Rupert, man. This one did something for me. Your ability to explain something so abstract to the point that I feel like it was actually shown to me is crazy. Thank you for this one. This one was important for me.
This was superb Rupert. We're in collaboration with the universe...exquisite. Your capacity to express this so clearly is so very valuable and a gift to humanity! Thank you!!!
Even better than colab my friend. YOU believe in GoD then believe in ME as well. The world cannot receive the infinite because it neither sees Infinity nor know the infinite. But YOU do know the infinite, it abides with YOU and will be in 🫴🏽 ❤️🔥 ♾️I AM❤️🔥 🫳🏽 ❤️🔥 YOU will come to YOU The world does not I AM but YOU will see Me Because I AM lives, YOU also will live. On that day YOU will know that I AM FLOWING, and YOU are in Me, and I am in YOU
When we emotionally identify and attach to the finite we suffer, if we don’t, then it’s possible to live half a foot in the finite and half a foot in the infinite, peace and happiness in the infinite and cool experiences in the finite
This beautiful, clear explanation of reality is also supported by the growing body of evidence discovered through quantum physics; specifically, how whatever we observe is activated by the observation itself!
The existence/life is one and flowing by itself. Within the flow there is an amazing phenomenon which is the illusion of separation and controlling. What is Actually happening that this marvellous flow has an invisible floating energy (thoughts) which pops up to steer the forms of energy (body). So what ever the separate-self thinks is doing, Actually the flow is doing/flowing. Anyway, You are the flow, you have always been that, but the illusion was veiling such beautiful truth. The truth/flow unveils itself by itself. Reading this is a sign of unveiling. Eventually, When the flow is being aware of itself. You (true-Self) can miraculously manoeuvre the flow (yourSelf) by manipulating the energy, via being. Be, and it is. The funny thing is even that is the flow’s doing/plan. Note: The sense of the separate-self and free will ,, will still be there, but after the previous Realisation, the true freedom & happiness will merge with it.
In absence of thinking sensing and perceiving the only “not a thing” that remain is the consciousness of our existence. And as in absence of thinking and perceiving there is neither time nor space, That “knowledge I am” is our infinite naked nature. That is Sat Chit Ananda. Thank you Rupert I hope I understood your teachings properly.
True that explains, why in Genesis of the Bible, in the beginning there was darkness, and as God moved over the formless, there was no time and space until he decided it to be.
Wowed. Thinking and perceiving refract the one formless reality making it appear as many things, thinking then substantiates the apparent existence of these things by giving each of them a name ,weaving the illusion that there are many things . Wow Rupert Spira you are such a genius you expain things so clearly . Thank you.
I saw the recognition of one another as if in a mirror of joined Knowing Rupert! How moving. To feel on the human level the peak of what it is to give and receive and the immediate shine within upon your face.
Reality is both the dreamer and its dream. The one universal mind and its imagination. The dreamer experiencing its dream. The one mind experiencing its imagination. Reality is not necessarily experiencing “itself” and appearing to itself as name and form, it is experiencing its projection/imagination/dream. Yes, how it perceives its dream is determined by the dream headset it is donning.
@@wattaura7621 the one dreamer experiences its dream from all unique perspectives within the dream. The dream is evolving, its evolution is informed by the actions of the unique POVs/dream characters, whether they have freewill or not
@@cabsrhere8897 Did that address my question? Who is controlling the ship? Infinite consciousness or it's modulations? I think we are in agreement, there is no separation, so it don't matter.
@@mikelisteral7863 you've yet to apprehend what I've quoted. keep trying. what is change? change does not exist without a reference for time. you clearly do not understand what you are referencing.
Thank you, Rupert, for this poem! "-And I have felt A presence that disturbs me with the joy Of elevated thoughts; a sense sublime Of something far more deeply interfused, Whose dwelling is the light of setting suns, And the round ocean and the living air, And the blue sky, and in the mind of man: A motion and a spirit, that impels All thinking things, all objects of all thought, And rolls through all things. Therefore am I still A lover of the meadows and the woods And mountains; and of all that we behold From this green earth; of all the mighty world Of eye, and ear,-both what they half create, And what perceive; well pleased to recognise In nature and the language of the sense The anchor of my purest thoughts, the nurse, The guide, the guardian of my heart, and soul Of all my moral being."--Wordsworth
Existence is me and not me(you), experiencing each other. Nothing exists without something else(the other) to experience it. Every person I meet, is not me, it’s you(the other). Every tree in the forest is not me, it’s you(the other). ONE does not exist by itself, it takes two. Everything exists relative to something else. Christianity recognizes this duality as the father and son. The Holy Spirit is the father and son being aware of each other....experiencing each other (me and you)
@@LifesInsight my analogy is simplistic, there is infinite others, but at minimum it takes two. The you in this case is anything and everything that is not me. Every person I meet, is not me it’s you(the other). I once viewed a video of an NDE person tell her story and God asked her “what would you do if I told you it is just you and me” it sounded like god was answering in the form of a question. Jeopardy style. So what did God mean by “you and me”?
What Rupert describes here as thinking and perception aligns with the Buddha’s description of nama (name) and rupa (image), one of many ways he breaks down the human mind
Since we can't actually experience infinity (all at once), but parts of reality at time, from our point of view, the universe is infinite outwards. But looking inside ourselves, we can spend our whole lives reflecting inward and still not explore all our inner world. So, to our scale, there is infinity both outside and inside. Even if we or the universe is finite, we cannot experience all of it in a single lifetime, so in practice we perceive something vast enough as infinite.
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." Rupert confirms these two Bible verses, so simply and clearly that no thing remains misunderstood!
The experience is a beautiful one from this perspective of rose colored glasses that 'eye' own. 😎 ....did I mention there is a co-op, meaning unlimited 'shares' are available. 😊 Apparently Rupert is aware of 'this'. 💙
I had a similar realization that if consciousness exists independent of mind, then mind serves to refract consciousness into individual senses. It's analogous to how a prism refracts pure white light into individual colors or wavelengths. That's a big "if" though...
I love the explanation of the marriage of or mixing of the screen and the mind creating what seems to be “the world”. The substance of it is only consciousness and can ever be only that. Thank you for sharing this. I am in love.
"That's just how the One Reality appears when it's looked at through the lens of a human mind." Heh... I have a VR headset so really appreciate Mr. Rupert's new analogy! lol! Terrific! "There are no dimensions in The Infinite."
Considering P. Rose found out that consciousness is in fact the results of the many quantum computations (thinking), if we take the perceiving, consciousness wouldn’t happen .
Another way of understanding is.... through the experiment of white screen and polarizing sheet. If you remove the polarizing sheet of your computer screen, there's just white light. The truth is the white light, with all it's might to generate the world, but only perceivable through the polarizing sheet, as multiplicity of objects. But do not fool yourself, even though you gain the understanding of one conciousness. Whenever you treat yourself as a separate entity, you have to play within the rules of separate entity, that is Maya and the law of this perceived reality.
What is a Finite mind Vs Infinite Mind. How do we think in both scenerios? Other than no Thought, when does Infinite Thought manifest in our appearance? Is there a voice or a knowing?
to me it is exactly the other way around i am the most finite part of the universe because i am just in this smallest moment of time wich is now and just at the smallest space wich is here anybody that thinks they are more then that are lying.
When the VR headset (of perceiving or seeing) is taken off, the Virtual Reality vanquishes, what is left as it is - is Unconditioned Object-less Awareness ie the Infinite. The Ascended Ones say (to paraphrase), _"All the 10,000 things go back to the One Reality, which is the Totality of the 10,000 things in essence."_ 😊🙏🙇♂️🌷
«What we experience of the world is this beautiful interaction between the infinite reality and the finite mind that perceives it and the interaction of these two creates this amazing world, it's mindblowing!» And when the finite mind is gone, after death, then there will not be any more interaction between the two, does it mean that it won't be amazing anymore?
@@pennywise5095 The sensory experience is centered on the body that experiences it, but that is not "my" center....that is not "me". "I" am not the body.
@@NondualityChannel ok be without your body for a minute or 20 after that tell me that you are not the body ow wait you can not anymore because well you are dead and gone by then all this talk means nothing with anything to back it up sorry for sounding frustrated but after 40 years of fhinking reading meditating i still have found no truth its just not there and people claiming things that are obvious lies just make me more frustrated
@penny, one can not stop being what they never were. Soon this body will die. But ” I “ won’t die because I was never this body. The impermanence of everything, especially life. Peace
I get the impression the lady he’s talking to isn’t convinced at all and is almost mocking his interpretation. Rupert probably sensed this which is why he talks over her
Actually she was right, and Rupert's superimposed answer, a thought/perception itself concerning where it wasn't, then labeled as consciousness, is wrong. "Consciousness originates dependent upon an object of consciousness, therefore it is non-existent. Without cognition and an object of consciousness, there is consequently no consciousness at all." - Nagarjuna, Seventy Verses on Emptiness
Idk if I didn't understand well enough or what he is saying is absurd, how can he talk as if he is so sure when he clearly says that it is impossible for us to know our true self from a human experience?
Wouldn't say you can't realize the eternity. It's not about "time", there will always be a current moment, an experience playing out. That's eternity. It's always the current moment, even if the planet explodes and the planet Earth is no more, there is still an infinite amount of current moments, the show still goes on. Some experience is playing out despite being utterly pointless lol.
NOW there is a subtle difference HERE, the EVER-PRESENT can be displaced by the finite (mind). Thinking in terms of Infinite being displaced by anything just made no sense. 💙
"Ever-present" refers to something that is always present or continually exists, regardless of changing circumstances. Some examples of things that could be considered ever-present include: 1. Fundamental laws of physics: The laws of physics, like the conservation of energy and the laws of motion, are considered ever-present principles that govern the behavior of the universe. 2. Constants of nature: Universal constants, such as the speed of light or the gravitational constant, are always the same and are considered ever-present features of the cosmos. 3. Natural phenomena: Certain natural phenomena, like the cycle of day and night, the changing of seasons, and the flow of water in rivers, are ever-present in the sense that they occur consistently over time. 4. Abstract concepts: Some abstract concepts, like the human desire for knowledge or the pursuit of happiness, can be considered ever-present in the realm of human experience. 5. Basic human needs: Fundamental needs like food, water, shelter, and social interaction are ever-present requirements for human survival and well-being. These are just a few examples, and what is considered ever-present can vary depending on the context and perspective.
@@GRAND_POOPAHoops, I meant to type Infinite being displaced by some finite object made no sense, is the way Rupert would always state it. (I edited my original comment)
I just think ever-present is a more meditative way of looking at this. The finite mind wonders out of the present, pinching itself off from the totality, creating the illusion of separation.
So why are there physical laws? When I dream, there are no physical laws from moment to moment within the dream. They are crazy dreams. Yet our perceptions seem very ordered and there's agreement between humans and even animals and of course machines, etc.
Why would God fragment itself into a being who has to suffer? God’s nature must include suffering. Trying to escape suffering is therefore ridiculous. But, thinking there is only suffering is also delusional. Reality is the same whether we acknowledge God or not. What does meeting God do for us? Does it make reality beautiful and/or bearable? Why are we cut off and born not knowing ourselves? Why would God do that to itself?
It is a good question and one that ive thought about a lot. However, when you look at the timeline of the human being as compared to the planet/universe generally, you see that the jump from the unconscious animal to the human and then to our impending awakening, it is a very short amount of time. We’re talking about thousands of years versus billions, for a MASSIVE evolutionary jump. We just happen to be smack dab in the middle of the most acute phase of this quantum leap. Kind of a bummer, but also fascinating lol..
Thank you for your thoughtful responses. Personally, I tend to fall towards the probability of there existing a being of perfect Love-inclusive of Ourselves all along. Hell is an open question for me. I'm more inclined to think of re-learning, re-incarnating or something like that. Some people who have had near death experiences say that they were led through events that happened during their lifetimes. The experiencer seemed to gain omniscient perspective of that event and felt how others felt in the situation. So, if he/she inflicted pain, they had to feel the pain they inflicted. If they made a small (or great) kindness that resulted in another's joy, that was felt too. Seems fair. But, I recognize that it is one person’s story, which obviously, I myself did not experience first hand. I don't have to accept it as "gospel." Much of spirituality is an open question for me. I'm ok with that because I think it pushes back against fanaticism and cult following and narrowness of perspective (which unfortunately seems inherent during our little lives much of the time). From the hundreds of accounts of NDEs I've listened to, many containing details independently verified by O.R. docs, nurses and family members, I'm fairly convinced there is a non-religious Force of Perfect Love at the end. Still, I don't make myself believe this 100% without seeing it with my own eyes. But I am willing to include it in my thinking of what is probable and "believe" the testimony of the people who had the experiences. Generally, I don't think religions, or any in-group structures serve people all that well. But, we do naturally want to hear what people have to tell us from their experiences and I think most people try to tell the truth most of the time. In recent years I've gained a lot of wisdom from many teachers both online, in person and in written from. And from quiet reflection and sitting. I think unconditional/unconditioned love is the argument for God or Self or Truth. It's just been so obliterated in life by what our society, our loved ones, our friends and and ourselves have done that it's almost unrecognizable. We no longer trust it. Love is corrupted and polluted, but maybe not at the level of perfected Awareness. I don't know yet. Thanks again for your honesty and bravery in telling the truth. (For some reason, much of this comment is showing up with "strike-through." Not sure why. Possibly, my comment isn’t shown in its entirety.)
The infinite perceives itself as finite, as man, as woman, as life, so to be able to love and be loved in return. 💛🧡❤ The real meaning behind genesis two eighteen.
~ The Infinite Deep calls unto deep. Have you heard the still small voice? Can nothing become....anything? Ah Mind will trick itself into oblivion. Nothing. Are you bewitched by teachers of this age? Helpless. Hopeless. Confused. Lost. Come back to the Source. Your Father. Your God. The Father of awareness. The Father of spirit. Home.
In genesis, it says that god created light in the darkness. Does this mean he created the light, but not the darkness? A being floating in the darkness and it becomes conscious? And by some way, if he said light there be light, was the spoken word not the first thing created, then light? And if in the case of this video, it would be as if this infinite dot has put on vr goggles made of itself and that is the multiverse? Like in A Mort Well Lived in Rick and Morty where Morty puts on the vr helmet then becomes a whole planet of morties? And rick has to go in and convince a planet of divided unkowing morties to trust him and get out.. were 'those guys' really on to something?
Reality as a dimensionless point of pure consciousness pfff what is the reason you make life and living so complicated everybody seems confused. It’s in the way they are talking about themselves their true selves and asking I am seeing me as infinite…or…what??
"Infinite"? By the mind's rule? Rupert is amazingly intelligent and loving and when he dwelves into these newageish blahblahblahs, he loses himself into the very blahblahblah that keeps playing. On this one, he joined the band. Being "infinite" is just another toy store. Do you really wanna go there? Who cares if you are infinite or not. Are you happy? Because you can be "infinite" and infinitely unhappy.
You dont have a choice whether to “go there” or not, its already the case. Happiness and sadness come and go, if you want to remain in this childlike state of ignorance, have at it, you’ll have plenty of company. But eventually, there comes a time when we have to grow up. The illusion of being finite is the cause of nearly every misery we see in the world today.
The corn. There is no such thing in time or eternity as infinite nothingness! The only way you can justify that form of thinking, as if to say, God, doesn’t exist. My primary field is the interpretation of symbols and how they give reference to the structure of God.
Well, the white snow isn't there, as perceived reality isn't real, it's phony. The story we find "ourselves" in, has what is apparently white snow. Whatever the hell that is lol.
I think HELL is important because those who reject being submitted to JESUS can not handle the power we will have in the new existence we will have as the new creatures because the creatures we are now are no where as powerful as the ones JESUS has made us as HIS followers It is hidden what we are right now I can totally understand what you are talking about It looks like we are not real, their is no time and space, we are all one consciousness, but we are actually in JESUS and JESUS is considering us as individuals JESUS has made us to become much more than what we are now if we put us under HIS authority and at some point we will be much more powerful and those who reject JESUS should not have that power and will always be evil and to protect the ones who will be subject to JESUS out of love for those who willing put themselves under HIS authority must get the evil ones away from them
The corn. Rupert Spira, You’re missing a very important factor, The Conscious Spirit, and they are one and the same, you can’t have the one without the other. It is consciousness that gives the spirit awareness, and it’s the spirit that gives consciousness purpose, you must start from there. consciousness cannot exist on its own, and the spirit cannot exist on its own. It is what we experience as reality, regardless if it’s physical or spiritual. case in point, on the one side, you experience a form of physical reality that is spiritual, but on the other side, we experience the physical form of reality and the spiritual form of reality in a different way, because we are in the completed totality of the structure of God, versus the one side, only experiencing the first within the end of the Omega, and it’s reflection. On the other side, we experience the last within the beginning of the Alpha, and the first within the end of the Omega, simultaneously. I understand your statement out of your own personal extensive experience. and the reason you would say there is no God.
There is no Conscious without billions of neurons and synapses, IMHO. That concept of Universal Consciousness only exists in those believing in woo-woo and spirituality. One needs incredible evidence to make incredible claims. Consciousness is an emergent property of a complex brain . 😊.
But science also says the world is inside the mind. The world for example is shape and color. But how do brains look like when nobody is looking, when there is no mind to produce shape and color? The science model seems to be flawed.
Rupert, man. This one did something for me. Your ability to explain something so abstract to the point that I feel like it was actually shown to me is crazy. Thank you for this one. This one was important for me.
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His ability to speak of these topics in such a clear and contemporary manner is astounding to me!
yes, Rupert's explanations are going beyond the mind understanding. ❤
This was superb Rupert. We're in collaboration with the universe...exquisite. Your capacity to express this so clearly is so very valuable and a gift to humanity! Thank you!!!
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Even better than colab my friend. YOU believe in GoD then believe in ME as well. The world cannot receive the infinite because it neither sees Infinity nor know the infinite. But YOU do know the infinite, it abides with YOU and will be in
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♾️I AM❤️🔥
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YOU will come to YOU The world does not I AM but YOU will see Me
Because I AM lives, YOU also will live. On that day YOU will know that I AM FLOWING, and YOU are in Me, and I am in YOU
We are the infinite & when we identify with the finite, we suffer.
But why should we suffer in that scenario? Let alone end up suffering at all?
And when you identify with the infinite you will have the same exact experience because as he says himself the illusion does not change
we are the finite & when we identify with the infinite, we suffer
When we emotionally identify and attach to the finite we suffer, if we don’t, then it’s possible to live half a foot in the finite and half a foot in the infinite, peace and happiness in the infinite and cool experiences in the finite
@by, there are no infinite outside of mathematics. Even the universe has finite existence. Peace
Beautiful! How lucky are we to have Rupert! So full of gratitude right now...
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rupert wearing those funky glasses is a meme for the ages
It's being 'I-wear' 😊
This beautiful, clear explanation of reality is also supported by the growing body of evidence discovered through quantum physics; specifically, how whatever we observe is activated by the observation itself!
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The existence/life is one and flowing by itself.
Within the flow there is an amazing phenomenon which is the illusion of separation and controlling.
What is Actually happening that this marvellous flow has an invisible floating energy (thoughts) which pops up to steer the forms of energy (body).
So what ever the separate-self thinks is doing,
Actually the flow is doing/flowing.
Anyway, You are the flow, you have always been that, but the illusion was veiling such beautiful truth.
The truth/flow unveils itself by itself.
Reading this is a sign of unveiling.
Eventually, When the flow is being aware of itself.
You (true-Self) can miraculously manoeuvre the flow (yourSelf) by manipulating the energy, via being.
Be, and it is.
The funny thing is even that is the flow’s doing/plan.
Note: The sense of the separate-self and free will ,, will still be there, but after the previous Realisation, the true freedom & happiness will merge with it.
Beautiful words, unfolding of the true self is by design😮
@@joelmukabire6907 yes , lucky who is awakened,,,,
Love you Rupert , I feel fortunate to come across you ❤🙏🙏🙏
In absence of thinking sensing and perceiving the only “not a thing” that remain is the consciousness of our existence. And as in absence of thinking and perceiving there is neither time nor space, That “knowledge I am” is our infinite naked nature. That is Sat Chit Ananda. Thank you Rupert I hope I understood your teachings properly.
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True that explains, why in Genesis of the Bible, in the beginning there was darkness, and as God moved over the formless, there was no time and space until he decided it to be.
Wowed. Thinking and perceiving refract the one formless reality making it appear as many things, thinking then substantiates the apparent existence of these things by giving each of them a name ,weaving the illusion that there are many things . Wow Rupert Spira you are such a genius you expain things so clearly . Thank you.
...so clearly, that one wonders why such a simple thing could not be understood, prior to the explanation!
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Just explained it to my dad, I didn't actually know that I had absolutely understood it, trueself unfolding by design😅
Thank you Rupert you are the best 💯
I saw the recognition of one another as if in a mirror of joined Knowing Rupert! How moving. To feel on the human level the peak of what it is to give and receive and the immediate shine within upon your face.
You are the modren audhi shankaracharya.........thanks for everything
Dude seems like an actual arhat in real life. That's rare, to say the least!
Mind-blowing. My brain can't handle it.😢
Simply this...
... hmmmm, CONSCIOUSNESS
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can-not DO-ANYTHING without IT-!!! ...
Exactly..
Incredible insight
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After those funky glasses, next week...John Smith hands Rupert a King Lear outfit to demonstrate his teachings 😅
I bet he could go as far Mary or Jane and most would still worship the GURU. "Hello everyone" 😂
Great explanation! Thanks for sharing Rupert!
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You ,a devotee of Ramani Maharishi + Nisargadatta Maharaj ,are a spiritual jenius .Namaskar to you from me from india .
I guess no one could explain it like this
Rupert we love you! You looked good in the glasses haha
Reality is both the dreamer and its dream. The one universal mind and its imagination. The dreamer experiencing its dream. The one mind experiencing its imagination. Reality is not necessarily experiencing “itself” and appearing to itself as name and form, it is experiencing its projection/imagination/dream. Yes, how it perceives its dream is determined by the dream headset it is donning.
Are you saying each unique perspective gets to experience their own illusion of freewill?
@@wattaura7621 the one dreamer experiences its dream from all unique perspectives within the dream. The dream is evolving, its evolution is informed by the actions of the unique POVs/dream characters, whether they have freewill or not
@@cabsrhere8897 Did that address my question? Who is controlling the ship? Infinite consciousness or it's modulations? I think we are in agreement, there is no separation, so it don't matter.
Whatever you conceive, perceive or experience is on account of your mind only --- Nisargadatta Maharaj
So damn Deep!!❤
Consciousness living itself living a mind wake.
"The now that flows produces time; the now that stands produces eternity"
time? you mean change
@@mikelisteral7863 no. you misunderstand what the quote means.
@@dpclerks09 time doesnt exist, its just change
past is memory, future is imagination
@@mikelisteral7863 you've yet to apprehend what I've quoted. keep trying. what is change? change does not exist without a reference for time. you clearly do not understand what you are referencing.
Beautiful 🙏🙂
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Thank you, Rupert, for this poem! "-And I have felt
A presence that disturbs me with the joy Of elevated thoughts; a sense sublime
Of something far more deeply interfused, Whose dwelling is the light of setting suns, And the round ocean and the living air, And the blue sky, and in the mind of man: A motion and a spirit, that impels
All thinking things, all objects of all thought, And rolls through all things. Therefore am I still A lover of the meadows and the woods
And mountains; and of all that we behold
From this green earth; of all the mighty world Of eye, and ear,-both what they half create, And what perceive; well pleased to recognise In nature and the language of the sense
The anchor of my purest thoughts, the nurse, The guide, the guardian of my heart, and soul Of all my moral being."--Wordsworth
Like I said, SO DAMN DEEP!
Existence is me and not me(you), experiencing each other. Nothing exists without something else(the other) to experience it. Every person I meet, is not me, it’s you(the other). Every tree in the forest is not me, it’s you(the other). ONE does not exist by itself, it takes two. Everything exists relative to something else.
Christianity recognizes this duality as the father and son. The Holy Spirit is the father and son being aware of each other....experiencing each other (me and you)
@@LifesInsight my analogy is simplistic, there is infinite others, but at minimum it takes two. The you in this case is anything and everything that is not me. Every person I meet, is not me it’s you(the other). I once viewed a video of an NDE person tell her story and God asked her “what would you do if I told you it is just you and me” it sounded like god was answering in the form of a question. Jeopardy style. So what did God mean by “you and me”?
Nice talk. Thanks Rupert.
What Rupert describes here as thinking and perception aligns with the Buddha’s description of nama (name) and rupa (image), one of many ways he breaks down the human mind
Wonderful!! Beautiful! 🙏🤍
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Love her.
Excellent!!!! 🙏👼
You could not be without it .
Since we can't actually experience infinity (all at once), but parts of reality at time, from our point of view, the universe is infinite outwards. But looking inside ourselves, we can spend our whole lives reflecting inward and still not explore all our inner world. So, to our scale, there is infinity both outside and inside. Even if we or the universe is finite, we cannot experience all of it in a single lifetime, so in practice we perceive something vast enough as infinite.
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Rupert confirms these two Bible verses, so simply and clearly that no thing remains misunderstood!
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Wow ❤
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That’s really good ❤
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Gracias Maestro por tan gentil y clara explicación 🙏🏻✨
Rupert, eres mi Maestro preferido; esta explicacion me clarifica aun mas quien SOY¡¡¡¡ MUCHAS GRACIAS¡¡¡¡
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The experience is a beautiful one from this perspective of rose colored glasses that 'eye' own. 😎
....did I mention there is a co-op, meaning unlimited 'shares' are available. 😊
Apparently Rupert is aware of 'this'. 💙
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I had a similar realization that if consciousness exists independent of mind, then mind serves to refract consciousness into individual senses. It's analogous to how a prism refracts pure white light into individual colors or wavelengths. That's a big "if" though...
Thank you for sharing this ❤aloha from big island 🏝️
I love the explanation of the marriage of or mixing of the screen and the mind creating what seems to be “the world”. The substance of it is only consciousness and can ever be only that. Thank you for sharing this. I am in love.
"That's just how the One Reality appears when it's looked at through the lens of a human mind." Heh... I have a VR headset so really appreciate Mr. Rupert's new analogy! lol! Terrific! "There are no dimensions in The Infinite."
I think we are the Aura that can perceive the Sight, hear, touch, taste, we are the Senses that can change Lucidity of what we perceive
So nice to see such happiness and these important subjects discussed. 😊
Muchísimas gracias!!!🙏🤍💛🧡❤️💚🩵💙💜
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omg! This is so beautiful , inspiring and such click on me! Love it❤
When you get into the Now - u know Infinity
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Really good Rupert, despite the woman claiming podium.
'Nothing' is at the hands of Awareness (no hands)😊. There can only be the pinching off from it (two fingers). I choose to point to it (one finger). ☝
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There's no difference between thinking and perceiving. All perception is ultimately thought, even though people typically don't realize it.
Considering P. Rose found out that consciousness is in fact the results of the many quantum computations (thinking), if we take the perceiving, consciousness wouldn’t happen .
I can no think The infinite but i can feel itl
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Another way of understanding is.... through the experiment of white screen and polarizing sheet.
If you remove the polarizing sheet of your computer screen, there's just white light.
The truth is the white light, with all it's might to generate the world, but only perceivable through the polarizing sheet, as multiplicity of objects.
But do not fool yourself, even though you gain the understanding of one conciousness.
Whenever you treat yourself as a separate entity, you have to play within the rules of separate entity, that is Maya and the law of this perceived reality.
I haven’t got a clue of course but could it be that consciousness and perception arise together ?
At some point, the analysis must stop and one must just experience.
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What is a Finite mind Vs Infinite Mind.
How do we think in both scenerios?
Other than no Thought, when does Infinite Thought manifest in our appearance? Is there a voice or a knowing?
to me it is exactly the other way around i am the most finite part of the universe because i am just in this smallest moment of time wich is now and just at the smallest space wich is here anybody that thinks they are more then that are lying.
0/0=E. Nothing divided by nothing equals infinite possibilities.
Emptiness. Full of itself as you/me.
Mind Is finite it could never comprehend infinite. That Is what it's for to create the ilusión hence infinite can then experience finite
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When the VR headset (of perceiving or seeing) is taken off, the Virtual Reality vanquishes, what is left as it is - is Unconditioned Object-less Awareness ie the Infinite.
The Ascended Ones say (to paraphrase),
_"All the 10,000 things go back to the One Reality, which is the Totality of the 10,000 things in essence."_
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«What we experience of the world is this beautiful interaction between the infinite reality and the finite mind that perceives it and the interaction of these two creates this amazing world, it's mindblowing!» And when the finite mind is gone, after death, then there will not be any more interaction between the two, does it mean that it won't be amazing anymore?
"Amazing" requires a subject and an object.
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Infinite without circumference or center. Do not be fooled by the center of sensory perception of a body for a "me".
So you experience a world not centered around your body?
@@pennywise5095 The sensory experience is centered on the body that experiences it, but that is not "my" center....that is not "me". "I" am not the body.
@@NondualityChannel ok be without your body for a minute or 20 after that tell me that you are not the body ow wait you can not anymore because well you are dead and gone by then all this talk means nothing with anything to back it up
sorry for sounding frustrated but after 40 years of fhinking reading meditating i still have found no truth its just not there and people claiming things that are obvious lies just make me more frustrated
@@pennywise5095...and you have not concluded that it's (Truth) probably 'user-defined' & unattainable from another?
@penny, one can not stop being what they never were. Soon this body will die. But ” I “ won’t die because I was never this body. The impermanence of everything, especially life. Peace
I get the impression the lady he’s talking to isn’t convinced at all and is almost mocking his interpretation. Rupert probably sensed this which is why he talks over her
Actually she was right, and Rupert's superimposed answer, a thought/perception itself concerning where it wasn't, then labeled as consciousness, is wrong. "Consciousness originates dependent upon an object of consciousness, therefore it is non-existent. Without cognition and an object of consciousness, there is consequently no consciousness at all." - Nagarjuna, Seventy Verses on Emptiness
Idk if I didn't understand well enough or what he is saying is absurd, how can he talk as if he is so sure when he clearly says that it is impossible for us to know our true self from a human experience?
Because our true self is not the Human experience, just experiencing being a human.
Until it doesn't
The glasses are magical. 😊
Wouldn't say you can't realize the eternity. It's not about "time", there will always be a current moment, an experience playing out. That's eternity. It's always the current moment, even if the planet explodes and the planet Earth is no more, there is still an infinite amount of current moments, the show still goes on. Some experience is playing out despite being utterly pointless lol.
So why are we perceiving this
NOW there is a subtle difference HERE, the EVER-PRESENT can be displaced by the finite (mind).
Thinking in terms of Infinite being displaced by anything just made no sense. 💙
"Ever-present" refers to something that is always present or continually exists, regardless of changing circumstances. Some examples of things that could be considered ever-present include:
1. Fundamental laws of physics: The laws of physics, like the conservation of energy and the laws of motion, are considered ever-present principles that govern the behavior of the universe.
2. Constants of nature: Universal constants, such as the speed of light or the gravitational constant, are always the same and are considered ever-present features of the cosmos.
3. Natural phenomena: Certain natural phenomena, like the cycle of day and night, the changing of seasons, and the flow of water in rivers, are ever-present in the sense that they occur consistently over time.
4. Abstract concepts: Some abstract concepts, like the human desire for knowledge or the pursuit of happiness, can be considered ever-present in the realm of human experience.
5. Basic human needs: Fundamental needs like food, water, shelter, and social interaction are ever-present requirements for human survival and well-being.
These are just a few examples, and what is considered ever-present can vary depending on the context and perspective.
@@GRAND_POOPAHoops, I meant to type Infinite being displaced by some finite object made no sense, is the way Rupert would always state it.
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I just think ever-present is a more meditative way of looking at this. The finite mind wonders out of the present, pinching itself off from the totality, creating the illusion of separation.
So why are there physical laws? When I dream, there are no physical laws from moment to moment within the dream. They are crazy dreams. Yet our perceptions seem very ordered and there's agreement between humans and even animals and of course machines, etc.
I hate it when the questioner feels like they need to finish Rupert Spira's sentences for him.
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The infinite being perceived by the infinite through the finite faculties, we half create half perceive
Why would God fragment itself into a being who has to suffer? God’s nature must include suffering. Trying to escape suffering is therefore ridiculous. But, thinking there is only suffering is also delusional. Reality is the same whether we acknowledge God or not. What does meeting God do for us? Does it make reality beautiful and/or bearable? Why are we cut off and born not knowing ourselves? Why would God do that to itself?
It is a good question and one that ive thought about a lot. However, when you look at the timeline of the human being as compared to the planet/universe generally, you see that the jump from the unconscious animal to the human and then to our impending awakening, it is a very short amount of time. We’re talking about thousands of years versus billions, for a MASSIVE evolutionary jump. We just happen to be smack dab in the middle of the most acute phase of this quantum leap. Kind of a bummer, but also fascinating lol..
Thank you for your thoughtful responses. Personally, I tend to fall towards the probability of there existing a being of perfect Love-inclusive of Ourselves all along. Hell is an open question for me. I'm more inclined to think of re-learning, re-incarnating or something like that. Some people who have had near death experiences say that they were led through events that happened during their lifetimes. The experiencer seemed to gain omniscient perspective of that event and felt how others felt in the situation. So, if he/she inflicted pain, they had to feel the pain they inflicted. If they made a small (or great) kindness that resulted in another's joy, that was felt too. Seems fair. But, I recognize that it is one person’s story, which obviously, I myself did not experience first hand. I don't have to accept it as "gospel." Much of spirituality is an open question for me. I'm ok with that because I think it pushes back against fanaticism and cult following and narrowness of perspective (which unfortunately seems inherent during our little lives much of the time). From the hundreds of accounts of NDEs I've listened to, many containing details independently verified by O.R. docs, nurses and family members, I'm fairly convinced there is a non-religious Force of Perfect Love at the end. Still, I don't make myself believe this 100% without seeing it with my own eyes. But I am willing to include it in my thinking of what is probable and "believe" the testimony of the people who had the experiences. Generally, I don't think religions, or any in-group structures serve people all that well. But, we do naturally want to hear what people have to tell us from their experiences and I think most people try to tell the truth most of the time. In recent years I've gained a lot of wisdom from many teachers both online, in person and in written from. And from quiet reflection and sitting. I think unconditional/unconditioned love is the argument for God or Self or Truth. It's just been so obliterated in life by what our society, our loved ones, our friends and and ourselves have done that it's almost unrecognizable. We no longer trust it. Love is corrupted and polluted, but maybe not at the level of perfected Awareness. I don't know yet. Thanks again for your honesty and bravery in telling the truth. (For some reason, much of this comment is showing up with "strike-through." Not sure why. Possibly, my comment isn’t shown in its entirety.)
The infinite perceives itself as finite, as man, as woman, as life, so to be able to love and be loved in return.
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The real meaning behind genesis two eighteen.
~ The Infinite
Deep calls unto deep.
Have you heard the still small voice?
Can nothing become....anything? Ah
Mind will trick itself into oblivion. Nothing.
Are you bewitched by teachers of this age?
Helpless. Hopeless. Confused. Lost.
Come back to the Source. Your Father. Your God.
The Father of awareness. The Father of spirit. Home.
In genesis, it says that god created light in the darkness. Does this mean he created the light, but not the darkness? A being floating in the darkness and it becomes conscious? And by some way, if he said light there be light, was the spoken word not the first thing created, then light? And if in the case of this video, it would be as if this infinite dot has put on vr goggles made of itself and that is the multiverse? Like in A Mort Well Lived in Rick and Morty where Morty puts on the vr helmet then becomes a whole planet of morties? And rick has to go in and convince a planet of divided unkowing morties to trust him and get out.. were 'those guys' really on to something?
Rupert looks cool in tinted spex!
We are all doomed to repeat these suffering lifes
Reality as a dimensionless point of pure consciousness pfff what is the reason you make life and living so complicated everybody seems confused. It’s in the way they are talking about themselves their true selves and asking I am seeing me as infinite…or…what??
"Infinite"? By the mind's rule? Rupert is amazingly intelligent and loving and when he dwelves into these newageish blahblahblahs, he loses himself into the very blahblahblah that keeps playing. On this one, he joined the band. Being "infinite" is just another toy store. Do you really wanna go there? Who cares if you are infinite or not. Are you happy? Because you can be "infinite" and infinitely unhappy.
What would you say instead?
You dont have a choice whether to “go there” or not, its already the case. Happiness and sadness come and go, if you want to remain in this childlike state of ignorance, have at it, you’ll have plenty of company. But eventually, there comes a time when we have to grow up. The illusion of being finite is the cause of nearly every misery we see in the world today.
Sounds like salvia and DMT realms
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I’m left thinking: so what?
The words and descriptions are not the reality he is describing. Hearing someone tell you about a mushroom trip is not the mushroom trip first hand.
Okay this is key I am the one from reality we are all looking through name is Steven sass I know u believe me
The corn. There is no such thing in time or eternity as infinite nothingness! The only way you can justify that form of thinking, as if to say, God, doesn’t exist. My primary field is the interpretation of symbols and how they give reference to the structure of God.
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Well, the white snow isn't there, as perceived reality isn't real, it's phony. The story we find "ourselves" in, has what is apparently white snow. Whatever the hell that is lol.
"In the limits of the metaphor" It's just a metaphor. Of course, the white snow is not really there.
I think HELL is important because those who reject being submitted to JESUS can not handle the power we will have in the new existence we will have as the new creatures because the creatures we are now are no where as powerful as the ones JESUS has made us as HIS followers It is hidden what we are right now I can totally understand what you are talking about It looks like we are not real, their is no time and space, we are all one consciousness, but we are actually in JESUS and JESUS is considering us as individuals JESUS has made us to become much more than what we are now if we put us under HIS authority and at some point we will be much more powerful and those who reject JESUS should not have that power and will always be evil and to protect the ones who will be subject to JESUS out of love for those who willing put themselves under HIS authority must get the evil ones away from them
The corn. Rupert Spira, You’re missing a very important factor, The Conscious Spirit, and they are one and the same, you can’t have the one without the other. It is consciousness that gives the spirit awareness, and it’s the spirit that gives consciousness purpose, you must start from there. consciousness cannot exist on its own, and the spirit cannot exist on its own. It is what we experience as reality, regardless if it’s physical or spiritual. case in point, on the one side, you experience a form of physical reality that is spiritual, but on the other side, we experience the physical form of reality and the spiritual form of reality in a different way, because we are in the completed totality of the structure of God, versus the one side, only experiencing the first within the end of the Omega, and it’s reflection. On the other side, we experience the last within the beginning of the Alpha, and the first within the end of the Omega, simultaneously. I understand your statement out of your own personal extensive experience. and the reason you would say there is no God.
Another guru..let's feed the starving children instead of trying to accomplish something impossible in this state ❤
There is no Conscious without billions of neurons and synapses, IMHO. That concept of Universal Consciousness only exists in those believing in woo-woo and spirituality. One needs incredible evidence to make incredible claims. Consciousness is an emergent property of a complex brain . 😊.
But science also says the world is inside the mind. The world for example is shape and color. But how do brains look like when nobody is looking, when there is no mind to produce shape and color? The science model seems to be flawed.
That isn't what he is saying. This is not some new age "universal consciousness".