BMW iDrive 8.5 - Easy Tutorial 2024
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- The BMW i7 M70 has arrived with the brand new BMW iDrive 8.5 or Operating System 8.5. The iDrive 8.5 made its first appearance at the Shanghai Motor Show.
In this exclusive demo, we take a closer look at the iDrive 8.5 and its exciting new functionality. The i7 M70 is BMW's first vehicle to use the iDrive 8.5, and it boasts a redesigned home screen, including QuickSelect features to help you avoid submenus.
So how does it work? By arranging icons in a vertical layout on the driver's side of the screen for quick and easy access. Additionally, the menu structure has been completely rethought to make the user experience more enjoyable than ever before.
So let's take a look at the BMW iDrive 8.5!
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I like the homescreen of iDrive 8 more. It makes no sense to show the map there all the time, when you daily drive the same route.
I agree 100%. As someone who had ID7 for 3 years and now had ID8 this is a terrible idea. We already have the map all the time in the center of the dash if you want. This is a step backwards.
Yes - or boot into the Carplay/Android Auto. No one wants to use the car's OS.
Agree. It looks so messy. 😮
I don't like it. I prefer the widget style homescreen than having a map all the time.
@@SpiderBoyJohn I agree. Way way worse than for instance the Tesla one. I always have to use Waze or Maps
Here's an idea for the BMW UI designers: Why don't you remove all those pesky light switches in your house and replace them with an app? That way all you need to do to turn on the light in the bathroom in the morning is start the app, "Light", "Ground Floor", "Bathroom", "On". Sure, it will take 50 times longer and require 50 times more attention, but who cares, it's touch. And that's what we all want, isn't it?
Looking forward to seeing the idrive 9 demo 😊
Bring back buttons. No one wants buttonless cars. The technology is great but I miss the buttons on my car and it seems like everyone who has the new bmw’s say the same
Not me! I love the new technology
Totally agree, map view should be front and center and additional information at request. So good so far. Looking forward seeing more and more Android apps with the new system and the integration of the Aptoide Automotive store!
That was their thinking too. Android store comes only to iDrive 9
@@bmwblog yes, thats unfortunate for all OS 8 users.. Probably more customization will be a long shot then
IMHO it looks v busy having maps as Home Screen rather than the tiles. I trust on right hand drive cars the quick access tiles will be on the opposite side or else they are quite far away from the driver.
Also when will we get the ability to use our huge IX screens for Netflix etc when parked up.
looks smart and good question about the upgrade for current cars. 😁
8.5 in development even with 8.0 having loads of bugs
I think this is actually going backwards. Believe it or not, many don’t like having a map in their face all the time and prefer LESS information, not more.
Agreed. What a disappointing “update”
Just the buttons at the bottom and the new climate screens, would make me happy. I like the old home screen in my M50.
Agree, especially when the map/routes aren’t good and don’t use it because of it.
The current iX1's being delivered still have iDrive 8.0. Do you know from which month onwards will the new builds of iX1's will have the new headunit for iDrive 8.5 or 9.0?
UK market first soon. Then roll out in other markets. Unclear yet which production week. BMW doesn't know yet either
@@bmwblog A german BMW Blog said 8.5 has its rollout in July.
@@Robin-sf3gk which blog is that?
@@bmwblog from most markets all EV cars delivered from now on are updated to 8.5 on delivery according to my dealer (picked up today)
I got this in my i4 since its a very recent July build but I would have liked to option to switch between this 'home screen' and the legacy one with the tile structure. Sometimes when I like a map this is fine but there are moments where I would like more info on the main panel and with this new structure its only displaying one widget on the left side at the time. You can NOT customize this layout, so you cant have different split screen options like iDrive of old where you would have a smaller map and par example two rows of widgets / tiles. It's this screen, or no homescreen at all. Which I think kinda sucks. Probably will get used to this but I don't understand why BMW just doesn't give to option to pick what we like or offer more extensive customization. This is also true for the gauge display - customization here is simply subpar compared to Mercedes MBUX or Audi digital dash (no option for even a single form of analog dials par example, which would have been nice). Hope some people will eventually crack this system so we can start seeing some user build themes which offer more functionality and better graphics.
Idrive8 can't be ungraded to idrive8.5 etc unless the car has a very specifc piece fo hardware incuded in your existing i4. Without it, you're stuck on idrive8
The climate controls are so much better! Thank you BMW!!
Also we lose the larger access “buttons” down the side and instead they move to tiny ones along the bottom. Not so easy to press when driving
If I already have iDrive 8, am I able to update my car to Idrive 8.5 via remote update? Or is it only on specific models that are coming out that are new?
found the answer?
My 6GT has the 8 programmable hot keys which is super convenient to access at a touch of a button….
those are the best. BRING THOSE BACK...I had them on my 2015 650i
iDrive 5-7 were solid incremental updates. It was simple and logical. Now we have this software/hardware mess every year and ui complexity. Not even mentionning the "lite" versions and differences between classes. This will be my last BMW.
i agree, i been very happy with all up to and including 7 which i have now. not sure about 8 or 8.5, 9 with all touch screen for climate control and the tiles being laid out differently.
Will iD8.5 be able to be retrofit on 2024 M3's?
Great video thank you..would love to know if and when the 3 or 4 series will get the new head unit.
I believe the 7 series I drive 8 can be updated as it has different hardware in it compared to the 3 series. Hence why the 7 series will play video and the 3 series won't.
Again thank you.
My 2011 5 series plays video
@William ako Yes but it's I Drive 7
Will the new X1 U11 models already on the road with OS 8 get an update to OS 8.5 ?
No. They need a new head unit
@@bmwblog at 11:30 above he said that all linux devices will update to 8.5, the same we understood from earlier posts. Are you sure about existing X1 cars that will remain to 8.0 ?
Any news if old idrive 8 models will get updated to 8.5? all info seems to be conflicting, especially the 3 series lci models?
Most old iDrive 8 models won't get the upgrade
@@bmwblog that is such a strange move from BMW. are you sure about this?
I hope like hell they did t take away the widget layout!!! I like that fact that I could see multiple widgets at the same time
So much better than before, very impressive!
When will we see the I drive 9 demo?
Tomorrow
@@bmwblog Great news, thank you!
@@bmwblog thank you!do you know which cars will get I drive 9 and which 8.5? I will receive my active tourer in June. do you have any idea what version I will get? 8.5 or 9?
From what I recall, OS9. Same as the new X1s
@@bmwblog yes I remember. But it seems this may not be the case anymore
I think quik select is realy bad. What an idee to scoll up and down to select the prefered function. Any dropdown meneu is better. How long taket place to select a function, while driving and not looking on the street?
Not sure drop downs are the way to go either
It’s so confusing. There’s really no reason they couldn’t update 8.0 cars to get some of these updates. It’s not like more processing power is needed to keep the heated seats function as a permanent spot next to the temperature controls on the bottom. I had a call with a BMW engineer on it as we talked through the system and that was my biggest complaint/suggestion (that and the heated steering wheel not activating with the automatic seat heating). They reached out to me after I bought a new 2 series I guess because I was one of the first to have iDrive 8 in that model.
There is a reason. The hardware. It needs a new head unit.
iDrive 8 is Linux based. 8.5 and on will be an Android based OS with different silicon operating it
android is based on linux too, if you look close enough. it's just that the hardware is going to be what android automotive OS requires. Given my experience of android phones and how long google ships security updates for them, I'm ambivalent about the fact my iX1 will be arriving next month with the older HU (according to my BMW UK dealer, ICE X1s have the new hardware, but not the electric model). Screen looks good -though on smaller displays i hope that map doesn't get occluded too much.
As for the voicemail notice how the "drive me to a pizza" bit of the demo suggested a 24h drive. so, context awareness isn't great. All EV voice navigation systems should prioritise mapping to place names in the direction the driver is already going, and minutes to hours, not days away. just saying
@@danieljordan5572 I think 8.5 is still Linux and 9 onwards will be Android.
@@mpc007 BMW has issued out an update to some models released after a certain production month that have the updated head unit to take 8.5. some vehicles are getting it while others are not able to
It looks great, but I'd rather have the AC control in a split screen option on the right half of that huge screen and I don't need to see the map all the time. I'd rather like to finally see more individualization options for the left screen like a manually zoomable map showing upcoming speed limits like in the "sygic" app as well and the option to get different designs for the dials - I hate those bulky, L-shaped ones as they don't give me any useful info and block display space that could be used for a bigger map or any other useful info.
I hear you. I mean you can go nuts with what you can design. They probably picked some use cases.
Agreed. Its just poor that a 10 year old Volvo has more gauge display customization than a brand new BMW. Its no hardware effort at all, just programming. At least let people design themes and offer them in the Connected Drive store.. (no, not only on OS 9 which no one here will have)
Will it increase the seat heating temperature? I am comparing it to the ID7. The seats were hot and stayed hot. On my G07 lci they are non existent. Please fix this!!!!!!! Tech says they are within spec but showed with a laser temp tool they only heated up to 103° on the back and 92° on the seat bottom. If my body is 98.6° I can’t feel 92° That’s a cool seat. 😂. And I realize my skins surface isn’t 98.6° but I just want a heated seat!!!!!!!!! Other than that, I love the ID8!
Not sure, we didn't measure that feature
would love to see them demo using some of these stuff while driving, my guess is it’s suddenly not so easy
iDrive 8 is a total fail.
it's definitely easier than before. less clicks.
You should be using voice commands while driving so your eyes are on the road.
@@prosserd voice commands are a joke. They are half-baked at best. Plus, they are slow. You could easily press a button on or off before the voice command system is ready to take your command. It's very distracting and frustrating
@@prosserdlol you’re one of those ppl
Is there any information that BMW will upgrade cars with iDrive 8.0 to 8.5?
Doesn't seem like they will. Unless it's cars like the 7 Series which are already coming with a new head unit. It's all still confusing.
@@bmwblog I was asking about 7er because I have ordered it and I would like to have 8.5 insted 8.0
I see QQ music, how did you get it?
This is a nice system as long as you don't use your car for driving.
wondering about the 2024 LCI X5M which does have idrive 8, will upgrade to 8.5 be possible?
yes
@@Errost5 how confident are you of iDrive 8 being able to upgrade to 8.5 on LCI X5 2024. I am hearing it may not be
@@borgslayer its coming for the x5.
Will this version be available to update over the air on the G20 LCI?
Not likely. It's all based on production dates, head units etc....Dealer will know more or at least they can look into the details
@@bmwblog many thanks. My G20 LCI has the OS - iDrive 8! Hope they roll it out…
I'll let you know if I find out anything
@@bmwblog many thanks.
They just introduce id8 and G20 LCi has it for not even a whole year and they are introducing now 8.5 and 9. Crazy
what year and model will be upgraded to 8.5?
No older BMWS, aside from 7 Series will be upgraded.
Will the 2023 X7 get upgrade？😢
I am well diversed in Idrive 7 and Idrive 8 and use both daily. I think this new home screen on this 8.5 is a poor use of space. I like the tiles much better. Unfortunately the map in bmw OS (at least here in So Cal) can not be used without first checking Google maps and cross referencing. So to make it the main focus is meh.
And it seems that the tiles and their layout is even less configurable than before. And they are really small. New climate control screen is an improvement but the rest is not, in my opinion. Still love the iDrive 7 UI, it's designed for people who actually drive the car!
@@PeteFinn agree 100%. love idrive 7 - this new version of idrive will be tough to get used to
Agree 100% the tiles are preferred
BMW needs to hire someone (me?) to fix the icon situation. looks like a 2011 android phone
Yes it was always the 7 series that got the idrivw and a point five, idrive 6.5 no idrive 7.5 but idrive 8.5
I said go away or become focused on. Fynite 10-4?
Soooo he’s the one to be mad at…. Their cars aren’t seamless and are very difficult to have a continuous phone connection
How does the iDrive controller works with the iDrive 8.5?
Same as in iDrive 8
I just bought 2024 X5 50e with parking assistance, but since I have Android, not IPhone , I can't use all those features. When BMW is going to implement Android for that?
Not sure I understood the question. This is idrive 8.5, so not related to Android. I'm assuming you're talking about Apple CarPlay vs. Android Auto. Both should be part of idrive 8 already
@@bmwblog I though you could know when BMW is going to implement all features for Android. My question was when I could use my BMW app for parking assistance whit Adroid,so far it works ONLY with IPhone
I hope the 3 series for next year gets 8.5. I was going to get a 2023 m340 but guess I’ll wait for the 2024
U get over the air updates
@@justincabral2423 you won’t get OTA from 8 to 8.5
@@Progamer8012 yes you will
@@Errost5 you won’t update from 8 to 8.5 in any car. It has to come preinstalled already
@@Progamer8012 yes, you will. Its even officially stated by bmw, that there will be OTA updates for multiple cars for an 8 -> 8.5 upgrade.
Stop telling people stuff you obviously dont know about.
why the 3 with id 8 can't update to the id 8.5？
Cause it does not have the proper hardware
he mentioned a few times about feedback - who is giving the feed back? i would rather have the basic platform of idrive 7 vs this new display and small tiles
What do you mean?
@@bmwblog who is giving BMW feedback ? customers i assume..
@@mdino7 How do you give feedback to BMW? I have owned 3 new BMWs in the last 6 years, and BMW have never asked me for my opinion on anything, and I have still not found any way to give feedback. BMW Germany tell me to talk to BMW Norway, BMW Norway tell me to talk to my dealer. My dealer is making no attempt to conceal the fact that they have no way of passing on feedback from customers to BMW Germany.
Much better than iDrive 8. Hopefully the i4 will get this upgrade.
it will
Is this update or upgrade for every new bmw?
No
@@bmwblog so 5 serious and above only?
@@adipakiamerican4628 not necessarily. It's a bit more complicated
Do iDrive 8 cars gets updated to 8.5 or would you need to buy a new vehicle with 8.5?
Complicated, it depends on the car, but most iDrive 8 cars won't get the upgrade
@@bmwblog So weird how BMW handles new OS. A 2023 BMW M2 already being dated makes no sense
Why map is lagging?
Graphics of the climate menu on iDrive 8.5 look like an intern’s first attempt at an interface proposal. Why not display an illustration of the dash of the actual car, showing details like the wood/metal/carbon trim, etc. Just like how the menu shows the exterior of the car you’re in with the corresponding color.
Will that make a difference in functionality?
@@bmwblog True, won’t make a difference in functionality but it would make a significant difference in usability. I work in big tech and based on experience can say that successful companies are those where product departments do not develop/refine functionality in isolation but by taking into account usability through physical/virtual interfaces. As a BMW fanboy I’m simply rooting for the company I admire to adopt lessons learned in other applications of virtual interface design.
What with iX allready on the road ?
IX gets the new head unit needed with the production beginning march 2023. So no update for all the IX build before. This is official.
@@LarssonVomDach iX perfect comfortable car to drive but software full of bugs. Why no OTA update ? Bmw have a lot to learn from Tesla
@@PaulCanters It‘s a different Hardware. The Snapdragon is about twice as fast. If I remember right this is the first time a bmw gets an ota update to a newer version. Bought an X4 few years ago. Three month later the same car with the newer software and infotainment was released. So be it. I can’t see a point where any existing ix driver has a serious disadvantage. The only thing may be a better navigation with charging stations. But is it a catastrophe in OS 8? I doubt not. Facelifts and updates are happening. Nobody knows exactly when. Even Tesla is switching the hardware so that older models can’t get the same features.
@@LarssonVomDach I’m IT-specialist and software iX have a lot of problems. 4-5 times a week need to perform hard-reset becoz navigation software not starts. Long journey trip planning with charging with car navigation software is not oke. Need to use ABRP and use bmw navigation to navigate to charger for battery conditioning.
2-3 times a month os8 “forgets” iPhone and need hard reset software.
Same for CarPlay
I think you understand why users want “upgrade” for os8. (I have most recent software 11/2022.64)
@@PaulCanters yeah, like all your systems going offline in the middle of the drive. tesla=bleah!
The most important function: to turn off the screen, should fbe front and center. Still miss that.
I had that as a gesture, got tired of gestures and disabled them. Now I have it as preset button 1 in my G31. where will it be in idrive 8, I dunno...
Give us back the knobs and buttons in cars :)
CAN'T put everything on screen, I know it's jus to save money, but customer experience is terrible with everyday functions on screen!!!!!
We won't get them back. Unfortunately
@@bmwblog Based on your knowledge, would you say BMW is likely to stick to a physical button-less futur even if an industry-wide course correction was to take place? And if so is the primary driver a financial/profitability focus?
@@JohnK9315 yes. Next generation of cars until at least 2030 won't have many buttons
@@bmwblog Then I will hang on to my 2021 G30 with iDrive 7 for as long as I possibly can. The newer versions look like a huge step backwards when it comes to user friendliness.
So it's like Windows 8.1, it's not entirely new, just a update to existing one.
Yes
@@bmwblog by any chance, can the LCI models like the 3 Series can be updated to it?
Unclear. All based on head units hardware, production weeks etc...My understanding is no, unless the new 3 Series gets now shipped with new head units
I actually like how iDrive 8 works when you hit the Climate Control button, at least in X1 2023. What I found rather ugly is a lack of steering wheel heat automation. It would be so nice to measure temperature and heat the wheel automatically. Does anyone know if BMW has any program to provide feedback?
No program for feedback that I know of, but I can try to let them know next time.
This is available in iDrive 7. I have set an automation: if ambient temperature drops below set limit, then turn on steering wheel heating and seat heaters when car is preconditioned. Is this what you are asking for? Is it no longer available in iDrive 8?
I'd bet this would be codable by 3. parties
@@bmwblog Incredible. If you buy a shirt online for 10 EUR you are asked to give a review. If you buy a car for 100k EUR no one cares.
@@SS-df5cv Maybe the dealers have a way to collect info
Why force the map display? I don't care for the map, I will remove the iD8 map widget first thing when my car is delivered in a few months. Even if 90% of global customers use the map, why force the rest 10% as well? In my country any built-in car navigation is useless.
I’m not sure you will be able to. I get the impression the Home Screen always displays the map with the quick shortcuts overlays on the left ….. personally I think this was a big mistake.
@@apw2607 If it comes with iD8 I'll be able to, but if it comes with 8.5 preinstalled I'd be screwed. If I understood correctly this new layout might be specific to China, the rest would have limited customizability. Hopefully we could customize the layout.
That’s not very intuitive. The best iDrive version was the NBT Evo and iDrive 7.0. So easy to use
The climate menu was truly awful on iDrive 8 so it's good that they fixed it. But if you needed customers feedback to actually realize how crappy the UI was before you have absolutely zero business working in interface design. There is no way some high paid employee made the circle layout and then an entire team of UI experts approved it without ever realizing that it's absolutely terrible. Also while the system may be much faster BMW still hasn't figured out how to smoothen out the software. It's still so laggy and non fluid at times. How hard can it be?
Would have picked Mercedes MBUX over BMWs dash crap any day but they dont offer any EV at all in CLA / C class segment.. :(
I beg to differ, I’m going to miss the widget layout, now I’m stuck looking at the map screen and the A/C was good to me. They listen to cry babies and folded
BMW - I don't get why we keep changing these versions. Why not mimic Windows and IOS where all units get upgraded and commit to a 5 year refresh cycle for all equipment. Heck - you could even charge me for an upgrade after that point. Last selling point BMW - make a hot-swap computer in the glovebox so that when the OS when I buy the car becomes obsolete, you can sell me a $1,500 upgraded computer module with another 5 years of upgrades.
They are changing because the entire code base and platform is changing. Going to Android Automotive SDK
Stupidity cannot be fixed, unfortunately. I like your idea of hardware swap. Let the display be a display, and swap the processing unit.
They havent gotten rid of idrive 7 2023 cars are still being made with it. Already 8.5. If cars in 2023 is being made with idrive 7 then support for that operating system should remain for a couple of years. Unless it defeats the purpose to sell those cars with idrive7.
Seriously? They just moved a couple of things around and call it “a brand new operating system”. A marginal improvement, overall a huge disappointment.
Seriously? What do you expect? Instead of trolling around give us a few examples. Moving things around ist the definition of every new OS I think…
The underlying code and other things are quite different too.
Beyond the climate menu improvements which would never have being a issue to begin with if they hadn’t taken away the physical climate buttons I don’t see this as any improvement. What’s more frustrating is the lack of communication directly from BMW on this subject. Cryptic, ambiguous and poorly written press releases that show a single snapshot of the new look. Who knows what and if cars get updated. It might depend on the week the car gets built, that you are lucky to get the new head unit hardware. Contrast this with say Tesla that generally ensure all their cars get updated. What a shambles.
Yes, the roll out is not an ideal. I think it's confusing for them too with so many moving parts. I keep asking about this also
TOTAL FAIL. The 8 shortcuts are gone. Climate control buttons are gone. Heated seats and ventilated seats are now have to be turned on / off in software. Even the HEATED STEERING WHEEL BUTTON is gone! No one can dispute that having to navigate a software menu to do simple tasks is safer than a switch you can locate and turn on, without looking, by memory. The fact the common sense has been lost around this is totally mind boggling. Kool Aid drinkers will say use voice commands. But the voice commands are slow and half baked, at best. You can easily press a button and have your attention back on the road before the voice command system is even ready to take your command. Won't buy another BMW until BMW undoes iDrive 8 buttonless stupidity.
I could not agree more. I am relieved that I got a car with iDrive 7 before it was too late.
Would be good to see a comparison clip between this interface and Porsche’s new interface.
I love bmw but it seems like in the name of innovation and creativity they are just ruining the brand
I am a bmw owner but watching these cars and clips prevents me from upgrading my car cause it doesn’t seem like a proper bmw anymore.
Will try to do one
BMW need this on i4, Need this to Add DOG MODE, Someone let BMW KNOW PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Explain dog mode?
Lieber Stephan Durach. Sehr verwirrend und wenig präzise finde ich dieses Video, ich würde mir wünschen, dass Sie das In Ruhe und in Deutsch nochmal für uns Käufer des neuen 5er wiederholen. Über 8.5 ist nichts Gutes im Netz. Mit freundlichem Gruß.
At least we have a face to the vomit they put on the screen
I am sorry but this still looks SO clunky. The engineers have intelligent "reasons" in their minds that makes sense (only to them) as to where they put things where they are on these MANY menues, but for us users, most of this is FUGLY and cluttered and just outright non-intuitive. Someone should just hire a retired Apple exec to redesign this whole mess. Till the, I will be loading Carplay every. single, time.
Oh and do BMW give you a cloth to wipe away all the greasy finger prints of the screen????
Looks like trash
The new idrive system absolutely sucks!!!! If I wanted an two iPad’s glued to the dash I’d have bought a Tesla. Haptic controls are dangerous. Nothing else can be said.