Our Minds are Filters: Rupert Spira
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ย. 2020
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Rupert Spira has a conversation with the audience at SAND19 US.
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"Suffering is the price God pays for manifestation..." Wow.
That is so eerie to me. But it's so true.
My peace is prior to experience, not dependant on experience! - Wow!
The fact that so many of us feel what he is saying as foundational TRUTH is a cause for celebration. Is humanity waking from a deep sleep? I can smell the coffee.
The internet has made information readily available for the majority of the world.
It has destabilized mainstream media brainwashing of the masses.
People can decide which information they want to hear.
We can hear opposing views. According to Adyashanti (another nondual teacher) he has seen more people wake up recently than ever before in history. A Buddha used to be rare, once a century type person, nowadays there are thousands and thousands of living people that have already come to the realisation of their true nature.
The future may be a utopia. Pessimistic outlooks usually draw the most attention but due to tech improvements, the abundance of resources on earth, more people enlightening themselves by choosing which information to consume, I think the future looks good.
However, I mean this in no disrespectful way. The stupidity of the masses never ceases to amaze us.
If only the 10% of humanity would have at least a 10% understanding of what Non Duality is. The world would be 90% more peaceful! Thank you Rupert for being one of the greatest teacher of non duality in modern times
In that case the awareness would lack that kind of experience and which is also the part of infinity
@@dameerdj5403 Precisely. Francis Lucille, Rupert Spira's teacher, says that unconsciousness is the spice of life, and that there's no interesting movie without the bad guy(s).
Non-duality means all is as it should, because this is what is.
@@Misslotusification It's funny how much energy and creativity one must have to explain/describe that what IS. And yet we have no other option but to comprehend it by the finite mind.
If i where to understand and embody what Rupert suggest, the world would be different, like removing tainted glasses.
Don't wait for any one.
Be the first to jump in.
Strangely, you find out every one was awake all along and waiting for you.
So you are the last one.
That is why masters are humble.
You did some math there!! How long did it take??
These talks are INSANELY BENEFICIAL...I think everyone needs to hear these talks DAILY...I have no words ....it's ABSOOOOOLUUUUTELY BEAUTIFUL...the awareness of this infinite potential.. thanks so much dissolving the suffering ... little by little.. breath by breath... happiest tears!!!
Yes... :)
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As I listen to these talks I often wonder: oh my god, how am I even gonna be able to explain this to person X. Or how can person Y ever understand this...
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@@pedrogorilla483 There are persons in the comment section who do not understand a word Rupert speaks. They want to be ignorant and in the dark without even try to know the Truth of their true nature.
@@pedrogorilla483 that's your mind taking you away from timelessness .
"Conciousness is the only experience there is."
The statement shifts me instantly.
‘Subconsciousness’...Pursue the latter, “consciousness”investigate the former “sub”
Gem of a revelation Rupert. "Remind yourself of your infinite nature even when experience takes control, and get back to the natural state. Over time, slowly experience loosens its grip". Thanks a ton, "Teacher"🙏
58 minutes of Rupert talking feels like 5 minutes. I can listen to his wisdom all day.
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The only thing that is appearing to stop you from enlightenment/self-realization/eternal life/knowing yourself to be unconditional love is identification with thoughts, emotions, sensations, perceptions and experiences instead of being aware of being aware and knowing yourself to be that unconditional love pure consciousness in which all thoughts, emotions, sensations, perceptions and experiences appear but are not inherently one with you; they are an expression of unconditional love; you are that infinite that is expressing itself as suffering/pleasure but inherently you are neither; you are that nothing/unconditional love/pure consciousness in which they are appear and by which they are perceived;
Suffering/pleasure comes and goes; there is an awareness that is aware of them coming and going; that you are; remember and know what you are; never identify with anything that is appearing within you; since it appears within you; it can't be you; you are that in which it appears. When you abide as that in which it appears instead of identifying; nothing has a grip on you; if anything comes; it quickly goes; like clouds passing; only if you identify as a cloud then it will appear as if the cloud is here for longer than it is originally supposed to; if you simply rest as the awareness and do not identify; it will quickly dissolve; be unconditional love by being aware of being aware; this is the highest; this is what you are seeking in absolutely everything else; you are seeking yourself; you are seeking unconditional love; but you are looking outside of yourself; instead of being aware that you already are unconditional love. Love love
This Is true amazingly
I love the language Rupert chooses. So well thought through and accurate.
I grew up in the Jewish tradition and a lot of his language mirrors the terms I'm familiar with. Saying that awareness is "clothed" in a "separate self", for example. The Hebrew texts refer to the light and knowledge of God "dressing" itself ("levushin") in the "vessels" of physicality. Etc. Just so many parallels between their language and the non-duality terminology. Truth is truth. Whatever way we get there. 🙌💙🙏
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Fascinating
Wow. He is VERY patient with the questions.
Universe/One verse everything and nothing are one, 1 tempo, 1 tone, 1 note, 1 chord, 1 key, 1 beat, 1 rhythm, 1 melody, 1 harmony, 1 pulse, 1 vibe, 1 energy, 1 pitch, 1 whole, 1 universe. Love to all who sing the one song.
Love to "you" brother.
@@serafimsousa5383 Thank you Serafim, much appreciated. Love, peace, health, and happiness to you.
The best ever heard
Thank you Rupert
Yesterday I begged for clarification to what is happening inside of me and throughout my whole life ....Here came the Answer
Can’t than you enough ❤️
That girl seems very programmed. He is choosing his words well because it is very difficult not to offend such a person who has been taught their feelers are most important. She seems to really want to understand and I hope she makes progress.
PEACE LOVE and GRATITUDE
@@wiard yes we all are programmed and some of us have really done work on ourselves in order to actually help and otherstand others in a meaningful way.. You have no idea who I am and i have offered no information so for you to draw those conclusions is pretty revealing. Sharing your anger and cynicism will gain you nothing other than a quick dopamine rush and less friends.
Take care and best wishes.
@@wiard I agree with you! Non Duality is just a cult based on dogma.
@@wiard Please don't politicize Spira's comments.
@@FootyFrenzyHD Have you experienced the state of what Rupert calls "awareness?"
@@wiard It's simply evident by your disdain for Rupert's teachings(which I doubt you've took a serious look at), and the ease in which a TH-cam comment triggered you.
"Experience becomes transparent to its reality." So, thoughts of anger, selfishness, self-pity, etc., may still arise, but they are seen for what they are - neither you nor yours.
Correct. Anger belongs to the one identified with it. With enough presence, anger is transmuted into passion.
When you listen to the radio. You don't think you are talking what the radio says. Nor do you think it is talking to you.
So believing the voices in your head is a slight psychosis most humans suffer from. It is an accepted addiction.
Thanks. Helped:)
Simply Beautiful..Rupert explains it so well.infact it’s infinite consciousness speaking through him to us which we are aware already but lost in our experiences..Do listen to Krishnamurti. He was so passionate for mankind to perceive it. ❤🙏🏻🌈
love krishnaji
Thank you once again! I love your explanation of love ❤️I feel somehow liberated knowing that the love I seek is the essence of what I am.
Exzellent und außergewöhnlich prägnant formuliert! Rupert ist ein Geschenk für die Menschheit!
Absolutely great knowledge. Master said the suffering is nothing but a pull from the infinite mind to the finite and all the practices what a separate self does is nothing.I could be wrong but what I thought at that point is- that pull maybe a process which may take sometime to complete. And the person also experiences desirelessness and all sort of spiritual feelings which happens for sometime (months and years) before the final understanding. With those feelings arising and feelings participating, an individual can’t do anything other than trying to do something related to spiritual world. He/she must do some actions in order to live. Maybe he starts doing yoga, change in lifestyle, reading and watching spiritual books and contents, contemplating and many other things just to help himself. Those activities are maybe a manifestation of this grand process.I am happy to have remarks to this comment. Appreciate you all great souls. May all get liberated with full understanding.
He is literally an angel 🙏
God bless you, Family 💎
I am peace, pure consciousness, pure unconditional love, happiness, pure awareness, that is all everyone needs to know. Anything outside of that comes from a sense of separation. We are all part of this one consciousness and have to constantly practice this.
Until there is no practice at all, "we" dissolve in "it".
That guy yelling out: "He's doing well" - loved that! LOL! :-)
Me too!
Me 3
He didn’t even realize how naive he sounded or his mental state may be. If you’re 50/50 with being aware of awareness and also being in thoughts and mind and ego, that’s like expert level or above lol. Like apply that percentage to basketball scoring and you’re nearing MJs domain of being. But he meant well mostly.
Yes. Thank you, Rupert.
He really cut right too it and made perfect sense 👍Its really amazing how some people are able to be so aware of their existence. I think it's awesome and makes me feel good and tingly hearing him articulate his knowing of self! Thank you 😀 Namaste!
Thank you, thank you, Rupert, this is a real full monty!!🙏🎶
this guy takes "growth mindset" to a whole new level
Absolutely beautiful, thank you!...
If someone of a certain race or gender asked themselves how can I be more kind and loving? How can I soften hearts and lead others to a state of fairness love and acceptance of all peoples? That would be coming from Life. It’s 100% coming from the ego to ask how we can battle the patriarchy and systematic race-ism. Rupert was being kind in repeating that the questioner needed to reflect on the source of the question. He already knew where it was originating from.
I love these q &a sessions. It all boils down to, you are it, it's not real, do nothing. The whole idea of justice seems laughably human once you start down the non dual path. When u "feel" injustice or disrespected that or your ego/conditioning say it oh we we to defend my universe. It's not "real" in my universe just because it is in yours. Which mean in the greater Brahman it's not real.
The question at 20:00 is extremely helpful!
That is so beautiful Rupert!
I can’t stop listening to you talk’s!
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Blessed be❤
Rupert is amazing! Spot on everyone!
Thank You . Your Voice Texture Simply Clarifies Seekers' SELF By Listening You Calmly. Your MIND Is Absorbed In SOUL . That Is Great Thing.
Awesome explaination. Unbeatable content. 🙏🙏
Is it possible to be truly authentic of the true self. Or are we all playing different roles throughout our life. I love the explanation of experience.I think Rupert has answered my question.
Critique of pure reason ! Direct knowledge is infiltrated! :-)
I am grateful for gods love and life. Thank you x
When It comes to the (apparent) creation of the world what shocks me the most is that awareness limits itself and then the world is created so one could say to limit is to create. This is crazy but makes perfect sense to me now.
I will put it simply :self awareness is a splitter of one reality into I and reality. Into dualism. Reality is not dualism. Just oneness. There is just 1 reality. When you drop self awareness what is left oneness it means real reality. Spiritual training means removing the splitter or as he said the filter. Simply as it is.
The "ice cube" was just water afterall.
Simply brilliant
49:28 this man (in the background) is gifted! 🙏🏻
7:50 greatest service one can render humanity is to recognize ones true nature
21:35 accustomed to remaining in touch with oneself in the midst of experience
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40:04 what is it that is essential to me?
(what am i really)
new default
54:42 Nature of love
Absolutely brilliant!! ✌❤🔥
thank you ive trully enjoyed all of you cristal clear replies !
We are spiritual beings having a human experience on planet earth.
Love the humor!
Thank you Rupert Spira
Gratidão Infinita 😀🕉️ Sat-Chit-Ananda 🙏
Oh man....the recognition of our true nature takes place at the end of chapter one! 🤦♀️
From past "me" to future me, two years later, after watching and being immersed in this clip dozens of times and studying hundreds of hours of Rupert's teachings, this is still one of my favourites.... so beautiful and so eloquently and clearly articulated so as to create a-ha moments and shifts.....I seem to get something new each time. Immensely grateful.💗
I wonder what would happen if someone with torrets or someone who is autistic becomes aware that they are infinite awarness. Would it drastically improve the symptoms of their disability or even dissolve the disability completely? Autistic people are known to become very obsessed with certain things so what if they become obsessed with discovering their true nature and living as pure awareness. It would definitley help with all suffering caused by their disability because pure awarness is never in a state of suffering. Pure awarness is always the same. Open, spacious and clear which leaves the mind open and clear.
The brain is just an "Interface" operating in an Encoded mode.
The Mind is NOT a component of the brain, but instead it is the Observer experiencing the human body and environment.
You have difficulty locating Consciousness (The Mind) as it is Non-Dimensional existing outside the human experience.
My existence is swimming in consciousness. And consciousness is swimming in it.
@@meghan42 Smile.... Not sure what makes you say this, when 'Consciousness' is Non-Dimensional.
Yes and we are “perceiving” through an illusive dimensional construct so we come up with ideas and thoughts that contrast the ego and mind and allow a path back to our true essence of consciousness which we can experience and that’s miraculous in and of itself.
Imagine,dear readers, when this presence would be integrated in the Mondial educational system !.... The Biggest Step in Mankind ; )
Brilliant!
Beautiful 🙏
What to say?..Just SUPER!!!!!!!!
Excellent!
I also find useful Tolle's idea of 'the pain body'.
How does pure consciousness creates a dream without seeing it in the first place? I wish rupert was in front of me live and i shall ask him questions which are never asked before
Please watch this video of Rupert's to get answers to your question.
th-cam.com/video/gZD-c5suBs4/w-d-xo.html
If you cannot find answers please ask me. We will discuss.
It's not just awareness, it is Knowledge As well. So, all experiences exist within this knowledge. Nothing is created or is new, it is manifesting or being projected out of itself to be seen or experienced.
Great Video...
Thank you 🙏🏻 💕
I really like the shirts that Rupert wears.
To find peace go directly to the source, for there you will find conflict.
I don't get it. How do you see conflict at the source?
I find that opposite meet quit naturally and peacefully.
Tell me more about your experience.
Huh?
Happy Thoughts
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It must be lovely being you. Beloved.
I live for the moments when he say "I'm afraid its much worse than that". 🤭🤫🤔🙄🤣😂
The suffering in this case are the questions and questioners . The manifestation is learning that I have to suffer in order to manifest the contents of this video 🤣🤣🤣
The World and You were “born” together
Tem esta palestra legendada em português?
Simply put, we are in a game, and we are each made of the same pixels as the trees, bugs, air, etc. It's just that we developed to create a temp. Self with some power to look back on ourselves (I.e. awareness).
In all religious understandings of which I am familiar, God is aware of what is happening in the world and the individual lives of humanity. Rupert says Consciousness, the Infinite - God - can only be aware of itself and not the finite. He says this “forgetfulness” is the price Consciousness pays for bringing experience into manifestation, as when we dream we are someone or somewhere else, we forget that we are really dreaming and temporarily believe the dream to be reality.
If my understanding of this is correct, my question is, - is it therefore impossible for God, Consciousness, to have any purpose or ultimate plan for creation, or like our in our dreams, there is no meaning, except as some sort of reflection of our individual experience?
The question at 44:00 states this new paradigm.... these teachings are 5000 years old!
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It seems many here have forgotten what is is to love and have empathy, form reading these comments.
When asked why there is suffering in the world, Rupert replied:
RS: "There is a price (suffering) to pay for manifestation."
Questioner: "It's too high, fuck manifes- forget about manifestation, the price is too high."
RS: "It's too high, and that is why it is incumbent on all of us, it is our sacred duty, those of us that have either understood or have begun to understand, and that includes everybody here, that separation, and the terrible things that happen as a result of it are an illusion. And therefore our first duty in life, our first duty, about all other duties is to realize the non-separate nature of our being with all others and things and to live the implications of that understanding."
Link to video with above dialogue: th-cam.com/video/n6id-iLt5eE/w-d-xo.html
"**Love** and do whatever you want." - Spira, quoting Saint Augustus
"Because everything appears in awareness and made of awareness, it doesn't matter how we treat people or behave - that is a complete misunderstanding of the non-
dual teaching" - Spira
Link to the video with above dialogue: th-cam.com/video/24_U6xeAhZU/w-d-xo.html
This woman asked a very relevant question - suffering exists - what are we to do about it? The answer is simply to love, from this place of boundless love within us, as Rupert has said here.
So many who have commented here have overlooked our duty to love, to have compassion for our fellow beings.
Compassion is at the core of the teachings of the Buddha, Jesus, Anandamayi Ma, Ramana Maharishi, all religions dating back millennia after millennia.
The Golden Rule is present in all religions: i0.wp.com/kidworldcitizen.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/52014Golden_Rule_Poster.jpg?ssl=1
For those curious, here is a wonderful write-up on the shortcoming of neo-advaita, specifically the lack of compassion, and the very real presence of love in traditional advaita: www.enlightened-spirituality.org/neo-advaita.html
I hope we may all connect within and realize the abundant and infinite love that flows from this source within.
(these are honest questions, sparked by your thoughtful comment). for those of us who do not have access to love (much less boundless love!) within us, and who aren't interested or aren't willing to put in the discipline to follow a spiritual path, what might we do? does love and empathy exist within even those of us who are the opposite of enlightened? is following a spiritual path necessary the only correct way to live a life?
(i think my questions are partially from my irritation at Rupert when he was answering (and interrupting) the woman's questions. it felt like Rupert wasn't attuned to the level of distress the woman was feeling, and i felt irritated that the "big spiritual advice" (and interrupting) that Rupert was giving her was /not/ addressing/useful to her very pressing distress and feelings of frustration and wishing to undo systemic oppression).
@@silpheedTandy Undoing "systemic oppression" is impossible. Why? There is none. If there WERE systemic oppression, getting rid of it would "systemically oppress" another group.
Love and compassion (or an apparent absence thereof) can be based solely on perspective. For example, a child may experience anger and distress when the parent refuses to give them the cookie they want for supper and instead provides a nutritious meal. The child experiences suffering that is actually the result of the parent's love. The child cannot grow and develop fuelled only by cookies, even if that is what the child's limited mind is convinced it wants. It's an immature and unwise parent who is moved by "compassion" to end the child's temporary and immediate suffering (ie, giving the cookie) with no regard for the implications (the needs of the body and mind -- psychological development and maturation -- long term).
Rupert expertly gives "compassionate concession" to the mind/imagined separate self when not doing so would more deeply entrench resistance. He is "tough" with questioners when not doing so would more deeply entrench (or validate) the imagined separate self. This is the non-rigid flow of true love and compassion springing from wisdom and truth.
To give another example, who loves the alcoholic more truly, the one who pours the drink he thinks he wants and helps him perpetuate his addiction, or the one with the courage to risk his "suffering" anger who doesn't (thereby valuing his life and being)?
@@VeniVizzleViciThis is a fallacy. There is no imperative for one group to dominate another. When one has been the privileged oppressors for a long time being treated equally may feel like loss, discrimination, or oppression, but that doesn't make it so.
Oppression is separation. To view it as inevitable and acceptable is to deny divinity.
@@lousialb8962You speak newspeak when talking about "oppression" and "discrimination."
So I'm a "privileged oppressor" because of the color of my skin. Sure. Keep your worldview conditioned by media.
I have noticed ideas from critical race theory popping up in the questions from the audience. No matter how I look at racism, either from perpetrators or from "activists", it seems to be missing the point of spirituality.
It's all a "component" that was created by us now a part of the fabric on this 3d construct. It doesn't have to be but we continue to want to experience it, knowingly or unknowingly. It's just like any other "negative" or "positive" doings that we partake. It's all created by us for us so it can be removed by us. Consciousness is the only reality.
@@andresmith4637 that was awesome and empowering
@@aurelienyonrac I'm humbled yet grateful that it touched you. We are all one and still learning and expanding. Blessed Love.
Unless one has experienced the Finite Self and Infinite self, studying the Vedas of Indian Tradition, the other may never understand what this great Guru says...
Actually all you ever experience is the Infinate self. Finate self is a thought belived in but it never really existed and you cant really never expererience it. All you ever experienced is the infinate self. Something that is everpresent, limitless, objectless can never NOT be. So your statemetn of studying Vedas in order to really understand Rupert is not based on your experience but is a concept formed by thought because it seems like you studied vedas but still you dont know the basic. Not trying to be rude but just want to help you see your own ignorance. Love&Peace ❤️
@@klemenlogar Thanks a lot sir, in spirituality, no question of ego or hurt..
Infinite Self just “Is”. Subject-object relation/experience is of the embodied self only. When divested/understanding of the matter entanglement, the Infinite self is realized and then as a Jeevmukt, the self realized continues as the finite Self with full awareness of his infinite nature. That’s what little I understood from Advait philosophy and I can’t agree more that Rupert is brilliant in his explanations.
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We realise there is no separate self but the corollary is there is no we as well!! There is only all that is there Is!!! The idea that you are the infinite source makes the you remain and then you try to wrap the mind around how you are everything there is! The idea that you 'are' is false and getting rid of the idea and just letting the source do what it wants to do will solve all the problems. The character in the universal drama(leela) is just that only a character!
The woman asking about racism needs to learn do no harm under natural law...
Because emotional overload is no reason to wanna lash out...
Look at the genocide in Tibet but you don't see the Dalai Lama telling people to lash out...!!!
Emotional intelligence is the key
not some kinda privilege because of what you think is right...
Yes but she is having so much fun and can feel justified.
Oh the delight of punishing those that are guilty. As though guilt was not heavy enough.
Agreed, an irrelevant comment in a company so learned as this.
The mind was born, not you.
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Whoa😮
Yes Rupert reveals true love.
It’s been my sense for a while what he states on love.
I’m not interested anymore in objectifying another.
I love coming fm source.
Not because I’m “in love “ with
another.
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@35:24 .. she said imitation .. but he answered it
Selective attention!
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31 mins 40 the moment I became enlightened
Wellcome back brother, "you" never left really. Peace and love.
Guys, we (our physical bodies, experiences and even universe) really are a dream (pure awarenesses dream) lmao... 😳😳😳 Thanks consciousness. 🤦♀️
This 58 minute video has been up for 10 minutes and it already has a dislike haha
Edit: Maybe it's for that audio, comes good after a couple of minutes though
Actually, non-duality is a tough pill for the illusory separate self to grasp or swallow.
"Hiarky"
Don't be triggered by emotions, usually started by others.
Is that Fredrick Dodson asking a question at 26:20? Lol
I love you
Love
I love you:)
I feel like im 6 and uncle rupert is smoking a joint starting me dead in the eyes and saying that time doesnt exist and the no-one knows what the universe is or if it even exists.
An antenna & filter
Which is on closer proximity?... To Consciousness.
mother child
Men and women
Human and pet
Plants and us or animal
Nature with or without human...
No distance, between any of them. In reality, the past sentence is the truth, but not in the perception of the common psychological mind.
@@JonasAnandaKristiansson Love is true essence of Consciousness. Some of the relationship are so blissful that so many people are not aware of it. Like JK said the experience comes out of these relationships just super imposition...otherwords no effect on pure bliss full state.
@@kesavveluchamy1136 Yes!
I just love the person trying to shoehorn in her woke outrage into such a discussion.... it's the wrong seminar for you dear....
Or it is the exact seminar she needs to "see the light"... that may be the reason she is there...
The only injustice I see is how much crime there is in America. So many predators. Poor innocent Americans.
Considering the holy trinity for a moment. Kinda just struck me listening to this. Did Christianity co-op the notion, or decorate it (and construct a story)of
1. father 2. son 3. Holy Spirit from the earliest human beliefs/notions of 1. conscious-ness (bliss/god, nirvana) 2. The ‘I’
3. awareness (knowing we are all one/non duality)?
Likely other religions too?
And over time all of these ‘religions’ have created various stories, dramas, symbols, languages, judgments, rules, etc …thus painting over the truth with a grand embroidery that all but covers up ‘the truth’(enlightenment) thus making it that much harder for ‘beings’ to tap into. Our modern culture drags about anesthetized from that reality. Like Rupert says, it’s a story we’re telling ourselves. It’s as if religions have attempted to make sense of everything-with perhaps sincere intentions- but have missed the forest for the trees.
I think a new age of society is rejecting religions more readily, so hopefully we are going to turn back into ourselves sooner. Which makes me think of another biblical story: the eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Does
?… Was that our original fall from Grace from the garden of Eden-straying from true consciousness and non duality (creating an ego and a separate self), then left to believe we are separate from the one, and we are always trying to get back.?
Why should consciousness vibrate and cause multiplicity?
on behalf of a temporary finite self 🌵🤠🐴
I feel sorry for Rupert having to field these questions from these types of people.
I know! That first woman is one of those people that doesn't like to think for herself nor does she like to explore her own experience. I'll bet she let's the MSM do all her thinking for her.