The dog in the thumbnail is Jarvis from TrainedandMaintained, a genuine, highly trained medical alert and mobility dog. Using his picture is uneducated and rude, they did not give permission please remove it, it's unfair to their company and people who get dogs from them.
Let's Talk Living AHHH I SAID ALICE IS IT ALICE OR JARVIS????? NOW IK SO CONFUSED THEY ALL NEED TK BE DYED LIKE OLAF BUT DIFFERENT COLORS SO WE KNOW WHUCH IS WHICH😂
Yep! That made me mad because they need to actually learn about each dog before they assume it's fake. Some videos you'll be able to tell if the dog is fake or not. But the poodle isn't fake! I know she's not fake! Personally I wouldn't put that gear on my service dog because I don't want to draw attention to myself and Esme and want people to just let us shop! Lol :)
Ray Mahlberg I have seen the dog in action and the program has it in the outfit because they train in Disney and other amusement parks and want the dogs to not be intimidating to kids, also that picture was for their shop.
They never said that dog wasn't, they just insinuated that the owners had it dressed in a way that may detract from its job, hence 'unprofessional.' I think it should be fine to dress them up, but they technically didn't say it wasn't a service dog.
that trainer has since been banned from disney. Her dogs are ESA not legit SD. She's nothing but a scam artist. There are some shocking posts, photos and videos that have turned up of this 'woman' and her dogs. I'm honestly surprised the parents of the victims have not sued. Or at least publicly smeared her through the media. I know I sure as hell would.
In those 19 states, We still need to raise recognition in the other states that have not passed the law yet. I'm doing that in my home state of Massachusetts.
Kari Olson I sincerely hope that you learn how to mind your own business. This is America. You told have the right to tell me I can't have my dog in public.
So dogs are not allowed in grocery stores. Regardless if it in the cart or not. Its extremely unsanitary. Service dogs however are an exception. As someone who works in a grocery store it pisses me off beyond belief when I see EXTREMELY OBVIOUS fake service dogs. One of my breaking points was when a little Chihuahua "service dog" pooped in our produce section. 1.The owner saw it, left it and went to check out. 2. Customers put the blame on the store not the onwer. 3. I had to clean it up myself. And the worst part is legally, we are not allowed to ask if the service dog is fake or legit. I think they can sue for accusation or something.
You are allowed to ask, not pester. "Is this a trained service dog? If yes, what task or service do they provide?" If they give a legit answer, not emotional support, then you say ok and leave them be. If the dog betrays the lie by acting out, then you may ask them to leave
Thrackerzod the fandom nerd If it were up to me I would, the management Im under, wont let me approach them at all. But I do truely appreciate your reply, thank you.
Main Street Boxer it is not the OP fault. He didn't bring a fake service dog into the store. The problem with people nowadays is putting the blame where it doesn't belong qnd you my friend are an enabler of that!
when a business does not allow animals, they have the right to ask two questions. 'is that a trained service dog?' and 'what function does the dog serve for you' creating a registry that covers those two questions isn't an invasion of privacy. it's necessary to keep everyone safe (both abled and disabled people)
There are ones that don't, actually. Even if legally they can, but if corporate says you can't ask, the employees are powerless. For example, a retail store I worked for actually had a section specifically in the employee training outlining that clerks and floor workers CANNOT ask, regardless of how obvious it was that the animal was not trained for the task. The only people remotely allowed were managers, and even then, if the customer complained, the manager could get in trouble. We literally were told to ignore the dog or animal was there at all. So yeah, we had the rule of "No pets allowed" but since obviously service animals were the exception, literally anyone could bring in a pet, claim it was for anything such as "emotional support" and the employees can't do a damn thing about it. If other customers complained, no one can do anything without being reprimanded. It's kind of the issue with retail in many aspects, having rules set by the store, but if an employee asks a customer not to break a rule, that employee gets in trouble if that customer complains (even if the employee was 100% doing their job correctly), but that's a slightly different topic.
So, what happens when a person with a fake service dog works on a assembly line? I'm sure they have to leave their dogs home for that or any other jobs as well....this is gotten to be an accesory that people think they have to have. Sorry, I actually could get a service dog, but I don't think it's that necessary.
Technically it’s not legal to ask what function the dog performs, as disclosing disability is not a requirement. While I have no problem with disclosing my own disability, some feel uncomfortable with it and it can be considered an infringement on their right to privacy and intruding on medical history. For me, I have severe anxiety and PTSD caused by years of abuse along with a portion of my hip missing due to an accident. I’m in the process of acquiring a fully trained psychological service dog to provide pressure therapy and retrieve medications and water when having a panic attack or help push my wheelchair or open doors when I need it due to pain. But even when I’m in my wheelchair I get dirty looks, I’m not looking forward to getting them when I get my service dog too 😰
ToraToraTiger Actually, in some states like California, it is allowed to ask what service the animal provides. It's up to the owner to disclose or withhold as much information as they're comfortable with; i.e. the owner could say, "The dog detects blood sugar," or "is trained to identify seizures" instead of "I have diabetes and he helps when I have a blood sugar spike" or "he keeps me safe when my epilepsy gets triggered." Keeping the question focused on the animal's capabilities takes the human's disability out of the equation and gives them the power and agency to keep their privacy.
ToraToraTiger you are wrong. The ADA website under the FAQ section allows you to ask only 2 specific questions; Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability and What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?
imissmydog PJ The dog is simply modeling the outfit, which is for sale to support the nonprofit. The reporter stole the picture off the Instagram without fact checking. However, the outfit has nothing to do with the dog's training. That dog has potentially saved 18 lives by alerting to cancer (confirmed diagnoses). He is a trained medical alert dog. Who wears silly clothes. It's just not that big a deal.
That outfit makes sense in the light of it being a cancer detecting dog. I imagine I might feel a "little" better about this particular dog showing interest in me (oh my god! I have cancer?) if she is dressed cute.
A way to tell if a service dog is real: the owner will not let you bother it and will tell you it is working Edit: Ok, please stop getting triggered. Fully trained service dogs will not let you bother it unless the owner permits it to, so yes, dogs in training might have a hard time. But even a dog in training's master will tell you that it is working and training to be a service dog. Some people will also tell you you can interact with it if there is no current task for it, but in general, fully trained service dogs will not let you bother it.
not always. if im not in danger and my dog says im ok for the moment and im not in a rush or busy. im ok with them getting some attention if they ask. if they dont i correct them on the matter. i feel my dog should get the attention because i like to keep her well socialized with human contact. its a preference. yes it is a distraction but i use it as training to get her out of the distraction too
I had something like that happen to me at my job FluffCat. I was working in the back of my local RadioShack(I miss working for this company) and a kid and his mom walked in and behind them a man and his service dog. While they were shopping around. The boy started walking around on his own. Then I all of a sudden I hear from the man with the service. "No. Don't touch him. He's working, he might bite you." I turn around the little boy was mere inches from touching the dog from behind. When the dog did turn around after the owner said something. The dog growled a little bit. But that was it. The Mom did absolutely nothing to scold her child. She kept shopping. I was like "Seriously lady? Your not gonna scold your kid? Or even turn around? Or even better yet keep him next to you?"
As a person who is going blind due to Macular Degeneration I will need a service dog at some point. I think we need to solve the problem of fake service dogs/pets. If the best way to do that is with extreme ticketing and/or jail time, just do it. People in our Country think the basic rules just don’t apply to them! And this is another way of being ENTITLED! We need to stop thinking we are all so Special! No one is better than another! Where has respect for each other disappeared to? I truly worry for our Children and our future! We need to do better!❤❤❤
It 100% is like that though. It's not about the driving but the parking. People who are in chronic pain need those closer spaces to be able to shop, as they might not be able to walk the distance from a further park, or from public transport. Access to food and services is a right, and disabled parking spots are a medical necessity for many people. Do some research.
Main Street Boxer Trying to call the argument invalid, merely on the account of driving not being a right, is actually a strawman argument that falls flat on its face. Everyone has a right to SOME medicine/medical equipment, not all. Non-disabled individuals do NOT have a right to certain types of medical prescriptions and/or equipment reserved for certain types of injuries/illnesses. While a service dog might be owned by anyone, it is a gross transgression against truly disabled/handicapped individuals for a perfectly able-bodied individual, even ones with minor mental/emotional handicaps, to just have any untrained dog, who barks, gets aggressive against other dogs, and pulls on their owners' leash, donning a service vest and masquerading as an actual service animal. It's a disgrace and an attack against people who are missing limbs, dealing with terminal cancer, or who are war veterans suffering from crippling PTSD. Some of the people who own disobedient dogs, like the ones seen in the video, might be people who have minor aspergers/autism. And while, yes, Aspergers/Autism does require certain resources, a service dog is only for the most severe of that specific mental ailment; ones who absolutely CAN NOT operate in society without one, which is not the case for over 90% of people with mental/emotional disorders (it's not that they *can't,* they *can,* they just *"don't wanna".)*
I used to work at a grocery store, and I would eat my lunch outside. So I can say I've seen my fair share of handicapped spot parkers. Not a single one was handicapped. The best one was a guy in a business suit, climbing down out of a lifted truck. lol
Establish a National Service Dog License and Registry, and ONLY animals with such credentials should be allowed in areas where only service dogs are allowed. Can you imagine the fraudsters at work if Handicapped placards were sold on ebay and not slammed by the Police. Time to put an end to fake service dogs.
Kim Sadly, (though I really wish it was that easy) federal law will always trump state law, and in the federal law it says "No state can require any certificate or tags", So as I wish it was that easy it is not.
Sorry, some states made it possible to make it state law to require service dog registration and tagging by animal control. That is because they don't ask any question relating to the disability. They ask for the dog's task and the legal to ask. So federal law know that some states are requiring this now and they not stopping them because they can ask about the doy's TASKs and not the person's medical history dso it all legal and the federal is allowing it like they allowing FL do think to question an SD Team. If a state passes a law that requires something like service dog registering and tagging by animal control the federal makers did do anything to stop it shows they are allowing because it's not violating federal laws. Hopefully soo all states will pass that all legitimate service dogs need to be registered and tagged by animal control. This will only way to stop the fakes. I heard NT, NJ and few other states are talking about it also state law. Only people that talk against this required state SD law and against this is a service dog faker. Only fake will be against this and don't want because they won't able fake their pets no more as service dogs. You seem so against this I bet you fake a service dog yourself. If really had a SD you would be in support of this real service dog teams support a law requires legitimate service dog be registered and tagged by animal control in their state, As a legitimate SD team I'm a major supporter of this because it protects me and my service dog.
It should be a felony to buy a vest saying service dog, juat to take your dog some where. The vest is to alert people that this dog is to render aid.The owners should get charge as if they were impersonating a cop.
But the Ada allows bussiness to remove the service anmails if they believe it's going to harm other people and they are only allowed two ask two questions one is that a service dog because required of a disablity and what work or task has the dog been able to perform they cannot ask what your disablity is and they cannot ask the dog to do any form of work or task and there is no such thing as certification or idfication for a service dog in the United States
I saw someone in a Wall Mart with a dog that had a vest but it was barking and trying to pull away. There is no way that was a legit service dog. I was very disgusted at the people.
Adarcus yeah i saw one too, but i called the security guard and pointed it out to him. He told the faker to leave. The best thing about this security guard is he had a service dog with him.
Adarcus i saw someone at Walmart with a dog wearing a vest but it was in the cart. And I may be young but I can clearly see the difference between a fake and a real service dog. There are people who actually need their service dog or animal with them
The poodle in the thumb nail and dressed in "an unprofessional manner" is actually a real service dog. Very well trained and mannered. If you look up Trained and Maintain on Facebook you can see that. And sometimes dressing up your service dog can make things a little easier for some people by having fun. Distraction from your disability can help you get through the day. There is no dress code for them so as long as they are well trained it shouldn't matter what they are wearing!
imissmydog PJ Not much can distract my dogs except someone's medical problem, and that's their job. People look at service dogs no matter what they wear.
"Dressed in an unprofessional manner". I could put my dog in a pink tutu, and guess what? It would not inhibit her ability to work after 2 years of intensive training.
The reason behind this rule is to prevent creating a situation that encourages people to want to come up to the dog... Has nothing to do with the dog's behaviour.
In my personal experience fake service dogs are usually dressed in a plain red vest so they look "official", where real handlers tend to decorate there dogs. My service dog in training wears bright, colorful gear and I sometimes dye her fur. Gear does not determine a dog's training.
“When your at Walmart with shades on... you need your service dog” If your wearing shades to pretend your blind your service dog would be a guide dog- there for there would be in a balancing/leading vest and walking to guide you. Not traveling in a cart...
I came across these at a store one time. There was a lil black chihuahua with the service dog outfit and it was barking at everyone at the store who came close. The owner was telling everyone it was normal for him to bark.I was like boi i know what a service dog is when i see it.
Yeah i agree my service dog milo gets dressed as a little police dog, hes a service dog for stress and warns me about low blood sugar and if i need to lay down
Arie & The Prospect Search ... I had no idea that I couldn't go online and certifi ( that's spelled wrong sorry) my pet I was seriously about to go pay like 60 bucks to register her as a ESA 😭 because a lot of places don't allow them and I have seriously horrible anxiety and depression ... I had no idea I was doing something wrong
The problem is that the laws make it hard to confront the obvious fakes. You end up basically having to make someone prove a disability, which is a violation of privacy. It's sad that so many selfish people impose themselves and their untrained dogs on others.
Lauren Serrano if she’s real, the. I’m a millionaire. Her clown dogs bring attention to her that she can’t live without. Seen her at Disney numerous times and others have said she’s fake.
@@WickedlyMe328, yeah I'm not a fan of her, she definitely doesn't really know what she's doing and she doesn't follow the ADA law correctly, but atleast her dogs sort of do something.
How you dress the dog doesn't mean anything. They can wear whatever they want, nothing to a ball gown. Training is the only thing that makes a service dog.
It warns people that your dog is a service dog, imo it should be law that if they are WORKING they need to wear it, because tbh if you have a dog like that and you don't have a vest/whatever.. you're asking for someone to pet your dog or want to come up to you. That is not like a service dog.
Briel Woods I understand what you're saying, I think that wearing a vest or something that marks it as a service dog is a good idea, but at the same time it's still a handlers choice. Firstly sometimes when you're disabled putting on a vest can be difficult, you might be really weak that day or your dexterity might not be great, so for whatever reason you need to work your dog naked. I think this is a fair law for that reason, as I know that sometimes putting on a vest is too difficult but you may need to go somewhere that day and need your dogs help. Handlers know that they'll have to explain more and have now issues with petting when there's no vest, that's understandable. However it's still their choice, it's their dog, it's with them 24/7 and if they're going somewhere new/exciting like a wedding or Disney sometimes they want to dress the dog up to show their personality. It's the same as decorating their wheelchair or cane ect, it's showing some personality on their medical equipment. As for the dog in the picture, it's from TrainedandMaintained, a company that often trains at Disney and they deliberately make their dogs look silly because of how many people they come across who are at l afraid of dogs, they try and make their dogs look funny and less intimidating so that they cause less of an issue for these people. So there are many reasons a dog might be wearing or not wearing something something, if their still trained for a handlers disability, they're still a service dog.
My little sister has a service dog that alerts us by barking about an hour before she has a seizure. It is hard to convince people that it isn't a fake because she does not show her disability outwardly. I had to pull out his papers once and get a manager, because an employee didn't believe it. ☹️
Two friends of mine have service dogs, one a diabetic alert dog and the other is a seizure alert dog. They had to 'justify' their dogs many times as well. It's so terrible people who really need their dogs because it may save their lives to have them must out themselves in public like that, just because there are people who can't be bother to train their dogs or leave them outside for a bit.
Hermit Wizard Mhm…says the one that needs to be in a concentration camp Bitch ;-; Edit: sorry If You meant it in a Nice way - it’s hard to make up in Comments sometimes, id the person is trying to be Nice. I Just Have a problem once in a whole With making up If the person Who wrote the Comment mentor in a Nice way tho
As someone who has been attacked/bitten multiple times since I was 2 years old, this is very scary for me. (The first attack was from a doberman when I was 2 because I was TOLD to put her puppies back after the everyone was playing with them. I have 2 scars on my face from dogs that I got before I was even 8. I'm not evil or whatever people say) I can't help my reaction to dogs, I freeze and panick, especially when they bark. People have always told me that is why they bite me but I literally cannot control it. I understand the need for real, trained service dogs. They don't bother anyone. But these selfish assholes who are just buying vests to take their untrained pet into public are putting people and real service dogs in danger. I honestly feel terrified when I see these unruly dogs in public. It's scary and I know I'm not alone. And I feel like I'm gonna get attacked again. Something seriously needs to be done. Shame on the people who are abusing this.
"A real service dog would not be dressed in an unprofessional manner?" There are no rules about how to dress a service dog and what they wear is not a reflection of their training or the handler's disability.
I honestly don't understand why someone would fake a service dog. What do you gain from it? Just being able to bring your dog into a store they're not supposed to be in? Seriously? That's what you get from this? I'm actually impressed there are people that would go through the effort to do this just for that. Then again, I'm not a dog person.
David Chapman It really isn't. You can love your pet and still be decent and have self control. They're being selfish and making it harder on those who NEED the assistance.
MrStrikecentral there are actually people who will straight up walk up to disabled people with service dogs, and ask them how they can train their dog to be like that just so they can bring their dog with them everywhere in public... Now that's what I call beyond disrespectful...
DeJa Williams yeah it is what if for example it was hot outside and you would either have to leave your dog in the car or u could take it inside with you most people say taking the dog with them but your not one of them because you wouldn't care about how hot it is for it
I agree with this message. I have a service dog. He has been in constant training for two years. I went to Wal-Mart the other day and there was a dog jumping on children, barking, growling, and other nonsense. I spoke with management and they said they couldn't do anything about it. They are WRONG! If a "service dog" is causing a disruption, management may ask the person to remove the dog. I wish people were more educated on what to look for.
Jessie Nicholas in fact it better for training, most dogs its hard to get a collar on. Also the girl has a TH-cam channel so you can tell her that I will tell you tomorrow her TH-cam channels name. I'm sorry if people want to be happy with a service dog, they never said hay can I be blind! Or can I be not able to walk so I can have a service not!?
As someone who has an invisible illness and a very real, very necessary service dog, I can tell you that people who do this create SO MANY PROBLEMS for people like me. People assume that just because they can't see what's wrong with me, means that my service dog is automatically fake. I have been barred from public places, aggressively accosted on the streets by complete strangers, refused job applications, and even had professors try to keep me from attending classes until I "get rid of my fake service dog." She's an angel, doesn't even bark at home, and very rarely does anything but just sleep under my chair and watch me very carefully unless she is alerting on me. But I still have strangers chew me out because they have encountered a fake service dog once, and they assume that all service dogs are fake now. ARG! THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY!!!!!
Sleepy Sarah Elizabeth ,remember you have rights and your legitimate SD has even more rights, so don't remain complacent...make a complaint and Sue them! They need to know that it's against the law to discriminate on you or your SA, PERIOD!
Sleepy Sarah Elizabeth that's why when people try to spot a fake service dog they should look at the number one rule, and that's training, signs of a disability should come next, and that's only because not every disability is a visible one, and I'm sorry that you have to go through that, if you haven't, you should check out a channel called pawsandlove, the girl talks about all the federal laws about having a service dog, she's where I learned about service dog stuff from
Sandy Sandy 😡my mom happens to be somebody who is adding to the problem she went online and bought an "Emotional Support Animal" vest and thinks that because she has that her dog can go wherever she goes😡people like my mom make me livid😡
Hunter Lodge Stables if you want your mom to understand that she is breaking a FEDERAL law go to ADA.gov then search for Service Dogs. It’s only about 2 or 3 pages. Then print it out. And Emotional Support Dogs are not allowed public access. You have to have a letter from a doctor for an ESA also, because the law allows you to have ESA in pet-free apartments.
“Dresses in an inappropriate manner” Service animals can be in any way their handler sees fit. Without any vest even. It’s like telling someone they can’t customize their wheelchair
I see fake service dogs EVERYDAY!!! It honestly annoys me how dishonest people can be!😤 I remember not too long ago, I was at the mall and a dog dressed as a service dog was barking and howling at people🙄.
Well if that were real service dogs they would be dress more professionally dress. Personally, I don't take that poodle or it owner serious because that ridiculous get-up wearing. Like I've sad before if it is a real service dog it should look like professional one not a ridiculous clown at a circus. I'm pretty sure and I hope no one takes this poodle ESA Pet or any ESA Pets which are often dressed in ridiculous unprofessional outfits as ADA recognized SD. Because ESA Pets are NOT legal ADA recognized as SDs. You know how illegal it is to fake an SD or faking/passing off an ESA Pet as a service dog. It's a hefty fine and jail time in most states. Sorry I don't believe that poodle is a real legitimate service dog, I believe that poodle is nothing more than an Emotional Support Animal Pet at best. I agree with this news report that the fake service dogs that are showing here are nothing more than fake service dogs and ESA Pets that are ruining the reputation of a REAL service dog. As some with a medically diagnosed disability that uses a REAL service dog. Fake SD's and people passing off ESA Pets as SD's really P*SS me off. The fake as ESA Pets make much harder for me use my SD when I really need her to live a normal life. Then these fakes and ESA Pets and often or not in ridiculous SD clothes goes and ruins it for me as well as others that use real service dogs. It only makes me madder than hell when you are trying to tell me that poodle that is more likely an ESA Pet in that ridiculous service dog clothes is a real SD. If it was REAL a service dog it won't be dressed like bozo the clown! A real disabled person does not want to draw attention to their medical equipment, even if it's a dog....I sure don't and I make sure my dog is dressed like SD professional and not wearing anything to draw attention to us.
Sorry, I'm not going waste my time looking at websites that passing off ESA Pets as service dogs in ridiculous unprofessional service dog clothes. I have more important things in my life than waste my time being catfished to believe about someone with ESA Pets being illegally passed off as SDs. So you are passing off an ESA Pet as a service dog ridiculous clothes. Thanks a lot, Lil Miss for making my life with a disability and a legitimate service dog more difficuilt. ~shakes a finger at you~ Naughty Naughty!!!! I just hope the law catches up on you for your selfish behavior Lil' Miss!!
That is BS, if you want to be taken seriously Lil' miss. Now please go away ~ Trying to shoo you away~ SHOO SHOO I don't deal with ESA Pet owners passing off their ESA Pets as fake services dog NOW SHOO!
I just heard that Trained and Maintained ESA Pets poodles were finally indefinitely have been OFFICIALLY 89/kickeded of Walt Disney World after the owner of the ESA Pet Poodles named Susan went after a small toddler child petting the dog. Susan hit a small female child's arm very hard making the child let out a blood-curdling scream and left a mark on the child's arm. Susan attacked the female child in line after it ran up to pet one her ESA Pets. Which Susan illegally is passing off as service dogs to bring them into Disney illegally. Susan is also in a lot of trouble taking pictures of the male child without asking permission from the child's parents. Susan claimed earlier a 4-year male child was abusing her dog. An another SD team that witnessed this said the child was not even near her or the dogs. This SD team reported Susan creeping and stalking and taking pictures of a little boy bending over and Disney security started flowing Susan throughout out Disney security. I was told is this very common when Susan and her ESA Pets come to the park Disney has seceriety watching her. Because when they do indefantly ban her and her ESA Pets from Disney and if crazy Susan comes back and starts yelling g discrimination at Disney they have proof they kicked her out and banned her because of publicly safety and not discrimination. The child bending over picking flowers from a bush and Susan was taking pictures the child when the parents are not looking is just plain creepy. Susan sounds like a pedophile when she taking pictures of little boys bending over picking flowers. I also heard she a 7-8week old puppy that didn't have all of it shows at Walt Disney World walking around on a leash on the ground. A lot SD teams are saying she was trying to sell the puppy to Disney. It's not surprising to them when she has a history selling puppies at Disney and passing them off as SDIT or selling the untrained ESA Pets(ESA Pets not NOT legal service dogs) poodles for as service dogs for $30,000.00 each. I find it oh so funny how peoplr are saying how T & M owner Susan is claiming now how it caused her and her ESA Pets trauma and she never going ever go back to Disney. Susan is now paying her ESA Pet clients to say they have been mistreated by Disney now. Wow, trying to cover her ass with her lies and trying to bury the true facts. Susan and her T & M ESA Pets have OFFICIALLY INDEFENTNY BANNED FROM THE DISNEY PARKES FOREVER!!!!! I hope Disney brings a slander and liability lawsuit against Susan and her T & M ESA Pets. The parents of the children that Susan hit the child and taking a picture of a child with permission. I was told by 2 service dog teams that were at Disney and witnessed the whole event(Susan hitting the child and Susan taking pictures of a child). After Susan hit the one child Diesney security had to call the Orlander Police to come have Susan physically removed because she was kooking out and got physical with the mother of the child she hit and Disney security guards when the were trying to get Susan to leave. When the Orlander Police got there( 7 cops came out to Disney) Susan started kooking out again on the cops; the cops arrested Susan and whisked her away to jail. Her ESA pets where picked up and taken away by Orlando Animal Control Department. I was having an anxiety of my and my service dog's upcoming trip to Disney because of Susan and her M & T ESA Pets. This had me so worried about mine and my service dog's safety. I still have a high anxiety over the fact mine and service dog's safety at Universal Studios apparently so far Susan and her T & M ESA Pets have not yet been banned from Universal. I was told she is rarely there and now sent Susan been indefinitely kicked out of Disney World she might be there alot. I just hope Universal get wind of it and follow the Disney's lead and slap an indefinitely ban Susan and T & M ESA Pets from their parks as well for general public safety reasons as well. Ps. I have informed the poodle that is dress unprofessionally in the news report is one of Susan's T & M ESA Pets. I'm also going to go to the Disney's security office and thank them for keeping, myself, service dog, other SD Teams and The General Public safe by indefinitely banning Susan and her M & T ESA Pets and making it safer for myself, my service dog, other teams, and the general public to safely enjoy the Disney parks with worrying about Susana and her ESA Pets. I was worried if one her ESA Pet Poodles started sniffing my dog while my service dog is ignoring her ESA Pet she will cause my dog being a fake and go Kook O'l Clock on me and hit me and kick my service dog. I heard stories of Susan when she is koooking out accusing my service dog attacked her ESA Pets. This is what my anxiety makes me worried about her kicking my dog in the face. I was told by over 30 SD Teams started telling watch out for the crazy ESA Pet Poodle Women and I was told many of horror stories how their dogs were accused being fakes that touched her dogs and she turned around kicked their dogs between the eyes. I was told could of these teams had to retire their service dogs because what Susan did their service dogs and now they starting over with a new dog because a couple of the service dogs Susan kicked in the face are scared and traumatized by this psycho women had been retired.
I'm sick and tired of all the fake service dogs and people who are too dumb and say, "you can walk fine why do you need a SD?" I've actually had a man harass my SD at the store once. He deliberately kept standing next to her and trying to lean on her. In the end he stepped on her tail, causing her to yelp. (The store owner saw it and got angry at the man thank god) though now my dog somewhat has a fear of people behind her stepping on her tail.
Wow. So sorry that happened. If he intentionally stepped on her tail, I wonder if he could have been charged with animal abuse/cruelty. He could have injured her. It sounds as if he didn't believe you and tried to test her.
Mention the words tazer or stun gun. Honest to god I'm not even kidding. They don't care that they may cause damage, unless u make it apparent said damage will be reflected on them. The first, and last, time someone tried to grab fords mobility lead when I laughed and went to walk away went pretty straight forward. *reach* "I will taze ur arse." *pause* " And I won't even feel bad afterwards when I file charges." FIN.
I know a lady that trains service dogs as I come across her on the bus quite often and we had a discussion about people buying these knock off vests. I had a problem with a customer that had a dog in her purse at the place I worked claiming it was a service dog when it clearly wasn't and she threw a hissy fit when she was told that she could not bring her dog into the store unless she presented proof that it was a service dog. Aleida for people that have service dogs for their disabilities whether they are visible or not what are the breeds generally used?
JemStar It really depends on what disability you have Jem. When I was mobile and could carry a dog on my back I had a pom looking dog in a backpack made for dogs. He was medical alert and response. One big thing was asthma alert since he could smell things that could set mine off before I ever go near the source. But now? For mobility assist I have a larger dog of course. How a dog looks doesn't limit what all it can do. That's what makes fake SD so hard to deal with. SD can be a pure bred dog, or a mutt that has so many breed markers that you don't even know what to try and call it. Many are shelter dogs that have been given a new life thru becoming an SD. I mean, this is what makes it so tough. But dogs were chosen as service animals because no matter what you need help with- a dog can fill that need.
I don't have a service dog, but the fakes need to be banned! The "service dog" owners do realize they can and WILL go to jail for bringing their untrained "service dogs" in public... It's stupid and wrong!
as they said in 19 states, there are 31 states or 32 if you count DC unless a state added the law since this video came out. I'm just saying that there states that don't have the law in the books yet.
U2Yes 1DNo EDCP/Sabrina Kitty/Brown/Hooves Service dogs do go out in public when they are young (for socialization and doggy manners training). They have a vest on that says they are in training. This is before the specialized training.
A girl who I go to to church with has a real service dog who sits still and behaves better than 100% of children and adults during services and Sunday School.
I used to take my Doberman to church, but we had permission from the pastor, and she was so well trained it was incredible. She never moved from my side unles I told her it was okay, and, in the church, she never had a leash on. She was better behaved than a lot of the kids.
Libby Cormier uh have you ever encounter the woman and her clown dogs? I have. And also have encountered real ones who even believe she’s fake. So yeah....
@@WickedlyMe328 there is no dress code for service dogs, your allowed to dye or dress them up. Its not the outfit that makes them a service dog or not, it's their hundreds of hours of training.
Welp I went to the mall with my friend and we saw a “service dog” and as soon as we passed that person and their dog I told her how fake it was. She was like “what do you mean?” Well, the vest was soooo loose, it was pulling the owner, sniffing everything, and even barked a few times.
Service dogs aren't supposed to bark .. They are supposed to do silent alerts ... They can be dressed anyway their handler wants .. They could be dressed in doctor who, Supernatural, Disney or anything the handler wants ... Judge by behaviour not looks
Actually no .. and how do you know all service dogs are trained the same with the same alerts ? all service dogs are trained differently and some have more then 1 way to alert their handler (lets say someone has diabetes and anxiety how would the handler know whats wrong with only 1 way to alert ?) ... service dogs are supposed to do silent alerts .. someone could train growling as an alert but it doesn't mean it a good way for the dog to alert (they'd get kicked out of a store) .. barking in public is disruptive .. service dogs aren't supposed to be disruptive .. most handlers goal is for no one to know theres a dog in a building/room if it can't be seen until the dog moves ... heres another reason barking isn't a good way for the dog to alert .. you can't distinguish between a fake barking or the service dog barking .. barking is also an unprofessional way for the dog to alert and the handler could be kicked out of the store because it I usually fakes that bark in stores ... look up the ADA law for service dogs
Katheryne Koelker barking for seizures is typically not an alert for the handler. It's usually a public alert, a call for help. A service dog will normally have a silent alert to warn their handler about an oncoming seizure, but one that is already happening, or a stroke, heart attack, severe PTSD event, pretty much anything where the handler becomes unresponsive and may need medical attention is handled by a bark alert. Unfortunately, fake service animals have soured the purpose of these alerts, and barking is more likely to be ignored.
KappaW not be grudging you, but they would stop- with guide dogs the trust is implicit. If the dog won't go forward then there's something there, and you have to look at the context... Like if you're right off the street trying to walk across, if the dog won't go then the light is green and/or you'd be stepping out in front of a car ... The trust in the dog's skills is a feat in itself. I've only watched this a couple times since my amnesia, so TH-cam it or google... I mean Ford reminds me about cars because I zone out focusing on making me legs move correctly, but when he stops me I always have my sight to see what's up :)
The difference between a fake barking and a real SD trained to bark is the state of the handler and I would expect that the SD would stop once help was being administered. If the handler is NOT "down" and for some reason didn't train the SD for silent alerts I'm sure the handler wouldn't train the dog to do more than 2-3 barks. If the dog doesn't stop immediately after signalling or the handler lets the dog continue to bark/doesn't do anything to stop the barking then the conclusion is going to be "fake" due to the poor choice in signalling regardless. SD trained with barking signals also have different comportment and demeanor and body language to pets.
Bundang Bear service dogs aren't required to have any type of identification, verification, ID, licensing, or paperwork... As a matter of fact, that really doesn't exist for a service dog, unless you're traveling to a different country, as they can have different standards for having a service dog. That is also why businesses are not allowed to ask for any of the listed things.
well I met one dog that had an ID. and where it happened it was at mental hospital I went. so at 6 pm we had a visitation night where parents and children 13+ could visit. though for an animal to enter they need an ID and so their owner got an ID and brought it inside the hospital. so yeah some do have ID's but rarely.
Creeper_girl101....Why shouldn't businesses be allowed to ask you about your SD....what's the big deal? IF you truly need a well-trained service dog, you should be thrilled that there should be a few straight forward rules to keep you and your SD safe.....It's ridiculous that you people get so uptight over being asked about your service dog.
Anytime somebody enters the business where I work with a dog, I asked him to remove the dog from the store, but then they just say it's a service dog. There's little to no regulation on how to determine what is and is not a service dog without personally asking the customer what their disability is or what task the dog is trained to perform.
as someone who works at a grocery store and has had to clean up after fake service dogs, I can confirm its very easy to tell the real ones from the fake ones
I have one and I think They should make a registry. But instead of writing what is the medical reason a test on the dog and a valid form from a doctor stating that you have a need for a service dog (no more than that). So your dog has a license like if you're driving a car.
Or have a registry that works with the real training programmes so that when the dog passes its automatically on the registry, which would minimise the cost of extra testing
I just need to clarify this: the dog in the thumbnail is a real service dog. Handlers are allowed to dress up their dogs! The poodle with the heart sweater is a *REAL SERVICE DOG*
Why isn’t this regulated? I’m honestly asking. There needs to be an official seal, I think Canada has one. That would put some of these fraudulent sites out of business as they could reported as commuting a crime. There has to be something where the rulings around HIPPA and a registry could work together.
Main Street Boxer my friend trains them so don’t presume to know my motive. I feel bad when you have people with fake service dogs not controlling their pets around actually service dogs so it endangers the service dog and their owner.
That poodle who’s not “professionally dressed” is actually a legit team. Look up “trainedandmaintained” she’s an incredible person who does so much for others and trains legit dogs. She’s a non profit as well. Don’t judge a book by its cover because there are ZERO laws on how a service dog should look. In fact, they don’t even HAVE to wear ANYTHING. It’s up to the owner, and it’s terrible a legit team was called out for something they didn’t do wrong.
The rest I can agree on though. I’m disabled and utilize a service dog and the amounts of fake really, truly hurts the legit teams out there...but it’s wrong to judge a dog by what it’s wearing. Lots of handlers dress their dogs up. Personal preference.
I have a Therapy Dog, and sometimes he will wear a bow tie, or his tuxedo collar. And around holidays he has bunny ears (easter) reindeer antlers (Christmas) and a hat for Australia day, because he is visiting people in hospitals, and seeing him dressed up cheers them up.
David Edwards technically, therapy dogs aren't trained service dogs. They're classified under emotional support and are not granted the rights of trained service dogs, so yes, a dog who comforts sick people can wear whatever they want
I dress up my service dog because in the few places I go, it makes the kids who are scared of dogs more at ease, you know? And in winter, I put a sweater on her because she gets cold.
Really need to regulate buying of vest and come up with an official ADA vest. There should be some form of ID for the animal. I suspect a lot of fakes too that I see. A vest I have seen is "Service Dog in Training"...a nice way to say if it acts up "it's in training" oh come on. Home Depot is bad, sometimes I think I'm in pet smart.
As someone owner training a SD, I get really annoyed by fakers. However, I understand that service dogs are not robots. They're still just animals and so will have off days. I think the clearest way to tell if the dog is legit is to watch how the owner responds to the dog misbehaving. I always correct Reese quickly and will leave if he's not settling down. It's embarrassing when he acts up, especially since I'm training him myself.
I've thought before that if someone disabled took a note from their doctor stating a need for a service animal (not an esa), and a statement from a training agency validating training (owner trained dogs could just pass a test like "canine good citizens" do to get a certificate) to the DMV, then they should be able to get a free ID card from the DMV good for the life of the dog, proving it's legit. Then the info is private, and the card just clarifies that the state is satisfied that the dog is legit, and the person's disability info remains privileged. Such a thing could be optional at first, and gradually be phased in as something acquired when one gets a new service dog.
In Kalifornia (of course) any doctor can write a suggestion for a service/mental health animal. People have service ducks and goats. They also feel entitled to bring them on planes. I was on a flight where a "service cat" was running loose the whole time. .
That poodle with the hearts is actually a real service dog! A handler can dress their dog however they want, there is no law stating that they need to be vested.
I think there should be a registry and it only require notice from a health care professional that you qualify for one and the actual reason not be disclosed. I would also like to add that when it comes to the training of the dog that there be a standardized test and that its certification not rely on who trained it as some people are perfectly capable of training their own dog.
theBeastcub the problem is, that there can’t POSSIBLY be someone to test the dog available where someone lives, and it’s completely against our rights to have to drive possibly hours out of the way to get our dogs tested. On top of that, we don’t have to have a certification for a wheelchair, or any other tool that helps us live a semi normal life. Why do we have to be certified for a service dog? It makes no sense why legit teams should have to go through SO MUCH trouble when other people should just not fake a sd and should not take their dogs with them where they don’t belong. /: you know what I mean? It just makes it so much more difficult for legit teams and one of the biggest issues is, that places like Walmart have a policy in place not to kick non service dogs out, or dogs who are being disruptive. By law they CAN but they WONT and so many legit service dogs have been attacked by pet dogs because of it...so really it’s more of a business fault and THEY should be getting the backlash, not the disabled people who use SDs. ):
Main Street Boxer they want it because it should have been in play since day one any one with half a brain can tell you that. Their wouldent be as much fakes if who ever made the sd law wasent a complete moron.
Won't work as the medical professionals currently sign anything for their patients. I check every service animal form by contacting the medical provider and all of them say yes they signed the form. Not one of them knows why the need for the animal. Can't rely on the professionals as they are likely afraid to get sued for NOT signing the form.
A fake service dog almost killed my miniature Shar Pei. My apartment complex didn't question the validity of a non-neutered American Bully pit bull being a service dog because his owner was in a wheel chair. That dog attacked another dog at our apartment complex dog park, bit my neighbor, and pushed its way into my apartment as the door was opening to take my dog out. It grabbed my dog and dragged her out into the hallway. It locked its jaw on my dogs face and neck. It took my 280lb neighbor 10 minutes of wrestling and strangulating this dog until he lost blood flow to his brain, started to lose consciousness, and let go of my screaming dog. It's not cute nor is it okay to fake having a service dog.
Porcelain Pinup you know it isn't a requirement for SD to be spayed or neutered right? My male service dog wasn't neutered until he was at the age where he could get prostate cancer. A real service animal can have all their parts and still be a real service animal.
Porcelain Pinup , now in this situation ,hold the handler accountable,in in some state's that dog would be put down. These are the idiots that give my husband's SA a bad name as his SA is a TRAINED pit bull, he loves people in general and feel he's no threat so we allow petting him in some cases otherwise no he's a service animal he's to aide in my husband's needs. He also likes other dogs and has whined for them,but again either my husband or self(sense I trained him for 2 year's) have control by saying here Raven or down, he complys and it's over. You should go after that ass as he is the problem to real SA that need there animal ! Best of luck. Our SA isn't neutered either and won't be until his vet tells us it's time to do so.
Porcelain Pinup Not all pitbulls are like that and are both dogs okay? It's not the pitbulls complete fault a lot of male dogs that aren't neutered have instincts to fight dogs in their territory.
AnimeMaxwell you're right, it isn't the pitbulls fault, it was the owners for having a fake service dog that wasn't even remotely trained to behave itself around other people or dogs, which was the whole point of that story, was to say stop faking service dogs, because it can put others lives at risk. Make sense?
I have a Therapy Dog that visits hospitals and nursing homes. I sometimes dress him up, not as much as the poodle, but when he is dressed, it is something special for the people we are visiting and lifts their spirits, and after all, that is his job.
David Edwards therapy animals are classified as emotional support animals and are not given the rights of trained service dogs. They can wear whatever they want when their job is making sick people feel better
I 🤔 that people can dress 👗 their service dogs,when their not out in public,but when they’re out,their working,they should have some kind of I’d on to let the public know it,s a Working 🐩 ,and it,s there to do a job.I think that their should be harder LAWS because it,s not wright and unfair and wrong 😑 for people to poise,for what they are not,people who are found to be fake, I 🤔 should be sevely fined,because needing a 🐕🦺 to help you with everyday life is something that I would,not wish on my worst enemy and I haven’t BESS
That larger growling fake service dog reminds me of one time, several years ago when I was grocery shopping at a major store (Safeway maybe? Walmart?). There were two women there at the same time with two larger dogs in harnesses or vests marked 'service animal'. They were growling some and constantly pulling at their leashes, having to be yanked back often, clearly not trained. When my shopping was done and I called a cab to head home, the dispatcher at first refused me, saying my dogs were a problem. I had to laugh as I explained that I had no dog but I knew exactly who he thought I was. Apparently these two women had exited the store at about the same time and, while I turned left to get out of the walking path while I waited, they had gone to the opposite end of the storefront and called the same major cab company as me. They were still standing there, yanking the dogs back to heel, as my cab passed them by, heading for my apartment.
instead of carrying an ID that has info about the disability simply have it say "I am disabled and this is my service dog" with a pic of both the person and the dog, the ID does not have to say exactly what the nature of the disability is.
I'm sorry as discriminating as it is, its a necessity. Have it say "Service Dog License Holder" and make it very hard to get forged copies of such licenses.
Ok while I greatly appreciate you shading light on this issue and bringing up several valid and good points, I have to disagree with you on the part about "dressing in an unprofessional manner". According to ADA law, there isn't a "dress code" for service dogs. In fact, they aren't required to be marked as a service animal at all. Working a dog without a vest is what we handlers call "working naked". Which is 100% legal. Personally, I don't work my dog naked, I think it makes it harder for the general public to distinguish between a real working dog and just a pet, but that doesn't mean I haven't exercised my right to work Watson naked. With that said, it is up to the handler's needs and desires as to how the dog is outfitted. Many handlers dye their dogs tails to celebrate specific awareness months (like right now is Lyme, mental health and others, and the color for mental health is green so many people have dyed their dog's tails green). Some people dress their dogs up a bit. I for one have nerdy patches all over Watson's vest, not to mention the hats and such he's worn on occasion. Some people dress their dogs up a bit because a dog in a silly hat is less threatening to the public than just a dog. You'd be surprised how many educational conversations I've had with people who are terrified of dogs just because my dog was wearing a cute sweater or a hat. Now some people have to dress their dogs in sweaters or full body suits like the poodle in the white heart body suit and red vest. The poodle in the video is actually part of a training organization down in Orlando, Florida. because of this, the dogs are often clipped quite short to help with the heat, but that means they also get cold easily. That body suit is like a cute, warm sweater, that Jarvis gets to wear to help keep him comfortable in the colder moths or areas. While some fakes are easy to spot, its more off of poor behavior than dress. Remember, its 100% legal to not mark your dog at all, its just easier for everyone involved. A vest is a visual reminder that the dog is working and not to interfere with it. How ever you feel the need to dress your dog otherwise, is up to handler's digression. Keeping in mind, the more wacky the outfit, the more people will comment and stop you to ask questions. Heck, I get stopped constantly when my service dog is wearing boots. (in the summer to protect his pads from the hot pavement, occasionally in areas I'm particularly worried about glass, and in the winter to keep him off of the salt) You typically can't tell based off of how the dog is dressed (unless you recognize an illegal scam's vest/patch) but more off of behavior. If you want more information or want to see what I'm talking about with dressing up dogs, hit me up on Instagram instagram.com/watsonsupersleuth/. I'm happy to answer any questions you have about service animals, about fakes, dressing up or otherwise. While most of your video seemed well thought out, it was unfortunately wrong in the dress code area. Thank you for posting this and spreading awareness!
Ok, like I said in my response to this video, YOU CANT TELL A SD FROM A FAKE BASED OFF OF HOW THEY ARE DRESSED. BY LAW, a service dog doesn't even have to be marked, they can be worked what we handlers call "naked". Some people, who work in high population areas like Disney and Universal, dress their dogs up a bit for several reasons. In the case of that "Fake poodle", those dogs are shaved really close to help with heat of Florida but then they are cold in temperatures under like 75 degrees so they wear those pajama style suits... which happen to be customizable and able to be made cute. And no, sorry, I don't like the idea of a dress code for service animals. Just like being able to dress up a wheel chair or oxygen tank, I should be able to customize and dress up my dog's gear. Should there maybe be a standard for training? And a federally recognized LEGAL registration (almost like a census but one that covers training)? ABSOLUTELY. But a dress code? no. I'm sorry, as a handler, I like the freedom of dressing my dog how I like, I don't like the idea of a dress code.
~Nods~ Oh yes you can tell. Because a real true disabled person does not want to draw attention their service dog which draws attention to the fact they are disabled. I found that 100% of the unprofessional dressed service dogs are not a real service dog, but ESA Pets at best. The federal law really needs to crack down these fakes and have the standard dress code for service dogs. I also found that people are against the SD Dress Code and having a registration and tagging law forservice dogs doing by animal control departments throughout the USA. These people are the people that are faking a disability to pass their pets and ESA Pets off as fake service dogs. They know that won't get away with it no more if a service dog dress code and registration by animal control nationwide is put through the federal law books. Already couple state and several animal control departments found legal way close that loophole up and now requiring legitimate service dogs to tagged. So you are an against something that will protect the legitimate service dog and it the rights of it disabled handler? Sound like you are worried PET OWNER to me and others. You really to leave you pet at home, you in danger people like me and my legitimate service dog with your pet being where it does not belong. As that poodle, it's ESA Pet and it's being dragged intp places where it doses not belong endangering legitimate service dog teams. I personally think when people are caught faking an SD with their pets or ESA Pets)Which are often aggressive or carrying diseases that will make out SD sick or a person sick and with some disabilities of a persona it can be fatal) that animal should be taken away and the owner should never get it back. As for the ones that show aggression or any reaction to legitimate SD should be automatically be put to sleep. Ps. legitimate disabled SD Handlers do want a Dress Code Law for service dogs and animal control SD Registration and Tagging Law in place. Only the fakers that own pets and ESA Pets are against this because they won't be able to FAKE no more! 100% of real disabled people with SD have been writing multiple times been sending letters to Congress wanting SD Dress Codes, SD Registration and other thing relating to protecting real SDs and putting an end to the fake service dogs! Yes, I write often to Congress and ADA about it! Last time I sent them pictures of my SD after she was brutely attacked by ESA Pet and a copy my ER-Vet bill that was $1,349.76. The ESA Pet owner is still refusing pay and I have a small claims case coming up in court(next month) and I hope I can get her pay for the vet bill that her ESA Pet caused to my SD. This is why we need these laws is to protect our service dog from the fakes and the law protecting us. My SD almost lost an eye because of this ESA Pet!
Kim, I'm very very sorry to hear about your SD, I hope she is doing better? And I hope for your sake that you win that case. No dog should be endangered, especially while doing their job. And in no way am I against some kind of real federal regulation. I myself have written to congress, as well as to my state government about changing laws, local and federal. I'm all for some kind of federally recognized system of registration, especially one that has a standard of training, perhaps requiring the dog to pass the ADI issues PA test? And like rabies, licenses should be reissued every year after passing a "brush up" evaluation? I have actually had several discussions with multiple, legit handlers on multiple social media platforms about this. Some of who are responsible for the state law change in Michigan. I'm trying hard to get my state laws changed right now, and am helping others across the country start working on changing their state laws as well. I think there should be revisions to the laws, and not just ADA but ACAA as well. But all of these changes can't happen if we attack each other instead of working together, just a thought. As for your comment to me about being a fake handler with a pet that I'm illegally taking around: I would like to point out that one: I never once attacked you on your dog or your disability ( because it doesn't matter, it's not my business). Unfortunately for you, I am a legit team, legal and all, so your personal opinion doesn't really bother me. I don't feel the need to make others feel small to make my self feel more legit as a handler. And two: I don't like the idea of a dress code for several reasons. One: what do we do about the handlers who can't afford this vest of the dress code that you so desperately want? What about the handlers who are unable to put on or maintain this dress code due to their disability? What kind of dress code are you going to lay out that is 100% fake proof? 2) my service dog, in many ways is an extension of myself. If I want to have a solid red, cape vest on him one day but change it to his current harness (which is blue and covered in some pretty awesome patches imo) the next, I have that liberty right now. If I want to take my dog to a taco party wearing his sombrero, I am legally allowed to do so. If I want my dog to have his own ear hat in Disney simply for my enjoyment, I am 100% free to do so. Am I dressing my dog up for attention? No. Does it make him any less of a life saver just because he's dressed "unprofessionally"? No. Do I recognize the attention these things are going to get me while I'm out and about? Absolutely. But honestly, seeing as I work a blue Merle, non traditional breed SD, I get a lot of attention regardless of what he's wearing, so why not have fun with it? 3) the amount of positive, educational, and helpful conversations I've had with people about sds, their rights, what laws need to change, and how we are negatively affected by fakes, just because my dog is "abnormal" and/or "unprofessionally dressed" is incredible. About half of the people I work with, spreading awareness and writing to the various governments, are all people who stopped to talk to me, wait for it, because my dog was wearing a hat, or my dog was wearing a sweater in the winter, or my dog was wearing boots because the asphalt was too hot. "Unprofessional" dress has gotten me way more help and support for the SD community than you'd probably believe. But what do I know right? I'm just an ESA/pet owner who is illegally trying to pass my dog off as a service dog. I'll just have to tell my doctor, all those doctors bills, and my service dog that I'm faking and should be put away for my crime right? I also find it incredibly interesting that for a self proclaimed animal activist you would see a dog (who probably isn't trained, heavily stressed, and lashing out due to fear thanks to a neglectful owner) "immediately put to sleep" for attacking a service animal. IMO, the dog should be taken away from the owner and given proper training and a good home where they won't do cruel things like put their untrained, terrified dog in that situation again. But I'm not an animal rights activist so what do I know... I am all for revising laws, I just don't like the idea of a dress code. I think I made my position on that clear. And if you would like to share maybe some of the law revisions you are hoping to see (besides the dress code, I got that already) so that we can all be writing to congress about the same revisions, that would be great. A united front gets things done, and I would really like to get these laws a real thing, not just something we argue about through a computer screen. I'm more than interested in working on these revisions and getting them through congress asap and appreciate any help we can get. It's always interesting and insightful what other handlers think needs to be changed in the laws. I don't suffer from every disability under the sun, nor have I dealt with every possible issue a SD team might face, so it's great to have input from as many people as possible. I look forward to hearing your suggestions. :)
In our walmart there was a girl with a rat crawling all over her and jumping on and off the cart. I was so mad. Imagine the germs! At the time, the people had to be masked! The employees said they were not allowed to question it. We need this regulated.
Yesterday a "seeing eye" dog came with a customer into work and the dog could not even walk straight! Was sniffing everything and was way too excited to meet everyone. No way that dog was actually a service dog
Remember that the handlers of a guide dog are visually impaired / blind and may have no previous experience training or even owning a dog when they are given their guide dog prior to the 1-3 weeks training that is usually done residentially in a guide dog centre. When you get a guide dog it is a very difficult and challenging transition for the first couple of months to a year of getting them. Imagine you have 0 sight, have never owned a dog before and are suddenly having to trust a dog you have only just met with your life as well as constantly do continuous training with an 80 pound young, energetic dog who is only just getting used to this big upheaval in their life and is still slightly puppyish (usually GD are matched with their handlers at around 18 months to 2 1/2 years old) - you too would also have days where you just simply cannot control your dog if things go bellyup. I am blind and I am on my second guide dog (he is now 2, I was matched with him when he was a year and a half) whom was trained by the guide dogs for the blind here in Ireland - he is an amazing loving dog, a brilliant worker and I trust him with my life BUT he can also have his off days just like any other guide dog (and person..) I have ever met. If we have had a long day and I am tired and he’s tired and I’m not as “on the ball” as I would usually be he might start to sniff in shops especially If it is near his meal time and if he hasn’t had enough exercise he may pull me out of excitement to work (he loves being out in busy areas) and if someone distracts him by talking to him in a doggy voice or petting him etc he may get hyper when he sees them because he is not a robot he is a dog. Yes he is a highly intelligent, professionally trained and extremely intelligent one but just like us humans and like any other guide dog has his moments and I have mine. Most of the time if the dog does something off it’s probably something their handler has done wrong or a member of the public doing something to put them off. Maybe this dog you saw was a fake, but it also may have just been someone who has having a bad day and lost control of their dog. I myself am someone who admittedly can be slightly skeptical about service dogs especially when they are owner trained because yes some service dogs that are owner trained are fantastic and may even be better trained than some dogs from programs but there are not enough regulations in place to ensure that the dogs that are owner trained are actually training the dog properly and ethically and this to me is where the problem lies as there is no way of knowing the difference between a well trained service dog and someone who may well have a disability that warrants the need for a service dog but hasn’t sufficiently been able to train their dog. There is more of a demand / need for service dogs than their are available so of course owner training is often unavoidable and often times more successful but their does need to be some sort of standard the dog has to be trained to in order to gain public access rights in order to keep everyone and their dogs safe.
I've seen people with legitimate service dog dye their dogs fur exotic colors. And I always think "Your dog is supposed to be pretty much ignored, and you're drawing attention to them. And making people think they are fake."
That woman pissed me of pretending to be blind. I'm black and my mother was blind for several years and I had to help and care for her during my childhood. Also she has a fear of dogs so she didn't want a guide dog. Anytime I see somebody faking blindness I get angry.
Sharon Jackson sure there are bigger problems in the world than people faking disabilities. But it's still a problem. It's devalues the people who actually need service dogs and ESA because people want to cheat. These things can affect someone's life on a daily basis
I’m so grateful for this video. I have a service dog and I’m in high school and I have many chronic illnesses (invisible disabilities) and I get severely harassed at school for having a service dog. The kids say he’s fake because he doesn’t have a “certification” and because I’m not blind or in a wheelchair. They kick him in the halls, threaten to feed him chocolate and pills, threaten to bring their aggressive dogs and say it’s a “therapy dog” to literally KILL HIM. It’s so ridiculous. This video will help me prove that I’m not lying. And show the people that try to say they’re gonna bring their “service dog” to school that they are breaking the law.
There is NO law regulating how service animals can be dressed. They can legally be dressed however the handler wants. They are not legally required to wear a vest, either. The photo you included of the poodle is a VERY legitimate service animal in training through an organization in Orlando. Their appearance does not dispute their validity.
Please educate yourselves before you speak on topics you know nothing about. Under federal law, a service dog is NOT required to wear anything out in public. Some handlers, like myself, prefer it, as it's simply easier on us. And it can signal duty and off duty stuff, but again, there is no requirement. There is no requirement for anything the dog dresses in either. People get to wear whatever the hell they want and I don't see them saving lives.
Main Street Boxer you are correct, a service dog is not required to have any type of, identification, verification, ID, licensing, or paperwork. Which is why businesses are not allowed to ask for any of those listed things.
I can see how bad a problem this is. There are people who really do need a service animal to cope with a disability or some other enfeeblement, but there are still more people who abuse it. My sister bought a service dog vest for her stupid dog, but the damn thing has no training, barks at everything, doesn't listen, and is a general nuisance. I have a therapy animal for a past trauma, but I don't take him out in public unless I'm taking him to the vet or something and even then I try to avoid stores or restaurants. I don't delude myself into thinking he helps me when I'm out and about because that's not what he's for. I wish dumb and spoiled people wouldn't take advantage of the system that so many people actually need.
That's too bad, Sable--the law says that, if you are welcome in an establishment, then your service dog is as well. Your sister (and others who do what she did) makes things difficult for you.
SableWolfAngel I'm personally trying to get my cat registered as a emotional support animal due to being molested for three to four years when I was a kid and being verbally and emotionally abused most of my life. Now that I'm in college I'm able to get help as I wasn't even allowed to go to the school counselor to help me, let alone a therapist or something. I would've needed an emotional support animal that would go out in public with me years ago because I was emotionally unstable and anything could set me off (I know this now), but now everything is a lot better than it once was and I've made a lot of progress with help from friends. Now I don't really need the ability to take an animal everywhere, more so when I'm traveling out of state by plane or moving houses since that is something I'd have trouble handling emotionally. If you have any advice for me for when I save up enough to get her registered, is there anything I should know? My counselor is helping me with questions but right now we're focusing on what was going on when I was younger with what she reckons was a dissociative symptom that I had no idea was there (like I said, I was never allowed to get help when I desperately needed it so I never knew, rather thought it was a symptom of something like schizophrenia or some other personality disorder) and I would like to get advice from those who have gone through the process already.
I have a Co worker who lost his arm in a motorcycle accident, suffered from seizures for many years after said accident, became addicted to prescription opiods, and attempted suicide, this on top of PTSD from military service. He has a VERY well trained service dog who just happens to be spoiled rotten and loved immensely in our office. Not only is she a retrieval dog who will fetch things for him, do things like shut off lights and pull covers up when back pain has him bedridden, but she is also trained to find and alert someone if he were to have a seizure or become incapacitated. But, she is also permitted to visit with the rest of the office when he is seated at his desk. We work in an airline operations control center and it is a very high stress job. You'll be Tearing your hair out one minute, and the next minute, a doe eyed pit bull has her head in your lap to calm you down...she senses anxiety and goes to help. One of our grumpy old men in the office actually complained about her and she was banned until he produced documents stating that he required her. And the rest of the office came forward and said we needed her too. It's fake crap like this that has to stop. Many disabilities are invisible. No one should have to explain themselves. If handicap parking placards became available for sale online, the government would have a field day. Why aren't we doing more to protect the people who legitimately need a service animal?
I had my medical alert dog get attacked by a fake service dog while we were at the store. she now has scars on her muzzle and is afraid of smaller dogs and will stop walking if she sees a smaller dog in any public place and will wait until said dog is far enough away that she feels safe. And I was so proud of her because the whole time the other dog was attacking her she just sat there and kept her head tucked as far into her chest as possible, a taught action that protects her neck and makes it easier to catch and get the other animal away from her.
PSA: If you see a service dog in public, DON'T PET IT. That is not only extremely rude but it's also endangering the person in need of the service dog by distracting it. In some places it's a federal crime.
yeah there was a story about a girl who had epilepsy or some seizure related disorder and she couldn’t walk and was in a wheelchair and a person pet her service dog and then she had a seizure and the dog was prevented from doing its job.
i have epilepsy, but i cannot afford training for a service dog. I do have a little doggie Pebbles, and she is registered as my companion animal because I have severe depression and PTSD (she's a rescue animal and she's 7, we have had her for a year now and she really helps) though, she can't really sense my seizures , she does have the natural dog sense so maybe 1/10 events get caught before hand. I have up to 12 seizures a day (full movement) and countless absence seizures, and i do think a service dog would help . now my doggo pebbles, she's small, little chihuahua, i hold her all the time and yes i bring her into walmart or biglots in my arms (she's extremely quiet and basically just sleeps the whole time) but NEVER HAVE I EVER PRETENDED THAT SHE WAS A SERVICE DOG, IF I AM ASKED FOR HER TO EXIT, I EXIT. IF A CONPANY ONLY ALLOWS SERVICE DOGS, I DO NOT BRING HER IN BECAUSE SHE IS SIMPLY NOT A SERVICE DOG. i probably won't ever get a service dog, it's too expensive. but yeah that was my 2¢
Kylee Grillett That is understandable. Well behaved dogs like your Pebbles should be available to be registered under support dogs because you have disabilities and disorders that she helps with. ESAs are important to mentally disabled or divergent people, just like physical service dogs are important to physically disabled people, visible or non.
Kylee Grillett I may be able to help you. Could you get in touch through our site? I'm not sure the rules on spam or soliciting but our name is all over this nutty thread. Just Google us. This is free of course. Remind me who you are and that I asked you to get in touch. Susan from Trained and Maintained Service Dogs
I'm so sorry. Just saying - be careful with WalMart! Lots of fakes there that could annoy your dog and make your dog seem like a fake too. They have health codes and don't allow non-service dogs there.
I bought one of those vests on eBay but I always have my doctors note and my medication with my names on it as proof. I once saw a Germans shepherd in a vest that wanted to attack my dog... I was like "well that's a fake" my dog just gave him a weird look lol My dog is very well behavior in large crowds and in other public places.
Main Street Boxer I only bought the vest because everywhere I go I get stopped and ask for prove. The vest just makes it easier for me. I always carry my letter and meds with me thou. Fakers makes it harder for us.
Evolve you know you can’t ask that right. You can ask what the dog is trained for but it’s illegal to ask what the disability is unless the person gives consent to.
Esther Syvanen yes, and you’re welcome. I think there needs to be more awareness and education on what’s ok to do with service dogs and what’s not. I still have people’s children come and pet Sophie when she’s working and one time a child came up and started touching her when she was trying to do DPT! I think it’s because the parents don’t realize you’re not allowed to pet service animals, even though she clearly has a “Do Not Pet” patch smh
I think people should just be educated on what a legitimate service dog acts like. If it barks for silly reasons, fake. If it does not follow simple commands, fake. If it is aggresive, fake. It's pretty simple to spot fake ones when you know what you're looking for.
Sadly that's not true. To counter crime you need to catch it, punishment means nothing without it. In fact, the US has some of the toughest punishments for crime in the Western World as it stands.
Ugh, this makes me so angry. As a service dog trainer ( for autistic kids who need their service dogs to tell them when their about to have a seizure, help them with everyday tasks, etc ) I can’t be believe people put actual people who need service dogs in danger. People are so ignorant.
I don't completely agree with the "unprofessional dress" determining if a dog is fake. Some service dogs, such as autism and epilepsy dogs, who work with children or are training to work with children will be dressed in a fun way. Some poodle owners have highly trained dogs but choose to dye tufts of their fur. This doesn't mean the dog is a fake, it is just personal preference. Determining whether or not a dog is fake is completely based on behavior of the animal. If it cannot pay attention, is not prepared to complete a task (confined to a shopping cart), is barking its head off or growling at another dog, it's most likely a fake. The ADA legally allows you to ask handlers two questions about their dog. 1) is it a service dog and 2) what tasks does it do to mitigate your disability. Fakes usually can't answer the second question, and hopefully wont have the heart to lie about the first.
What? Have we run out of teenage girls to shame? That actually reminded me of the time someone tried to shame an elephant over its udder (which is on the animals chest so it looks like breasts)
Well when the dog is supposed to be providing service you want to distract it as little as possible. You COOOULD dress your dog like Princess Peach, but that isn't going to be harmful once you have a seizure or PTSD attack.
Nionivek umm that dog who was said to look unprofessional was actually a real service dog from trained and maintained. She’s epileptic and she has the ability to dress the dog however she wants. She MADE the outfit because she thought it was cute and who cares it’s her dog and it helps her. The way it looks doesn’t effect its ability to work. She changes his look for her personal liking not for the community to judge.
Except you know, that the dyes to properly color your dog aren't sold in the USA. I mean I guess a Service Dog Owner doesn't have to treat their service dog correctly.
Anyone notice how they were mostly yappy ankle biters? It's bad enough that these owners don’t have their dogs trained or have any boundaries for their behaviour..but now we see these disgusting owners have decided to take it up a notch by harassing the general public even more, by faking them as service dogs so that they can annoy people even more!
I get most in the USA are against the idea but here in Canada dogs have to be qualified and are issued papers once qualified. The handler has to have those papers on hand at all times. Yes it can be annoying but it does help reduce the "fakes".
Believe it or not that’s how it is in the us as well but alot of people are ignorant to this information. You can not ask a person why they have a service dog, but to legally get a service dog you need a prescription from a doctor. Legally anyone could ask to see that prescription as proof of a real service dog but they get that confused with asking why they need a service dog and think that they are not allowed to ask about either which isnt true. You can legally ask to see a prescription as proof and then refuse entry if they dont have said paper.
There needs to be a Registry for them. An actual Federal one Anyone can creat Fake paperwork, Vests and ID cards. That’s why they are able to get away with it. Service Animals need a Vest identifying them as a Legal Service Animal and a registration tag with an ID number to link them to the Registry with the Current Owner
The current ADA requirements were to protect the handler's privacy. Unfortunately, due to all the snowflakes with fake dogs we are most likely going to have to have a registry for true service dogs. It can cost thousands of dollars and man hours to train a service dog...and all that training can go out the window with one fake dog attacking a service dog. If they can't control their dog, what makes them think that they can pass them off as a service animal?
As a dog owner, this makes me so mad. I love my dog and yes I would love bring her everywhere with me, but she isn't trained to do that and would be an annoyance to everyone including myself. My dog doesn't find it exciting to go shopping with me, why would I bring her along, when I can after and before run through the forest with her?! Those aren't' just harming legitimate service dogs and owner who need them, they harm their own dogs and and all dog owners with their selfishness. CALL THEM OUT!
It is not illegal, but you are depriving your dog of his dignity. Animals don't have dyed hair and don't wear clothes -- unless they serve a specific purpose, like a harness. You are also hurting the environment. The textile industry is already overproducing for human clothes. Do we really need to grow even more water-guzzling cotton and make even more clothes from non-biodegradable plastic so dogs can wear clothes, too? And don't get me started on the hair dye, it is toxic, hurts the environment and the person or animal it is used on. Hair dye has been linked to cancer and loss of fertility.
Yes, it is a huge problem. People are just putting a vest on their pet and calling them a Service Dog. Federal Law (ADA) law covers this. Really inconsiderate behavior. Motels, restaurants, grocery stores, should (and are allowed to) ask for the ADA certificate for the animal.
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That lady who pretended to be blind.... why would your service dog be riding in the cart if you were blind?
So he can tell her where to go, obviously.
IKR THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING! ;)
Ceri Barrett .
Nalu songs lmao yes?
And why would you have a Maltese to guide you??? Lmao the harness would be heavier then the dog itself
The dog in the thumbnail is Jarvis from TrainedandMaintained, a genuine, highly trained medical alert and mobility dog. Using his picture is uneducated and rude, they did not give permission please remove it, it's unfair to their company and people who get dogs from them.
Let's Talk Living AHHH I SAID ALICE IS IT ALICE OR JARVIS????? NOW IK SO CONFUSED THEY ALL NEED TK BE DYED LIKE OLAF BUT DIFFERENT COLORS SO WE KNOW WHUCH IS WHICH😂
What What Yeah it's Jarvis, Susan's noticed how often he's used in these news videos and ages trying to stop them
Oh man, I love that a poodle is named Jarvis!!
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Wow i am living under a rock I didn't know that
That poodle with the jacket is actually a real service dog!! It’s not the way the dog looks it’s how the dog acts
Exactly!
Agreed and they don’t actually have to be vested by law anyway
Exactly I watch there channel I was looking for this comment
Sophie Brookestone the fake Disney service dog!
She puts clothes on him so he doesn’t get that dirty
Start passing out tickets for fake service dogs
It’s a felony, if reported it they can get arrested
Shelly Mayer
Sorry you disagree with the law. Take it up with Congress
Shelly Mayer
Except it’s a federal law, so that makes it a felony on federal level.
Problem is law enforcement doesn’t enforce it.
@@Wyrobar1 Law enforcement only enforces what they feel like unfortunately.
The white poodle with a heart outfit is not a fake service dog.
Yep! That made me mad because they need to actually learn about each dog before they assume it's fake. Some videos you'll be able to tell if the dog is fake or not. But the poodle isn't fake! I know she's not fake! Personally I wouldn't put that gear on my service dog because I don't want to draw attention to myself and Esme and want people to just let us shop! Lol :)
Ray Mahlberg I have seen the dog in action and the program has it in the outfit because they train in Disney and other amusement parks and want the dogs to not be intimidating to kids, also that picture was for their shop.
They never said that dog wasn't, they just insinuated that the owners had it dressed in a way that may detract from its job, hence 'unprofessional.' I think it should be fine to dress them up, but they technically didn't say it wasn't a service dog.
that trainer has since been banned from disney. Her dogs are ESA not legit SD. She's nothing but a scam artist. There are some shocking posts, photos and videos that have turned up of this 'woman' and her dogs. I'm honestly surprised the parents of the victims have not sued. Or at least publicly smeared her through the media. I know I sure as hell would.
Lady Kiri Hi Kim. Why is "woman" in quotes? I had a wonderful time at Disney tonight! Just left there. With 4 dogs who will save lives.
I sincerely hope that ALL fake service dog owners are given a fine.
In those 19 states, We still need to raise recognition in the other states that have not passed the law yet. I'm doing that in my home state of Massachusetts.
The American Populist I do not know if CA is one of those states with a law.
Kari Olson I sincerely hope that you learn how to mind your own business. This is America. You told have the right to tell me I can't have my dog in public.
This is America Payton: She has a right to an opinion too.
After going through all the trouble to illegally fake it, I think they should get 1-3 yrs. in jail for it and their dog adopted out.
So dogs are not allowed in grocery stores. Regardless if it in the cart or not. Its extremely unsanitary.
Service dogs however are an exception.
As someone who works in a grocery store it pisses me off beyond belief when I see EXTREMELY OBVIOUS fake service dogs.
One of my breaking points was when a little Chihuahua "service dog" pooped in our produce section.
1.The owner saw it, left it and went to check out.
2. Customers put the blame on the store not the onwer.
3. I had to clean it up myself.
And the worst part is legally, we are not allowed to ask if the service dog is fake or legit.
I think they can sue for accusation or something.
You are allowed to ask, not pester. "Is this a trained service dog? If yes, what task or service do they provide?" If they give a legit answer, not emotional support, then you say ok and leave them be. If the dog betrays the lie by acting out, then you may ask them to leave
Main Street Boxer Yeah okay, its my own fault people bring THEIR OWN untrained dogs in. Riiiigggghhhhht. Perfect sense.
Thrackerzod the fandom nerd
If it were up to me I would, the management Im under, wont let me approach them at all. But I do truely appreciate your reply, thank you.
Thrackerzod the fandom nerd LOL that never works because people lie all the time good joke though
Main Street Boxer it is not the OP fault. He didn't bring a fake service dog into the store. The problem with people nowadays is putting the blame where it doesn't belong qnd you my friend are an enabler of that!
when a business does not allow animals, they have the right to ask two questions.
'is that a trained service dog?' and 'what function does the dog serve for you'
creating a registry that covers those two questions isn't an invasion of privacy. it's necessary to keep everyone safe (both abled and disabled people)
There are ones that don't, actually. Even if legally they can, but if corporate says you can't ask, the employees are powerless.
For example, a retail store I worked for actually had a section specifically in the employee training outlining that clerks and floor workers CANNOT ask, regardless of how obvious it was that the animal was not trained for the task. The only people remotely allowed were managers, and even then, if the customer complained, the manager could get in trouble. We literally were told to ignore the dog or animal was there at all.
So yeah, we had the rule of "No pets allowed" but since obviously service animals were the exception, literally anyone could bring in a pet, claim it was for anything such as "emotional support" and the employees can't do a damn thing about it. If other customers complained, no one can do anything without being reprimanded.
It's kind of the issue with retail in many aspects, having rules set by the store, but if an employee asks a customer not to break a rule, that employee gets in trouble if that customer complains (even if the employee was 100% doing their job correctly), but that's a slightly different topic.
So, what happens when a person with a fake service dog works on a assembly line? I'm sure they have to leave their dogs home for that or any other jobs as well....this is gotten to be an accesory that people think they have to have. Sorry, I actually could get a service dog, but I don't think it's that necessary.
Technically it’s not legal to ask what function the dog performs, as disclosing disability is not a requirement. While I have no problem with disclosing my own disability, some feel uncomfortable with it and it can be considered an infringement on their right to privacy and intruding on medical history.
For me, I have severe anxiety and PTSD caused by years of abuse along with a portion of my hip missing due to an accident. I’m in the process of acquiring a fully trained psychological service dog to provide pressure therapy and retrieve medications and water when having a panic attack or help push my wheelchair or open doors when I need it due to pain. But even when I’m in my wheelchair I get dirty looks, I’m not looking forward to getting them when I get my service dog too 😰
ToraToraTiger
Actually, in some states like California, it is allowed to ask what service the animal provides. It's up to the owner to disclose or withhold as much information as they're comfortable with; i.e. the owner could say, "The dog detects blood sugar," or "is trained to identify seizures" instead of "I have diabetes and he helps when I have a blood sugar spike" or "he keeps me safe when my epilepsy gets triggered." Keeping the question focused on the animal's capabilities takes the human's disability out of the equation and gives them the power and agency to keep their privacy.
ToraToraTiger you are wrong. The ADA website under the FAQ section allows you to ask only 2 specific questions; Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability and What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?
The poodle is an actual highly trained service dog...
how? they know not to distract them, that heart suit will its fake
imissmydog PJ The dog is simply modeling the outfit, which is for sale to support the nonprofit. The reporter stole the picture off the Instagram without fact checking. However, the outfit has nothing to do with the dog's training. That dog has potentially saved 18 lives by alerting to cancer (confirmed diagnoses). He is a trained medical alert dog. Who wears silly clothes. It's just not that big a deal.
That outfit makes sense in the light of it being a cancer detecting dog. I imagine I might feel a "little" better about this particular dog showing interest in me (oh my god! I have cancer?) if she is dressed cute.
+Trained and Maintained Service Dogs Stupid look and bullshit excuse.
Fourthgirl You're a bullshit excuse.
A way to tell if a service dog is real: the owner will not let you bother it and will tell you it is working
Edit: Ok, please stop getting triggered. Fully trained service dogs will not let you bother it unless the owner permits it to, so yes, dogs in training might have a hard time. But even a dog in training's master will tell you that it is working and training to be a service dog. Some people will also tell you you can interact with it if there is no current task for it, but in general, fully trained service dogs will not let you bother it.
not always. if im not in danger and my dog says im ok for the moment and im not in a rush or busy. im ok with them getting some attention if they ask. if they dont i correct them on the matter. i feel my dog should get the attention because i like to keep her well socialized with human contact. its a preference. yes it is a distraction but i use it as training to get her out of the distraction too
I had something like that happen to me at my job FluffCat. I was working in the back of my local RadioShack(I miss working for this company) and a kid and his mom walked in and behind them a man and his service dog. While they were shopping around. The boy started walking around on his own. Then I all of a sudden I hear from the man with the service. "No. Don't touch him. He's working, he might bite you." I turn around the little boy was mere inches from touching the dog from behind. When the dog did turn around after the owner said something. The dog growled a little bit. But that was it. The Mom did absolutely nothing to scold her child. She kept shopping. I was like "Seriously lady? Your not gonna scold your kid? Or even turn around? Or even better yet keep him next to you?"
a real SD would never bite. that dog isnt ready to be out in public.
Oble The man probably said that as a deterrent.
acciDENTAL That's what I think. Because after the boy left the dog returned to the position it was at before
The poodle with hearts is a real service dog
Yap its a trained and maintained dog
Well maybe the owner allowed the poodle to eat maybe
Mikayla Mikayla no! I worked with her and she was an AMAZING trainer and her service dogs were highly trained! She passed away year ago sadly
@@MyleeBenoit ok jeese I didn't know
Liev Kutev I know I was so sad! I was friends with her for 7 years!
I feel so bad for the people who actually NEED a service dog and won't be taken serious anymore
As a person who is going blind due to Macular Degeneration I will need a service dog at some point. I think we need to solve the problem of fake service dogs/pets. If the best way to do that is with extreme ticketing and/or jail time, just do it. People in our Country think the basic rules just don’t apply to them! And this is another way of being ENTITLED! We need to stop thinking we are all so Special! No one is better than another! Where has respect for each other disappeared to? I truly worry for our Children and our future! We need to do better!❤❤❤
It's like parking in the handicapped space if you're not disabled.
It 100% is like that though. It's not about the driving but the parking. People who are in chronic pain need those closer spaces to be able to shop, as they might not be able to walk the distance from a further park, or from public transport. Access to food and services is a right, and disabled parking spots are a medical necessity for many people. Do some research.
Main Street Boxer Just because a car is in a handicapped space, doesn't mean the DRIVER is necessarily handicapped...
Main Street Boxer
Trying to call the argument invalid, merely on the account of driving not being a right, is actually a strawman argument that falls flat on its face.
Everyone has a right to SOME medicine/medical equipment, not all. Non-disabled individuals do NOT have a right to certain types of medical prescriptions and/or equipment reserved for certain types of injuries/illnesses. While a service dog might be owned by anyone, it is a gross transgression against truly disabled/handicapped individuals for a perfectly able-bodied individual, even ones with minor mental/emotional handicaps, to just have any untrained dog, who barks, gets aggressive against other dogs, and pulls on their owners' leash, donning a service vest and masquerading as an actual service animal. It's a disgrace and an attack against people who are missing limbs, dealing with terminal cancer, or who are war veterans suffering from crippling PTSD.
Some of the people who own disobedient dogs, like the ones seen in the video, might be people who have minor aspergers/autism. And while, yes, Aspergers/Autism does require certain resources, a service dog is only for the most severe of that specific mental ailment; ones who absolutely CAN NOT operate in society without one, which is not the case for over 90% of people with mental/emotional disorders (it's not that they *can't,* they *can,* they just *"don't wanna".)*
d i l l h o l e
I used to work at a grocery store, and I would eat my lunch outside. So I can say I've seen my fair share of handicapped spot parkers. Not a single one was handicapped.
The best one was a guy in a business suit, climbing down out of a lifted truck. lol
Establish a National Service Dog License and Registry, and ONLY animals with such credentials should be allowed in areas where only service dogs are allowed. Can you imagine the fraudsters at work if Handicapped placards were sold on ebay and not slammed by the Police. Time to put an end to fake service dogs.
Ryan Taylor Sadly that would be hard on Owner trained service dogs.
Also fakes would still slip through
In some states like California, Oregon, Washington, and Etc it required that a service dog is registered and tagged by animal control.
Kim Sadly, (though I really wish it was that easy) federal law will always trump state law, and in the federal law it says "No state can require any certificate or tags",
So as I wish it was that easy it is not.
Do you live in California? I thought they have a registry system there for service dogs???
Sorry, some states made it possible to make it state law to require service dog registration and tagging by animal control. That is because they don't ask any question relating to the disability. They ask for the dog's task and the legal to ask. So federal law know that some states are requiring this now and they not stopping them because they can ask about the doy's TASKs and not the person's medical history dso it all legal and the federal is allowing it like they allowing FL do think to question an SD Team. If a state passes a law that requires something like service dog registering and tagging by animal control the federal makers did do anything to stop it shows they are allowing because it's not violating federal laws. Hopefully soo all states will pass that all legitimate service dogs need to be registered and tagged by animal control. This will only way to stop the fakes. I heard NT, NJ and few other states are talking about it also state law. Only people that talk against this required state SD law and against this is a service dog faker. Only fake will be against this and don't want because they won't able fake their pets no more as service dogs. You seem so against this I bet you fake a service dog yourself. If really had a SD you would be in support of this real service dog teams support a law requires legitimate service dog be registered and tagged by animal control in their state, As a legitimate SD team I'm a major supporter of this because it protects me and my service dog.
It should be a felony to buy a vest saying service dog, juat to take your dog some where. The vest is to alert people that this dog is to render aid.The owners should get charge as if they were impersonating a cop.
They can be charged with impersonating a service dog in order to gain access to a public place of business. It is a felony.
I agree with you. Problem is laws are in place but no one has ever enforced it
Lost Explorer it is?!
But the Ada allows bussiness to remove the service anmails if they believe it's going to harm other people and they are only allowed two ask two questions one is that a service dog because required of a disablity and what work or task has the dog been able to perform they cannot ask what your disablity is and they cannot ask the dog to do any form of work or task and there is no such thing as certification or idfication for a service dog in the United States
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As a person who suffers from a severe mental disorder and requires a service dog, I feel hurt that people attempt to fake their dog.
I saw someone in a Wall Mart with a dog that had a vest but it was barking and trying to pull away. There is no way that was a legit service dog. I was very disgusted at the people.
Adarcus yeah i saw one too, but i called the security guard and pointed it out to him. He told the faker to leave. The best thing about this security guard is he had a service dog with him.
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Amanda Bickel not you, i'm correcting at Adarcus
Adarcus i saw someone at Walmart with a dog wearing a vest but it was in the cart. And I may be young but I can clearly see the difference between a fake and a real service dog. There are people who actually need their service dog or animal with them
The poodle in the thumb nail and dressed in "an unprofessional manner" is actually a real service dog. Very well trained and mannered. If you look up Trained and Maintain on Facebook you can see that. And sometimes dressing up your service dog can make things a little easier for some people by having fun. Distraction from your disability can help you get through the day. There is no dress code for them so as long as they are well trained it shouldn't matter what they are wearing!
but it can get them distracted by the people looking and stuff
imissmydog PJ ...what?
imissmydog PJ Not much can distract my dogs except someone's medical problem, and that's their job. People look at service dogs no matter what they wear.
Am I still supposed to act like it's not there or tell my children to not pet it.
Derek Checketts yes
"Dressed in an unprofessional manner".
I could put my dog in a pink tutu, and guess what? It would not inhibit her ability to work after 2 years of intensive training.
The reason behind this rule is to prevent creating a situation that encourages people to want to come up to the dog... Has nothing to do with the dog's behaviour.
In my personal experience fake service dogs are usually dressed in a plain red vest so they look "official", where real handlers tend to decorate there dogs. My service dog in training wears bright, colorful gear and I sometimes dye her fur. Gear does not determine a dog's training.
@@mojoschmee9320 no, it isn’t, as there’s no rule lmao
@@linegallagher3776 Exactly. I cannot dye my service dog as she’s black (sadly) but she absolutely gets pretty gear
@@ashcanis7044 No, there's no rule, but that is the reasoning for the suggestion of not putting service animals in silly and fun outfits...
“When your at Walmart with shades on... you need your service dog”
If your wearing shades to pretend your blind your service dog would be a guide dog- there for there would be in a balancing/leading vest and walking to guide you. Not traveling in a cart...
I came across these at a store one time. There was a lil black chihuahua with the service dog outfit and it was barking at everyone at the store who came close. The owner was telling everyone it was normal for him to bark.I was like boi i know what a service dog is when i see it.
Stargraysir barking continuously isn’t what a service dog does
That poodle isn't a fake. Just because it's dressed up doesn't mean it's fake. Handlers do it all the time. I would do it to mine if I could
Arie & The Prospect Search she/ he is cute
Arie & The Prospect Search hahha i laughed when they said "a service dog should be dressed professionally" 😂
Yeah i agree my service dog milo gets dressed as a little police dog, hes a service dog for stress and warns me about low blood sugar and if i need to lay down
Dessert Paw - Stress?? Really? People like you are the problem.
Arie & The Prospect Search ... I had no idea that I couldn't go online and certifi ( that's spelled wrong sorry) my pet I was seriously about to go pay like 60 bucks to register her as a ESA 😭 because a lot of places don't allow them and I have seriously horrible anxiety and depression ... I had no idea I was doing something wrong
The problem is that the laws make it hard to confront the obvious fakes. You end up basically having to make someone prove a disability, which is a violation of privacy. It's sad that so many selfish people impose themselves and their untrained dogs on others.
No, it's easy. Service dogs are superbly trained. If a dog isn't behaving perfectly, they're a fake.
The dog in the thumbnail is a legitimate service dog owned by Susan of Trained and Maintained service dogs.
Lauren Serrano if she’s real, the. I’m a millionaire. Her clown dogs bring attention to her that she can’t live without. Seen her at Disney numerous times and others have said she’s fake.
@@WickedlyMe328, yeah I'm not a fan of her, she definitely doesn't really know what she's doing and she doesn't follow the ADA law correctly, but atleast her dogs sort of do something.
First Last really
@@harlows.journey Her disability killed her
@@WickedlyMe328 Ohh she's the "Disney Poodle Lady"? I read about her on a Disney forum!
How you dress the dog doesn't mean anything. They can wear whatever they want, nothing to a ball gown. Training is the only thing that makes a service dog.
Let's Talk Living kind of. 1)training for a specific disability
And 2) a specific disability (or multiple) it can help with
It warns people that your dog is a service dog, imo it should be law that if they are WORKING they need to wear it, because tbh if you have a dog like that and you don't have a vest/whatever.. you're asking for someone to pet your dog or want to come up to you. That is not like a service dog.
Gabzo Avro Yes that's true, you do have to be disabled to have a service dog.
Briel Woods I understand what you're saying, I think that wearing a vest or something that marks it as a service dog is a good idea, but at the same time it's still a handlers choice. Firstly sometimes when you're disabled putting on a vest can be difficult, you might be really weak that day or your dexterity might not be great, so for whatever reason you need to work your dog naked. I think this is a fair law for that reason, as I know that sometimes putting on a vest is too difficult but you may need to go somewhere that day and need your dogs help. Handlers know that they'll have to explain more and have now issues with petting when there's no vest, that's understandable. However it's still their choice, it's their dog, it's with them 24/7 and if they're going somewhere new/exciting like a wedding or Disney sometimes they want to dress the dog up to show their personality. It's the same as decorating their wheelchair or cane ect, it's showing some personality on their medical equipment. As for the dog in the picture, it's from TrainedandMaintained, a company that often trains at Disney and they deliberately make their dogs look silly because of how many people they come across who are at l afraid of dogs, they try and make their dogs look funny and less intimidating so that they cause less of an issue for these people. So there are many reasons a dog might be wearing or not wearing something something, if their still trained for a handlers disability, they're still a service dog.
if you can put a harness on the dog, then you can put a vest on it. honestly the harnesses are more difficult than a vest.
My little sister has a service dog that alerts us by barking about an hour before she has a seizure. It is hard to convince people that it isn't a fake because she does not show her disability outwardly. I had to pull out his papers once and get a manager, because an employee didn't believe it. ☹️
Two friends of mine have service dogs, one a diabetic alert dog and the other is a seizure alert dog. They had to 'justify' their dogs many times as well. It's so terrible people who really need their dogs because it may save their lives to have them must out themselves in public like that, just because there are people who can't be bother to train their dogs or leave them outside for a bit.
Mayorcopper It's amazing how many people judge your health because to them you "look healthy".
In some states its illegal for places to ask for documentation. Look up your laws and see what the laws are like.
Kennedy McGuire businesses are not allowed to ask for any type of verification, so therefore you could've refused under that rule
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Mhm…says the one that needs to be in a concentration camp Bitch ;-;
Edit: sorry If You meant it in a Nice way - it’s hard to make up in Comments sometimes, id the person is trying to be Nice. I Just Have a problem once in a whole With making up If the person Who wrote the Comment mentor in a Nice way tho
As someone who has been attacked/bitten multiple times since I was 2 years old, this is very scary for me. (The first attack was from a doberman when I was 2 because I was TOLD to put her puppies back after the everyone was playing with them. I have 2 scars on my face from dogs that I got before I was even 8. I'm not evil or whatever people say) I can't help my reaction to dogs, I freeze and panick, especially when they bark. People have always told me that is why they bite me but I literally cannot control it. I understand the need for real, trained service dogs. They don't bother anyone. But these selfish assholes who are just buying vests to take their untrained pet into public are putting people and real service dogs in danger. I honestly feel terrified when I see these unruly dogs in public. It's scary and I know I'm not alone. And I feel like I'm gonna get attacked again. Something seriously needs to be done. Shame on the people who are abusing this.
"A real service dog would not be dressed in an unprofessional manner?" There are no rules about how to dress a service dog and what they wear is not a reflection of their training or the handler's disability.
I honestly don't understand why someone would fake a service dog. What do you gain from it? Just being able to bring your dog into a store they're not supposed to be in? Seriously? That's what you get from this? I'm actually impressed there are people that would go through the effort to do this just for that. Then again, I'm not a dog person.
David Chapman It really isn't. You can love your pet and still be decent and have self control. They're being selfish and making it harder on those who NEED the assistance.
Mental illness
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MrStrikecentral there are actually people who will straight up walk up to disabled people with service dogs, and ask them how they can train their dog to be like that just so they can bring their dog with them everywhere in public... Now that's what I call beyond disrespectful...
DeJa Williams yeah it is what if for example it was hot outside and you would either have to leave your dog in the car or u could take it inside with you most people say taking the dog with them but your not one of them because you wouldn't care about how hot it is for it
I agree with this message. I have a service dog. He has been in constant training for two years. I went to Wal-Mart the other day and there was a dog jumping on children, barking, growling, and other nonsense. I spoke with management and they said they couldn't do anything about it. They are WRONG! If a "service dog" is causing a disruption, management may ask the person to remove the dog. I wish people were more educated on what to look for.
The dog with the white jumpsuit with hearts is a real survice dog! It's ok to dress up your dog. As long as it's still traned! 🤔😕😱😤
Avas_rainbow 🌈suqad_101 no it's not at all it needs people to leave it's unprofessional and untrained
Jessie Nicholas in fact it better for training, most dogs its hard to get a collar on. Also the girl has a TH-cam channel so you can tell her that I will tell you tomorrow her TH-cam channels name. I'm sorry if people want to be happy with a service dog, they never said hay can I be blind! Or can I be not able to walk so I can have a service not!?
Ava's Rainbow Pet's nope she’s fake and so are her dogs. Clown dog parade we call them.
Ok that's good to know I like my SDIT looking cute even if buying cute leashes, jackets and what not
It does sort of clash with the "don't pet or look at my service dog" instruction though
The POODLE WITH THE HEARTS IS A SERVICE DOG WHO IS TRAINED TO PREFORM A SPECIFIC TASK
What task?
As someone who has an invisible illness and a very real, very necessary service dog, I can tell you that people who do this create SO MANY PROBLEMS for people like me. People assume that just because they can't see what's wrong with me, means that my service dog is automatically fake. I have been barred from public places, aggressively accosted on the streets by complete strangers, refused job applications, and even had professors try to keep me from attending classes until I "get rid of my fake service dog." She's an angel, doesn't even bark at home, and very rarely does anything but just sleep under my chair and watch me very carefully unless she is alerting on me. But I still have strangers chew me out because they have encountered a fake service dog once, and they assume that all service dogs are fake now. ARG! THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY!!!!!
You don't want to be too brash though.
I know what you mean. It's aggrivating and there's nothing I know of that we can do about it.
Sleepy Sarah Elizabeth ,remember you have rights and your legitimate SD has even more rights, so don't remain complacent...make a complaint and Sue them!
They need to know that it's against the law to discriminate on you or your SA, PERIOD!
Sleepy Sarah Elizabeth that's why when people try to spot a fake service dog they should look at the number one rule, and that's training, signs of a disability should come next, and that's only because not every disability is a visible one, and I'm sorry that you have to go through that, if you haven't, you should check out a channel called pawsandlove, the girl talks about all the federal laws about having a service dog, she's where I learned about service dog stuff from
Stupid people with attachment issues can't leave their pets at home. They are ruining it for those that actually have a service dog and need one.
Sandy Sandy 😡my mom happens to be somebody who is adding to the problem she went online and bought an "Emotional Support Animal" vest and thinks that because she has that her dog can go wherever she goes😡people like my mom make me livid😡
Hunter Lodge Stables if you want your mom to understand that she is breaking a FEDERAL law go to ADA.gov then search for Service Dogs. It’s only about 2 or 3 pages. Then print it out. And Emotional Support Dogs are not allowed public access. You have to have a letter from a doctor for an ESA also, because the law allows you to have ESA in pet-free apartments.
“Dresses in an inappropriate manner”
Service animals can be in any way their handler sees fit. Without any vest even. It’s like telling someone they can’t customize their wheelchair
I see fake service dogs EVERYDAY!!! It honestly annoys me how dishonest people can be!😤 I remember not too long ago, I was at the mall and a dog dressed as a service dog was barking and howling at people🙄.
Ummmmmm....one of the photos of the dogs is an actual SERVICE DOG!!!!
Which dog is that?
Well if that were real service dogs they would be dress more professionally dress. Personally, I don't take that poodle or it owner serious because that ridiculous get-up wearing. Like I've sad before if it is a real service dog it should look like professional one not a ridiculous clown at a circus. I'm pretty sure and I hope no one takes this poodle ESA Pet or any ESA Pets which are often dressed in ridiculous unprofessional outfits as ADA recognized SD. Because ESA Pets are NOT legal ADA recognized as SDs. You know how illegal it is to fake an SD or faking/passing off an ESA Pet as a service dog. It's a hefty fine and jail time in most states. Sorry I don't believe that poodle is a real legitimate service dog, I believe that poodle is nothing more than an Emotional Support Animal Pet at best. I agree with this news report that the fake service dogs that are showing here are nothing more than fake service dogs and ESA Pets that are ruining the reputation of a REAL service dog. As some with a medically diagnosed disability that uses a REAL service dog. Fake SD's and people passing off ESA Pets as SD's really P*SS me off. The fake as ESA Pets make much harder for me use my SD when I really need her to live a normal life. Then these fakes and ESA Pets and often or not in ridiculous SD clothes goes and ruins it for me as well as others that use real service dogs. It only makes me madder than hell when you are trying to tell me that poodle that is more likely an ESA Pet in that ridiculous service dog clothes is a real SD. If it was REAL a service dog it won't be dressed like bozo the clown! A real disabled person does not want to draw attention to their medical equipment, even if it's a dog....I sure don't and I make sure my dog is dressed like SD professional and not wearing anything to draw attention to us.
Sorry, I'm not going waste my time looking at websites that passing off ESA Pets as service dogs in ridiculous unprofessional service dog clothes. I have more important things in my life than waste my time being catfished to believe about someone with ESA Pets being illegally passed off as SDs.
So you are passing off an ESA Pet as a service dog ridiculous clothes. Thanks a lot, Lil Miss for making my life with a disability and a legitimate service dog more difficuilt. ~shakes a finger at you~ Naughty Naughty!!!!
I just hope the law catches up on you for your selfish behavior Lil' Miss!!
That is BS, if you want to be taken seriously Lil' miss. Now please go away ~ Trying to shoo you away~ SHOO SHOO I don't deal with ESA Pet owners passing off their ESA Pets as fake services dog NOW SHOO!
I just heard that Trained and Maintained ESA Pets poodles were finally indefinitely have been OFFICIALLY 89/kickeded of Walt Disney World after the owner of the ESA Pet Poodles named Susan went after a small toddler child petting the dog. Susan hit a small female child's arm very hard making the child let out a blood-curdling scream and left a mark on the child's arm. Susan attacked the female child in line after it ran up to pet one her ESA Pets. Which Susan illegally is passing off as service dogs to bring them into Disney illegally. Susan is also in a lot of trouble taking pictures of the male child without asking permission from the child's parents. Susan claimed earlier a 4-year male child was abusing her dog. An another SD team that witnessed this said the child was not even near her or the dogs. This SD team reported Susan creeping and stalking and taking pictures of a little boy bending over and Disney security started flowing Susan throughout out Disney security. I was told is this very common when Susan and her ESA Pets come to the park Disney has seceriety watching her. Because when they do indefantly ban her and her ESA Pets from Disney and if crazy Susan comes back and starts yelling g discrimination at Disney they have proof they kicked her out and banned her because of publicly safety and not discrimination. The child bending over picking flowers from a bush and Susan was taking pictures the child when the parents are not looking is just plain creepy. Susan sounds like a pedophile when she taking pictures of little boys bending over picking flowers. I also heard she a 7-8week old puppy that didn't have all of it shows at Walt Disney World walking around on a leash on the ground. A lot SD teams are saying she was trying to sell the puppy to Disney. It's not surprising to them when she has a history selling puppies at Disney and passing them off as SDIT or selling the untrained ESA Pets(ESA Pets not NOT legal service dogs) poodles for as service dogs for $30,000.00 each. I find it oh so funny how peoplr are saying how T & M owner Susan is claiming now how it caused her and her ESA Pets trauma and she never going ever go back to Disney. Susan is now paying her ESA Pet clients to say they have been mistreated by Disney now. Wow, trying to cover her ass with her lies and trying to bury the true facts. Susan and her T & M ESA Pets have OFFICIALLY INDEFENTNY BANNED FROM THE DISNEY PARKES FOREVER!!!!! I hope Disney brings a slander and liability lawsuit against Susan and her T & M ESA Pets. The parents of the children that Susan hit the child and taking a picture of a child with permission. I was told by 2 service dog teams that were at Disney and witnessed the whole event(Susan hitting the child and Susan taking pictures of a child). After Susan hit the one child Diesney security had to call the Orlander Police to come have Susan physically removed because she was kooking out and got physical with the mother of the child she hit and Disney security guards when the were trying to get Susan to leave. When the Orlander Police got there( 7 cops came out to Disney) Susan started kooking out again on the cops; the cops arrested Susan and whisked her away to jail. Her ESA pets where picked up and taken away by Orlando Animal Control Department.
I was having an anxiety of my and my service dog's upcoming trip to Disney because of Susan and her M & T ESA Pets. This had me so worried about mine and my service dog's safety. I still have a high anxiety over the fact mine and service dog's safety at Universal Studios apparently so far Susan and her T & M ESA Pets have not yet been banned from Universal. I was told she is rarely there and now sent Susan been indefinitely kicked out of Disney World she might be there alot. I just hope Universal get wind of it and follow the Disney's lead and slap an indefinitely ban Susan and T & M ESA Pets from their parks as well for general public safety reasons as well.
Ps. I have informed the poodle that is dress unprofessionally in the news report is one of Susan's T & M ESA Pets.
I'm also going to go to the Disney's security office and thank them for keeping, myself, service dog, other SD Teams and The General Public safe by indefinitely banning Susan and her M & T ESA Pets and making it safer for myself, my service dog, other teams, and the general public to safely enjoy the Disney parks with worrying about Susana and her ESA Pets. I was worried if one her ESA Pet Poodles started sniffing my dog while my service dog is ignoring her ESA Pet she will cause my dog being a fake and go Kook O'l Clock on me and hit me and kick my service dog. I heard stories of Susan when she is koooking out accusing my service dog attacked her ESA Pets. This is what my anxiety makes me worried about her kicking my dog in the face. I was told by over 30 SD Teams started telling watch out for the crazy ESA Pet Poodle Women and I was told many of horror stories how their dogs were accused being fakes that touched her dogs and she turned around kicked their dogs between the eyes. I was told could of these teams had to retire their service dogs because what Susan did their service dogs and now they starting over with a new dog because a couple of the service dogs Susan kicked in the face are scared and traumatized by this psycho women had been retired.
I'm sick and tired of all the fake service dogs and people who are too dumb and say, "you can walk fine why do you need a SD?" I've actually had a man harass my SD at the store once. He deliberately kept standing next to her and trying to lean on her. In the end he stepped on her tail, causing her to yelp. (The store owner saw it and got angry at the man thank god) though now my dog somewhat has a fear of people behind her stepping on her tail.
Aw, I feel bad for you and your dog. It's repulsive the things people do to service dogs and the way they abuse the rights to own one.
Wow. So sorry that happened. If he intentionally stepped on her tail, I wonder if he could have been charged with animal abuse/cruelty. He could have injured her. It sounds as if he didn't believe you and tried to test her.
Mention the words tazer or stun gun. Honest to god I'm not even kidding.
They don't care that they may cause damage, unless u make it apparent said damage will be reflected on them.
The first, and last, time someone tried to grab fords mobility lead when I laughed and went to walk away went pretty straight forward.
*reach*
"I will taze ur arse."
*pause*
" And I won't even feel bad afterwards when I file charges."
FIN.
I know a lady that trains service dogs as I come across her on the bus quite often and we had a discussion about people buying these knock off vests. I had a problem with a customer that had a dog in her purse at the place I worked claiming it was a service dog when it clearly wasn't and she threw a hissy fit when she was told that she could not bring her dog into the store unless she presented proof that it was a service dog. Aleida for people that have service dogs for their disabilities whether they are visible or not what are the breeds generally used?
JemStar It really depends on what disability you have Jem. When I was mobile and could carry a dog on my back I had a pom looking dog in a backpack made for dogs.
He was medical alert and response.
One big thing was asthma alert since he could smell things that could set mine off before I ever go near the source.
But now? For mobility assist I have a larger dog of course.
How a dog looks doesn't limit what all it can do.
That's what makes fake SD so hard to deal with.
SD can be a pure bred dog, or a mutt that has so many breed markers that you don't even know what to try and call it.
Many are shelter dogs that have been given a new life thru becoming an SD.
I mean, this is what makes it so tough.
But dogs were chosen as service animals because no matter what you need help with- a dog can fill that need.
Im blind so I need my service dog in my cart!
What is this lady thinking?
The dog reads the shopping list and barks once for "Turn Right" and twice for "Turn Left"
Stay Curious LMAO DNDJDNDN
If your blind how do you know about the women with the dog in the cart and how can you type
@@emmahickman6194Blind people can read and type with assisting devices.
She black
The poodle in the thumbnail is actually a real service animal
10th time this has been said.
I don't have a service dog, but the fakes need to be banned! The "service dog" owners do realize they can and WILL go to jail for bringing their untrained "service dogs" in public... It's stupid and wrong!
as they said in 19 states, there are 31 states or 32 if you count DC unless a state added the law since this video came out. I'm just saying that there states that don't have the law in the books yet.
U2Yes 1DNo EDCP/Sabrina Kitty/Brown/Hooves Service dogs do go out in public when they are young (for socialization and doggy manners training). They have a vest on that says they are in training. This is before the specialized training.
Main Street Boxer Exactly!
A girl who I go to to church with has a real service dog who sits still and behaves better than 100% of children and adults during services and Sunday School.
I used to take my Doberman to church, but we had permission from the pastor, and she was so well trained it was incredible. She never moved from my side unles I told her it was okay, and, in the church, she never had a leash on. She was better behaved than a lot of the kids.
Kamla Anand , we do as well,and ours does too!
We get many compliments on our SA pit bull...
Kamla Anand a hundred percent now you doing too much
I know a woman that also has a true service dog and it also remains quiet and still throughout church
Churches are fake.
umm the dog in the thumbnail is an actual service dog....
Rustmine22's Channel
Yes, it is confirmed that poodle is an actual service dog. This news service didn't do their research.
Libby Cormier whoosh
The James I was talking the the first guy
Libby Cormier uh have you ever encounter the woman and her clown dogs? I have. And also have encountered real ones who even believe she’s fake. So yeah....
@@WickedlyMe328 there is no dress code for service dogs, your allowed to dye or dress them up. Its not the outfit that makes them a service dog or not, it's their hundreds of hours of training.
Welp I went to the mall with my friend and we saw a “service dog” and as soon as we passed that person and their dog I told her how fake it was. She was like “what do you mean?” Well, the vest was soooo loose, it was pulling the owner, sniffing everything, and even barked a few times.
Service dogs aren't supposed to bark .. They are supposed to do silent alerts ... They can be dressed anyway their handler wants .. They could be dressed in doctor who, Supernatural, Disney or anything the handler wants ... Judge by behaviour not looks
Actually no .. and how do you know all service dogs are trained the same with the same alerts ? all service dogs are trained differently and some have more then 1 way to alert their handler (lets say someone has diabetes and anxiety how would the handler know whats wrong with only 1 way to alert ?) ... service dogs are supposed to do silent alerts .. someone could train growling as an alert but it doesn't mean it a good way for the dog to alert (they'd get kicked out of a store) .. barking in public is disruptive .. service dogs aren't supposed to be disruptive .. most handlers goal is for no one to know theres a dog in a building/room if it can't be seen until the dog moves ... heres another reason barking isn't a good way for the dog to alert .. you can't distinguish between a fake barking or the service dog barking .. barking is also an unprofessional way for the dog to alert and the handler could be kicked out of the store because it I usually fakes that bark in stores ... look up the ADA law for service dogs
I never knew that. I do think that the dog would bark to protect his owner, but not for things like seizures.
Katheryne Koelker barking for seizures is typically not an alert for the handler. It's usually a public alert, a call for help. A service dog will normally have a silent alert to warn their handler about an oncoming seizure, but one that is already happening, or a stroke, heart attack, severe PTSD event, pretty much anything where the handler becomes unresponsive and may need medical attention is handled by a bark alert. Unfortunately, fake service animals have soured the purpose of these alerts, and barking is more likely to be ignored.
KappaW not be grudging you, but they would stop- with guide dogs the trust is implicit.
If the dog won't go forward then there's something there, and you have to look at the context...
Like if you're right off the street trying to walk across, if the dog won't go then the light is green and/or you'd be stepping out in front of a car ...
The trust in the dog's skills is a feat in itself.
I've only watched this a couple times since my amnesia, so TH-cam it or google...
I mean Ford reminds me about cars because I zone out focusing on making me legs move correctly, but when he stops me I always have my sight to see what's up :)
The difference between a fake barking and a real SD trained to bark is the state of the handler and I would expect that the SD would stop once help was being administered. If the handler is NOT "down" and for some reason didn't train the SD for silent alerts I'm sure the handler wouldn't train the dog to do more than 2-3 barks. If the dog doesn't stop immediately after signalling or the handler lets the dog continue to bark/doesn't do anything to stop the barking then the conclusion is going to be "fake" due to the poor choice in signalling regardless. SD trained with barking signals also have different comportment and demeanor and body language to pets.
Then make service dogs have ID like a driver's license easy as that.
Bundang Bear service dogs aren't required to have any type of identification, verification, ID, licensing, or paperwork... As a matter of fact, that really doesn't exist for a service dog, unless you're traveling to a different country, as they can have different standards for having a service dog. That is also why businesses are not allowed to ask for any of the listed things.
well I met one dog that had an ID. and where it happened it was at mental hospital I went. so at 6 pm we had a visitation night where parents and children 13+ could visit. though for an animal to enter they need an ID and so their owner got an ID and brought it inside the hospital. so yeah some do have ID's but rarely.
Bundang Bear ya but sites can make fraudulent ones (aka OfficialServiceDogRegistry.com)
Creeper_girl101....Why shouldn't businesses be allowed to ask you about your SD....what's the big deal? IF you truly need a well-trained service dog, you should be thrilled that there should be a few straight forward rules to keep you and your SD safe.....It's ridiculous that you people get so uptight over being asked about your service dog.
Bundang Bear IDS are fake
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Anytime somebody enters the business where I work with a dog, I asked him to remove the dog from the store, but then they just say it's a service dog. There's little to no regulation on how to determine what is and is not a service dog without personally asking the customer what their disability is or what task the dog is trained to perform.
as someone who works at a grocery store and has had to clean up after fake service dogs, I can confirm its very easy to tell the real ones from the fake ones
I have one and I think They should make a registry. But instead of writing what is the medical reason a test on the dog and a valid form from a doctor stating that you have a need for a service dog (no more than that). So your dog has a license like if you're driving a car.
Celestial girl or have the registry make the dog go through behavioural tests and that is all
Or have a registry that works with the real training programmes so that when the dog passes its automatically on the registry, which would minimise the cost of extra testing
So no one else can start a training program with gov permission
Main Street Boxer In addition, one company/organization being the sole trainer & certifying of service animals is a Monopoly & is illegal.
@Main Street Boxer
Could you post a link to the DoJ decision? I have looked and looked and nothing comes up in my google searches.
I just need to clarify this: the dog in the thumbnail is a real service dog. Handlers are allowed to dress up their dogs! The poodle with the heart sweater is a *REAL SERVICE DOG*
OMG, 9th person to comment.
Why isn’t this regulated? I’m honestly asking. There needs to be an official seal, I think Canada has one. That would put some of these fraudulent sites out of business as they could reported as commuting a crime. There has to be something where the rulings around HIPPA and a registry could work together.
Main Street Boxer my friend trains them so don’t presume to know my motive. I feel bad when you have people with fake service dogs not controlling their pets around actually service dogs so it endangers the service dog and their owner.
Because the US is lazy and doesn’t want to pay for there to be a way to regulate it. Plain and simple. It’s government funded everywhere else.
That poodle who’s not “professionally dressed” is actually a legit team. Look up “trainedandmaintained” she’s an incredible person who does so much for others and trains legit dogs. She’s a non profit as well. Don’t judge a book by its cover because there are ZERO laws on how a service dog should look. In fact, they don’t even HAVE to wear ANYTHING. It’s up to the owner, and it’s terrible a legit team was called out for something they didn’t do wrong.
The rest I can agree on though. I’m disabled and utilize a service dog and the amounts of fake really, truly hurts the legit teams out there...but it’s wrong to judge a dog by what it’s wearing. Lots of handlers dress their dogs up. Personal preference.
I have a Therapy Dog, and sometimes he will wear a bow tie, or his tuxedo collar. And around holidays he has bunny ears (easter) reindeer antlers (Christmas) and a hat for Australia day, because he is visiting people in hospitals, and seeing him dressed up cheers them up.
David Edwards technically, therapy dogs aren't trained service dogs. They're classified under emotional support and are not granted the rights of trained service dogs, so yes, a dog who comforts sick people can wear whatever they want
David Edwards Therapt dogs are equally big a problem.
I dress up my service dog because in the few places I go, it makes the kids who are scared of dogs more at ease, you know? And in winter, I put a sweater on her because she gets cold.
Really need to regulate buying of vest and come up with an official ADA vest. There should be some form of ID for the animal. I suspect a lot of fakes too that I see. A vest I have seen is "Service Dog in Training"...a nice way to say if it acts up "it's in training" oh come on. Home Depot is bad, sometimes I think I'm in pet smart.
As someone owner training a SD, I get really annoyed by fakers. However, I understand that service dogs are not robots. They're still just animals and so will have off days. I think the clearest way to tell if the dog is legit is to watch how the owner responds to the dog misbehaving. I always correct Reese quickly and will leave if he's not settling down. It's embarrassing when he acts up, especially since I'm training him myself.
I've thought before that if someone disabled took a note from their doctor stating a need for a service animal (not an esa), and a statement from a training agency validating training (owner trained dogs could just pass a test like "canine good citizens" do to get a certificate) to the DMV, then they should be able to get a free ID card from the DMV good for the life of the dog, proving it's legit. Then the info is private, and the card just clarifies that the state is satisfied that the dog is legit, and the person's disability info remains privileged. Such a thing could be optional at first, and gradually be phased in as something acquired when one gets a new service dog.
Meeker Extreme Home Depo and Lowes allows pets on a store-by-store basis. You could be seeing pets there as well as service dogs.
Meeker Extreme A dog in training still has to learn doggy manners and be used to being around people. That is why there is the "in training" vest.
In Kalifornia (of course) any doctor can write a suggestion for a service/mental health animal. People have service ducks and goats. They also feel entitled to bring them on planes. I was on a flight where a "service cat" was running loose the whole time. .
That poodle with the hearts is actually a real service dog! A handler can dress their dog however they want, there is no law stating that they need to be vested.
That dog in the thumbnail is a real service dog :,)
I think there should be a registry and it only require notice from a health care professional that you qualify for one and the actual reason not be disclosed.
I would also like to add that when it comes to the training of the dog that there be a standardized test and that its certification not rely on who trained it as some people are perfectly capable of training their own dog.
Exactly my thoughts!
theBeastcub the problem is, that there can’t POSSIBLY be someone to test the dog available where someone lives, and it’s completely against our rights to have to drive possibly hours out of the way to get our dogs tested. On top of that, we don’t have to have a certification for a wheelchair, or any other tool that helps us live a semi normal life. Why do we have to be certified for a service dog? It makes no sense why legit teams should have to go through SO MUCH trouble when other people should just not fake a sd and should not take their dogs with them where they don’t belong. /: you know what I mean? It just makes it so much more difficult for legit teams and one of the biggest issues is, that places like Walmart have a policy in place not to kick non service dogs out, or dogs who are being disruptive. By law they CAN but they WONT and so many legit service dogs have been attacked by pet dogs because of it...so really it’s more of a business fault and THEY should be getting the backlash, not the disabled people who use SDs. ):
Main Street Boxer they want it because it should have been in play since day one any one with half a brain can tell you that. Their wouldent be as much fakes if who ever made the sd law wasent a complete moron.
theBeastcub their should be a registration. The ada just likes to make bullshit laws that discriminates agenst people that are not disabled
Won't work as the medical professionals currently sign anything for their patients. I check every service animal form by contacting the medical provider and all of them say yes they signed the form. Not one of them knows why the need for the animal. Can't rely on the professionals as they are likely afraid to get sued for NOT signing the form.
A fake service dog almost killed my miniature Shar Pei. My apartment complex didn't question the validity of a non-neutered American Bully pit bull being a service dog because his owner was in a wheel chair. That dog attacked another dog at our apartment complex dog park, bit my neighbor, and pushed its way into my apartment as the door was opening to take my dog out. It grabbed my dog and dragged her out into the hallway. It locked its jaw on my dogs face and neck. It took my 280lb neighbor 10 minutes of wrestling and strangulating this dog until he lost blood flow to his brain, started to lose consciousness, and let go of my screaming dog. It's not cute nor is it okay to fake having a service dog.
Porcelain Pinup you know it isn't a requirement for SD to be spayed or neutered right?
My male service dog wasn't neutered until he was at the age where he could get prostate cancer. A real service animal can have all their parts and still be a real service animal.
Porcelain Pinup , now in this situation ,hold the handler accountable,in in some state's that dog would be put down.
These are the idiots that give my husband's SA a bad name as his SA is a TRAINED pit bull, he loves people in general and feel he's no threat so we allow petting him in some cases otherwise no he's a service animal he's to aide in my husband's needs.
He also likes other dogs and has whined for them,but again either my husband or self(sense I trained him for 2 year's) have control by saying here Raven or down, he complys and it's over.
You should go after that ass as he is the problem to real SA that need there animal !
Best of luck.
Our SA isn't neutered either and won't be until his vet tells us it's time to do so.
Porcelain Pinup businesses (including hotels, apartments, motels etc.) Are not allowed to ask for any type of verification
Porcelain Pinup Not all pitbulls are like that and are both dogs okay? It's not the pitbulls complete fault a lot of male dogs that aren't neutered have instincts to fight dogs in their territory.
AnimeMaxwell you're right, it isn't the pitbulls fault, it was the owners for having a fake service dog that wasn't even remotely trained to behave itself around other people or dogs, which was the whole point of that story, was to say stop faking service dogs, because it can put others lives at risk. Make sense?
Love the fact that the dog on the front cover is ACTUALLY a real service dog
The one with hearts is a legit one. They’re allowed to be dressed up if it doesn’t interfere with their job
Drew Lynch would appreciate this very much!
Carrie P agreed 😂
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I clicked this thinking of him
I think so two
Or that girl
I forgot her yt name
She has ptsd
And has lots of service dog issues
Students React service dog paws?
Actually the poodle is highly trained I follow her work on Facebook. they can be dressed anyway they want as long as they are doing their job
I have a Therapy Dog that visits hospitals and nursing homes. I sometimes dress him up, not as much as the poodle, but when he is dressed, it is something special for the people we are visiting and lifts their spirits, and after all, that is his job.
David Edwards therapy animals are classified as emotional support animals and are not given the rights of trained service dogs. They can wear whatever they want when their job is making sick people feel better
I 🤔 that people can dress 👗 their service dogs,when their not out in public,but when they’re out,their working,they should have some kind of I’d on to let the public know it,s a Working 🐩 ,and it,s there to do a job.I think that their should be harder LAWS because it,s not wright and unfair and wrong 😑 for people to poise,for what they are not,people who are found to be fake, I 🤔 should be sevely fined,because needing a 🐕🦺 to help you with everyday life is something that I would,not wish on my worst enemy and I haven’t BESS
🐕 WErnt born to wear cloths,it,s not natural.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yeah right.
That larger growling fake service dog reminds me of one time, several years ago when I was grocery shopping at a major store (Safeway maybe? Walmart?). There were two women there at the same time with two larger dogs in harnesses or vests marked 'service animal'. They were growling some and constantly pulling at their leashes, having to be yanked back often, clearly not trained. When my shopping was done and I called a cab to head home, the dispatcher at first refused me, saying my dogs were a problem. I had to laugh as I explained that I had no dog but I knew exactly who he thought I was. Apparently these two women had exited the store at about the same time and, while I turned left to get out of the walking path while I waited, they had gone to the opposite end of the storefront and called the same major cab company as me. They were still standing there, yanking the dogs back to heel, as my cab passed them by, heading for my apartment.
"Be dressed in an unprofessional mannner". I just pictured a bunch of serious dogs dressed in suits and ties.
yes... their should be a official registration
Also as for privacy, its long gone, no such thing as privacy anymore. So yes for the official registration.
kidkittdy _
*there. Also, you need to add a period.
The dogs would be registered, not the disabled people, you numpty.
instead of carrying an ID that has info about the disability simply have it say "I am disabled and this is my service dog" with a pic of both the person and the dog, the ID does not have to say exactly what the nature of the disability is.
I'm sorry as discriminating as it is, its a necessity. Have it say "Service Dog License Holder" and make it very hard to get forged copies of such licenses.
Ok while I greatly appreciate you shading light on this issue and bringing up several valid and good points, I have to disagree with you on the part about "dressing in an unprofessional manner". According to ADA law, there isn't a "dress code" for service dogs. In fact, they aren't required to be marked as a service animal at all. Working a dog without a vest is what we handlers call "working naked". Which is 100% legal. Personally, I don't work my dog naked, I think it makes it harder for the general public to distinguish between a real working dog and just a pet, but that doesn't mean I haven't exercised my right to work Watson naked. With that said, it is up to the handler's needs and desires as to how the dog is outfitted. Many handlers dye their dogs tails to celebrate specific awareness months (like right now is Lyme, mental health and others, and the color for mental health is green so many people have dyed their dog's tails green). Some people dress their dogs up a bit. I for one have nerdy patches all over Watson's vest, not to mention the hats and such he's worn on occasion. Some people dress their dogs up a bit because a dog in a silly hat is less threatening to the public than just a dog. You'd be surprised how many educational conversations I've had with people who are terrified of dogs just because my dog was wearing a cute sweater or a hat. Now some people have to dress their dogs in sweaters or full body suits like the poodle in the white heart body suit and red vest. The poodle in the video is actually part of a training organization down in Orlando, Florida. because of this, the dogs are often clipped quite short to help with the heat, but that means they also get cold easily. That body suit is like a cute, warm sweater, that Jarvis gets to wear to help keep him comfortable in the colder moths or areas.
While some fakes are easy to spot, its more off of poor behavior than dress. Remember, its 100% legal to not mark your dog at all, its just easier for everyone involved. A vest is a visual reminder that the dog is working and not to interfere with it. How ever you feel the need to dress your dog otherwise, is up to handler's digression. Keeping in mind, the more wacky the outfit, the more people will comment and stop you to ask questions. Heck, I get stopped constantly when my service dog is wearing boots. (in the summer to protect his pads from the hot pavement, occasionally in areas I'm particularly worried about glass, and in the winter to keep him off of the salt) You typically can't tell based off of how the dog is dressed (unless you recognize an illegal scam's vest/patch) but more off of behavior. If you want more information or want to see what I'm talking about with dressing up dogs, hit me up on Instagram instagram.com/watsonsupersleuth/. I'm happy to answer any questions you have about service animals, about fakes, dressing up or otherwise. While most of your video seemed well thought out, it was unfortunately wrong in the dress code area. Thank you for posting this and spreading awareness!
Thank you!
Oh hey! awesome! its always great meeting people on other social media platforms! :)
Ok, like I said in my response to this video, YOU CANT TELL A SD FROM A FAKE BASED OFF OF HOW THEY ARE DRESSED. BY LAW, a service dog doesn't even have to be marked, they can be worked what we handlers call "naked". Some people, who work in high population areas like Disney and Universal, dress their dogs up a bit for several reasons. In the case of that "Fake poodle", those dogs are shaved really close to help with heat of Florida but then they are cold in temperatures under like 75 degrees so they wear those pajama style suits... which happen to be customizable and able to be made cute. And no, sorry, I don't like the idea of a dress code for service animals. Just like being able to dress up a wheel chair or oxygen tank, I should be able to customize and dress up my dog's gear. Should there maybe be a standard for training? And a federally recognized LEGAL registration (almost like a census but one that covers training)? ABSOLUTELY. But a dress code? no. I'm sorry, as a handler, I like the freedom of dressing my dog how I like, I don't like the idea of a dress code.
~Nods~ Oh yes you can tell. Because a real true disabled person does not want to draw attention their service dog which draws attention to the fact they are disabled. I found that 100% of the unprofessional dressed service dogs are not a real service dog, but ESA Pets at best. The federal law really needs to crack down these fakes and have the standard dress code for service dogs. I also found that people are against the SD Dress Code and having a registration and tagging law forservice dogs doing by animal control departments throughout the USA. These people are the people that are faking a disability to pass their pets and ESA Pets off as fake service dogs. They know that won't get away with it no more if a service dog dress code and registration by animal control nationwide is put through the federal law books. Already couple state and several animal control departments found legal way close that loophole up and now requiring legitimate service dogs to tagged. So you are an against something that will protect the legitimate service dog and it the rights of it disabled handler? Sound like you are worried PET OWNER to me and others. You really to leave you pet at home, you in danger people like me and my legitimate service dog with your pet being where it does not belong. As that poodle, it's ESA Pet and it's being dragged intp places where it doses not belong endangering legitimate service dog teams. I personally think when people are caught faking an SD with their pets or ESA Pets)Which are often aggressive or carrying diseases that will make out SD sick or a person sick and with some disabilities of a persona it can be fatal) that animal should be taken away and the owner should never get it back. As for the ones that show aggression or any reaction to legitimate SD should be automatically be put to sleep.
Ps. legitimate disabled SD Handlers do want a Dress Code Law for service dogs and animal control SD Registration and Tagging Law in place. Only the fakers that own pets and ESA Pets are against this because they won't be able to FAKE no more! 100% of real disabled people with SD have been writing multiple times been sending letters to Congress wanting SD Dress Codes, SD Registration and other thing relating to protecting real SDs and putting an end to the fake service dogs! Yes, I write often to Congress and ADA about it! Last time I sent them pictures of my SD after she was brutely attacked by ESA Pet and a copy my ER-Vet bill that was $1,349.76. The ESA Pet owner is still refusing pay and I have a small claims case coming up in court(next month) and I hope I can get her pay for the vet bill that her ESA Pet caused to my SD. This is why we need these laws is to protect our service dog from the fakes and the law protecting us. My SD almost lost an eye because of this ESA Pet!
Kim, I'm very very sorry to hear about your SD, I hope she is doing better? And I hope for your sake that you win that case. No dog should be endangered, especially while doing their job. And in no way am I against some kind of real federal regulation. I myself have written to congress, as well as to my state government about changing laws, local and federal. I'm all for some kind of federally recognized system of registration, especially one that has a standard of training, perhaps requiring the dog to pass the ADI issues PA test? And like rabies, licenses should be reissued every year after passing a "brush up" evaluation? I have actually had several discussions with multiple, legit handlers on multiple social media platforms about this. Some of who are responsible for the state law change in Michigan. I'm trying hard to get my state laws changed right now, and am helping others across the country start working on changing their state laws as well. I think there should be revisions to the laws, and not just ADA but ACAA as well. But all of these changes can't happen if we attack each other instead of working together, just a thought.
As for your comment to me about being a fake handler with a pet that I'm illegally taking around: I would like to point out that one: I never once attacked you on your dog or your disability ( because it doesn't matter, it's not my business). Unfortunately for you, I am a legit team, legal and all, so your personal opinion doesn't really bother me. I don't feel the need to make others feel small to make my self feel more legit as a handler. And two: I don't like the idea of a dress code for several reasons. One: what do we do about the handlers who can't afford this vest of the dress code that you so desperately want? What about the handlers who are unable to put on or maintain this dress code due to their disability? What kind of dress code are you going to lay out that is 100% fake proof? 2) my service dog, in many ways is an extension of myself. If I want to have a solid red, cape vest on him one day but change it to his current harness (which is blue and covered in some pretty awesome patches imo) the next, I have that liberty right now. If I want to take my dog to a taco party wearing his sombrero, I am legally allowed to do so. If I want my dog to have his own ear hat in Disney simply for my enjoyment, I am 100% free to do so. Am I dressing my dog up for attention? No. Does it make him any less of a life saver just because he's dressed "unprofessionally"? No. Do I recognize the attention these things are going to get me while I'm out and about? Absolutely. But honestly, seeing as I work a blue Merle, non traditional breed SD, I get a lot of attention regardless of what he's wearing, so why not have fun with it? 3) the amount of positive, educational, and helpful conversations I've had with people about sds, their rights, what laws need to change, and how we are negatively affected by fakes, just because my dog is "abnormal" and/or "unprofessionally dressed" is incredible. About half of the people I work with, spreading awareness and writing to the various governments, are all people who stopped to talk to me, wait for it, because my dog was wearing a hat, or my dog was wearing a sweater in the winter, or my dog was wearing boots because the asphalt was too hot. "Unprofessional" dress has gotten me way more help and support for the SD community than you'd probably believe. But what do I know right? I'm just an ESA/pet owner who is illegally trying to pass my dog off as a service dog. I'll just have to tell my doctor, all those doctors bills, and my service dog that I'm faking and should be put away for my crime right?
I also find it incredibly interesting that for a self proclaimed animal activist you would see a dog (who probably isn't trained, heavily stressed, and lashing out due to fear thanks to a neglectful owner) "immediately put to sleep" for attacking a service animal. IMO, the dog should be taken away from the owner and given proper training and a good home where they won't do cruel things like put their untrained, terrified dog in that situation again. But I'm not an animal rights activist so what do I know...
I am all for revising laws, I just don't like the idea of a dress code. I think I made my position on that clear. And if you would like to share maybe some of the law revisions you are hoping to see (besides the dress code, I got that already) so that we can all be writing to congress about the same revisions, that would be great. A united front gets things done, and I would really like to get these laws a real thing, not just something we argue about through a computer screen. I'm more than interested in working on these revisions and getting them through congress asap and appreciate any help we can get. It's always interesting and insightful what other handlers think needs to be changed in the laws. I don't suffer from every disability under the sun, nor have I dealt with every possible issue a SD team might face, so it's great to have input from as many people as possible. I look forward to hearing your suggestions. :)
That poodle with the hearts is a real service dog
In our walmart there was a girl with a rat crawling all over her and jumping on and off the cart. I was so mad. Imagine the germs! At the time, the people had to be masked! The employees said they were not allowed to question it. We need this regulated.
They need like a tag that includes legal information with the name of the owner, service pet, and the place of where it was verified
Yesterday a "seeing eye" dog came with a customer into work and the dog could not even walk straight! Was sniffing everything and was way too excited to meet everyone. No way that dog was actually a service dog
Remember that the handlers of a guide dog are visually impaired / blind and may have no previous experience training or even owning a dog when they are given their guide dog prior to the 1-3 weeks training that is usually done residentially in a guide dog centre. When you get a guide dog it is a very difficult and challenging transition for the first couple of months to a year of getting them. Imagine you have 0 sight, have never owned a dog before and are suddenly having to trust a dog you have only just met with your life as well as constantly do continuous training with an 80 pound young, energetic dog who is only just getting used to this big upheaval in their life and is still slightly puppyish (usually GD are matched with their handlers at around 18 months to 2 1/2 years old) - you too would also have days where you just simply cannot control your dog if things go bellyup. I am blind and I am on my second guide dog (he is now 2, I was matched with him when he was a year and a half) whom was trained by the guide dogs for the blind here in Ireland - he is an amazing loving dog, a brilliant worker and I trust him with my life BUT he can also have his off days just like any other guide dog (and person..) I have ever met. If we have had a long day and I am tired and he’s tired and I’m not as “on the ball” as I would usually be he might start to sniff in shops especially If it is near his meal time and if he hasn’t had enough exercise he may pull me out of excitement to work (he loves being out in busy areas) and if someone distracts him by talking to him in a doggy voice or petting him etc he may get hyper when he sees them because he is not a robot he is a dog. Yes he is a highly intelligent, professionally trained and extremely intelligent one but just like us humans and like any other guide dog has his moments and I have mine. Most of the time if the dog does something off it’s probably something their handler has done wrong or a member of the public doing something to put them off. Maybe this dog you saw was a fake, but it also may have just been someone who has having a bad day and lost control of their dog. I myself am someone who admittedly can be slightly skeptical about service dogs especially when they are owner trained because yes some service dogs that are owner trained are fantastic and may even be better trained than some dogs from programs but there are not enough regulations in place to ensure that the dogs that are owner trained are actually training the dog properly and ethically and this to me is where the problem lies as there is no way of knowing the difference between a well trained service dog and someone who may well have a disability that warrants the need for a service dog but hasn’t sufficiently been able to train their dog. There is more of a demand / need for service dogs than their are available so of course owner training is often unavoidable and often times more successful but their does need to be some sort of standard the dog has to be trained to in order to gain public access rights in order to keep everyone and their dogs safe.
@@claraluvsmusic well said
I've seen people with legitimate service dog dye their dogs fur exotic colors. And I always think "Your dog is supposed to be pretty much ignored, and you're drawing attention to them. And making people think they are fake."
This is messed up! LEAVE YOUR NON SERVICE DOG AT HOME!!! IT'S NOT THAT HARD!
The black chick pretending to be blind, made my blood boil.
That woman pissed me of pretending to be blind. I'm black and my mother was blind for several years and I had to help and care for her during my childhood. Also she has a fear of dogs so she didn't want a guide dog. Anytime I see somebody faking blindness I get angry.
Sharon Jackson sure there are bigger problems in the world than people faking disabilities. But it's still a problem. It's devalues the people who actually need service dogs and ESA because people want to cheat. These things can affect someone's life on a daily basis
Yeah, and why does she has her dog in the cart if she's blind?
"Oh i'm blind, he's a guide dog" how can he guide you from inside the cart?
Agreed
I have a service dog and when i see a fake service dog it makes me mad
anime love agreed!!!!
anime love I don't have a SD put when I see other women/men with a non-service dog it makes me mad and sick
anime love How do you even know if it's fake. There are therapy dogs in the place I work at that is a bit rowdy but they ARE a service dog.
Jeter Sison Service dogs r trained not to be rowdy they r trained to be good in public u tell from fake and real anyone can get paper work
Jeter Sison They shouldn't be rowdy at all. It makes the person handling the service dog struggle more then without it.
I’m so grateful for this video. I have a service dog and I’m in high school and I have many chronic illnesses (invisible disabilities) and I get severely harassed at school for having a service dog. The kids say he’s fake because he doesn’t have a “certification” and because I’m not blind or in a wheelchair. They kick him in the halls, threaten to feed him chocolate and pills, threaten to bring their aggressive dogs and say it’s a “therapy dog” to literally KILL HIM. It’s so ridiculous. This video will help me prove that I’m not lying. And show the people that try to say they’re gonna bring their “service dog” to school that they are breaking the law.
Meeka the husky is one of the fake service dogs! Her owners don’t care if Meeka distracts a service dogs and causes the dog to miss a medical alert
There is NO law regulating how service animals can be dressed. They can legally be dressed however the handler wants. They are not legally required to wear a vest, either. The photo you included of the poodle is a VERY legitimate service animal in training through an organization in Orlando. Their appearance does not dispute their validity.
Corinne Cook in alot of countrys service dogs must wear vest on duty and not to be dressed up
Brittany Clark It is not legally required to wear a vest. I don't have mine wear one in the summer. It's too hot for that.
Please educate yourselves before you speak on topics you know nothing about. Under federal law, a service dog is NOT required to wear anything out in public. Some handlers, like myself, prefer it, as it's simply easier on us. And it can signal duty and off duty stuff, but again, there is no requirement. There is no requirement for anything the dog dresses in either. People get to wear whatever the hell they want and I don't see them saving lives.
Of course, this is just what
I know as a US citizen. It does vary by country, but that poodle is from the US, so these laws apply to them.
@@haydenelias940 in public a service dog don't need a vest but when entering a store or private property it need to or u can be ask to leave.
I think getting verifiable I.D tags for the dogs would be a step in the right direction.
I'm starting to think you have an untrained "service" animal. You're incredibly defensive over this.
How?
Main Street Boxer you are correct, a service dog is not required to have any type of, identification, verification, ID, licensing, or paperwork. Which is why businesses are not allowed to ask for any of those listed things.
You cant just walk up to people and demand it, so enforcement is the key here, not the certification
1 million% should be registry for all types of service animals
It should be a Felony to do this.
I can see how bad a problem this is. There are people who really do need a service animal to cope with a disability or some other enfeeblement, but there are still more people who abuse it. My sister bought a service dog vest for her stupid dog, but the damn thing has no training, barks at everything, doesn't listen, and is a general nuisance. I have a therapy animal for a past trauma, but I don't take him out in public unless I'm taking him to the vet or something and even then I try to avoid stores or restaurants. I don't delude myself into thinking he helps me when I'm out and about because that's not what he's for. I wish dumb and spoiled people wouldn't take advantage of the system that so many people actually need.
That's too bad, Sable--the law says that, if you are welcome in an establishment, then your service dog is as well. Your sister (and others who do what she did) makes things difficult for you.
SableWolfAngel i mean..for some people the emotional companion does help them in public situations. its not deluded just cos you dont do it yourself.
your sister is disgrace do not respect a person who really need service dog
SableWolfAngel I'm personally trying to get my cat registered as a emotional support animal due to being molested for three to four years when I was a kid and being verbally and emotionally abused most of my life. Now that I'm in college I'm able to get help as I wasn't even allowed to go to the school counselor to help me, let alone a therapist or something. I would've needed an emotional support animal that would go out in public with me years ago because I was emotionally unstable and anything could set me off (I know this now), but now everything is a lot better than it once was and I've made a lot of progress with help from friends. Now I don't really need the ability to take an animal everywhere, more so when I'm traveling out of state by plane or moving houses since that is something I'd have trouble handling emotionally. If you have any advice for me for when I save up enough to get her registered, is there anything I should know? My counselor is helping me with questions but right now we're focusing on what was going on when I was younger with what she reckons was a dissociative symptom that I had no idea was there (like I said, I was never allowed to get help when I desperately needed it so I never knew, rather thought it was a symptom of something like schizophrenia or some other personality disorder) and I would like to get advice from those who have gone through the process already.
I have a Co worker who lost his arm in a motorcycle accident, suffered from seizures for many years after said accident, became addicted to prescription opiods, and attempted suicide, this on top of PTSD from military service. He has a VERY well trained service dog who just happens to be spoiled rotten and loved immensely in our office. Not only is she a retrieval dog who will fetch things for him, do things like shut off lights and pull covers up when back pain has him bedridden, but she is also trained to find and alert someone if he were to have a seizure or become incapacitated. But, she is also permitted to visit with the rest of the office when he is seated at his desk. We work in an airline operations control center and it is a very high stress job. You'll be Tearing your hair out one minute, and the next minute, a doe eyed pit bull has her head in your lap to calm you down...she senses anxiety and goes to help. One of our grumpy old men in the office actually complained about her and she was banned until he produced documents stating that he required her. And the rest of the office came forward and said we needed her too. It's fake crap like this that has to stop. Many disabilities are invisible. No one should have to explain themselves. If handicap parking placards became available for sale online, the government would have a field day. Why aren't we doing more to protect the people who legitimately need a service animal?
I had my medical alert dog get attacked by a fake service dog while we were at the store. she now has scars on her muzzle and is afraid of smaller dogs and will stop walking if she sees a smaller dog in any public place and will wait until said dog is far enough away that she feels safe. And I was so proud of her because the whole time the other dog was attacking her she just sat there and kept her head tucked as far into her chest as possible, a taught action that protects her neck and makes it easier to catch and get the other animal away from her.
Why would a national registry be controversial?
Oh yeah, 'Murica.
Sigh.
PSA: If you see a service dog in public, DON'T PET IT. That is not only extremely rude but it's also endangering the person in need of the service dog by distracting it. In some places it's a federal crime.
David Chapman what did your comment add to the conversation about Krista Miller's useful and brilliant PSA?
yeah there was a story about a girl who had epilepsy or some seizure related disorder and she couldn’t walk and was in a wheelchair and a person pet her service dog and then she had a seizure and the dog was prevented from doing its job.
i have epilepsy, but i cannot afford training for a service dog. I do have a little doggie Pebbles, and she is registered as my companion animal because I have severe depression and PTSD (she's a rescue animal and she's 7, we have had her for a year now and she really helps) though, she can't really sense my seizures , she does have the natural dog sense so maybe 1/10 events get caught before hand.
I have up to 12 seizures a day (full movement) and countless absence seizures, and i do think a service dog would help .
now my doggo pebbles, she's small, little chihuahua, i hold her all the time and yes i bring her into walmart or biglots in my arms (she's extremely quiet and basically just sleeps the whole time) but NEVER HAVE I EVER PRETENDED THAT SHE WAS A SERVICE DOG, IF I AM ASKED FOR HER TO EXIT, I EXIT. IF A CONPANY ONLY ALLOWS SERVICE DOGS, I DO NOT BRING HER IN BECAUSE SHE IS SIMPLY NOT A SERVICE DOG.
i probably won't ever get a service dog, it's too expensive. but yeah that was my 2¢
Kylee Grillett That is understandable. Well behaved dogs like your Pebbles should be available to be registered under support dogs because you have disabilities and disorders that she helps with. ESAs are important to mentally disabled or divergent people, just like physical service dogs are important to physically disabled people, visible or non.
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12 seizures a day?? Ahahaha poor u
I'm so sorry. Just saying - be careful with WalMart! Lots of fakes there that could annoy your dog and make your dog seem like a fake too. They have health codes and don't allow non-service dogs there.
Nina B
People are different. You first said something about service dogs not being medical equipment and they are. You show ignorance.
I love how it cuts the guy at the end off
The services dog with the hearts is a real services dog
I bought one of those vests on eBay but I always have my doctors note and my medication with my names on it as proof.
I once saw a Germans shepherd in a vest that wanted to attack my dog... I was like "well that's a fake" my dog just gave him a weird look lol
My dog is very well behavior in large crowds and in other public places.
Main Street Boxer I only bought the vest because everywhere I go I get stopped and ask for prove. The vest just makes it easier for me. I always carry my letter and meds with me thou. Fakers makes it harder for us.
What is your disability?
Same here, I carry my paper work around in his little vest pocket just in case.
Evolve you know you can’t ask that right. You can ask what the dog is trained for but it’s illegal to ask what the disability is unless the person gives consent to.
Esther Syvanen yes, and you’re welcome. I think there needs to be more awareness and education on what’s ok to do with service dogs and what’s not. I still have people’s children come and pet Sophie when she’s working and one time a child came up and started touching her when she was trying to do DPT! I think it’s because the parents don’t realize you’re not allowed to pet service animals, even though she clearly has a “Do Not Pet” patch smh
I think people should just be educated on what a legitimate service dog acts like. If it barks for silly reasons, fake. If it does not follow simple commands, fake. If it is aggresive, fake. It's pretty simple to spot fake ones when you know what you're looking for.
They could also make laws harsher on criminals - problem for a lot of lawbreaking solved, right there.
Sadly that's not true. To counter crime you need to catch it, punishment means nothing without it. In fact, the US has some of the toughest punishments for crime in the Western World as it stands.
Ugh, this makes me so angry. As a service dog trainer ( for autistic kids who need their service dogs to tell them when their about to have a seizure, help them with everyday tasks, etc ) I can’t be believe people put actual people who need service dogs in danger. People are so ignorant.
I don't completely agree with the "unprofessional dress" determining if a dog is fake. Some service dogs, such as autism and epilepsy dogs, who work with children or are training to work with children will be dressed in a fun way. Some poodle owners have highly trained dogs but choose to dye tufts of their fur. This doesn't mean the dog is a fake, it is just personal preference. Determining whether or not a dog is fake is completely based on behavior of the animal. If it cannot pay attention, is not prepared to complete a task (confined to a shopping cart), is barking its head off or growling at another dog, it's most likely a fake.
The ADA legally allows you to ask handlers two questions about their dog. 1) is it a service dog and 2) what tasks does it do to mitigate your disability. Fakes usually can't answer the second question, and hopefully wont have the heart to lie about the first.
Lol I think it's funny she said the dog was dressed in unprofessional manner😂😂 had no idea dogs needrd dress codes too lol
What? Have we run out of teenage girls to shame?
That actually reminded me of the time someone tried to shame an elephant over its udder (which is on the animals chest so it looks like breasts)
ValerieRaya Lol that's the most foolish thing I've heard...today lol I'm sure I'll hear something ridiculous tomorrow 😂
Well when the dog is supposed to be providing service you want to distract it as little as possible. You COOOULD dress your dog like Princess Peach, but that isn't going to be harmful once you have a seizure or PTSD attack.
Nionivek umm that dog who was said to look unprofessional was actually a real service dog from trained and maintained. She’s epileptic and she has the ability to dress the dog however she wants. She MADE the outfit because she thought it was cute and who cares it’s her dog and it helps her. The way it looks doesn’t effect its ability to work. She changes his look for her personal liking not for the community to judge.
Except you know, that the dyes to properly color your dog aren't sold in the USA. I mean I guess a Service Dog Owner doesn't have to treat their service dog correctly.
the poodle that was "dressed in an unprofessional manner" is a legitimate service dog.
Anyone notice how they were mostly yappy ankle biters? It's bad enough that these owners don’t have their dogs trained or have any boundaries for their behaviour..but now we see these disgusting owners have decided to take it up a notch by harassing the general public even more, by faking them as service dogs so that they can annoy people even more!
I get most in the USA are against the idea but here in Canada dogs have to be qualified and are issued papers once qualified. The handler has to have those papers on hand at all times. Yes it can be annoying but it does help reduce the "fakes".
Lynx Joker a lot of people in the US (including me) would agree with you
Believe it or not that’s how it is in the us as well but alot of people are ignorant to this information. You can not ask a person why they have a service dog, but to legally get a service dog you need a prescription from a doctor. Legally anyone could ask to see that prescription as proof of a real service dog but they get that confused with asking why they need a service dog and think that they are not allowed to ask about either which isnt true. You can legally ask to see a prescription as proof and then refuse entry if they dont have said paper.
ID cards would definitely help with this situation.
There needs to be a Registry for them. An actual Federal one Anyone can creat Fake paperwork, Vests and ID cards. That’s why they are able to get away with it. Service Animals need a Vest identifying them as a Legal Service Animal and a registration tag with an ID number to link them to the Registry with the Current Owner
The current ADA requirements were to protect the handler's privacy. Unfortunately, due to all the snowflakes with fake dogs we are most likely going to have to have a registry for true service dogs. It can cost thousands of dollars and man hours to train a service dog...and all that training can go out the window with one fake dog attacking a service dog. If they can't control their dog, what makes them think that they can pass them off as a service animal?
As a dog owner, this makes me so mad. I love my dog and yes I would love bring her everywhere with me, but she isn't trained to do that and would be an annoyance to everyone including myself. My dog doesn't find it exciting to go shopping with me, why would I bring her along, when I can after and before run through the forest with her?!
Those aren't' just harming legitimate service dogs and owner who need them, they harm their own dogs and and all dog owners with their selfishness. CALL THEM OUT!
You can Dress (and dye) your SD as you want.
I do it! *ITS NOT ILLEGAL*
It is not illegal, but you are depriving your dog of his dignity. Animals don't have dyed hair and don't wear clothes -- unless they serve a specific purpose, like a harness. You are also hurting the environment. The textile industry is already overproducing for human clothes. Do we really need to grow even more water-guzzling cotton and make even more clothes from non-biodegradable plastic so dogs can wear clothes, too? And don't get me started on the hair dye, it is toxic, hurts the environment and the person or animal it is used on. Hair dye has been linked to cancer and loss of fertility.
Yes, it is a huge problem. People are just putting a vest on their pet and calling them a Service Dog. Federal Law (ADA) law covers this. Really inconsiderate behavior. Motels, restaurants, grocery stores, should (and are allowed to) ask for the ADA certificate for the animal.