Man I haven't played war thunder in so long, but I remember the (good) times when this thing had a UFO flight model and was perfect for humbling beercan players. Sad to see it in this state.
Your point about high tier IJN/IJA planes seems perfectly fitting for my experience playing WT as a newbie. Everyone runs away from you, or they are all low on the deck and you are forced to dive towards them with your compression and your low energy retention while diving, or you choose to not climb and get boom and zoomed by Bf-109s or Lightnings. Or a bomber wins a head-on against you if you try to attack those.
@RYAN JONATHAN MARTIN Having learned a few more things about the Ki-43, you WANT people to try and dive on you, because you can evade them so easily. But I may be wrong, hope DEFYN makes a video on it some day.
Thank you for video Defyn. I´am glad someone like you draws attention to the problems with this fighter. This plane should get 5.0, because it barely can counter something like P-51 D30 due to it´s low performance. Unfortunately Gaijin will not listen any voices that say something Japanese with four cannons need lower BR. It´s useless to write on forum there is something wrong in WT because they will ban you for this with justification you insulting employees of Gaijin.
People running away from you is something usual when you play Japanese (starting Tier 3). Enough patience and engine management bring usually 2-3 kills per game. If you have it, would like to see your view on the J7W1!
N1K is surprisingly easy to get high kill matches, that's due to japanese teams. You won't carry matches in this thing but as a support it's really efficient
@@southweststrangla9591 So you gonna repeat what DEFYN said, is that it? Let me tell you a secret. What we, the normal players, and what DEFYN experience is totally different. He is in the top 300 players in Air Realistic for a reason. What he calls struggle, we call hell. So no matter the circumstances, 99% of the normal player base will not get a high kill game let alone an ace in this.
@@Reaf121286 I haven't fully watched video yet only like first minute, but if that's so then yes he's not wrong. If you don't believe him and me, just try it yourself it's not that hard if you are semi competent pilot, all it takes is just waiting and helping teammates. Also being very good at game =/= being godlike player, some planes he might struggle with just because of his playstyle. Also also most he does is down to bit of luck, patience and smart play, it's not like he's pulling some hard manouvers that would require monkey agility to pull off nor does he relay only on his aim, most cases aim just helps him get more kills due to killing faster, he doesn't really need plan b in case he misses. Rest is just bit of knowledge that you also can easilly get it just takes some time
Back in 2012-14 the N1K2s were pretty badass. For the longest time, the N1K2-Ja was my plane with the most kills for a very long time. Then bit by bit it got worse, there was a time when you'd get thrown in with early jets every game and now it just sits there gathering dust in my hangar. Kinda sad.
This aircraft was more competitive when it came out....... in 2013ish. I spaded it back then and didn't touch it until the other day. Totally outclassed today.
Okay, but the performance what the N1K2 had back then was absolutely irrealistic. The FM what it has now is good, I mean realistic. It's normal that it can't deal with Griffons anymore. The problem is it's BR.
Recently discovered I had the Pacific campaign Zero (back from 2013). Only wanted to use the free 30 repairs but in unlocking a lot of Japanese planes I kinda fell in love with them. Was debating to put a crew in the N1K but from the stats I didn’t see the point really. Seems I was right watching your video. Keep up the great work man :)
The Shiden's armament is probably what is keeping it at it's current BR, I would only hope that the repair cost can come down to match the performance. Inferior planes can still be great fun without the pressure from high repair cost.
Despite its obvious disadvantages and the fact that its grossly over tiered, I love my N1K2 Ja Shiden Kai, beautiful plane that's well armed. Nothing better than winning with the underdog
Also you said it perfectly, people just run away from you at high tiers and you end up just chasing people the entire match, generally ending in them AF camping.
Back when the game was first out and the N1k was one of the top dog props, it was seriously powerful and that is why it has remained in that battle rating till now, of course it does not perform at 6.3 with the other aircraft like the spitfire mk22 or the P51 H . The only capable way of playing this aircraft is with defensive flying and altitude advantage... which is a pain in the ass..
No, this plane is the Shiden-Kai, or violet lightning improved . Your nickname would be representative of the J7W with a jet engine in the rear (Shinden-Kai, or “magnificent lightning improved”). Close, but different.
Such a shame, I used to play Combat Flight Sim 2 Pacific when I was a lot younger and fell in love with it there. Was looking forward to it. Edit: post viewing, I think I will still like it. Looks like it still has the Japanese nimbly bimbly playstyle but with much tougher enemies.
I genuinely enjoy the N1K2s and do quite well in them (positive K/D is not an issue at all) but overall I agree that they are overtiered. The thing that keeps me from flying them more is not so much their BR but more so their ridiculous repair cost.
The most I remember of this plane is murdering F8Fs and facing P-80s (at the time) and F-84s. Also that time the B-57s could face this thing and we had to intercept them before they destroyed carriers. Also panicking against Griffin Spits.
Because for the most part, this plane still dominates in RB at that BR range. I know this is hard to believe, but it used to be that 99% of the time, your opponents would simply turnfight you in their superior planes. Nowadays, it's about 75% so there is a chance that you'll run into someone who actually will extend and use their speed/energy retention to make it so that you can't touch them.
@@BABiFun it boils down to three co-dependent factors: lack of experience/knowledge, desperation for RP (the grind), and bad teams. Allied teams tend to be bomber heavy which puts them at an automatic numerical disadvantage. Those bomber pilots tend to graduate into fighters they desperately want with little to no operational knowledge. Combined with the fact that they are desperate to grind up from the stock state of the plane, they make bad tactical decisions just to get a kill, even if that means sacrificing their plane. Those factors together make many allied teams bad generally, though they have gotten significantly better since they used to be 3-4 years ago.
When people run to base in a 2v1 with equal altitude then they deserve to be shit talked and embarrassed when their planes hit the ground bc they were too shit at the game to learn how to play properly.
I honestly don’t care about getting strafed gaijin really needs to nerf the AAA, had a dude from 5K alt dive and run to his AF because I was 1K above him, decided to camp the airfield for the entire game until the tickets runs out But I guess they were just playing differently
I personally run the tracer belts at 500m convergence, I personally really enjoy it but it has nice quirks that some would definitely dislike. I play it pretty passively and do much better than being aggressive with it.
Overtiered is right. However N1K1-Ja is just about right at 5.3, one of my favorite japanese planes in fact. Same performance as the K2, but half the cannon ammo and some 7.7s. I find it performs really well at altitude against P51s and lower tier Spits, who are generally extremely overconfident with their space climbing and aren't ready for anyone to turn into them. The J7W1 is still my favorite higher tier Japanese prop though - eats fighters for lunch at high altitude.
I don't understand why ppl call this vehicle trash, i love it, its not a Ki 84, but it definitely turns better than most other planes ot goea up against, especially if you uae flaps correctly. The cannons aren't great either, but they get the job done.
Honestly, I dont know why I love this thing, I have over 1000 battles with it and even tho I knew all of this what you said, I still love it. When I face it, I know its an easy kill, cant do shit to my beloved american planes, but when I use it, I just love it. I also have over 1000 battles with the Ki-84 and I would like that thing, but in 6.3 its worse than the N1K2 in 6.0 IMO, and the 5.7 one is a suffer because of the guns. And if you think the N1K2 compresses badly at higher speed, then oh boi, you gonna cry when you fly out the J2M5. :D That is...oh boi....much worse. :D
Nice turn.... good joke there because it gets slapped by anything that also has a semi competent turn time (~18 - 20 sec on stat card) due to its bad engine making this thing bleed all speed in 2 - 3 loops. Its a dogfighter that can't dogfight with its bad FM rn and horrible BR placement due to the borked FMs of yester-year
It makes sense, since the Zeros are trash and can't touch anything if the allied player knows how to use his plane, while the Ki-84 actually can be a threat.
I've generally had a better time in this than the Ki-84, but I can't really put my finger on why. The ki-84 just doesn't work for me like n1k does. Maybe it's the Ho-5s, or the sort of weird way the ki-84 handles. Or the Ja model somehow flies better than the J (doubtful). Then again I've always been a bit weird in air RB and my choices can sometimes be... interesting.
I have over 1000 battles with the Ki-84 and over 1000 battles with the N1K2 and I can tell you that I also enjoy more the N1K2, simply because it has firepower. Although the Ki-84 is truly a better plane, it does truly everything better, but it doesn't matter if it's cannons doesn't do shit and also has less ammo with higher rate of fire. If the Hei one would be 6.0, then I would play that often, but being 6.3 is just pathetically ridiculous. Gaijin has no clue how they should BR the planes.
I spaded both variants while they were 6.3, facing -F84s constantly. That was almost bomber level painful grinding. To properly abuse this thing, you need to abuse flaps and rudder. And scare anyone into dogfights.
The Ki-84 has excellent performance but its guns are the bane of my existence. I’ll gladly take a hit on performance for guns that are reasonably effective.
@@Mark49007 Not to mention that the J7W is actually fast, has a VERY good energy retention and high altitude performance AND high speed handling. Almost complete the opposite of the N1K2.
Jengar said the opposite about the shinden (2 years ago) but god damn, when you are on 20 min fuel you can't use wep to climb at 25m/s and j2m3 is pain, since it adores overheating too and you can't make use of your climbrate.
Yup. Especially with tracers. I was stalling behind an I-185 so i just went spray or die and sent about 600 rounds his way. The moment the bullets touched him he exploded.
Hey DEFYN can you make a vid about the Premium J2m4 I think it's called. The one with 20mm. I bought a while ago and this plane is damaging my Sanity. I thing the gun are hortible and the plane is too. Can't help my self with it. Only good thing is the reward. Doesn't matter how bad you do you are getting rich in it.
That's a J2M with a turbo, but the turbo isn't working in it, so it's a J2M3 (maybe M5) with worse performance, because Gaijin. My squadron mates begging for Gaijin to finally fix that thing but they didn't listen. So, sorry man, but you're fucked. The plane isn't THAT bad, it can be good, but you definitely have to know what are you doing with it.
They seriously nerfed them ages ago... The A7M2, the N1K2-J, and even the Ki-84 used to be able to at least fight off things like the P-51H (note that I only said fight off, not beat). Because Gaijin only considers player statistics in balans, and with Japanese mains are usually highly capable, they ended up getting overtiered and nerfed to the point where they are hilariously unrealistic. Case in point, real life A7M2 tests show it to be more capable than the N1K2-J and Ki-84, but in game after 1.87, it is now the slowest of the three and even outright lied about changing its flight model.
@@ryanjonathanmartin3933 Only in a straight line, yeah. But even then, at military power, it is very comparable to the N1K2-J (the Ki-84 still outruns them significantly, being close to 700 km/h at WEP, which cannot be reached by either the Shidens or the Reppuus), though data seems to say the N1K2-J can outrun it further with WEP. I was referring to the time to climb, in which the A7M2 can keep up with some J2Ms. The A7M2 can reach 6km in 6:07 and 10km in 15:20, while the J2M3 can reach 6km in 5:50 and the J2M5 can reach 6km in 6:20. For reference, the N1K2-J can reach 6km in 6:20. Unfortunately, I can't find the time to 10km for the other fighters, and I could only find the T-2 Report for the Ki-84, in which it was tested to 20k ft in 5:48 under "normal" conditions and 7:18 under "overload" conditions. And let's not forget, the Japanese military tested these aircraft using *military power settings (100% throttle)*, not War Emergency Power settings, at a full tank of gas...
@@OmegaEGGY To be honest, their FMs are quite good. I mean they are pretty realistic. And the reason the Ki-84 is so much better, is because Gaijin gave it 100 octane fuel and used the american's test for making the plane. In the japanese hands the Ki-84 had a top speed around 660 km/h, which is barely faster than the N1K2, and obviously it did everything worse by the japanese than by the americans with high octan fuel.
I came here to see how stuff goes and after getting the performance mods off this thing i gotta say it's even worse than the sea fury because it is literally a japanese prop with all the japanese props' bad traits with none of the good ones. Thing is simply helpless and doesn't turn at all lmao.
Defyn, im a little late to comment on the video but could you please make a video on the I.A.R 81? i've played almost all 2.7 planes and this thing is just disgusting, all 2.7s i played out climbs it, it has a ridiculous cooling problem(a weapon to surpass the F8F-1B), the cooling problem is so broken that you MUST use MEC to not overheat before you reach the end of the runway, you need to spend so much time fiddling with MEC and side climbing with the I.A.R-81 that by the time you reach 4km the battle is over, i bought the plane november last year and couldn't even reach 50 matches with it due to the bad performance, with it you can't climb, you overheat, it turns well with flaps but lacks the power to maintain a dogfight. But hey 2x MG151 with 175RPG at 2.7.
Any opinions on the J2M3 or the Ki-83? I'm still trying to find my way around JP rank 4 planes in general and haven't gotten around to flying either of those 2 too much yet.
oh my.. Ki-83..love that plane..it's awesome ...have 270 kills and 90 deaths with it. I usually climb above 5-6k meters and then Boom n' Zoom climbing fighters
The J2M3 is a J2M2 with more better guns. You will perform decent in it, as long as someone doesn't run away. That was my experience atleast, after a few matches.
well what do you think about the J6K1 then, ive used that plane to grind most of my japan. I sold my F11 and brought this and its been a lot of fun for me
i just got it and its completely without any chance of doing anything remotely useful for the team. Im like a really fat football player with great tackling ability but no speed
So it's a slightly faster N1K1-Ja? Which is already is only marginally better* than an F6F-5 Hellcat. The only reason why Shiden Kais can perform well is becaus enemy players don't know what they are fighting and because they actually get decent guns, compared to the Ki-84ko. *Overall not only based on dogfight capability, but also how easy it is to boom 'n zoom and other things like that.
The Ki-84ko is in my opinion worse than the first N1K1-Ja at 5.3, because the N1Ks guns actually work, while those of the Ki-84 seem to not do anything. Even the Ki-61 II at 4.7 has better armament thsn the Ki-84 and that's only because it actually has enough ammo to kill more than one guy.
@@martijn9568 agreed but recently I’ve actually gone through spaded most of the mid to high tier Japanese planes, especially the Georgia’s and hayates, and I haven’t had any problems with either of the different guns. It’s really about using your energy first and not committing and not putting yourself in a position where you have to spray. With all the planes I spades I was consistently getting 3 to 6 kill games easily.
this thing looks about as fun as a funeral
...a FUNeral
nah this aircraft is dogshit lmao
Funerals aren’t very fun, especially in covid
@@skwidthecrayfsh34 your the person who said you suck macbay and then got shot
@@HarambeeOffical what?
You can't spell funeral without "fun"
I remember back in 2013-2014 Shiden Kai was one of the most feared piston planes in the game.
Glad to see you taking out some Japanese props! They need some love tbh. Looking forward to the ki-84 video!
Man I haven't played war thunder in so long, but I remember the (good) times when this thing had a UFO flight model and was perfect for humbling beercan players. Sad to see it in this state.
i remember as well , 2015 , good times
Your point about high tier IJN/IJA planes seems perfectly fitting for my experience playing WT as a newbie. Everyone runs away from you, or they are all low on the deck and you are forced to dive towards them with your compression and your low energy retention while diving, or you choose to not climb and get boom and zoomed by Bf-109s or Lightnings. Or a bomber wins a head-on against you if you try to attack those.
@RYAN JONATHAN MARTIN Having learned a few more things about the Ki-43, you WANT people to try and dive on you, because you can evade them so easily. But I may be wrong, hope DEFYN makes a video on it some day.
Thank you for video Defyn. I´am glad someone like you draws attention to the problems with this fighter. This plane should get 5.0, because it barely can counter something like P-51 D30 due to it´s low performance. Unfortunately Gaijin will not listen any voices that say something Japanese with four cannons need lower BR. It´s useless to write on forum there is something wrong in WT because they will ban you for this with justification you insulting employees of Gaijin.
Give it at least 4.7 i guess? Like the spit mk9
People running away from you is something usual when you play Japanese (starting Tier 3). Enough patience and engine management bring usually 2-3 kills per game. If you have it, would like to see your view on the J7W1!
Its a shit plane with bad FM. Climbs, turns and retains energy worse than anything of its BR. Its a bomber clubber or discount P47 at best.
yea its only good for headons
@@PerciusLive Whaaaaat energy retention is GREAT
DEFYN: Plane is a struggle bus.
Also DEFYN: 5 kill match in said struggle bus.
Meanwhile most of us are happy if we get two kills in before we die.
N1K is surprisingly easy to get high kill matches, that's due to japanese teams. You won't carry matches in this thing but as a support it's really efficient
@@southweststrangla9591 So you gonna repeat what DEFYN said, is that it? Let me tell you a secret. What we, the normal players, and what DEFYN experience is totally different. He is in the top 300 players in Air Realistic for a reason. What he calls struggle, we call hell. So no matter the circumstances, 99% of the normal player base will not get a high kill game let alone an ace in this.
@@Reaf121286 I haven't fully watched video yet only like first minute, but if that's so then yes he's not wrong. If you don't believe him and me, just try it yourself it's not that hard if you are semi competent pilot, all it takes is just waiting and helping teammates. Also being very good at game =/= being godlike player, some planes he might struggle with just because of his playstyle. Also also most he does is down to bit of luck, patience and smart play, it's not like he's pulling some hard manouvers that would require monkey agility to pull off nor does he relay only on his aim, most cases aim just helps him get more kills due to killing faster, he doesn't really need plan b in case he misses. Rest is just bit of knowledge that you also can easilly get it just takes some time
I also can make 5 kills and more in a bad plane.
By stealing stalled or burning planes cause I'm dogshit lmao
@@Reaf121286 get better then becouse i have almost a 15:1 k/D on nk's
Back in 2012-14 the N1K2s were pretty badass. For the longest time, the N1K2-Ja was my plane with the most kills for a very long time. Then bit by bit it got worse, there was a time when you'd get thrown in with early jets every game and now it just sits there gathering dust in my hangar. Kinda sad.
This aircraft was more competitive when it came out....... in 2013ish. I spaded it back then and didn't touch it until the other day. Totally outclassed today.
Same with the la9 and f8f
All just sad shells of what they once were
Okay, but the performance what the N1K2 had back then was absolutely irrealistic. The FM what it has now is good, I mean realistic. It's normal that it can't deal with Griffons anymore. The problem is it's BR.
Recently discovered I had the Pacific campaign Zero (back from 2013). Only wanted to use the free 30 repairs but in unlocking a lot of Japanese planes I kinda fell in love with them. Was debating to put a crew in the N1K but from the stats I didn’t see the point really. Seems I was right watching your video. Keep up the great work man :)
The Shiden's armament is probably what is keeping it at it's current BR, I would only hope that the repair cost can come down to match the performance. Inferior planes can still be great fun without the pressure from high repair cost.
Despite its obvious disadvantages and the fact that its grossly over tiered, I love my N1K2 Ja Shiden Kai, beautiful plane that's well armed. Nothing better than winning with the underdog
Also you said it perfectly, people just run away from you at high tiers and you end up just chasing people the entire match, generally ending in them AF camping.
Remember like in 2014 when the n1k was ridiculously overpowered? Good days
The only reason why this thing is still sitting at 6.0 is because of its x4 cannons and 900 rounds. Otherwise every single prop shits on it.
Back when the game was first out and the N1k was one of the top dog props, it was seriously powerful and that is why it has remained in that battle rating till now, of course it does not perform at 6.3 with the other aircraft like the spitfire mk22 or the P51 H . The only capable way of playing this aircraft is with defensive flying and altitude advantage... which is a pain in the ass..
Half of what makes Japanese planes formidable is the psychological effect even though later Japanese planes are practically food.
Finally my nickname being remembered
No, this plane is the Shiden-Kai, or violet lightning improved . Your nickname would be representative of the J7W with a jet engine in the rear (Shinden-Kai, or “magnificent lightning improved”). Close, but different.
@@doch.8039 The propeller version is also Shinden.
@@Stolas9 yes, hence why i said shinden-kai for the theorized jet version of the shinden
@Guilherme Leite yes, that's what I said
@@doch.8039 I know, when i was creating this nickname, I put the N for no reason, but I was trying to associate with the N1k2 lol
Such a shame, I used to play Combat Flight Sim 2 Pacific when I was a lot younger and fell in love with it there. Was looking forward to it.
Edit: post viewing, I think I will still like it. Looks like it still has the Japanese nimbly bimbly playstyle but with much tougher enemies.
I genuinely enjoy the N1K2s and do quite well in them (positive K/D is not an issue at all) but overall I agree that they are overtiered. The thing that keeps me from flying them more is not so much their BR but more so their ridiculous repair cost.
Yeah I totally agree brother mid high tier in Japan is an extreme struggle bus keep up the awesome work brother
The most I remember of this plane is murdering F8Fs and facing P-80s (at the time) and F-84s. Also that time the B-57s could face this thing and we had to intercept them before they destroyed carriers. Also panicking against Griffin Spits.
Remember the days when the Shiden Kai was a legitimate threat? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
La9, bearcat and the n1k all got fucked by FM changes
Kinda sad really
@@DEFYN Even moreso when you find that whatever changes they made to the FMs, they usually don't match the historical data...
idk why gaijin keep this plane at 6.0 they prolly forget it exists
Because for the most part, this plane still dominates in RB at that BR range. I know this is hard to believe, but it used to be that 99% of the time, your opponents would simply turnfight you in their superior planes. Nowadays, it's about 75% so there is a chance that you'll run into someone who actually will extend and use their speed/energy retention to make it so that you can't touch them.
@@surpriseattack basically this; the plane's being held up by virtue of being an idiot tax rather than upon any merits the airframe has to offer.
@@surpriseattack lol yeah, some players just make me wonder why they decide to turn fight me when that's the only thing my plane is better at
@@BABiFun it boils down to three co-dependent factors: lack of experience/knowledge, desperation for RP (the grind), and bad teams. Allied teams tend to be bomber heavy which puts them at an automatic numerical disadvantage. Those bomber pilots tend to graduate into fighters they desperately want with little to no operational knowledge. Combined with the fact that they are desperate to grind up from the stock state of the plane, they make bad tactical decisions just to get a kill, even if that means sacrificing their plane. Those factors together make many allied teams bad generally, though they have gotten significantly better since they used to be 3-4 years ago.
I Strongly share Defyn's hatred for the AF AAA. Half the time I take damage is when I turn to fly away from the base without diving in for attack.
When people run to base in a 2v1 with equal altitude then they deserve to be shit talked and embarrassed when their planes hit the ground bc they were too shit at the game to learn how to play properly.
It's such a douchebag move honestly. No fun to play with ppl like them.
I honestly don’t care about getting strafed gaijin really needs to nerf the AAA, had a dude from 5K alt dive and run to his AF because I was 1K above him, decided to camp the airfield for the entire game until the tickets runs out
But I guess they were just playing differently
I personally run the tracer belts at 500m convergence, I personally really enjoy it but it has nice quirks that some would definitely dislike. I play it pretty passively and do much better than being aggressive with it.
dont use tracer belts on type99, the tracer HE shells have half the HE filler as the other HE shells
I feel that way with every japanese plane. Some are better, like the ki43, but it sucks to be slow in this game.
J7W video coming soon???
It's fortunate that it doesn't have to fight against superprops much
So what battle Rating should the n1k2 j, ja, be at. My guess would be 5.0, 5.3, 5.7
Overtiered is right. However N1K1-Ja is just about right at 5.3, one of my favorite japanese planes in fact. Same performance as the K2, but half the cannon ammo and some 7.7s. I find it performs really well at altitude against P51s and lower tier Spits, who are generally extremely overconfident with their space climbing and aren't ready for anyone to turn into them. The J7W1 is still my favorite higher tier Japanese prop though - eats fighters for lunch at high altitude.
Not same performance, the K2 is faster on every altitude with almost 40 km/h which is a huuuuge difference.
man, n1k's used to be top choice next to the Bearcats back in like 2015 squadron battles. what a sad state theyre in today.
7:23 literally seething in all chat lmao
I don't understand why ppl call this vehicle trash, i love it, its not a Ki 84, but it definitely turns better than most other planes ot goea up against, especially if you uae flaps correctly. The cannons aren't great either, but they get the job done.
im excited for the j2m video
Honestly, I dont know why I love this thing, I have over 1000 battles with it and even tho I knew all of this what you said, I still love it. When I face it, I know its an easy kill, cant do shit to my beloved american planes, but when I use it, I just love it. I also have over 1000 battles with the Ki-84 and I would like that thing, but in 6.3 its worse than the N1K2 in 6.0 IMO, and the 5.7 one is a suffer because of the guns. And if you think the N1K2 compresses badly at higher speed, then oh boi, you gonna cry when you fly out the J2M5. :D That is...oh boi....much worse. :D
Another case of "If Big Guns + big bombs then a whole tier up" thing.
I was looking forward to it soo much... Good lookig, 4x20, nice turn... Turned out that it was painful.
Nice turn.... good joke there because it gets slapped by anything that also has a semi competent turn time (~18 - 20 sec on stat card) due to its bad engine making this thing bleed all speed in 2 - 3 loops.
Its a dogfighter that can't dogfight with its bad FM rn and horrible BR placement due to the borked FMs of yester-year
Stealth is like katana on this thing.... But in my experience in Ja its a good plane but the br is just bad as well as high repair
I find Zeroes to be very easy to fight. I'd much rather fight a Zero than a Ki-84
It makes sense, since the Zeros are trash and can't touch anything if the allied player knows how to use his plane, while the Ki-84 actually can be a threat.
Great vid as always. Would love to see a video on the Ki-100 or Ki 61 Hei with the mg 151's.
This new A6M5 zero that they will add in the next update will have 18k repair cost stock... WTF a heavier zero at 4.7 with 18k BASE REPAIR COST...
You forgot to talk about the excessive overheating lol it’s terrible 😣 great video!
I've generally had a better time in this than the Ki-84, but I can't really put my finger on why. The ki-84 just doesn't work for me like n1k does. Maybe it's the Ho-5s, or the sort of weird way the ki-84 handles. Or the Ja model somehow flies better than the J (doubtful). Then again I've always been a bit weird in air RB and my choices can sometimes be... interesting.
I have over 1000 battles with the Ki-84 and over 1000 battles with the N1K2 and I can tell you that I also enjoy more the N1K2, simply because it has firepower. Although the Ki-84 is truly a better plane, it does truly everything better, but it doesn't matter if it's cannons doesn't do shit and also has less ammo with higher rate of fire. If the Hei one would be 6.0, then I would play that often, but being 6.3 is just pathetically ridiculous. Gaijin has no clue how they should BR the planes.
An N1K2-J killed me the other day while I was in a P-51H-5 :P
Only because I'm bad and I have zero situational awareness
Damn rip lol, you out perform him in literally every way.
@@jbeverley67 Muh turn rate.
still waiting for the Ki-84
I spaded both variants while they were 6.3, facing -F84s constantly.
That was almost bomber level painful grinding.
To properly abuse this thing, you need to abuse flaps and rudder. And scare anyone into dogfights.
The Ki-84 has excellent performance but its guns are the bane of my existence. I’ll gladly take a hit on performance for guns that are reasonably effective.
Noooo waaay, finally! I thought you forget it! :D
Damn, I remember when this thing was completely broken back in the day when it had an airspawn
Idk if I'm playing it wrong but doing head-ons, and then turning back for them works well for me
5.0 6.0 japan is a nightmares, those planes are so overtired. The a7m1 was a 3.3 br at start and is now a 5.0
At 3.3 it was undertiered as fuck. The A7M2 is still hecking awesome at 5.3. the A7M1 should be 4.7 tho.
The A7Ms are absolutely amazing even at the BR they are at now. They were severely undertiered then, but now they're fairly balanced.
@@Meowjiii not really that thing has a shit top speed and guns suffers from exactly what this plane suffers from
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO N1K2 GAMERS RISE UUUUPPPPPPPP
Do the J7W next
J7W have same problem as N1K2.
@@Mark49007 Absolutely not. The J7W is the only japanese plane that belongs to 6.0.
@@Mark49007 Not to mention that the J7W is actually fast, has a VERY good energy retention and high altitude performance AND high speed handling. Almost complete the opposite of the N1K2.
@@Stolas9 It's quite similar to the Ta-152H in my opinion, but the Ta-152H gets an airspawn, of course))
@@Stolas9 When me and my clan-mates played this fighter in 2015 and 2016 it was much much better. I prefered the old FM.
back then I used this thing to destroy bearcats . this thing was just op as hell
I felt your pain flying this pos
Defyn, do a vid on the G.55 Serie 1. Its simply a game carrier
Let's not forget it like most Japanese planes at this BR overheats extremely fast
Jengar said the opposite about the shinden (2 years ago) but god damn, when you are on 20 min fuel you can't use wep to climb at 25m/s and j2m3 is pain, since it adores overheating too and you can't make use of your climbrate.
@@kingghidorah8106 You can WEP 100% of the time if you use manual engine controls
@@Intrspace I use MEC and yes it still overheats.
@@kingghidorah8106 No it doesn't. If I remember right, put oil radiator at 30% and radiator at 20%
Your voice in this vid sounded more annoyed /angry than in the corona rant video
I would like to set a video between the Ki 84 and N1K1 comparison from real life.
I'm pretty sure .50cals got buffed aswell. Especially with apit belts, you chop straight through wings and tails now
Yup. Especially with tracers. I was stalling behind an I-185 so i just went spray or die and sent about 600 rounds his way. The moment the bullets touched him he exploded.
This plane used to be so OP back in 2013 ish man
Still waiting on that ki 84 video
The plane is like the bf 109. Energy fighting
xDDD No. Not really.
the tempest 1v1 was pretty insane wut
its basically a fat Ki 84 and is just heavy and slow
for Japanese planes
Get better soon!
TIL I'm an absolute idiot for constantly dying to this thing
Love your gameplay
Hopefully gaijin fixes it.
Good flying man 😊
used to be a beast
Can you do a guide for the Ki87 and Ki94?
the n1k2j isn’t over tier, it is simply over powered, I do play it and it is simply total domination to everything that it meet
@DEFYN can you make a video about the french V.G? , also nice videos !!!! thanks for the quality content!!!
The N1K2-Ja Shiden Kai is a good plane (in my opinion), but i never flew the N1K2-J Shiden Kai
They're absolutely the same.
Hey DEFYN can you make a vid about the Premium J2m4 I think it's called. The one with 20mm. I bought a while ago and this plane is damaging my Sanity. I thing the gun are hortible and the plane is too. Can't help my self with it.
Only good thing is the reward. Doesn't matter how bad you do you are getting rich in it.
That's a J2M with a turbo, but the turbo isn't working in it, so it's a J2M3 (maybe M5) with worse performance, because Gaijin. My squadron mates begging for Gaijin to finally fix that thing but they didn't listen. So, sorry man, but you're fucked. The plane isn't THAT bad, it can be good, but you definitely have to know what are you doing with it.
J2m2>j2m3>>>j2m5>>j2m4
The M4 is nothing but sad right now it's not just you
7:30 Extra salt in the chat 😂
Gaijin really hates Japanese planes, especially the cannons, I feel that in the A6M5, the 13mm are sometimes better than the 20mm
They seriously nerfed them ages ago... The A7M2, the N1K2-J, and even the Ki-84 used to be able to at least fight off things like the P-51H (note that I only said fight off, not beat). Because Gaijin only considers player statistics in balans, and with Japanese mains are usually highly capable, they ended up getting overtiered and nerfed to the point where they are hilariously unrealistic.
Case in point, real life A7M2 tests show it to be more capable than the N1K2-J and Ki-84, but in game after 1.87, it is now the slowest of the three and even outright lied about changing its flight model.
@@OmegaEGGY actually the A7M was the slowest of the three irl but other than that I agree with you. They trust player stats far too much.
@@ryanjonathanmartin3933 Only in a straight line, yeah. But even then, at military power, it is very comparable to the N1K2-J (the Ki-84 still outruns them significantly, being close to 700 km/h at WEP, which cannot be reached by either the Shidens or the Reppuus), though data seems to say the N1K2-J can outrun it further with WEP.
I was referring to the time to climb, in which the A7M2 can keep up with some J2Ms. The A7M2 can reach 6km in 6:07 and 10km in 15:20, while the J2M3 can reach 6km in 5:50 and the J2M5 can reach 6km in 6:20. For reference, the N1K2-J can reach 6km in 6:20. Unfortunately, I can't find the time to 10km for the other fighters, and I could only find the T-2 Report for the Ki-84, in which it was tested to 20k ft in 5:48 under "normal" conditions and 7:18 under "overload" conditions.
And let's not forget, the Japanese military tested these aircraft using *military power settings (100% throttle)*, not War Emergency Power settings, at a full tank of gas...
@@OmegaEGGY oooo. Yea, you're right, the A7M had a great climb rate.
@@OmegaEGGY To be honest, their FMs are quite good. I mean they are pretty realistic. And the reason the Ki-84 is so much better, is because Gaijin gave it 100 octane fuel and used the american's test for making the plane. In the japanese hands the Ki-84 had a top speed around 660 km/h, which is barely faster than the N1K2, and obviously it did everything worse by the japanese than by the americans with high octan fuel.
Haven’t seen any good g91 r4 videos would be cool if you made one
AA hugging is legit the most annoying thing about air RB. Partially what made me quit in 2016
and then because defyn flied it, Gaijin's statistics says the N1K is good all of a sudden and it gets raised to 6.3, because muh statistics
big /s
I came here to see how stuff goes and after getting the performance mods off this thing i gotta say it's even worse than the sea fury because it is literally a japanese prop with all the japanese props' bad traits with none of the good ones. Thing is simply helpless and doesn't turn at all lmao.
Can you make a video on Ki-84 Ko or Otsu? They said the plane is all round good to great performance
Defyn, im a little late to comment on the video but could you please make a video on the I.A.R 81? i've played almost all 2.7 planes and this thing is just disgusting, all 2.7s i played out climbs it, it has a ridiculous cooling problem(a weapon to surpass the F8F-1B), the cooling problem is so broken that you MUST use MEC to not overheat before you reach the end of the runway, you need to spend so much time fiddling with MEC and side climbing with the I.A.R-81 that by the time you reach 4km the battle is over, i bought the plane november last year and couldn't even reach 50 matches with it due to the bad performance, with it you can't climb, you overheat, it turns well with flaps but lacks the power to maintain a dogfight. But hey 2x MG151 with 175RPG at 2.7.
Do you think the sea plane version is better than this version? If you rip off the pontoon it flies pretty good for it's Br
This game would be so much better if they just balanced it better.
Any opinions on the J2M3 or the Ki-83? I'm still trying to find my way around JP rank 4 planes in general and haven't gotten around to flying either of those 2 too much yet.
oh my.. Ki-83..love that plane..it's awesome ...have 270 kills and 90 deaths with it. I usually climb above 5-6k meters and then Boom n' Zoom climbing fighters
The J2M3 is a J2M2 with more better guns. You will perform decent in it, as long as someone doesn't run away. That was my experience atleast, after a few matches.
N1K2 : **sad overtiered noises**
French planes : « First time ? »
well this plane is nothing new you were the slow plane in the zeros
i saw 4x250 but flying this...
well what do you think about the J6K1 then, ive used that plane to grind most of my japan. I sold my F11 and brought this and its been a lot of fun for me
Can't tell you, haven't flown it since the FM got changed
i just got it and its completely without any chance of doing anything remotely useful for the team.
Im like a really fat football player with great tackling ability but no speed
still waiting the ki84
So it's a slightly faster N1K1-Ja? Which is already is only marginally better* than an F6F-5 Hellcat.
The only reason why Shiden Kais can perform well is becaus enemy players don't know what they are fighting and because they actually get decent guns, compared to the Ki-84ko.
*Overall not only based on dogfight capability, but also how easy it is to boom 'n zoom and other things like that.
The fastest hand in the ... South
I wish I had half as much brains when it comes to dog fighting. Gg wp
The 5.3 georgia is alright, but also the ko hayate is just a lot better
The Ki-84ko is in my opinion worse than the first N1K1-Ja at 5.3, because the N1Ks guns actually work, while those of the Ki-84 seem to not do anything.
Even the Ki-61 II at 4.7 has better armament thsn the Ki-84 and that's only because it actually has enough ammo to kill more than one guy.
@@martijn9568 agreed but recently I’ve actually gone through spaded most of the mid to high tier Japanese planes, especially the Georgia’s and hayates, and I haven’t had any problems with either of the different guns. It’s really about using your energy first and not committing and not putting yourself in a position where you have to spray. With all the planes I spades I was consistently getting 3 to 6 kill games easily.
still not gona dogfight it though