Really waiting for your lw barrel conversion video, i want to do this also 4 my notos. Keep up the good work with the videos i enjoy them. Greetings from Amsterdam
250 MPA = 3650 PSI same as mine and my LCS. Perfect pressure for a great shot count. My Avengers and Liberties fill to 4351 or 300 Bar and I’ll only get a few near that pressure so I started filling to 250 Bar/25MPA on them plus cascading my tanks for maximum shot count and cylinder pressure. Cascading works great. Sorry for the edit but for new bees “Cascading” is when you have 2 HPA tanks and you use 1 to do the main part of the filling say it will get up to 3000 PSI or 207 Bar but your other tank you only use to top off above 3K psi. Then the other tank has more pressure like 4300-4500PSI or 310 Bar/31 MPA at the top end to top off. Pretty simple really and I just wasted my time and yours. Sorry
Lol, not wasting time at all. I used to only have a couple of airguns and not regulated so I mapped them for shot count and fill pressures. My tanks gave me plenty of fills on those. I find myself with more and more airguns that fill to 4500, especially all the ones that I've done the conversions on. So I got a portable 18v compressor to fill the gun itself all the way. I get plenty of shots without filling all the way to 4500 but I use the compressor anyway.
@@ItAintMeBabe99 I lightly polished the parts and changed to spring out with a lighter spring. Unfortunately it's a single stage trigger and adjusting the screw only shortens the engagement. If you keep turning it in it will become a hair trigger and usually disables the safety. I found a happy medium I can live with though
ebay has the psi gauges i change out all of mine for both mm threads. i was wondering if you have seen a drozd black bird or bumble bee before there one of the bedsit full auto hpa bb gun ever made once molded shoot 4k rounds a min and 1000 round mag 1100 psi input 1000fps. i didn't see one in the collection.
I've seen them but dont have one. The coolest full auto I have is the Beretta 92 co2 pistol and a few full auto electric airsoft pistols and rifles. Have a blast with them all
I have a question, so I ordered one of these z blocks off eBay, and can't get any info on the range of adjustment. I've adjusted regs on other PCP with no problem. This one I've adjusted All the way out and it's maxed out t 1800psi, didn't know if this was the normal. Just wanting your opinion, not able to get response from seller about any adjustment range capabilities. It shoots fine, but I've lost 50 fps as getting 750 now down to 700 with CPHP,. I wanted to be able to run a bit heavier pellet maybe closer to 800 or above?🤔
The two that I have on my Notos and Origin have been higher than 2500 psi. I mean, if you back the screw out far enough it should go up to whatever your tank pressure is. Are you sure you have enough air in the tank? Also, did you get the model that has the set screw/valve that turns the bottle off like the one I talked about in the video? Is it opened? Just some stuff to check
Do you know what the thread size is for the shroud? I have a lathe and would like to make my own plenum and barrel kit adapter instead of buying one. Appreciate it. Thanks.
@@ThePadutch I think a few guys are getting more power with some tuning but when they were first being used I don't think anyone got any more power. Just a few more shots per fill
Referencing the Regulator Gauge...Can a PSI Scaled Gauge be utilized..or..is it advantageous if not preferable, to use the MPA Gauge for perhaps more finite scaling...? THANKS!!!
I personally prefer psi but I don't think a person could get a more accurate reading from any of them. The reason is because these small gauges are all pretty much the same with a different face plate. If you look at the face plate as a clock the needle only moves about 1/3 of the total face to read from 0 to the max pressure shown. Some gauges that read up to 6k are even worse because the needle only moves about 1/4 of the face to go from 0 to 4.5k. The increments are so small and close together it's hard to tell what the actual pressure is with any accuracy. Larger gauges like 2.5 inch diameter tend to use 1/2 to 2/3 of the total face from 0 to max pressure and getting one that's specific to the pressure range you need means it will usually have more increments so you can be more accurate with the pressure readings. You can also get some very expensive gauges that are calibrated and certified. For me I just want to know that a reg I set up at a certain pressure has the same pressure later on and isn't changing. If you only have one regulated gun to keep up with its probably not a big deal but if you have a few that all have different reg pressures you'll find yourself taking notes. If your gun ever starts giving you problems you'll appreciate those notes. I use hang tags with info like projectiles, velocities, reg pressures, shots per fill etc. I take a gun out of the rack, read the tag then put the tag in the empty spot in the rack. Sure helps a lot when you have more than a few guns to keep up with.
Do you have any idea how to service these regulator? My reg isn't working anymore, probably some o-ring that has blown. When I fill the bottle, the reg gauge shows the same pressure as the bottle gauge. I've opened it up but I can't find what is wrong inside the drop block. All the o-rings on the bolt look okay.
I'm gonna put a little longer barrel on this one so I think I want to start off with high power and tune down from there. I had my other Notos cranked up and a shim under the hammer spring getting 24ish fpe. It had pretty good power but lost a lot of accuracy. Got it back to around 18 fpe now lol. This Notos though I'm gonna hotrod a little
About how high can you go with foot pounds on this gun, say if you were to also replace the barrel for something longer and everything maxed out? Was doing some reading and it looks like FX regulates their .22 at 2200 psi or close to that.
I can get about 24 fpe out of the two I have. It wastes a lot of air so you could for sure get more power with a longer barrel. There's a guy on Ebay doing a plenum kit and an FX barrel for them. Not sure what his specs are for power but i would guess at least 30 fpe. Look for "c88 machining" on Ebay and maybe he has some info with it all.
So when you do a bottle conversion on the gun do you fill it up to the 4500 that the new bottle and regulator rated for or stick to the 3600 fill pressure that the gun was stock?
4500 psi per bottle. One thing to remember is IF the regulator fails then the full bottle pressure can get to the rest of the parts used in the conversion and gun itself. The PCP fun has probably been tested by the manufacturer to higher pressure than the maximum fill pressure to be safe in case of accidental overfill and such. If you make a part or adapter and don't test it for maximum fill pressure it could be the weak link in you build
@@Tom-jw1pe it's not my idea of a benchrest competition gun but I can hit a soup can hung over a t-post at 100 yards almost every shot. Seems to be more accurate at 18 fpe than at 24 fpe though.
@@edgaralejandre1522 you could definitely do it that way. I explained a couple of the regulators in another video. One of them has a valve to close it off from the bottle so you wouldn't have to empty the bottle to lower the pressure. The other valve came with the very small volume test bottle so you don't waste a lot of air setting the reg. This small test bottle also works on paintball regs
Really waiting for your lw barrel conversion video, i want to do this also 4 my notos.
Keep up the good work with the videos i enjoy them.
Greetings from Amsterdam
Great video man. Waiting to get one of these from Wes soon!
Thanks for the video, just order adjustable z-valve and .35L bottle, can't wait. Thanks again
250 MPA = 3650 PSI same as mine and my LCS. Perfect pressure for a great shot count. My Avengers and Liberties fill to 4351 or 300 Bar and I’ll only get a few near that pressure so I started filling to 250 Bar/25MPA on them plus cascading my tanks for maximum shot count and cylinder pressure. Cascading works great. Sorry for the edit but for new bees “Cascading” is when you have 2 HPA tanks and you use 1 to do the main part of the filling say it will get up to 3000 PSI or 207 Bar but your other tank you only use to top off above 3K psi. Then the other tank has more pressure like 4300-4500PSI or 310 Bar/31 MPA at the top end to top off. Pretty simple really and I just wasted my time and yours. Sorry
Lol, not wasting time at all.
I used to only have a couple of airguns and not regulated so I mapped them for shot count and fill pressures.
My tanks gave me plenty of fills on those.
I find myself with more and more airguns that fill to 4500, especially all the ones that I've done the conversions on.
So I got a portable 18v compressor to fill the gun itself all the way.
I get plenty of shots without filling all the way to 4500 but I use the compressor anyway.
Great points and ideas..surely, no waste of time!!!
Damn that little bottle holds a lot of
Just that tiny block adapter and all that power
It's externally adjustable so it's really easy to turn up to maximum power. That makes it really nice
Ela devi fica mais fraca ne pq não tem precamera
Original e mais forte.
Faz uma conografagem pra nós ver a potência
Great video! Is there anything that can be done to the trigger ? They are terrible!
@@ItAintMeBabe99 I lightly polished the parts and changed to spring out with a lighter spring. Unfortunately it's a single stage trigger and adjusting the screw only shortens the engagement. If you keep turning it in it will become a hair trigger and usually disables the safety. I found a happy medium I can live with though
@ Kid, thanks for the reply. Too bad someone doesn’t make an after market kit to improve the trigger. If that is even possible.
@ItAintMeBabe99 someone is making a tactical style grip for it but I don't know anything about it. Maybe check out the Notos FB group
Hey man, I would love to get one of those regulated block
Ali Express "Airforce Z-block"
@@kidpellet6544 will do
ebay has the psi gauges i change out all of mine for both mm threads. i was wondering if you have seen a drozd black bird or bumble bee before there one of the bedsit full auto hpa bb gun ever made once molded shoot 4k rounds a min and 1000 round mag 1100 psi input 1000fps. i didn't see one in the collection.
I've seen them but dont have one. The coolest full auto I have is the Beretta 92 co2 pistol and a few full auto electric airsoft pistols and rifles. Have a blast with them all
Yes they are, I have 2 of them and they're the best most powerful bb guns in existence👍🏽👍🏾👍🏼👍🏿👍
I have a question, so I ordered one of these z blocks off eBay, and can't get any info on the range of adjustment. I've adjusted regs on other PCP with no problem. This one I've adjusted All the way out and it's maxed out t 1800psi, didn't know if this was the normal. Just wanting your opinion, not able to get response from seller about any adjustment range capabilities.
It shoots fine, but I've lost 50 fps as getting 750 now down to 700 with CPHP,. I wanted to be able to run a bit heavier pellet maybe closer to 800 or above?🤔
The two that I have on my Notos and Origin have been higher than 2500 psi. I mean, if you back the screw out far enough it should go up to whatever your tank pressure is. Are you sure you have enough air in the tank? Also, did you get the model that has the set screw/valve that turns the bottle off like the one I talked about in the video? Is it opened? Just some stuff to check
@@kidpellet6544 Tank pressure was at 3500 psi and I had the screw backed off all the way finger loose almost ready to fall out.
@@RedCornOutdoors gotta be a problem with that reg. Are you in either Notos group on FB?
@@kidpellet6544 no
Do you know what the thread size is for the shroud? I have a lathe and would like to make my own plenum and barrel kit adapter instead of buying one. Appreciate it. Thanks.
What will your shot count be with that setup?
Would there actually be any discernible improvement putting a plenum between the regulator and the block?
@@ThePadutch I think a few guys are getting more power with some tuning but when they were first being used I don't think anyone got any more power. Just a few more shots per fill
Referencing the Regulator Gauge...Can a PSI Scaled Gauge be utilized..or..is it advantageous if not preferable, to use the MPA Gauge for perhaps more finite scaling...? THANKS!!!
I personally prefer psi but I don't think a person could get a more accurate reading from any of them. The reason is because these small gauges are all pretty much the same with a different face plate.
If you look at the face plate as a clock the needle only moves about 1/3 of the total face to read from 0 to the max pressure shown.
Some gauges that read up to 6k are even worse because the needle only moves about 1/4 of the face to go from 0 to 4.5k. The increments are so small and close together it's hard to tell what the actual pressure is with any accuracy.
Larger gauges like 2.5 inch diameter tend to use 1/2 to 2/3 of the total face from 0 to max pressure and getting one that's specific to the pressure range you need means it will usually have more increments so you can be more accurate with the pressure readings.
You can also get some very expensive gauges that are calibrated and certified.
For me I just want to know that a reg I set up at a certain pressure has the same pressure later on and isn't changing.
If you only have one regulated gun to keep up with its probably not a big deal but if you have a few that all have different reg pressures you'll find yourself taking notes.
If your gun ever starts giving you problems you'll appreciate those notes.
I use hang tags with info like projectiles, velocities, reg pressures, shots per fill etc. I take a gun out of the rack, read the tag then put the tag in the empty spot in the rack.
Sure helps a lot when you have more than a few guns to keep up with.
Is the block itself just hand tight? Thanks for the vids.
Yes, just hand tight. When you put air to it you can still move it but its really hard
@@kidpellet6544Thanks for the reply. When I install my block, hand tight its not lined up right. Am I OK to back it off 1 turn and still be ok to use?
@@steelcold3912 I believe it will push the oring out from between the block and part 66
could you tell me the size of the oring on the thread when you remove the original cyliner
Do you have any idea how to service these regulator? My reg isn't working anymore, probably some o-ring that has blown. When I fill the bottle, the reg gauge shows the same pressure as the bottle gauge. I've opened it up but I can't find what is wrong inside the drop block. All the o-rings on the bolt look okay.
The Notos is a great gun ! With the JSB 15.89's i'm getting 721 fps and shooting hole in hole at 50 yards !!
I'm gonna put a little longer barrel on this one so I think I want to start off with high power and tune down from there.
I had my other Notos cranked up and a shim under the hammer spring getting 24ish fpe. It had pretty good power but lost a lot of accuracy.
Got it back to around 18 fpe now lol.
This Notos though I'm gonna hotrod a little
@@kidpellet6544 👍👍
@@kidpellet6544Like your idea of putting a longer barrel, currently it has such a short barrel make it not efficient when trying to have higher energy
Do you have a link for that
Actually the gun has a bleed screw on the left side of the gun on the frame.
It’s silver colored screw
About how high can you go with foot pounds on this gun, say if you were to also replace the barrel for something longer and everything maxed out? Was doing some reading and it looks like FX regulates their .22 at 2200 psi or close to that.
I can get about 24 fpe out of the two I have. It wastes a lot of air so you could for sure get more power with a longer barrel.
There's a guy on Ebay doing a plenum kit and an FX barrel for them. Not sure what his specs are for power but i would guess at least 30 fpe.
Look for "c88 machining" on Ebay and maybe he has some info with it all.
@@kidpellet6544 thank you!
Thank you.
So when you do a bottle conversion on the gun do you fill it up to the 4500 that the new bottle and regulator rated for or stick to the 3600 fill pressure that the gun was stock?
4500 psi per bottle. One thing to remember is IF the regulator fails then the full bottle pressure can get to the rest of the parts used in the conversion and gun itself. The PCP fun has probably been tested by the manufacturer to higher pressure than the maximum fill pressure to be safe in case of accidental overfill and such.
If you make a part or adapter and don't test it for maximum fill pressure it could be the weak link in you build
Nice video ! What kind of what kind of block and regulator is that ? Thanks
Its sold on Ali Express as an Airforce Z-Block
@@kidpellet6544Thanks for the information
Maybe I'll get the new notos
Excellent
What velocity were u getting at 17.5mpa setting?
765- 770 with 18.13's
How’s the accuracy at 17.5 mpa?
@@Tom-jw1pe it's not my idea of a benchrest competition gun but I can hit a soup can hung over a t-post at 100 yards almost every shot. Seems to be more accurate at 18 fpe than at 24 fpe though.
@@kidpellet6544 I agree… 2600psi a shot goes thru cans easy.. I’m using 30grain slugs…
I need the first video
Is it gone?
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Where do you get after market barrel's
I picked up a few from Ebay
Thank you
Awesome!
why couldn,t you have done all this with the bottle installed and save a few steps?
@@edgaralejandre1522 you could definitely do it that way. I explained a couple of the regulators in another video. One of them has a valve to close it off from the bottle so you wouldn't have to empty the bottle to lower the pressure. The other valve came with the very small volume test bottle so you don't waste a lot of air setting the reg.
This small test bottle also works on paintball regs
Nice 😮
Ya I completely fucked mine up 😢