I understand why the Notos is the perfect gun to modify and experiment with but short, compact, lightweight is the reason I purchased the Notos to begin with. Cool video, thanks for sharing.
I'm glad you mentioned those transfer port O-rings. I fixed my brother's Hatsan Jet, which had a leak, and all it was is that one of the O-rings had a teeny tiny nick in it.
Right out of the box, most Notos are shooting 765~770 FPS and 18.5 FPE with the 14.3gr Crosman Premier Hollow Point. After spending $160 on parts to only gain 1.5 to 2 FPE and less than 50 FPS, that doesn't sound like a worthy upgrade at all. If you want more shot count, higher FPS and FPE, you might as well skip the Notos and go straight for the Zelos/M60B for about $500 on sales a few times a year.
I bet there's some super cheap mods for a notos that you can do with just your workshop and few extra parts you need to buy. But yeah out the box it's good enough. I bet adding oil to "diesel" the pellets would increase your power easier
I just got my Notos 2 weeks ago but I had to do this mod asap, thanks for the details they helped a lot. My poor compressor hates me now as I baby it to only 50C and it takes 5x cycles to fill my .35L. can't wait to test her out this weekend. This is actually really fun to hot-rod pcp in a way I can't do on my rimfire.
Nice build, that shows the true limits of the most popular pcp of 2024! And 800+fps is plenty power to do what you need, out to about 50-75yds. Have you considered removing the moderator (you can remove it fairly easily, if you have a lathe. And you can save it, thread it, and re-use it on your Notos, or any other 22cal) and polishing the barrel? I'm just thinking of the simple mods that help with accuracy and get you a few more fps...
💡The best setting for this configuration is to set your regulator in between 18mpa and 19mpa and screw your hammer screw all the way in, and you'll achieve 890fps with 15.43gn pellets, at least that's what I'm getting without boring out my breech💥👍 Also with that particular plenum you don't have to take your gun apart to install it👍👍🏽👍🏼👍🏿👍🏾
Yep, I’ve got it in the range of 17.5-18mpa. Anyone messed with the spring stack configuration? I took this one apart because I was getting regulator creep and found that the spring stack is quite a strange configuration. (((())))((((. I tried all sorts of configurations but this is the only one that worked at all.
@@MSRWorkshop No I haven't been inside of it YET😂 I was getting that stupid creeping from my regulator as well, so I set it just a hair behind the 20mpa mark and after a few magazines being fed through it, it finally settled between the 18 and 19mpa mark and hasn't moved since and that's perfect in my opinion, so I put just a dab of red locktite on the regulator adjusting screw without moving it and it's been that way for the past 10 months now👍👍🏽👍🏼👍🏿👍🏾
Just got my upgrade parts from ALIEXPRESS…will be doing the same conversion next week. Great video. Btw your barrel and buffer tube…is that just a carbon fiber wrap vinyl?
Right now it’s just a carbon fiber wrapped vinyl. If I did an FX barrel upgrade, it’s about $130 for the barrel and then another 110 for the sleeve so the price is really start to jump on this gun if you want to keep it budget
I used that same drop block. I gauges started to leak pretty soon. The reg creep was horrible. I took it apart and replaced all the o rings now the creep is less but still there.
How is the shot count? I imagine it is quite a bit better then the tube. One thing you may want to look into doing is porting out the transfer holes. I have been told this greatly increases power, although it also greatly decreases shot count.
I messed mine up. Ended up removing too much on the threaded part with my belt sander. now when i hand tighten it, it goes a tab too much forward causing it to not be straight with the notos. I can align it but it isn't tight enough. I couldn't sleep last night overthinking about a solution. What i came up with was a 1mm spacer between the notos and the pressure block. The other option was to insert a hollow tube of aluminium so that the threads bottom out a 1mm sooner. ugghhh
Awesome job!! Now, if you REALLY want to make a difference .... Figure out how to convert the Umarex Komplete NCR .22 Caliber NitroAir PCP Pellet Rifle to a standard carbon fiber tank! lol That would convert a really good budget rifle to a GREAT budget rifle!
I have questions I bought a umarex notos but my notos is doesn’t change My problem is when I push air in, the air goes into the tank and then the air comes out of the barrel. I can't use this air gun should I return is?
What’s your number of shots per fill? Just finished my conversion today and my gun its only shooting about 10 to 15 shots per fill. It depletes the air very quickly
@@diegocarvalho8669 are you actually filling the bottle because it doesn’t sound like it. It sounds more like you’re just filling the Plenum block. With a 300 cc bottle filled I’ve currently got 90 shots on it and only moved 100 bars, so that should give me somewhere around 200 shots give or take. I haven’t shot it to empty yet.
@@MSRWorkshop OMG! I feel so stupid right now! I forgot that i did messed with that allen screw in the block before the bottle! It was closed, you were right i was just filling the block with air 🤦🏻♂️ what a moron! Thanks for pointing that out to me
💡Yes, the best setting that I've found is to set the regulator to 18mpa -19mpa giving me 890fps with 15.43gn pellets, and also have to turn the hammer spring all the way in💥👍
Yes but I think with the added pressure it wasn’t opening the valve all the way so my FPS actually got worse.. I’m going to see if I can get a lighter valve spring and see what results I get
@@MSRWorkshop Ah I see, I think thats what happening to my 2240 build. Stock valve wont see gains going from 1200 psi to 1500 psi. Also I hear you can use one off a chaser/cp1/2/bandit. Or clip and stretch it maybe.
@@miguelarias27 it depends what you’re end goal is. The zealous is a great gun but is still limited on shots just like the Umarex. You can do a bottle conversion on the Zelos but your spending quite a bit more that just doing the Notos. If you get the aftermarket barrel adaptor and use the FX liner then you’re probably adding about 100fps at which point you can turn your regular down if you want and get even more shots, or leave it turned up and have some high power. And with the FX superior liners you’ll be adding a big increase in accuracy as well. Lots of options. :)
Thanks! Been wondering what was the benefit but couldn’t even find a how to vid. Happy you did this! I love my notos for target shooting and hunting. Ive been able to hunt longer with my airgun than my old shotgun. If any modification is an upgrade, Ill try it!
@@fireemblemistrash75 I’ve been loving it so far. Shot count is amazing, i’ve gone through 90 shots from 300 bars down to the bottom, half of the yellow 200 bars and it’s still going. Makes it a bit heavier that stock but it’s still simple to haul around
Yeah that might help a bit, but aesthetically I think they look stupid. I know some people have added 2-3 of them. It reminds me of the time in Pirates of the Caribbean when Jack Sparrow pulled out his ridiculously long looking glass…. Same idea. I’m trying to balance aesthetics with function.
........I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why people are spending any time or many in this low power ( toy ). I have it along other several rifles and this is nothing to write home about it, no matter all the modifications and upgrades.....
@@fernandog.aguirre2791 Because it’s fun. I look at it as a challenge, can I take this budget pcp and make a semi premium gun without spending ridiculous amounts of money. Plus could I take this gun and compete with someone else’s high dollar gun. Imagine shooting next to someone with a DAYSTATE and kicking their butt with an Umarex Notos that you built! There are lots of reasons. These are just a few of mine
@ that’s a long way for the short of a barrel. Not saying it couldn’t be done, but I’m not sure I’m that good of a shooter and haven’t shot it at that distance. There is someone online selling aftermarket barrels that use FX liners and you can get either a 350 mm barrel or a 500 mm barrel which usually a log barrel should give you another hundred feet/s making it much more accurate as well . That upgrade is around $250 If I do that video, I’ll end up making another post and let you know how it goes
I understand why the Notos is the perfect gun to modify and experiment with but short, compact, lightweight is the reason I purchased the Notos to begin with. Cool video, thanks for sharing.
I'm glad you mentioned those transfer port O-rings. I fixed my brother's Hatsan Jet, which had a leak, and all it was is that one of the O-rings had a teeny tiny nick in it.
I’ve returned 2 of them 😂, wonder if that was what it was….now I have an air Venturi avenger bullpulp 2 so I’m not that sad
@@PepeSmuggins Yea possibly could have been the issue. I heard those avenger bullpups are pretty slick.
Best notos upgrade video yet🤙 nice job
Thanks
Outstanding tutorial and workmanship. Thank you for posting it.
Glad you liked it
Right out of the box, most Notos are shooting 765~770 FPS and 18.5 FPE with the 14.3gr Crosman Premier Hollow Point. After spending $160 on parts to only gain 1.5 to 2 FPE and less than 50 FPS, that doesn't sound like a worthy upgrade at all. If you want more shot count, higher FPS and FPE, you might as well skip the Notos and go straight for the Zelos/M60B for about $500 on sales a few times a year.
Biggest improvement for me was a huge upgrade in shot count.
Shot count is why I would do it.
Make sense
I bet there's some super cheap mods for a notos that you can do with just your workshop and few extra parts you need to buy. But yeah out the box it's good enough.
I bet adding oil to "diesel" the pellets would increase your power easier
I just got my Notos 2 weeks ago but I had to do this mod asap, thanks for the details they helped a lot. My poor compressor hates me now as I baby it to only 50C and it takes 5x cycles to fill my .35L. can't wait to test her out this weekend. This is actually really fun to hot-rod pcp in a way I can't do on my rimfire.
Glad the process has been fun.🤩
thank you for the sharing... very good imformation about this notos, going to buy one of this pcp
It would be great if you could do a precision test too. At least at 50+ yards and see the grouping’s results.
Thanks and more power.
Good job. Maybe a Longer Fx barrel? There is a guy on ebay that sells the mod
Yea! I have been eyeing them :)
Nice build, that shows the true limits of the most popular pcp of 2024!
And 800+fps is plenty power to do what you need, out to about 50-75yds.
Have you considered removing the moderator (you can remove it fairly easily, if you have a lathe. And you can save it, thread it, and re-use it on your Notos, or any other 22cal) and polishing the barrel?
I'm just thinking of the simple mods that help with accuracy and get you a few more fps...
@@jbplays7302 yes that might be next as well as an fx barrel upgrade… we’ll see 😉
where did you get the carbon fiber covers for barrel shroud and tank?
Should be in the description with where to buy.
But the barrel is a carbon wrap and the tank is actually carbon fiber
💡The best setting for this configuration is to set your regulator in between 18mpa and 19mpa and screw your hammer screw all the way in, and you'll achieve 890fps with 15.43gn pellets, at least that's what I'm getting without boring out my breech💥👍 Also with that particular plenum you don't have to take your gun apart to install it👍👍🏽👍🏼👍🏿👍🏾
Yep, I’ve got it in the range of 17.5-18mpa.
Anyone messed with the spring stack configuration?
I took this one apart because I was getting regulator creep and found that the spring stack is quite a strange configuration.
(((())))((((. I tried all sorts of configurations but this is the only one that worked at all.
@@MSRWorkshop No I haven't been inside of it YET😂 I was getting that stupid creeping from my regulator as well, so I set it just a hair behind the 20mpa mark and after a few magazines being fed through it, it finally settled between the 18 and 19mpa mark and hasn't moved since and that's perfect in my opinion, so I put just a dab of red locktite on the regulator adjusting screw without moving it and it's been that way for the past 10 months now👍👍🏽👍🏼👍🏿👍🏾
What particular plenum
The Battle Bottle.
Just got my upgrade parts from ALIEXPRESS…will be doing the same conversion next week. Great video. Btw your barrel and buffer tube…is that just a carbon fiber wrap vinyl?
Right now it’s just a carbon fiber wrapped vinyl.
If I did an FX barrel upgrade, it’s about $130 for the barrel and then another 110 for the sleeve so the price is really start to jump on this gun if you want to keep it budget
@diegocarvalho8669 I got the huben dream valve and a tuxing 500cc bottle, the valve is 15 days out though....
@051Jerrett sad. I ended up getting my bottle through Amazon because I didn’t wanna wait a month for it.
@MSRWorkshop yeah the bottle I bought from Amazon as well it will be here Thursday, but the huben valve says 15 day delivery 🤦♂️
I used that same drop block. I gauges started to leak pretty soon. The reg creep was horrible. I took it apart and replaced all the o rings now the creep is less but still there.
thank you
How is the shot count? I imagine it is quite a bit better then the tube.
One thing you may want to look into doing is porting out the transfer holes. I have been told this greatly increases power, although it also greatly decreases shot count.
It’s crazy better. I shot about 90 and maybe gone down 100 bars, so 300 to 200.
I messed mine up. Ended up removing too much on the threaded part with my belt sander. now when i hand tighten it, it goes a tab too much forward causing it to not be straight with the notos. I can align it but it isn't tight enough. I couldn't sleep last night overthinking about a solution. What i came up with was a 1mm spacer between the notos and the pressure block. The other option was to insert a hollow tube of aluminium so that the threads bottom out a 1mm sooner. ugghhh
11:21 I’m not gonna drill mine imma keep it and order a bigger one
How much is the bottle ? And I love it . I just found another airgun channel like me . I subscribed 🔥
The bottle was around 100.
There’s a link in the description where I got it
Awesome job!! Now, if you REALLY want to make a difference .... Figure out how to convert the Umarex Komplete NCR .22 Caliber NitroAir PCP Pellet Rifle to a standard carbon fiber tank! lol That would convert a really good budget rifle to a GREAT budget rifle!
After all the upgrades whats the weight of the gun? I know stock specs are 4 lbs.
My guess is maybe three more pounds, but I’m not entirely sure. I haven’t weighed it.
I have questions I bought a umarex notos but my notos is doesn’t change My problem is when I push air in, the air goes into the tank and then the air comes out of the barrel. I can't use this air gun should I return is?
So if your tank is completely empty, the first time you pressurize the gun, you need to actually caulk the charging handle and then it should hold air
What’s your number of shots per fill? Just finished my conversion today and my gun its only shooting about 10 to 15 shots per fill. It depletes the air very quickly
@@diegocarvalho8669 are you actually filling the bottle because it doesn’t sound like it. It sounds more like you’re just filling the Plenum block.
With a 300 cc bottle filled I’ve currently got 90 shots on it and only moved 100 bars, so that should give me somewhere around 200 shots give or take. I haven’t shot it to empty yet.
@@MSRWorkshop OMG! I feel so stupid right now! I forgot that i did messed with that allen screw in the block before the bottle! It was closed, you were right i was just filling the block with air 🤦🏻♂️ what a moron! Thanks for pointing that out to me
@diegocarvalho8669 🤣I did the same thing 🤫
😂 I did the same thing 🤫
Now, just add some oil to the pellets and tell us how much faster/more powerful it is.
So 20ftlb max, you gained 2ftlbs after everything? Something is not adding up you should be around 25ftlbs id guess
💡Yes, the best setting that I've found is to set the regulator to 18mpa -19mpa giving me 890fps with 15.43gn pellets, and also have to turn the hammer spring all the way in💥👍
Can you turn the regulator up? The stock one is 1900 psi
Yes but I think with the added pressure it wasn’t opening the valve all the way so my FPS actually got worse..
I’m going to see if I can get a lighter valve spring and see what results I get
@@MSRWorkshop Ah I see, I think thats what happening to my 2240 build. Stock valve wont see gains going from 1200 psi to 1500 psi.
Also I hear you can use one off a chaser/cp1/2/bandit. Or clip and stretch it maybe.
Which is better Notos+mod or zelos???
@@miguelarias27 it depends what you’re end goal is.
The zealous is a great gun but is still limited on shots just like the Umarex. You can do a bottle conversion on the Zelos but your spending quite a bit more that just doing the Notos. If you get the aftermarket barrel adaptor and use the FX liner then you’re probably adding about 100fps at which point you can turn your regular down if you want and get even more shots, or leave it turned up and have some high power. And with the FX superior liners you’ll be adding a big increase in accuracy as well. Lots of options. :)
Thanks! Been wondering what was the benefit but couldn’t even find a how to vid. Happy you did this!
I love my notos for target shooting and hunting. Ive been able to hunt longer with my airgun than my old shotgun. If any modification is an upgrade, Ill try it!
@@fireemblemistrash75 I’ve been loving it so far. Shot count is amazing, i’ve gone through 90 shots from 300 bars down to the bottom, half of the yellow 200 bars and it’s still going. Makes it a bit heavier that stock but it’s still simple to haul around
Redo the test w the plentium on it
Yeah that might help a bit, but aesthetically I think they look stupid. I know some people have added 2-3 of them. It reminds me of the time in Pirates of the Caribbean when Jack Sparrow pulled out his ridiculously long looking glass…. Same idea.
I’m trying to balance aesthetics with function.
........I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why people are spending any time or many in this low power ( toy ). I have it along other several rifles and this is nothing to write home about it, no matter all the modifications and upgrades.....
@@fernandog.aguirre2791 Because it’s fun. I look at it as a challenge, can I take this budget pcp and make a semi premium gun without spending ridiculous amounts of money. Plus could I take this gun and compete with someone else’s high dollar gun. Imagine shooting next to someone with a DAYSTATE and kicking their butt with an Umarex Notos that you built!
There are lots of reasons. These are just a few of mine
great upgrade. How much it will cost?
The Z block is about $23 and the carbon bottle is about 110.
@ wow. How precisely is this gun from 100-150 yards?
@ how you did this upgrade i am very impressed! If i buy one could you do that in my rifle? I pay it.
@ that’s a long way for the short of a barrel. Not saying it couldn’t be done, but I’m not sure I’m that good of a shooter and haven’t shot it at that distance.
There is someone online selling aftermarket barrels that use FX liners and you can get either a 350 mm barrel or a 500 mm barrel which usually a log barrel should give you another hundred feet/s making it much more accurate as well .
That upgrade is around $250
If I do that video, I’ll end up making another post and let you know how it goes
@ ok. But could you do that upgrade on my?