Tory MP lambasts politicians undermining trans community in powerful speech
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- During a debate on conversion therapy, Alicia Kearns tears Neale Hanvey a new one after he purposely removed the T from LGBT.
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She doesn't seem to realise that the Tories have moved on from conservatism to full on reactionary. Credit to her for standing up for what is right but she should realise that she is being held back by her party.
The Tories are pretty close to going full Adolf.
@@Mugairyuiai And the labour party are following 2 steps behind as usual. (or I guess 2 steps to the left)
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@@DemonXeron they aren't really though.
@@DemonXeron Not really though are they.
When you see people in need, you don't kick them, you help them ❤
Were they even in need before the right decided to scapegoat them for all society's ills? Didn't they just mingle in society?
If one has the time to navel gaze that hard over one's identity, one would assume one's "needs" have been comfortably met.
@@GreenManGrowing I think Clive Smith is referring to the need to stop picking on a defenceless and harmless minority...it seems to be others obsessed with "trans issues" like people who have screwed up the economy, divided the country, pillaged and looted for 14 years and are now assisting a genocide. Individuals of fluid gender have existed since forever when they was regarded as wise people, shamans, a bridge to understanding between the sexes...they have never famously been responsible for any atrocities and are not a threat to anyone. My cis-gender (horrible expression) niece who is 6'1" and wears size 9 shoes and has 2 children has been horribly abused in recent years by a**holes who swallow that crap.
The transgender community aren't in need though are they? They're getting people sacked from their jobs, they're imposing themselves on lesbians.
Never thought id say this of a tory, but what a boss
Surreal hearing a Tory speak like this in defence of trans people. Well done and thank you.
lol What a shock; a woman who is pro-Islam is also pro-genital mutilation of minors. But let's not call it 'conversion therapy', huh, quisling?
She isn't a conservative in my eyes.
@@tombblades Exactly. She's a CINO. A _real_ Conservative would be _against_ mutilating the genitalia of our confused and otherwise afflicted young people.
So no conservative ... a party that once stood for Judaeo-Christian values but hardly any longer.
The "Conservative" party was completely taken over by left wing politicians during Cameron's time as leader, and these days is far left bordering on communist. Hence Sunak droning on about the threat from "far right" extremists, and the fact that the rhyming slang chancellor has married into the Chinese Communist Party. To these commies, anyone to the right of Mao is "far right".
Shame there was only 6 MP's that bothered turning up to work that day
Sounds to me like she's in the wrong party...
I must say I am gobsmacked that a Tory mp defending the LBGT community with such passion, well done ✅
Pathetic.
@@yarpenzigrin1893why pathetic?
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@@yarpenzigrin1893why?
@@MatthewMopo Degenerates should not be defended.
It's a shame that her voting record isn't quite as impressive as the speech here. She might have delivered a pro-LGBT speech here, but her voting record is just as awful as every other Conservative in the house.
Voting record is largely meaningless - if you don't vote with your party you lose the whip. Staying with the party and fighting for something on the inside may often be a more sensible option. In many cases, all voting intention tells you - 'yep, they're in the conservative party'
@@GrenxixThat's not strictly true at all. Many politicians make a habit of voting against their party on a fair number of issues and retain the whip as most votes are not three-line whipped.
The reason many politicians vote with their party is because, generally speaking, they support those policies... that's why they are in the party to begin with.
Alicia Kearns might have better views on LGBT rights, but she is not substantively better than any of the other shits on the Conservative benches. There is a reason why she is there.
@@Grenxix well get she could always join a different party. Seems to just be a matter of your favourite colour instead of principles anyway
@@outofideas42 I think you're right here, I do think it forms a core part of some people's identity (for some reason 🤷♂️) and they then refuse to switch even when the party morphs beyond all recognition.
I am an average, cisgender woman of 64 and I back Alicia all the way. Conversion therapy destroys lives. Thank you for continuing the fight.
Thank you for you allyship. It means the world
Similar here, cis woman gen x. That kind of therapy is evil in its conception. A Matt Walsh (et al) fantasy, who I believe is the one who needs therapy.
I think you just mean woman. Cis means nothing
I agree conversion is not only barbaric it’s simply not even possible
Love and affirmation is all you need
You are as born and no drugs or surgery can convert you
@@nothing0062 Incorrect. Cis has meaning.
I am questioning my entire existence right now. I am a Scotsman, agreeing with the Tory and disgusted with the SNP member. Sometimes it's good to see a reminder that not all Tories are absolute horror show human beings. A small minority are generally good people who just lean right economically. Just wish more of them spoke up.
the libertarian wing of the Tories need to stand up or there gonna lose their party to the authoritarians completely.
He's not an SNP member. Neale Hanvey switched to the Alba Party.
Ah, makes perfect sense then. Thanks for the clarification. I can sleep a little easier now.@@vincienzo
@@rgxwrestlingmedia If you don't think views like his exist in the SNP you've got a nasty surprise in store when you google Joanna Cherry or a myriad other MPs and MSPs. Did you pay any attention at all to the recent leadership election?
If you don't think I knew what was going on and that I wasn't just making a joke about a Scotsman liking a Tory, you've got a nasty surprise in store for you when you read this comment...@@alanbeavan6229
Glad to see there are still some decent Tories left in Parliament… which means she’ll probably be ousted before the next election.
She’s my MP - I keep hoping she’ll join the Labour Party but no luck so far - she is nothing like the rest of that sorry bunch.
@@gilliankew Go tell her, please!
The tory principles are hostility, indifference and division,
with a hate of everyone and everything but money.
Why is she serving all that?
check her voting record
Her seat is in Rutland, Jesus will return and rain will fall upwards before she loses her seat.
Her constituency is being split into two at the next election. Completely by chance, of course...
Her speech was very moderate and civil given the intolerance she faced
We need passionate voices, like her's, on this subject. Strangely, her voice was silent, on Feb 7th, when the prime minister said Keir Starmer didn't know what a woman was, when the mother of a nurse trans girl was sitting in the gallery.
Never thought I’d say I like a Tory. Thank you
A liberal - left-wing Tory who clearly has taken leave of the Judaeo-Christian values the party once stood for.
Leave our kids alone!
We need more Alicia Kearnses in Parliament. (Um....first time I've ever thought that about a Tory, let alone written it in actual words for people to see. I need a drink)
fantastic to see a conservative who actually has principles and calls out these kind of dog whistle tactics to diminish and segregate the trans community. I was genuinely surprised by the level of compassion she showed, which should really tell you just how apathetic many in parliament are to the struggle of trans people in this country
The "Conservative" party aren't conservatives any more. They were completely taken over by left wing politicians during Cameron's time as leader, and these days are a far left party similar to Labour, the Lib Dems and the Greens. In fact the politicians in all 4 main parties are completely interchangeable, they're all university educated champagne socialist globalist elites who've been indoctrinated into far left/communist ideology. Our universities have been hotbeds of communist indoctrination for decades, and now the effects are really starting to show. Hence our barking mad Net Zero Green Leap Forward, and the equally insane mass migration/Kalergi plan to create Kalergi's "future race" through forced interbreeding between Europeans, Africans and Asians.
Lefties are actually quite hostile to LGBTs, so I do agree that it's good to see a politician speaking out against conversion therapy though.
All Tory MPs should lose their seat, apart from her.
Is she absolutely sure she's a tory?
her voting record would prove she has no place in another party@@samsowden
Just because of one speech defending one group? Dumb logic
She is a Tory. They are the party of hate and she continues to support them, without the guts to go independent. She is relying on Tory branding and funding to stay in power to support a party that is doing exactly what she pretends to be against.
@@vincentvangogh8092voting record doesn't mean anything, she just values the whip to remain in the party. she's definitely a conservative though (she cited fighting for personal freedoms from the state towards the beginning), just a very moderate and progressive one.
Thank you fighting for our Human Rights! 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
Oh no,no,no,no ,just check her voting record!
How Alicia Kearns voted on Social Issues #
Consistently voted against laws to promote equality and human rights
@@Del11k the whip system, shes pretty much forced as shes part of the conservatives
a conservative actually holding libertarian principles, it really is a leap year
So far has my trust and belief in politics and politiicans fallen, rhat i listen to this speech and wonder 'what's your angle?' How sad is that.
Great speech... but where the hell was she was Rishi was demeaning the trans community infront of a murderered trans teen's mother?
Whereas i wont hear anymore nonsense from the " trans" " community"
I applaud her for this statement, and I understand some people saying she should be the only Tory to be allowed to stay after an election.
However, I don't know her. My local Tory is very good when it comes to looking out for individual constituents and backing charities. However, his voting record on housing conditions, rent prices, support for the sick and disabled, etc., shows him to be a Tory, who doesn't back broader support for the citizens of the UK.
I fear, as she has her seat, she could well be little different from the rest.
Given the way electoral politics works in this country and the fact that she currently has a seat, yeah. She's undoubtedly voted for some nasty stuff. She may not like that she has, but it doesn't change that as an MP for the conservative party she has to obey the whip.
Consistently votes to reduce the rights and assistance available to migrants, voted against getting us in line with international human rights laws, voted against measures to reduce tax avoidance, voted against increasing corporation tax, vows against measures to reduce climate change.
She may be the best of a bad bunch, but she's still Tory through and through.
@@ten060 As I suspected 🤷♂
Bloody hell! Credit where it’s due!
This illustrates the problem with political parties. MP's that have wildly different views on society and people still fall under the same party name.
Well said - sadly some on the left need to have right good look at themselves - even a Tory has shown more humanity to a minority group. Trans rights are human rights.
Have you noticed it's predominantly men that are opposed to Trans rights? What fear do men have to be so vociferous?
There are unfortunately some who do need to do some reflection and realise their hypocrisy, but to say that he's on the left... ehh
Sorry I meant those in the wider 'left' movement. Nationalists are never off the left.
Yeah it's been kinda horrifying that especially with recent news that trans rights seems to be so difficult for even some progressives to back, I'm probably naive but I hope this upswell in transphobia is just a desperate last attempt before it gets crushed, but I know that's not what history shows
Touche, credit where it's due, good job Alicia
A Tory speaking sense? With compassion? Blimey. I respect her views on this subject and ask myself why is she a Tory?
No such thing as a decent Tory. She’s up to something.
Possibly and that could be differentiating herself from the anti trans leadership.
How many times is that guy gonna say LGB when she's been talking about trans erasure.
Only she is talking about Trans erasure. He is talking about conflicting rights of LGB and T people. None of who should are or are being 'erased'.
@@peatmetree774trans people haven't rights doesn't mean that gay and bi people lose rights, trans people have always been a part of our community and betraying them when they are the current target of a hate mob is disgusting
Just as T is not a digit neither is the Conservative party conservative.
That’s the first time I’ve seen a Tory stand up for Transgender people.
Then you haven't been watching.
This woman is in the wrong political party
Or maybe Rishi Sunak is? The conservatives principles she stated are clearly Tory principles, if the leader of the Tory party doesn't hold them, he's in the wrong job.
@@not_ever her version of conservatives doesn't exist anymore.
@@chrislaurenceleo Of course it does and there she is a Tory telling you it does. Allowing far-right ideology to highjack one of the countries biggest parties should be something you rail against, even if you are not a Tory, as i am not.
@@not_ever I have never been a tory and never will be. I'm old enough to remember the damage the old lot did with thatcher. This new mob of extreme far right nutters,are even worse.
Holy shit, Did I just see a tory that doesn't deride us trans folk? Who is actually fighting our corner?
Usually it's just slide snard remarks, derogatory jokes and otherwise bigoted bellendry
@@AlyceIsFreeit changed in 2018 when TERFs mobbed the consultation on the GRA reform backed by the same Nazi-leaning "newspapers" that back the Torys.
Some people have pointed out her pretty weak voting record but I'm UK politics voting records don't really mean a lot since it's so hard to vote against your party, let's just hope she can keep this up and not slink back after being pressured by the party
Wow. Well, she would never get my vote, but she certainly gets my respect on this issue. Good for her.
That’s some righteous fury. Incredible it’s coming from a Tory MP, but needed.
How is Alicia a Tory?... The only Tory I know of with a conscience, with grace and with care and concern for people without a voice.
you haven't been watching over the years
@@alanhat5252 do explain further... I'm listening.I only became aware of her recently when she grilled Camaron on the select committee.
WOW, how is she a Tory, that was brilliant.
All successful politicians have an uncanny ability to make really lengthy speeches which actually say absolutely nothing at all.
Powerful strong conservative who stands up for individual rights and freedoms
My god a Tory spoke sense
Defend vulnerable women and children please! Vote for protection of these groups first and foremost!
Protecting women and children, and passing a conversion therapy ban to protect queer people are not mutually exclusive. It is possible to have both, especially when you consider that there is some cross over in those groups.
And yet she is from a party that has crushed vulnerable people...
I dare Sunak to ask her if she knows what a woman is.
Christ, frightening that this is better than anything I’ve heard from a labour politician recently
She will probably lose the whip before to long
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Christ, I'm agreeing with a Tory...my flesh is itchy.
Wow! A decent Tory!👍
She ruined it by being a conservative.
I dont know who she is but she's fantastic
Being called out for transphobia isn't bullying. This shouldn't be a debate. She is dead right.
A Tory passionately speaking on something that doesn't involved cruelty to foreigners??
Think I need a lie down
Oh god the rage.....
She doesn't hold back as chair of the foreign affairs select committee either. On the spectrum of MPs currently in the HOP, she's one of the good ones.
Credit where its due
Credit where credit is due. She cares about people, we need more MP's on all the benches that do.
Like Putin recently said, “Do what you like, but stay away from the children.” They can’t though can they.
You mean people who suppprt conversion therapy? Then I absolutely agree
@@MetalSamantha I think President Putin meant all forms of abuse.
@@MetalSamantha Look up the experimentations of the 'Pioneer' John Money carried out at Johns Hopkins and the subsequent suicides of David and Brian Riemer.
The award winning paedophile psychologist lived a long, successful life.
@@MetalSamantha Look up the experimentations of the 'Pioneer' John Money carried out at Johns Hopkins and the subsequent suicides of David and Brian Riemer.
The award winning paedophile psychologist lived a long, successful life.
That's strange. My post about John Money keeps getting deleted.
Bloody hec, a Tory with morals, well done on you. Go to the top of the class.
" Here we see that rare creature, a caring Conservative with a moral compass" (in a David Attenborough voice). She's clearly in the wrong party. The only caveat I have is that it should not be referred to as conversion "therapy". It's torture.
I’ve never voted Tory and probably never will, but I prefer her to half the Labour Party
Royal colleges backing the bill should practically be the end of story but whatever. Medical professionals are the only people who should be making medically relevant decisions. The science is long since settled, conversion therapy is disgusting, ineffective and extremely harmful to vulnerable people. Trans people are a part of our community, and always will be. No separating of them. Fair play to her.
She's my MP and is much more open minded than her tory colleagues. I didn't vote for her but I respect her
Dont forget you need to protect everyone...that does include women
The bill here is exclusively about conversion therapy. Hardly something women benefit from, certainly not trans or other queer women who are pushed into depression and in some cases suicide because of such treatment.
And lgb. Who would be also harmed by unfettered trans ideology capturing our institutions.
Trans women having rights doesn't hurt cis women, trans people are no more likely to commit sexual assault or any other crime against women, however they are far more likely to be victims themselves
No “gender crutical” has ever truly benefitted from conversion therapy
And none of them ever will
That's what all politicians should strive for. Well done her.
Protect the most vulnerable????? Tories???!? Has she heard of poverty? She’s right on the point on which she speaks here but she’s on the wrong bench
Why is she still in the Tory party? Does she not realize what her party is?
Maybe she knows she cant join Labour cause Starmer is too right wing and will force her to say what he wants.
Another perfect reminder of how important it is to support mps and not parties.
If that's her opinion then WTF is she doing still representing the Culture war party sorry I mean Tory party.
Differentiating I would suspect.
Alicia Kearns - Rutland and Melton
Never thought I’d agree with a Tory.
lol a liberal tory, I thought they got rid of them all
You're in the wrong party. I only hope that sensible, principled Tories like this lady keep their seats because a healthy democracy needs a healthy opposition.
This MP gets it. A powerful speech to ban conversion therapy in Britain. And by a Conservstive.
A Tory with a brain and a heart.
Very good, for a Tory.
Yes she's a decent tory MP.. I'm unsure this legislation will actually do anything, as the wording is coated in a dogwhistle suggesting that people are being pressured into transitioning, which isn't the case. And so this bill essentially seeks to protect those who profit from the conversions while having the superficial tone of suggesting it stands with lgb people.. who may be concerned that the rife transphobia is undermining their previous battle for their own right, which they'd be right to be concerned by, as hate crimes are going up against the board and many are feeling increasingly unsafe to be themselves as a result. This is why we need to stand with trans people and not use the lgbt people to attack those you don't like, whether that's trans people, muslims or anyone else. We stand together and fight for everyone or we lose.
"First they came for..."
Rev. Niemöller
Yes and the Nazis came for trans people pretty early on. It's illegal to lie about this in Germany and that's exactly what a certain Labour MP did, and the investigation let her off, bc Keir Starmer sees her as so important ..@@alanhat5252
But the tories are about to become the opposition soon, so they have good chance to pretend they're not really ultra fascists while continuing to demonise the same groups
Gonna be interesting to see if she sticks with this position when either Badenoch Braverman or Patel become leader or whether she’ll fold.
All MP's are entitled to their own views and interests.
Nice to see there are some serious politicians left among the party.
wait, a tory defending LGBT rights? what loopy land have i found myself in?
They are fine with LGB because so many of them are gay...but trans? Could never admit that.
You have a very short memory.
The Tory attitude changed when TERFs mobbed the _Tory's_ 2018 GRA reform consultation backed by the very same Nazi-leaning "newspapers" that back the Torys.
Love this from Alicia
I assume she is talking about Tavistock clinic when she talks about banning conversion therapy. Am I missing something?
I would like to see the Tory Party return to more of this stance. Back when David Cameron was in government, from what I saw of his party I generally considered myself a bit of a centrist. Agreeing with parts of Tory, Labour, LibDem and Green policy. Whilst there are occasional Tories like this woman now who I would agree with in several cases. The Tory Party’s (and Labour Party’s) lean rightwards has sent me further to the left. Accomplishing the exact opposite goal of what I expect they would like.
They've remembered that division and fear are more useful weapons against us. Brexit has regressed a lot of things in this country and social attitudes gave taken the biggest hit thanks to those dog turds Farage and Johnson.
Very good speech
one day we will of to lay out a bar, because the current bar is too low to be called humanity.
what?
How did she slip through the Tory-party net?
A conservative member talking with passion about a cross-benches bill. So refreshing - I thought we had lost that. Maybe there is hope after all.
A decent Torie at last
On one issue. She still votes to cut benefits, votes to cut veteran help, votes to stop feeding kids over the school holidays.
Slow down with the decent Tory bit.
Are you sure she's a Tory MP?
A rare case when a Tory MP was right to school an Alba MP. I can't stand all this fear mongering relating to trans issues, which became particularly evident around the Gender Reform bill in Scotland, and it is atrocious that the UK government prevented it from going through.
How refreshing to hear a Torrie defend trans existence and challenge hate, we need people like her
She is my MP.Her speech was so powerful and amazing thank you so very much Alicia you get my vote 100 percent
Respect to this Tory MP for speaking up for values that matter. She is out of step with her party. She is right. Her party is wrong.
Her party has since the Referendum ' moved closer to America ' to adopt US republican fascinations.
What is she doing in the Tory party!
Jesus. I never thought I’d see a Tory like her. What an amazing woman. It’s a real shame the rest of her party have such opposite views.
I think she may be in the wrong party
Is he going to keep it in a box?
A Tory caring about the needs and safety of the vulnerable?
No wonder she’s on the back bench.
While I admire and agree with her, I wish she held the passion and protected and safe guarded more vulnerable members of society. Those on uc... many of them working poor, that can not afford to feed, let alone clothe them.
i was expecting a personal liberties arguement but i didnt expect it to be so earnest and well reasoned
i mean, if i was a trans person living in her constituency the labour rep would have to be spectacular to get my vote.
Labour has been pretty weak on trans rights with Stamar barely able to stand by it for more than 5 minutes which has lead to lots of prominent members falling ass backwards whenever asked about their position.
Impressive speech. All the more so, given the party that she is representing. I have to wonder where she stands on other political issues for her to be a member of the Tories. Something doesn’t quite add up...