great idea reduce function but add bling garbage for a massive price and a worse performance thats a great idea clueless wanna be James B get ur wallet out son @@NotYourSpy \
Good info on the 14-52 gearing. I was hoping you would mention something about that. The amount of chain slack required on my 23 factory edition is ridiculous. Thing is slapping all over the place lol
Consumer: 2022 - Frame is too flexy even though I don’t know what that means 2023 - Frame is too stiff because social media told me it was 2024 - I’m switching the Suzuki! Aluminum is compliant. Just look at Kenny
Consumer: 2024 - KTM needs to go back to the 2022 chassis! The chain gets tight on the 2024! 2024 - The rest of us who’ve owned KTMs for 20+ years sitting back with our popcorn reading social media be like, “That isn’t new. Read your owners manual.”
It's crazy that you were rained out at Glenn Helen and then sunny skies and some dust on your track that is only 30 minutes away? Talk about micro climates. The bike looks nice. My brother bought a brand new 2023 and he loves it. Thanks for the video. PS: He is having a little bit of a hard time transitioning from a bike that has traditional spring forks to the air setup. If I'm not mistaken, don't the factory teams use springs in both forks?
So, the 2024 factory edition has the 2022 frame.😄 I have 2, 2022 Austrian bikes. After riding friends 23 yzf250, whose suspension is setup for person 30lbs heavier than me. Night and day difference between the suspension, kyb is much better.
I’m a heavier guy as well. I weigh 220 and love my 22 1/2. Albeit I have WP Xact Pro shocks/forks and bibbed tires. She rides a little rough. But I like being able to feel the bike.
I’m a clydesdale of a man, 6’2 218lbs. I love the rigidity of my 24. Only complaint I had was the suspension was a bit soft and handle bars were about as flat as a xc mountain bike.
I’m happy to see people like the new unit. There will be a bit more stuff coming i’d simply guess. The Unit as in non of the two parts is from LitPro of the CUO just to let one know.
Actually not? Most of the app is in-house as far as publicly known. LitPro already has experience in showing tracks etc. and already having a lot of the infra it just made sense to collaborate..
You did an excellent job with this video. You hit all the questions. Especially the fact that we can backdate to 23 or 24 for the litpro. Can we install it on a 2 stroke?
I like the colorway of the factory edition. They need to get rid of the purple on the standard edition, though, purple and orange do not go together--at all!
Because people bitched they were too flexy before that 🤦♂️ That’s what happens when the listen to the peanut gallery. Normally it would help for Supercross too. No doubt they tested works versions of it in Europe and it worked great, but production it came out stiff. Perfect for most weekend warriors buying 5 year old bikes. They wont have flexed stressed out and cracked frames that the cheap ass Japanese bikes are known for.
Man you know what would be good you guys do a series of videos teaching us how to edit GoPro videos using the quick app and using a PC, I mean you guys do it daily, I do have a hard time to edit my videos and all the info out there gets confusing and complicated, great video 🤘🏻
@@JohnHowerton137 I agree that there are a ton of videos but all of them are confusing and not specific, the people making those videos talking like they are talking to people that already knows videos editing, they talk about stuff that I never heard before and don’t explain how to get into that, anyway would be cool to have a series of videos simple, easy and straight to the point, I am not begging for it just saying that would be cool to learn from pros like MXA.
@@ed11. just saying, MXA probably learned from them. Just type “Beginner” or “for dummies” in your search. There is plenty of tutorials. Besides, it’s unlikely MXA is using GoPros for most of their content.
Please explain how the mapping works with the CUO. Can you change both green and white maps ? If you alter traction control i suppose it only makes a difference when you switch on TC on the handlebars ? An in depth video would be nice to show all the workings of the CUO and what it does in detail. Especially the engine program side.
I can remember when I was racing Mini A my dad saying $2500 was a lot of coin for my 07 KX85(and that was discounted as I rode for that shop). I think they were closer to $3k. Now I don't blink when I have to get a $10-12k bike each season. When will 450 prices peak before electric bikes replace them...$15-20k? Anyway solid vid Josh as usual.
When you upload your new maps, can you change both White/Blue map buttons? Or is like the old unity, which only allowed one to change the first map not the second map button.
It would have cost KTM a lot less, if they had listen to me or read about the need for the frame to be how it used to be and not to keep stiffining it where even pros complain
Probably on the XC. The PDS models XC-W and EXC are usually a year later with the big updates. Never know though. Mfg might be more streamlined after the Coe-Vid debacle.
When the 2024.38904523 comes out, it will most likely have the 2016 swingarm and linkage. 2015 plastics and a steel gas tank to better compliment the steel frame. Rumors of a 3d printed sub frame made from reclaimed plastic water bottles are out there as well 🤪
Pivot location on the frame is not in line with the countershaft-too high!! Remove the shock-and move the swingarm thru its arc-the chain gets so tight by full compression there is no chain play.
I honestly think that when the Austrians bite the bullet and manufacture a aluminium frame and use conventional oil forks they will start winning or even dominating.
I doo like how my ktms compare to my Honda but my Honda is a 2006 and my ktm is 2023 so that may be why. Honda is easier to ride but doesn’t turn as good. Ktm feels more manurverable but maybe a bit less stable sometimes beginner rider tho so I am not an expert on this stuff
Interesting to hear folks still think aluminium frame would be better. The main reason Japs went to alu is because it's cheaper and easier to produce. Also aer isn't necessarily worse, they've improved a lot I hear
Funny: “Get rid of the purple. Doesn’t go with the orange!” “Retro bikes are sick.” White/Purple/Orange Now this: “Go back to the non-orange.” Aka; White bikes with purple and orange 😂 The internet is so fun. No wonder nobody can figure out what gender they are these days. Pro Tip: buy whatever bike you want. Get whatever color plastic you want for $150… it’s 2024!
dirtbikes were made in india, never austria for years. Starting this year they are shutting down ALL manufactering and moving it to China @@christopherevans4978
Doesn’t seem they have anything on there chart + they still didn’t really enter the market. I’d simply guess they will not be able to get a similar unit with possibilities to upgrade.
BRO IF IT WASENT A KTM U WILL SAY IS A SHIT BIKE BUT U ARE A KTM BOY :))))) BUT IN THE VIDEO U LOOK LIKE THE BIKE KILLS YOU :))))))). 12500 and 6000 suspension how this bike is good !!? 😅😅😅
Excellent review overview. Amazing photos and videography!
Those hills look fun!
That track looks like a blast!
at least WP are keeping all the suspension shops open thx guys
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They need to Make a cone valve factory edition
You own wp.
great idea reduce function but add bling garbage for a massive price and a worse performance thats a great idea clueless wanna be James B get ur wallet out son @@NotYourSpy \
Spring Suspension i guess? I’d probably still give people the option to choose as it’s preference..
Downshifting during a scrub? So, so much for me to learn. Excellent review guys.
This bike longs to be a two-stroke. Look at the exhaust header from the side.... 👍
Good info on the 14-52 gearing. I was hoping you would mention something about that. The amount of chain slack required on my 23 factory edition is ridiculous. Thing is slapping all over the place lol
2022 - We need a stiffer frame
2023 - It's too stiff
2024 - Lets go back to the 2022, but pretend it's new
Consumer:
2022 - Frame is too flexy even though I don’t know what that means
2023 - Frame is too stiff because social media told me it was
2024 - I’m switching the Suzuki! Aluminum is compliant. Just look at Kenny
Consumer:
2024 - KTM needs to go back to the 2022 chassis! The chain gets tight on the 2024!
2024 - The rest of us who’ve owned KTMs for 20+ years sitting back with our popcorn reading social media be like, “That isn’t new. Read your owners manual.”
Video looks great! What camera do you use?
It's crazy that you were rained out at Glenn Helen and then sunny skies and some dust on your track that is only 30 minutes away? Talk about micro climates. The bike looks nice. My brother bought a brand new 2023 and he loves it. Thanks for the video.
PS: He is having a little bit of a hard time transitioning from a bike that has traditional spring forks to the air setup. If I'm not mistaken, don't the factory teams use springs in both forks?
So, the 2024 factory edition has the 2022 frame.😄
I have 2, 2022 Austrian bikes. After riding friends 23 yzf250, whose suspension is setup for person 30lbs heavier than me. Night and day difference between the suspension, kyb is much better.
I mean the yz250 has used the same chassis since 2005 and is arguably one of the most comfortable 2t out there.
Soooo, no. 22 and 24.5 chassis is completely different
@@Runk3lsmcdougal like to see a comparison between them.
@@panic-revv85 four-stroke. Yzf
I’m a heavier guy as well. I weigh 220 and love my 22 1/2. Albeit I have WP Xact Pro shocks/forks and bibbed tires. She rides a little rough. But I like being able to feel the bike.
plz do a 2024 125 shoot out
Really none of the 125s changed. The only difference from the 23 shout-out would be if they included a Beta or a TM.
where is this turn track?
I’m a clydesdale of a man, 6’2 218lbs. I love the rigidity of my 24. Only complaint I had was the suspension was a bit soft and handle bars were about as flat as a xc mountain bike.
😂 🐴
yep love my 23.5. Added spring forks and went up a tooth on the rear and she is perfect.
Not a clydesdale bud
Great review. I want to ride there. Looks fun
I’m happy to see people like the new unit.
There will be a bit more stuff coming i’d simply guess.
The Unit as in non of the two parts is from LitPro of the CUO just to let one know.
KTM has to have Litpro to built a smartphone app!
Actually not? Most of the app is in-house as far as publicly known. LitPro already has experience in showing tracks etc. and already having a lot of the infra it just made sense to collaborate..
Another great video!!!
Very nice now come stock with spring forks
Possible but not wanted by everyone, might remove the option of the sensor’s that are not here for now but could get to the bike..
Is FXR gear here to stay, looking fresh & classy.
Was this at J-land, NM?
You did an excellent job with this video.
You hit all the questions. Especially the fact that we can backdate to 23 or 24 for the litpro.
Can we install it on a 2 stroke?
Not yet possible on the 2stroke i guess retro vitable but might need to go to the dealer for that. But for sure not before 2025
so does the chain still bind with the swingarm arc?
My god that music at 10:21 was atrocious as it gets but other than that it was another fantastic test by MXA.
i didnt mind the music.....reminds me of 1960's era
Might be my future 450
KTM: How to fuck with your customer.
Can the transponder be used for racing as opposed to renting a transponder?
It’s on the list of features that might be possible i heard.
I like the colorway of the factory edition. They need to get rid of the purple on the standard edition, though, purple and orange do not go together--at all!
So do you believe that the new linkage makes the bike softer and helps with overall rear traction
KTM used to be known for having a different feeling chassis have no idea why the hell they went for a stiffer feel it’s not an aluminum frame lol
Because people bitched they were too flexy before that 🤦♂️ That’s what happens when the listen to the peanut gallery. Normally it would help for Supercross too. No doubt they tested works versions of it in Europe and it worked great, but production it came out stiff. Perfect for most weekend warriors buying 5 year old bikes. They wont have flexed stressed out and cracked frames that the cheap ass Japanese bikes are known for.
Man you know what would be good you guys do a series of videos teaching us how to edit GoPro videos using the quick app and using a PC, I mean you guys do it daily, I do have a hard time to edit my videos and all the info out there gets confusing and complicated, great video 🤘🏻
Probably 1,000 tutorials on YT about that stuff from professionals. Don’t need MXA to teach you that.
@@JohnHowerton137 I agree that there are a ton of videos but all of them are confusing and not specific, the people making those videos talking like they are talking to people that already knows videos editing, they talk about stuff that I never heard before and don’t explain how to get into that, anyway would be cool to have a series of videos simple, easy and straight to the point, I am not begging for it just saying that would be cool to learn from pros like MXA.
@@ed11. just saying, MXA probably learned from them. Just type “Beginner” or “for dummies” in your search. There is plenty of tutorials. Besides, it’s unlikely MXA is using GoPros for most of their content.
Please explain how the mapping works with the CUO. Can you change both green and white maps ? If you alter traction control i suppose it only makes a difference when you switch on TC on the handlebars ? An in depth video would be nice to show all the workings of the CUO and what it does in detail. Especially the engine program side.
I can remember when I was racing Mini A my dad saying $2500 was a lot of coin for my 07 KX85(and that was discounted as I rode for that shop). I think they were closer to $3k. Now I don't blink when I have to get a $10-12k bike each season. When will 450 prices peak before electric bikes replace them...$15-20k? Anyway solid vid Josh as usual.
Ohhhh do I so badly want one of these.
Is this bike lighter ? Compared to the 2023 model ?
Omg Love it!~ I have a few of the KTMs and love all of them . pretty sure there is going to be a 2025 added to the fleet ~ thanks for the video!
Does ktm still say it has the anti squat built into this new chassis?
Yes it is, this technically isn’t a new chassis, but a refined version of the 23-24 model
When you upload your new maps, can you change both White/Blue map buttons? Or is like the old unity, which only allowed one to change the first map not the second map button.
Going down the hills at glen helen I always just pull the clutch in.
where we can find Tshirt Twin Air like that you wear?
as a trail rider I want to get into track riding should I just spend the money and this bike ?? or just the normal 450 ?
It would have cost KTM a lot less, if they had listen to me or read about the need for the frame to be how it used to be and not to keep stiffining it where even pros complain
do these also have problem with the wires getting water in them? i heard 23-24 have that issue, dont know if it has happened to anyone else
Will the 2025 XC line receive the same changes ?
The CUO will work on it for the frame etc. not sure 🤔
things brother and material i like it 🏆
60HP on dyno?? 60 wheel??
Did they fix the chain tension issue-tension increases as swingarm moves during suspension compression to fiddle string tight!!!
Since when, 1999? This isn’t new 😂
I heard the 2024.75 its going to have yet another frame 😂
Do you think this new frame update will be on the 2025 xc and xc-w 2 stroke frame?
Probably on the XC. The PDS models XC-W and EXC are usually a year later with the big updates. Never know though. Mfg might be more streamlined after the Coe-Vid debacle.
When the 2024.38904523 comes out, it will most likely have the 2016 swingarm and linkage. 2015 plastics and a steel gas tank to better compliment the steel frame. Rumors of a 3d printed sub frame made from reclaimed plastic water bottles are out there as well 🤪
The orange looks more Flo-orangy 👌
Will my 2023 ktm A- kit from wp work on this new bike
Yes it will!
Beautiful 🤩 ❤
Thank you!
Pivot location on the frame is not in line with the countershaft-too high!! Remove the shock-and move the swingarm thru its arc-the chain gets so tight by full compression there is no chain play.
Ass. Bos bisa tanya2 dlu ga.. sya minat yg ktm 450 cc nya
The music is torture.... please only bike sounds.
Can you please do a review on the Honda CRF 150f.
This or the 24’ CRF450r WE?
The Honda will be all new for 2025 so I would wait.
Never say never 😊
That bike is awesome I love it
Your music is too damn loud.
I honestly think that when the Austrians bite the bullet and manufacture a aluminium frame and use conventional oil forks they will start winning or even dominating.
Never happen
Didn’t AP just win?
I doo like how my ktms compare to my Honda but my Honda is a 2006 and my ktm is 2023 so that may be why. Honda is easier to ride but doesn’t turn as good. Ktm feels more manurverable but maybe a bit less stable sometimes beginner rider tho so I am not an expert on this stuff
they are moving all manufacturing to China. They've given up
Interesting to hear folks still think aluminium frame would be better. The main reason Japs went to alu is because it's cheaper and easier to produce. Also aer isn't necessarily worse, they've improved a lot I hear
The best looking KTMs were not orange and I hope KTM will begin to listen and get rid of the orange pallet.
Funny: “Get rid of the purple. Doesn’t go with the orange!”
“Retro bikes are sick.” White/Purple/Orange
Now this: “Go back to the non-orange.”
Aka; White bikes with purple and orange 😂
The internet is so fun. No wonder nobody can figure out what gender they are these days.
Pro Tip: buy whatever bike you want. Get whatever color plastic you want for $150… it’s 2024!
Hmm Orange and Black are the Brand colors today.
Made in China
Big deal, everything is.
???????? no, my yamaha is made in japan, which is extremely high quality@@OtisFlint
Since when? Thought it was Austria
dirtbikes were made in india, never austria for years. Starting this year they are shutting down ALL manufactering and moving it to China @@christopherevans4978
Nope non of these bikes are made in china probably never will be the case as Customers in the USA and Australia 🇦🇺 aren’t liking that.
Guys just wait for Ducati to come out with a kit ohlins as an option. And their electronics package
Doesn’t seem they have anything on there chart + they still didn’t really enter the market. I’d simply guess they will not be able to get a similar unit with possibilities to upgrade.
looks plush and broken in
asdf
BRO IF IT WASENT A KTM U WILL SAY IS A SHIT BIKE BUT U ARE A KTM BOY :))))) BUT IN THE VIDEO U LOOK LIKE THE BIKE KILLS YOU :))))))). 12500 and 6000 suspension how this bike is good !!? 😅😅😅
Overpriced, over complicated rich boy's toy