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  • Join me as I butcher the pronunciation of Shou Sugi Ban, a traditional Japanese wood preservation technique. Or, if that doesn't sound cool enough, join me as I build a solid oak desk and then take a fricken flame thrower to it! Big thank you to Minwax for sponsoring this build as part of their celebration of Woodworking Month. When I'm building free furniture for my friends having sponsors for builds really helps me cover the production costs. This desk is for my buddy Robin who helped me out on my keyboard tray video. Along the way, I also explore concepts of friendship, and why it can be SO HARD to get honest feedback from your friends about your art.
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  • @ZacBuilds
    @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Hey everyone just found out that Minwax has given me at least one prize pack (maybe more) to give away over on my Instagram page! If you want some free Minwax products for your next build make sure you're following me on Instagram @ZacBuilds instagram.com/zacbuilds/

    • @nosferatuzodd6427
      @nosferatuzodd6427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good job. Wood finishing is an art form in and of itself. Buy yourself a copy of Bob Flexners "Understanding Wood Finishing" it's a great reference to have around. Also invest in a Domino XL for this type of work and a Lamello P2 Zeta for the cabinet jobs when you can you wont be sorry. Normal biscuits are better than nothing when it's all you have kicking around but the Domino XL or a horizontal morticer and home made tennons cant be beat. Also could do mortice and tennon bread board ends fixed together drawbore pins. Likely would have helped reduce some of the movement caused by the heat from the tourch lol. Either way good content keep doing what your doing brother.

    • @NovocaineTV
      @NovocaineTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meh... can still see those joint lines in the wood. Shoulda done epoxy in the gaps.

    • @deven6518
      @deven6518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was the wood treated? Treated wood doesn't char too well.

    • @deven6518
      @deven6518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NovocaineTV I don't think it's the joint be lines you're seeing but rather the mismatch in the grain. The eyes focus on patterns, it's why we see shapes in clouds. If you're joining boards, try your best to match grain

    • @andyh8239
      @andyh8239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the flooring; what is it?

  • @yoleegirl
    @yoleegirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Broke my heart when you stained over that beautiful shou sugi ban.

    • @OutSideTheBoxox
      @OutSideTheBoxox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Me too

    • @maryannkom299
      @maryannkom299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Exactly, shou Sufi ban isn’t to make something uniformly black!

    • @kz.irudimen
      @kz.irudimen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      It was already completely charred, I think there was really no point in burning the wood if the client just wanted it pure black. The goal of burning it is to highlight the grain because it burns unevenly ...

    • @Daniel08353
      @Daniel08353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kz.irudimen not really. Burning it charred black is a protectant from moisture, insects, and fire. Lightly burning it has no form of protection, and is mere aesthetics. It entirely depends on the desired results.

    • @kz.irudimen
      @kz.irudimen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Daniel08353 1. The wood does not need to be burned anywhere near that bad to be protected. 2. This is a desk, good to know that it is protected from insects and extreme weather.
      It was just the wrong technique for the application and desired results, probably to add popular buzzwords to the title as this is youtube

  • @brotesser1
    @brotesser1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +568

    OK no sugarcoat: It looks Like you just painted a normal desk black.

    • @51075BIGRIGG
      @51075BIGRIGG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Yea technically he did, because he burns it then uses deep black penetrating stain. So I’m confused why use stain if the point was to burn it to achieve the look.

    • @whitetailtherapy7908
      @whitetailtherapy7908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yeah I mean I guess It probably has a little texture ..But like you said just looking at it just like a normal desk painted black lol

    • @Gloryofthereef
      @Gloryofthereef 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You get really nice effects if you stain a color to contrast the black, but clearly the client wanted black. Each project is built for the customer not for yourself. Though that’s not to say you should EVER build a turd on purpose if you value your time.

    • @scottroy6195
      @scottroy6195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Agreed here. And put all those coats on it to make it smooth. I don't think shou sugi ban is a good idea for a desk.

    • @VeitSchenk
      @VeitSchenk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@51075BIGRIGG lol, that's the first question that popped into my head: why bother with the burn, if it's all coated in a super-black, all-covering stain.

  • @AndrewLaBreck
    @AndrewLaBreck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Hardwoods are MUCH harder to get the burnt effect on than softer woods, which is why cedar is used traditionally! Pine works decently as well. It also allows the grain to be much more pronounced and you can do some really interesting stuff with soft woods like sanding in-between grains to get really exaggerated effects as it can create little valleys and lots of interesting texture.

    • @truthnaut7829
      @truthnaut7829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I was always under the impression that shou sugi ban was about making the grain pop out in the 1st place so not sure why he was using the technique to achieve a blackest black look. Also, in my experience Minwax black is more very dark brown and the best way to achieve what he was shooting for would have been to use India Ink to just stain it

    • @AndrewLaBreck
      @AndrewLaBreck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@truthnaut7829 Yeah I get what you are saying. If you look at people doing what he was trying to achieve wit cedar you get this almost dragon scale effect that you can't really get on hardwoods. He didn't achieve that look which is why I agree something like a black stain probably would have done the same thing combined with a good sealer , could have avoided minor warping while getting the same effect.

    • @michaelalfonso1070
      @michaelalfonso1070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I learned that too on my first Sugi project, (pine hand cut dovetails with a Maple handle) that Maple didn’t burn, lol!

    • @joeforHistruth
      @joeforHistruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Douglas Fir works really well, the hard grain really stands out for a great texture!

    • @NobodyReport
      @NobodyReport 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd also say burning before the glueup would probably help with the gap and warping

  • @actionfighters
    @actionfighters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think that doing a Shou Sugi Ban style project is really cool, but its hard to get the real texture out of something that has a bunch of coats of finish on it. That's why a lot of the Shou Sugi Ban woodwork is used for exterior use like house paneling. Its still really cool though!

  • @tonyk132
    @tonyk132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I agree with Creig. Would personally have liked to see 4 separate matching shou sugi ban timber legs and integrated storage like drawers. Metal legs look industrial. However, thanks for demonstrating the burning and staining process. It's a real eye opener revealing the lessons learnt.

  • @Danielism
    @Danielism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how you blended the aesthetic which is not exactly functional, but came up with a way to make it functional with great form. Huge win, congrats.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Daniel! Much appreciated man

  • @eugenebakulin2484
    @eugenebakulin2484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Honest feedback: I really enjoyed watching the process, glueing, cutting, sanding, burning, staining. It really adds a lot of value for the owner knowing how much effort it took. I don't know how it _feels_ but the final product _looks_ like a desk from IKEA. Kind of surprised b this outcome -- maybe too many coats making it too shiny?

    • @tegan71969
      @tegan71969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, might as well just go buy IKEA if your own piece looks like it came from there. I would be badly annoyed if people, when referring to one of my custom furniture builds, asked me: "Is that IKEA?!?"

    • @overphloh
      @overphloh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally enjoyed the video, thank you so much for that! Nevertheless I also think it doesn't have this handmade or special character to it. Maybe (hopefully) that's only on camera. My first thought was that the surface looks like black painted wood. I would love to see a black painted (or stained) peace of wood next to the table to see the difference.

    • @AshtrayAnnie
      @AshtrayAnnie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's due to multiple reason. Real Yakasugi is only burnt wood. No oiling process. That the main reason it was done. To seal without oils. The videos I watch of this process on TH-cam all the idiots do the same WRONG steps. Not to mention Oak is WAY different than Cedar.

    • @Ben-fk9ey
      @Ben-fk9ey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea definitely took away much of the rustic charm and personality the desk had.

  • @faissalabsml4393
    @faissalabsml4393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is one of the few channels I make sure not to miss any of their new videos, and I don't even work with wood.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Faissal! I'm right there with you man, I watch tons of videos on TH-cam about hobbies I don't actually do, sometimes it's fun just to watch the process!

    • @faissalabsml4393
      @faissalabsml4393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZacBuilds Exactly, I just finished the video and tbh, the desk turned out really well, I love the black finish.

  • @MarcosElMalo2
    @MarcosElMalo2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Too many compliments and not enough criticism? Allow me to assist you! 😄
    Keep in mind that I’m too lazy to attempt this build, so take it with a grain of salt.
    But anyway, here goes: Those pre-built legs are shit. They’re really ugly, as in low quality ugly. You didn’t give us a close up on the welds, but from a distance they look bad. The parts of the legs near the top that were ground looked gross, too. You should have cleaned up the legs. Use an angle grinder to clean the welds on the feet, then use your orbital sander to smooth/feather the shitty grinds near the top. If you choose, you can create patterns using a palm sander and scotch bright.
    As far as finishing the legs, if you want that industrial aesthetic, you’re going to want to apply a chemical patina, THEN clear coat it. This process alters the surface layer of the metal itself, and you can achieve a wide variety of looks depending on which scary chemicals you apply.

    • @joelovestorah1403
      @joelovestorah1403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Pretty harsh but the legs were garbage. Ps. You can't blame it on well my friend ordered them because I'm not attaching a turd to my Mona lisa.

    • @Kaodusanya
      @Kaodusanya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really wish people would stop using premade legs. Makes the entire build look generic.

  • @hyundaiverna
    @hyundaiverna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Next time, if you consider going into such type of endeavor again, you can try epoxy resin: it fills the cracks between boards, self leveling and hopefully will save time on applying coats and sanding

    • @sambodutch5433
      @sambodutch5433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wont work bro, epoxy leaks like a sieve through the entire table once the wood is burned, it'll come out the other side, i do this kind of stuff every day :)

    • @fearthesunrise
      @fearthesunrise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sambodutch5433 there is loads of videos of resin after burning so it can be done.

    • @sambodutch5433
      @sambodutch5433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fearthesunrise OK, fair enough.

    • @kesselrunheroj8497
      @kesselrunheroj8497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sambodutch5433 best comment

    • @61spindrift
      @61spindrift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sambodutch5433 Why not seal the bottom and sides with a quick epoxy, let it dry and then do an epoxy "finish coat" on top? Either that or make a mold?

  • @rodolfoconejos6477
    @rodolfoconejos6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simplicity is the beauty of this desk. Great work!

  • @MacMcCardle
    @MacMcCardle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Dude, fist up awesome build skills and I really appreciate your honesty on remembering to seek criticism. It is SO easy to get caught up in yourself, especially here where your friends and fans are giving the feedback.
    I don't like the desk myself but that doesn't mean it's bad, you've experimented with new materials, gained skill and of course the recipient will love it. I know people have said it but yeah, those legs just don't do it for me, I won't flog a dead horse as others have said it but I will add I didn't really like the mounting hardware. Those screws looked like they were gonna tear out with time and it really could have done with washers to get a good fit.
    This might be the video speaking, but on camera the finish looks waxy and thick, I feel like you could have used cheap wood, painted and coated to get the same results. Maybe in person it looks different but that's my 2c. Heck maybe skip the Shou Sugi Ban finish and go direct to minwax black?
    Overall it's been a journey and I know I'll be taking some ideas with me! Love the way you experimented with different things though.

  • @FAB1150
    @FAB1150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly I really like the look, I can see why someone could prefer timber legs or unstained wood (the two main pieces of criticism here in the comments), but I dig the more industrial look and that color, with some but not too much grain showing. Love it

  • @jeremiahbrown4344
    @jeremiahbrown4344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just a helpful tip. Use a smaller torch, you'll get a more concentrated flame. Tecnique takes a little longer, but this allows you to focus on the wood and not overwork burning it. I have always had good luck getting a nice Shou Sugi Ban finish this way. Happy woodworking Ladies and Gents :)

  • @mechafan180
    @mechafan180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's freaking awesome, I'm totally building one of these desk, but I think I'll use some scrap pine I have. I've done shou sugi ban a few times but I always used resin as a finish. I never thought of using polyurethane. There's a pigment called true fire by black diamond pigments, it's a two tone that when applied to shou sugi ban using resin it looks amazing. It's like a galactic sparkle purple, or that's what I think its like.

  • @hang4963
    @hang4963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am sure that will inspire lots of DIY after watching this, Also, you will get to asked "Can you do this for me I will pay you" ? 😜👍👍👍 Thank you for sharing

  • @WHATAGIRLWANTS2009
    @WHATAGIRLWANTS2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Zac, I appreciate your videos and skill, however, I think this project was a miss. I would have preferred seeing you develop more char and texture in the burning process and then use a shallow pour resin to get it back to level (with that process you could use any wood). I would have also preferred a keyboard tray to clean-up the desktop clutter. The legs were very clunky, but your client chose those himself.

  • @Furcapper
    @Furcapper ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't have a place to really try big DIY projects, but man do I want to try to build a desk for myself right now. Amazing stuff.

  • @SusuReedJango
    @SusuReedJango 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With "project" if you follow proper pronunciation, you say it correctly. Unfortunately, most Americans don't understand proper pronunciation, and accept common pronunciation.
    We (Americans) are taught that if there's a vowel, consonant, vowel we emphasize the first vowel.
    But most don't follow through with that.
    I live in VA and inherited a Delaware accent so I had to figure out why people thought I talked "northern", that's why

  • @furthernorthfab
    @furthernorthfab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The struggle is real, Zac. For one Canuck to another… beautiful PRO-ject

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha thanks Kris, good to know I'm not alone :)

  • @bradymcphail9690
    @bradymcphail9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey man, I’ve become a real fan! I’m new to your channel, and I like how you gave a background story on the history of the style.

  • @Foxiology
    @Foxiology 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I actually think this desk would look BETTER if the legs had rusted! Imagine that beautiful rust colour with the black desk!

  • @h0bb3
    @h0bb3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Japanese woodworker for 30 years - "I'm now not a beginner at shou sugi ban"- western youtube woodworker - "I flipped the table over and now got a really good feel for the process" it's a really interesting difference in perspectives going on here IMHO :D Cool table btw :)

  • @eckress8692
    @eckress8692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really wished I had seen this video before I took the torch to my vanity top. That is truly some beautiful work. Two thumbs up. Looking forward to seeing more of your art. Thank you for sharing and the videos.

  • @ternura727
    @ternura727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This is quickly becoming one of my favorite woodworking channels, man. Keep at it!

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks man! Comments like this definitely keep me motivated to keep creating!

  • @williamwatsonjr.6332
    @williamwatsonjr.6332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice job the desk. I've got an idea about how to fill the cracks or gaps. Now i haven't tried it yet but couldn't you take some of the chard black sawdust mixed with wood glue and if need be add little black die to fill in the gaps. I don't know just a thought. Any hoot, i'm gonna give it a try later and if it works or not ill get back with and let you know.

  • @JesseHerreraMusic
    @JesseHerreraMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that you took a traditional 'outdoor technique ' and applied it to this project. Super unique and experimental, and it taught me a lot about blackening/texturing a hardwood surface. I think it has a deeper, more textured look than just painting. There's still some intrigue to the wood that you wouldn't get if you just painted it.

  • @hand_of_g0d262
    @hand_of_g0d262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's cool if they have like a set up with the led lights or "gaming set up" you could use. Wood die on it and it turns out really cool dad build dad channel shows it too. And honest opinion that side table at the end. Ock up is magnificent!

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neat idea! I'll keep that in mind for the future

  • @SilverShinepony
    @SilverShinepony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The desk looks super nice, but I believe staining the steel legs black on the grinded spots would be so much better. Maybe even apply some metal wax on it because it feels more natural that clear coat, not to mention that scratches on it won't be as noticeable

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll have to give some metal wax a shot in the future! Never worked with it before

    • @SilverShinepony
      @SilverShinepony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZacBuilds its pretty cool, works wonders on purposely rusted surfaces. I actually even used shoe wax once on my kitchen table and it worked surprisingly

  • @BlakePizzey
    @BlakePizzey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why did it take so long to find your channel. I love the way your approaching telling the story. Great filming and editing! An inspiration for my videos.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha I don't know, but I'm glad you found it now. Cheer man, appreciate the kind words!

  • @nathanpehrson3930
    @nathanpehrson3930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I comment on biscuits?
    My understanding is that the primary purpose of biscuits is to add strength to otherwise weak joints (they actually swell when glue is applied for an even stronger joint). The reason people say biscuits are only for alignment is because you don’t need the added strength of a biscuit when gluing long grain to long grain (I hope I’m remembering my terms right). So it does add strength to the joint, it’s just unnecessary strength making the primary use alignment.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I 100% agree with you. But many people say "biscuits don't add any strength" which I think is a misinterpretation of the fact and it gets parroted a lot online. So I wanted to try and clear things up, but maybe I should've been more specific.

  • @TallGuyDIY
    @TallGuyDIY 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate the simplicity of the design yet the complexity of the methods to achieve it

  • @allenherinckx4474
    @allenherinckx4474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a recommendation. Inlay the legs. It adds to the intent and can transform it to piece of furniture, rather than a nice top with legs screwed to it. Blacktail does this and adds a detail that makes his pieces stand out.

    • @vsemprivet
      @vsemprivet ปีที่แล้ว

      Excuse me, what is "inlay the legs"?

  • @trevorwalters7978
    @trevorwalters7978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the life experience advice, and of course you are quite right. The desk is functional and fits in a modern or classic environment. The odd divett , vein or gap gives it a rustic used charm that not every one likes. Its a good solid piece of work and i would mark you 8 out of ten .

  • @wilnosseck3229
    @wilnosseck3229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe what a lot of people mean by "biscuits don't add strength to a joint" is confused with "biscuits don't add as much strength as dowels". Which, I tend to agree with. You get almost equal surface area for your glue, but more rigid structure. Either way, great watch. I am new to your channel and will continue to chime with thoughts. Keep it up.

  • @arinayuuu
    @arinayuuu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the correct name is YAKISUGI (焼杉 in japanese)
    焼く: "yaku" means to burn
    杉: "sugi" is cedar
    "sho" is the onyomi pronunciation of the same character, the original Hànzì pronunciation of the character when introduced in Japan. "sho" may be used in other japanese words, but not in this case.
    板 "ita" is board, "ban" is the onyomi pronunciation. 杉板 (sugi-ita) means "cedar board​".
    but the technique name is YAKISUGI.

  • @lnxcodevideo
    @lnxcodevideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I believe the Shou Sugi Ban wasn't ever intended to be super duper finish friendly. If you take into account the fact that is was used to treat wood for outside the house. So you started with an almost impossible task to begin with. That being said, I also think that applying all those finishes to it, and coloured CA and all of that, it's not really a Shou Sugi Ban desk, it's just a desk "coloured black" in a different technique and then basically painted over and finished, which by the way in my opinion hides the Shou Sugi Ban. I can't think of anything else except some construction beams or something like that used outside, that would've really shown the Shou Sugi Ban.

    • @lauri.nordling
      @lauri.nordling ปีที่แล้ว

      "Yakisugi (焼杉, lit. 'to heat cypress with fire')" is a technique to char the wood to make it water proof, insect proof (and nearly fireproof). The desk in question is treated with yakisugi/shou sugi ban, and in addition just treated with stain and a finish. It's just like saying you car isn't painted, since there's lacquer on top!

  • @navajoninja8956
    @navajoninja8956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I really like the look of the desk. Its attention grabbing and looks very industrial which I like. But for what I do and my work flow I think this desk it too small. That being said the look is still on point.

  • @davidj.gallardo4553
    @davidj.gallardo4553 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahaha, Zac, this video is classic.... TH-cam algorithm highlights this video for me, and the first thing you say, the problem with "friends" is that they lie to you... I can be brutally honest with you.... ask away...😆 🤣 😂

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    @joeshmoe6930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "But before I tell you about that, lemme tell you about the sponsor of our video..."
    *Oh yeah!* That's what I was waitin' for!

  • @james.914
    @james.914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My friends are too honest if they tell me they like something I make I know it must be good. They’ve only liked a few things.

  • @diegovaldes8411
    @diegovaldes8411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    would've look killer with a clear epoxy pour! but given his reaction i think your friend would rather have the wood texture than the clean look of the epoxy.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd love to another one with epoxy, but we had discussed from the start we really wanted to preserve the texture above all else. It really does have any awesome feel to it as is. You can feel the natural grain as well as the crackles that come from charring.

    • @diegovaldes8411
      @diegovaldes8411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZacBuilds i totally understand, i have a desk that i left the wood texture in and finished with poly too and i gotta say, despite the stain and poly finish on top, it's very lovely to feel the wood texture while using it!

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@diegovaldes8411 I spend a lot of time just feeling the grain of my desk absent mindly while I worked and think too

  • @sylvaind.6786
    @sylvaind.6786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Biscuits in long-grain to long-grain joint add as much strength as a water drop increases the sea level.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I assume it would probably be exactly proportional to the increase in surface area.

  • @chefbennyj
    @chefbennyj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yup! He did it again... Something awesome! Geesh! 😂👍

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Benjamin!

  • @alduinc
    @alduinc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It looks great. Just wanted to know, does burning the desk really make a huge difference considering you still used a black finish? What would the difference be if i just use the minwax without doing the shou sugi ban?

  • @mychael6659
    @mychael6659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The piece looks fantastic, but I would say it's more SSB "inspired" as opposed to a SSB piece. It needs to be charred pretty deeply to be considered SSB. I did learn some things watching this video, you did a great job collectively.

  • @oldsoul5263
    @oldsoul5263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Patina by vinegar is something I'm fond of.... black on black .... swwweeeeet!

  • @MichaelThompson-ne3ij
    @MichaelThompson-ne3ij 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed the video and am planning a similar project. One technique I discovered years ago from a woodworking magazine was called ebonizing. Wood with a consistent natural pigment can be turned black with a subtle metal glitter by painting on a metal acid mixture. Red oak is usually very good while pine often doesn't change colour at all. You make the solution by steeping steel wool in white vinegar for 24 hours. Remove obvious steel wool and apply the clear mixture to the wood. It will turn black very quickly. Let dry for a day and coat with your favourite finish. I found that any light splotching from inconsistant pigment can be repaired with your same black Minwax .

  • @TheAnimystro
    @TheAnimystro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The desk top is really nice, 10/10, but I think you should have painted the legs, the grinded areas really show through and it's not great. Seen a few of your vids now, just subscribed :)

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hear you, and I offered to paint them for Robin but he loved the unfinished look and frankly I kind of do too. It's a style, but obviously not one thats for everyone.

  • @GetSquarewTomJolley
    @GetSquarewTomJolley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the first video I’ve seen from you. The title “your friends lied to you” convinced me to click on it. Your comment “idiots on TH-cam” made me laugh out loud and immediately SUBSCRIBE! 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

  • @SpencleyDesignCo
    @SpencleyDesignCo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done, Zac! I've never tried burning a table, but I did try dyeing some red oak a pure black and it was a huge pain! Can't wait for the next one

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd really love to do this again and sand back the char because the oak underneath the char turned this really cool purple red color. But ya if you want pure black I highly recommend this minwax stain, I think it'd do a great job on non burnt red oak too

  • @RescuedWoodCo
    @RescuedWoodCo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an amazing build Zac! Love the breakdown.

  • @BuxTruxNTiddyFux
    @BuxTruxNTiddyFux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so glad you addressed the "project" pronunciation. I always knew why you pronounce it that way, but I'm British and by God did it bug me 😂

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just wait until you hear how I say aluminum 😂

    • @BuxTruxNTiddyFux
      @BuxTruxNTiddyFux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZacBuilds ah I'm used to that and there's a fair argument for that pronunciation. Buoy is the worst one 🤮 haha

  • @areebahmad2667
    @areebahmad2667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The table is awesome but the legs could be improved, the legs finish is very uneven from the factory u could have sanded the legs first and then finished it with clear coat. I think it would look nicer. + u do say project weird. 🤣

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was actually a discussion that Robin and I had, but he really dug the rough industrial vibe of the unfinished legs and that's why we left them as is with just a clear coat to prevent any corrosion

  • @ScottWalshWoodworking
    @ScottWalshWoodworking 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude! How have I not come across your channel before?! Super stoked there's someone making woodworking youtube vids in my city! Looking forward to more!

  • @shadowawaits1
    @shadowawaits1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have started doing some Shou Sugi ban at home for my gardening boxes and outside platforms! I never even thought about making some interior stuff!! The project looks soo nice, would had loved to see some way or addon you could had put to 'hide the computer cords or put an inside power station. GOOD JOB I am happy I found your channel!! =D

  • @A.Mere.Creator
    @A.Mere.Creator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The link to your Instagram in the description leads to a dead end, just a heads up :)

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh crap, better fix that! Thanks for the heads up

  • @Kcustom216
    @Kcustom216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    BISCUITS DO NOT add strength! I ate them for a month and my bench press decreased 😫

  • @happosaai
    @happosaai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's an AMAZING desk and I'm now even more interested in doing some Shou Sugi Ban myself!

  • @ardemus
    @ardemus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a very attractive final result, and I think you did a good job finding a compromise between the time and materials it would take to figure out a pure technique, and faking the last few percent to get the look you wanted. That said, my gut says that you were on the right path by preheating the wood evenly, and patiently flipping the board, even if it wasn't charring at first. I'm confident that a large portion of the warping and cupping is from driving the moisture out of the wood, so heating both sides gradually toward a char seems like a good plan. I also expect that the more moisture you drive out of the wood the less temperature you'll need to start the char, and the deeper and blacker the resulting char will be. Part of me wants to experiment with the procedure on different woods to see, it might even make a good video.

  • @jonathanshin7558
    @jonathanshin7558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that your first point on praise is so true in all creative fields!

  • @1320crusier
    @1320crusier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr Chickadee is the channel to go to for modern building with Shou Sugi Ban

  • @christophermorin9036
    @christophermorin9036 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else find yourself subconsciously blowing the saw dust off the....video?
    ALSO, real time. Nice Desk, but the floor under it looks more authentic than the desk itself.

  • @tsabito
    @tsabito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In a few words: I gonna build THAT!

  • @encodedlife
    @encodedlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I might be a purist, but to me the fact you applied coating on your desk would, by itself, void the Shou Sugi Ban claims. And you also stained it to achieve a deeper black…. This is a nice black desk, no Shou Sugi Ban to my eyes. I love your work and the video was super well made. Cheers from Canada.

  • @bakerfmly
    @bakerfmly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This just solidified my desire to make a desk like this. now to get a blow torch...

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're gonna have a great time! I think I linked the I used in the video description, it was cheap on Amazon and got the job done

  • @keithgarcia5554
    @keithgarcia5554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is my first time on here and I like what I see. That desk came out beautiful. Hope to see more of ur videos.

  • @SuperNovaSirius
    @SuperNovaSirius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it super funny that the technique is to make the wood water resistent and black, and you put it under a layer of black oil and 7 layers of acrylic. :'D But it looks really good and that gap in the back is way more stylish than a cable hole.

  • @zibzer
    @zibzer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks great. Good job!
    You asked for constructive feedback, and you did a great job so this is nit-picky, but one thing to think about is a lesser angle chamfer at the bottom. Or less chamfer altogether, or failing that a skirt around the underside because the top looks thin.
    You have that beautiful 8/4 red oak but the chamfer makes it look like a small 4/4 top bolted onto huge legs.

  • @alexfoxleigh9443
    @alexfoxleigh9443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made a similar desktop to this but instead of charring the wood jet black, I just used the burning process to exaggerate the grain of the wood. Then I stained and finished it. The end result looks like the desktop was made 100 years ago and I love it. Sadly I didn't have any time to make legs so I just bought some from our local DIY store and they let the desk down bigtime but hey, that's a project for another day :)

  • @BJHicks
    @BJHicks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the desk turned out amazing zac. picked up a new follower my friend. im excited to see more

  • @jasonhilliker492
    @jasonhilliker492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The desk turned out amazing. One thing that you might consider for the next one is to inset the legs.

  • @GOATprod2020
    @GOATprod2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one thing I would add to the desk is some sort of cable management cradle and passthrough to the table legs would make the setup waaaaaaay much cleaner look.

  • @albertj2459
    @albertj2459 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first video that I've seen on your channel. That being said, I'm impressed first of all, they you researched and gave us a history lesson on Shou Sugi Ban. The amount of information about the build process didn't feel overwhelming, but gave the video a nice flow. And, the table top came out looking great! (I'm not too impressed with the table legs though. I hope he didn't pay too much for them. That style is pretty easy to make. )

  • @derrickharris7306
    @derrickharris7306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No rust on legs, modern is beautiful and I love the shou sugi ban look. Used it on an outdoor walk way and it has last for years. Plus...no maintenance. LOL.

  • @little_records
    @little_records 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd have liked the table flipped around, so the bevel is facing down, that's just personal preference. But, from another perspective, I love ALL the effort having gone into it, all that effort gives that personal touch :)

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I'm a bit confused though, because the bevel is facing down on the final desk. I just cut it upside down.

  • @erins.5420
    @erins.5420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stop caring about what anonymous people think!! You’re a great personality with great content! The only opinions or criticisms that should matter are the ones you know what their face looks like and individually have a direct impact on your life. Loved the desk!

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great advice and thank you for kind words!

  • @BKRcustommotorbikes
    @BKRcustommotorbikes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    omg that desk is stunning :)

  • @donnawalker3910
    @donnawalker3910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gorgeous!

  • @fallingteepee
    @fallingteepee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, this desk just went on the short list my potential DIY desks. Nice.

  • @AlbertNoffsinger
    @AlbertNoffsinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great project video, liked seeing the challenges and how you over came them. That colored CA glue was a great solution on the fly.

  • @PandaKnivesRo
    @PandaKnivesRo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The desk looks really cool! I also want to build a desk like this for myself, so thank you for some ideas, mate! :D

  • @wstein70
    @wstein70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did a similar desk for my wife's home office. I used black India ink to dye it black instead of the shou shugi ban. I found that shou shugi ban weakens any glue joints by partially melting the glue. You could have also used a desk pad for the keyboard/mouse so you didn't have to apply so many top coats and you would have been able to keep the natural wood feel versus the plastic feel you get from so many coats of finish. So if your looking for that black out effect, try India Ink next time. Outside of that, good video and some good ideals and tips.

  • @christophersmith8014
    @christophersmith8014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did a good job getting a decent end result. It's hard to keep a flat surface when the cellulose is off gassing and burning so much faster than the lignin.
    The last time I had to make a floor pure black for a customer I tinted the clear finish coat with some of the black tinting dye from the paint store (I just asked for some and they gave me a couple ounces in a paper cup). It worked far better than the stain (and I had also stained it as dark as it could go) because it evenly covered the surface with a transparent sheet of color rather than needing to soak in.

  • @killkrazy9913
    @killkrazy9913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've done this process with softer woods. it is awesome when you burn enough to bring out the hard grain of the wood. Then you hit it with a plastic wire wheel to expose the soft grain and true wood color. The hard grain will hold the black after wire wheeling. And if its not enough texture or grain isnt dark enough burn again. After getting it to the texture and burn level you want hit it with Keda Dye. I personally love using Keda Dye and it also depends on the type of wood you are using. It enhances the reflectivity of the grain.
    I like the desk a lot. Though just looks like you painted it black. I do like how there is texture to it. In the lighting you can see ALOT of texture and it is eye catching.

  • @suthwaa
    @suthwaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the finished product. Simple and sleek and fits the room very well. You have given me a few ideas for how to handle some of the issues I face with my projects too so thanks for that. :)

  • @RemarkableWoodworks
    @RemarkableWoodworks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Project - praject 🤣🤣🤣🤣 turned out amazing man!

  • @FIREBLAYZAR
    @FIREBLAYZAR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I don't want to be at my friends house too long because it's covid times." Omg, I had to laugh!!!

  • @FireCrowsWorkshop
    @FireCrowsWorkshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since black is one of my favourite colours, I love the desk! But not only the rich colour, if we can say that about black, I love how you can see the grain! Unfortunately the legs are butt ugly. Could it be that by pre-finished they meant there was a thin film of protective oil on it? They definitely weren't blued. But if there was oil on it, then you'd have really bad time applying any kind of finish to them, unless you wiped them very well with some kind of solvent first. I'm waiting to see your improved metal building skills, don't be afraid to experiment with different shapes!

  • @guitarplayer4life17
    @guitarplayer4life17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Willing to have this in my home when I move in a few months. I will definitely be building one for myself. Thanks for sharing!

  • @dawnhill1950
    @dawnhill1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd happily have that in my home. I absolutely adore that finish.

  • @ewan2mackinnon73
    @ewan2mackinnon73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They say feedback is a gift, first time viewer of your work and now subscribed.

  • @tn8584
    @tn8584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the history bit about wood burning. Great desk. Cheers fro NZ

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @RealRickCox
    @RealRickCox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The finish came out beautifully!! Loved the angles you put on the edges. Personally, I'd have built something with drawers but it seems like the decor in it's final spot was more suited to something very clean and simple. Nice work.

  • @donnygrahambuilds
    @donnygrahambuilds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey man - this was an awesome video! I've seen a ton of builds using shou shugi ban technique, and this is the first one where someone actually dove into the process and give some solid feedback what went well and what didnt. I subscribed about a month ago, and have really been enjoying the channel! I like your approach to creating videos and some of your design styles. Looking to incorporate some of those characteristics those into my own channel! Keep em comin man!

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Donny! You raise a good point and it's something that I set out to do with my channel when I first started it. I want to include all of the challenges and mistakes I make along the way, so people can see the whole process and learn from it. I think a lot of creators leave that stuff out in the interest of keeping their videos as short and punchy as possible, but like so many things the devils in the details.

  • @rikmorel4870
    @rikmorel4870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great desk - great technique tips. As for the design, I think a simple box underneath with an optional fold down door, maybe 3 inches or so for papers, pencils etc. I typically like a more substantial top than just a slab.

  • @angryzombie8088
    @angryzombie8088 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Sugarcoat: The beauty of Yakisugi to me personally is that they accentuate the wood grain that creates contrast in term of texture & colours. Some people would use different grit of sandpaper or brush for that contrast.
    With an all black table like that I wont bother doing Yakisugi at all. Just black stain, PU & sanding in between coats.
    I like the design & the level of care given building it.

  • @daniellegault4758
    @daniellegault4758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a three monitor system like mine, that would not do, plus you need to add a layer of some kind to support the desktop computer. It must not touch the ground. the best place to put it would be under the table midway for the wires to reach every item. You also need a printer table to allow for a laser printer that can be easily loaded with paper and ink ... Epoxy. Table twice as deep at least and probably twice as large. And why not some drawer for stationaries ... Here you have it. I would pay for such a new design! 👍

    • @61spindrift
      @61spindrift 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      too small for mine as well. I have 10.

  • @starfishey2
    @starfishey2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your friend doesn't just have a black aesthetic going on, he has an ikea aesthetic going on! No shade to that, just something I noticed. :) As for the desk itself and it being true to Shou Sugi Ban.. I don't know anything about the techniques themselves so please correct me but does adding the poly finish totally negate the flammability resistance from torching it? I think it looks great though! Nice work Zac.

    • @jeremymarktaylor
      @jeremymarktaylor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are correct. The style is also supposed to be completely chard. For a desk you would cover it in epoxy