Honestly awesome to watch, I own a bone stock TM G18c so this is kinda helping me decide if I should attempt to do anything to that or just grab the NOV. Still torn though because I have absolute terrible luck at disassembling small things, I always end up loosing a small piece or bending something wrong.
Great video answers all my questions I have the cyma 125/usp clone I have a new cylinder, spring and tapit plate on the way from Eagle 6 I can't wait to see what this is really capable of. Keep up the good work
There is a gen 5 by the shop you briefly showed and it's even better, It has better bearings, gears a programmable ETU with microswitch trigger, it already comes with an 11.1v lipo and can be pre- upgraded with a 50k motor for absurd firerate. It has ~230 fps and can be gotten to ~300fps with the eagle6 spring because of perfect airseal.
you got a subscribe from me, would love to see the breakdown of your usp. I've had abit of trouble with gas pistols, and im quite tired of them, escpecially when you live in the cold north and play during the winter. gas isnt very reliable, so im thinking of investing in an aep
Awesome video lots of wisdom about AEP's happy I found this looking into them. Never really got into them thinking they were kinda low quality in general. Getting a little more niche through the years and this is really insightful. I would put the extended mag in though sir lol. Love the m14 as well, one may get me away from my vsr-10 one day.
that is a beautiful m14 indeed. wish getting to the gearbox was easier... and they made one with a quick change spring so that closing up the gearbox was easier...
Sweet video although few more notes on teardown procedure would have been nice for anyone wanting a go. Bit gutted you didn't try the 3s lipo on the original spring too, seems shame not to know how effective just the spring is being.
Thanks Dude! Yes, on the USP - had a couple of failures - a very high wattage iron is what's needed - high heat, low time - hasn't moved in several years now.
I found this by accident but i decided to upgrade my SSE18 just today and ordered a (hopefully fitting)11.1v lipo and a gunfet microfet. It performed quite disappointing in its stock state sometimes taking really long to wind up. I read somewhere that the standard cyma mosfet is switching quite slow and the new one will increase the response time.
@@shadowvein885 Yes and no. the 11.1v lipo is faster but it also overwinds the motor leading to shots after letting go of the trigger. additionally, it really doesnt sound very good for the gun. I would not install a 11.1v lipo. For the mosfet part: i think i broke it while soldering, it would just fire when connection a battery. i will try with another one soon. The fps are not affected
@@bbsp_airsoft hm, okay maybe some shimming could tighten a bit more the gears and bringing the force better to the piston which could reduce the winding time
It's finally on stock and he had some new color but the price is a little higher (119) I ordered mine and your video confort my choice. I find its look better than the cyma If you always search à new motor or part begadi has some exclusive upgrade part like hop rubber hop arms and motor. Its probably made by chihai like her aeg motor
Hello, can you send me a link to this gun holster you are showing? And I would also like to clarify if by changing the spring you can increase the power to 350 fps?
Hey, I just had a wingun crap out on me. I was considering the Umarex USP aep. But wanted to upgrade it to be at least 250 fps reliable and have a thread adapter to put a little tracer on it. Have you done this before? And would you recommend it for outdoor cqb? I want a sidearm or small weapon that can be carried while I'm using a sniper as a primary. And can substitute as a primary for short to medium engagement scenarios. What would you pick?
Hi could you make a vid on assebling of this gun, i took trigger apart completly, and im having troubles putting it back together, and there is no tutorial on that on novritch page
Do you sell any of these upgraded AEPs. Been looking for a nice AEP for my CQB loadout. But want to also run an external hardwire, like you would with a HPA. To an external larger 11v Lipo on a bungie rig. And if that went well. To get 2 of them as an akimbo build.
Hi - I don't think you need to these days. You'll get a big enough 11.1 LiPo in a USP or a M9/M92 that will last you all day easily. I know Nov shows an old G18c with an external battery but its years old. No, sorry - I don't make them to sell - I'm just an enthusiast
They're OK but you really need to upgrade/change the motor to get the best out of it. A larger capacity 11.1v LiPo will also help (as it can draw more current)
@@theairsoftveteran6427 thank you for your respone. Do you also recommend replacing the hopup rubber with the one from Begadi? I would like to order all parts there :)
@@badzpowazny8172 I'm not sure it requires a different hop rubber - as it's realtively low powered it doesn't take much to hop a 0.25g bb - which the stock hop rubber does adequately. I would say it depends on the cost - it it's inexpensive then why not - you could always swap it back if you're not getting the performance you want. I've found Begadi excellent - they are one of the largest retailers in Europe and certainly in Germany - think Evike for the EU!
Great review and honest thoughts! I have an MK23 secondary for sniper, but looking to get something full auto. Just wondering would you recommend the SSE18 over a micro-SMG like the Tokoyo Mariu MP5K high cycle?
I'd always recommend a Marui over a CYMA. The MP5K has a full size gearbox (I believe) so I would say is more of a CQB gun, rather than a secondary. A good choice if you have a sling solution and know that you're going to transition to it. Lousy for one handed operation and if you need to transition quickly. The MP7 is an AEP gearbox but has the same considerations as above. Personally I'd stick to a large frame AEP in a pistol format (USP, M93R, M92).
Went with the SSE18 and very impressed so far! It just works and is a bit more wieldly than the Mk23 in fast draw situations, particularly with a single stage trigger. I know it will never be as silent as the Mk23 (and that’s fine, it’s not hugely loud anyway), but just wondering any thoughts on reducing the noise signature (or making it more of a dull thud than a ‘braaat’? I’ve tried different hand positions and it seems the majority of noise is coming from the grip where the gear box is. Wondering about installing foam/rubber panels internally? I’m pretty adapt with tuning spring guns/VSRs, but new to AEG/AEPs. Thoughts or advice?
@@rdb9936 Try a cut bicycle inner tube round the grip - that will soften the gear noise. Also helps with grip - the plastic is quite slippery. That's about all you can do - you'll always have the noise of the piston hitting the cylinder head. Anything more turns in to an exercise in frustration and wasted time (ask me how I know). Suppressors and/or longer barrels make no practicable difference.
@@theairsoftveteran6427 Thanks! The suppressor helped a bit actually - changed the sound signature to be more of a dull sound and quietened it a bit. I already have some Jack Pyke tape around the grip, but will try putting some rubber/inner tube round or something. I know it’s never going to be completely silent, so cba to shim gears etc for maximal gains like you say. I spent enough time tweaking my VSR to perfection, I just want a reliable side arm and SSE18 seems to be that - just looking for some quick easy fixes to quieten/dampen it a bit. Will try the inner tube - thanks for the advice!
I just had a weird moment of curiosity. And wanted to know what the inside of an aep looked like, and it is so weird. I'm only used to working on aeg m4, and Gbbp's so this is foreign territory for me. I don't own one but seems neat
No special tool but it is fiddly! With one hand you need to press the components in to the frame while the other compresses the spring. It does take some effort along with the risk of everything sproinging out the chassis...
@@deweywilliams7247 OK - I'm assuming you haven't upgraded the spring yet. If so, the higher voltage battery is overspining the gears. The solution is to put the bigger spring in - this will slow the gearbox down and prevent the over spin. Hope that's useful.
The link is from Begadi - I believe the largest airsoft retailer in Germany. They're all just skinned so any CYMA AEP Glock will likely be the same - it may very well be that specific model is not retailed in the UK. Of course, never used to be an issue before Brexit - could have simply ordered it from the EU....
Yeah, really hard to find. Batteries go in and out of stock really quickly so difficult to recommend something specific. What I did was get the exact dimensions of the space your have avialable and the do some google-fu until you find one the correct dimensions. It can take a bit of time - I have Amazon and Ebay the best as often the precise dimensions are listed there. Hope that helps!
@@theairsoftveteran6427 seems to be plenty on the market. Amazon and hobbyking. Are you familiar with what the gear reduction ratio is? Seems like an old design that might be able to be cleaned up and simplified.
@@theairsoftveteran6427 I don't know if you're still in the sport, but Kingdom of Airsoft recently released (almost) drop in brushless motors for AEPs and CMGs
Changing the gen 2 mosfet into this thing made a huge difference to mine. Not only it now works under 10C but the trigger response is almost gbb level
Honestly awesome to watch, I own a bone stock TM G18c so this is kinda helping me decide if I should attempt to do anything to that or just grab the NOV. Still torn though because I have absolute terrible luck at disassembling small things, I always end up loosing a small piece or bending something wrong.
Great info for the AEP noon like me. I wish you made more videos for YT. Great knowledge.
Great video answers all my questions I have the cyma 125/usp clone I have a new cylinder, spring and tapit plate on the way from Eagle 6 I can't wait to see what this is really capable of. Keep up the good work
There is a gen 5 by the shop you briefly showed and it's even better, It has better bearings, gears a programmable ETU with microswitch trigger, it already comes with an 11.1v lipo and can be pre- upgraded with a 50k motor for absurd firerate. It has ~230 fps and can be gotten to ~300fps with the eagle6 spring because of perfect airseal.
you got a subscribe from me, would love to see the breakdown of your usp.
I've had abit of trouble with gas pistols, and im quite tired of them, escpecially when you live in the cold north and play during the winter. gas isnt very reliable, so im thinking of investing in an aep
Awesome video lots of wisdom about AEP's happy I found this looking into them. Never really got into them thinking they were kinda low quality in general. Getting a little more niche through the years and this is really insightful. I would put the extended mag in though sir lol. Love the m14 as well, one may get me away from my vsr-10 one day.
This is great, would love to see more vids like this on various guns
that is a beautiful m14 indeed. wish getting to the gearbox was easier... and they made one with a quick change spring so that closing up the gearbox was easier...
Hey Mate I Just bought it, my First Airsoft and i Love it. Btw more Videos would be a dream keep it up
Sweet video although few more notes on teardown procedure would have been nice for anyone wanting a go.
Bit gutted you didn't try the 3s lipo on the original spring too, seems shame not to know how effective just the spring is being.
Nice video!
Did you solder the pinion gear on the 370 motor shaft?
Thanks Dude! Yes, on the USP - had a couple of failures - a very high wattage iron is what's needed - high heat, low time - hasn't moved in several years now.
I just got the 6mmproshop sai blu aep and on the box says made by cyma but is essentially the sse18
dualcode M4 800MaH battery and eagle6 M80 spring, all you need to better than this, 240fps and decent rate of fire, i own the same gun as you.
I found this by accident but i decided to upgrade my SSE18 just today and ordered a (hopefully fitting)11.1v lipo and a gunfet microfet. It performed quite disappointing in its stock state sometimes taking really long to wind up. I read somewhere that the standard cyma mosfet is switching quite slow and the new one will increase the response time.
Did the wind up issue already go away by just switching from 7.4v to 11.1v? Also did your fps change( really important, cause of my country's law)
@@shadowvein885 Yes and no. the 11.1v lipo is faster but it also overwinds the motor leading to shots after letting go of the trigger. additionally, it really doesnt sound very good for the gun. I would not install a 11.1v lipo. For the mosfet part: i think i broke it while soldering, it would just fire when connection a battery. i will try with another one soon. The fps are not affected
@@bbsp_airsoft hm, okay maybe some shimming could tighten a bit more the gears and bringing the force better to the piston which could reduce the winding time
great video I'm definitely doing the mods to my sse18 once I get It also what is the name of the light you have put on ???
It's finally on stock and he had some new color but the price is a little higher (119)
I ordered mine and your video confort my choice. I find its look better than the cyma
If you always search à new motor or part begadi has some exclusive upgrade part like hop rubber hop arms and motor.
Its probably made by chihai like her aeg motor
Hey nice review, you have inspired me to not need GBB
Hello, can you send me a link to this gun holster you are showing? And I would also like to clarify if by changing the spring you can increase the power to 350 fps?
Hey, I just had a wingun crap out on me. I was considering the Umarex USP aep. But wanted to upgrade it to be at least 250 fps reliable and have a thread adapter to put a little tracer on it. Have you done this before? And would you recommend it for outdoor cqb? I want a sidearm or small weapon that can be carried while I'm using a sniper as a primary. And can substitute as a primary for short to medium engagement scenarios. What would you pick?
Hi could you make a vid on assebling of this gun, i took trigger apart completly, and im having troubles putting it back together, and there is no tutorial on that on novritch page
Do you sell any of these upgraded AEPs. Been looking for a nice AEP for my CQB loadout. But want to also run an external hardwire, like you would with a HPA. To an external larger 11v Lipo on a bungie rig.
And if that went well. To get 2 of them as an akimbo build.
Hi - I don't think you need to these days. You'll get a big enough 11.1 LiPo in a USP or a M9/M92 that will last you all day easily. I know Nov shows an old G18c with an external battery but its years old. No, sorry - I don't make them to sell - I'm just an enthusiast
Great review! What about double shots in semi mode with 11.1?
They're OK but you really need to upgrade/change the motor to get the best out of it. A larger capacity 11.1v LiPo will also help (as it can draw more current)
@@theairsoftveteran6427 thank you for your respone. Do you also recommend replacing the hopup rubber with the one from Begadi? I would like to order all parts there :)
@@badzpowazny8172 I'm not sure it requires a different hop rubber - as it's realtively low powered it doesn't take much to hop a 0.25g bb - which the stock hop rubber does adequately. I would say it depends on the cost - it it's inexpensive then why not - you could always swap it back if you're not getting the performance you want.
I've found Begadi excellent - they are one of the largest retailers in Europe and certainly in Germany - think Evike for the EU!
Great review and honest thoughts! I have an MK23 secondary for sniper, but looking to get something full auto. Just wondering would you recommend the SSE18 over a micro-SMG like the Tokoyo Mariu MP5K high cycle?
I'd always recommend a Marui over a CYMA. The MP5K has a full size gearbox (I believe) so I would say is more of a CQB gun, rather than a secondary. A good choice if you have a sling solution and know that you're going to transition to it. Lousy for one handed operation and if you need to transition quickly.
The MP7 is an AEP gearbox but has the same considerations as above. Personally I'd stick to a large frame AEP in a pistol format (USP, M93R, M92).
Went with the SSE18 and very impressed so far! It just works and is a bit more wieldly than the Mk23 in fast draw situations, particularly with a single stage trigger. I know it will never be as silent as the Mk23 (and that’s fine, it’s not hugely loud anyway), but just wondering any thoughts on reducing the noise signature (or making it more of a dull thud than a ‘braaat’? I’ve tried different hand positions and it seems the majority of noise is coming from the grip where the gear box is. Wondering about installing foam/rubber panels internally? I’m pretty adapt with tuning spring guns/VSRs, but new to AEG/AEPs. Thoughts or advice?
@@rdb9936 Try a cut bicycle inner tube round the grip - that will soften the gear noise. Also helps with grip - the plastic is quite slippery. That's about all you can do - you'll always have the noise of the piston hitting the cylinder head. Anything more turns in to an exercise in frustration and wasted time (ask me how I know). Suppressors and/or longer barrels make no practicable difference.
@@theairsoftveteran6427 Thanks! The suppressor helped a bit actually - changed the sound signature to be more of a dull sound and quietened it a bit. I already have some Jack Pyke tape around the grip, but will try putting some rubber/inner tube round or something. I know it’s never going to be completely silent, so cba to shim gears etc for maximal gains like you say. I spent enough time tweaking my VSR to perfection, I just want a reliable side arm and SSE18 seems to be that - just looking for some quick easy fixes to quieten/dampen it a bit. Will try the inner tube - thanks for the advice!
I just had a weird moment of curiosity. And wanted to know what the inside of an aep looked like, and it is so weird. I'm only used to working on aeg m4, and Gbbp's so this is foreign territory for me. I don't own one but seems neat
Would it run it using the stock motor instead of the mauri? im trying to get as much performance out of it for as cheap as possible.
The motor adjustment on the bottom of the mag.. what do u do w it??😊
how did you get the M80 to fit? Did you like just press really hard or use a special tool to hold it in place?
No special tool but it is fiddly! With one hand you need to press the components in to the frame while the other compresses the spring. It does take some effort along with the risk of everything sproinging out the chassis...
The M80 spring would not fit when I added it. It would like jump out of the gearbox
Hey, my girlfriend ordered me this pistol and I'm excited. Could you send me the links to the parts you are running?
What's the name of the 11.1v battery you used?
I'd pay another $50 if it came out the box like this...
Really can’t find a 11.1v battery that fits, can anyone help with a link for one?
Do you think I could pay you to possibly mod my sse18
When you upgraded the battery to the 11.4 did you have a problem with the gun wanting to shoot auto in single?
No. Are you having this problem (I know why you would have this problem and what the solution is)?
@@michaelclements8360 yes
@@deweywilliams7247 OK - I'm assuming you haven't upgraded the spring yet. If so, the higher voltage battery is overspining the gears. The solution is to put the bigger spring in - this will slow the gearbox down and prevent the over spin. Hope that's useful.
@@michaelclements8360 ok that makes since I have a bigger spring to put in it. I did the battery first since it was easiest lol
@@michaelclements8360 what spring did you go with?
Where did you get the link to the CM131? I can’t find anywhere in the U.K. that sells them!
The link is from Begadi - I believe the largest airsoft retailer in Germany. They're all just skinned so any CYMA AEP Glock will likely be the same - it may very well be that specific model is not retailed in the UK. Of course, never used to be an issue before Brexit - could have simply ordered it from the EU....
Mine only shoots at +- 150 fps , any1 knows how i can fix this ? It's a gen2 as well
Hi , can you post link for battery that you used ?
Where did you get slide?
what battery is is and where did you get it. cant seem to find any
Yeah, really hard to find. Batteries go in and out of stock really quickly so difficult to recommend something specific. What I did was get the exact dimensions of the space your have avialable and the do some google-fu until you find one the correct dimensions. It can take a bit of time - I have Amazon and Ebay the best as often the precise dimensions are listed there. Hope that helps!
Update?
Why not choose brushless?
Couldn't find one in a 380 form factor - would be interested in where to get one if you know...
@@theairsoftveteran6427 seems to be plenty on the market. Amazon and hobbyking. Are you familiar with what the gear reduction ratio is? Seems like an old design that might be able to be cleaned up and simplified.
@@David_Mash Yes, it really is old tech. I can't check the gear reduction from where I am now as I don't have access to my workshop.
@@theairsoftveteran6427 hobby/rc motors have advanced so much in the last 5 years alone, I would think one could nearly achieve direct drive
@@theairsoftveteran6427 I don't know if you're still in the sport, but Kingdom of Airsoft recently released (almost) drop in brushless motors for AEPs and CMGs
can i have to motor link
I will admit electric is effective, but it is not as sexy as GBBR.
Completely agree!