Install Windows XP on Haswell with Easy2Boot and Snappy Driver Installer
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I'm proud someone has done Windows XP on Haswell. Now we need the Ultimate Windows XP machine with i7-4790K and GTX 980 Ti (maybe even a Titan X). ;)
i have a 4820k at 4.7ghz and gtx 980ti classified running winxp with no issues at all and all devices detected , potentially i could run the 4960x or an unlocked xeon like the 1660 v2 (6core) or 1680v2 (8core). I have heard that not all titan x maxwells work under xp and it depends on the firmware revision.
Mmmm.......i wanted to top out XP And 7 on the same build years ago . After Phil, LGR & some others i did a 98 & XP top to low end. It would be nice to have fewer builds with more Full Driver supported Crossover OSs
Geforce 700 series cards were the last one to had official windows XP support... successor series ditched XP
@@adityakumarpat511 that's incorrect, gtx 960 is officially supported and if you edit the nv4_inf file u can add 980ti support like i have in my rig
I vote for a dual core g3258 cause XP is terrible at utilizing the cores.
I'm finding your channel, and Randomgaminginhd, are quickly becoming my fav PC/tech TH-cam pages. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing and educating us retro gamers. The snappy driver utility is fantastic
You don't have to explain the upload schedule every time. We're happy to get a video whenever you're ready.
Well, I kinda do, most my views are from non subscriber. And hopefully some stay on :D
@@philscomputerlab Interesting b/c you have more subscribers than views most of the time. The quality of your videos speak for themselves, IMO. Keep cranking out great content
Also, no need to hope that we find your videos entertaining.
Great set of tools, Phil. Thanks for the video!
the i7-4790 is an incredibly solid CPU, i have one since 2015 and my computer works smooth
I have the i5-4690, works great for my games (Far Cry 2, CS:GO and Dishonored) but my latest games would really benefit from the 8 Threads ... might upgrade to the i7 later this year
me too i7-4790 with 16 GB Ram & GTX 1060
Mine is paired with 16gb HyeprX and a GTX 970. Been considering a GPU upgrade.
i have same on Alienware X51 R2 its great
E3 1230 v3 here
Snappy is lifesaver for missing drivers. Have been using 2 years now for retro projects from xp to win 7.
@@lucasrem example when i did not have driver cd for wireless network adapter and could not find working driver online for win xp, just used snappy to install driver and everything worked. I have closed network for xp lan gaming
Edit: and i just like to use real gear to play old games. I have 3 different builds for 2000-2010 era and few friends have too. Thats where snappy comes handy.
I prefer Snappy Driver Installer Origin, but they're both super useful lifesavers for old drivers :D
Haswell can support my 2 favorite OPS xp and 7 so its got me covered
Haswell is great - and with AVX2 and FMA3 support it's right up there with the latest i9-9900K in terms of instruction set support. Another neat thing about Haswell is that the L1 cache is twice as fast per clock as Sandy/Ivy Bridge (Intel had to do that, in order to keep the SIMD units properly fed when running AVX2 optimized code). However, the stupid-fast L1 also makes Haswell great for pushing really high frame rates in older XP-era games, where single-threaded CPU performance is the primary bottleneck. 500 fps in Far Cry, anyone?
i find myself making popcorn every time I see phil's videos
People probably mixing up "not supported" with "won't work." "Not supported" means that if you encounter any issues then they won't help you with support for it or try and get it working for you.
That was great Phil and I took munt 32 and installed on a sd card and install Wing Commander 2 from GOG and it work great in a way I kind of learned of from you and saying thanks again and it was fun to learn it from you.
Great video! I now have an idea now for a hybrid / multi use pc once I upgrade from Haswell.
Been looking to max-upgrade my XP box ... I think this is it. Thanks!
SDI is surely a life saver, I have it sitting in a shared folder on my network so whenever I need some drivers to be picked up (usually from unsupported scenearios like these) I use a cheap generic wireless receiver to access it without carrying usb sticks here and there
Haswell is definitely underrated in terms of used intel chips. I still have my i5 4460 on both of my gaming rigs and performs very well to this day even compared to a Ryzen 3 CPU. :)
The boards are actually quite affordable, but the CPUs are not >
True that. In Canada, the cheapest I could afford a motherboard (a refurbished/used one) that costs 50-60 Canadian dollars while most CPUs themselves ranges from the pentium ones costing 60-70 at the cheapest to the most expensive yet affordable for value ones such as the i5 and i7 for $120 or less to over $200 respectively. Thankfully I've built my haswell-based gaming PCs back when they were fairly cheap to get (prior to the release of Skylake).
Haswell isn't underrated at all. People always talked well about it. Meanwhile ivy bridge and broadwell are truly underrated.
@@MJ-uk6lu I like Broadwell, but how well can it run Windows XP?
Out standing job
These two tools are awesome! A fresh install on many of my retro machines with the SDI tool makes it a breeze! The odd time I need to find a better video card driver.
Thanks Phil, It's a great video!
I made a retro conf. in weekend (booth XP and Windows 7), but i can't find the sound driver for Windows 7 (Some magic with XP driver and it's worked... after 5 hours... and drivermax... and iobit driver booster... and many couple of tea...). After you video, I download Snappy and I don't belive my eyes! He detected the right drivers! So Snappy is my new favorite tools. ;)
Oh, and E2B is a cool tool, but I think YUMI is the best.
Awesome. Definitely going to give it s try on my thinkpad w540!
another nice video love this channel
I used to have XP installed on a Sandy Bridge i3 machine with a pair of cheap Sata SSDs in RAID. I had never experienced Windows XP move so quickly lol. The best XP PC I had had before that point had a Pentium D and a 250GB HDD.
I don't remember underground looking that good.
Maced out with 16x AA, but I did turn off that motion blur effect.
At the time it was new it likely never did. Motion Blur is my nemesis gives me a headache so it gets disabled on everything I can disable it on.
Ugh! Motion blur. Just makes everything blurry, including my PC's performance. :-P
It was a VERY nice looking racer at the time. Probably the best looking (on high end PC's).
There's also a widescreen+custom resolution patch. And as Phil pointed out, disabling the motion blur is a must.
😍 yay Haswell FTW 😍
Perfect! Thanks! My GF want's to play old Sims games and such but it doesn't work good on Windows 10. She has haswell and a GTX 960. This should work on her computer. :)
Yea that should work fine :)
NFSU looks silky smooth. Beautiful. My favorite racing game of all time. I Still need to try NFSU2 though lol.
Yea v-sync and 16x AF :)
This Video has been helpfull in getting a old Lenovo 3000 jr in getting up and running.
I knew about snappy driver installer before this video. I used it in one of my lab tasks which was to hunt for drivers last week.
If you're already versed with slipstreaming for a Windows XP iso file, you should consider integrating Dibya's alternative ram patch, which allows the kernel to actually support PAE as intended and elevates Windows xp 32bit to support up to 128gb of installed memory. At that point, the only thing XP can't install to, based on inference, is nvme ssd's.
It's my understanding that evga even made custom Windows xp drivers for their x299 Dark motherboard. Couple that with nvidia's latest driver supporting the Titan Z in the OS, it is then possible to make a ludicrously expensive, overkill machine to run Windows XP on. 😀👌
Some XP drivers may not like PAE though and have a risk of not working properly somehow. Usually exhibits in the form of BSODs.
Honestly, it's really damn neat to run such an overkill system on XP, but I think it would be much better idea in the end to consider using 7.
There are backported Windows 8 NVMe drivers for Windows XP.
Great programmes use them all the time for my builds.
Yes! Snappy drivers!
There is an issue with winxp and display port 1.2 when connected to a monitor that supports displayport 1.4 and having 100hz or higher, the issue is fixed in win7 and win10 drivers but the issue continues in win xp. There is a firmware fix for this supplied by nvidia aswell but only for 9 series and mb bios must be in uefi mode (which means no winxp support)
If you get interested someday, VMWare hypervisor has a very decent virtual video adapter which can accelerate using your GPU (that's not a passthrough). If you buff the ram to 6-8 gigs and launch the same XP workplace in VM (drivers for emulated hardware come on mountable iso for everything since w95) that could be an interesting Thursday bonus video. If somebody does not have a room for dedicated retro-gaming rig, that could help.
Why this exact software? Because Virtualbox emulates Geforce2-tier GPU and fresh Hyper-V is buggy on anything pre-Skylake, while VMWare Player is free and has a decent GPU emulation.
Thanks for the video
Hey phil love your vids man your always pushing the boundaries on whats possible for retro pc, is there anyway to donate to you for projects as things are getting pricier these days
All good, I've got a huge backlog of parts that I haven't even used yet :D
Intel's HD Graphics 4000 series isn't bad at all whatsoever. I have the 'HDG4600' powered by an i7-4700MQ on my laptop and I can play all of my older games at high-maximum quality from 2006 and back. 2007-2009 and a few modern titles do need some tweaking (shadows, quality, etc) but most of the time I just drop the resolution enough (to an extent; 1280x768 or so) and keep everything on max when possible. It all of course depends on the game. Crysis runs surprisingly well at 1280x768 with everything at high or very high except for shadows and shaders; I keep those at medium. Fully playable and enjoyable. Really awesome and it suits my general everyday use.
SDI work on windows 2000 as well after installing all the latest updates of course
Ohh snappy seems much faster than what I been using for a lot of years, apparently both use the same driverpacks! Nice!
So how fast is that system in XP 😱
I had WinXP installed on an HP z800 dual xeon 12-core, 24-thread workstation with 48gb ram. HP provides drivers.
e5 RIGHT ???
AHCI is fully compatible with Win XP? Because some games with securom got error about virtual dvd and can't run . On IDE Enhanced is everything ok with this games. I have Asus P5Q Pro with P45 chipset.
I've heard in a Extreme Overclocker Video that they still use WinXP even on Threadripper, to bench it.
Thank you for all your content. I'm especially enjoying your Win XP videos.
I'm wondering if your easy2boot and snappydriver install process will work for laptops as well?
Do you happen to have any videos of Win XP retro gaming on a laptop?
Yes they will work for laptops! I don't work with laptops on the channel though.
i managed to install xp the old fashion way just by setting the ahci to ide mode. just remember that after the install reboots your system you have to select the hard drive instead of the optical drive or your setup process will get you in a loop; when installing windows xp it does not automatically create the Windows Boot Manager option in the boot options and sets it as the first boot device.
mobo is an asrock h81m-dg4, sk 1150, haswell
thanks for the video, i will try snappy driver installer for the audio driver and usb, i don't need ethernet as i don't recommend connecting an xp machine to the internet these days
I use Driver Booster by Iobit, works fine, actually better than Windows auto update.
hint: Windows XP driver support every hardware released before the year 2014 :3 in 2013 there was allrdy some quiet powerful hardware, so xp is still very good today if you build a high end setup.
My XP setup (in IDE mode)
- CPU: E3-1220 v3 (4C/4T, No iGPU, Full 8MB of L3 cache)
- GPU: GTX 750 1GB
- RAM: Crucial DDR3 1600 (2x2gb) (XMP=8-8-8-24-128-CR1)
- MBD: ASUS B85 Trooper
- SSD: Intel X25-E 64GB SLC (with 10.2GB unallocated space)
- HDD: WD Gold 2TB (512n)
Very nice :D Like that Xeon, we will be looking at something similar soon :D
No dissing on the Miata, Samantha!
Nice and very interesting video, I always thought that in order to install XP on Haswell boards you should put drives in IDE/Legacy mode but your method is excellent :)
Btw do you think this could work on Skylake and newer ? (or even AMD Ryzen) ? :)
I don't have anything that modern. The systems shown IS my most powerful :D
@@philscomputerlab Ok no problem :) So I'll try that myself (both ryzen and intel 6th gen) and tell you just below dude ;)
I'll also try with an SSD where XP is already installed, I hope I'll get no BSOD :p
@@kami4542 How did it go?
I run Debian Linux on my Haswell CPU. It is totally supported. My RAM is slower with XMP. Have you benchmarked yours?
Fastest PC I had XP on was my Q9400 one with GT 250 1gb card.
If anyone is interested, the ASUS B85M-G also has Windows XP drivers.
Awesome, good to know, thank you ☺️
Might well come in useful sometime for my 32GB i7-4790K / Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK (v1.0) / 2x4GB GTX 960 SLI based build. Fingers crossed it works on a more recent motherboard than H81 though.
My best bit of trickery lately was getting Dos 6.22 + Windows 3.11 installed onto and booting from my old 2GB Sandisk USB flash drive. Boots and runs on a 875k lynnfield, an Athlon II 645, an Athlon 4200+ and a core 2 duo laptop.
Those OS run on anything really, but getting working sound and 3D acceleration, that is the challenge. If you have a parallel port at least you get get decent FM, but not much more than that.
I've installed msdos 6.22 and win3.1 in a 8gb usb flashdrive, in a haswell laptop (i7 4500u and radeon 8850m witj 8gb ddr3l ram).
Usually it can't read all that memory, but i done some trickery with dos extenders wich made it adress some megs somehow. Win3.1installed and worked. But freedos worked flawlesslly, with everything i tested. Msdos wouldnt allow me to run most programs due to not adressing memory propperly
@@philscomputerlab Yes driver support for anything even old school these days is non existent in those, to be fair the driver support was always kind of hit or miss even with period correct stuff. Not too bad to get it booting off USB either but things like windows 95 installed to USB is a fun time did that a couple times before i got a spare small drive to put those older OS releases onto.
@@philscomputerlab can't you get some support using a fast system with PCI slots, or cards that are that old won't work properly in the latest systems that still had PCI?
I'm still rocking my Haswell i7
i'm upgrading to one from an AMD FX 8350
This video is linked on the Easy2Boot website now. I thought the video title "Install Windows XP on Haswell with E2B" sounded familiar
You've mentioned in the past that XP seems to prefer a strong dual core as opposed to quads or duals with HT. Would something like a Pentium G3258 work just as well for this application, or do you think the i7 gives noticeably better performance?
Absolutely! A fast dual core is just as fast in XP era games :)
I have a G3258 oc'd to 4ghz for now scored 100k on 3dmark 2001 with a 6850. i'm pretty sure i am gpu limited. i dont have any new gpus to try
@@y4si0 I'll back you up on this. Passmark and similar sites like UserBenchmark and CPUBoss are dismissed because people desire game-specific benchmarks, but that's impractical when considering years worth of CPUs (or GPUs). Many of them are never benchmarked at all, like the cheap E3 Xeons that most motherboards take but don't advertise. Passmark is a valuable resource when you consider that results have a bit of play and that, as you said, when you consider singe-thread and total performance in tandem.
Aren't there some Windows XP games that need four cores/threads, though?
Anything like snappy driver installer for win95/98?
can we add usb 3.0 before installation on a AIO with i5 6th gen with only usb 3.0 controller? The fact is keyboard/mouse is not recognized in this case and impossible to configure XP when installer is launched
Great!
@PhilsComputerLab Easy2Boot now has snappy driver installer also!
INSTALLATION DONE WITH EASY 2 BOOT BUT WINDOWS NOT BOOT ONLY 1ST SCREEN COME THAN SYSTEM RESTART IN ASUS H81M-CS & ASROCK H81M-HDS & INTEL XEON E3 1246-V3 PROCESSOR USING PLEASE TELL ME ANY TIPS PLEASE HELP ME THANK IN ADVANCE
I used to love playing need for speed underground
Hi Phil, Have you experienced any issues with the Haswell (1150 platform) regarding Win XP and games ?
I have a HTPC where I use a Broadwell i5-5675C (also socket 1150) which has the superb onboard Iris Pro 6200 iGPU. I am tempted to try this as an XP Gaming rig. Should be able to handle all XP games at max settings if I can get it to work (besides Crysis) :)
Graphics driver is going to the issue I think. You might have to use a dedicated GPU...
I am trying to follow the instructions for Easy2Boot, it’s able to load the ISO into memory but it hangs once complete without getting to the “SPACEBAR=Pause, ENTER=Start now” part.
Does this also work for SKylake and or Kabylake????
Support for Windows XP has been discontinued and I don't know if it is still possible to activate Windows XP Pro now.
Sometimes use windows xp on my main rig which consists of xeon e5 1650 (which is xeon of i7 3930k), asus p9x79 deluxe, 4x4gb ram, gtx 780 ti oc, 80gb old hdd.
I'm still waiting for the XP hand me downs, when it arrives.
I need some help! You may not know this and it's okay if you don't respond but I am having some trouble installing Windows 10/7 on my Dell XPS 630i, the system originally came with windows Vista but I can't get it working it stops at completing installation and it doesn't continue oddly enough windows 8.1 is the only OS I can get working, which is weird, but do you have any ideas?
Interesante tal vez le de uso a un celeron g1840 que tengo guardado. Gracias Phil
Hey Phil, will this work on h97 boards or only on h81?
Good tip with that snappy driver utility. I was usiing driverpack solution but now it's full of adware and it tries to install other software besides the drivers, software you usually don't want
I'm curious if you use a game controller for those racing games, or if you just use the keyboard? I always hated racing games until I bought an Xbox360 controller for my PC, now I feel like I really missed out on some really cool games back in the day!
Keyboard and mouse! I actually bought that PC Xbox 360 controller. I don't think I've used it yet LOL.
@@philscomputerlab I do recommend the controller for racing games. Takes a little getting used to at first, but the analogue controls are definitely worth it. (:
I accidentally shut off my machine before I installed the drivers. Do I have to start over now?
Also, Snappy Driver Installer _ORIGIN_ is a better choice for the driver part
Hey I used this on modern hardware but why does any tab I move it flickers
Amazing. Maybe if Windows 7 ever becomes retro you can figure out how to get Ryzen working on it because I sure haven't been able to so far.
ryzen and intel and are really easy to get working. check out several videos here on youtube.
Is there a similar application but for searching drivers for Windows ME and earlier?
Outstanding video! Have you ever tried this method with a Z97 motherboard?
Did you leave all cores running, or killed it down to 1/2 like you udually do....?
Can you install Windows XP, or Windows 7 at least on a Coffee Lake motherboard with an Intel i7?
I don't have anything that modern!
Sure would be cool if the tool could torrent just the specific drivers you need and download them for you during the install. I wonder if that's possible.
Gtx 750 ti still rock
Hmmm I can't get most of the drivers to install on my new Windows XP install with Snappy Drivers, it's on an HP Z230 SFF with an i7-4790 pretty much the same system as an HP G1 800 so it should work.. I get the following message.. I managed to install an old chipset driver manually but I'm struggling with the rest.
"The procedure entry point RegDeleteTreeA could not be located in the dynamic link library ADVAPI32.dll "
So I found the solution, there was an error with the Snappy Drivers database trying to install chipsets for a later system, I had to find an old version of Snappy Drivers Origin and it all worked well... very annoying error.. I spent all day trying to sort it..
I have gt 760 it gets nosy when play high end games
Which ISO would you suggest for an XP build?
Would you be able to compare windows xp vs windows vista performance on haswell system? Vista would give directX 10 support and would basically make it the optimal crysis system before windows 7 that caused several bugs in crysis.
What bugs in Crysis?
@@philscomputerlab I remember watching a video some time ago that brought up crysis bugs in newer operating systems like missing landmass reflections on water and flickering vegetation.
I have Crysis (steam version) running on windows 10 just fine and don't have any bugs. i7 4770 on GTX 1070, 16Gb.
Can you install from the cd also?
Is there a version of this for Win 98, I thought there was, but I can't find it. :)
I just burned the Windows XP ISO onto a CD since i have a lot of IDE and SATA Drives
E2B already includes Snappy Driver Installer Origin at \_ISO\Windows\installs\SNAPPY. You can run it and update it from there. It is used by the SDI_CHOCO unattend install process which E2B uses to do unattended installs of Windows 7/8/10 with drivers + apps + Windows updates (fully automated).
www.easy2boot.com/add-payload-files/windows-install-isos/sdi-choco/
I'm not sure what this is, but Snappy Driver Installer is like a 17GB download. Just run it from a USB device, you can copy it on the Easy2Boot stick if you want, but I use a USB HDD with all sorts of other stuff on it that I use for my projects.
I have the exact same motherboard! what are the chances?
Ive used Easy2Boot for years for many functions, Do you keep Snappy Driver on the same USB drive...doing that defrag into a contiguous file Easy2boot has to do?
Snappy Driver is like 15GB, so I put it on a USB Hard Drive with other project files.
I have old p1 Pentium system how install windows xp or windows me old all BIOS update IDE supposed only how USB how to install on system!!!
can someone please link winXP iso because i cant find it and i keep finding exe's no iso's
Great video, and here i am upgrading from an AMD FX 8350 to a Core i7 4790k, btw i have a i7 4790k and not tha S version, is there a performance difference between them?
also my AsRock Z97 Anniversary board i got for free has a PCI-E 16x slot issue where it doesn't read tha GPU at all but reads tha integrated graphics just fine. should i flash tha bios? i'm scared to do it tho, oh and i have MSI Z97-S01 which i just purchased in new condition for $96 USD just in case. should i flash & update my bios on y AsRock Z97 now and see if tha PCI-E 16x slot would work, or should i wait for my MSI Z97 come in?
So with the letters, K have unlocked multipliers, S are lower TDP and T are even lower TDP. There might also be other differences with clock speeds and other features.
@@philscomputerlab ah i see. thanks for tellin' me! 4 moths ago, i got tha i7 4790k for around $235 USD in new condition which i won tha bid on and i was tha only bidder which it's pretty rare, well it was $225 USD with about a $10 USD shipping, so i think i got a good deal out of it considering it was still in new condition and almost untouched. i'm happy to have it now :)
I got Windows XP to run on my Haswell machine using Norton Ghost and Wandrv driver pack
i get a bluescreen saying the bios is not fully acpi compliant on the second step
When prompted by XP Setup to press F6, try pressing F5 (or F7) quickly. Sometimes you can work around this error, but sometimes it just crashes later on...
Where do I get the ISO & how do I activate XP without going online?