Are 1/5 PETROL R/C Better than Nitro?
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Lots of people experiencing issues with Nitro cars relating mainly to starting and tuning. The larger Petrol alternatives require no set break in procedure, little/no tuning, less maintenance - and they start much easier too.
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Morning All!
So... a conclusion that I've come to is that despite their size and cost... a 1/5 might be a better choice for beginners! Let me know your thoughts :)
I dont Think so because nitro fule is Premixd and Petrol you need to Mix and the Loudnes of thes cars is so bad that you cant realy run them any were and dont get yelld at 😂👍
I agree petrol or gas is easy compare to nitro. On nitro you need glow igniter, you need to tune defend on the temperature. And after you run you need clean the engine and fuel!tank.
They are alot easier to maintain than a nitro, and nitros you constantly need to retune the carbies, its easier to mix a 25:1 ratio, 40ml of 2 stroke oil to 1L of petrol, my nitro buggy which I have a HPI trophy 3.5, and a HSP camper both are a Pain in the A** at the best of times, the petrol ones you can run for about 45-50 minutes on 1 tank of juice, nitros you get about 10 minutes of runtime, then there's the worry of engine temperature as well, they need to be specific for nitro the 2 strokes is mix and have fun with it, and to clean is simple enough, nitro you have to clean every detail, don't get me wrong I still have a blast with my nitros but the only down fall the the 2 stroke is they sounds like a 125cc MX dirtbike, and not exactly practical for dense neighbourhood areas, they more require a open field to have some good fun in. Nitro just doesn't tick the neighbourhood off as much. As they sound more like a fly.
I personally think that they would scare some people out of the hobby as the petrol ones are extremely loud and that means you will have to go somewhere quite which means they will not use it much and they might then go off the hobby but that is my opinion
@@jezzathecezza8037 you can get a different exhaust installed, they usually are able to be quietened down, where ever there's a will there's a way.
You can see the passion in his eyes & body language when the engine starts up on the first pull!
Thanks for watching
I agree with this vid. I’ve been using nitros for 17 years and I just got into the 1/5 scale hobby 3 years ago. I like both. But The 1/5 is fairly maintenance free and very easy to maintain. If you have the space to store the 1/5 scale and don’t mind the loud noise, I’d recommend it for a beginner
Agreed! :)
For me both are awesome and a lot of fun, electrics on the other hand I’m not really into
Same for me
Me too! We don't do electrics on this channel haha
@@TheRCBiker Yep that’s the best part. Have you ever considered getting into RC planes?
@Pilot Paul it would cool once this lockdown over to see him do it.
@@paulspomer16 yes, I've uploaded videos of planes before!
I grew up on electric as a kid but man once you have a taste of Nitro or Gas you won’t even bother looking at electric cars 🔥⚙️
Hey, just want to say so glad you started posting videos again use to watch all your older videos have all really helped me with my hobby with nitro cars too.
Love the baja 5B can remember the first day that came out what a machine. But I can beat that 7 months and starting the baja I own a Schumacher havoc monster truck with a big block .28 engine and I’ve had it sat in my room for nearly 2 years and started the hobby again in the first lockdown and it started fine with only 3 revolutions on the drill start. But that could just be my nitro engine they can be fiddly but this is one of the best nitro engines I’ve ever owned ever time you come to it not matter how long it’s been sat for it always fires with very little effort.
Thanks for watching
Brilliant channel. Just subscribed. Just took my Inferno Neo out today. Been in storage with after run oil for about 6 years. Was an absolute pig to start. Eventually realised that the old fuel had gone off. New fuel and boom. I thought that I was the only person still running Nitro cars. Seems like everyone else has gone over to brushless/lipos.
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Great RC RTR Kit, thanks for the informative video.
Thanks for watching!
My god that’s a beast ! Looking well buddy ...🤙
Hey i had a boat with a nitro engine and it was a complete disaster 😆 but i always wanted a rc car with fuel so this way better and more easy ? Is the marauder a good rc buggy ?
Very informative and nice content mate. Kudos to your brief but beefy explanation. I've been an avid watcher of your videos about RCs especially nitro. But in my case, I also had petrol bajas in the past, for me if a nitro engine is well looked after, 2-3 pulls it fires up easily, even been sitting for months. I have a 3.0 losi truggy with a.21 B7 nitro engine, and tell you what, I never bashed with it for 2 years straight because I mostly played with my SS truggy with a bonito engine on it. And yeah, after 2 years I decided to fire it up to see how it'll behave right from the tuning, servo settings etc. It fired up less than a minute pushed in the starter box, without changing even the glow plug, and the tuning remained as what I left it on. And I mentioned well looked after, I remember I put like massive amounts of after run oil in it, before shelving it. I think it all depends on what brands of nitro engines you have. More reliable brands, the better expectations.
Yes I agree :) Unfortunately beginners seem to be attracted by the cheapest 1/10 nitro they can find and then have a bad experience and impression of the hobby
Congrats on 100k subscribers
Thank you :)
Completely agree. It comes down to glow vs spark ignition. Spark ignition has more energy to get that fire going and is much less fickle 😄 love both though. Just put a new Force 25 into the ol 1/8 Caster Truggy today. Breaking it in tomorrow and trying out new engine heater 😎 as usual, great work and look forward to your vids 😀🇦🇺
Force engines are awesome :)
Couple of things about the 1/5 scale 2-stroke buggies.. you don't need to use the choke. Prime it first and the gently/slowly pull the starter cord and let the fuel mix into the cylinder. 3 gentle pulls and it will start after that by the first or second proper pull.
Secondly, these buggies don't have reverse and have a poor turning circle so you will need a large open area to allow you to have some proper fun.
Great video they still sell the Maverick blackout I thought that was discontinued
yes they do, not sure what spares are like for that though
Ive had both in the past and ive just bought another nitro. I loved my hpi baja but missed the tinkering that was required with nitro. And i always found that the baja just ripped up its wheels and rim locks all the time!
I forgot to mention as well if you get one.of these depending on the model, for example, I have the Rovan 5b Baja buggy which is a HPI clone, you can get a Bolt on Conversion Kit to make it a Short course truck, and its quite simple to do with loads of fun.
Thanks for the info :)
I just ordered one of these last week, 36cc one. A video about first startup, running it in and general mentanaince would be great.
I've already done these videos :)
Hey mate, I have a nitro one I haven’t used in ages needs a new starter. Would you help repair or recommend anyone? I live in same town as you.
I have the aowei Yama buggy 26cc 2 stroke it’s 12 years old but I’ve not used it since my dad lost the charger and I’m looking for a new one and some batteries to go with it do you know where I can find these? Any help would be much appreciated 😊
Hey man I have a problem with my nitro car. The car pull left if I drive try to drive straight. Any suggestions
Hi, what would be a good servo upgrade for the vrx 1 nitro truggy.love the vids keep up the good work
Throttle or steering servo? Specturm metal geared one would be a good upgrade. Or any metal geared one would be an improvement
Hey, when are you posting more nitro content? The weather has gotten a lot better and we love your content!
Been rather busy with work lately. Will get some videos done soon
@@TheRCBiker Thanks for responding. By the way, yesterday I started up my Ansmann Virus 3 with the .21 engine in it and I felt like it was running lean on the low end. It was sitting at high rpms at idle even though the gap in the carb was 0.8-0.9mm what sould I do?
I like your videos you put it in simple language
Thanks for watching
Heyi have a question I have a nitro buggy but I have a problem where the pull start slips I have took it apart and cleaned the one way bearing but it still dose it. I can get the car started but its a lot more effort then usual.
More than likely you need a new one way bearing
My nitro buggy been sitting for 7 years had to take it apart and give it a nice clean got it running bout a week ago and its been running decent I do need to get a clutch for it tho the one it has is a little worn.
Awesome, have fun!
I need to ask if I have a nitro bottle and the bottle was closed for like a month is it still good to use cuz it's like mostly full, and I watched your video and I'm going to take out the tank and clean it and dump all the access fuel that was already in the tank for like a month
Yes that'll be fine.
Can you help me do you hear a gear change on a two speed nitro engine if I don’t hear that change do I loosen the clutch
You should hear it. Loosing the adjustment screw on the gearbox clutch will make it shift earlier
Mine starts 3rd pull without the choke. And the HPI clone HPI parts bolt to it, I have a Baja 5B clone made by Rovan RC, and I usually buy either the Roven parts if I can't get them HPI does the job.
Thanks :) Yeah HPI parts fit although they're not readily available these days
Hello, can you please help me? When i start my rc car, candles spins, and after 15 sec motor stops
Might be your igniter that you use to start car
1/5 do require a lot of checkin and maintenance. All the gaskets will end up needing to be replaced, correct fuel mixture and correct tuning. Usually 1/5 are okay if the engines are kept well maintained :)
Usually you can get a better start by turning the engine over 3 times and leave the piston at the top nearest the sparkplug so the first pull you do, your suckin in the fuel.
Bashed mine for over a year still on same plug same tune. And starts like the day i got it. Rovan 29cc like the one in video
Hi I've watch your channel a few times.
I need your help. I'm new to the nitro RC hobby.
I got from a friend a very old ONFA LX ultra comp. I believe it has a bad 26 motor. What you recommend as a replacement.
You won't find a .26 engine but you can get a .28 engine replacement, Mach .28, Force .28. Lots out there :)
%100 agree with you 1/5 gas is the way to go vs nitro for beginners all day! There both exciting and a blast but with nitro you need more tuning skills and starting can be a hassle at times! Great video! I should do one on the big bore engines for 1/5 Bajas since im building 2 Rcmax beasts on my channel👍
Absolutely!
Hey just got my first nitro. Very sad have to still buy 2 servos, nitro engine, and exhaust stuff but that's time to finish the kit setup. Any suggestions on nitro engines and stuff needed for 8ight xt ?
Depends what you're using it for! The 8ight is more a race orientated buggy so I'd be looking at an LRP engine with some decent quality servos!
Hey , i got a nitro rc car that only respond to like 3 commands ( steering or acelerating ) then it just stops responding, what may be the problem?
Considering that the receiver and controller are brand new
Batteries?
Have you got any tips on getting the outer wears cover on the air filter? I lost my rag and gave up with mine
I can't remember, it was a while ago! You can remove it though for better access
Are spares for the clones like the one you have readily available? I have a couple of nitros but always assumed 1/5 scale would be harder to live with. How wrong was I? Lol Great videos by the way 👍
Spares for the clones are found everywhere, at least where I live. and most of the hpi parts fit on the clones
Spares of the 5B Baja, HPI parts will bolt to it straight away.
Yes loads of spares on RCmodelz.co.uk :)
Same as a nitro, just without the stupid high prices for fuel. Bigger engine and easier use, just a weedwacker in an rc shell. Awesome!
True!
Hi there I was looking for a info on the mac star 28 6p with the bule insert or restriction on the net and no luck is it OK to take it out after break in and a few tanks i has had like 3L of nitro fule now
Yes, you will need to retune it once removed though.
Great that was a nice intro
Hi brother hope your fine, we MISS U :)
I'm all good :)
Hi bro it's been a super long time getting my cars ready again
Awesome! Yeah, summer will soon be here!
Hiya they was a video from 10 years ago it was high speed needle tuning you seem to know the carb measurement on the hsp 1/10 scale would you mind checking and see if you know what the measurement on carb are
You need to tune the engine according to how it's running, using settings that work for somebody else won't work
@@TheRCBiker I think it’s running abit to rich fuel is coming out of exhaust and when go to hit throttle it dies then picks up
What size glow plug work into the VRX HR 1006
They take standard plugs, there's only two types. Normal & Turbo.
I’m thinking of buying a KX125 what are your opinions?
never had it :)
I bought 2 of these 1 worked fine for 3 runs then the carb broke. Then I paid 500 for the upgraded version. Came out of the box broken also wasn't happy got refunded wouldn't mind another
Pls more with this one ❤ I thinking about buying One (Rovan baja 5b)
My "HSP Tornado" need a friend 😊
Coming soon :)
Hey The RC biker i need help tunning my buggy right
Watch my tuning videos
Do you think the hpi g3.0 would fit into the ftx torro
Yes it's the same engine
For the roven baja can you find parts for it and can you put hpi parts on it
Yes & yes
@@TheRCBiker thank you it’s really helped me out and thanks for the quick reply
Do you also have idle, high speed and low speed needles? What kind of set up is needed? None ? Cool video btw 😎
Most tend to be rich out of the box and dont really need much tuning from experience! Possibly lean out for a bit of performance but same tuning principles as a nitro👍👍
Just turn the H needle a 1/4 turn to lean it out and they go faster
Yes you do have all the tuning needles. but they are more tolerant of bad mixtures (i.e. They'll still run well!) and they don't require regular adjustments. Not at least for the average basher anyway.
@@TheRCBiker OK thanks. First time I bought a Nitro car (maybe 10y ago) I watched some of your videos explaining how to tune the engine's needles. I then stopped it for a few years. And last year I bought again a Nitro car... and found you again on TH-cam :-) just a bit older :-) Great job, please keep on posting.
The most important thing is no annoying smell in hands and body after playing gasoline 5th scale baja
Never had any issues to start my nitros. Just Keep the igniter loaded, Check the glowplug, preheat and prime the engine( dont flood it) and you are good to go🤷♂️
Yeah it's not so much the starting... but the tuning is what most people seem to struggle with
@@TheRCBiker sure that can be difficult as h*ll sometimes.
Small thing but thank you for calling it a strimer and not a weed wacker 😅
Where are you man, missed you
Busy working :) Producing videos takes a lot of time so has to take a backseat sometimes
Thanks!)
Thank you !
Where do you get your HPI parts from?
ebay
No matter how annoying nitro is sometimes. Prefer it all the way. Btw I’m cousins with Jamie Clancy professional nitro racer and I’ve really interested in how to get me into engines and me being young it’s hard and I’ve find something to have fun with also my uncle who lives near me fixes my cousins cars so I’ve been getting loads of advice from you and my uncle. Thx
Glad you're enjoying the hobby :)
@@TheRCBiker could you look at you emails please. thank you
I don’t speak English well, but I’m watching the video well 👍👍👍
Thank you! 😃
For me I run alot of nitro. But petrol also specially in the really cold months.
No preheat!🤣
Petrol is definitely easier to start in these colder months that's for sure!
What do you have to mix the fuel with?
2 Stroke Oil
@@TheRCBiker Ok thank you, love your channel by the way.
Where are the new vidddds 💙💙
Been too busy lately !
Not sure if you now . But the law as changed on nitro fuel . Got to have a licence to handle over 25% now . Great vid 🇬🇧👍
Yes I was aware, anything more than 25% has always been difficult to get in the UK anyway for some reason
You live in country with communist in America we can get anything
Louder than a 1/8 nitro MT ?
They sound like a 2 stroke 125cc MX dirtbike
I would say so yes. Particularly with this exhaust.
@@TheRCBikerThis could be a strong disadvantage then. Keep on posting great videos ! Cheers from Switzerland
All them radios! I thought I had a lot at five.
Thanks for watching
@@TheRCBiker Hey there! Nice rcs!!!
Hi, i want to buy some petrol rc but I don't have big budget. So I wanna ask you if you know about some really cheap petrol rc😁
Yeah, the one in this video
you won't get anything cheaper than that
@@TheRCBiker thanks
Tell me on thing, because my English is weak. What do you mean. Before you two Times pulled, what you make ON, and after that you make "this" OFF, and than the engine start quickly. What you make ON and OFF? :)
The choke
@@TheRCBiker ok, thanks :) i am watching some videos about petrol model, because I want to buy Carson Dirt GP Attack
Your excellent videos have inspired me to buy one Rovan Baja from BangGood! Can't wait for it to arrive! :) :) :)
Have fun!
bro which is more powerful
Well, the nitro car has a pretty small engine(~3.5CC), while the gas buggy has a chainsaw engine (Stock-29cc). Both are pretty powerful but the gas car is a lot more fun 😁
I love my 1/5 short course truck
What 1/5 SCT do you have?
@@TheRCBiker Rovan lt320
It’s in my pic mate
Love from kerala❤️❤️❤️
Awesome
Thank you :)
🙋🏾♂️I'm a noob and honestly nitro is just better for me I like the tinkering my brother had been into it for about 20 years and just watching him I appreciate the fixing and tinkering so I'll get both lol
Agreed!
Come back m8😢
True, but nitro never dies!!!
i mean yes.. technically.. petrol's are a lot easier. but then again -when they are easy, what is left to "learn" and, can you tune the petrol's like nitro engines? and does the general user like or dislike this? then there is the mmassive price tag for petrol rc's. nitro's can be expensive too but are still way cheaper in my country at least.
for me personally i own a savage XL 5.9
i have yet to get a problem with it.. its just such a good nitro rc.
a friend of mine has a baja B5 and..
the price was expensive even 2nd hand, and he had to rebuild the whole engine a couple of times before he eventually sold it due to being such a nightmare.
Thanks for watching!
I was just looking at one good timing
They worth every cent!!!
They are very good value for money check out RCmodelz.co.uk
I have a over 30 years old nitro rc car and because of this i am pretty sure that i also can handle a new nitro car
One major issue is where to run a 1/5th scale, how on earth peeps think it’s acceptable to run them in the local park is beyond me and then another can of worms is insurance. What insurance do you have ??
same insurance that cyclists and mobility scooter drivers have (none).
@@TheRCBiker oh dear, I hope you never have an incident with third party....
@@qrc7767 can't live life like that though can you lol . It's just a hobby. That's like getting insurance for when I take my brother to the park to play football, what if he kicks the ball into someone's head? You could go on and on
@@TheRCBiker well £20 per year with BRCA will give enough cover, all clubs ask for this as a minimum, it’s about being responsible doing this hobby, but never mind...🤦♂️
Clubs need to ask for it as part of their own due diligence and agreements with land owners and local authorities. It is not a requirement of the hobby to hold insurance, the same as it's not with sports, fishing, flying a kite or various other activities which you perform in public places. I do however agree that it's about being responsible, which hopefully from watching my bashing videos you'll notice they're always filmed in quiet locations
I think even tho nitro is harder to work with etc it’s less intimidating. I can break a nitro engine and buy a new one and fit it in pretty easily. If something was to go wrong on a 2 stroke I wouldn’t even know where to start let alone buy a replacement part and I think you get much cooler shell designs etc with nitro then a 2 stroke which often tends to look like the one in the video 🤷🏾♂️
yes the bigger ones do all tend to look the same! Probably largely because only a few companies actually make petrols
@@TheRCBiker yeah; it would be great to get some buggy’s and truggys designs etc but I guess the components of a 2 stroke might make it difficult. I’ll deffo buy a 2 stroke after I build my nitro collection up
If it wasn’t for 1/5th scale. I’d never get back into r/c despite how cool nitro is. My patience isn’t what it use to be. Gas is more convenient than nitro for me.
Definitely requires less patience! :)
damn years :(
What do you mean? :)
I want one them petrol cars badly me
I can feel ya...
And yeah agree 2stroke ones are so much easier
When I new video I ansyyyyyy
Pardon?
Can you sell me a second car
There great but too loud
yes they sure are!
Yep I think he's left us again lads😪
I have a full time job so TH-cam has to take a back seat !
cant beat the smell of nitro burning though even if it is a carcinogen
Thanks for watching
Nitro slash 🏎️ is were the rc Power is If u want some real rc fun I ,🤞
I'll get my nitro 3.5 buggy soon.
I sold all my electric cars due to it's boring. Go back to old school nitro again. You know what I'm talking about...smell of fuel, engine sound....Oh boy!
Sure do :)
Petrol ones are so insanely noisy, it's impossible to drive them anywhere
not really, no noisier than somebody doing some garden strimming
Can you sell me a nitro car
wtf is a zed
Very weird comparison.
Look forward to seeing yours
@@TheRCBiker I would never compare a petrol powered rc car with a glow engine powered rc car.
2 different things.
nitro breaks real fast,better go gasoline or electric...
my thoughts ? don't get 1/5 scale ! don't get 1/8 scale ! get 1/10 scale nitro touring car or buggy ! 1/0 scale nitro engines today are cheap $60 new plus can run with methanol "ZERO" nitro 0% with oil mix that only cost $39 for a 5 gallon can, plus bodys are available like mustang fire-bird and many more real life cars ! ,drawback of 1/5 scale gas is cheap but parts bust easily ,drawback of 1/8 scale good quality but suck up nitro fuel costing tons of $$$$
Thanks for tuning in :)
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Is it me, or does this fella talk like he’s giving a weather forecast??? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Thanks for watching!
Where are the new vidddds 💙💙
Been a bit busy lately!