I followed Wes’s instruction for the cerise and the piece came out beautifully! I’m so proud of it. It’s going into the newly remodeled bathroom. Thank you, Wes, for the great video!
i had a house fire, so all i did was wire brush the remaining wood, sprayed paint on it, sanded it and threw on the top coat. I got the best looking rubble on the block! Thanks Wes!
I really like how that turned out. I've been doing the burnt grain and stain finish for a while now. One day after finding out I was out of polyurethane, I used some spray shellac I had. That's all I use for that now. The shellac makes the colors really stand out. Definitely going to try this process. Saving this video to my Stain and Finishing playlist. Thank you for the video.
This was just what I was looking for! I live in Japan and loved seeing the Shou Sugi Ban effect and aesthetic on outdoor treatments. I worried it would be too much for indoors. The cerusing combo is perfect! By the way, the three words mean “burned cypress board and the last is pronounced “Bahn ” like autobahn.
@@manoweb1 Interesting note: both are used but it is derived from the exact same kanji, but the popular pronunciation (and thus used like crazy on you tube) is the mistaken pronunciation. That’s the funny thing about language...the junk mistakes prove to be catchy and take over. I live in Japan and talk daily with Japanese carpenters. Both versions are widely used but the “ban” version is favored as they are talking about this or that board that is/are actually at hand. Wood identification/stock or shop talk: yakisugi is the winner. Just my 2 yen...
Great video Wes. I'm a fan of both the techniques you used as examples in this video. I use primarily the same technique for producing 'tortured-materials' to build with for various projects. I use most soft woods; pines, douglas fur, ceder, and as for hard woods, I prefer white oak and hickory. I know hickory doesn't receive much recognition apart from furniture and cabinet-inards, but the scorching process really gives it character and depth that it doesn't have naturally, similar to the white oak. I love your teaching style.😎
Loving this. When sanding Shou shugi ban, I usually use a series of steel wool 0-000 to sand with whites and lighter tones. Sand paper takes off too much char too quickly IMO. There's a TH-camr called Inspired Woodcraft that has a good video covering sanding white shou shugi ban. Cheers!
Very cool, Wes! It’s great to visit your shop and watch you experiment and demonstrate. That’s how clever innovations come about. Raising my morning cuppa joe to you, sir.
hello, can you tell me more about the products you use? what kind are they chimically? terms are not always the same in europe... for exemple what you call clear coat is it polyurethane? primer? glaze? it would be cool to do a video describing differences between products, which ones are compatible or not, technical caracteristics and uses... thanks
I used a quick water soak then pressure washer to take out the soft wood and it brought the grain right out like this, just as deep. Love experimenting! Inspire woodcraft also does burning then stain.
Question: I’ve got dark stain oak cabinets. Should I remove the stain first and it’s finished with a stain remover, before I paint it into a ceruse pattern? OR, can I just wire brush the cabinet, and it keep the base of stain color and then white spray paint it to then sand and get the ceruse affect that way?
Wow, this experiment resulted in a beautiful piece of wood. I just finished a “Jack and Jill” bench (plain and poly), but really want to get into some new finishes that make the grain pop and just make the customers have a hard time deciding which ones to buy.
Thank you for watching. I have found a great product line you might be interested in. Here is a link to that video: th-cam.com/video/kZDk0CBRS3I/w-d-xo.html Wes
Would it work to either stain or even ebonize then paint and sand instead of burning? I have gotten a dark black brushing on diluted tannic acid, letting it dry, then brushing on homemade iron acetate. Looks dark as burning without all the effort.
I think you can skip the initial texturing step, and just do the Burn first. This in effect will provide a useable texture after brushing the burn. The burn will provide a dark stain in the grain, so you wont have to 'seal and glaze'. You can just do a light stain, and then sand to reveal the dark burned grain. Then clear lacquer as usual. So youre basically replacing a layer of dark glaze and the texturing step, with the burn step. Same, but different. My only advise with the burning method, is that your particular wood may "cup" as it burns, so depending on the wood used, your mileage may vary. Also, i would avoid using a sanding 'sponge' as it reaches too deeply into the grain and may reveal too much dark grain. I'd use a dark sanding block to just knock off the white stain from the peaks.
I love all of your videos! I'm going to be doing the ceruseing on my oak floors but I wanted to know what grit of nylon wheel sander you use to get such beautiful outcomes?
I like that. I have pine white washed crown molding, doors and trim around my kitchen and birch cupboards that we need to make doors for. I like the Shou Sugi Ban but wasn't sure how it would look with the crown molding, but I think you just found the right combination for me. We stained the base cupboards and the first coat looked great, put the second coat of stain on and I don't like it at all. We need to sand them down and either re-stain or paint them. I'm thinking if we stained it chocolate brown, black or charcoal gray and did the Shou Sugi Ban on the doors, using a very plain wood plank door and then a white wash over the Shou Sugi Ban. Any suggestions? So glad you did the experiment, Thanks!
Personally, I still like the cerusing more. I'm going to do my old oak dresser with cerusing. I'm just having a tough time making up my mind on colors.
Interesting stuff Wes! Many years ago (around 40 now) I did a similar thing to my exposed Oregon beams in the new extension I added to the house. It created a pleasing grain contrast and looked trendy back then ;) not so sure about it today though. LoL Anyway I really wanted to ask if you could get your hands on some Blackwood cabinet doors and see how that harder dark wood might turn out Wes.
Hi Wes, great video. I liked some kitchen cabinets that I saw online in a model home. It seems like a different finish than I have ever seen anywher before. Is there a way you can take a look and maybe guide me to a manufacturer that does. I couldn't find who made them.
It may have helped igniting the surface. But you are probably correct (little difference) sure looks like a lot of work. Especially if it’s on a large project.
The wire brush leaves behind a texture for the primer to go into. If you sand the shou sugi ban the texture will disappear and you will have a nice smooth feel. The fire tightens the grain to a harder finish (molecular transformation) and sanding will act like burnishing. I hope I have explained that clearly.
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I followed Wes’s instruction for the cerise and the piece came out beautifully! I’m so proud of it. It’s going into the newly remodeled bathroom. Thank you, Wes, for the great video!
i had a house fire, so all i did was wire brush the remaining wood, sprayed paint on it, sanded it and threw on the top coat. I got the best looking rubble on the block! Thanks Wes!
I really like how that turned out. I've been doing the burnt grain and stain finish for a while now. One day after finding out I was out of polyurethane, I used some spray shellac I had. That's all I use for that now. The shellac makes the colors really stand out. Definitely going to try this process. Saving this video to my Stain and Finishing playlist. Thank you for the video.
Wow I love this combo of the shou sugi ban & cerusing!!!! What a wonderful unique idea!
This was just what I was looking for! I live in Japan and loved seeing the Shou Sugi Ban effect and aesthetic on outdoor treatments. I worried it would be too much for indoors. The cerusing
combo is perfect! By the way, the three words mean “burned cypress board and the last is pronounced “Bahn ” like autobahn.
Hi Deborah...so glad this video answers your concern. Thank you very much for visiting and good luck! Wes
well..... it's actually called Yakisugi, not the internet's interpretation shou sugi ban
@@manoweb1 Interesting note: both are used but it is derived from the exact same kanji, but the popular pronunciation (and thus used like crazy on you tube) is the mistaken pronunciation. That’s the funny thing about language...the junk mistakes prove to be catchy and take over. I live in Japan and talk daily with Japanese carpenters. Both versions are widely used but the “ban” version is favored as they are talking about this or that board that is/are actually at hand. Wood identification/stock or shop talk: yakisugi is the winner. Just my 2 yen...
Great experiment that I think turned out great. I'm glad you tried it and shared your experience with us. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Wes
Great video Wes. I'm a fan of both the techniques you used as examples in this video. I use primarily the same technique for producing 'tortured-materials' to build with for various projects. I use most soft woods; pines, douglas fur, ceder, and as for hard woods, I prefer white oak and hickory. I know hickory doesn't receive much recognition apart from furniture and cabinet-inards, but the scorching process really gives it character and depth that it doesn't have naturally, similar to the white oak. I love your teaching style.😎
Thank you for a nice comment...sounds like you do great work! Wes
@scottbionicnerf8727 I have A LOT of hickory cabinets to refinish in my near future. Would love to see pics of how the hickory turned out.
Loving this. When sanding Shou shugi ban, I usually use a series of steel wool 0-000 to sand with whites and lighter tones. Sand paper takes off too much char too quickly IMO. There's a TH-camr called Inspired Woodcraft that has a good video covering sanding white shou shugi ban. Cheers!
Great tip!
Very cool, Wes! It’s great to visit your shop and watch you experiment and demonstrate. That’s how clever innovations come about. Raising my morning cuppa joe to you, sir.
Great variation Wes. Will definitely try this.
Glad you enjoyed the video...good luck with your project. Wes
Wow I really like that finish, thanks for sharing Wes!
Thank you Joey for watching.
what about squeegeeing the wet paint to drive it into the grain more and leave less on top to sand back... might help the contrast.
Gives a nice weathered barn wood look withe the texturing.
I agree...and it was fun to do! Thanks for your visit. Wes
hello, can you tell me more about the products you use? what kind are they chimically? terms are not always the same in europe...
for exemple what you call clear coat is it polyurethane? primer? glaze? it would be cool to do a video describing differences between products, which ones are compatible or not, technical caracteristics and uses...
thanks
I used a quick water soak then pressure washer to take out the soft wood and it brought the grain right out like this, just as deep. Love experimenting! Inspire woodcraft also does burning then stain.
Thats great! Thanks for your comment. Wes
I am very happy to have found your videos.
Glad you like them!
Great job. This technique works really well on that heavy flat-sawn oak grain. Thanks for vid.
You bet...thank you for your visit and comment. Wes
Squeegee the wet paint and save a lot of work, just fill the low spots.
Question: I’ve got dark stain oak cabinets. Should I remove the stain first and it’s finished with a stain remover, before I paint it into a ceruse pattern? OR, can I just wire brush the cabinet, and it keep the base of stain color and then white spray paint it to then sand and get the ceruse affect that way?
Wow, this experiment resulted in a beautiful piece of wood. I just finished a “Jack and Jill” bench (plain and poly), but really want to get into some new finishes that make the grain pop and just make the customers have a hard time deciding which ones to buy.
Thank you for watching. I have found a great product line you might be interested in. Here is a link to that video:
th-cam.com/video/kZDk0CBRS3I/w-d-xo.html
Wes
I'm trying to do a soft wood beam in yr ceruse white with black but cannot seem to find the write paint in the UK
I did this with rustolum spay paint and it turned out great
Thats great...thanks for sharing. Wes
Another wonderful video Wes! I would love to get a Makita Wheel Sander, but the price of the replacement brushes is insanely high.
Do you thin out your paint in the gravity gun and how much?
I love watching your videos, hopefully one day I can try this on something.
You should...go for it when you can. 😃
Would it work to either stain or even ebonize then paint and sand instead of burning? I have gotten a dark black brushing on diluted tannic acid, letting it dry, then brushing on homemade iron acetate. Looks dark as burning without all the effort.
I think you can skip the initial texturing step, and just do the Burn first. This in effect will provide a useable texture after brushing the burn. The burn will provide a dark stain in the grain, so you wont have to 'seal and glaze'. You can just do a light stain, and then sand to reveal the dark burned grain. Then clear lacquer as usual.
So youre basically replacing a layer of dark glaze and the texturing step, with the burn step. Same, but different.
My only advise with the burning method, is that your particular wood may "cup" as it burns, so depending on the wood used, your mileage may vary.
Also, i would avoid using a sanding 'sponge' as it reaches too deeply into the grain and may reveal too much dark grain. I'd use a dark sanding block to just knock off the white stain from the peaks.
Great! Looks simple enough to tackle.
Josiah...glad you enjoyed the video. It was fun to do...I am sure you would have great results. Thank you.
You could also do a light burn just to bring out the grain then paint
Great idea...thanks !
Hi Wes! Can pine be finished with a ceruse finish and have a great outcome?
I love all of your videos! I'm going to be doing the ceruseing on my oak floors but I wanted to know what grit of nylon wheel sander you use to get such beautiful outcomes?
I've done some pine, nice and soft wood for sugi ban, Redwood works too believe it or not, comes out better just takes longer.
That's good information...thank you!! Wes
I like that. I have pine white washed crown molding, doors and trim around my kitchen and birch cupboards that we need to make doors for. I like the Shou Sugi Ban but wasn't sure how it would look with the crown molding, but I think you just found the right combination for me. We stained the base cupboards and the first coat looked great, put the second coat of stain on and I don't like it at all. We need to sand them down and either re-stain or paint them. I'm thinking if we stained it chocolate brown, black or charcoal gray and did the Shou Sugi Ban on the doors, using a very plain wood plank door and then a white wash over the Shou Sugi Ban. Any suggestions? So glad you did the experiment, Thanks!
I would suggest to always try a test sample first and it sounds like you are doing great. Thanks for visiting. Wes
I like it but I’m wondering if you would have used diluted paint or glaze if you would need less elbow grease. Maybe for another tutorial.😉
Good thought...that sounds like an opportunity for another video. Thank you for your comment and visiting my channel. Wes
Great video! I thought no top coat can be applied over Rubio hard wax.
GREAT WORK AND CRAFTSMANSHIP !!!!!
Thank you very much...it was a fun experiment. I appreciate you watching. Wes
Awesome project Wes. Thanks
Thank you for watching...I appreciate your comment and support.
Personally, I still like the cerusing more. I'm going to do my old oak dresser with cerusing. I'm just having a tough time making up my mind on colors.
I was looking for this video thx
Glad it was helpful...thanks for watching. Wes
What if you don't sand so much and only have some black grain show and mostly remains white or grey.
Interesting stuff Wes! Many years ago (around 40 now) I did a similar thing to my exposed Oregon beams in the new extension I added to the house. It created a pleasing grain contrast and looked trendy back then ;) not so sure about it today though. LoL
Anyway I really wanted to ask if you could get your hands on some Blackwood cabinet doors and see how that harder dark wood might turn out Wes.
Hi Mark...that's a great story. I will keep my eyes open for some Blackwood doors. Thanks for visiting. Wes
I live in UK cannot get any paint that gives me the same effecy
Great job.
Would you do that on the old oak cupboards or stick with just the Ceruse?
I would just stick with the ceruse process. Thanks for watching. Wes
What spray gun system do you use? Thanks.
I bought an inexpensive gravity gun from my big box store and it works great. Thanks for watching...Wes
Do other primer colors besides white work as well?
Yes...there are lots of choices out there. Thanks for watching...Wes
this is exactly what i'm doing for an extensive remodel we're on :)
Great...good luck! Wes
I love it
Hi Wes, great video. I liked some kitchen cabinets that I saw online in a model home. It seems like a different finish than I have ever seen anywher before. Is there a way you can take a look and maybe guide me to a manufacturer that does. I couldn't find who made them.
I would suggest contacting the builder of the home. Sorry I have no way of helping you further.
@@WoodworkingWithWes quiter!
I love it your video!!!!!!!
Thank you very much for your comment...glad you liked it. Wes
Looks great, but I suspect the pre-treatment with the $600 machine and brush contributed little, if anything, to the final result.
Thanks for watching. Wes
It may have helped igniting the surface. But you are probably correct (little difference) sure looks like a lot of work. Especially if it’s on a large project.
Why can't you use a sander instead of a wire brush?
The wire brush leaves behind a texture for the primer to go into. If you sand the shou sugi ban the texture will disappear and you will have a nice smooth feel. The fire tightens the grain to a harder finish (molecular transformation) and sanding will act like burnishing. I hope I have explained that clearly.
you kids, always looking for a shortcut
I instinctively blew on my phone trying to blow off the flame once it started to burn 😑
Haha 😃
Yeah, and that wheel sander costs $619.00, I'd be shopping for other alternatives before spending that much.
Keep watching...we are working on other alternatives. Thanks, Wes
We like Wes
Thank you !!!
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Looks like old barn wood
It is spelled Ban but its pronounced Bon.
Look after your lungs!!!! 😳
Its hard to talk and be understood in a video with a mask on.. Thanks for your concern..
Wes has an excellent cross flow ventilation system that pulls all the dust fumes an anything else 5hat may be harmful. He states in most of his videos that he normally would wear a respirator but it then would be difficult to hear him.
With that being said, you are correct that people trying this at home should not experiment with their lungs, long term effects could be as bad or worse than smoking.(Wes knows the risk but others viewing may not know the danger ⚠️ ⚠️ ⚠️ ⚠️