse or the need to assess themselves if they're on the right path then what else is to be interpreted if not that they are raised badly by bad people in a bad environment? Are you on the same page? Are you down the lines of sympathising with them and saying maybe they're not that bad?
You would have been with your mum till your brother got married and brought a wife home then you would be out ,
@J N ew live with old bags who smoke all day .no please.
I have seen baithak system in my Grandma's Village, but it was never so strict. Like men can go in / out of house, sleep in house as normal etc. It was basically a men-only place to hangout.
I'm from West Bengal and baithak, as we call it 'boithok' means a totally different thing...it is not permanent but temporary. It's when all the people are called in for a serious discussion about something between a family or two families, maybe even more idk...but females are also allowed to join if they want....but there are some exceptions to that, especially if u go to a rural area...but baithak is held in someone's house not in a separate space
Baithak means living room in Bengali. There is no concept of separation of women and men or any kind of shit like that. It all went away after Raja Ram Mohan Roy and Brahmo Samaj.
Dude u said "women are allowed to join" Do u get how messed up it sounds.
I lived in West Bengal as well as Delhi, and lie me tell u women ate definitely more empowered with basic rights in West Bengal that in Delhi.
Also there is no separation between men and women there.
Yes I have heard about some kind of oppression in the rural areas but that doesn't go this far. And
@@nyxx_andra3187 Both of my maternal and paternal families are in villages in WB. (Paternal ones are even more poorer). And still there is nothing like men and woman. They all support both of my brothers and sisters to study and make a career. Both my grandparents too. No taunts or anything. Both men and women work on the fields and also do household chores by their time. While in the city I was told about the sexism my friends have to face, I couldn't relate to it. And I absolutely agree that women in WB are more empowered than in Delhi.
@@triple7536 I have visited some places in the rural India where I have seen a kind of oppression.
I won't name the place put the NGO I was volunteering in stopped a total of 6/7 forced marriage in just a week.
Most of these villages are near the India -Bangladesh border and most of the people are not indian , they crossed over from Bangladesh.
But it happens.
@@triple7536 and u have to agree that the original comment of the guy saying "Allowed " Is wrong.
Not gonna lie, this exists in India but most of the times it is not as hard and fast. It exists in my family too but I realised it just now. It is very subtle like very chill.
so y'all men don't want to hangout with females ?
@@andreidieor5387 not always. Baithak is supposed to be like a man cave where you can hangout. Im sure this exist in similar forms around the world. We just don't realise it.
Seems like not very chill. With the women being like not able to chill? You feel me?
@@SpliffMan5000 this type of rituals are the reason India is no. 1 in rape of females..fuckin disgusting
@Rohan Dick did you see the whole video. Nasim (a muslim) is telling the story of his family. He specifically says about the practice is prevalent in both Muslim and non muslim family. Mewat is Muslim majority. So don't blames Hindus ?
The mere walls that we build to protect ourselves also becomes our prison.
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Jaher bhai jaher
"No road left but the only one that leads to end"
Historically, barbarians provoke and create borders. Today we exploit others weaknesses. We all bleed the same colour at the time of major conflict. Nevertheless most people forget that our DNA is mostly Asian; bloodline clans have never remained constant. Hence the continent of Asia had Hindus in many territories.
Visited India on vacation. The difference between the North and south was immense. The North should change the way they treat their women. Learn from the south.
When men don't trust themselves even with the women in their own homes.
@Ali al-Dulaimi علي الدليمي But marrying your cousins is wrong too..
Shut up sexist.
Lol
I never knew such a thing existed… im a south indian.. still its unbelievable .
I'm from Delhi even I didn't know
@@saurabhmishra2363 damn 😅
@@saurabhmishra2363 bro iam from punjab i live near rajeystan boder its not even 70km never heard of this shit before
Our "cultural" system is fucked ain't it
@@devanarayanpraveen1589 it should be on how fucked up is fucked up memes
That old lady was so wise.
Her frustration you can see, she's studied gender inequality in India for 50 years!
I was also raised in a similar culture. I can assure this is really an exaggeration. The male from other homes go in baithak but male of the house freely go to home. Even friends and relatives can easily go to home. Baithak is mostly for stranger and even this system is changing very fast.
I go to my village(in Bihar) each year and the house structure is similar (with a baithak). But rarely does anyone follow these traditions anymore in my village. I hang out with my male cousins in my village. Nobody really questions us. My aunts work as teachers in local schools. There are well built washrooms at my home. All of this makes me feel really good about my village.
Bro i have banglaw ( baithak) in my village house, but neither heard and tought any kind of this rule.
Live from nawada
@Reuel yes
They are victim of islam
As an outsider (Irish) I can see how this practise was initially thought of as a "manly" learning experience for young boys; teaching them etiquette and how to behave with respect etc. Unfortunately it also has its negative side. Human beings are so flawed, we cannot live the idyll.... even though it is something many strive towards. Also, throughout history, our communities "swing the pendulum" between extreme harshness and the shedding of all rules of conduct. Why can we never seem to settle on middle ground? We are a mystery.
Exactly. These instilled martial values and in a way gave role models.Earlier every village used to be armed and self -reliant. This also strengthens community bond. In my village, we don't have this baithak concept but there is community place like any other where young people will play and older ones would spend their time with their friends. Gradually, we also learned many things from our elders. Newer generation that is more cutt off from others often get hooked onto drugs. In my experience, quiet kids not mingling much with other kids and elders often are into drugs or online gaming etc.
honestly , i am always amazed by the customs and traditions of my country.
Well I'm gonna make you make you surprised that in the state of meghalaya after marriage a husband have to come and live in the wife house , we took our surname from the mother and all the property is inherited to the youngest daughter .
@@김준효-t4f Well the property being inherited by the women of the family is a custom in my village in Karnataka too.
@@theultimateshield5133 ohh I don't know that thank you for the information
The whole 'manglik' thing and marrying a dog/tree/other things I have no clue about is equally strange. I don't know if it's still popular now though, and if it's restricted to particular states.
@@sohinichakraborty1697 There's nothing harmful about it so its not something that people need to be concerned about
I belong to one of the village of Haryana and in my village Baithak means a room for guests, a room inside my home only,which is more clean, with sitting arrangements, I mean a room which is ready to receive guests. We receive our guest in that room no matter male or female, where we serve them snacks.
And we sit and eat together there and talk, chit chat.
snacks nhi hukka bol😂
@@fgg6263 why should I call namkeen, samosa, biscuits with chai hukka, for majority of People this is what we call snacks.
Nah bro seriouslyy we most of the time serve snacks
Coming from U.P we used to have a baithak in our houses. Taking to the convenience it was comfortable but as I and my brothers grew up in a city the closeness to our mother and me mattered the most or say helped in forming the mental foundation of the boy's in our house. My brothers understand the reality of what a girl endures and lives and is as human as them. And I also believe the touch of women is very important in a boy's life. When you segregate both in their own houses it makes them secluded.
Vice versa too?
Totally natural in what teenagers go through. Adolescent boys and girls develop emotionally and sometimes hyperactively. It is the lack of sports facilities and keep fit that increases undesired urges in both genders when young.
The villages show the real images of India, we can't judge it by seeing Mumbai, Delhi and Bangalore like developed cities.
That means you don't see real sections of our country, you're only perceived to see good things
They’re both very real, you can’t ignore one and only focus on the other
You can't ignore one and focus on other.
I came from Kerala where everyone alot of people strive for equality. We also give nationalism and education a priority over anuthing
How can you decide which one is real? So mean the culture in cities is fake? N this one is only real🙄
@@D.2601 no i didn't mean to say that, i was putting the light on the fact that we can't ignore the rural section of the society which shows the real and raw perspective of Indian citizen's life.
It's amazing how these traditions often start with one person/family doing something. Then it becomes a long-lasting tradition deeply embedded into the subculture that people are afraid to stop doing.
Exactly!!
Mfs who spent 5th-10th + 11th-12th on boys hostels :
"This sounds like an issue I always knew but never knew"
But why is it always the woman's honor that's questioned? It takes two hands to clap, doesn't it?
Because back in olden times, there was no way of knowing for a man whether its his child in the woman's womb or some other man's child.
And unfortunately as a consequence of this, such gender segregation started to develop
Patriarchy 🤷♀️
this only prevails in the underprivileged and uneducated villages. in modern cities and even in modern villages, these kinds of things do not happen...
True
But the mentality and psychology is similar
@meghanath bro Towns also exist 🤣🤣🤣🤣and within 5 years the number of middle class people will be more in India. 👍👍Also Town people also dont have such traditions or culture, much more educated 👍👍👍👍I am a town girl ❤️from WB
I just hate how he said if girl do any evil with boy and bring shame to family
That’s why these villagers are backward in every aspect
Bro my village is in south india (karnataka) i would rather live there than living in delhi or mumbai
@@frankocean6676 becuz karnataka is cool
@@sailee8388 abe gawar ho kya ?i just replied the comment
Its actually a great tradition , which helps to transition from boyhood to manhood.
Read the 'Iron John'
@@vinayak640 we are doing pretty good without this stupid tradition.
I've heard my mother tell me that a brother and sister would not allowed to be st home on their own back in the day. Once I was staying at my uncle's. I was 19 and got on well with my cousin brother. Our bedrooms were next to each other. My uncle came over and reassigned me to a room downstairs. I understood why he was doing that but was horrified that he would think something would happen with my cousin. I kind of get that without access to the opposite sex, things happen within the family.
I dont knwo to support his action or go against it
@@criptik5208 Teach boys self control and women deserve respect
@@covenawhite4855 Teach GIRLS self control to wear proper clothing and Not Act like a hoe
@@covenawhite4855 are boys always wrong
@@arvindsinghchauhan7496 Boys are capable of being respectful to women and still be manly.
They say kids learn from elders about good things but the village is still un developed.
Seems like the elders are not educated and knowledgeable themselves and are stopping the next generation as well.
World is reaching mars and here we have people who can't reach their own house !!!!!!
This is making him just a man, and depriving him from being a brother and son, he doesn't see women living normally and hence no empathy for them, I am shocked how this shapes their mentality.
Yeah this is cruelty. A 10-11 year old boy need both his parents to shape the character.
Completely different in Alabama .... Me and my cousin been together for 2years 🎉🎉
😂😂
I just watched some sweet home Alabama memes
@@sidharthcs2110 lolllll
Hol up.
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Now I understand why my nanaji never came inside the house and why my aunts wanted me to serve the food outside to them as being a little girl I could still go out without being judged. It wasn't this extreme but I can relate to the spirit. I am from Madhya Pradesh.
" The frustrating thing about India is that whatever you can rightfully say about India, the opposite is also true"
And Look here I'm 21 years old and still used to sleep next to my mom. But now I'm sleeping alone as she passed away few months back.
I didn't know about this. I'd not have liked leaving the main home and missing out on time with my sisters and mum.
like the kid said " its more fun here " ahahaha . party all night with the boys 365 days a week lool
@@sali1023 and we can clearly see how much of a fun he must be having there isolated with old bums !!!
@@theFastestSloth_001 lol u destroyed him
@@theFastestSloth_001 😂😂
I accept that this might be a part of life in some parts of India, but it is wrong to say that it is the kind of culture which majority of India follows ....the title is absolutely misleading and it defames the rest of the country.....the actions of a few people should be used to villify the rest of us .....this is nothing but click bait to popularise your video......
@meghanath its decreasing
@meghanath which world you're living in???
Majority of villages aren't like this.
Well said
I thought my country couldn't surprise me anymore.....Then vice dropped this
Man looks at woman with evil intention but it's the girl's fault.
Girls' fault ?? U're a possessor of very progressive mindset🙄
1729 It's irony lmao, they're pointing out how stupid that mindset sounds.
women dresses for men with evil intention to lure then sexually
biblical stuff, very patriarcal
Quite an irony, the two states mentioned here has the highest rape cases logged in the country.
Getting different bedrooms from the girls when you hit puberty makes sense, but I don't see why it has to be in a completely different house....
There is so much restriction in the Indian society for girls and boys,that for a lot of us the first interactions we have with the opposite gender is after the arranged marriage. Only in metros,this restriction is not there,but small cities and villages, this is everyday reality.
13:15 “Why don’t we make a few blindfolds out of my scarf and tie it around the eyes of those damn men?” Preach Queen 👑
I love that atleast this video started with " in north india, in SOME villages..." Instead of pretending that this is just " every indian household " and "all of india is exactly like this" which is something most videos tend to do.
It's very nice of u to bring these type of stories to light and educating them is more important
I am from an Indian from the most rural and poor state from a rural village. But the extent of this gender segregation is shocking too much for me.
So they r scared that those guys who grew up in their bhaithak might do something with their women,proves what kind of education they provide in their bhaithak,they don't teach those men in their baithak to have self control that's why and they know it very well
For us in the cities, baithaks are just drawing rooms where you entertain guests and visitors. Only special or close guests are welcomed inside the main house.
Drawing is the place, where most of us love having fun time with our parents or siblings.
ive seen several. it like a parlour room in those families now, but the generation before used them. it was used only once in a while when I was in India. several homes that were more affluent that is a couple inherited them. its really cool to know what they were for besides, "not used anymore, older generation" In that community, a person 10 years older than I was married at age 12 to a 22 year old. they all have government issued cards that say "backwards class" There was still a whole lot of gender separation though... so many freakin rules all the time everywhere. One of my friends were so terrified of being burned alive by dishonoring her family in such a way. the women even younger than I dont even question this system because they havent experienced the freedom in the first place. But when one has had some freedom, its super hard to go back
@VICE you should mention that this practice happens only in some remote villages only in hardly couple of states.
They did many times watch the video
@@abdsnomadicescapades7773 still it gives impression of whole country like this. Just look at the title.
@@yubi-kun958 It's still inside Insia right? That's what title says
Well if you watched the video it's mentioned many times that's its only in some parts
Still happens
Fun fact : you live in India from India and still feel cultural shock wow
I am an Indian, I have lived in india my whole life....
And this comes to me as a cultural shock....
Not to this extent but I have seen something similar in my village. I was myself taught in an all girls school, even now I'm not completely comfortable around guys after graduating from my college. Fun fact is the same family who told me to stay away from guys are looking for guys for me to get married 😏. It's funny how they expect us to learn something new while they raised us to become something else, when they are themselves not ready to unlearn those old practices