The F-16C Viper Has Entered The Battlefield
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Fuel: Max tank + droptank
Ammo: air targets
Missiles: 2x aim7M 4x AIM-9M
Countermeasures: Mixed
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + expert
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I like how he acknowledges that helping your team doesn't help anyone but him and we wonder why the game is so sweaty sometimes
Because 9 times out of 10, your team mates are absolutely braindead.
competitive games cannot be realistic yet grindy like this without causing team play to be very unrealistic
There's not much consequence for not playing as a team, neither is there a reward for doing so. That 2 F-16 scenario in the video showed that defyn and the other guy played it strategically together but tactically defyn secured the kill, even though the other guy helped. If gaijin added some kinda proximity support reward or something besides kill assist, I think teamplay would increase, even if it's only a little.
Would be nice if we at least got teamplay awards like we do in squad but with random teammates, maybe this would encourage a bit of teamplay instead of killstealing
@@thepruh1151that's how it used to be.
DEFYN: "Welcome to air superiority channel."
also DEFYN: *sigh*😡 "... even the BV238."
Cant wait for 16v16 matches with all these new missiles truly amazing
Imo 8v8 would be a sweet spot for the 12.0+ BR's
Cant wait for 16v16 with SPAAMRAAMs
@@taxfraud853 can't wait for 16v16 with meteor
32 planes with an avg of 6 missiles is 192 missiles.
@@ryhs0 someone watches TH-cam I see
And so the grind begins…
The Grind never ended.
@@valrond😂
@@RealCheesyyWT😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂so funniiiii hahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Begun, the Grind War has
@@somaticapollo6025so what’s the point of this comment, you like a professional douchebag or something?
Out here getting shitty with a dude that wasn’t even talking to you, it’s like arguing with someone who doesn’t exist.
Not enough, reddit says I need AIM-9X!!!
AIM-120D!!! Barak II Python V!!!
We need aim-260!!!!!
we should add the f22 at 12.7 BR!!!!!!!!
We do
IRIS-T at 10.3 please gajioobles please 😭 i need it so bad!!
Man i miss when half the people knew how to defend against sparrows and when everyone climbed to spaces
Back when the aim7E was the top dog radar missile lol
"The AIM-7-M is not a good missile right now." Proceeds to go 2 for 2 with the AIM-7-M in the same match.
its nowhere near as good as a hmd r27r especially with the f14b-s dogshit radar setup
Sometimes you can probably go 2 for 2 with R-3S/9B because you came across two stalled out people/bombers which are practically a guaranteed kill. That doesn’t necessarily mean that missile is amazing.
Defyn was able to go 2 for 2 with it because he used them at opportune targets that couldn’t dodge them. And you will not always find targets such as these in every battle.
As Defyn said, rn SARH missiles have somewhat limited use because a lot of people hug the deck
The missiles itself are good
Its just that with everyone mowing the lawn they arent very effective most games
@@DEFYNtherefore it is interesting to see, when we'll get missiles, that have no issues with low altitudes due to multipathing
Shooting a Missile witout smoke looks like throwing a dart
TWS will be very important when Aim120s come to game
TWS is awesome in Sim.
@@saltysteel3996TWS is not different in sim that the PD🤔
When AMRAAMS show up it’s literally just going to be everyone climbing, launching all their missiles, 180 back to base, do it again.
@@RedFail1-1so literally the same gameplay loop as it’s been for over a year
@@skytron22 Only f14s do that right now and it's the most annoying playstyle of all.
I put the playback speed at 0.5 for that last gun kill and outro and holy crap did Defyn sound funny at that speed. Goes from funny, dry, sarcastic, unenthused Brit sounding to just outright depressed lmao.
Im pretty sure he is Dutch
@@cbasssalazar8927 He is Dutch. I have absolutely no idea how someone could think that's what a British accent sounds like.
@@samitcouldbe1681 Im an Asian in the Philippines, I'm not sure about the difference from a British accent and a Dutch accent. The same way Westerners think the accents of Asians sound like Chinese or Indian.
These Top tier gunfights look so sick! And its so cool to see how maneuverable these planes are; makes me think of UFOs
I appreciate the videos you do so much, Warthunder is a hobby of mine, and really compared to some hobbys it is relatively cheap! But I really appreciate the information you put out as it has helped me to transition to jets because I was really starting to lose interest. Its fun again, and thats why I play it. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Your gameplay and commentary is ASMR.
finally my F-4EJ Phantom II will become playable.
First update ive actually care about because i can actually see a change that was made to effect me
can't wait for the he-115 video
You can also currently run 5x aim9M's and 1x aim7
We need Decompression
Maybe video topic on how that could work easily?
Easily? Make Tiers the matchmaker. That literally solves the problem. Not as easy but what would still solve it? 15.0 BR and spread everything out.
@@RedFail1-1 wouldn’t even have to go to 15.0
Just 13.7
The 16c, smt and the Israeli 16 at 13.7
The 14b, 16a and adf and normal Mig 29 at 13.3, f-14a at 13.0
And trickle everything down
Sure, games would be a bit more boring at top tier, as you fight the same 4 planes all the time
But at least F-4E’s and Mig-23’s would have a chance in hell to actually have a fair fight
Top tier needs more planes from other countries before it becomes truely fun, but that’s on gaijin
Rank based match makers wouldn’t really work either, as there are massive discrepancies with ranks and BR’s
Talking 4.7 P-47’s could end up facing 6.3 and 6.7 planes that see better P-47’s as a free kill as it is
Rank would just make the issue worse
Decompression would help immensely
I was one plane away from jets and now they go and rearrange the whole tree, I have to wait to update to see if all the rank 4 planes that were moved to rank 3 that I grinded will be compensated in the update lmao.
hey after you cover all of the new stuff, i think you should play the Lightning F.6 ^^
1st rule of warfare: If you find yourself in a fair fight, you fucked up!
That shit just looks like a damn mess WAY to many players in a match
Still waiting for F2A for Japan pain peko
Why should Japan get that?
@major_kukri2430 cause Japan suffers xD
But on a more serious note cause it's a real plane that Japan had and was developed vs what Japan currently has in the tech tree.
Perhapse in the future when they introduce the Block E/F variants with AESA radar we'll see the F2A, it's kind in an awkward spot where it was being produced in between the C/D variants and the E/F ones.
In addition it's performance is about the same as the F-16 C, F2A's top speed and thrust-to-weight is lower but the wing loading is much higher, and it was built to use the Aim9 and Aim7 so you wouldn't have to give it active radar missiles.
@@aaronho1914 lmao. Quick correction. I thought you were talking about the Brewster F2A. I now realize you're talking about the Mitsubishi F-2A. My mistake.
omg, this was madness!
It's rare to see someone who isn't greedy with kills and actually tries to set you up for a kill instead of trying to get it themselves and dying. I try to bait for my team, but that's probably because I don't need any SL and I main America with everything except the F-16C unlocked so I don't need the RP either. I try my best to thank the teammates who help if I've got the time for it.
I know you didn't mention it because you don't play it, but this thing is an absolute menace in GRB, probably the best CAS plane in the game right now. Full RWR for detecting SAMs (Mig29 can't pick up some top tier SAMs), fast, no missile indicator means people don't see your aim 9m launch, gets Paveways and AGM65Ds. Its become so prevalent that US teams just devolve into half the team jumping into CAS 3 minutes into the match.
Get this man to 100k.
Bring Back Air RB Enduring Confrontation! Would be perfect for Top Tier
what we need is less clusterfucks and more realistic jet battles, you don't send 16 jets to a front, as much 8.
@@kingghidorah8106....which is something EC would fix. lol
@@_ace_defective_ the furballs are still going to happen
because of the massive lobbies.
@@kingghidorah8106 EC has multiple runways and multiple different objectives, all spread out. One of the big issues right now is that even with the larger maps, everyone takes off from one runway and is funneled to the center of the map. Spreading runways and objectives out helps with that.
Although a decrease in the size of lobbies would probably help too.
@@kingghidorah8106we need 12-16 in massive maps where you can respawn and have basses in the middle of the map to rearm to hit ground targets
As someone who hates the top br missile spam brain cancer, this was therapeutic
I can’t see anymore,the fog is every match
It's worth noting that the F-16C block 50 is the latest version of the aircraft in service with the USAF.
Block 70/72?
@tomislavmulc651 it's an export only model.
The F-16V/Block 70/72 is not Export only. It is most definitely used quite a lot by the US.
@tungsten6474 You're thinking of the USAF aircraft that were upgraded with the AN/APG-83 SABR AESA radar. The actual block 70/72 has only received export orders to date. Bahrain was the launch customer. "Following lengthy evaluations, the USAF selected the AN/APG-83 SABR over the competing AN/APG-84 RACR on June 17, 2017, as part of an urgent upgrade to 72 F-16s stationed at nine US Air National Guard (ANG) bases in the US. This was the result of a US Northern Command Joint Emergent Operational Need (JEON) for a radar upgrade for the ANG’s ‘Pre-Block’ F-16 Block 30/32s employed in the Homeland Defense mission. The ability to counter cruise missile threats against the continental US was the primary justification.
The first SABR installation for a frontline USAF F-16 unit was completed in January 2020, on an F-16C Block 30 of the District of Columbia ANG’s 113th Wing at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland. Other units equipped included the Oklahoma ANG at Tulsa, and the South Dakota ANG at Joe Foss Field in Sioux Falls. It was found that it took only a day and a half to swap in a new AN/APG-83 on an F-16." "The USAF F-16C/D fleet can be further divided into two - the so-called ‘Pre-Block’ aircraft (230 Blocks 25, 30 and 32 examples) and the ‘Post Block’ F-16s (Blocks 40, 42, 50 and 52). The USAF is currently retiring some of its ‘Pre-Block’ aircraft (including 47 airframes in FY22), but is upgrading and modernizing the ‘Post-Block’ fleet for service into the late 2040s. Some 651 ‘Post-Block’ F-16s have already been brought to a common standard under the $1bn Common Configuration Implementation Program (CCIP), which ran from 2000 until 2010 and brought with it updated cockpit displays, new mission computers and data links." Link to the article this is from: www.key.aero/article/f-16-block-7072-all-you-need-know-about-most-advanced-viper-date
@@roberts9095 I'm pretty sure 600+ block 40s and over 300 block 50s have been upgraded to block 70/72 versions with Slovakia receiving 70 block 70 F-16s
Is AIM-9M still as difficult to flare as it was on the dev? I can't decide between researching F-16C and MiG-29SMT(better flare resistance wins))))
I'd still it still retains most of its power, being that it's very hard to flare when you notice it too late and against people who don't understand how its IRCCM works. Against those who do know how it works, it's a bit weaker (still strong tho).
it is actually flareable in side and front aspect unlike on Dev where you just couldn't, but the main killer is if you miss the launch diamond. with other missiles you might realise you've got an incoming shot thanks to the trail off launch. 9M doesnt have that.
@@firestarteronyoutube5542technically missing the diamond is a killer for EVERY IR missile / just a missile
Doesn't matter if it's smokeless motor like Aim-9M or diesel powered engine
After it stops burning there is no diamond anyway and also no smoke
Soo... what's the point?
@@kajmak64bit76 no but there is in theory a chance you could see the launch trail if the diamond has just gone
with the 9M you dont have that
its even worse in sim too
@@firestarteronyoutube5542 yeah i know about sim... and also Ground RB... there is no missile warning even in Ground RB lol
Ah yes another f16 just with big boi missiles! Woo hoo! Totally unique!
Same story with the SMT tbh
You want a F22 or what
That’s just how things are unless you want a massive jump to Gen 5.
@@carlosniggelson420I just want F-15, idk why gaijin added the literal most recent F-16 (the the US purchased) rather than giving us an early F-15
@Iden_in_the_Rain That would be the F-16V, no clue what you're talking about.
Good I wish I could play top tier like this. If only
I just want the f15 already😢😢
Hopefully next update
US mains will get their second poster boy after F-14, US mains will believe themselves invincible, US mains gonna get slammed by Su-27, US mains gonna go complain on forums about Russian Bias. Mark my words.
commentery is elite man
What speed does this thing reach with all 6 missiles on, at sea level? I was thoroughly disappoint with how slow the F-15A is when loaded, it's slower than the Kfir and the MiG-23...
Did the color balance/brightness change in this update? Everything seems darker yet overexposed for me
f16c just has BIGGER wopens and more!! bullets
I've got hooked on your gameplays, hell sometimes I put you in the background just like a radio.
I know your channel is ARB only, but as a returning viewer and an expat of NL, I demand (yes demand) a Ground RB presentation of some of the planes once a while. WHY and how dare he demand, you would ask? Simply i dont wanna watch other youtubers. I know Cas is OP in GRB, but you said that as an example this F-16C has a good kit, please show it to us.
The things I would do for a 1v1 game mode 🥵
A great day to play 11.0
how do i play the f16c if i have only the f4c and cant research rank 7 yet cuz i need to get 20 planes
The looming spectre of the AMRAAM and AIM-9X is just over the horizon
The Russians will get a Flying Saucer in their tech tree by the time the AIM 9x shows up.
@@InterstellarTacoThey already do, it's just a ground vehicle. Object 279 is definitely a UFO though
Lmao ok
Damn that last game must have been intense to play. Such a nice win.
Soo intense, he just sat there watched the team die then tried to act like a 🤡 "hero"
Reinstalled game > Lost all keybinds......cant even lock with radar missles. i have no idea what to do. i want to fly agian... help me alsjeblieft!
The fact that there isn’t a thunderbirds skin is outrageous
Thought the Thunderbirds flew F-18s?
@@kendellmoore8367 Blue Angels fly the F/A-18, not Thunderbirds. Blue Angels are Navy, so they fly Navy aircraft (F/A-18). Thunderbirds are Air Force, thus fly Air Force aircraft (F-16).
F16s on their way to not stop my harrier gr3 at 12.0 (I fear no man)
Nice
0:27 Ey ma, I'm on TV!
Same!
Could you try the MB5 please? Maybe i can learn a trick or two from you^^
looks the same.. my neurons have not been activated
Enjoy these first days because in around a week every top tier match will be full of F16Cs
facts
sorry for scratching your f16 at 16:31 hehe
wow, dude 0:26 clouds are amazing
I just got on warthunder after the update and yesterday I was one plane away from rank 5 now I'm 3 planes away
but ur post rank V grind is gonna be so much better
Don't worry this update was genuinely awesome for grinding from low ranks.
They should make the hmd able to control the targeting pod
Doesn’t quite work that way irl so it wouldn’t make sense in the game. You can designate a point for the pod to look at using HMCS but you can’t make it look wherever you look.
Nice camo! Bored of top tier endless grind.
What is the top speed at altitude in mach
This game becomes brighter and brighter every update
Yeah. I'm not sure where some people get that idea from that War Thunder looks beautiful.
To my eyes it looks ugly as hell. Then again, I'd say War Thunder looked best back when it had the old old clouds and water actually looked like it had waves, instead from that weird gell it formed since.
(Also the quality of all models from vehicles to maps, was a lot more uniform then, compared to now)
So probably before update 1.53, november 2015😅
@@martijn9568 Old clouds looked wierd, i recomend you use Polinom tonemapping and bring down the c slider, game needs a graphics overhaul for sure
I mean you can just turn off the new LUT/tonemap in the PostFX settings
@@IK4MS yes, but I have to make the game look nice, should look good by default
@@martijn9568 for real, this game looks like PS2 graphics with some 4k models sprinkled here and there. Only upside is anyone can run it.
I swear every video of top tier i watch just makes me want to stop grinding after rank 5😂😂
Uhuh so you've never played top tier in your entire life and your opinion is irrelevant anyway 😂😂
Hes just saying it doesn't look fun to him.
Don't be an asshat
@@DEFYN I wasn't even gonna entertain it, I thought what I meant was obvious 😂
180 degree turn on the deck at 10g and it only loses 50 kmh
as is tradition
Omg yes I always hated how F-16 doesn't have TWS!
Missile thunder...
How can you see who's locking you on RWR? Is there a setting to turn it on because none of my jets that get RWR show what's locking me?
It depends on the plane
Damn.
Old Meta: Basic RWR, High altitude BVR spam
New Meta: Advanced RWR, Rita/Betty, Low altitude AIM-9M/R-73 spam
Where do we buy your decal ?
i love you
what is your graphics setting cuz mine are at max and my game doesnt look nearly as good
In the launcher you can download ultra high resolution versions of planes and tanks but it is almost 100 gb so do so at your own risk
@@TheOreoOverlord alr ty
I have some requests. How about the bottom two Ki-43?
Maybe, il see
Have you seen how buggy the SMT is in the test flight? It fires out rockets instead of flares. 😂
There's no way bro
I knew with how long the update was taking and the multiple updates to the Dev Server yesterday that they were struggling. They bit off way more than they could chew and they are fumbling around trying to make everything work.
@@RedFail1-1 yh ain’t surprised tbh, plus I don’t really mind as it’s expected
It's so over
still don't know why they added the F-16C and MiG-29 SMT over the F-15A, F/A-18A and SU-27
How the heck do you change fuel amount after rtb???
J out/leave the aircraft after rearm/repair and you go back to the spawn screen where you can alter your fuel/loadout
11:38 how to rearm and change loudout on airfield when landing ?
You need to land, repair, rearm and refuel. When your plane in "ideal" state waiting on a runway you can hold j for 3 secs and instead of outright dying you will be returned to the starting screen of the match. There you can choose again which loadout you want to bring and everything else(flares, fuel, etc.).
It doesnt work in tank rb tho.
How do you change your fuel mid game?
You can J out after repairing
Damn I live for the dogfights so, how is it compared to the ADF though and not the AJ?
I think if you're using the Dogfight radar mode those aim 9Ms will be lethal in a dogfight.
Defyn
Aim-9m seems like overkill. They have had the best missile since the aim-9ls addition, except until maybe last patch with the python? Now this, I don't know.
Ah but you see Russia isn't allowed to have anything without a counter because of the amount of crying that will result in the forums whilst we have left the 9L unchecked this entire time. It just seems that when NATO gets something powerful that's fine but when Russia does people come out of the woodwork screaming Russian bias.(I play britain)
@@yaksparrow2493not at all how it works,lets go back to 1.87 supersonics,f100 wasnt better in anyway towards the mig19,then they added the f4c and mig21F,we all know no matter how good you are 60 rounds isnt shit at all,but with the SMT and MF they gave yall a chance to have some fun,we flew our f4c’s and didnt bitch about flares,when the f4E came in it was the best top teir ever got,flares barely worker,you had to actually dodge a missile,and the f4e offered tou that radar with aim7s but the mig21 smt and mf gave you the better climb rate and close range missiles as well as better dogfighter,so when they added the Mig23M it was nothing game changing but added somthing for you russian mains,but no gijian had to give yall the mig23MLD,a plane where even pewdipie could get a 5 kill game in ig,everyone could easily get 3-5 kill games in it and its win rate was fucking broken,they gave us what yall called a counter as the f4J but it was dogshit trash,russian mains owned topteir for 6 months striaght the only reason gijian gave us the f14A and no counter to it was because of topgun and a sales point,but we all know they added mixed battles just so wed fight other f14s and get third partied by a MLD,so when they finally gave yall the mig29 they have just given us broken flight model f16s and f14s missing engine thrust specs and radar specs,
@@yaksparrow2493Exactly. I play Britian too, top tier air is awful but nobody notices, they are worried about thier F-16 (it pulls 0.00001 G Less than it should)
by best missile since do you mean IR missiles? because the Python-3 was the best IR missile before the R-73, since the 9L's nerf it has only really good flare resistance in rear aspect which goes for: R-73, Python-3, Magic 2, and PL-8. not really unique.
@@lazaroreyes3675 Yes, but also the Phoenix was the best BVR missile for ages. The the R-73 gets flared pretty easily?
The F16C is ok, but i find the new buff to the ADF makes that thing a complete menace now.
Whats the buff?
@@cabraham230 The ADF can pull much harder than it used to. It isn't limited to 9Gs anymore.
@@InterstellarTacoIts like that for every F-16
Barak can pull 16 Gs at mach 1.2+
@juantacodiez4559 yes but the lighter Block 15s can sustain it for much longer. You can really feel the lighter airframe in the early models
XP-50 video maybe? I'm too dumb to work out how to play it
Its planned
QUESTION: Since the update the AIM7Ms on my F-16A ADF won't lock on until the plane is under 10km, even though the missile prior to the update could lock on at 19km no problem. Anyone else having that problem? I noticed this on assault mode
try pd/ACM
@@bobdole6768 I did. Still nothing until it's under 10km
Ye it's bugged. The mig29 used to have the same problem last patch. Only could lock people if u are taking off or tried like 100 times
bolle!!
Man I liked missile thunder but idk anymore. Think it’s time for a game mode with no missiles and just guns. People thought top tier was over when R60s was added now look. Don’t have to even be out of base lmao
no barak video? :C
where is defyn from
Should’ve gone for the f-14
From my experience the f14b is broken,breaks lock easier than an f16,the aim7Ms literally do not work,ive shot at players flying straight at low altitude but not on the deck and they always miss,no i do not fire 1.30 km from target,i fire anywhere from 7 to 3.50 km
@@lamborgatti-4783 whooosh
That red wing, you dont happen to take inspiration from Pixy do you?
I didnt even know who pixy was untill everyone asked me this lmao
@DEFYN The fact it wasn't builds onto your legend not gonna lie.
Doesn’t this have TWS?
My hero ❤
Idiot
Finally they deleted this fucking AoA limiter. Now this is the jet I've been dreaming of when I heard f16 is coming to war thunder.
Technically the limiter is still there. They just put it into the least restrictive mode. The other solution they had was to nerf everything else to be more representative of how it actually could turn historically.
it's not deleted, only moved up to 11g
@@bigmemer4398 you can safely go into the merge with miggers now. So I'm pleased with that. It does not feel like an absolute brick anymore
Yooo
I’ll prove you wrong DEFYN.
I’m going to personally sweat my ass off and try as hard as I can to be the best F-16C dog fighter I can.
I’ll prove to myself and everyone (but mostly myself) that the F-16C can still dogfight with the best out there.
I said worse than the A
It still claps 95% of the raster
@@DEFYN nope I’m just gonna ignore that. You’ve inspired me to be a try hard.
@@DEFYN if nothing else this just means I’m personally going to seek out dogfights with F-16A’s
You got it Cory
"Viper's got you in the pipe, five by five" " your journey ends hear pilot, the skies belong to me, no where to run, no where to hide"
-Viper - Titanfall 2
its bullshit that they give it the danger diamond in air RB lol, defeats the whole point.
I hate how they just make so much power creep.
there needs to be power creep for the game to progress
@@jtl05 What?
@@Firewordien no power creep means nothing new comes to the game everything is getting better anything new will power creep old stuff its common sense
@@jtl05 But when the br does not advance enough is when it becomes power creep. New planes are fine as long as the br is adjusted. (Planes without fkares were able to see r73 last patch for example and now mig23mld/mla and F4J have to go against the new mig29 and F16s. ) Better planes don't cause the problem, lack of decompression does.
lmao cope we totally need the iris-t!! gaijin plss!!
Disagree that TWS doesn't add much / do much for the aircraft. TWS is much better for situation awareness, and when the AMRAAM eventually shows up, we'll be able to guide them in TWS mode.
Aim 9m is game breaker
Almost unable to flare
Even if you dodged that
You lost most of your energy,flares
Is that skill issue? How about you do it? With only 60 flares
And in sim it goes much more serious
Aim-9m's trail is almost unable to see it
Even after burned smoke are invisible it's unable to see,unable to flare it just broke whole toptier Rb,Sb both
MAWS will tell you
@@birthdwt8859 Only some helicopters currently have MAWS that work for IR missiles, RWR can not detect IR missiles.
Was this a russian missile... Everybody would go ape shit about the russian bais. But its a US missile so every content creator try to justify it. An all the other just sheep after them.
@birthdwt8859 no maws in jet you dumb ass
U can doge them whit one flare
And who says high tier can't be fun
The F-16C blk 50 is not a "Viper", it still retains the "Fighting Falcon" designation. The only F-16s which are called "Vipers" are the F-16V blk 70/72 (only recently having entered the USAF’s arsenal) and the F-16IN (in service with the Indian airforce).
So the US has two vipers? The helicopter and the plane? Its another M3 situation isnt it.
@@codygaming181 The USAF IRL does indeed have 2 aircraft code-named "Viper", the AH-1Z and the F-16V. In War Thunder, there is only one "Viper" for the US, being the AH-1Z.
And yes, it is a sinilar situation to the M3 (M3 Lee tank vs M3 75mm anti-tank gun). The US military are just bad at naming things I guess
It is a Viper. The official name might be fighting Falcon but absolutely no one actually calls it that.
@@hresvelgr7193 Unofficially it is a Viper sure, but then, this goes for every single F-16. To call the F-16C blk 50 specifically "Viper" is still wrong
@@andrew9021 It’s not lmao. Everyone calls the F-16 the Viper because Fighting Falcon is a shit name. Viper is even used officially in the "Semper Viper" award, which is awarded for excellent airmanship by F-16 pilots.