😊 stop worrying about how long your videos are, you really helped me. Because the notos and the pp750 are the same. And I didn't really know how to find the drop blocks that you have. Thanks for the video.
It can be confusing. I just purchased the Speak PP 750 mines putting out about 14 FPE then I’ve heard that the Notos is putting out 21 FPE yet they’re supposed to be basically the same. I don’t know what the shot count difference would be per Phil.
That was a great video. Long videos are fine as long as you are showing all that great tech knowledge that show us how to avoid heartache when we try new mods. All those things you showed looked great and will save everyone that watches a lot of trouble. Thank for sharing.
@@johnnybbgunner2136 thanks. I post a video now and then but never check my channel for stuff like that. Now my 7 year old daughter on the other hand keeps track lol.
That is absolutely beautiful of you to tell everyone where we can find these awesome parts even though you produce them as well, you are a real G for that!👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏻👏🏿👍👍🏾👍🏽👍🏼👍🏿
I've watched a couple of these "how to" vids on conversions but yours is by far the most comprehensive as well as entertaining. You did an AWESOME job Kid! The one thing I wish you had included would be the links for the reg & bottles as I, like many viewers have no idea where to order these needed parts from. Thanks for taking the time to educate us though and looking forward to your next vid. Jon
@@ThePadutch glad you liked the video. Sorry about the links but a few of these parts were ordered months before and some were intended for other builds. I'm sure I could find the links but couldn't tell you if they would have been good at the time I uploaded the video though. Don't know when I'll be back at the builds again but I promise I'll include any links I can in the comments
Dang that was a great review on how to do that upgrade. I could see what you were doing, and explaining as you went. I was a bit Leary of the high pressure though. That's dangerous stuff. Thanks for explaining that as well. If I was to do this upgrade it's nice to have you go through it step by step. Regardless of the time of the video!!! Thanks can't wait till you get it out and shooting. I had all ready subscribed. So thanks again for your video.
Thanks brother. I been meaning to make a video about this for a while now. A lot of guys in the Notos FB groups are interested but feel exactly like you and aren't very confident I suppose. Telling them about it and posting pictures sometimes isn't as good as just making a video
Great video. If I get one of these drop blocks and I install it BUT it doesn't clock good enough, what is the process to get it clocked doing it manually without a lathe?
If you can get the silver retainer for the regulator to turn in a little a person could carefully sand the receiver end of the z-valve down until it clocks right. A little paint and it wouldn't look so bad. A little brutal but it would work
One more question. The block I have is the same one you used on your notos "Cricket", right now when I screw the block on my Notos it stops perfectly vertical BUT its a half a turn from being clocked, so the Picatinny rail part of the block is on the top, it needs to go one half turn MORE to clock it. Question: about how much do you think I would have to remove to get it to go another half of a turn? Just like a ball park idea. @let6544
@@hammer5848 the thread pitch is 1.0 mm so if its 180 degrees out you would have to remove half a mm or about .019 thousandths of an inch. Best to sneak up on it a little at a time so you don't go to far.
Very cool. Haven’t touched the Notos factory settings yet and it is getting me 40 shots at 25 yards with CHPs14.3s@745 FPS, Daisy HPs 15.4s @735FPS and Hades 16.9s @730FPS. I mean for 233$ from PYA🤷♂️ I’m in love. I’m shooting this gun more than my high end guns. That said I did bring the LCS to the job for them critters getting spooky and won’t let me get close enough with 17-18 FPE. Still…want to try the M60B next from Umarex/Snow Peak. I’m thinking they are calling it a Kelous…🤷♂️ It’s a tube version which is fine but still…well made. Thanks bud for the advice and your time. Stay blessed.
One of the best videos that I have seen for disassembly of this gun. I would like to get the second regulator block that you showed with the screw to shut off pressure, but I couldn't understand where you said that you got it from. Do you have any details on where to get one.
Not sure if this is the exact vendor I got mine from but this is the block Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! $50.01 | Air Force Condor PCP explosion-proof external regulation Z-type constant pressure valve3500psi4500psi a.aliexpress.com/_mKXwUw0
@@kidpellet6544 thanks kid! i have one but i can t screw on it without to have a not align valve..how do you align this z valve on you block ?do you have o ring between ?
@@derivas007 the guy I got mine from gets that block called "part #66" and matches them up with the z-valves he sells. No machining done but sometimes he uses a different sized oring he told me. His name is Wes from Airgun Archery and Fun in Canada
@@derivas007 I don't know what all sizes Wes uses when the block will not tighten up in the right position. I would look for a place that carries harder orings like 90 duro and see if you can take part 66 off and take that and the z-valve to them to see if they can find one that will fit snug and you valve is aligned. If you have a machine shop that could help they can remove a little material from part 66 and make it fit with the factory Notos oring also
I did it, I put mine on the bottle and love it my shot count is way more not sure how much but I just ran 6 mags and still shooting. I just wanted to say thank you for putting this video out very informative . Also just ordered a bottle adapter for my Avenger, she'll be next 😊, Thanks
@@RedCornOutdoors awesome man. I was getting 100 shots on the reg at factory power (18 fpe) with the little 220cc bottle filled to 4500 psi. Not sure how many shots the bigger 420cc bottle because I'm not that mad at my pellets lol
I'm afraid the barrel has two snap rings at the end of it and then the moderator was molded over them. Even if you got it to break free it would only spin and not pull off. You can get it off but you'll have to do some cutting and sanding/grinding to remove the plastic around the two snap rings
Awesome video - do they make a short length bottle thats a bit larger in diameter than the 220cc bottle in 5/8 thread (like perhaps a 300cc thats shorter in length but bigger in diameter) ?
@@kidpellet6544 cool I'll keep looking was just looking for an ultra compact. Folding stock + removable moderator, so that the whole thing can fit in a small day pack then be reassembled in the field. .and a short but fatter bottle would be ideal for that...
Looks great man. I've got the dropblock and bottle on mine but i would like to do this mod as well. Great presentation! Wes is out of them at airgun Archery Fun, hopefully more will come in soon.
@kidpellet6544 what is the fitting on the drop block from Wes? I was trying to fill my bottle and the male and female was the connector. Thank for a great instruction video
@@Tom-jw1pe unfortunately I stopped looking for the Zelos when I found out that it's a Snowpeak and the M60B model can be had with a regulated bottle and in 30 cal. A few bucks more but ends up about the same if you add a regulated bottle to the Zelos
you have got some pretty awesome ideas bro , great job !!! . you should get into less than lethal stuff also for things like the umarex hdp.50 and hdr.68 paintball markers !
I have the double barrel shotgun marker. Made some wood and aluminum slugs fir it and had a lot of fun. Blew an oring out of the barrel and haven't fixed it yet. Should get it out and have a look
Instead of sanding the drop block could you put a washer between the action and the o ring? So it would go dropblock-o ring-action? Might help with the timing.
A guy could replace the altogether with a delrin or acetal washer as long as it had a little meat on it to crush. If it was a little extra thick a guy could sand it down at home until it was timed right. Should be pretty rigid
Great videos you're a smart cookie. My Artemis PP 750 should be arriving in the next week. I read a lot of posts and saw some videos on modifications. If I can get 15 FPE or maybe 20 FPE at most it would be good, but i would like to able to dial the power back to its normal 500 FPS if I eant more shots per fill which should be around 50. What 3 or 4 modifications do you recommend? One is to shorten the hammer stpring, the other is to adjust the regulator, and the other is to drill out some of the internals. What's your advice in terms of steps to take? Thanks
Great easy to follow video. I have a question regarding the Ali express z valve. I turned the valve cc and it only goes to 1200 PSI. Any ideas that may help me? Thanks
Great looking . But I do t k own if I missed when you said how much psi the regulater can go up to. Can you let me know?? I think I am going to make a conversion like that on my jkhan iluda n400 in .177cal
Very nice!!!! While long, it was very informative... lots of time when I'm working on something and I'm doing research, like here, I like to see what to expect, as well as what not to if I meet resistance with a part. Plus you have a lot of very nice tidbits of advice in there, like handling the trigger assy, that could make a crucial difference in the process! Thanks!!! The only thing I might ask for are actual part numbers for the parts you acquired so I get the right stuff. hehe
Is it possible to share the dimensions or a drawing of the drop aluminum block you made made? Very talented work and video. Thank you for sharing your time and efforts with the community. Have a most awesome afternoon!
Thank you Just finished Had some set backs and bought every product you showed Even though you told me so. I just put on the Canadians z valve I’m not sure why I was nervous it was easier than imagined I heard springs and was like oh shit I wish I had that Allen driver I got her done though Thank you
@@kidpellet6544do I need to loosen the screw in the collar that blocks the tank I was just loosing it and it blew out …, wicked pissed My regulator pressure was sitting at 0 and the tank was in the green …,, please help
Have you modified the power level of your gun? It was kind of disappointing to see this but someone shot a can of spam at 50 yards and the PP 750 could not penetrate it except for the entrance. It left a dent on the back of the can. At 750 FPS I would’ve thought it would go through at least two cans. I’m thinking about purchasing one but I want to get the power up to 800 FPS or more. Have you tried doing any penetration test at 50 yards and 100 yards? If not, it would be interesting to see it.
Umarex advertised it at 12 fpe but everyone I know of gets around 18 fpe. You can get around 23 fpe out of a stock Notos by just turning the regulator up. You can even shim the hammer spring a little but the bad thing is it only gets like one mag before it's out of air. That's the number one reason I put a bottle on my other Notos. I believe you can hit 800 easy with a 14.3 grain pellet but pushing it faster with more air pressure took away a lot of accuracy on mine. I turned it back down to 18 fpe and its getting 100 shots per fill with the smaller 220cc bottle and I can hit a soup can at 100 yards. Even penetrates one side, but not the other. Can't get much better that that with an 11.75 inch barrel mass produced. I've got a Lother Walther barrel to put on one of them when I get time. I think it's like 19 inches long to should pick up a little power without using more air. A person could also try fitting an air stripper inside a moderator to help with the "dirty" air when the reg is turned up to 23 or 24 fpe. Might tighten up the groups but would still have a lousy shot count without a bottle
@@kidpellet6544 Thanks appreciate it. After searching for hours, I think these are some of the best videos in terms of modifying the PPP 750. Take a look at them if you want and then let me know what you think. Title. “Artemis PP750 Power Level Adjustments.” It’s not a very good video, but this guy says he’s getting 40 FPE out of the gun 980 FPS. The title is. “Umarex Notos Update HUGE power Upgrade! 1st Ever 980fps with 21gr! Check it out! tips/ info.” Title “Artemis PP750 Field Review 72K views 3y ago #airguns ...more.”
@@titogrant9654 I have done a little but not really trying to break into the airgun mods kinda stuff. Mostly just sharing what I've done to my personal stuff. Biggest thing is being liable for any HPA related accidents to airguns or parts I've made. Willing to help with advice anytime though and share my experience with whatever I can
I bought the same kit from archery and air gun fun, mine is a total disaster, it keeps blowing up every o-ring I put on it no matter what it holds the pressure for about 10 minutes before it blows up another o- ring
I see no reason you couldn't use one of the plenum kits available but you'd have to maybe do some work to get it to hang straight. As far as power I think 30 ish would be the upper end with such a short barrel. I think my 22 cal Origin cranked up but stock is 40 ish with a heavy slug and the barrel is a lot longer.
I saw the lothar walther barrels and thought it couldn’t be to hard to make one fit for my gunsmith buddy. I’m very interested in your results hopefully we can get some updates on that build. What dimensions and rifling did you go with?
I don't but its easy. Remove the scope if there's one on it. See the screws in the picatiny rail in front of the breach? Remove those and look inside the holes. There is another screw under them. Remove those and the entire barrel, moderator, pic rail and shroud will slide out with a little twisting and wiggling
@@luisvazquez9604 it's on my list. It's the same thread as the 88/90 gram co2 I believe. If it is I already have the adapter to put a regulated paintball tank on it
I accidently clocked the transfer port almost closed on mine, was at 6 fpe, fun indoor pinker, but I had to fix that, back up to 725 fps with CPHP now :)
As far as I understand the Artemis pp750 has the same Barrel as your gun. Have you ever tried shooting light slugs with your gun? Currently my gun puts out around 10 FPE I'm going to try and get it to 14 FPE
@@surreallife777 its supposed to be made by the same factory so I would think it has the same barrel. Mine was putting out about 18 fpe and several others said the same thing. I know I adjusted the factory regulator up to around 2200 psi or a little more with a shim behind the hammer spring and got it up to 24 fpe with an 18 grain JSB. Tried a few different slugs in it with not so great power or accuracy. I think my best accuracy was with a 16 grain AirArms pellet at 18 fpe and did pretty well out to 100 yards. My friend Carl's did very well at 100 yards only with Crosman 14.3's. Not "benchrest" good but we hit a small tin can on a steel post with every shot from a sandbag. I'm thoroughly happy with that myself
Does anyone know what thread size that is on part no. 66? I've seen those regulators you used on another auction site and wondered if they'd work on an Airforce (or Gunpower as they are over here in the UK) tank.
I would appreciate your advice. It would save me a lot of time and mistakes as well as other people too. I just put an order in for the Artemis PP750. I would like to increase the FPS and FPE. There is a video out there called: “Artemis, PP750 power adjustment modifications.” Dan Geib. I’m not sure if you are familiar with the video. If you are, do you recommend that I follow his procedures? There are no extra parts purchased. It’s all about adjustments and drilling. After all the modifications, he got up to 800 FPS and 20 FPE. My concern is the shot count because I believe with 22 caliber JSB Hades in stock form the PP750 gets about 50 shots per fill. My concern is that it might takes the shot counts down to 20 shots which is not very many. Do you think it’s possible to get the same FPE and FPS numbers without losing too many shots per fill by following a different procedure in terms of modifications to the Gun as compared to what he did? It would be interesting if you could do a video with stage one modification video and a stage two modification video for the PP750. Thanks. Great videos by the way Michael
I searched for about 2 hrs and couldnt find any drop block/ hpa adapter specifically for the notos .Apparently the pp750 adapter is no longer available . I found a drop block adapter on ebay that looks similar but it comes in a long and a short version and i dont know which to get ? Any help/links would be greatly appreciated, thanks
There are no specific bottle adapters for the Notos. The gentleman at Airgun Archery & Fun was getting the part #66 from a vendor and matching them up to the Z-Valve found on Ali Express and selling them as a kit. Not sure if or when he would get them back in stock. There is a guy in the Notos FB group that does the conversion but needs the Notos in hand. Not sure if he can do it with only the part #66 off of your gun or not. If so that would be a lot cheaper than shipping the whole gun both ways
Yes, it would screw on with the barrel removed. At about 8 minutes and 30 seconds I start talk about how that would work. No video of that particular install though
@@kidpellet6544 Ya I was confused I watched the whole video ,I remember seeing it in your hands , but being a single dad I probably missed it So i ordered that one . Then I watched the second half there and it’s the Canadian one . Which seems like more work except for the timing But could I use a stainless flat washer and o ring to try to keep straight? Or I can sand the washer down maybe
@@Wickedstickyflowers you could possibly use a washer and sand it until its timed right. If anything is going to give you a problem its getting the oring to seal. Could probably stack the orings or use a bigger one. The factory oring isn't going seal if the washer has to be very thick. Kind of minor problems in the airgun world lol
I have two of these blocks, and was wondering what is your recommendation on making one them fit on my arm 2079. It's already have a paintball bottle on it, I want to be able to adjust it on the fly. Any suggestions will help.
I would probably get an externally adjustable paintball reg. I think they are around the same price. The problem with this one on your rig would be making and adapter to get it to either fit your block and it would probably hang to low or make an adapter to fit your airtube without the factory block. Not that difficult but you would have to do some machining. With the externally adjustable paintball reg it would be bolt on with no machining. I dont have a link but I'm sure you can find them on Ebay and Amazon
I miss spelled AR 2079. The action looks just like a Gauntlet, all the same parts and everything, the breech on this one is single shot, but the Gauntlet breech will fit it.
Sorry, I looked at my last message and it’s pretty long. I’ll make it shorter. Can you explain how you did all this? I would like to increase the FPS and FPE. There is a video out there called: “Artemis, PP750 power adjustment modifications.” Dan Geib. Have you ever considered modifying your gun? My concern is shot count. He is getting about 800 FPS and 20 FPE with these modifications. There are no extra parts. All he did was adjustments and some drilling. I don’t know how many shots he’s getting Per fill?
Not sure about the pp750 but the factory Notos is getting 18 fpe out of the box and just adjusting the regulator up a couple hundred psi will get you to 20 fpe without any modifications. A couple more hundred psi and it will get around 24 fpe but reduces shot count a lot. The next thing on my list is to add a new longer barrel
Watch this video and bought the notos, bottle, and the regulator. But can't get the regulator to hold air. I'm too dang frustrated and ready to go back to stock.
@@jesseyang1904 did you get the regulator only or did you get the regulator and part "66" already fit together? Sounds like it's just the oring between the reg and part "66". I changed the oring out with one of another size on one of mine and it sealed up. Maybe that's all it takes to fix yours.
Where did you get your bottles from for this build? Do you happen to have a good link for them? Awesome video btw. I’m planning on doing a conversion to my notos and I’ve watched this video like 10 times lol
Can someone give me the distance between the centerlines of the intake and valve. I would like to use this part to make a bullboss bottle conversion (like a Hatsan airmax but with a plenum) but need to sort out if I can get away with the dimensions.
Teflon is most useful for tapered threads like pipe threads. Doesnt do as good a job on straight threads like these on the Notos. Not saying it couldn't be done but it would probably take a lot of tape and in the right place so that your still using enough threads to hold up to the high pressure
You would need to make an adapter to thread thread into this block and slip in the airtube of the pistol and pin it in place or use screws. If you get the block that comes with the PCP valve you could use it in place of the pistol valve
It just seems loud, although I'm not comparing it to another airgun. Probably just the nature of the beast. Gun is right around 86-88 db when shooting. Is that normal?
@@theobserver9565 don't have a decibel meter but I think I've heard others mention it being in the 90 db range. Could also be that the hammer striking the valve is right in front of your nose. I have other airguns that have a quieter firing cycle but they are way heavier and the hammer is surrounded by a lot of metal in the receiver.
I don't think so even though they are made by the same company. The Snowpeak M60B is the same gun as the Zelos and offered in 177 to 30 cal and the "B" is for bottle. Converting the Zelos may actually be more expensive
I just realized the Z block I got was leaking out the gauge glass the glass and rim got filed down by the regulator due to packing I got the aluminum Z block you got there but now I need a gauge and fill port that fits between the Tank and Z block I know I’m driving you nuts You got a link
Excellent video . Friend. Could you do me a favor and send me your contact information where I bought the valve with the adapter for the natos that says from Canada?
long video are great especially for some one that doesn't know how to do it and want to lean short vids don't give you enough information lots missing 👍
if they made a couple different threaded adapters to put a stock valve on the drop block they would sell why more. the valve it comes with doesn't fit any stock air gun
the universal drop blocks not every valve 16/1 thread if they made adapters so people could thread in different valves they would sell more @@kidpellet6544
@@edlyli7166 I made a couple of adapters that could be installed at home without any machine work. They used a regulated paintball type bottle and worked really well. Was just get some gauges in to show the regulated pressure and some long pic rails to mount under the bottom for bipods. Then this Z-valve came out and was less than half what I had in time and material. I liked the Z-valve so much I got several for myself lol. The ones i made are on a shelf unfinished until I come up with another idea.
😊 stop worrying about how long your videos are, you really helped me. Because the notos and the pp750 are the same. And I didn't really know how to find the drop blocks that you have. Thanks for the video.
Thanks man, glad you got something from it. That's the only reason I do it
That’s good to know because the pp750 is around 30% cheaper.
notos and pp750 are the same??
It can be confusing. I just purchased the Speak PP 750 mines putting out about 14 FPE then I’ve heard that the Notos is putting out 21 FPE yet they’re supposed to be basically the same. I don’t know what the shot count difference would be per Phil.
This eorkvon the zelous right
That was a great video. Long videos are fine as long as you are showing all that great tech knowledge that show us how to avoid heartache when we try new mods. All those things you showed looked great and will save everyone that watches a lot of trouble. Thank for sharing.
I have the C88 plenum kit and now want the bottle adapter.
You were the first to rip apart the NOTOS if I remember right when it first came out.
That's me. From the minute I saw it I knew I was gonna put a bottle on it
@@kidpellet6544
Congratulations on going well over the 1000 subscribers already Kid.🤠🇺🇸
@@johnnybbgunner2136 thanks. I post a video now and then but never check my channel for stuff like that. Now my 7 year old daughter on the other hand keeps track lol.
@@kidpellet6544
Smart Kid…no pun intended.
That is absolutely beautiful of you to tell everyone where we can find these awesome parts even though you produce them as well, you are a real G for that!👏🏾👏👏🏽👏🏻👏🏿👍👍🏾👍🏽👍🏼👍🏿
I've watched a couple of these "how to" vids on conversions but yours is by far the most comprehensive as well as entertaining. You did an AWESOME job Kid! The one thing I wish you had included would be the links for the reg & bottles as I, like many viewers have no idea where to order these needed parts from. Thanks for taking the time to educate us though and looking forward to your next vid. Jon
@@ThePadutch glad you liked the video. Sorry about the links but a few of these parts were ordered months before and some were intended for other builds. I'm sure I could find the links but couldn't tell you if they would have been good at the time I uploaded the video though.
Don't know when I'll be back at the builds again but I promise I'll include any links I can in the comments
Dang that was a great review on how to do that upgrade. I could see what you were doing, and explaining as you went. I was a bit Leary of the high pressure though. That's dangerous stuff. Thanks for explaining that as well. If I was to do this upgrade it's nice to have you go through it step by step. Regardless of the time of the video!!! Thanks can't wait till you get it out and shooting. I had all ready subscribed. So thanks again for your video.
Thanks brother. I been meaning to make a video about this for a while now. A lot of guys in the Notos FB groups are interested but feel exactly like you and aren't very confident I suppose. Telling them about it and posting pictures sometimes isn't as good as just making a video
I really enjoyed your great video on the Noto's bottle mod. Please give us more!
Thank you so much for your time please keep making video i really appreciate it so much 😊
Great video. If I get one of these drop blocks and I install it BUT it doesn't clock good enough, what is the process to get it clocked doing it manually without a lathe?
If you can get the silver retainer for the regulator to turn in a little a person could carefully sand the receiver end of the z-valve down until it clocks right. A little paint and it wouldn't look so bad.
A little brutal but it would work
@@kidpellet6544 Thank you for that explanation
One more question. The block I have is the same one you used on your notos "Cricket", right now when I screw the block on my Notos it stops perfectly vertical BUT its a half a turn from being clocked, so the Picatinny rail part of the block is on the top, it needs to go one half turn MORE to clock it. Question: about how much do you think I would have to remove to get it to go another half of a turn? Just like a ball park idea. @let6544
@@hammer5848 the thread pitch is 1.0 mm so if its 180 degrees out you would have to remove half a mm or about .019 thousandths of an inch.
Best to sneak up on it a little at a time so you don't go to far.
Wow that,s not very much! Sounds doable...right?
@@kidpellet6544
Where can i order the last drop block you looked at? Great video !
airgunarcheryfun.ca/pp750-bottle-valve-and-regulator/
Very cool. Haven’t touched the Notos factory settings yet and it is getting me 40 shots at 25 yards with CHPs14.3s@745 FPS, Daisy HPs 15.4s @735FPS and Hades 16.9s @730FPS. I mean for 233$ from PYA🤷♂️ I’m in love. I’m shooting this gun more than my high end guns. That said I did bring the LCS to the job for them critters getting spooky and won’t let me get close enough with 17-18 FPE. Still…want to try the M60B next from Umarex/Snow Peak. I’m thinking they are calling it a Kelous…🤷♂️ It’s a tube version which is fine but still…well made. Thanks bud for the advice and your time. Stay blessed.
At 36:00 exactly.. this step
Didn’t work for me.. it was impossible for the two smaller screws to go in…
One of the best videos that I have seen for disassembly of this gun. I would like to get the second regulator block that you showed with the screw to shut off pressure, but I couldn't understand where you said that you got it from. Do you have any details on where to get one.
Not sure if this is the exact vendor I got mine from but this is the block
Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out!
$50.01 | Air Force Condor PCP explosion-proof external regulation Z-type constant pressure valve3500psi4500psi
a.aliexpress.com/_mKXwUw0
@@kidpellet6544 thanks kid! i have one but i can t screw on it without to have a not align valve..how do you align this z valve on you block ?do you have o ring between ?
@@derivas007 the guy I got mine from gets that block called "part #66" and matches them up with the z-valves he sells. No machining done but sometimes he uses a different sized oring he told me. His name is Wes from Airgun Archery and Fun in Canada
@@kidpellet6544 do you know approximatly what is the size of the o ring? thanks a lot for you help
@@derivas007 I don't know what all sizes Wes uses when the block will not tighten up in the right position. I would look for a place that carries harder orings like 90 duro and see if you can take part 66 off and take that and the z-valve to them to see if they can find one that will fit snug and you valve is aligned.
If you have a machine shop that could help they can remove a little material from part 66 and make it fit with the factory Notos oring also
Great video I'll watch again for sure, got my wheel turning 😊
That's awesome man. Like to see people get inspired lol
I did it, I put mine on the bottle and love it my shot count is way more not sure how much but I just ran 6 mags and still shooting. I just wanted to say thank you for putting this video out very informative . Also just ordered a bottle adapter for my Avenger, she'll be next 😊, Thanks
@@RedCornOutdoors awesome man. I was getting 100 shots on the reg at factory power (18 fpe) with the little 220cc bottle filled to 4500 psi. Not sure how many shots the bigger 420cc bottle because I'm not that mad at my pellets lol
Long video = proper educational video.👍👍
looks like im going to be altering my quite accurate notos after all. i wonder if a heat gun may get that moderator off?
Heat gun will not work
I'm afraid the barrel has two snap rings at the end of it and then the moderator was molded over them. Even if you got it to break free it would only spin and not pull off. You can get it off but you'll have to do some cutting and sanding/grinding to remove the plastic around the two snap rings
thanks
@@kidpellet6544
Awesome video - do they make a short length bottle thats a bit larger in diameter than the 220cc bottle in 5/8 thread (like perhaps a 300cc thats shorter in length but bigger in diameter) ?
@@SC-td1tg I've not seen one but I know they use them on some of the short bullpup like the RAW Micro Hunter and I think on one of the FX's
@@kidpellet6544 cool I'll keep looking was just looking for an ultra compact. Folding stock + removable moderator, so that the whole thing can fit in a small day pack then be reassembled in the field. .and a short but fatter bottle would be ideal for that...
Looks great man. I've got the dropblock and bottle on mine but i would like to do this mod as well. Great presentation! Wes is out of them at airgun Archery Fun, hopefully more will come in soon.
I'm sure those blocks are moving fast
@kidpellet6544 what is the fitting on the drop block from Wes? I was trying to fill my bottle and the male and female was the connector. Thank for a great instruction video
This video helped a lot!!! Hopefully getting my reg and bottle this week… can you do one for the zelos?
@@Tom-jw1pe unfortunately I stopped looking for the Zelos when I found out that it's a Snowpeak and the M60B model can be had with a regulated bottle and in 30 cal. A few bucks more but ends up about the same if you add a regulated bottle to the Zelos
@@kidpellet6544 wish I would’ve known that before getn my zelos last week…
you have got some pretty awesome ideas bro , great job !!! . you should get into less than lethal stuff also for things like the umarex hdp.50 and hdr.68 paintball markers !
I have the double barrel shotgun marker. Made some wood and aluminum slugs fir it and had a lot of fun.
Blew an oring out of the barrel and haven't fixed it yet. Should get it out and have a look
@@kidpellet6544 they are a lot of fun ,especially the umarex hdp.50 and hdr.68 !!!
Instead of sanding the drop block could you put a washer between the action and the o ring? So it would go dropblock-o ring-action? Might help with the timing.
A guy could replace the altogether with a delrin or acetal washer as long as it had a little meat on it to crush. If it was a little extra thick a guy could sand it down at home until it was timed right. Should be pretty rigid
Great videos you're a smart cookie. My Artemis PP 750 should be arriving in the next week.
I read a lot of posts and saw some videos on modifications. If I can get 15 FPE or maybe 20 FPE at most it would be good, but i would like to able to dial the power back to its normal 500 FPS if I eant more shots per fill which should be around 50.
What 3 or 4 modifications do you recommend? One is to shorten the hammer stpring, the other is to adjust the regulator, and the other is to drill out some of the internals. What's your advice in terms of steps to take? Thanks
Good video what was the name of the piece you installed and where to get one
If you search "Airforce Z-Valve" it will come up. Available through a few vendors online
You know that set screw you said don’t loose
Ya, I lost it!
No way!
Great easy to follow video. I have a question regarding the Ali express z valve. I turned the valve cc and it only goes to 1200 PSI. Any ideas that may help me? Thanks
Great looking . But I do t k own if I missed when you said how much psi the regulater can go up to. Can you let me know?? I think I am going to make a conversion like that on my jkhan iluda n400 in .177cal
I believe it will go to around 3k before jumping up to bottle pressure
@kidpellet6544 thanks man just what I wanted to hear
Thank you. Just what I was looking for. Great video.
awesome video! I ordered parts. Thanks!😄
Very nice!!!! While long, it was very informative... lots of time when I'm working on something and I'm doing research, like here, I like to see what to expect, as well as what not to if I meet resistance with a part. Plus you have a lot of very nice tidbits of advice in there, like handling the trigger assy, that could make a crucial difference in the process! Thanks!!! The only thing I might ask for are actual part numbers for the parts you acquired so I get the right stuff. hehe
Do you know the hole size in the block from the Canadian unit ? Great video 👍👍
Thats a pretty sweet little lathe. What kind is it? I have to change my gears manually, and that can be a pain in the a$$
Is it possible to share the dimensions or a drawing of the drop aluminum block you made made? Very talented work and video. Thank you for sharing your time and efforts with the community. Have a most awesome afternoon!
Thank you
Just finished
Had some set backs and bought every product you showed
Even though you told me so.
I just put on the Canadians z valve
I’m not sure why I was nervous it was easier than imagined
I heard springs and was like oh shit
I wish I had that Allen driver
I got her done though
Thank you
Cool man
@@kidpellet6544do I need to loosen the screw in the collar that blocks the tank
I was just loosing it and it blew out …, wicked pissed
My regulator pressure was sitting at 0 and the tank was in the green …,, please help
Where did you purchase the bolt on block? I really appreciate your videos. You have inspired me to do another project gun..
It is from Airgun Archery & Fun
@kidpellet6544 that's what I thought. I saw the block listed. Just didnt see anything saying it's bolt on.
@@richardrogers3567 I think it says it comes with "part #66" and is also for the PP750
A link ro that last drop block would be great
airgunarcheryfun.ca/pp750-bottle-valve-and-regulator/
Have you modified the power level of your gun? It was kind of disappointing to see this but someone shot a can of spam at 50 yards and the PP 750 could not penetrate it except for the entrance.
It left a dent on the back of the can. At 750 FPS I would’ve thought it would go through at least two cans. I’m thinking about purchasing one but I want to get the power up to 800 FPS or more.
Have you tried doing any penetration test at 50 yards and 100 yards? If not, it would be interesting to see it.
Umarex advertised it at 12 fpe but everyone I know of gets around 18 fpe. You can get around 23 fpe out of a stock Notos by just turning the regulator up. You can even shim the hammer spring a little but the bad thing is it only gets like one mag before it's out of air. That's the number one reason I put a bottle on my other Notos.
I believe you can hit 800 easy with a 14.3 grain pellet but pushing it faster with more air pressure took away a lot of accuracy on mine. I turned it back down to 18 fpe and its getting 100 shots per fill with the smaller 220cc bottle and I can hit a soup can at 100 yards.
Even penetrates one side, but not the other.
Can't get much better that that with an 11.75 inch barrel mass produced.
I've got a Lother Walther barrel to put on one of them when I get time. I think it's like 19 inches long to should pick up a little power without using more air.
A person could also try fitting an air stripper inside a moderator to help with the "dirty" air when the reg is turned up to 23 or 24 fpe.
Might tighten up the groups but would still have a lousy shot count without a bottle
@@kidpellet6544 Thanks appreciate it. After searching for hours, I think these are some of the best videos in terms of modifying the PPP 750. Take a look at them if you want and then let me know what you think.
Title. “Artemis PP750 Power Level
Adjustments.”
It’s not a very good video, but this guy says he’s getting 40 FPE out of the gun 980 FPS.
The title is.
“Umarex Notos Update HUGE power Upgrade! 1st Ever 980fps with 21gr! Check it out! tips/
info.”
Title
“Artemis PP750 Field Review
72K views 3y ago #airguns ...more.”
@@kidpellet6544 Thanks 🙏
Hello I like the work you did to gun do you do work for others
@@titogrant9654 I have done a little but not really trying to break into the airgun mods kinda stuff.
Mostly just sharing what I've done to my personal stuff.
Biggest thing is being liable for any HPA related accidents to airguns or parts I've made.
Willing to help with advice anytime though and share my experience with whatever I can
I bought the same kit from archery and air gun fun, mine is a total disaster, it keeps blowing up every o-ring I put on it no matter what it holds the pressure for about 10 minutes before it blows up another o- ring
@@mindful1786 the one from the block to "part 66"?
Could you also instal the big plenum? I wonder if it could reach 40-50fpe
I see no reason you couldn't use one of the plenum kits available but you'd have to maybe do some work to get it to hang straight.
As far as power I think 30 ish would be the upper end with such a short barrel.
I think my 22 cal Origin cranked up but stock is 40 ish with a heavy slug and the barrel is a lot longer.
what is oring size at 16:41?
I saw the lothar walther barrels and thought it couldn’t be to hard to make one fit for my gunsmith buddy. I’m very interested in your results hopefully we can get some updates on that build. What dimensions and rifling did you go with?
Do you have video of you installing the other style z block …
Do you have a video on how to remove the barrel to put this on sir ?
I don't but its easy. Remove the scope if there's one on it. See the screws in the picatiny rail in front of the breach? Remove those and look inside the holes. There is another screw under them. Remove those and the entire barrel, moderator, pic rail and shroud will slide out with a little twisting and wiggling
@@kidpellet6544 thank you
Can you do the umarex conplete the new one.?
@@luisvazquez9604 it's on my list. It's the same thread as the 88/90 gram co2 I believe. If it is I already have the adapter to put a regulated paintball tank on it
can i get a link to that last adapter
I accidently clocked the transfer port almost closed on mine, was at 6 fpe, fun indoor pinker, but I had to fix that, back up to 725 fps with CPHP now :)
Do you have a video how to put in that second z valve the Chinese one?
Please 🙏
So you know that valve that holds in the air to the tank ?
Do you need to loosen that to fill the tank ?
As far as I understand the Artemis pp750 has the same Barrel as your gun. Have you ever tried shooting light slugs with your gun? Currently my gun puts out around 10 FPE I'm going to try and get it to 14 FPE
@@surreallife777 its supposed to be made by the same factory so I would think it has the same barrel.
Mine was putting out about 18 fpe and several others said the same thing. I know I adjusted the factory regulator up to around 2200 psi or a little more with a shim behind the hammer spring and got it up to 24 fpe with an 18 grain JSB.
Tried a few different slugs in it with not so great power or accuracy.
I think my best accuracy was with a 16 grain AirArms pellet at 18 fpe and did pretty well out to 100 yards.
My friend Carl's did very well at 100 yards only with Crosman 14.3's.
Not "benchrest" good but we hit a small tin can on a steel post with every shot from a sandbag.
I'm thoroughly happy with that myself
@@kidpellet6544 Thank you 🙏
Excuse me..Can change the barrels into a long barrels in 65cm ??
Does anyone know what thread size that is on part no. 66? I've seen those regulators you used on another auction site and wondered if they'd work on an Airforce (or Gunpower as they are over here in the UK) tank.
I believe it is an M16X1.0
I would appreciate your advice. It would save me a lot of time and mistakes as well as other people too.
I just put an order in for the Artemis PP750. I would like to increase the FPS and FPE. There is a video out there called: “Artemis, PP750 power adjustment modifications.” Dan Geib.
I’m not sure if you are familiar with the video. If you are, do you recommend that I follow his procedures? There are no extra parts purchased. It’s all about adjustments and drilling.
After all the modifications, he got up to 800 FPS and 20 FPE. My concern is the shot count because I believe with 22 caliber JSB Hades in stock form the PP750 gets about 50 shots per fill. My concern is that it might takes the shot counts down to 20 shots which is not very many.
Do you think it’s possible to get the same FPE and FPS numbers without losing too many shots per fill by following a different procedure in terms of modifications to the Gun as compared to what he did?
It would be interesting if you could do a video with stage one modification video and a stage two modification video for the PP750. Thanks.
Great videos by the way
Michael
I searched for about 2 hrs and couldnt find any drop block/ hpa adapter specifically for the notos .Apparently the pp750 adapter is no longer available . I found a drop block adapter on ebay that looks similar but it comes in a long and a short version and i dont know which to get ? Any help/links would be greatly appreciated, thanks
There are no specific bottle adapters for the Notos. The gentleman at Airgun Archery & Fun was getting the part #66 from a vendor and matching them up to the Z-Valve found on Ali Express and selling them as a kit.
Not sure if or when he would get them back in stock.
There is a guy in the Notos FB group that does the conversion but needs the Notos in hand. Not sure if he can do it with only the part #66 off of your gun or not.
If so that would be a lot cheaper than shipping the whole gun both ways
@@kidpellet6544 thanks for the reply
The other style in the beginning looks like you can just screw it on ,if you remove the barrel.
Yes or no
Yes, it would screw on with the barrel removed. At about 8 minutes and 30 seconds I start talk about how that would work.
No video of that particular install though
@@kidpellet6544
Ya I was confused
I watched the whole video ,I remember seeing it in your hands , but being a single dad I probably missed it
So i ordered that one . Then I watched the second half there and it’s the Canadian one . Which seems like more work except for the timing
But could I use a stainless flat washer and o ring to try to keep straight? Or I can sand the washer down maybe
@@kidpellet6544 thank for a response
@@Wickedstickyflowers you could possibly use a washer and sand it until its timed right. If anything is going to give you a problem its getting the oring to seal. Could probably stack the orings or use a bigger one.
The factory oring isn't going seal if the washer has to be very thick.
Kind of minor problems in the airgun world lol
@@kidpellet6544 yes use a slightly larger o ring and stack them .
You ever use gasket silicone
What exactly is that called the
Drop down or Z regulator
I have two of these blocks, and was wondering what is your recommendation on making one them fit on my arm 2079. It's already have a paintball bottle on it, I want to be able to adjust it on the fly. Any suggestions will help.
I would probably get an externally adjustable paintball reg. I think they are around the same price.
The problem with this one on your rig would be making and adapter to get it to either fit your block and it would probably hang to low or make an adapter to fit your airtube without the factory block.
Not that difficult but you would have to do some machining.
With the externally adjustable paintball reg it would be bolt on with no machining.
I dont have a link but I'm sure you can find them on Ebay and Amazon
I miss spelled AR 2079. The action looks just like a Gauntlet, all the same parts and everything, the breech on this one is single shot, but the Gauntlet breech will fit it.
@@kphillips3694 I have two Gauntlets and a QB Chief. Your 2078 is kinda half of each
I wonder if th
Thanks, I may come up with something, I don't have any machinery to mill with, just hand tools ( dill, tap, and dye)
Have you messed with the regulator spring stack configuration at all? what configuration do you have it in if you have
get a ninja flex adjustable bottle regulator if trying to build a dual regulator style with what you have. that way there both adjustable
Sorry, I looked at my last message and it’s pretty long. I’ll make it shorter. Can you explain how you did all this? I would like to increase the FPS and FPE. There is a video out there called: “Artemis, PP750 power adjustment modifications.” Dan Geib. Have you ever considered modifying your gun? My concern is shot count. He is getting about 800 FPS and 20 FPE with these modifications. There are no extra parts. All he did was adjustments and some drilling. I don’t know how many shots he’s getting Per fill?
Not sure about the pp750 but the factory Notos is getting 18 fpe out of the box and just adjusting the regulator up a couple hundred psi will get you to 20 fpe without any modifications. A couple more hundred psi and it will get around 24 fpe but reduces shot count a lot.
The next thing on my list is to add a new longer barrel
@@kidpellet6544 OK. What’s the shot count of the Notos out of the box and what’s the shot count once you do the minor adjustment to 20 FPE?
@@surreallife777 most people myself included are getting around 21 shots per fill out of the box. I got about 16 at 20 fpe and 7 at 24 fpe.
Thanks. I think both guns are fairly similar I'm not sure about the barrel in terms of which pellets work best with the gun @@kidpellet6544
Watch this video and bought the notos, bottle, and the regulator. But can't get the regulator to hold air. I'm too dang frustrated and ready to go back to stock.
Any idea where its leaking from on the reg?
@kidpellet6544 it's leaking from the regulator, meets the block or the gun. Sorry I'm new to this.
@@jesseyang1904 did you get the regulator only or did you get the regulator and part "66" already fit together?
Sounds like it's just the oring between the reg and part "66".
I changed the oring out with one of another size on one of mine and it sealed up.
Maybe that's all it takes to fix yours.
@kidpellet6544 I try 2 different orings and it still leaks. What size oring did you try?
@@jesseyang1904 I don't remember for sure. It was out of one of the harbor freight kits
The NOTOS Nation Rocks!🤠🇺🇸
Could you please tell me what size the threads are on the valve side of the drop block. Thank you
I believe they are M16x1.0 but I'd have to double check
Where did you get your bottles from for this build? Do you happen to have a good link for them? Awesome video btw. I’m planning on doing a conversion to my notos and I’ve watched this video like 10 times lol
@@keithsileo8031 I get my bottles from Ali Express. Takes a whole to get them but I usually order a few for future builds.
Can someone give me the distance between the centerlines of the intake and valve. I would like to use this part to make a bullboss bottle conversion (like a Hatsan airmax but with a plenum) but need to sort out if I can get away with the dimensions.
where is made the umarex notos?
What's with the stock screws? I had that same experience with three of them Notos,lol.
Detailed information and descriptions.
Great job.
Im completely new to this, but would Teflon not be sufficient enough for the threads? Instead of having to deal with "timing"
Teflon is most useful for tapered threads like pipe threads. Doesnt do as good a job on straight threads like these on the Notos.
Not saying it couldn't be done but it would probably take a lot of tape and in the right place so that your still using enough threads to hold up to the high pressure
Superb, well informed video. Thank you
Aea zeus .72 and this notos carbine are my only two I have and will need
Excellent video. Very informative!
i like your video its very impressive..where did you get all that kit?
Thanks man.
You can get this regulated block from Airgun Archery Fun
If I was install one of these on the Benjamin marauder pistol how do you secure it to the air tube?
You would need to make an adapter to thread thread into this block and slip in the airtube of the pistol and pin it in place or use screws.
If you get the block that comes with the PCP valve you could use it in place of the pistol valve
Thank You Very Much, Mr. Big Brain 💯👍😎
I've noticed the hammer strike is loud on my Notos. Is there any way to get it quieter?
You could turn it down but I don't think its going to make much difference. Are you comparing it to another airgun or just loud in general?
It just seems loud, although I'm not comparing it to another airgun. Probably just the nature of the beast.
Gun is right around 86-88 db when shooting. Is that normal?
@@theobserver9565 don't have a decibel meter but I think I've heard others mention it being in the 90 db range.
Could also be that the hammer striking the valve is right in front of your nose.
I have other airguns that have a quieter firing cycle but they are way heavier and the hammer is surrounded by a lot of metal in the receiver.
Can a bottle be added to a Hatsan Jet 2 ?
I'm sure. Maybe remove both air tubes, plug the top one and make an adapter for a bottle.
Shouldn't be a huge project I wouldn't think.
How do I get that adapter?
will this bottle conversion fit onto the Umarex Zelos?
I don't think so even though they are made by the same company.
The Snowpeak M60B is the same gun as the Zelos and offered in 177 to 30 cal and the "B" is for bottle.
Converting the Zelos may actually be more expensive
Mine does degass like that. I took the screw out no degassing
I just realized the Z block I got was leaking out the gauge glass the glass and rim got filed down by the regulator due to packing
I got the aluminum Z block you got there but now I need a gauge and fill port that fits between the
Tank and Z block
I know I’m driving you nuts
You got a link
That sucks. They can be a pain to match up but they are cheap.
I think I got a few gauges from Amazon for like 5 bucks each
Excellent video . Friend. Could you do me a favor and send me your contact information where I bought the valve with the adapter for the natos that says from Canada?
Contact Wes at Airgun Archery and Fun in Canada. The last I knew he was out but maybe he can get more in soon
I got that aluminum one and it is not timed
Extremely informative!
Where did you get the Gurlleu .42L bottle?
Ebay. I think I found a seller that has a US warehouse so I didn't have to wait long
@@kidpellet6544 Do you know the sellers name? I can't seem to find that bottle on eBay. TIA
Loosing is raising pressure and tightening is turning down
Thanks for the Upload....really good stuff. Keep uploading more Vidoes....subscribed.
Great video and informative
Cool stuff it mat have been a little long but you went into a lot of detail anyway I'm subscribing you seem to know your stuff👍👍👍👍
You guys are tooo Lucky 💕👍
I’m so close to what you showed me
After buying three different regulators
Simply outstanding!👍🏿👍🏼👍🏾👍🏽👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿👏👏🏻
Very good informative videos sir 👍
I have mine turning out a 16 grain pellet at 980 fps
long video are great especially for some one that doesn't know how to do it and want to lean short vids don't give you enough information lots missing 👍
good video and info great job
That's freaking awesome
if they made a couple different threaded adapters to put a stock valve on the drop block they would sell why more. the valve it comes with doesn't fit any stock air gun
I'm not really following you
the universal drop blocks not every valve 16/1 thread if they made adapters so people could thread in different valves they would sell more @@kidpellet6544
You need to make me one for my
@@edlyli7166 I made a couple of adapters that could be installed at home without any machine work. They used a regulated paintball type bottle and worked really well.
Was just get some gauges in to show the regulated pressure and some long pic rails to mount under the bottom for bipods.
Then this Z-valve came out and was less than half what I had in time and material. I liked the Z-valve so much I got several for myself lol.
The ones i made are on a shelf unfinished until I come up with another idea.
some time the Chinese chop stick in wood are a great trick you can hammer it into the head of the Allen head and use it to start the screw in a pinch
Thanks great video.
Timing - or you could just add a seal washer to it in lieu of all the work in sanding.