John Romero's Daikatana - Just Bad Games
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- John Romero's about to make you... watch a video about a terrible video game!
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I beat Daikatana on PC & N64 back to back. It hurts.
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...this was on N64? First I'm hearing about that
@@Fate263 Blockbuster Exclusive. The only reason anyone would have it is because they decided to buy it afterwards and were so desperate that they'd sink so lo as to buy this tripe.
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Thanks for playing it so I don't have to! I just got the first Quake to work on my RG350, and I love the horror elements in the game. You can use dual shock with both sticks under the PSX emulator, but it's missing the horror. I would have tried Daikatana, but thanks to you, I won't suffer that mistake. Thanks Rerez!
I remember playing a “Fan Fixed Version” of Daikatana a couple years ago that made Companions invincible and turned off Friendly Fire, fixed the AI’s pathing when it follows you, reworked all the weapons and sounds.....so, it was pretty much a “Playable” version of Daikatana, it was Fun ngl
So you're saying the game is good when it's fixed?
@@TeddyCream0 I mean, its sounds stupid when you put it that way but…yes, yes it is.
Do you have a link?
EdwardHamHam it’s called daikatana 1.3 and it’s very very good
Not really "GOOD", but at least it playable
Hold on, sword created by ancestors of protagonist? Time travel? Robotic enemies? Am I the only one that immediately thought of Samurai jack
We just need a shapeshifting master of darkness and we'll be set
Pretty much.
The name of the sword was from a D&D game the founders of ID were playing Carmack was the DM and the sword caused the end of the universe. It translates from Japanese to Big Sword.
I completely missed that one
Distracted with the horrible gameplay
The plot was probably inspired by Frank Miller's Ronin, as was Samurai Jack
I find it highly poetic that the "Ion Blaster" literally backfires in the first few minutes of the whole game. Just succinctly previews the brokenness to come, in-game and in real life.
Let me remind you: THIS IS THE FIRST THREE MINUTES OF THE GAME!!!!
@@goldeneyebannedx2492 Only true Jontron fans remember this.
@@emperorfaiz I remember. Shame about what happened
I once asked a Japanese man how to pronounce the characters in the game's title, and iirc he responded with something like "taisho". So, not "Daikatana"? No, it isn't pronounced like that he said categorically. When a game tries to differentiate itself using a foreign language and they never even bother to ask someone who understands the language if they're pronouncing it correctly that gives you an idea of the level of commitement from the developers.
Ion99 Blaster
"Superfly Johnson" doesn't sound like a character in a futuristic dystopia, it sounds like someone who should be teaming up with Austin Powers.
Haha yes
Oh behave
@@OrgaNik_Music...Right...
@@shawnfields2369shut up bozo
Turtles in time, but, garbage... got it.
Proto!
Mario!
But Proto
It's our lord and savior!
Turtles in Time but bad. Sums it up I think.
"John Romero is about to make you a just bad game" *click click click click click*
Suck It Down™
@Drumslav Czechisenko which loser
♿️♿️♿️
@Drumslav Czechisenko what loser?
We simply can't have a JBG episode without mentioning Batman Dark Tomorrow.
It's a staple of the JBG community lol
No. No we can’t. ;)
Edit: don’t forget “The Ghost of The Money You Wasted On This Terrible F*cking Game.” I named him Ted, after the oft ignored lawyer from Scrubs.
@@lukelandis3090 there are more ghosts than that.
The game that probably made John regretting leaving ID.
He was going to left anyways because he had an argument with Carmack.
He was fired by John Carmack, which Adrian never forgave him for.
NATHANIEL FOGA!
@@everythingevilv1.226 More like he was fired because id higher ups found out he was helping out another company and making one himself.
@@Tamaki742 I didn't way to say it that way tbh lol,he once was one of the big boys at ID.
"You may be thinking, 'who is John Romero'"
"lol" - Everyone
I loved Night Of The Living Dead!
@@xenos_n. that's George Romaro
He's going to make you his b!tch :P
Wasn't John Romero that guy in Black Ops Call of the Dead, you had to kill him as one of Buffy, Freddy Krueger, Machete or that guy from the walking dead? ;-)
*Nervously laugh*
"Yeah... i totally know that before^^"
(Honestly i dont know who he was before this here xD)
"It's not all doom and gloom"
You see, that's the problem: it's not Doom.
It's not even Gloom... I don't know which is worse, actually. Gloom looks worse, but it doesn't have AI allies.
why are you everywhere i go???????
@@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn I dunno, maybe we have similar interests?
@@geniuskhan2520 yeah ;))
@@geniuskhan2520 from K.A.P to SRB2 kart memes you got good tastes bro ;))))))
Who knew John Romero's digital head on a pike sounded like a gurgling Gollum?
I cracked up at that.
I think it'd be funnier if he actually talked like the Icon of Sin did; in reverse. After all, that pike did serve as the icon's core.
I never knew that a creepy Doom easter egg would make me laugh
@@slightlyevolved i mean... all games essentially build on what came before them... so....
I thought it sounded like Gurgy.
If I didn't know ahead (haha!) of time where that image came from, its appearance here would've terrified me. I actually still found it disturbing, lol.
John Romero’s Daikatana: A game that’s fun in concept, but horrible in execution.
That's true for awfully many things for some reason..!
Unlike SAO, Destiny 2, and Halo 5! I don't get why people say that they have bad execution.
Oh yeah and Akame Ga Kill
Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto: A book that sounds great on paper, but horrible in execution.
Episodes 2 and 3 are pretty fun.
Funniest part is that Daikatana translates to just "Big Sword" in Japanese. Great title.
Multiple prototypes leaked through the years also and the development history of "Big Sword" is pretty interesting dispite the final product.
Daikatana actually translates to Great Sword, and is an actual weapon type that's basically an extra long katana
@@metaforth do they also have a word for "greatsword," the less specific term? I.e. if it's big but not a katana
@@nthgth katana i think is just a generic word for sword in japanese.
@@diablo.the.cheater so is there a specific word to distinguish the type we call a katana? So they can be talking about swords in general and then say like "I really like katanas in particular"
Pretty sure sure there is no such a word as daikatana in Japanese
大 is indeed read as dai when connected to another word (which is a Chinese reading, native Japanese word for "big" is 大き, ōki), and 刀 is indeed read as katana (which is a native Japanese word)
Except
1. while making one word by slapping together a Chinese and Japanese reading of two signs isn't unheard of in Japanese, it's not exactly standard either. Presumably two Chinese reasings of these sings would be daitō, and two Japanese ones - ō(ki)gatana
2. Katana would become -gatana when connected to a preceding word, compare Uchigatana
3. The only actual 大刀 word I can find that isn't made up is Tachi, which is indeed a Big Katana or a chinese Guandao, but obv isn't read Daikatana
tl;dr John Romero did a Typical Seppo and smashed two words he recognised in Japanese together without wondering if that even makes sense
It's about the same level of awareness of other languages as making a Russian character called Ivan Ivanovich Ivanovsky bcs u can't be arsed to check for literally any not-stupid Russian name and use that instead
Anybody else notice that the thumbnails for these Just Bad Games videos all have at least one person looking like they're screaming insanely?
Perfectly reflective of the audience. XD
Game: "Daikatana."
My brain: "Die, katana!" "Noooooooooo" *clank*
The names of all the characters are hilarious. I was also obsessed with the east as a child. These are the names that I would’ve used if I made a video game when I was 13.
For those curious how ion Storm could make both Daikatana and Deus Ex... there's were actually TWO Ion Storm studios in Texas, one in Austin and one in Dallas.
The Austin studio was headed by Warren Spector (yes, THAT one) and made Deus Ex, Deus Ex: Invisible War and Thief: Deadly Shadows.
The Dallas one, headed by John Romero, made Daikatana and Anachronox, as well as buying and finishing Dominion: Storm over Gift 3.
Apologies for the bad spelling in my previous post, I was in a bit of rush to get it out before it could be buried by some silly joke or inane commen-
...oh.
What? THE Warren Specter that is famous for creating Deus Ex lead the team that made Deus Ex?
@@TheSorrel The Warren Spector already famous for Ultima Underworld, System Shock and the Thief series when he joined Ion Storm, you mean? :D
Agreed, Anachronox was a great game if you didn't mind the occasional bug or glitch here and there, which were not as bad as Daikatana's. As good as Romero was designing levels he was awful at managing a team.
@@Ometecuhtli Romero didn't even work on Anachronox outside of hiring for Ion Strom Dallas, It was directed and designed by Tom Hall who used to work at ID with Romero before leaving over disagreements with John Carmack during Doom. Tom Hall would work at Apogee before being invited to Ion Storm Dallas by Romero.
"These two swords are one in the same. If they were ever to cross or touch in any way, the world as we know it will cease to exist"
Orrrrrr you could just shoot him. You have an entire arsenal of weapons. But no, plot needs to happen, I guess.
Well, to be fair, that Daikatana sword looks more effective than anything in Hiro's arsenal.
But yeah, still a plot mistake.
Or the main villain could be LYING. The ONLY thing i'll defend. Make the one person who could fight you powerless to actually fight you. Pretty common villain tactic really.
@@zanrath91 Yeah, the villain is definitely overexaggerating for intimidation.
@@zanrath91 Even still, the game should've clarified that. When the protagonist actually attacked the antagonist, it didn't feel like he took a huge gamble that payed off. It didn't look like he discovered that it was a lie. It just looked like the developers forgot that fact.
At least, that's how it looks from this video. I haven't played the game, and I don't think I ever will lol
You also lose all your weapons outside of daikatana when you time travel.
This is what happenes when that one band member that thought they were more important than they really were breaks off to do a solo gig. 😆
Bruce Dickinson in the mid 90s.
They kicked him out
The classic "when the drummer demands to write a song" outcome 😂
The difference between a game developer and a game designer
Lel. This must’ve been a tough pill to swallow for Jon.
Rerez is about to make you his-
friend.
Dad
...Award winning apple pie?
Subscriber
@@rerez am I a friend?
"John, the companion AI might be harder to implement than we thought. Maybe we should ditch the companions altogether and focus our efforts on other parts of the game?"
"Nah...but since we're releasing this game on the Nintendo 64, and the companion system isn't translating well to an N64 cartrige, why don't ditch the companions there? We should still probably leave them in the cutscenes, though, the story would seem a lot weirder if Hiro was just talking to himself."
@@PearangeProductions at least he got one thing right.
" But in the Gbc release we'll do the right thing: switch the character you control. The less the bytes, the best the game!"
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Remember this game started it all for Jontron?
*Pepperidge farms remembers.*
Shane: Canada's family friendly AVGN
@scrubthispie very lol
I'm sorry.
@@souljastation5463 what
“THIS IS THE FIRST 3 MINUTES OF THE *G A M E* “
Doop I had too!
@@ultrabaltard1479 "Ooh, my favorite!" "You press R and A to crouch!" "R AND A!"
“Oh but it’s not all DOOM and GLOOM”
Well played , well played.
Thx for the likes.
This should get so much more likes. The reference to both those games is golden.
This game's concept is 50× better than Gloom, but executes them 50× worse than Gloom
Do you genuinely believe they were cleverly referencing an obscure, bland, amiga based Doom clone through the use of a common expression?
GLOOM was pretty bad too.
@@fwostyshrakes1870 They were at least referencing DOOM, but with GLOOM it is a bit questionable. But I do know AVGN played it.
I love that this whole plot revolves around "big katana".
I would pay A LOT of money to see John Romero play his own creation.
In all fairness, the patches and mods make this game more fun and bring it closer to the state it was meant to be in when released. No one would ever play it vanilla.
Except youtubers
Not to mention a lot of people may not know these mods and patches exist, or how to find or use them.
Let's be real, though. If a game requires that you mod it to hell and back to function, it doesn't make it a good game - not to mention that a person who had picked up the N64 version would have to go even further out of their way to mod it if the idea even came to mind in the first place.
Ryder Ethanol so by your logic every modern game isn’t good?
@@JustAnotherGamerUS Wow, I can't believe how much of a fool I am to think that *literally every game in existence* requires mods to be functional video games.
Legit what universe do you come from where that is the case lmao
Can’t wait for Civvie 11 to review Daikatana, when he gets 200k subs.
I've been doing what I can to get him more subs for that reason.
Boy, this is going to be funnier than Duke Nukem Forever. Wonder if the game will push him to install the fan patch
It's out now (2k subs before he hit 200k but yeah). And it's epic.
"Oh, good job Mikiko...here's a cookie. *Ravenous Munching*
Yeah...I actually fell off my chair...legitimately.
Ouch.
Ooh, we’re tackling a big one today. This might be the most infamous title you’ve covered yet. This gonna be fun.
side note: the promo for this game "romero will make you his ..." wasnt said by him,but by a PR person,and romero didnt even want to make it,but the PR people did it anyway.
But he's humble enough to apologize on behalf. Thankfully Romero never defended this game and learned from it because he knows well that its a garbage train wreck. Unlike SOME devs...
This game is a perfect example of how even the best at their craft can fall from grace
same thing happened to Inafune after he left capcom to make mighty no 9
It's a great example of the Peter Principle. John Romero promoted himself beyond his own level of competence
I love the fact that daikatana literally just means b i g s w o r d .
"Big-Big Sword" specifically. Making the translation extra redundant.
I'm still confused as to why the legendary weapon is just called "daikatana." Isn't a "dai-katana" just a bastardization of "kyo-dai" and "katana", meaning just... big sword/strong sword...
The Daikatana was the name of the master sword in John Carmack’s DnD campaign back in the id days. When John Romero got the sword in-game, it opened up a portal to hell, releasing a swarm of demons and the campaign was over.
@@b3ans4eva wonder if that outcome was intentional or not
@@b3ans4eva If I recall, wasn't that their inspiration for Doom as well. I remember hearing that somewhere, but never verified it.
Because it sounds cewl
Yup, still remember "John Romero is about to make you his bitch" ad on so many video game magazines back then.
After Daikatana launch, everyone mock that ad.
Well, with Id Software being back in the mainstream with the new Doom and Wolfenstein games, as well as Quake Champions, it would be pretty sick to have a new Daikatana game, made the way it was originally envisioned.
This video actually made me think of making a Doom mod featuring the maps in this game, lol
Epic Typhlosion you should! I’d play it on day one!!
Agreed. Reboot shitty franchises and make them good.
@@PosthumanHeresy Well Sega did remaster Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz for all major consoles. Unfortunately they didn't really change the design of the game as a whole from the Wii and only made it so that there's no motion controls. Even then the game has no challenge whatsoever, even for the original Wii release. They could've made it so that there were no barriers in the remaster to resemble *some* challenge, maybe even make the stages smaller to compensate for the lack of motion controls (not that that's a bad thing). But nope, they decided to keep the game as is and just make pretty HD graphics. None of this would be a big deal as people thought it was just something Sega wanted to do for fun and to peak interest for either a remaster of the first 2 games or a new Monkey Ball game! And while the latter is somewhat true, the former not so much. Sega outright said that "if you want more Monkey Ball, then buy Banana Blitz HD"
id *didn't* make the new Wolfenstein games, they haven't touched the franchise in a long time. They also were never involved with Daikatana.
'Here's how Superfly uses a door', lol!
I'll forever know this game as one of JonTron's first videos.
8:10 That was crying?! It sounded like laughing.
...for one reason or another, I get the feeling the actor might've been laughing through it...
Timestamp fail
Kind of cringy.
Same, I thought he was sarcastically making fun of you for dying. Part of that’s probably down of the similar tone of the console death messages (“your skull appears to be split open”; “you failed at life”… >_>), but the rest is 100% terrible voice acting.
This is the equivalent of saying: Notch's Epic Diamond Sword
The game is literally called "Big Sword" so you aren't that wrong
Luckily John Romero made the source code of this game available and that brought us the unofficial 1.3 patch that fixes majority of the issues, improves the sidekick AI and makes em immortal, including the option to play without them, also the reason why loading times are long is due to VSync, turn it off and it'll load much faster.
For those who wanna play it here's some small hints Invest your skill points on Power and Vitality only, stuff like Acro is only used for finding secret areas but you will find a powerup that temporarily maxes it out and are normally closer to the mentioned secret area you need. The speed is just useless once you learn strafe jumping ( it has a very satisfying strafe jump mechanic btw), ya could spend points on Attack to increase the fire rate of your weapons and finally, you can max out the Daikatana sword right in ancient Greece which has it's own stats but god damn is it OP when it's maxed out.
“We’re at max blindness!”
Fun fact: ion storm had two studios! Deus ex was made by the one not coked up from John Romero and his rockstar style parties.
It almost seems like he just forgot about and just remembered one day, then released it as is.
10:00 No no no, that's not Ghostbusters Logic...That is Time Cop logic...KNOW YOUR SCI-FI, MAN!
How come every game Rerez reviews always comes back to Batman: Dark Tommorow?
"uhhhh...."
Because “It’s Just Bad”
I’ll see myself out.
It's a black hole of terrible sucking everything nearer to it
Because nearly every video game reviewer has a game they keep coming back to at least for a while. See for example Nitro Rad with Ty The Tasmanian Tiger.
i love the "don't you dare leave!" 13:59
"You can't leave without your buddy, Superfly"
16:23 Talk about a lawsuit waiting to happen!
Seriously amazing commentary, humour and editing skills guys. I knew from reputation Daikatana was bad, but not that awful. You did major public service work here.
4:53 is the best moment love these ghost characters
5:06 is basically how people feel after playing this game
"Every time you travel have to rebuild your inventory from scratch." Well, I mean, Doom.
Huh? I don't remember time travel being a plot point of any Doom game I've played. I'm assuming you mean going back to the start of the level when you die.
@@WillieManga I mean every time you go between episodes
13:03 LMAO! Great edit, got a big laugh from me.
I thought ya'll added that clanking sound in lol
Nope. It's right in there.
I really appreciate this series. Every time I am stressed watching these videos help me calm back down. Idk why but I’m happy it works lol
The fan patch actually make the game pretty fun.
I just found your Chanel last week and I love it keep up the great work guys
16:18 "my name is yoshikage kir-"
3:50 I was not ready to see that.
_MY PREEEEEEEEEEECIOUS......_
i read an old magazine review of this game...it said that on at least one level, the game wouldn't register that Michiko is AT the exit, making it impossible to finish the level!
there is NO excuse for releasing a game with a bug THAT bad!
they even had a picture: Michiko is standing at the exit, AND the the game is displaying a message saying she needs to be at the exit!
9:27 hearing about Kemiko and superfly makes me appreciate donald and goofy more in kingdom hearts
Interesting tidbit: many of the ideas in this game (the magic weapon, rpg elements, traveling through time and space) were all ideas for the original Quake. However the development went with Carmack's technology rather than the original idea and this was the result after Romero left. There was high hope for this... I mean Romero essentially made the video game equivalent if Thriller at the time.
john romero was the ideas guy, while john carmack was the guy that makes it happen, if the guy that makes it happen says the idea's not happening, the idea's not happening... i feel like daikatana ultimately failed because nobody was there to say no to john romero
I remember a old video from the TH-cam channel Geographica called Top 100 Worst Games Of All Time and Daikatana was 100th.
“Daikatana literally corrupts your game if you save on a moving platform”
“It also invented the glorious phrase: Suck It Down”
“Nowadays, the word Daikatana stands for: Your career is over”
Don’t forget about Catacomb 3-D, Shane! After all, your “weapon” in that game is literally your character’s outstretched hand as he chucks fireballs and other spells Super Mario style at the usual assortment of high fantasy tropes, Orcs among them. 😹
The 2 swords thing is a thing from ancient Japan. You’d forge 2 swords on an order, put your name on the one that’s better and sell that to the customer where the other gets sold cheaper without the smiths name.
So it’s trying to say the 2 swords were forged together, likely the main character syndrome means our player gets the named one.
I should make a shirt
"I was forced to play daikatana, SHOOT ME!!!"
Absolutely loving this series guys!
🤔 Just found this channel last week. I've been binging for days, and this is definitely one of their best videos. 🔥🔥🔥
4 years late, but fun fact, the game loads slowly because it has to wait for every "Dink" tick when the loading bar is filling up.
Nobody ever mentions Ion Storm made the og deus ex that also came out in 2001.
Ultimate plot twist!
By my reccollection, the Daikatana team and the Deus Ex team has little overlap for various reasons, among them naturally being the long dev crunch of Daikatana.
The team designing Deus Ex were busy designing Deus Ex.
The team designing Daikatana were busy living like rock-stars.
Superfly nearly having a meltdown because a guy he barely knew died was funny.
16:08 the sword came back flying to hero's hand??
You know, whenever I hear Superfly mourning Hiro, I do think of the spelling "Hero" for some reason.
This is by far your funniest episode yet. 🤣 Lost it at the Romero quote.
I swear the Mishima family just loves to start beef with everything
"You travel back to the medieval period and have to find sword pieces to be reforged into a legendary sword"
There's inspired by Chrono Trigger, and then there's ripping it off.
At 7:18 You'll see the words in Enlgish, "Scioo" but I know Japanese. That Katakana in Japanese reads, "Sa-I-Kkou" meaning, or using English letters, "Saicoo". The game developers even translated this so OBVISOULSY worng! I'm shock. and in awe of their lack of care xD
I love how the main villain's name is taken from both Virtua Fighter & Tekken.
Kage (Kage-Maru from VF) & Mishima (Heihachi/Kazuya/Jinpachi)
This was a great game for the Gameboy Color. Must have for true collectors.
Superfly was just too scared to tell Hiro how he really felt about him, until he died. A truly tragic love story.
You want a first-person shooter RPG? Hexen and Heretic are the way to go.
"Daikatana BIG SWORD!"
Matt McMuscles
"What does Daikatana mean?" "It means Big Japanese Sword."
“But with Superfly at your side, you get this” After this line, I got an unskippable ad.
(If an actual game like that exists, I swear I’ll nuke everything within a 20 mile radius of the developer)
2:16 Um. Gendy Tarkovsky Called. He wants that idea to be his.
Jamel at Bitchute & DTube idea
Thanks for the typo fixing.
anyone here waiting for Civvie 11's episode on Daikatana?
Interestingly: The GBC version doesn't suck at all! It's actually one of the most solid action-adventure games on the system, and had good reception despite being only released in Europe. Romero himself actually leaked the prototype of the USA release and the European ROM back in 2004, and this month's nintendo gigaleak saw yet another unreleased copy of it.
He was, was as in past tense. I saw the expansion pack symbol and i wonder what it added. Since alot of game's gained a few thing's with the expansion pack i wonder this game gained. Perfect dark for example gained extra bots and a whole new multi-player map.
Is it me, or does John Romero kind of look like Adam Sandler doing the Opera Singer character?
BTW, Hiro Mitamoto's name is inspired on...
Yes, Shigeru Mitamoto, Mario's creator, since John Romero admires the game developer from Nintendo.
The Romero head was a nice touch to explain how this awful, awful game came to be.
Daikatana is a prime example of what results when you are completely full of yourself.
also Mighty No 9
18:44 kemco now publishes JRPGS for the phone, such as Asdivine Menace and Fernz Gate.
Edit: someone has brought to my attention that kemco only publishes these games, and that Hit-point makes them.
No, who makes those games is Hit-Point, Kemco only publishes them.
@@thefallenwarrior4349 Ah, my apologies.
This game turned Adam in to a battered spouse, lol. (13:54)
Love you guys! Thanks for doing this!
2:05 side note- why is it always some ancient power, weapon, or civilization that has been lost for a millennia? how many "lost for a millennia artifacts of great power" could there possibly be? because based on pop culture, I probably have one hidden in my sock drawer that a protagonist hasn't found yet.
You know, for the longest time, I couldn't understand why that John Romero advertisement was so bad. I mean, there were crazier ads around that time that showed imagery that had nothing to do with the games they advertised, let alone showed gameplay.
Until I did a bit of research.
It turns out that it was less the ad itself and more the aftermath. The fact that the game took so long to come out and, when it did, it wasn't as good as anticipated made the advertisement sillier (and probably more upsetting) in hindsight.
8:30
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XD
*why*
I watched this video when you first uploaded
I'm glad to comment, give likes and share
Well done bro
I'm so impressed by your coverage of this
Daikatana is basically Drake of the 99 Dragons mixed with Ghosts of Tsushima, Doom 3D and Perfect Dark. The Last 3 games I mentioned are way better than both Drake of the 99 dragons and Daikatana.
11:01 You could say... it's greek to you?