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Yeah, the Michael Flinn conspiracy theory. You mean the one they just found damning evidence that the FBI trapped him into making a plea deal. I think the left are the conspiracy theorist.
@G M multicultural is good look at the United States of America. They are the number 1 super power in the world and they have soo many cultures and that’s what makes it a great country. Even though it has its problems with blacks and minorities. It’s still great to have multicultural. So that humanity and any country will have diversity and not just one cultural or race!
We've been overton windowing our parents all the time I we were growing up. Needed new jeans? Ask for a new fancy jacket & negotiate down. The pregnancy one, as powerful as it is, can only be used once before serious grounding, or a slap occurs!
@@ramarblood7697 true, but also, I'd argue more people should. I heard SO many people say "I'd vote for that libertarian dude (the only other big vote in the 2016 election) but it's a wasted vote soo" that if they just all voted for that guy he would have gotten pretty far. I'm interested seeing if a 3rd party will get any farther in the 2020 election??
“The perfect is the enemy of the good” That’s what we always say when someone, mostly democrats, say that they will not vote. If you keep looking for the perfect candidate, you’ll overlook the ones who might do less harm than Trump.
KSJDbv dividing a nation like this isnt fixing it. We need someone in the middle to draw the right and left back together. America is only gowing to grow mire divided under a right or left president
it's like that boy who goes with his father and asks "can i get a dog?" and the father "no way!" his friend says "you're asking it wrong. let me show you" thet go with the friend's father and he asks "can i get an elephant?" and the father replies "no way...! a dog, maybe..."
This is why Bernie Sanders calling himself a Socialist is the best thing to happen to politics. The popularity of M4A happened because he first shocked everyone with that S label.
Socialism has never once served a nation as well as good old fashioned Capitalism has. And having Barnie Rubble Sanders in the White House would be an unmitigated disaster. Just forget his buddy's yabba dabba doo.
It's been in the works since the late 1800's when the Republican party aligned itself with the "Fat Cats" of America. Since then the richest of our society have predominately been utilizing the Republican party to achieve their own personal agendas. It's now simply come to the final stage wherein one of those Fat Cats is now in charge, and America has become an Oligarchy.
Meanwhile over here in Europe where we haven't been as desensitize, all this looks like a kindergarten play. And no I am not exaggerating. That's how this looks like. Its so far outside of the realm of reason that people have a hard time accepting news coverage from America is real sometimes.
When you make fun of America the trumptards make fun of how many Muslims you have? That’s the best you got? Don’t worry will die sooner from Trumps ignorance than Muslims anyway.
At this late stage, the Anglo-Saxon right wing has completely lost its mind. USA - Trump, UK - Brexit, Canada - Dr Lobster, Australia - Scott "Hillsong Church" Morrison. The only English speaking country covering itself in glory at present is New Zealand where the centre-left Labour Party is totally bossing it. Help us, Jacinda Ardern. You're our only hope
@@jeffthepotato5195 Maybe you should load up with some semi automatic rifles, go over to Europe and do what your hero did in Christchurch. That'll solve nothing. Ppl like you are the reason ppl like him go postal. You Nazis make me wanna puke
@@danielsteger8456 beacause he suport nazie and hate group and he also destroying all of Unite-State allies and also tried to become a dictature When he lost.
Trump's logic: "I'm getting a ton of backlash because of the last stupid thing I've done... I should do something even dumber and more outrageous so people will forget about it!"
Yep people suck it up. Its funny how "smart" leftists actually fall for this crap and you see right wingers saying stuff like "4D chess" whenever they do fall for it.
4:16 Vox labels Ben Shapiro as an anti-trump conservative. Sure, Ben has argued over several points with Trump, as most Americans do, but he has been greatly supportive of Trump and stated he will support him in the next election.
chaosXpert I think Trump’s presidency was kind of a dud too. But honestly, i don’t think too many other Republicans could have beat Hillary, and Ben Shapiro points this out. But, foremost, I think Trump’s presidency has pointed out the left’s corruption. And will hopefully change future elections. You being a conservative, I think I can pretty comfortably say that you wouldn’t vote for any of the Democrats. And as I said before, Ben Shapiro has been critical of Trump, no doubt, but will vote for him. Maybe Ben can become a candidate in 2020
@@chaosXP3RT He's right. Ben Cuckpiro said he basically has no choice but to back Trump because he doesn't like anyone else. He's supportive but critical.
Fun 4horsemencome you seem to really don't realize the crazy side of either parties yet you seem to see only what the political party folly rather than coming to an agreement that both sides can agree upon.
4horsemencome I can only see rhetoric in this type of argument as of means to paint one side as evil while ignoring your sides religious Christian who try to dismantle civil liberties to make a quasi theorcractic democracy where one religion gets more rights than the others. See i can do the same thing although there are some republican views i will agree and some i disagree. In fact buddy their is many parties besides repub and dem including groups of different ideology like independent. i myself a person who does believe a thing to help people from giant corporations while at another making sure government doesn't become too powerful a balanced system of both.
We have a 'new normal' now, where insurrectionists are called tourists and those convicted of atrocities are called hostages. You didn't think that could happen when you wrote this!
@@YeetedOrca And that hot air balloon is actually climbing up a cliff to reach the ground level, where the rest of the civilized first world is at. Republicans are in a pit of backwards ideas.
I agree with you. Likewise, the Democratic Party then goes too far as the Republican Party does. Not everything from them, most especially the Republican Party, is not normal. What's extreme is extreme.
It is the intent of MS News Media to make you feel this way. When the 1% of the 1% owns all MS News Medias, *We don't have a Free Press* Google Search: Owner(s) of: - Fox News - the Associated Press "AP" - the Federal Reserve Bank Corporation - our Birth Certificates - the IRS - Management (Other "important need to knows') - Balfour Declaration What do all President Assassinations have in common? (US Currency) Who established the CIA? Prescott Bush What was George Bush, Sr's job just before he became VP - later POTUS? Who was Edward Bernays? Recommended Watch: "The Century of the Self" - It defines how and why Media manipulates the masses. If you are interested in understanding the what, why, and how's - these will truly give you the facts. I understand you response - the fears associated with this "Twilight Zone" experience - let me offer you a most comforting subject of absolute facts - this truly is the subject my mind Consciously goes to when I have those moments of - "that feeling in the middle of my stomach" when I trip over the "Narcissist-in-Charge" baiting the US Public for one of his "Daily Feeds" (this is why the Narcissists are referred to as "Energy Vamps") The subject that is *"absolute - truth - empowering"* Quantum Physics "Universal Law of Attraction", discovered in the 20th Century - (and it happens to be the very foundation off the Teachings of Jesus, some 2000 years prior: "Faith the size of a 'Mustard Seed'; "the body is a Temple of God"; "Ask and ye shall Receive") We manifest into reality, those subjects we place: "thoughts/feelings/energies -actions" upon. Peace truly does begin within. Avoid having negative thoughts about him - apply Thoughts toward "Your Desired State of Reality" - for yourself, those whom you love/care for - Community/State/Country/World/Universe - and do so with an Imagined State that it already exists - and your having Gratitude for the "Having it" We do affect our own, others, and the entire Collective's reality experiences. - thus, *be Conscious of your state of Thoughts, use the Higher-Mind over Ego-Mind, and know there are a growing number of People whom are doing this for the evolving of humanity to a Higher and Greater Level of Experiencing of Life - with Harmony and Wellbeing* Peace and Positive Energy Blessings, be Y O U R S ❤ 💫🌎💫
@@bethbartlett5692 oh and how do you know MSM is lying and stuff? You got that off your dogy right wing facebook friends or Fox news? The MSM is the guard dog of democracy, without it there would be no one to report a presidents bad actions. So basically the president would get away with tyranny
Be liberal: Overreact when Trump does anything Be liberal: Actually, react to Trumps idiotic ways but now no one cares because you already had the same reaction when he misspelled "covfefe"
@@dwazenjoch2302 yeah , nobody cares about Brazil , especially if they ive there , why woud they when Mericaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa is so good
I'd say that's probably true, but that's the middle ground between Democrats, who are centrists in the global context, and Republicans, who were right/far-right even before Trump, so the middle ground between them would be right of centre.
@@Hemingwaypropertyrenovation What would far far left be to you? Because social democrats (aka Bernie Sanders) are centrist in the context of global politics, and he's the most liberal politician I'm aware of. "Far far left" would be extreme communism.
@@kayleyhodson7079 youll hurt his brain. start with concepts like object permanence, addition and subtraction, reading etc, then work your way up slowly, or it comes as a shock.
@@aaronbalderas512 Low-IQ individuals tend to be more right-wing. This isn't always the case, but there appears to be a pattern: www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand
I agree with the sentiment about Megan Kelly. She just interviewed Alex Jones in a lame attempt to get ratings. He has nothing useful to add to the national discourse. He should go back to public access TV where he belongs.
I learned about the window when I was in kindergarten, I was the kid that was bad all of the time. When I was normal the teacher gave me candy... I thought it was strange that the regularly good kids had to work harder for the same sucker, but I milked that cow dry nonetheless.
Yep, my brother got a pack of hockey cards everytime he completed one of his math tutor sessions. I didn't need the math tutor - so I didn't get the hockey cards.
I am writing this comment less than 6 months before the 2024 presidential election. Things have gotten exponentially worse since this video was released.
20 January 2017: Oh my God, the White House lied about their inauguration numbers 22 February 2019: The press will be addressed shortly by Vice President David Duke and Secretary of State Ted Nugent.
MischievousMoo America avoided a shotgun to the face and then shot itself in the foot with a revolver. It’s still alive, but recovering from the trauma from the shotgun and the pain from the revolver.
before Trump the overtone window was not where left believe it was. Trump was supported by a half of the population with his "extreme right" views. If you think that a half of the country is extreme right, may be there is something wrong with you and your overtone window?
Josiah, where 18 percent comes from? On Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016 46 for Trump, 48 for Clinton If you mean that many eligible voters didn't vote at all -- who's fault is that? Let me put it differently: half of the population that cares about politics voted for Trump. If you do not bother to vote - you should not be taken into account when it goes to stuff like overtone window
Josiah - this number (18%) does not represent anything. Out of 326 mln only 215 mln were eligible to vote. Do you count the rest as Clinton supporters? Out of 215 mln only 128 mln did actually vote. Do you also count those who didn't for Clinton? If people didn't vote, you cannot know their political position, so they do not count for "overtone window"
Josiah, well, voting gives the idea of what culturally is seen as normal. I would agree that European countries are slightly more to the left on average than US (I lived for some time in UK, Germany and Belgium). But you completely ignore the rest of the world (I mean everything except Commonwealth countries, Europe and to some extent South Korea and Japan), which makes may be 80 percent of the Earth's population. On this larger scale even Trump is extreme left.
The problem is this idea cuts both ways. 10 years ago, thinking that drag queens would be reading to kids in school would have sounded ridiculous. Moving the window will eventually meet resistance and pushback.
Someone told me that Trump derangement syndrome was someone who couldn't stand just the thought of Trump and therefore became deranged. You know, like all the zombies setting things on fire and attacking conservatives just because their candidate lost. *You mean I was lied to?* Must have been a dem. They're good at that.
I’m surprised more people who are into politics never talk about how the Overton window has moved so far to the right. So what is moderate everywhere in the world is “extreme left” here. According to Donald Trump, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are “extreme left” 😂
I don't think people are objecting to the Overton Window part they are taking exception with the fact progressives have used that tactic for DECADES yet suddenly vox is worried about Trump using it for roughly a year. funny how vox was fine with it's use before but not now...
I feel like if trump supporters actually watched the whole video they'd be more angry with the fact that vox considered conservatives as abnormal lol 5:25
What they are saying is that conservative shouldn't be considered more normal than progressive due to creating a far-right balance. Normal is between conservative and liberal, maybe not even that far right.
Honestly I’ve gone numb to even the crazy stuff. Yeah, it makes me mad when I hear about Roy Moore and the Russia scandal, but I’m far from shocked by it.
Ari Goldstein Yeah I've heard about the thing with Strzok or whatever his name is. Doesn't mean he might not be guilty, especially since Mueller already has an indictment under his belt.
Angel Gray *Success for the liberals doesn’t mean governing well, it just means “gobbling up everything they say and making yourself look how they want you to while losing all respect and personality you had before”*
Lwin Lwin Oo How many republicans does it take to change a light bulb? None. They are afraid of change, even if it can bring *brightness* into the world
"Consensus should not rule science." WHAT TF DOES THAT MEAN? That sounds like it directly contradicts how the scientific community comes to a conclusion. If I'm wrong, or not quite right, someone plz enlighten me... plz.... Seriously.
In Islam, I recall (this is not confirmed btw i just remember) there is a Hadeeth that means that the general public more often than not makes mistakes and there are radicals and all so they usually can not agree and vote on the right thing
The "Overton Window" was dragged way to the right long ago. Otherwise, by the logic of that own theory, how would he have gotten elected? Such a radical person as Trump would have had to have been normalized in the eyes of the voters, he couldn't just come in from out of the blue, completely off the scale, and win. Isn't that the whole theory?
The election isn't entirely apart of the mass public. The Overton Window is exactly just that.. The mass public's opinion. America has the electoral college.. No majority vote needed, the populace vote counts for little, has only 2 major parties, has an insanely high paywall to even try to run and has an insanely high media budget. The overton window theory wouldn't effect who gets elected, Because who gets elected, isn't up to the country's opinion.
let's forget the political message in this and appreciate how we all learned about the overton window or whatever. Then, we can be mad about things again, because it's fun.
@@jungkooks_microwavephobia trump has done a lot for the black community. It's not self hate. For example, trump had the lowest black unemployment rate ever and pardoned blacks who were serving unfair prison sentences. He also met with African American leaders to discuss improving the community. Don't comment before doing your research.
@@kevdawgsports7503 Well, he did try to divert blame from white supremacists for the white supremacist attack on the people who were peacefully protesting the Unite the Right rally by claiming that there was somehow "blame on both sides". For me, that's a strong sign that he was trying to take some of the blame away from white supremacists, 'cause he knew that they're some of his most devoted followers.
It's how sociopaths works. Trump makes extremely outrageous claims. After 10,000 lies we kind of accept the craziness. Unfortunately having a businessman lead our country in a global pandemic is the worst person to have in charge
IglooDweller I just think it's funny how Europeans think that their continent is 100% better than America in every way when a lot of their cities are known to be some of the filthiest, they suffer very similar issues to us just in different countries, AND you people are struck with CONSTANT ground conflict and you people have countries like Ukraine who shoot down innocents from the sky. I'm sorry, but with all that, I don't think I would wanna live anywhere else. Even if you truly do think the countries standards have been "lowered" because let's not get it twisted, Europe has already set that bar lower than Trump could even attempt and I'm comfortable with admitting this even though I don't even support him.
This was used to sell bread machines: there was only one model that wasn't selling. Someone told: "release another more expensive model". The regular model started to sell ...
@@ricardosanchez7768 you're name sounds Hispanic and you want Trump to win? Trump only wants to run for president because he knows when he isn't he'll be thrown in jail.
It's even worse when you watched it unfold as a non-US inhabitant : to most europeans and quite a lot of (south?) americans, US liberals are... The center-right.
From my recent foray into figuring out my political ideals, and remembering this video, I’ve found I would probably be a centrist in my own country, but in America, I would be considered a left wing, even before Trump. The overton window has already moved from various other nation’s ideas of democracy and Trump’s made it worse. The cold war already made you very anti-left. From my perspective, the modern U.S. is equal to the U.S.S.R, not in military power, but from how I see the two countries, oppressive hellholes. There is a meme somewhere that fits this. A Star Wars: Episode III one. “You became the very thing you swore to destroy.” I feel it fits.
Excellent analysis that will sadly go unnoticed and ignored by the majority of the country. If everyone saw this happening perhaps we could actually get together some much needed pitch-forks and torches to bring to the elite's doors.
It's not necessarily the elites' fault in this case. The shifting perspective of "normal" is something people do automatically when presented with extreme views, politicians just know how to use it to influence us. And fighting against this effect isn't necessarily in anyone's interest either, because the effect works to shift opinion and normalize whatever an individual thinks is "good" as much as it can normalize "bad." Knowing about it could help a person resist its effects to control for their own biases, but the Overton Window, itself, isn't necessarily a universally good or bad thing.
I don't know why everyone is complaining of what is a true statement (and even positive statement for conservatives): America has been shifting right since the 80s thanks to Reaganism. The whole reason for the New Democrat Coalition, a coalition of "centrist" (read more right-leaning) democrats, was to win votes again from a larger conservative voting base. With every successive conservative President, the American political scale shifts further right and the "centrist" media personalities Carlos refers to, are a continuation of that trend.
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Vox, can you explain what your name means, please?
Yeah, the Michael Flinn conspiracy theory. You mean the one they just found damning evidence that the FBI trapped him into making a plea deal. I think the left are the conspiracy theorist.
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@G M why wouldn't multiculturalism be normal?
@G M multicultural is good look at the United States of America. They are the number 1 super power in the world and they have soo many cultures and that’s what makes it a great country. Even though it has its problems with blacks and minorities. It’s still great to have multicultural. So that humanity and any country will have diversity and not just one cultural or race!
"Mom I'm pregnant!"
"WHAT?"
"No I just failed a math test"
"Oh ok"
So basically that but about politics?
Well i tried , daddy im in the hospital, im ok but the car got some damage. Didn't help
Catterpillar Tickle a
exactly
We've been overton windowing our parents all the time I we were growing up. Needed new jeans? Ask for a new fancy jacket & negotiate down.
The pregnancy one, as powerful as it is, can only be used once before serious grounding, or a slap occurs!
Tired And Hungry then again the personal is political.
USA need more parties. This two party system is horrible to the democracy.
Those two parties have too much support, which makes people consider voting for a third party would just be a waste of a vote.
First, the U.S. is not a democracy, Second the 2 party system is closer to 1 party and our Representative Republic shouldn't have party's at all.
@@andys2347 Yeah, Repblicans are trying their best for America to be a one party system.
Yeah, does literally any other big country have that 2 party thing like us?
@@ramarblood7697 true, but also, I'd argue more people should. I heard SO many people say "I'd vote for that libertarian dude (the only other big vote in the 2016 election) but it's a wasted vote soo" that if they just all voted for that guy he would have gotten pretty far. I'm interested seeing if a 3rd party will get any farther in the 2020 election??
Americans aren't voting for who's better, but who will do less harm.
The dangers of the 2 party system. Your seeing the endgame of voting for the lesser of 2 evils over generations.
“The perfect is the enemy of the good”
That’s what we always say when someone, mostly democrats, say that they will not vote. If you keep looking for the perfect candidate, you’ll overlook the ones who might do less harm than Trump.
same here 🇧🇷
@Richard D'Angelo That man is worse then both them
That's the same thing though?
How well this has aged. Bernie sanders-“what was once considered radical 4-5 years ago is now mainstream.”
At this point the window has split in half.
@@thedemonhater7748 Centricide based
@Emilio Ramos could u give specific examples?
Bernie is still way too radical that’s why he will never be a nominee
@@DayzAhat like everyone having guns.
The US is such a mess.
KSJDbv dividing a nation like this isnt fixing it. We need someone in the middle to draw the right and left back together. America is only gowing to grow mire divided under a right or left president
KSJDbv Lol, America is a broken as ever
Who'll fix it? Loan Paul?
Europe is a mess. US is rebuilding itself thanks to Trump.
well, he is aging and therefore getting closer to death just by living, so i guess thats 1 problem he is slowly but surely fixing...
it's like that boy who goes with his father and asks "can i get a dog?" and the father "no way!"
his friend says "you're asking it wrong. let me show you"
thet go with the friend's father and he asks "can i get an elephant?" and the father replies "no way...! a dog, maybe..."
lol. I did that same thing actually!
U asked for an elephant ?
I can't even have a bunny
@@selenophile410 I asked for a fox.
I asked for a alligator
*T H E O V E R T O N W I N D O W*
*o v e r r t o n w i n d o o w w w*
*dramatic music intensifies*
why do i hear boss music
thunder rolls in the background
Anti-centrism is the way it should be but eh
This is why Bernie Sanders calling himself a Socialist is the best thing to happen to politics. The popularity of M4A happened because he first shocked everyone with that S label.
It didn't happen.
Guy McPerson 2024 we’ll have a progressive 🌹
Socialism has never once served a nation as well as good old fashioned Capitalism has.
And having Barnie Rubble Sanders in the White House would be an unmitigated disaster.
Just forget his buddy's yabba dabba doo.
@@scotthullinger9955 It depends on what the people want. You shouldn't say anything about him being president until he becomes one.
Socialism will never work
watching this in June 2020 is absolutely terrifying
Yeah, the reaction to all of these clips is meh.
If you think it’s bad in June, just wait til I tell you about this past week. You might be surprised. Probably not, but maybe
Try October...
@@illeatthat try november
@@uwuchan23 Try five days into November, Trump just called counting legally casted ballots 'fraud'
so basically its the:
"dad can i have a dog"
"no way!"
"alright then what about a goldfish"
"hmm okay"
Just realized why I stopped watching the news entirely. 🤢🤮
Vox is just as bad
felk felk No, no it isn’t, they don’t lie about EVERYTHING like the news does.
Vox is literally a news site. What
felk felk you are so correct
IloveCzechRepublic hmmmmm, yeah no
Anyone asking themselves about the 2024 election "How did this happen?!"... This is a major contributing factor in how it happened!
Never imagined the U.S dealing with a situation like this
Well, their education system is garbage so you can see why.
its strange how long they have had democrazy when they started out so kinda solid
It's been in the works since the late 1800's when the Republican party aligned itself with the "Fat Cats" of America. Since then the richest of our society have predominately been utilizing the Republican party to achieve their own personal agendas.
It's now simply come to the final stage wherein one of those Fat Cats is now in charge, and America has become an Oligarchy.
Neither did we...oh wait. I did.
Meanwhile over here in Europe where we haven't been as desensitize, all this looks like a kindergarten play. And no I am not exaggerating. That's how this looks like.
Its so far outside of the realm of reason that people have a hard time accepting news coverage from America is real sometimes.
MB Porter Thanks for illustrating my point
When you make fun of America the trumptards make fun of how many Muslims you have? That’s the best you got? Don’t worry will die sooner from Trumps ignorance than Muslims anyway.
Europe is so much better than the us in so many ways
At this late stage, the Anglo-Saxon right wing has completely lost its mind. USA - Trump, UK - Brexit, Canada - Dr Lobster, Australia - Scott "Hillsong Church" Morrison. The only English speaking country covering itself in glory at present is New Zealand where the centre-left Labour Party is totally bossing it.
Help us, Jacinda Ardern. You're our only hope
@@jeffthepotato5195 Maybe you should load up with some semi automatic rifles, go over to Europe and do what your hero did in Christchurch.
That'll solve nothing.
Ppl like you are the reason ppl like him go postal. You Nazis make me wanna puke
Trump treats the country like he treats his businesses.
And we know what happens to those.
Filed for bankruptcy?
Only like 6 of his businesses were liquidated, I think. This would be 6/100s, which is almost a 100% success rate.
Nearly all of them thrive
Caleb N. Exactly. I don't know where the "Trump's bad at business" meme came from. It's so patently false lmao.
Give me 10 successful Trump businesses.
Having conservative and trumpers as separate categories is so accurate
Honestly.
I want to support Trump, but the way we conservatives act sometimes is just...
No words.
@@Slavaisusukhrystu please dont fall for Trump!!!
@@lololololololololololololo7754 give reasons
@@danielsteger8456 beacause he suport nazie and hate group and he also destroying all of Unite-State allies and also tried to become a dictature When he lost.
Trump has gone too far, and he is just as bad as Biden, nether of them are fit to lead our government and, people into a bright future
makes sense. my "shock meter" had dramatically lowered ever since Trump became president.
Blee Blah true
Pixel Fyxe ha ha that’s pretty good.
Trump's logic: "I'm getting a ton of backlash because of the last stupid thing I've done... I should do something even dumber and more outrageous so people will forget about it!"
The worst part is it's literally working..
Adam Taylor: XD yup
Yep people suck it up. Its funny how "smart" leftists actually fall for this crap and you see right wingers saying stuff like "4D chess" whenever they do fall for it.
Its called Firehosing
Shock and Awe
Works every time
4:16 Vox labels Ben Shapiro as an anti-trump conservative. Sure, Ben has argued over several points with Trump, as most Americans do, but he has been greatly supportive of Trump and stated he will support him in the next election.
chaosXpert what do you mean source? It was a video of someone asking if he would support Trump and Ben said “yes.”
chaosXpert I also listen to his radio station. Very supportive of Trump, but also very critical.
chaosXpert I think Trump’s presidency was kind of a dud too. But honestly, i don’t think too many other Republicans could have beat Hillary, and Ben Shapiro points this out. But, foremost, I think Trump’s presidency has pointed out the left’s corruption. And will hopefully change future elections. You being a conservative, I think I can pretty comfortably say that you wouldn’t vote for any of the Democrats. And as I said before, Ben Shapiro has been critical of Trump, no doubt, but will vote for him. Maybe Ben can become a candidate in 2020
chaosXpert same, I’d support Rand Paul too
@@chaosXP3RT He's right. Ben Cuckpiro said he basically has no choice but to back Trump because he doesn't like anyone else. He's supportive but critical.
Honestly I didn't feel anything watching any of those clips so jokes on them I don't feel anything anymore
Elizabeth Hilbert 😂😂😂
Same I was just like yeah, what else is new?
Mee to😅
We’ve all just collectively gone numb. Yay
Guys can we stop having these "leftie" vs "rightie" arguments. Like construct a real point instead of saying 'leftie logic'
and 'stupid repubelican'. It isn't just relegated to one side.
Make a framework for both parties.
Fun 4horsemencome you seem to really don't realize the crazy side of either parties yet you seem to see only what the political party folly rather than coming to an agreement that both sides can agree upon.
4horsemencome I can only see rhetoric in this type of argument as of means to paint one side as evil while ignoring your sides religious Christian who try to dismantle civil liberties to make a quasi theorcractic democracy where one religion gets more rights than the others. See i can do the same thing although there are some republican views i will agree and some i disagree. In fact buddy their is many parties besides repub and dem including groups of different ideology like independent. i myself a person who does believe a thing to help people from giant corporations while at another making sure government doesn't become too powerful a balanced system of both.
Calling something liberal or conservative is a label and is no argument at all.
If you want to really make a point, then be critical, not superficial.
For everyone to remember:
"This is not normal! This is not normal! *This* *is* *not* *normal!"*
We have a 'new normal' now, where insurrectionists are called tourists and those convicted of atrocities are called hostages. You didn't think that could happen when you wrote this!
Coming back to this video 5 years later is scary. The whole Republican Party shifted even further right along with him
The Democratic Party is like someone getting on a hot air balloon while complaining that the people on the ground are getting further away
@@YeetedOrca If you look at statistical data, the republican party is actually the one going more radical.
@@YeetedOrca And that hot air balloon is actually climbing up a cliff to reach the ground level, where the rest of the civilized first world is at. Republicans are in a pit of backwards ideas.
I agree with you. Likewise, the Democratic Party then goes too far as the Republican Party does. Not everything from them, most especially the Republican Party, is not normal. What's extreme is extreme.
We sit at home and it's never normal anymore. It's never acceptable and it's never presidential. It's terrifying.
It is the intent of MS News Media to make you feel this way.
When the 1% of the 1% owns all MS News Medias, *We don't have a Free Press*
Google Search:
Owner(s) of:
- Fox News
- the Associated Press "AP"
- the Federal Reserve Bank Corporation
- our Birth Certificates
- the IRS - Management
(Other "important need to knows') - Balfour Declaration
What do all President Assassinations have in common? (US Currency)
Who established the CIA?
Prescott Bush
What was George Bush, Sr's job just before he became VP - later POTUS?
Who was Edward Bernays?
Recommended Watch:
"The Century of the Self" - It defines how and why Media manipulates the masses.
If you are interested in understanding the what, why, and how's - these will truly give you the facts.
I understand you response - the fears associated with this "Twilight Zone" experience - let me offer you a most comforting subject of absolute facts - this truly is the subject my mind Consciously goes to when I have those moments of - "that feeling in the middle of my stomach" when I trip over the "Narcissist-in-Charge" baiting the US Public for one of his "Daily Feeds" (this is why the Narcissists are referred to as "Energy Vamps")
The subject that is *"absolute - truth - empowering"*
Quantum Physics "Universal Law of Attraction", discovered in the 20th Century - (and it happens to be the very foundation off the Teachings of Jesus, some 2000 years prior: "Faith the size of a 'Mustard Seed'; "the body is a Temple of God"; "Ask and ye shall Receive")
We manifest into reality, those subjects we place: "thoughts/feelings/energies -actions" upon.
Peace truly does begin within.
Avoid having negative thoughts about him - apply Thoughts toward "Your Desired State of Reality" - for yourself, those whom you love/care for - Community/State/Country/World/Universe - and do so with an Imagined State that it already exists - and your having Gratitude for the "Having it"
We do affect our own, others, and the entire Collective's reality experiences. - thus, *be Conscious of your state of Thoughts, use the Higher-Mind over Ego-Mind, and know there are a growing number of People whom are doing this for the evolving of humanity to a Higher and Greater Level of Experiencing of Life - with Harmony and Wellbeing*
Peace and Positive Energy Blessings, be Y O U R S ❤
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@@bethbartlett5692 oh and how do you know MSM is lying and stuff? You got that off your dogy right wing facebook friends or Fox news? The MSM is the guard dog of democracy, without it there would be no one to report a presidents bad actions. So basically the president would get away with tyranny
@@floppypancakes9509 true
@@ryane1383 hahahahhahahha joe Biden woooooon hahahah
This is why John Oliver said to put a note on your refrigerator that said "this is not normal".
And your tin foil hat while your at it.
Eos John Oliver is supposed to make you laugh, not cry.
+LancynicalYT can do both
Be liberal: Overreact when Trump does anything
Be liberal: Actually, react to Trumps idiotic ways but now no one cares because you already had the same reaction when he misspelled "covfefe"
This will happen in Brazil next year: 2019.
You guessed it right...
Se considere um profeta
Nobody cares about brasil😂
@@dwazenjoch2302 yeah , nobody cares about Brazil , especially if they ive there , why woud they when Mericaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa is so good
Dwazenjoch Well, 210.15 million people do, because they live there.
The cameraman is a cool dude
BeBeVe he fired, no offense. All in time da fps is horrible.
Indeed
The camera man? For all you know there might not even be a camera guy behind that video.
its all scripted dude
Watching this in November 2024. The closing statement of “at some point, Trump won’t be President anymore” was a kicker.
This is all apart of Trump's Art of the Deal. Make the most unthinkable deal possible and negotiate backwards until acceptable.
"apart" and "a part" are literally opposites.
"Art"
You read that book?
Mr. Baskins there's reading involved? I swear I thought it was half picture book half empty pages
The problem being that he sometimes negotiates back to failure, from unthinkable to failure again.
The middle ground in america was always on the political right
Ikr
I'd say that's probably true, but that's the middle ground between Democrats, who are centrists in the global context, and Republicans, who were right/far-right even before Trump, so the middle ground between them would be right of centre.
@@alexwales8914 democrats are still on the right in global political context. center would be social democracies.
@@ictoan5966 not necessarily. In an economic context they are center, they cam be anywhere socially.
@@ictoan5966 what would you say center or center right is?
as Adolf Hitler once said
If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.
A big lie like Trump being a Russian spy?
The us at this point doesn't have a left wing we have center, right, and far right
😂😂 theres definitely a presence of far far left in the US
@@Hemingwaypropertyrenovation What would far far left be to you? Because social democrats (aka Bernie Sanders) are centrist in the context of global politics, and he's the most liberal politician I'm aware of. "Far far left" would be extreme communism.
@@kayleyhodson7079 youll hurt his brain. start with concepts like object permanence, addition and subtraction, reading etc, then work your way up slowly, or it comes as a shock.
Yeah, I can see that now.
This has been happening for ages in the states. In most of the western world the American "left wing" would be seen as right wing
It's been going on since the literal beginning of humanity.
Spoon Maybe because the rest of the Western world is dominated by leftist cancer?
Ihsahn Åkerfeldt oh yes, USA - the land of the free where you're free to die of easily treatable disease just because you happened to get laid off
I am rep, but this is dead on. Vox is nice. I have learned alot about both sides.
Ur are so not a rep vox is literly worse then cnn they so biased and one sided and this def didnt come from a rep. So dont even say u are
@@aaronbalderas512 Dont worry mate in The US you have a right to be stupid. I may not like it but it is your right.
@@aaronbalderas512 Low-IQ individuals tend to be more right-wing. This isn't always the case, but there appears to be a pattern:
www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand
@@GamePro0012 Trump isn't a conservative. He is a reactionary.
@@zulthyr1852 Well, in place of "conservative", put "right-wing". Reactionaries are far-right.
I agree with the sentiment about Megan Kelly. She just interviewed Alex Jones in a lame attempt to get ratings. He has nothing useful to add to the national discourse. He should go back to public access TV where he belongs.
KSJDbv Trump is too far LEFT? What’s your real name, Atilla?
TheGerm24 , Finally a non violent Liberal.
I'm surprised he didn't mention that Megan Kelly was the "omagerd Santa is white!" lady
Alex Jones doesn't belong on any kind of TV at all in a civilized society. The fact that you think he does means the Overton window is at work.
In a civilized society, only programs that vilify capitalism or glorify marxism are allowed.
after watching the news in 2018, I find the ideas in "Mein Kampf" is pretty liberal
After watching the news, ideas like communism seem pretty normal considering many democrats identify that way. Overton window shifted left, not right
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@@Tierneil keep telling yourself that XD
Rather ironically, you demonstrate the effect of the Overton Window perfectly with your comment.
Well Hitler was a socialist so on economic issues he was to the left of pretty much every American politician.
I can’t stop watching the guys reaction at 4:22
🤣🤣🤣
🤣
Lol
4:23
I learned about the window when I was in kindergarten, I was the kid that was bad all of the time. When I was normal the teacher gave me candy... I thought it was strange that the regularly good kids had to work harder for the same sucker, but I milked that cow dry nonetheless.
APG 99 same with dumb kids making good grades vs the average/smart kids
I noticed this as a kid too, lol
Yep, my brother got a pack of hockey cards everytime he completed one of his math tutor sessions. I didn't need the math tutor - so I didn't get the hockey cards.
7:05 He’s assuming that there will be a peaceful transition of power from Trump to the next president
I think there will be.
This in November 2020: Oh god
@TmegaK It did happen lol
@@zachellinthorpe1277 Wow you called it!
@@zachellinthorpe1277 This aged so well lol
I am writing this comment less than 6 months before the 2024 presidential election. Things have gotten exponentially worse since this video was released.
2 months to go...
It's worse
This video got recommended to me exactly when he returned from the hospital without a mask after not being completely treated for COVID
20 January 2017: Oh my God, the White House lied about their inauguration numbers
22 February 2019: The press will be addressed shortly by Vice President David Duke and Secretary of State Ted Nugent.
HAhahahaha yea ill quote you on that!
Vezu lol, I'm crying
Everyone: taking about Trump being Trump
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Me: who is the guy talking in the background 🧐
damn america..... good luck
Salman Airlangga lol
we are good since we got Trump, who him and Putin are the only good leadesr.
Election 2016 - We dodged a bullet by shooting ourselves.
Either way, America would turn out bad. America dodged a bullet and got hit by another one. And remember, America shot themselves, not us.
Interesting line. Just doesn't apply here.
NutNapalm not exactly dodging then is it
MischievousMoo
America avoided a shotgun to the face and then shot itself in the foot with a revolver. It’s still alive, but recovering from the trauma from the shotgun and the pain from the revolver.
Got to be one of the dumbest things I've read today.
So, his plan is to lower everyone standards, I don't think I can have lower standards
before Trump the overtone window was not where left believe it was. Trump was supported by a half of the population with his "extreme right" views. If you think that a half of the country is extreme right, may be there is something wrong with you and your overtone window?
Josiah, where 18 percent comes from? On Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016
46 for Trump, 48 for Clinton
If you mean that many eligible voters didn't vote at all -- who's fault is that? Let me put it differently: half of the population that cares about politics voted for Trump. If you do not bother to vote - you should not be taken into account when it goes to stuff like overtone window
Josiah - this number (18%) does not represent anything. Out of 326 mln only 215 mln were eligible to vote. Do you count the rest as Clinton supporters? Out of 215 mln only 128 mln did actually vote. Do you also count those who didn't for Clinton? If people didn't vote, you cannot know their political position, so they do not count for "overtone window"
Josiah, one can make the number even lower, if you add people that are already dead.
Josiah, well, voting gives the idea of what culturally is seen as normal.
I would agree that European countries are slightly more to the left on average than US (I lived for some time in UK, Germany and Belgium). But you completely ignore the rest of the world (I mean everything except Commonwealth countries, Europe and to some extent South Korea and Japan), which makes may be 80 percent of the Earth's population. On this larger scale even Trump is extreme left.
The problem is this idea cuts both ways. 10 years ago, thinking that drag queens would be reading to kids in school would have sounded ridiculous. Moving the window will eventually meet resistance and pushback.
That is what I did with my dad asked for a $1500 laptop when in reality I wanted a $1000 laptop and got it.
Be careful reading the comments, it lowered my energy so fast. Be aware, bye.
Orbitales Moleculares some folks gotta drop some 🌶🌶 on them
I can handle people with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Facts melt snowflakes. Meltdown more like it LOL.
Pamela Swan cringe
Someone told me that Trump derangement syndrome was someone who couldn't stand just the thought of Trump and therefore became deranged. You know, like all the zombies setting things on fire and attacking conservatives just because their candidate lost. *You mean I was lied to?* Must have been a dem. They're good at that.
Mmmm..... I like my definition more. It fits better. How else can you explain almost half the country believing the fake news on a daily basis?
So many toxic comments
TigerPunk sorry not everyone agrees with you
I’m surprised more people who are into politics never talk about how the Overton window has moved so far to the right. So what is moderate everywhere in the world is “extreme left” here. According to Donald Trump, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are “extreme left” 😂
Danny Lima hahaha you’re so right he talks about how they are radical socialists that will ruin the country 😹
@@mayayohannes8742 no
When people think that an objectively proven thing in political science isn't true. Ooh mama. Facts just aren't things anymore.
DexavioR Vox doesn't decide facts. can they be biased? Yes, but its just a fact. ask any political scientist.
I don't think people are objecting to the Overton Window part they are taking exception with the fact progressives have used that tactic for DECADES yet suddenly vox is worried about Trump using it for roughly a year.
funny how vox was fine with it's use before but not now...
Gus Mc because it wasn’t spoken about much at all then, doesn’t mean they were okay with it the entire time
The term you are looking for is special pleading.... Vox is special pleading.. That is why we hate you leftists
>objectively proven
>political science
OH BOY
I feel like if trump supporters actually watched the whole video they'd be more angry with the fact that vox considered conservatives as abnormal lol 5:25
jam exactly 😂😂😂.
What they are saying is that conservative shouldn't be considered more normal than progressive due to creating a far-right balance. Normal is between conservative and liberal, maybe not even that far right.
Really scary to see that the far right is now the middle.
And here I am, bringing people back to this video
Honestly I’ve gone numb to even the crazy stuff. Yeah, it makes me mad when I hear about Roy Moore and the Russia scandal, but I’m far from shocked by it.
Alf Stewart *sigh* Knew someone was gonna say it
Ari Goldstein Yeah I've heard about the thing with Strzok or whatever his name is. Doesn't mean he might not be guilty, especially since Mueller already has an indictment under his belt.
*Success for the republicans doesn't mean governing well, it just means "not being Trump"*
^
Angel Gray
*Success for the liberals doesn’t mean governing well, it just means “gobbling up everything they say and making yourself look how they want you to while losing all respect and personality you had before”*
Lwin Lwin Oo That ^^^
Lwin Lwin Oo How many republicans does it take to change a light bulb? None. They are afraid of change, even if it can bring *brightness* into the world
Lwin Lwin Oo What you said had no context whatsoever.
Speaking of a low bar - Trump recently received a standing ovation for drinking a glass of water with one hand.
"Consensus should not rule science." WHAT TF DOES THAT MEAN? That sounds like it directly contradicts how the scientific community comes to a conclusion. If I'm wrong, or not quite right, someone plz enlighten me... plz.... Seriously.
Yeah It's a little generic.
Public consensus should not rule science is less worse.
I think this sentence does not make consensus and thus is not scientifically accurate.
In Islam, I recall (this is not confirmed btw i just remember) there is a Hadeeth that means that the general public more often than not makes mistakes and there are radicals and all so they usually can not agree and vote on the right thing
The "Overton Window" was dragged way to the right long ago. Otherwise, by the logic of that own theory, how would he have gotten elected? Such a radical person as Trump would have had to have been normalized in the eyes of the voters, he couldn't just come in from out of the blue, completely off the scale, and win. Isn't that the whole theory?
The election isn't entirely apart of the mass public. The Overton Window is exactly just that.. The mass public's opinion.
America has the electoral college.. No majority vote needed, the populace vote counts for little, has only 2 major parties, has an insanely high paywall to even try to run and has an insanely high media budget.
The overton window theory wouldn't effect who gets elected, Because who gets elected, isn't up to the country's opinion.
let's forget the political message in this and appreciate how we all learned about the overton window or whatever. Then, we can be mad about things again, because it's fun.
It's nice to have a break from all of this.
Where was VOX when Nancy Pelosi said we can read the bill after it is passed?
Where was Fox when Trump couldn't read.
Vox is pushing the window to the left, HARD
Well, in Serbia we had this long time ago, trust me it will not get better
Milivoj Segedinac You do know that democrats in the EG were responsible for the later warcrimes that happened in Serbia?
In my country politicians are like that too and they keep getting worse every year ! So umm welcome to the club America
a black person being a trumper is the most saddest thing i've seen for today
Dude that's a racist thing to say? They can't have a certain opinion because of their skin color?
@@kevdawgsports7503 Found the karen here.
KevDawgSports no I just don’t support self-hate
@@jungkooks_microwavephobia trump has done a lot for the black community. It's not self hate. For example, trump had the lowest black unemployment rate ever and pardoned blacks who were serving unfair prison sentences. He also met with African American leaders to discuss improving the community. Don't comment before doing your research.
@@kevdawgsports7503 Well, he did try to divert blame from white supremacists for the white supremacist attack on the people who were peacefully protesting the Unite the Right rally by claiming that there was somehow "blame on both sides". For me, that's a strong sign that he was trying to take some of the blame away from white supremacists, 'cause he knew that they're some of his most devoted followers.
Thought I'd get here before the shitstorm but nope
Well actually you did! What you were talking about was just a breeze.
This was two years ago. Everything has gone out the window this year
It's how sociopaths works. Trump makes extremely outrageous claims. After 10,000 lies we kind of accept the craziness. Unfortunately having a businessman lead our country in a global pandemic is the worst person to have in charge
3:28 "Alex Jones isn't going away..." well luckily that statement didn't age well
To be fair, he got pushed out
The world's standards have been lowered.
The US* standards have been lowered
@@raymondc9513 Thank you. As a non-American, that makes me feel better. :)
IglooDweller I just think it's funny how Europeans think that their continent is 100% better than America in every way when a lot of their cities are known to be some of the filthiest, they suffer very similar issues to us just in different countries, AND you people are struck with CONSTANT ground conflict and you people have countries like Ukraine who shoot down innocents from the sky. I'm sorry, but with all that, I don't think I would wanna live anywhere else. Even if you truly do think the countries standards have been "lowered" because let's not get it twisted, Europe has already set that bar lower than Trump could even attempt and I'm comfortable with admitting this even though I don't even support him.
@@kiwikiwi2483 I've never even been to Europe.
@@kiwikiwi2483 lol
This was used to sell bread machines: there was only one model that wasn't selling. Someone told: "release another more expensive model". The regular model started to sell ...
7:02 "But at some point, Trump won't be president anymore"
Ahhhh... that thought felt good. Soon, my friends. Soon...
Not soon enough thankfully. Trump will win 2020 🙂
@@ricardosanchez7768 you're name sounds Hispanic and you want Trump to win? Trump only wants to run for president because he knows when he isn't he'll be thrown in jail.
2024 is not that far away
Kisen Liang I mean, yeah 🤷🏻♂️
The overton window split in two and went both ways.
It's even worse when you watched it unfold as a non-US inhabitant : to most europeans and quite a lot of (south?) americans, US liberals are... The center-right.
Vox should make a video saying “How Vox makes normal things look extreme”
From my recent foray into figuring out my political ideals, and remembering this video, I’ve found I would probably be a centrist in my own country, but in America, I would be considered a left wing, even before Trump. The overton window has already moved from various other nation’s ideas of democracy and Trump’s made it worse. The cold war already made you very anti-left. From my perspective, the modern U.S. is equal to the U.S.S.R, not in military power, but from how I see the two countries, oppressive hellholes. There is a meme somewhere that fits this. A Star Wars: Episode III one. “You became the very thing you swore to destroy.” I feel it fits.
The time has come...
Trump is no more.
This is unshockingly still relevant
The editing in this video is _flawless_
Love that “this is not normal” montage
Can't wait for the eventual movie about Trump's presidency and the scene where he tells the country about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise
I dont want this movie....
Excellent analysis that will sadly go unnoticed and ignored by the majority of the country. If everyone saw this happening perhaps we could actually get together some much needed pitch-forks and torches to bring to the elite's doors.
Igor Kolosha dumbass
It's not necessarily the elites' fault in this case. The shifting perspective of "normal" is something people do automatically when presented with extreme views, politicians just know how to use it to influence us. And fighting against this effect isn't necessarily in anyone's interest either, because the effect works to shift opinion and normalize whatever an individual thinks is "good" as much as it can normalize "bad." Knowing about it could help a person resist its effects to control for their own biases, but the Overton Window, itself, isn't necessarily a universally good or bad thing.
if you want a kitten start by asking for a horse
And this is how we got here in 2022.
This aged poorly
I came across this video today and realised that exactly the same thing is happening in Spain... and everywhere else I guess.
This happens in India too. You are right. The whole world is a mess.
So shifting America to the right is bad but when it shifts left the story is different
Trump literally hurled his entire body through the Overton window.
Projectile Overton Defenestration, if I've ever seen it.
This kinda nails it. Unfortunately, 40% of us in the US don't or won't hear this. They listen to State Run Media.
This is horrifying to know.
Anyone else think that its funny when the media lies and twists the truth
Everything is lost! Everything is not fi
**gun points at my head**
Everything is fine. Everything is fine.
Make more videos with this level of research! I'm glad I watched
Congratulations: you managed to make Trump's presidency look even more scary!
One year after uploading I finally watched this whole video
I don't know why everyone is complaining of what is a true statement (and even positive statement for conservatives): America has been shifting right since the 80s thanks to Reaganism. The whole reason for the New Democrat Coalition, a coalition of "centrist" (read more right-leaning) democrats, was to win votes again from a larger conservative voting base. With every successive conservative President, the American political scale shifts further right and the "centrist" media personalities Carlos refers to, are a continuation of that trend.
Maybe the Overtonwindow wandered pretty far left over the last years and this is why Trump looks so extreme?
bingo. the left are frogs in the boiling pot. calling the kettle black.
Exactly
6:26 My short-sighted grandpa when he has to fill in a gun license form.
Okay, but why does a news reporter’s opinion even matter? They’re a _news_ reporter, they report _news_