Even Stronger Now..Kinda - F-14B La Royale
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Fuel: Max
Ammo: Ground Targets
Load out:
2 Aim54C
4 Aim7M
2 Aim 9L + countermeasures mixed
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + expert
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"why did i go for the F-14 and not the F-14?"
You never fail to ask us the real questions
Hi Defyn, sorry to hear about your accident, i hope you get a nice recovery! Looking forward to the new content. Veel sterkte en geluk!
3:35 "Why do i go for the F-14 instead of the F-14?"
Defyn presenting us with such difficult dillemas
I shouldve gone for the f14 in hindsight
@@DEFYNbut there's another f14
@@dalamboman6863 how about the different f 14
@@xterminator2038 I'd say the f-14 is a better choice
@@williamkwl6153no the f-14 would be better
So they modeled the engines completely incorrect. They went with the myth that the GE's are worse above mach and high altitude. Wow Gaijin..
Yep lmaoo
They are
I’m pretty sure that the 335s load outs and engines are wrong too
It wasn't a myth. TF-30s have a higher bypass which means a higher thrust at the top end, F110s still beat the older F-14A in every other area.
They went with historical reports on the engines.
Great F14 video. I hope you’re doing well, after a bike accident it can be rough.
With the aim-9L's now it's gonna be a lot better in closer ranges. But I was really hoping for the true better engines and it doesn't seem like Gajin modeled it the way I was hoping. Love the content hope you get through all your problems your going through right now
What are the ‘true’ better engines?
@@larshenrik8900 I think he means engines that are just a straight upgrade
App they did was give us a slightly better f14 with better missles then fuck us over and nerf the engines again,this thing should be one of the fastest accelerating before and after mach
The spaded f14a accelerates from 0 to mach in 53 seconds at SL, top speed at 6000m is mach 1.75 while thrust keeps climbing and climbing beyond M1.5
The spaded f14b accelerates from 0 to mach in 43.5 seconds at SL, its top speed at 6000m is mach 1.6 and thrust starts to drop off from M 1.5
This is consistent with the f14b's engines being historically faster accelerating and slower at top speed and high altitude
WTF more were yall expecting?
@@Hadgerz and in reality the downsides for the f14b's engines doesnt even matter because no one is going that fast in a reasonable time frame.
glad you are okay dumping a motorcycle is scary
Can u cover the Kurnass 2000 now that it has 6 pythons at 11.3, though it lost its sparrows?
640 Flares is crazy but it still won't do anything for the F14's engines that burn hotter than the sun. P.S. Good luck with your channel, your content is some of the funniest shit I've watched and I know it can only get better.
The MiG-29 and tornado would like to speak to you
The engines are much cooler on the 14B
Drop to like 70 throttle while dumping 3-4 flare bursts
F16 irl: you need to maintain speed to turn the best
F16 in wt: you need to slow down to turn at all xd
F-16 irl: you need to be at a SPECIFIC speed to turn best
F-16 in game: you need to be at a SPECIFIC speed to turn best
Bro the f16 is literally the best plane to dogfight in.
@@Ghost-tw7xw yup, but only at low speed because this weird aoe limiter which should not be that strong, only g limiter. If you only flew dcs f16 :P which is heavier block 50. Speed should be everything in f16. It should never go below 380kn (700kph). Below that it starts to be sluggish and not faster that 500kn (926kph) in dogfight, but it should not transform into starfighter above that xD
@@larshenrik8900 No the F-16 just doesnt bleed speed in war thunder because it lacks AoA and it pulls less than 7.8G's at max speed with weapons load.
That is a HORRIBLY innacurate flight model that War Thunder has because it literally performs *worse* than if it had a 9G limiter.
its stupid that the 7M in game is identical to the 7F. they should implement the later block (circa 1987) of the 7M to show an improvement, especially since gaijin gave russia the 27ER which is a contemporary to the AMRAAMS.
a later block 7M would have significantly improved rear aspect tracking and ground clutter rejection (you can no longer hide from it by flying super low) which would provide some much needed capability against the MiG29.
You’re personally my favorite war thunder content creator and I can’t wait to see more videos coming out soon!
Don’t worry guys it’s just abridge to the f-18
Pretty sure the F-14B can outrate the F-16A, not the C block 25's but the A block 20's we have in game right now. You have to go full wing extension with full flaps but with the upgraded engines on the B it's possible to win the rate fight. And the F-14B should be able to outrate the Mig-29. Just stay out of the 1-circle with the Mig. Could be wrong though; depends on how they modeled the F-14B in War Thunder.
Well, according to EM diagrams the F-14A on 50% internal fuel does ~15.5deg/s sustained at 5000 ft altitude, the F14B does 16.1 deg/s (both with 4 Sparrows and 4 Aim-9), and the F-16A (block 10) does just over 19 deg/s at 5k ft on 50% fuel + 2 Aim-9P3.
In game the F14s can outrate the F16s if using SB controls + elevator trim if you ride the wing rip G load at ~850km/h, but in practice in an actual match its just not happening.
@@_YellovvJacket_ I'd be interested in testing it out. Maybe I didn't word it correctly but I'm not trying to say it's guaranteed or easy to do. I'm saying it's possible. Especially since maintaining an optimal turn rate in the F-16A is pretty difficult in War Thunder.
I just love the chat at 4:25.
Video out already didn't the patch release a few hours ago?
He probably got test drive
They got free GE from Gaijin to buy their way up.
Wanna see what spit flyer has to say about it considering he adores the f14A
Man i always wanted to bust some russians with my new IR guided radar missile aim-9f
The missile from gtav. Can be countered by chaff or flares and is really slow.
“TWS is bugged because of you keep lock they don’t get warning for it.” That’s actually not a bug. Firing a fox 3 (missile has its own radar) in TWS is supposed to mask the lock as just being seen. When the missile goes “pitbull” or in switches to its own radar for terminal guidance, the warning should play. Works with phoenix missiles and AMRAAMs in real life.
However, if you meant that for them RWR is clean, yeah that’s probably a bug. Should at least ping with direction of search radar.
Edit: someone told me that the bug is that the TWS lock never goes pitbull and therefore will slam into someone’s face without warning
The bug is that if you keep the TWS lock all the way to impact the Phoenix just never goes pitbull, it just guides intot he target trough datalink without ever turning its own radar on.
@@_YellovvJacket_ ah, that makes sense. Thanks
Defyn sounds just like Jengar 😮
Two things they could do for TT to have me use my F14A and F16A
- Have a barebones mode with guns and basic IR missiles only.
- have the BR dependent on loadout
Thanks for putting those Phoenixes on wing pylons when you run 2...
Got the F-14B finally, halfway stock I'm bullying any jet that comes my way besides the new Chinese jet.
neat video homie
Hey man, job market is pretty rough at the moment globally. I would only quit if you have something lined up. Sorry about your accident. I ride too; they always say it's not if, its when.
I work in the medical sector
Its very easy for me to get another job so i am not too worried about that.
Don't quit your job you will regret it
was waiting for this
Defyn, Could you do a mig29 vs F14b dogfight like you did with the f16 and mig29. i feel like it would help alot, especially in min fuel 1v1's.
thanks alot
Brother i hope you are okay after your motorcycle accident and i genuinely hope for you the best ❤
The F14 Aim 54 spam is bonkers rn
btw how do you go into a lower stage afterburner
You should consider streaming I think, I feel like people including myself would find it useful watching you live
insane video of our best dutch alfa warthunder male!
ive watched so many videos of you that youtube recommends already watched vids of u lmao
špešli :D
Man be using sector PPI radar and ain't using TWS
In real life the F-14B was better or the same as the F-14A. But Gaijin tries to do balance I guess?
👍
AIM-9Fs...
Why do you kill those who bomb bases you know the pain you experienced 😢
I'm sorry that happened to you, Defyn - May your recovery be swift and smooth
In DCS F14B got slower max speed than F14A too
Yeah much older, lower bypass TF30's are fondly remembered by veterans for being actually really powerful down low even in after GE engines were out. GE engines, being higher bypass, newer tech, were much less fuel hungry up top. For the post war, insurgency bombing F14 this was perfect as it allowed for much longer legs.
@@master4098 the funny thing is that all the F14 variants were in service when they all retired. The F14A,B ,and the D. Which I don’t recall that occurring with any other US jet fighters ever. Every variant was useful for different tasks
@@ICECAPPEDSKY
I remember reading somewhere that all the A models were retired in 2004.
@@sargesacker2599 many F14’s were in reserves when the official F14 family of aircraft were retired completely in 2006. It is likely that many F14A’s were “retired” by 04 but I’ve only read of the official mass retiring of the aircraft in 06. You definitely could be correct though I just haven’t seen it.
@@master4098 I thought the reason they were replaced was because the first iteration of them was infamous for compressor stalls
I'm quite excited for more content. I recently started playing air rb and it's not easy, but your guides and videos are helping me a lot. Thanks!
Most of your exp come from playing battles mate,but you can learn much more and increase your learning rate watching a lot of videos,you just need to be patient at all
4:54 least toxic War Thunder game chat
The last part of the chat reminded me of “No dick! *vine boom* No balls! *vine boom* “
Shits on top tier while incorporating recognition of LGBTQ+ Pride Month
Absolute mad lad
Carry 4x AIM-9L's with the countermeasures pods, and you'll have 640x plus the internal 60x countermeasures, giving you a total of 700x Countermeasures, 350x if you take mixed, 350x flares, 350x chaff, and then take two sparrow's and two phoenix's.
I remember being scared of this plane. Yeah its scary but im not as scared now
The f16 is way scarier lol
Probably the most beautiful plane in the game rn
I don't know, the AJS 37 looks pretty good
Nah its cool but ugly especially with the wings fully deployed
Fw190 solos
Mirages 2000s are the best, specially the buffed D
P-26 my beloved
Thinking the F-16 can out turn the F-14b lol. Not a chance in hell. He pulls air break, you pull it. If you use manual wing sweep the fight isnt even close because the F-16 flight model is so broken and neutered. He has to slow down to 550kph to turn which immediately gets him killed by someone else even if he manages to kill you. How much Gold lions does Gaij give you to keep fluffing up the F-16? No one thinks its good lol. Russian bias killed it on dev server before it was even released. Trash ass flight model.
Alright bet
Get well soon Defyn! I hope you recover fully!
"Gets located by stans"
@@rivwell_21 bro stalking me
8:43
Breeding room?
Either something is wrong here or his accent just messed him up
Yt captions say breathinh room
People ignore the aim54 because of the AI SPAA that just randomly locks everyone so youre always getting rwr no matter what
I dont know how radar or warnings are supposed to work in WT but in reality, if you kept the enemy locked until the missile hit they don't get a warning because the missile didnt go pitbull and used the planes tracking so warnings dont go off other than an enemy plane is tracking you because there is no active radar on the missile unless you break lock.
I think the tomcat is a larger threat to the mig 29 than the f-16 is tbh. Sure the mig is better in a dogfight, but whats that good for if you never merge?
The engines might be a little slower but at least on the dev server they were noticeably more fuel efficient than the F14A. F14A would burn through fuel in stage 3 after burner. F14-B also runs a few hundred of a degrees F cooler which isnt huge but helps for sure.
WTF happened to the Vulcan gun noise...
I also think the F14A will have higher success rate of landing hits with the 54-A just because the F14A runs into more wallet warriors in the Mig-23 and F4S. You can normally aim for newer players are you will see them flying straight at you across the middle of the battle field from the start where as the more experienced players dip to the side off the rip.
Came back to this video to confirm if the F-14b feels different now. It totally does. Aim7m won't track half the shots in this video right now I feel like.
9:37 I am not sure that that is a bug, I might not be right but TWS lock won't give you the RWR warning itself rather the missile's radar will when it goes pitbull ( it locks you with its own radar), if I'm wrong feel free to correct me...
from what i know you're right, they would still get an RWR ping for *aircraft that way has radar on you* but because the missile is using the aircraft radar the missile is undetectable from RWR until its pitbull.
that is how TWS works, you don't hard lock someone so they don't get a RWR warning from the plane's radar. They do get one from the missile itself when it goes pitbull (the phase where the missile starts using it's own radar)
That is true, but what the bug is is that the Phoenix if guided by TWS the entire time until impact will never go pitbull, meaning it will not use its own radar, and just slam into the target fully guided by the TWS that gives no RWR warning.
@@_YellovvJacket_ Ah so he meant that, well yeah i kind of expected that to happen to the fox-3's once they are added to the game
3:35 "Why do I go for the F-14 and not the F-14?"
Hoping one day we get the different rocket motors on this.
Wish you luck with all the problems you are going through. Hope your choices come out very successful :) (love the content)
get better soon DEFYN! ❤
i'm glad you are doing better.
the random double kill with 54s gives maximum neuron activation
Damn I didn't know you had an accident on a bike
Get better bro
7:05 who's drilling the wall there cuh?
Past tense of "smite" is "smote". Past participle is "smitten". "I smote him." "He was smitten." English is very weird.
Smont
Glad your okay defyn! Love your content!
It sucks how quickly this plane was made utterly useless and mediocre I wish gijin could adjust the game some with smaller teams or stricter br uptiers. I shouldn't have to fight su27 or f15s or aim 9ms or r73s period in an 11.3 jet imo
The hidden benefits of the f14b that aren’t modeled in the game is that they aren’t as prone to compressor stalls. The f14a in heavy turns would compressor stall causing your turning ability to be completely trash where the f14b was designed in part to limit compressor stalling. This is an issue on a lot of Russian aircraft as well and the mirages. Would be cool if it was modeled in game because that would mean someone couldn’t just rely on holding the s key to turn better they would have to moderate their turns. It would make a lot of the mirages even worst than they are however, but that’s because they are just bad planes irl compared to other aircraft in a situation like what air rb puts you in. Also the flaps on the f14b are less prone to getting stuck in the down position during hard turns.
God i hate the pheonix, it is a missile you can just dodge, but if you aren't in a vehicle that can do that without losing any speed you are better off just making them crash into ground, which will still hit you because it has like 3 tonnes of explosives in the warhead
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@@williewilson2250 My problem is i cant see them, so i cant notch without knowing
@@pyrotechnicalbirdman5356 ✨ C O N T R A I L S ✨
@@williewilson2250 and lose all the momentum yeah? Just making them crash and chasing the F14s which dropped 6 phoenixes and went to rearm is preferable than losing speed and time because I was the one they targeted
@@pomelo9840 you can get all the back, you can't get your aircraft back in the same match
Like for the good old 7.0 Gameplay F-80 or P-80 was my shit war thunder was gun back then it was about maneuvers
Wait the update is out already? Damn defyn doesnt waste that partnership at all.
defyn is time to remake the Kfir C7 video.
Already on it
The gun sound is so bad. I didn't like it too much before but now it has a sharp plastic sort of noise. Same deal with the afterburners. They weren't the best before but now they are worse.
DEFYN can you do a video about your graphic settings? It looks really good
7:06 I noticed this new sound in general lee’s video too did they change the godawful compressed air through a fidget spinners noise for the Vulcan?
Should've just stuck with the direct hit one but nope
@@williewilson2250 I liked it back when it had bass in the original noise, then it sounded stupid when they took that out, now it sounds more like the 30mm gunpod
@@spectre0969 ahh the one that literally sounded like a laser? Yeah, I wish they made the dynamics of that one better so it wasn't so quiet
10.3 peak fun for me
quiting ur job,man are you sure, also hope you get full recovered with the bike crash and all
I still want the F14, but I think I won't like to play it. Idk how to Radar after 4 Tutorials
Ayyye, I was the 1000th like😋 Idk why but I just find that so satisfying haha.
my theory is the RWR is annoying always beeping and people mute it
I think they changed all the jets flight models. I played F8e today. Not gonna lie it's kinda become slower.(Might not true)
Ya no doubt top tier is dog shit these days for sure when it was 9.0 them were the Dayz 👍
Thanks for the fast vid/upload, hope you're doing well.
I feel you on top tier dogfights, larger team sizes especially have made it so you can't really get a good dogfight in unless it's the end of the game and there's like two people left.
Glad youre doing okay ive only found the channel recently and have gotten leagues better heading your advice
Does anyone know if skins for the f14b will work on the f14a and vise versa
Is this planes missles complete shit compared to the mig-29?
10/10 f14😍
Congrats on making the decision to go full-time. Hope to see some other games too
2:00 trepkas?!
can you make a tier list summer sale in next weel?sale is near
I’m just going to stick with the F14a because it still has the same sparrows in performance, decent IR’s which I suspect the F14a is getting 9L’s eventually anyway, and higher top speed + similar dogfight performance. The F14B having 9L’s and good acceleration/dogfight statistics is great but not even remotely worth the 420,000rp base requirement and horrific modification research.
Probably won’t get aim9l but sure
@@djdestiny3151 I mean it should because it never even used the AIM-9H or the missiles worse than it
Same, eventually it will be unlocked and maybe played, but there is no rush.
If that was the case the f4e would get them and many other planes would get missiles there supposed to get
They stated why they don’t give past airframes advanced aams smin1080 would usually say they don’t because it would result in a br increase and more changes
Will you be making a video on the new Viggen?
How do you cycle through target locks, like you did at the beginning? Like when you're locked onto one target and want to select another? Great video, keep up the good work!
alt+t is the default binding
@@caleb5708 What's the name of that action? I'm on console, sorry
Can U do a video on what your thinking when U fly Ive watched the p51c10 video so many times and try to copy some of the stuff from it but I still just keep dying and cant get people off my 6
8:28 Ah! *Leonardo DiCaprio pointing meme*
@10:31 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh no, is the motorcycle allright?
what the fuck with the new vulcan sound lol
I still dont understand why they havent given the F-14 its tanks yet smh