How To Install the Daniel Defense RIS III Handguard
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ธ.ค. 2022
- "Brownells Gun Tech™ Caleb Savant is at the bench to show us how to install Daniel Defense's RIS III Handguard, one of their Rail Interface System M-LOK® handguards for the AR-15. The RIS III uses the Daniel Defense SIX-bolt lockup system for securing the handguard to the receiver.
Tools you'll need: (1) Daniel Defense barrel nut wrench and (2) the hex wrenches that come with the RIS III, plus (3) Midwest Industries Upper Receiver Rod or a similar vise block to anchor the upper securely in the (4) bench vise, (5) adjustable torque wrench, and (6) Brownells Action Lube Plus® or similar grease. The RIS III is designed to fit a standard mil-spec AR-15 upper. It will work on billet uppers that have the necessary cutouts at the front (Caleb shows us).
Clamp the upper in the vise via the MI receiver rod. Put a little Action Lube Plus® on the outside of the barrel extension to help you slip it into the receiver. Slide the handguard bracket over the barrel and against the receiver. Put a little grease on the threads of the barrel nut and install it on the receiver, hand tightening it as far as you can. Use the barrel nut wrench and torque driver set to 35 ft.-lbs. to tighten the barrel nut. Install the gas block / gas tube.
Slide the RIS III over the barrel up against the bracket, anchoring it with the six screws. The two SHORTER screws go on the bottom of the handguard. Daniel Defense includes a hex wrench for these screws, but using a ball-tip wrench will make the chore way easier. Make each screw snug, but don't fully torque them down until they're all snugged on. There should be NO gaps between the rear of the handguard and the bracket. Now, install the bottom panel of the handguard. Bonus: you can use a slot, hex, or Torx® head driver to tighten the screws that retain the bottom panel.
When you're done, the Daniel Defense RIS III brings a new meaning to the concept of a ""rock solid"" M-LOK® AR-15 handguard installation!
NOTE: Products in this video are to be used only for lawful purposes, including hunting, self-defense, and competitive or recreational shooting. If you purchase any of them, you are responsible for understanding and complying with all federal, state, and local laws that apply to the purchase, possession, and use of these products." - กีฬา
I need Brownells to make a video on how to save up for a RIS handguard
You're in luck because it doesn't do anything that a $80 handguard can't do. And even if it could you would never be doing those things
The only Advantage the RIS has over other Mlok free float hanguards is that the bottom is removable. This facilitates the use of a barrel mounted M203 grenade launcher. So unless you plan on using one of those too or simply trying to clone a military build, it's really not worth it.
@@timrobinson6573 it can mount a barrel-mounting M203, so not true.
however, unless you spend $10k on night vision, most ARs are far more capable than their owners setups. And by most I mean like 87% of all ARs are hilariously overcapable.
Not a bad thing, but the "you don't need X" is really in the eye of the beholder.
@@timrobinson6573 You get what you pay for.
@@georgelambo5145 That's just something uninformed people mindlessly repeat to justify their ignorance. Aluminum extrusion, CNC and computerization have revolutionized manufacturing in the last decade or two. Even the 'cheap' handguards are being made with the EXACT same aluminum as the expensive ones, this company is not getting some special one-of-a-kind aluminum. The machines they use to make the parts are the EXACT same machines with the EXACT same software programs. How many aluminum extrusion machines and software programs do you think exist for this type of manufacturing? Use your brain next time instead of rattling off some tired old saying like a mindless fool. Your comment added nothing to the conversation, it is truly a mindless meaningless statement that you put forth with no forethought. You just typed it out like a robot.
We need a detailed video like this on how Caleb does his hair!
Action lube.
🤣😂
Straight out of the 1950s.
He's a Dapper Dan man!
The RIS III is the only thing I'm missing in my life. Please Brownells, bless me with a RIS III!
Edit: RIS III shipped and will be here Wednesday
When were you able to get one?
Bruh how?
@@mathyus5979 T&K Outdoors had them in stock. They still have a black 12.5 as of the time of this post.
@@Equilibrandt T&K Outdoors had them in stock. They still have a black 12.5 as of the time of this post.
Rooftop defense has them in stock for $400 with code "gobblerail"
Brownell's needs to make a video of how to keep things in stock.
And then they need to watch it...
@@huffthomas1 OMG you are not kidding. LOL I miss out on great deals all the time. I cant imagine their profits if they were able to acquire enough of anything awesome for all of us.
Ha
If people stop buying shit, stock will be there.. lol
But then again, suppliers are only alotting set numbers of products to vendors. Brownells does not get to choose how much product they get from their suppliers. In most cases anywho..
They need to watch a video on marketing. $500 in parts should get me free shipping easily haha
Fantastic step by step tutorial. Thank you!
Time for upgrading handguard. Thanks for showing it.
13:30 to 13:37 I don't know why I love this so much... BUT I REALLY love that he said it
My DD M4A1 RIII is in the mail! I'm so excited
It's just a rail... Calm yourself... BTW, don't forget to use 1 drop of Loctite (blue is best for this) on each screw. This will alleviate the possibility of the screws coming loose. Also, do not hand tighten as shown in the video. Torgue each to the same tolerances so that there is even pressure...
Awesome hand guard and video
DD RIS Rails in general are freaking bomb Proof.
Beautiful looking rail. Probably should have mentioned that the 6 bolt plate will mate up to the mounting plate of the older RIS rails. If someone has an older RIS quad rail they can unbolt the old one and put on the new Mlok model without having to pull the barrel.
@@jessewrigley5664 DD has said you can upgrade from the old RIS II to the III.
@@jessewrigley5664 the new hand guard come with new mounting hardware to use.
@@jessewrigley5664 If you are a Daniel Defense employee, you may not want to insult potential customers. I’m sure DD wouldn’t take kindly to that. And per Chisum Kirby stated and I quote “ if you have a MK 18 with a picatini ris ii you can direct replace this rail without messing with your barrel nut.” This was Shot show 2022
@@heykat18design can change from shot show to now. Happens all the time
@@nfaisnfgay thanks for a response that doesn’t insult in the process. Something a so called Daniel Defense employee could do.
great video.
Nice AT4 in the background
Great!
QUAD SQUAD FOR LIFE !
I wisIh could have one of these.... so nice
".....we're not using a grenade launcher here today ..... so we're going to go ahead and mount the bottom plate to the handguard ......."
Yes, that’s exactly what I want on my MLOK handguard: more screws and more pieces.
It's ok.. it's done very well, and VERY stout. RIS III is based on the RIS II quad rail. Which the lovely Mk18 is using.
@@Antykain yeah I know it’s the new version of the MK18 handguard. But it just seems way overbuilt and overpriced, just because of its reputation.
@@lucasblanchard47 You're not wrong about it being overpriced. I'm not going to argue that one. lol. I have 2 DD uppers, one 10.3 Mk18 and a 14.5 DDM4v7. I absolutely love them, but I'm not going to sit here and say I was happy about how much I had to pay for them (even with a generous LGS discount..).
And now once my LGS gets the RIS III uppers in, I'm going to be awfully tempted to cry again.. I mean buy again. my bad. :)
That's why i prefer the geissele.
Wait - is it “overbuilt” or “overpriced” thanks hope this helps have a Great weekend 👌
How tight is the fitment between the anti-rotation tabs on the 6-bolt plate and the outside of the upper receiver? Is there a tendency for the plate to rotate clockwise as the barrel nut is tightened down, which might result in the top rail being out of line with the rail of the upper receiver?
I agree, I would like to see the tolerance on that as well.
Enjoy the great video, stay for the epic hair.
Are we going to be able to buy these standalone?
sold out of course.
Did I catch a cutaway when the gas tube didn't align with the upper? 7:31
Seems the mounting collar turns when torqued.
I think it did get turned a little
Yup I noticed it right a way. You can see it twist @7:05 😆 Wish he would of left it in because shit like that always comes up 🤬
What barrel are you using? It doesn't look like a 14.5 I'm considering a 13.7 or 13.9 with a pin and welded surefire 3 prong.
yeah i have a question ummm do they sell just the handguard?
Does the hand guard not flex a little at the front? I’m concerned about movement of the hand guard effecting the front sight.
It will move if dropped. DD really needs to reengineer their rails to have set screws on either side to prevent this. In my opinion DD rails are not reliable because of this design flaw. It should be noted that their AR10 doesn't have this issue since that rail mounts directly to the upper.
Are there any videos that show how to remove the FSP and go to a Low profile gas block?
Unfortunately no. There are no videos on TH-cam to show that
This is unrelated to this video but I have a question. I recently installed a Magpul ASAP QD end plate on my lower receiver. When I reinstalled the castle nut it kept turning the buffer tube off center. As someone with severe OCD how can I apply torque to the castle nut (I did not over tighten castle nut) without spinning the buffer tube off center so my stock isn’t canted? Help! Please and thank you.
First, make sure you used the correct spacer that is included with the ASAP (it comes with tow little rectangles that help with the rotation). If you are indeed using the correct one, extend the extension the opposite way so that when you torque it down, it moves to center, it may take a few tries to get it right but it is worth is IMO.
Wow. A 500 dollar handguard. Thats literally insane money for a handguard. I want one.
dh, or ali iykyk
Are risiii rails sold separately already?????
Wait I was always taught to tighten break tighten to higher lbs break it then tighten down a final and third time was I taught wrong?
What upper receiver is used in this video?
Is DD selling the RIS 3 rail by itself now? Want to add it to my Christmas list lol. 🎄 🎅🏼 #JakeHunter88
Can the adams arms low pro adjustable gasblock fits under that rail?
Yes it can.
So do you not need to season the threads like with other nuts?
Just pepper or chili powder
Please do another demonstration with the optional m203 installation. Lol
Does this Handguard work with a piston gas system?
When are these going to be available?
will this handguard work on and AERO upper
I’ve ever wonder about your work bench and vise. Where can I get those?
Optics Planet
Can this handguard be installed on an existing barrel/receiver, or does it have to be part of an initial build?
You can install it on an existing build. You’ll just have to take everything apart first.
Caleb, does the gas block need pushed against the barrel shoulder, or leave a .030" gap for gas port alignment?
I heard a .030" gap was meant for older handguards using end caps.
Just make sure the dimple on the barrel is aligned with the front screw of the gas block.
If your barrel was dimpled correctly using a jig, then the dimple will be indexed off of the gas port and will guarantee that your gas block is aligned. I’ve seen some slight variations in how far off the block stands from the shoulder, but aligning with the dimple is the easiest way to guarantee alignment.
i would assume most companies would always drill gas port at same spacing, because they don't know how the end user would be assembling. from my experience, i have needed the gap. The first upper i built from scratch, i didn't and it short stroked. ran perfect after i reset it with a credit card.
@@bettycocker2226i've never left a gap and haven't had any issues. I've bought barrels from Faxon that Faxon dimpled at the factory and they didn't leave a gap for the gas block. I also have a BA barrel that BA pinned the lo pro gas block at the factory and there is no gap.
you use blue or red lock-tight and at what ratio with 10-40W oil….?
Use blue. Red is higher strength but high temps can release the bond of loctite (that’s how you release red loctite is with high temp) and rapid semi-auto fire causes a lot of high temp. So honestly red loctite would just be a waste of money in this application.
Caleb, does the 12.5" rail work with rifle-length gas front sight blocks? Maybe a bit of an esoteric pairing I guess, but I couldn't easily find the answer.
doubtful.
@@bettycocker2226 Thanks
actually, after some reading i think it might. guys are saying 12 inch rails leave about 9/16th's between your fsb and rail. i think you could pull it off. Maybe thats why they made it a 12.5 rail.
yeah, midwest makes a 12.65 exactly for free floating with an FSB.
Does the RIS give you Rizz... I think not
Nice presentation Caleb 👍
The two piece rail from a 1 piece in the last gen seems like a step backwards to me.
As what I was taught, you should "set" your barrel nut at least 2x before you torque it down...being tighten, loosen and repeat then torque. This will "Set" the threads...also with a set-screw gasblock I use a "tiny" drop of vibra-tite on the barrel, well away from the port, then tighten it down and wait 24 hrs before shooting...
That stuff is covered in a previous video and is mostly myth as far as benefits are concerned.
@@CalebSavant I must have missed that one..guess it's an old guy thing. That's what even the lead Armorer/gunsmith at ArmaLite (Westrom owned) taught me to do when installing a new barrel nut...maybe he meant just the AR-10 bit hey it works for me..
The cris-cross ONLY matters during the torque process…. NOT necessary when installing screws/bolts finger tight. Once torquing the begins YES cris-cross is required. For anyone “not” familiar with mechanics and the science/principal involved in the torque process.
The cris-cross pattern while torquing is required to prevent warping of the object requiring the torque so that it properly tightened. Warping can be caused by the force of torque applied unevenly and results in improper torque and tightness required for both safe operation and to prevent mechanical failure of the joined stress points.
As much as that is true, it's more important to add a drop of blue Loctite on each screw and also torque down each screw evenly so that there is equal pressure.
So the barrel nut should be a wet torque?
Will this ris 3 rail fit on the ddm4v7?
What size hex wrench does it use? thanks
Drinking game: take a shot every time he says “actual”.
when will they release
I have zero experience because i cant get my hands on one. I wish i can find it in stock
I'm sorry "C" but I got to ask.... what did it take for Brownells to post a "how to" video when the rest of us would have had it deleted and or a strike...Even MI, and other manufacturers, got strikes for posting said videos...
I wish their wrench was better. I have yet to take off or install one of their nuts without having it bend.
You'ld think they would use heat treated tool steel like MI does...
Finally, a product for the many of us who use grenade launchers at the range……
Step 1: make sure is in stock
Exactly.
So this rail works with a mil spec upper correct?
correct.
What stripped upper is that?
Hello Caleb. What Receiver are you running?
13:12 I see the SilencerCo logo, so I think it’s one of theirs.
What is the piece you pet in the vice to hold the upper receiver?
reaction rod, fits right in the chamber mates up with feed ramp, rock solid, they are around 100 bucks
Midwest Industries is the better option
Can I make this work with a pistol length gas system ?
Yes
SCO15 UPPER RECEIVER
You forgot to put 6 gallons of Loc-Tite on every bolt and screw
Starts at 4:00
What's the strength and weight difference between this and their MFR rail?
It's going to be heavier and more stable. This is just basically an M-LOC version of the RIS II (Picatinny) rail they have been selling for years. Weight wise it's barely lighter than the Picatinny version. I would call it minimal weight saving as DD has said. It gives you the same indestructible sturdy qualities as the RIS II Picatinny rail but with M-LOK.
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If I were him, I would dress as Woody every Halloween.
You could use your hairspray as loctite..
Caleb, what barrel length is that there? Looks like either 13.7" or 13.9"?
14.5.
Edit: Barrel is 14.5, but gas block is not DD. 14.5 barrels are surprisingly shorter on its own than when assembled into a rifle.
@@seijiroukikuoka5975 you made that sound like barrels somehow magically change length when you install them lol
@@lucasblanchard47 yes, yes they do, when added stock and upper receiver.
@@seijiroukikuoka5975 the barrel stays the same length no matter what…think about it lol.
@@lucasblanchard47 when you factor in everything else for the entire firearm, because what the hell are you gonna do with just a barrel? Hurt the enemies' feelings?
Will a Geissele gas block fit under this rail?
Yes
@@brownellsthank you very much
It did indeed with no problems
Great and educational content: I have to say that I think a Hex wrench is the worst fastener design ever especially for use with firearms, But I love the new lock up mounting system of the DD Ris III rail/handguard, but the actual design of the rail is aesthetically boring. now what someone should do is apply that style mounting system to the Ripcord Ind. LDR1 which in my opinion is ten times better, plus it looks better as well as is more rigid and functional then the DD Ris III rail..
the lock up/mounting system of the rail is nothing new. uses the same mounting bracket and barrel nut as the RIS II rail.
If you touch the barrel with the handguard while sliding it in place it buzzes and you lose.
Does this handguard sync the Cry Havoc Tactical QRB (Quick Release Barrel) Kit?
Putting this video out before you actually have the rail in stock is such a tease...😩
Top tier rizz
Geissele all the way.....
What barrel length is he using?
13.7"
I'm personally a much bigger fan of the RIS II Quad rail. It's so darn sturdy and practical.
Balls always makes things better!😂
Rpg in the safe.
Watch at 1.5 speed
Stop attacking me. Iv used the wrestling with alligator method several times. It works. Kinda…. Not really. 😢
You say 35 ft lbs for the barrel nut. The manual states it should be 55 ft lbs.
Most any AR barrel nut is good from 35-80 ftlb if it's steel.
@@brownells ok cool
Rizz
Is it heavier than the Gisselle URGI rai?
Yes. Anything from Daniel Defense, expect them to be heavy.
What we're ignoring is how much better a grenade launcher the M79 is than the 203.
No call of duty has solidified the noob tube as the best grenade launcher.
Took me 30 seconds to figure out the 203 was a waste. 79 strapped to my ruck.
What grease are u using Caleb? You didn't say
Lol he said the Brownells action grease
Wow, only $486. So operator, much tactical!
Cry about it
@@Gunthusiest try not to pop yourself in whatever state allows you handle guns around alcohol 🤡
Don’t be poor.
@@Gunthusiest No, I'm all in! It will match the Colt shaped skidmarks in my KAC branded underoos.
@@AutopilotAndChill as always on time. The don't be poor youtube douche. A tired cliché. What a twat
If you are going to talk about mounting a grenade launcher, then by all means, mount a grenade launcher. Or doesn't Brownell's sell a grenade launcher.
37mm.
Who else checked to see if it’s in stock and it’s not
No red Locktite??? Lol...
Yea my hand guard cost 10 times less, I spent the other 400 on upgrades and ammo. My bad.
Quad rail gang for life! Mlock is gay
Cool. Now sell them.
Yes! It’s the fuddfluence. Nah really tho, all glock slides need to be combat cut (rear sight forward optic) and all ARs need to be bufferless.
Wrong
Absurd to pay that much when Aero or Ballistic Advantage (or hell, even Brownell's house brand, 'AR Stoner') has nearly the same features and construction.
I agree , but if your trying to keep it all DD and your just changing a DD rail I see the merits, I don’t want an entire DD rifle with an aero rail. each to his own
Which of those you named has a similar “lock up” process?
Wow, this looks like a great...wait...$486 for a handguard?🥴😳
Yeah, hard pass.
Yea but it has the letters DD on the side. That's worth at least $350.
You got some soft hands there buddy. Why not get a real man to do this commercial?
Im gonna be honest. That rail looks super out dated, heavy, and too proprietary.
Great video. But dude, you gotta stop smacking your lips. It's super annoying and really distracting.