Very many ignorant comments here - Loncin is licenced by & manufactures 300cc engines not just for Kawi but also BMW. This is the same engine they also use on the Voge
Since I made this video I talked to a BMW mechanic and now I am having doubts. The mechanic told me that the BMW F650 and the Aprilia 650 (pegaso?) engines -that we thought were the same- were actually not. Despite being manufactured on the same production line there were some major differences. For example camshaft chain tensioner placement. I am now also having doubts about my Voge900's engine. Displacement same, looks similar from outside... but we would only know for sure if we took it appart and compared side-by-side. On the other side it does matter if it lasts too... I am trying to make it lasts longer with 5000km oil changes.
@@onthepegs Makes sense that they would commission certain bespoke parts inside them for various reasons,and yes would be very informative to have them opened side by side.. Also yes do as many frequent oil changes sooner rather than later - ride safe!
Hi there, I tested this bike today and here are my brief thoughts : "Comments after Essais/Test ride : Front brake pretty-much non existent, back brake good; Taller than I remembered; VERY short gearing, leading to 60 kph at 6000 rpm 6th gear; Vibey, like riding a 125cc; Good handling/cornering on-road; didn’t test off-road; Not for me."
Interesting. Sounds like you tested a different bike. For me front brake is fine. Soft at first but once you pull it, it bites. RPM at 60kph in 6th gear is much less if I remember correctly but will test in the coming days. Vibey it is, it is a single cylinder afterall.
Waiting for one of the big brands to sue all these Chinese thiefs, unless they purchased rights to this engine. Thats 100% the Kawi 300 engine, just listened to a video and the motor/clutch sound identical also. The ones that copy Honda and KTM at least used R&D that was outdated on previous models, Kawi is still using this engine.
I don't think that is the case. Soon after kawa launched the klx300 in usa voge was launched in europe. So I think the Chinese made a deal with the Japanese. Maybe the Chinese (Loncin) are even producing the engine block for kawa. Like they produce the bmw 900 engine (bmw f900gs has the same engine as voge900 that I ordered)
LOL, keep it. Nothing beats my Kawie. China just has ripoff bikes, poor quality, and non-existent customer service. You coukdn’t PAY me to have one; there is no comparison, even though ‘gina tried a direct ripoff of the KLX. “Almost identical”, lol. Riders, don’t be fooled.
I said the same thing. At least with the Honda and KTM clones they used outdated RnD from previous models. Unless they are paying Kawi for the use its a direct copy of a bike still in production
What is so bad about it? Kawa has been using it for some time. The previous version was 250cc and I guess there were some modifications. Most importantly it uses EFI instead of carburator.
Having owned both a BMW GS800 and a Husqvana TR650 ( both made by Loncin) , I can safely say the two of them were excetionally well made, except for the TR650 Ecu. The ECU of the tr650 was a Magnetti Marelli made in Italy and was crap. Everything made by Loncin in China was excellent. That doesn't mean chinese= good, but that there are very good Chinese manufacturers and really crappy ones ( try a Sachs150 sometime. Pure rubbish with a german name attached)
I wonder which brand's engine block does Voge R125 use? 🤔
If you find it out let us know!
Very many ignorant comments here - Loncin is licenced by & manufactures 300cc engines not just for Kawi but also BMW. This is the same engine they also use on the Voge
Since I made this video I talked to a BMW mechanic and now I am having doubts. The mechanic told me that the BMW F650 and the Aprilia 650 (pegaso?) engines -that we thought were the same- were actually not. Despite being manufactured on the same production line there were some major differences. For example camshaft chain tensioner placement. I am now also having doubts about my Voge900's engine. Displacement same, looks similar from outside... but we would only know for sure if we took it appart and compared side-by-side. On the other side it does matter if it lasts too... I am trying to make it lasts longer with 5000km oil changes.
@@onthepegs Makes sense that they would commission certain bespoke parts inside them for various reasons,and yes would be very informative to have them opened side by side.. Also yes do as many frequent oil changes sooner rather than later - ride safe!
Hiflo HF112 this is the filter you are looking for.
thx!
Hi there, I tested this bike today and here are my brief thoughts :
"Comments after Essais/Test ride :
Front brake pretty-much non existent, back brake good;
Taller than I remembered;
VERY short gearing, leading to 60 kph at 6000 rpm 6th gear;
Vibey, like riding a 125cc;
Good handling/cornering on-road; didn’t test off-road;
Not for me."
Interesting. Sounds like you tested a different bike. For me front brake is fine. Soft at first but once you pull it, it bites. RPM at 60kph in 6th gear is much less if I remember correctly but will test in the coming days. Vibey it is, it is a single cylinder afterall.
Great video!
Waiting for one of the big brands to sue all these Chinese thiefs, unless they purchased rights to this engine. Thats 100% the Kawi 300 engine, just listened to a video and the motor/clutch sound identical also. The ones that copy Honda and KTM at least used R&D that was outdated on previous models, Kawi is still using this engine.
I don't think that is the case. Soon after kawa launched the klx300 in usa voge was launched in europe. So I think the Chinese made a deal with the Japanese. Maybe the Chinese (Loncin) are even producing the engine block for kawa. Like they produce the bmw 900 engine (bmw f900gs has the same engine as voge900 that I ordered)
@@onthepegs If they are paying them for it, great. Would be a huge selling point also. But knowing these companies they dont.
They try to rip off modern technology, but fail every time. From USAF jets to Kawies.
Super
traducir a el español por favor
es una copia de klx (no autorizado) con mala calidad
LOL, keep it. Nothing beats my Kawie. China just has ripoff bikes, poor quality, and non-existent customer service. You coukdn’t PAY me to have one; there is no comparison, even though ‘gina tried a direct ripoff of the KLX. “Almost identical”, lol. Riders, don’t be fooled.
I said the same thing. At least with the Honda and KTM clones they used outdated RnD from previous models. Unless they are paying Kawi for the use its a direct copy of a bike still in production
Te sorprenderías y creo que le rompe el culo
Tell your kawis to compete in Dakar against Kove 450 Rally.
Unfortunately it is a Kawasaki engine. This kawasaki engine is an old design, it is a bad design.
What is so bad about it? Kawa has been using it for some time. The previous version was 250cc and I guess there were some modifications. Most importantly it uses EFI instead of carburator.
@@onthepegs It is not desaxe. Honda crf300 is desaxe and it shows.
@@fcalin21 LOL, that's the dumbest criteria to call an engine a bad design.
@@williamfoster4268 The results speak for themselves. Honda has a better engine, undeniably.
@@fcalin21 you didn't post any results or factual information in support of Honda. Stop being such an ignorant goon.
Kawasaki good than all it
Japan bike is good than all its
Having owned both a BMW GS800 and a Husqvana TR650 ( both made by Loncin) , I can safely say the two of them were excetionally well made, except for the TR650 Ecu. The ECU of the tr650 was a Magnetti Marelli made in Italy and was crap. Everything made by Loncin in China was excellent. That doesn't mean chinese= good, but that there are very good Chinese manufacturers and really crappy ones ( try a Sachs150 sometime. Pure rubbish with a german name attached)