JS - thank you for mentioning Blazer Brass. I would like to thank the folks at Speer for plating the entire bullet, including the base, and protecting shooters from lead exposure. I'm amazed at the number of shooters who will choose another brand of 9mm or .40 ammo simply because it's 10 cents a box cheaper. I'm fairly certain that 99% of these shooters have no idea that the garbage they are choosing has exposed lead bullet bases...which are vaporized by hot gasses during the firing process, coating their firearms, hands, and most importantly, their lungs. For less intelligent shooters, it's a case of out of sight, out of mind. Intelligent shooters will generally choose Blazer Brass practice ammo.
@@thomasbednar7475 You realize you could handle lead on a bullet your entire life and it not affect you... JUST DON'T EAT IT. You almost certainly get higher lead exposure in the water supply. The reason lead was removed from schools and such is kids were EATING paint chips.... talk to a teacher sometime you will learn alot about the craziness kids will get up to.
Manufacturing always blows my mind. It's crazy to think that someone years ago came up with a bunch of one off machines to do a specific task. So cool!
You nailed it Slywright. The engineers who designed and built the machines that produce the parts required for lots of different items we use is truely magnificent. I went to the Centre of the West in Cody, WY in 2015 , on holiday from Australia, and the most interesting thing to me in the fiream wing was those machines that produced the early Winchester's .No computer assisted programs , just just smart humans building intricate inventions. Love to you and yours.Lawrie.
It's one of the great things about the show "How It's Made", the amount of technology, and step by step processes that are required to build something mass produced, cheap, disposable, and mundane as an off brand pen with a real estate company's name & logo, .22 bullets, flexible drinking straws, everyday items all around us, etc, is fascinating. Yet many people never notice or think about it
I really appreciate what these guys do for me and the masses because this is my favorite ammunition brand. I wish CCI and Speer another 65+ years of great service.
Last thing you want to hear in the ammunitions plant..."You're Fired". Sorry could not resist. Interesting tour. It always amazes me the engineering minds it took to build these machines.
Brother, that's awesome that you got to go through the whole process. There's no one else on TH-cam that deserved such a close look. You were probably like a kid in a candy store!!
Dang man too bad I did not know you were right in my home area plinkster, could have met up with ya and showed you around, and done some shooting with ya lol, let me know the next time you are in Lewiston, Idaho lol,
More .22LR cartridges are sold every year than all other cartridges combined. 60% of all ammo sold is .22, 40% is all other calibers. Being it's the most common ammo in the world, more people have died from .22LR than any other cartridges, including military/war cartridges like 5.56 and 7.62.
I had never once had a problem with CCI, until recently I got a Phoenix arms .22lr, and like 1 in 50 of the rounds are duds. I figure it has to do with the gun because I've never had a problem, but I can't see why the gun would cause duds.
Might have a firing pin that's slightly out of spec (short) or a weak spring but it's more likely just a bad batch of ammo, try a box with a different lot # and see if you have better luck.
ive had failures with all brands . surprisingly ........i have no issues with Remington thunderbolts , or CCI products . these all run almost 100 percent in my 10/22s , Marlin 60 and M&P 15/22 and pistols .
And here I thought that the Bill of Rights and the entire U.S. Constitution guaranteed our freedom, not to mention the Army, Navy, Coast Guard, the Air Force, and the Marine Corps. Silly me.
WOW! What an operation! And I REALLY appreciate every bit of it, as I am one of the beneficiaries! Also a plug for one of my FAVORITE practical rounds where I live, CCI "Pest Control" made, I Believe in Idaho. My neighbor and I nearly worship the stuff. .22 LR #12 shot shells - about the consistency of sand. I have used it INSIDE of my barn with concrete floor to take out a snake at about 30 inches range. Obliterated the rattler's head with NO splatter back and NO damage of any kind to my truck that was barely 36 inches away. I have also taken obstinate birds inside of that same steel barn with the stuff with ZERO collateral damage. I can't even locate where the pellets hit the steel roof when I climb up and look carefully on a ladder. But one shot, from my Single Six and the bird dropped immediately. To any snowflakes that might bemoan my "cruelty": The birds will fly into the barn through the open door and I can chase them around and around with a length of plastic conduit long enough to touch the inside of the roof and they WILL NOT fly out through the fully open 10 ft X 11 ft door. I can chase them for 10 minutes or more - to the point I'm exhausted. They cannot be left in there, because when I close the door they have no way out and they crap all over every thing - including all of my wood working equipment. I do my best to keep the door closed as much as possible but they still occasionally get in. They usually can be chased out if I see them fly in and start chasing them right away. After they've been there for 5 or 10 minutes they will almost never leave.
My grandpa used to work at the CCI plant back when it was just Speer. He made bullets at first and later moved on to primers. A few years ago I saw a video of the CCI plant so I showed it to him. A lot of the machinery he used there 50 years ago was still there. Our last time out to Lewiston we wanted to get a tour but unfortunately they were closed and we had to go home before they would be back in business.
Plinkster, I love your videos, but this one is special. The compliments about the employees at CCI were obviously heartfelt. Heck, you looked like a kid in a candy factory!
Well... the million rounds or so of 22 rimfire produced in a day, at 40grn per bullet would require only 5,714 pounds of lead (there being 7000grn to the pound), so some of that is going for other ammo.
fordrac1ng81 Not that I don't believe your figure of 4 million rounds of 22 rimfire per day from CCI, but do you remember where you got that figure? The last one I remember was from a magazine writer who had visited the plant and got the number of 1 million per day from the guy who gave him the tour of the CCI plant, but that was several years ago. I have more like 4 million for ALL domestic production of 22 rimfire from the various ammo makers here (Blazer, Remington, Winchester, et al) not just CCI. If it is 4 million from CCI alone that is encouraging but I would like to see the source.
JustSomeGuy www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/01/dean-weingarten/cci-federal-to-increase-22-production-by-20-in-2016/ controversialtimes.com/news/gun-owners-rejoice-22lr-production-is-going-up-this-year/ www.outdoorhub.com/news/2016/08/03/video-22-lr-made-tour-cci-speer-factory/ Let me know if you need any more
fordrac1ng81 Hi again fordrac1ng81. Thanks for the links, though two of them were from the same source, they are no less valuable. So if Federal and CCI produce a combined total of 12 million rounds per day, and we give them a 5 day week (though they are actually supposed to be on a 24/7/365 schedule now) and then we give them a 50 week year with 2 weeks vacation (again, they are supposedly on the 24/7/365 regimen) we get about 3 billion rounds per year just from those two manufacturers which would amount to about 3000 rounds per year for each of the one hundred million gun owners or so in this country (which is also a conservative figure). There are obviously a lot of shooters who are averaging much higher consumption... more like 1000rnds per week or so if you compete or just like to shoot. Like you and most other persons who have been following this, I think the increase in the number of gun owners and shooters in general has led to this increased demand rather than hoarders, though there are some of those too I imagine. So, although there are still some shortages in various places, at least we might be coming to a time in the near future where supply is starting to catch up to demand and that's a good thing. I look forward to a time when I can walk into a sporting goods store and buy a case of 5000 rounds again at a reasonable cost. During the first year of the Obama administration, that cost was $150 for a case. I hope we can approach that again someday. Again... thanks for the links and a sane discussion.
CCI, Speer, Federal, etc are all in Lewiston, ID. Much of the equipment used to make the bullets, primers, and cartridges is also made in Lewiston by various other companies.
I'm 77 years old and I have been a Glock Guy and 9mm user my entire shooting life! In all that time, I have Never shot a .22LR hand gun until a few months ago. I decided to Purchase a .22 hand gun because of the very high price of 9mm ammo and I shoot at my LGR every week and I could not afford to keep using 9mm ammo. After doing much research on TH-cam and my Gun Forums, I decided on a Kel-Tec P17 which comes with three 3 round magazines. I have over 1000 rounds with this gun and I like it so much that I purchased another P17, in addition to A Beretta Bob Cat and a Rossi RS22 Rifle! I'm now shooting more, having more fun and saving a bunch of money! The CCI Mini Mags have worked without a Flaw in all of my .22LR Guns!
@@louwilson0906 well a shotgun is easier you need a shotgun certificate which you need to get a government approved gun safe fill out a application then interview a police officer and then your certificate gets shipped the rifle/firearms certificate is a bit harder as its may issue not shall issue though and you need to provide 2 references instead of one and once you done with that you can buy a rifle
CCI Stingers are my personal favorite 22LR ammo. Cycle great in everything and with the higher velocity they don't have as much drop at 100 yard targets
i love the quiets rounds, they are sometimes a little inconsistant, but their so quiet i can take rabbits on my dads small property without annoying the neighbours too much. they are not really any louder than the air rifle but obviously a hell of a lot more grunt, have taken many rabbits at 80+ yards. (our little aussie rabbits (european rabbit) are really a lot smaller than the big old hares your get in the states, we have the same hares as you also, but not very common, but we have thousands of little european rabbits.)
Worked as a cop on both sides of the Snake River for 6 years and saw this plant everyday. Used .38+P ammo in .38 revolvers on the Lewiston side and I used my own S&W model 686 .357 revolver in Asotin County. Great video as I never got to tour the plant.
Its probably pretty ho hum... you cross em you get shot. You'd be supprised how much lead goes through the regular UPS and Fedex systems... no real security there, its just a bullet after all. It would be kind of cool if they had American 180 rifles LOL, break in you get the BRRRRRRRRTTTT.
Awesome video. A lot more hand work than I imagined. After seeing all the care and quality, I don't mind paying a little more for their ammo. Thanks CCI and 22Plinkster for making this video.
*Danni*....... I've got 58 acres, if you ever come across .22 "seeds" (or ANY caliber for that matter) that will sprout Anything in kind... please, Please - get in touch with me here, right away!
Dalton v uhm yes it is dumbfuck, rimfire 22lr is mad so the firing pin in the gun doesnt have to hit thw center, pluss if you drop a 22 hard enough itll go off , and if it surrounded and one exploded either the heat or the bullet would cause a chain reaction , ive seen it happen right before my own fuckin eyes dont tell me thats not how it works jackass
Man, CCI must love you! I worked many years for a distributor of their's and other makers of ammo and have been given tours of several ammunition makers plants.......but never ever would they take us into where they made .22lr.................was always told it was like a state secret or something! Are there things you learned that you can't tell us or else you'd have to kill us? LOL
+22plinkster I have no doubts that it took some effort to make this a reality. Rimfire ammo is noted for its complicated manufacturing processes so it is undoubtedly not something any company wants to protect. That said, this was quite an experience to watch.
thank you for the great video and CCI for allowing you video access. I shared this educational video with our Facebook group Canadian Rimfires Classic. thanks for all you do in the industry 22plinkster.
If I had one wish for a cartrage to be made it would be a reloadable centerfire .22 LR with easily replaceable primers. I honestly am suprised it hasen't been done with the popularity and age of .22 lr. Imagine a consistant .22 lr that could be easily reloaded to exact bullet weight/size and powder weight with consistant primers giving one ragged hole accuracy. Even if it cost a bit more I would do it.
This is a great video, Thank You so much ! When I was a kid we pretty much had 2 choices Remington, or Winchester, then CCI came on the scene. My grandma bought some of these .22 shells for me for my birthday and I thought I wouldn't like them. Wow was I wrong, I have been buying them every sense then, in fact that is the only brand I will buy.
They make more then just 22 ammo there, and they get government contracts from what I've heard.. They treat their employee's well, and its actually one of the better places to work in that town.
@@rsdna9698 per round manufacturing cost for .22 is less than one cent on that scale. I know a few guys that reload in sufficient quantities that they get their price per round of .223 down to below 10 cents, and even that (one has an automated reloading table thats about 10 feet long and can make something like 12000 rounds a day) is amatuer hour compared to this. the reason ammo prices are so high comparatively is because of the amount of middlemen involved from factory to bullet shelf.
Yeah, it really surprises me how much it has gone up (you might be lucky to find t for $.07/round). Though, you have to remember that our government has forced closed (via EPA rules) the last main lead smelter in the US (in Missouri around 12 months ago or so)...meaning most of it is shipped from China/India/etc. Luckily, I bought around 20k rounds at the cheaper price and just hoping the price will come back down.
I used to work at a simulator machine shop/plant. It is amazing how many different machines can be altered for different products. Love CCI stingers. Cool video
@Common Logic Go to a real gun store, not Wal-mart. Wal-Mart restricts the purchase amount of every caliber except .22, so all the shitheads trying to make a quick buck show up at 6am the day inventory restocks and then buy it all up in one fell swoop--and then they resell it at gun shows at 5000% markup. Assholes. Pretty sad when .223 was cheaper than .22lr for a while, at least in my area.
Alright so this process leads to the next process. Alright so now it's ready for the next process. Alright so this process is finishing what the last process started
I want some of the brass left over after the punch that makes the first cuts in the cupping process. Should be cool looking speaker grills. I can imagine an inlay or top lay with overcoat that 2 would look fascinating under stage light. Peace Out.
Very cool! Hey! Did they check your pockets when you left the building? Looks like you might have gained a few pounds! ;) That was a treat for all of us...Thanks! and thanks to CCI / Speer!
Crazy awesome. A factory tour always impresses me. I look at all the machines and wonder how much this factory is worth and how many rounds have to be made just to break even.
theyre pumping them out like that.....yet i still cant find them in my local stores....havnt shot(or even hat a chance to for less than $75 a box) a lr in ~8 years
I truly love to see and understand how the products I use, are made! Well done! I worked at a soda/beer can plant for 8 years and always so interesting to go to work and make sure it was done right! 1.1 million cans per 12 hour shift, 4 days on 4 days off. So Very Cool!
The looked like a very small 22lr production line. They should make 100 pallets of 22lr a day not 1 or 2. The PROBLEM was found! demand has gone WAY up and production is still the same. Who wants to go into the ammo business?
i paid mine, too. lots of people thinks it's really cool how this stuff is made, but if they were to have to do it for a day, the thrill would quickly be gone....
I came here to try to calculate how long it will take before the shortage stops. By hopefully getting how much 22 this factory makes averaging that by how many there are in the us. Then taking about 100million people times 1000 bullets each then taking the number of bullets produced to find how long it will take for there to be some on shelves more than a day. I’ve checked everyday and nothing except my local gun shop who is trying to sell a 50p of 22lr for $25. I just want my Winchester 555 pack for $27.99 back
More automated today, then when these companies were making a profit selling rim fires for .01 and .02 cents per round, and that was back when material cost were just as high or higher then today's cost, go figure.
That's so awesome seeing all the work that goes into making 22. Ammo kind of makes me appreciate it for a change I believe CCI makes the best remfire ammo by far
Rimfires are a low profit item. The demand is here, but most mfg are not certain if it will stay this way or die down once everyone gets their stockpiles. No one wants to be the one with a warehouse of machines doing nothing due to a drop in demand. .22 is avaliable online, but at 7-10 cents per round. It will not go back to 3 cents because the issue there isn't supply but inflation and devaluing of the dollar due to wage increases. If you note, all prices are doubling in preparation of the wage increase which ironically lowers your wealth. There is a possibility if Trump settles the debt, the economy will hit a low temporarily while the market evens out, but when it recovers the dollar will be worth a lot more, there will be less taxation and we may very well see .22 (among other things) back to their original prices. And of course, more jobs and businesses here in the US meaning more opportunities for competition that could further drive the prices down.
+Dave Smith if you believe that stuff then please call me urgently. I have a great deal for you on some land in south Florida. Complete with all the water and mosquitos you could ever want!!!
I just watched my past I worked all those punchpresss when I was in my 20s and 30s and 1/2 way to my 40s Definitely brought back some memories for sure Great video
EVERYONE: “Can’t find .22 ammo anywhere. “ CCI: “Shucks, we have all ten of our employees working working a single 1960’s assembly line 5 days a week?”
Federal has the same type of plant they make the same amount of ammo all day everyday. You would be surprised or impressed , but it wouldnt fit the narrative of the ammo shortage err hoarding thats going on.
today feb 4 2021 i hit the motherload of CCI MINIMAG and standard velocity at my wal mart . after months of getting skunked i walked in to the gun counter and found 6 full sleeves of minimags and 90 boxes of standard velocity . i asked the guy if there was a limit .....he said no .....i said i want ALL OF IT .....yes im that guy . i wont re sell it , but ill damn sure shoot it and stash some .
I made tons of Bats for plating from stainless and small iron bats. Right down the street up snake river ave. Manufacturing is the heart beat of every nation.
That was so cool never thought it would be that hard to do. I was wrong cci is that best please make more for Walmart in Milton Florida no ammo at all. Great job!
The best ammo video I've seen, really enjoyed it! Thanks to all the fine folks at CCI for making a superior product, and thanks to you, 22plinkster, for sharing this... Semper Fi!
Since it is difficult, for safety or logistics, to show close ups of it process please consider creating a visual or graphic to illustrate the process.
Yeah, Like gerbils or hamsters on exercise wheels turning some fancy machinery gadgets! With the caption "This is their Trade Secret!" ROTF LMAO Either they would get a big kick out of it or get pissed about it! Any way it would be funny!
Have used CCI for years, in fact of my 3 Remington Nylon 66's, not a one has fired anything but the CCI 22LR. I recall years ago I finally had a round that did not fire. Being curious got the head off the bullet and found powder but nothing to ignite the charge. I was told back then it had to be a 1 in a quad trillion chance. Here I am now 74 and still use CCI ammo and never had another misfire or dry fire event. For those my age, you might recall mini-mag rimfires, thanks to CCI. as was Stingers the FIRST hyper-velocity 22 LR. A great company with a proud tradition and it looks like employees still proud of their work.
Please tell those fine people at CCI that there are a lot of people who appreciate them making fine 22 and Blazer Brass
WOW! I had no idea. I will not complain on cost.🤠
JS - thank you for mentioning Blazer Brass. I would like to thank the folks at Speer for plating the entire bullet, including the base, and protecting shooters from lead exposure. I'm amazed at the number of shooters who will choose another brand of 9mm or .40 ammo simply because it's 10 cents a box cheaper. I'm fairly certain that 99% of these shooters have no idea that the garbage they are choosing has exposed lead bullet bases...which are vaporized by hot gasses during the firing process, coating their firearms, hands, and most importantly, their lungs. For less intelligent shooters, it's a case of out of sight, out of mind. Intelligent shooters will generally choose Blazer Brass practice ammo.
@@thomasbednar7475 You realize you could handle lead on a bullet your entire life and it not affect you... JUST DON'T EAT IT. You almost certainly get higher lead exposure in the water supply. The reason lead was removed from schools and such is kids were EATING paint chips.... talk to a teacher sometime you will learn alot about the craziness kids will get up to.
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Manufacturing always blows my mind. It's crazy to think that someone years ago came up with a bunch of one off machines to do a specific task. So cool!
You nailed it Slywright. The engineers who designed and built the machines that produce the parts required for lots of different items we use is truely magnificent. I went to the Centre of the West in Cody, WY in 2015 , on holiday from Australia, and the most interesting thing to me in the fiream wing was those machines that produced the early Winchester's .No computer assisted programs , just just smart humans building intricate inventions. Love to you and yours.Lawrie.
It's one of the great things about the show "How It's Made", the amount of technology, and step by step processes that are required to build something mass produced, cheap, disposable, and mundane as an off brand pen with a real estate company's name & logo, .22 bullets, flexible drinking straws, everyday items all around us, etc, is fascinating. Yet many people never notice or think about it
How many bullets do you folks think that they make in a day?
Industrialization ruined society. Ask uncle Ted, he'll tell you all about it.
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I would love to have that pallet at the end of this vid.
Challenge: You can have it with a caviot, you must move the entire pallet by hand out the door.
split it with you
I really appreciate what these guys do for me and the masses because this is my favorite ammunition brand. I wish CCI and Speer another 65+ years of great service.
Last thing you want to hear in the ammunitions plant..."You're Fired". Sorry could not resist. Interesting tour. It always amazes me the engineering minds it took to build these machines.
22plinkster's version of "How It's Made" - I really enjoyed learning how .22 is made at CCI. Thanks for producing and sharing!
Brother, that's awesome that you got to go through the whole process. There's no one else on TH-cam that deserved such a close look. You were probably like a kid in a candy store!!
Yes, I was!!!!
Спасибо тебе большое ! Это было очень интересно увидеть, давно об это мечтал !!!
Dang man too bad I did not know you were right in my home area plinkster, could have met up with ya and showed you around, and done some shooting with ya lol, let me know the next time you are in Lewiston, Idaho lol,
What is the weight of one of those lead blocks at 7:01?
JackedLobster
Kind of unbelievable their so cheap.
It is more work than I thought.
I dont think there cheap but it is a lot of work
tanner martin it depends on your budget but compared to other rounds I’m pretty sure .22 is the cheapest.
There's a lot less material involved than is involved with most centerfire cartridges, that's why it's cheaper.
they're = they are
there = over there
their = belonging to them
(Not trying to be a dick, just saying)
@@pissywilly it's youtube their all idiots
The .22 one of greatest calibers ever made. Love me my plinkers.
More .22LR cartridges are sold every year than all other cartridges combined. 60% of all ammo sold is .22, 40% is all other calibers. Being it's the most common ammo in the world, more people have died from .22LR than any other cartridges, including military/war cartridges like 5.56 and 7.62.
I've had one problem with CCI after shooting close to 100,000 rounds I had one which the c was upside-down.
Yeah, their quality control has problems, over the years I've seen a dozen or so with the upside down c.
A mix up in the sorting dept. Those rounds were meant for export to the Australian market.
I imagine you're probably joking, but that's possible if whoever made the header tooling got the view backwards.
I had never once had a problem with CCI, until recently I got a Phoenix arms .22lr, and like 1 in 50 of the rounds are duds. I figure it has to do with the gun because I've never had a problem, but I can't see why the gun would cause duds.
Might have a firing pin that's slightly out of spec (short) or a weak spring but it's more likely just a bad batch of ammo, try a box with a different lot # and see if you have better luck.
CCI is the only 22LR ammo I have shot that has never had a single failure. CCI Mini Mag is my favorite & it works great!
ive had failures with all brands . surprisingly ........i have no issues with Remington thunderbolts , or CCI products . these all run almost 100 percent in my 10/22s , Marlin 60 and M&P 15/22 and pistols .
Love me my CCI Stingers 🐝
The quiet segment hollow point jams every round in my gun.
All I see is FREEDOM being produced!!
Freedom Seeds 👍
And here I thought that the Bill of Rights and the entire U.S. Constitution guaranteed our freedom, not to mention the Army, Navy, Coast Guard, the Air Force, and the Marine Corps. Silly me.
Ron LHeureux what are you going on about? They are freedom makers too.
@@ronlheureux7623 "...guaranteed our freedom..."
Uh, have you NOT been listening to the liberals???
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WOW! What an operation! And I REALLY appreciate every bit of it, as I am one of the beneficiaries! Also a plug for one of my FAVORITE practical rounds where I live, CCI "Pest Control" made, I Believe in Idaho. My neighbor and I nearly worship the stuff. .22 LR #12 shot shells - about the consistency of sand. I have used it INSIDE of my barn with concrete floor to take out a snake at about 30 inches range. Obliterated the rattler's head with NO splatter back and NO damage of any kind to my truck that was barely 36 inches away. I have also taken obstinate birds inside of that same steel barn with the stuff with ZERO collateral damage. I can't even locate where the pellets hit the steel roof when I climb up and look carefully on a ladder. But one shot, from my Single Six and the bird dropped immediately. To any snowflakes that might bemoan my "cruelty": The birds will fly into the barn through the open door and I can chase them around and around with a length of plastic conduit long enough to touch the inside of the roof and they WILL NOT fly out through the fully open 10 ft X 11 ft door. I can chase them for 10 minutes or more - to the point I'm exhausted. They cannot be left in there, because when I close the door they have no way out and they crap all over every thing - including all of my wood working equipment. I do my best to keep the door closed as much as possible but they still occasionally get in. They usually can be chased out if I see them fly in and start chasing them right away. After they've been there for 5 or 10 minutes they will almost never leave.
My grandpa used to work at the CCI plant back when it was just Speer. He made bullets at first and later moved on to primers. A few years ago I saw a video of the CCI plant so I showed it to him. A lot of the machinery he used there 50 years ago was still there. Our last time out to Lewiston we wanted to get a tour but unfortunately they were closed and we had to go home before they would be back in business.
I really like the cci stingers. They are the most accurate 22 ammo I have ever shot.
How far out do you usually shoot? I was wondering about their accuracy when they drop out of supersonic.
then you havent shot accurate 22LR. Try Tenex or something if you want actual accuracy
Stingers are made for their explosive power/speed. They are not target rounds.
Plinkster, I love your videos, but this one is special. The compliments about the employees at CCI were obviously heartfelt. Heck, you looked like a kid in a candy factory!
But don't eat the candy, kids!
@@TheSkammander poppin candy
The amount of lead for ONE DAY blew my mind.
Well... the million rounds or so of 22 rimfire produced in a day, at 40grn per bullet would require only 5,714 pounds of lead (there being 7000grn to the pound), so some of that is going for other ammo.
try 4 million rounds per day
fordrac1ng81 Not that I don't believe your figure of 4 million rounds of 22 rimfire per day from CCI, but do you remember where you got that figure? The last one I remember was from a magazine writer who had visited the plant and got the number of 1 million per day from the guy who gave him the tour of the CCI plant, but that was several years ago. I have more like 4 million for ALL domestic production of 22 rimfire from the various ammo makers here (Blazer, Remington, Winchester, et al) not just CCI. If it is 4 million from CCI alone that is encouraging but I would like to see the source.
JustSomeGuy
www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/01/dean-weingarten/cci-federal-to-increase-22-production-by-20-in-2016/
controversialtimes.com/news/gun-owners-rejoice-22lr-production-is-going-up-this-year/
www.outdoorhub.com/news/2016/08/03/video-22-lr-made-tour-cci-speer-factory/
Let me know if you need any more
fordrac1ng81 Hi again fordrac1ng81. Thanks for the links, though two of them were from the same source, they are no less valuable. So if Federal and CCI produce a combined total of 12 million rounds per day, and we give them a 5 day week (though they are actually supposed to be on a 24/7/365 schedule now) and then we give them a 50 week year with 2 weeks vacation (again, they are supposedly on the 24/7/365 regimen) we get about 3 billion rounds per year just from those two manufacturers which would amount to about 3000 rounds per year for each of the one hundred million gun owners or so in this country (which is also a conservative figure). There are obviously a lot of shooters who are averaging much higher consumption... more like 1000rnds per week or so if you compete or just like to shoot. Like you and most other persons who have been following this, I think the increase in the number of gun owners and shooters in general has led to this increased demand rather than hoarders, though there are some of those too I imagine. So, although there are still some shortages in various places, at least we might be coming to a time in the near future where supply is starting to catch up to demand and that's a good thing. I look forward to a time when I can walk into a sporting goods store and buy a case of 5000 rounds again at a reasonable cost. During the first year of the Obama administration, that cost was $150 for a case. I hope we can approach that again someday. Again... thanks for the links and a sane discussion.
"Greatest employees in the industry!" That's high praise Bill!
Where can I purchase this reloading kit?
At wallmart
CCI, Speer, Federal, etc are all in Lewiston, ID. Much of the equipment used to make the bullets, primers, and cartridges is also made in Lewiston by various other companies.
your better off casting your brass into something else
Best buy
Make your own.
LOL the guy's thinking at 4:50 "dont say explosion, dont say explosion, dont say explosion"
Yeah, I caught that, too.
*if you say explosion, you get stanger'd*
In my industry we use the term "rapid expansion of gasses". :-)
What's that? The baked bean & cabbage industry?
LOL!
I'm 77 years old and I have been a Glock Guy and 9mm user my entire shooting life! In all that time, I have Never shot a .22LR hand gun until a few months ago. I decided to Purchase a .22 hand gun because of the very high price of 9mm ammo and I shoot at my LGR every week and I could not afford to keep using 9mm ammo. After doing much research on TH-cam and my Gun Forums, I decided on a Kel-Tec P17 which comes with three 3 round magazines. I have over 1000 rounds with this gun and I like it so much that I purchased another P17, in addition to A Beretta Bob Cat and a Rossi RS22 Rifle! I'm now shooting more, having more fun and saving a bunch of money! The CCI Mini Mags have worked without a Flaw in all of my .22LR Guns!
CCI Tour round factory absolutely fantastic, i am a farmer Central UK and have used this ammunition for years. H
how hard is it in the UK to own a 22 rifle and/or shotgun?
@@louwilson0906 well a shotgun is easier you need a shotgun certificate which you need to get a government approved gun safe fill out a application then interview a police officer and then your certificate gets shipped the rifle/firearms certificate is a bit harder as its may issue not shall issue though and you need to provide 2 references instead of one and once you done with that you can buy a rifle
CCI Stingers are my personal favorite 22LR ammo. Cycle great in everything and with the higher velocity they don't have as much drop at 100 yard targets
i love the quiets rounds, they are sometimes a little inconsistant, but their so quiet i can take rabbits on my dads small property without annoying the neighbours too much. they are not really any louder than the air rifle but obviously a hell of a lot more grunt, have taken many rabbits at 80+ yards. (our little aussie rabbits (european rabbit) are really a lot smaller than the big old hares your get in the states, we have the same hares as you also, but not very common, but we have thousands of little european rabbits.)
@@christhorney that, is a cool story.
Worked as a cop on both sides of the Snake River for 6 years and saw this plant everyday. Used .38+P ammo in .38 revolvers on the Lewiston side and I used my own S&W model 686 .357 revolver in Asotin County. Great video as I never got to tour the plant.
Could imagine the security on a place like that. Awesome process.
Its probably pretty ho hum... you cross em you get shot. You'd be supprised how much lead goes through the regular UPS and Fedex systems... no real security there, its just a bullet after all. It would be kind of cool if they had American 180 rifles LOL, break in you get the BRRRRRRRRTTTT.
Awesome video. A lot more hand work than I imagined. After seeing all the care and quality, I don't mind paying a little more for their ammo. Thanks CCI and 22Plinkster for making this video.
Incredible process! Thanks for the tour!! Been a huge CCI fan since Mini Mags came out many years ago!
Huh. So planting .22 seeds doesnt make .22 trees?
None of mine have grown, but let me know if you have any luck.
*Danni*....... I've got 58 acres, if you ever come across .22 "seeds" (or ANY caliber for that matter) that will sprout Anything in kind... please, Please - get in touch with me here, right away!
You ever hear of 29 palms? Hmm...
@@Romans--bo7br
They do!!!!! Hahahahaha
www.military.com/kitup/2017/01/military-wants-biodegradable-ammo-shoots-seeds.html
I wish lol
I’ve never appreciated How Its Made now more after watching this.
CCI 22LR copper clad was the first bullet I ever used in my Marlin rifle 30 years ago and is still my preferred ammo.
I love CCI 22LR. My only wish is for them to sell it in loose bulk boxes.
Oh yeah! Even Federal does that!
Why rimfire loose in a box what happens when the box is accidentally dropped and a round goes off? All of them would probably go of if one did
smokey the human that's not how they work...
Dalton v uhm yes it is dumbfuck, rimfire 22lr is mad so the firing pin in the gun doesnt have to hit thw center, pluss if you drop a 22 hard enough itll go off , and if it surrounded and one exploded either the heat or the bullet would cause a chain reaction , ive seen it happen right before my own fuckin eyes dont tell me thats not how it works jackass
smokey the human youre supposed to be gentle with them, not throw them down the side of a mountain.
Man, CCI must love you! I worked many years for a distributor of their's and other makers of ammo and have been given tours of several ammunition makers plants.......but never ever would they take us into where they made .22lr.................was always told it was like a state secret or something! Are there things you learned that you can't tell us or else you'd have to kill us? LOL
Maybe..... :) It took an act of Congress to get me in there. lol
22plinkster you should have suggested they change stingers to stangers
It was just another secret Hillary sold to China, so CCI said, "at this point, what difference does it make..."
+22plinkster I have no doubts that it took some effort to make this a reality. Rimfire ammo is noted for its complicated manufacturing processes so it is undoubtedly not something any company wants to protect. That said, this was quite an experience to watch.
+spasmonaut10 ...err, something a company WOULD want to protect
I've wanted to watch a video like this for over 50 years! Thank you!
thank you for the great video and CCI for allowing you video access. I shared this educational video with our Facebook group Canadian Rimfires Classic. thanks for all you do in the industry 22plinkster.
sorry that's Classic Rimfires Canada
Thank you!
Fantastic video! I'd like to have seen a bit more closeup on the punching/drawing machines, particularly how they expand the bottom rim.
I had to be careful what I filmed. They haven't let anyone film in there for 9 years.
+22plinkster 9 yrs?! what an honor. congratulations man, I can't imagine how exciting that must of been
Agreed. That's the most mysterious part to me.
If I had one wish for a cartrage to be made it would be a reloadable centerfire .22 LR with easily replaceable primers.
I honestly am suprised it hasen't been done with the popularity and age of .22 lr.
Imagine a consistant .22 lr that could be easily reloaded to exact bullet weight/size and powder weight with consistant primers giving one ragged hole accuracy.
Even if it cost a bit more I would do it.
+harry guy I believe there is a kit on the market to reload .22lr now
This is a great video, Thank You so much ! When I was a kid we pretty much had 2 choices Remington, or Winchester, then CCI came on the scene. My grandma bought some of these .22 shells for me for my birthday and I thought I wouldn't like them. Wow was I wrong, I have been buying them every sense then, in fact that is the only brand I will buy.
One of my favorite brands. I have always enjoyed seeing how things are made.
PErfect, who would have thought that just a simple 22lr carries that amount of work impresive cheers
Awsome. I've never had an idea about how my favorite 22 lr cartridges were made. Thank you MONSIEUR 22 plinkster. Merci beaucoup.
Cheers from France.
It's amazing that they can sell the finished product at a price that can cover their costs. American know-how.
Craig Ross the factory price is relatively cheap, we as in the rest of the buyers are at the mercy of the middle man.
Do they have an outlet store at the factory?
They make more then just 22 ammo there, and they get government contracts from what I've heard.. They treat their employee's well, and its actually one of the better places to work in that town.
Per bullet, those .22LR probly cost about 2 cents to make, so they're doing ok lol.
@@rsdna9698 per round manufacturing cost for .22 is less than one cent on that scale. I know a few guys that reload in sufficient quantities that they get their price per round of .223 down to below 10 cents, and even that (one has an automated reloading table thats about 10 feet long and can make something like 12000 rounds a day) is amatuer hour compared to this. the reason ammo prices are so high comparatively is because of the amount of middlemen involved from factory to bullet shelf.
no wonder ammo is so expensive. that's a lot more work than I expected
Lmao it's like .10¢ per round.
More like $0.06
Plus shipping
"Back in my day" it was like $.03/rd. My day was like...2009
Yeah, it really surprises me how much it has gone up (you might be lucky to find t for $.07/round). Though, you have to remember that our government has forced closed (via EPA rules) the last main lead smelter in the US (in Missouri around 12 months ago or so)...meaning most of it is shipped from China/India/etc. Luckily, I bought around 20k rounds at the cheaper price and just hoping the price will come back down.
CCI is the only 22LR ammo that I use been a fan of Mini Mags and Stangers for as long as they’ve been making them!
WOW, i never knew how much went into a 22 untill now,,, amazing !!!
I work in a factory that makes road signs but I’d quit to work in an ammunition factory in a heartbeat
What qualifications do you need?
@@royjaber571 lol
Your job is more important PERIOD.
@@larryreigel2402 definitely not. and how is anyone going to take you seriously when you end the sentence with “PERIOD”
I used to work at a simulator machine shop/plant. It is amazing how many different machines can be altered for different products. Love CCI stingers. Cool video
One of the best How It’s Made episodes
CCI makes 2 MILIONS 22LR bullets PER DAY :=)
You can buy them in the Netherlands in packs of 50-1.000 or even 10.000 at pretty much every gun shop if you have a permit.
@Common Logic Go to a real gun store, not Wal-mart. Wal-Mart restricts the purchase amount of every caliber except .22, so all the shitheads trying to make a quick buck show up at 6am the day inventory restocks and then buy it all up in one fell swoop--and then they resell it at gun shows at 5000% markup. Assholes.
Pretty sad when .223 was cheaper than .22lr for a while, at least in my area.
So sell them in the u.s since Obama finding them in a store is like finding gold.
@Common Logic walmart ammo prices and policies have been terrible for a number of years. Zqi is about all that's worth buying there.
.22lr can be found anywhere. It's not 2013 anymore....
Great video. CCI has always been my favorite and it's American made.
That was great waiting for my new Glock 44 Pre purchased to arrive already bought some CCI AMMO
That's awesome. No if we could only find it in the stores!!!!!
Online is the best. Plenty of bulk deals when buying a brick worth.
I really enjoyed seeing the factory! Working my way through 5K of CCI clean subsonic ATM. Cheers pinkster!
The best 22 ammo out there hands down 💯
THIS IS THE PROCESS PROCESS WHERE WE PROCESS OUR PROCESS SO YOU CAN PROCESS THE PROCESS
I wish I could like your comment every time he says process! 🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
That's a tongue twister.
Your process for this process has a lot of processes.
Jeff Smith Your process is funny thanks.
Alright so this process leads to the next process. Alright so now it's ready for the next process. Alright so this process is finishing what the last process started
THAT was one of the nearest and most enjoyable TH-cam videos I have watched in a LOOOOONG time.
Thank you 22 Pinkster 👍
I want some of the brass left over after the punch that makes the first cuts in the cupping process. Should be cool looking speaker grills. I can imagine an inlay or top lay with overcoat that 2 would look fascinating under stage light.
Peace Out.
Very cool! Hey! Did they check your pockets when you left the building? Looks like you might have gained a few pounds! ;) That was a treat for all of us...Thanks! and thanks to CCI / Speer!
LOL... Fortunately for plinkster, CCI is his sponsor. He hasn't paid for bullets in a few years.
woodstoney CCI and federal sponsor him. He says they take good care of him.
Big thank you to the guys at CCI from Australia.👍
Crazy awesome. A factory tour always impresses me. I look at all the machines and wonder how much this factory is worth and how many rounds have to be made just to break even.
well, a Czechoslovakian company just bought all the factories for 1.9 billion dollars
@@Maleekus dang!
There is CCI here in Brazil is CBC a good factory too. Hugs CCI.
Very cool that they gave you a tour. Love their HV Segmented Hollow Point
theyre pumping them out like that.....yet i still cant find them in my local stores....havnt shot(or even hat a chance to for less than $75 a box) a lr in ~8 years
There have been millions and millions of new shooters the past 8 years; mostly women and children. Guess which caliber they like to shoot the most?
In England they are £7.50 a box (100 rounds)
+Carpet remnent they are mini mags though not stingers
no...last i saw one was a 555 brick....not even the cci brand just the cheap ones. and they wanted $75 for it...
22plinkster
i understand....its just the reason why i put my 22lrs down...
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
Economy in volume.
Gunpowder and lead!
I know who said that originally!
I truly love to see and understand how the products I use, are made! Well done!
I worked at a soda/beer can plant for 8 years and always so interesting to go to work and make sure it was done right!
1.1 million cans per 12 hour shift, 4 days on 4 days off. So Very Cool!
I would like to see the Remington 22lr process. Specifically the golden bullet.
I wish they'd have discussed how much they produce a week or month.
Leo Key Thank you Sir! That's a pretty good jag. I do my best to keep demand up! :-)
I've been told it's somewhere around 3-4 million per day depending on what they're making on the schedule that day
The looked like a very small 22lr production line. They should make 100 pallets of 22lr a day not 1 or 2. The PROBLEM was found! demand has gone WAY up and production is still the same. Who wants to go into the ammo business?
DR Dan
Aguila and the lower priced Eley are from Mexico.
fordrac1ng81 Eley is made in England. Not sure about Aguila
Factory work; someone's got to do it! Thanks so much, guys! (I paid my dues in the factories back in the day!)
i paid mine, too. lots of people thinks it's really cool how this stuff is made, but if they were to have to do it for a day, the thrill would quickly be gone....
Ok! great video BUT
Where do they make Stangers?
Right beside the Stingers!
On the southern side of the plant
+22plinkster shoot fishing string in half
Same building from the start of the video. Just in the next bay over
7:10 When he said all of that lead would be consumed that day, I genuinely looked like the meme of the surprised white guy blinking.
Justin same
Talented folks at work. Thanks for taking the time to make this video, and thanks to CCI for the virtual tour!
Great vid! You didn't say "stanger" though. ;)
I kept listening for it in the video.
All that ammo made in one day and it’s still not enough for everyone to build a supply wtf !
hey...... i'm guilty
Instablaster.
This video brought joy to my Henry 22LR and my Ruger Wrangler!!!
take a shot every time he says the word "process"
mark maron yes
“Alright”
Alcohol poisoning.
mark maron and take a shot of water every time he says "uhh"
Mark maron I was going to make a comment about how many times they say "uhh". glad im not the only one who noticed.
2020: We have ammo shortage all over the country
CCI employees: not us.. we have first dibs...
I came here to try to calculate how long it will take before the shortage stops. By hopefully getting how much 22 this factory makes averaging that by how many there are in the us. Then taking about 100million people times 1000 bullets each then taking the number of bullets produced to find how long it will take for there to be some on shelves more than a day. I’ve checked everyday and nothing except my local gun shop who is trying to sell a 50p of 22lr for $25. I just want my Winchester 555 pack for $27.99 back
@@unknownfuturewaiting5392 by March 2021 i hope
@@Interpolation1911 I’m thinking March 2023
@@unknownfuturewaiting5392 don't you remember when they were under 10 bucks a brick?
@@dhat1755 never bought a brick before but I remember going to Walmart and they had the shelves full and 500 rounds for $23
from now on I'm buying on CCI ammo. Worked in aeronautical manufacturing nearly all my life, and I can appreciate what I saw.
Used to buy a brick for 550 for 5 bucks many years ago.....
Haven't bought .22 LR in 30 yrs..!!!
And my 18 shot Marlin would eat them up in minutes.
Can't imagine the machinery factories had to use during WW1.
Did we use rimfire during the Big One?
We didn't use it but it was around then... ^..^~~
It wasnt all that different then what they are using here
A lot of the equipment is still being used today. I work for the largest.
I don't know about us, but I do know that the British did use large calibre rimfire.
Lots of steps and work involved in making one little bullet. Amazing!!
Wow more labor intensive than I thought, explains the shortage
they need to build more factories to keep up with the demand!
are you being sarcastic?
With a decent shortage, it is good for business because they will ALWAYS be busy and can bump up the price a bit.
it's better to have steady flow of product, people will hold out till the price comes back down if it gets to be what the consumer sees as too much.
More automated today, then when these companies were making a profit selling rim fires for .01 and .02 cents per round, and that was back when material cost were just as high or higher then today's cost, go figure.
"Under every blade of grass".....GOD BLESS USA
Amen
I just started shooting .22LR recently - I actually purchased the Ruger Mark IV Target based on your review. Love slinging CCI through it
great audio, I didn't have any issues.
Lewiston Idaho!!! Have a few friends that work there!!
That's so awesome seeing all the work that goes into making 22. Ammo kind of makes me appreciate it for a change I believe CCI makes the best remfire ammo by far
When will they start putting out 22 magnum again?
They were making tons of them while I was there. Supply and demand......
Rimfires are a low profit item. The demand is here, but most mfg are not certain if it will stay this way or die down once everyone gets their stockpiles. No one wants to be the one with a warehouse of machines doing nothing due to a drop in demand. .22 is avaliable online, but at 7-10 cents per round. It will not go back to 3 cents because the issue there isn't supply but inflation and devaluing of the dollar due to wage increases. If you note, all prices are doubling in preparation of the wage increase which ironically lowers your wealth.
There is a possibility if Trump settles the debt, the economy will hit a low temporarily while the market evens out, but when it recovers the dollar will be worth a lot more, there will be less taxation and we may very well see .22 (among other things) back to their original prices. And of course, more jobs and businesses here in the US meaning more opportunities for competition that could further drive the prices down.
+Dave Smith if you believe that stuff then please call me urgently. I have a great deal for you on some land in south Florida. Complete with all the water and mosquitos you could ever want!!!
What a great video ! Always wondered how it was made. Keep up the great work, love your channel !
I just watched my past
I worked all those punchpresss when I was in my 20s and 30s and 1/2 way to my 40s
Definitely brought back some memories for sure
Great video
EVERYONE: “Can’t find .22 ammo anywhere. “
CCI: “Shucks, we have all ten of our employees working working a single 1960’s assembly line 5 days a week?”
Federal has the same type of plant they make the same amount of ammo all day everyday.
You would be surprised or impressed , but it wouldnt fit the narrative of the ammo shortage err hoarding thats going on.
That's ONLY one, line producing .22 ammo at CCI..... There are many more, and they didnt show you their mag lines...
today feb 4 2021 i hit the motherload of CCI MINIMAG and standard velocity at my wal mart . after months of getting skunked i walked in to the gun counter and found 6 full sleeves of minimags and 90 boxes of standard velocity . i asked the guy if there was a limit .....he said no .....i said i want ALL OF IT .....yes im that guy . i wont re sell it , but ill damn sure shoot it and stash some .
The amount of times ‘process’ was said blew my mind. 😂
I made tons of Bats for plating from stainless and small iron bats. Right down the street up snake river ave.
Manufacturing is the heart beat of every nation.
thats a metric shit ton of lead for one day! nice vid
it would only be a metric shit ton if it would be for 5.56 LR ammo :)
Ease up Phil. But you are right.
5.56 LR??
+Homer Simpson II Sure, that works too
Caleb M. It would if it were an actual thing.
Did you get a truck bed full of ammo?
That was so cool never thought it would be that hard to do. I was wrong cci is that best please make more for Walmart in Milton Florida no ammo at all. Great job!
That's a cool place to work I'd bet. Maybe they get Chrismas bonus paid in 22 ammo?
at todays prices , you were buried in about 23 billion dollars worth of rimfire
The best ammo video I've seen, really enjoyed it! Thanks to all the fine folks at CCI for making a superior product, and thanks to you, 22plinkster, for sharing this... Semper Fi!
Since it is difficult, for safety or logistics, to show close ups of it process please consider creating a visual or graphic to illustrate the process.
exactly - from step (Process!) one, i kept saying how about some animation.
Yeah, Like gerbils or hamsters on exercise wheels turning some fancy machinery gadgets! With the caption "This is their Trade Secret!" ROTF LMAO Either they would get a big kick out of it or get pissed about it! Any way it would be funny!
I’m watching this like a kid watching how candy is made. I just want to scoop it all up 🤤
Have used CCI for years, in fact of my 3 Remington Nylon 66's, not a one has fired anything but the CCI 22LR. I recall years ago I finally had a round that did not fire. Being curious got the head off the bullet and found powder but nothing to ignite the charge. I was told back then it had to be a 1 in a quad trillion chance. Here I am now 74 and still use CCI ammo and never had another misfire or dry fire event. For those my age, you might recall mini-mag rimfires, thanks to CCI. as was Stingers the FIRST hyper-velocity 22 LR. A great company with a proud tradition and it looks like employees still proud of their work.
Buried in 22!! That was a perfect end to this video. Well done sir.