Divide & Conquer (V4): Faction Overview - Bree-land
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- 32:00 - Battle Overview
Divide and Conquer is a mod for Medieval 2 Total War that is based upon Third Age: Total War. I am the current team leader of the modding team behind Divide and Conquer.
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"I have no Idea where those hobbits found 8,850 fist sized stones, or even how they carried all of them, but damn was I happy to see orcs getting brained." - Breelander Militiaman on the battle of the crossing.
(while the crossing itself was completly blocked of by mound of stones)
Any Kikoskia fan knows the secret art of stone carrying :p
@@astilla9 "Exactly! That's why our army is so strong in defence! Orcs always come back for more - but first they need to remove all that stones from their way. And when they start working, we just fill them with bolts and arrows. Last time we pierced their chief with 35 arrows - he looked great!" - Breelander Journeyman drinking beer after second battle on that crossing.
instaBlaster...
Having Butterbur waltz into Mordor to destroy the one ring is the chaddest thing I ever did in my life.
I just Imagine the look on Gandalf's face as Barlyman hurriedly returns to his Inn while Mordor goes nuclear behind him, muttering things like "one thing drives the other" and "I'm a busy man"
Judging by his new profile picture, council master Barliman has seen some shit
I read this and had to go back to see the picture. Safe to say, I almost lost my breath laughing.
Haha you are right it looks like he has had a very bad trip :)
In Lord of the Rings Barliman was a fat barman who could forget even his name. Just imagine this man dressing in heavy armor; using a heavy crossbow; ruling a huge country; leading an army to batlle; fighting evil men, ghosts and goblins... Everybody would look like him)
Bree is one of the most inspired factions I've seen in all of Medieval 2. Kudos to the DaC team for all the love put into it
No sellswords in the mercenary section? What HERESY is this!?
You get a General with Sellswords as his bodyguard if you pick the merc path.
I just edit the files, I don’t see it as out of character
Basically, the merchant militia are walking tin cans one dumps in front of the enemy to slow them down and eat arrows :p
I want to see a full hobbit stack march on the black gates!!
well then, go, be off and conquer!
@@imnotyourbuddyguy9713 I mean, they could, but the garrison would have to be weak when you attack, and if the nazgul or sauron are there it's over, but there is only one way to find out
@@imnotyourbuddyguy9713 I just want to see him take this stack all the way there avoiding all kinds of dangers and finally they get to the gates with an epic battle about to begin only to be slaughtered epically and decisively. lol
@@RearGardist Ya they could win if there is no nazgul and some weak stuff there. The best unit the hobbits have is that armor piercing stone throwers I think or whatever the ap units are.
It actually happened and even described in Hobbit books:
"One day the valley of Morannon saw that army. The whole army of angry barefoot Hobbits armed with pitchforks and bows. Their captain came forward and shouted: "I, Paladin, son of Adalgrim, Than of Shire, Conqueror of Dunland and Isengard, offer you a chance to surrender!"
No one could answer him as guards fell laughing. Paladin shouted again but still got no reply. Only one Easterling got annoyed of Hobbit and shot an arrow at him. But that only got old Paladin mad. He took the arrow out of his chainmail, threw it away and shouted:
"We stood with Dunedain, you fools! Now you can't pierce our armour, you can't break our lines, you can't scare us. Surrender when you still can!"
Then the Black Gate started to open slowly. The mighty Morannon Guard suported by lots of other Orcs and some Trolls prepared to swallow daring Halflings. Easterlings still waited for their payment which was already delayed two times.
"Have they really bought it?! - Council-Master Barliman couldn't believe his eyes when he watched the whole circus from the height of Durthang. - Okay, boys, time to grand finale!"
After those words black sky of Mordor became even darker when thousand of Breeland crossbowmen released their bolts from the walls of Durthang. At the same time at the plain before mighty Hobbit army a whole Dunedain one appeared out of nowhere. Everyone who had a bow started to shoot at astonished enemy...
...That's how Hobbits knocked on Black Gate and made it open. There were no prisoners except Easterlings who still waited their money".
The recruitment system for Bree with the units coming from different buildings sounds awesome! Hope it stays :)
About the sherrifs though, aren't hobbits supposed to be really good at aiming? Only giving them average accuracy seems like a disservice to their supposed good eye-hand coordination
They are already waaaay too good than they have any right to be. Having higher accuracy would make them ridiculous. AP rocks make them absolutely ridiculous.
They have to throw rocks too far to be accurate. And also they are a bit scared of enemy running at them)
I love the look of the Breeland units. They seem like one of the most human factions in the game.
Hi, i have few suggestions:
1) Merchant Militia shoud have at least 1 defence skill (even snagas and hobbits have at least 1)
2) Bodyguards and Gatekeepers should have higher armour stat, given they have better armour than Merchant Militia
3) Maybe 1 or 2 armour increase for Watchmen units, they need it (and 5 for post BE unit is a joke, even Anduin, Dunland and Enedwaith (wildmen) have more than that, while looking less heavy
You are right but you can always change those stats yourself in the export_descr_unit document using notepad+. Galu made a video about it some time ago. Is quite easy. I hope this was helpfull : )
Everyone always wants units to be stronger. Bree don't need any boosts because they are already an easy faction.
Bree is already very easy. I don’t think any changes are needed.
@ I admit that I like Bree a lot, but this actually came to my mind earlier (when playing as Anduin and later as Enedwaith AGAINST Bree). I mean look at Elder Guildsmen for ex, they have almost bare arms, no helms to speak of, yet somehow their armour rating is better than that of Watchmen (even River Elders And Woodmen Wardens have 7 Armor and they are armoured in same-ish fashion as Watchmen)
. But nerfing wildmen would be heartless, so i thought this could be the solution
But as I said, those are merely suggestions :)
@@astilla9
It's not only about a type of armor, but quality and experience in using it.
That's how dwarves can have chainmail unit with 14 armor.
Tolkien is spinning in his grave, knowing his beloved Hobbits are Teutonic and Hun bastards!!😂😂😂
Can’t wait for V4. The Elves shall inherit Middle Earth!!
Harry Martens nai it shall be the Alcoholics Anonymous, the true heirs of Numenor who shall inherit middle earth!
Marlo York Rodriguez Well, they can try. But, if I’m not mistaken, Elven liquor has quite the punch.
Playing 4.5, I gotta say, I’m loving playing Bree.
They’re just such underdogs, but they have such great potential if commanded properly. As some other folks say, despite the presence of Hobbits (and later Dwarves), they’re just so _human_ somehow.
I will say though, fighting against Dunland is a little rough. They just attack you so quickly that it's hard to get enough momentum to hit them back.
Yeah, actually I'm having more trouble fighting Dunland than Isengard. And don't make me start on the Enedwaith. They attacked me while I was still in war with Dunland.
It's the morale I think. Morale I'm dac is far higher than in base med 2, so the lower morale faction (Bree) feels more normal than the virtually unbreakable dunedain or Gondor.
"Oh okay time to see what Bree has new!"
*looks at map in first five seconds*
Northern Dunedain with five provinces? Yes, please.
It's Turn 2, so after the auto expansion. You don't get 5 provinces as ND
It would be great to see Bilbo with a costume dwraven bodyguard to reflect his quest to Erebor and his resulting friendship with Balin etc.
Great idea. Going to mod it in myself
I feel like merc choice could use something extra. I think dwarves combine better with native bree-land troops (defensive style, crossbowmen) but I would add something more unique from Bree-land intself for keeping their independence and unique culture (money and beer!) but good work nonetheless.
I mean... money and beer sayes bree lander and dwarf in the same terms... XD
Why not give Bree the option of the Dwarven catapult? Buying Dwarven technology to do the fighting sounds like something the cunning Breeland penny-pinchers would consider!
@@MadsBoldingMusic Having dwarven catapult in their roster might make them capable force considering their units variety.
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Dwarven swords and hammers are really meh. Merchant Infantry is almost identical to the hammers and the your common swordguard are just a bit worse than the swords. Yes, the dwarves are better but not by much and they don't fill any vital gaps in your army. Remember you'll be making these guys from 1 region around every 25 turns. The crossbows are the only ones that can make an impact on your army as mercenary Bree really lacks good bowmen but then again they're so few... can they really make a difference?
For the most part the dwarves and elves and steelbowmen given to the faction are just tokens because they replenish so slowly and are only made from one province far away from the front. The steelbowmen are the biggest culprits as they take 50 turns to replenish and are only available once you cleanse the Barrow Downs.
I know I’m not the first to say nor the last but I just want to say how much I love all these thumbnails, these were one of my favourite aspects of 2.2 faction overviews. Just looking at them all together is very pleasing to the eye.
Amazing work as always Galu!!!
I'm glad to see you're still doing these faction overviews!
The anticipation for V4 is killing me, I want to wage war against the armies of middle earth with my mercenary/hobbit army!!!!
I do really like the start of this overview. Next time, after Dale, I hope that the Clans of Enedwaith will be the next to have a overview.
Love your videos Galu, and have a nice weekend!
Can you add unique mercs for Bree. It would be cool if they could higher travailing elves or dwarves parties that they could recruit very rarely or even some Gondor trash until to denote well off merchants who are looking for extra coin. This would make Bree very unique in the sense they rely more on others help to fight and can only win on their own with greater numbers. To make it more balanced you could make the mercs very expensive and only found on the great East west road.
Their mercenary route let them train unit from plethora of faction as mercs, including Sons of the Fallen if i am not mistaken.
The merc path actually adds more units then the "good" path, including dwarven units that are miles better then anything Dunland will throw against you.
@@HrothgarHeavenlight Sadly most merc units are not very good (given you can train them before BE), so some unique and strong merc-like unit would be great
@@astilla9
Good, proper post-barrack units in mercenary lineup :
-Sons of the fallen , imho best unit that can be trained by Bree in any choice.
-Far Rhun Mercenaries.
-Dorwinion Privateers, foot.
-Dorwinion Privateers, cavarly.
-Also kinda middle tier Rhudaur Landsmenn and Harondor Mercenaries.
If i bought a audiobook i would like it to be with ur voice. Srsly sounds so professional.
I thoroughly enjoyed the choice text some really awesome writing.
I really like the Dunedain choice but I kinda wish they'd keep their green, yellow, and brown color scheme while adopting the Arnorian heraldry. Regardless it's seriously dope that Bree troops get new and better armor when siding with the Dunedain
I really like the merc choice, it defently sounds much more intresting and realistic for the hobbits. I mean If i wanted Arnorian like troops and Dunedain i could just play as the dunedain. While the merc choice seems unique to specificaly Breeland
Before v4 the big difference between the Dunedain and Bree was the Beacon of Hope system which made the Dunedain use alot of other human troops while Breeland had a more Arnorian feel to it as all you had your standard watch troops and greenway riders available everywhere. Now, however, there is a lot less of a difference since the Beacon of Hope system was removed/revamped... You're just a weaker gimped Dunedain I suppose.
I would give the Breelanders a billhook unit, because it’d be very thematic and realistic, because bills were cheap, efficient and kind of a Swiss Army knife of polearms.
I'm living in South Korea and your videos are keeping me sane during this whole coronavirus debacle lol
I like choices, mostly cause of replay-ability down the road, so good job on bringing it to Bree.
The Dunedain camp is also available in longbottom not just Bree, just a nice little extra one. The steelbowmen come from the reuilt crypts in Mengalen.
Yes but how do you rebuild the crypts? When I look at the building brower, I see that a town is required to restore the downs. So I did everything I could to push the population up. It's now at 1000 and there is STILL no option to build a wall and make Mengalen into a town.
Seeing Bilbo leading an army or the high elven general speak in a rough english accent never gets boring.
aah sackville is no longer in the mod? probably the amount of sacking affect their existence :)
Barliman fired Lotto because of his huge mill project. So Sackvile-Bagginses had to retire and now they both live peacefully in Michel Delving, the farthest place in Shire from Bilbo and Barliman.
Galu uploads an hour long video, the Lord has blessed us this day
Best Faction imao ty for detailed description of the choice
I can think of another fun type of hobbit unit. A hobbit ranged unit with an improvised tower or walking shield made from a table flipped on its side, or boxes and baskets or a small boat. Giving them much higher shield but negating their stealth. Deployed like stakes in the game. I could see three versions. Picnic defenders in the shire; the table. Market Stalwarts with the boxes and baskets from Bree and Michel Delving. Stoor Marsh wardens recruited in Vale of Anduin if its taken or if its an ally.
Great video Galu! I don't mind them being long to be honest. I love Bree as a faction.. They're just farmers, not militaristic at all. Love the work you guys are putting in this mod!
This moralistic slant to the choice is weird, especially since odds are high that you’ll just ally with the Dunedain again anyways and continue to strike against The Shadow, just with mercenaries instead of your own people.
The late game bree land strategy for me was having my main army always shadowed by a secondary army of nothing but rock throwing short boys and the most tanky of troops up front. Never underestimate armor piercing of 1 missle attack when you have thousands of said attack who are being protected by the meat wall. Your main army can do the distracting, softening and counter archer work.
Nothing is funnier then seeing late game armies killed by jolly fat short people with rocks.
Exceptional. Thank you.
Battle Overview starts around 32:00 not 23:00 as description states :)
Just finished my AA campaign I can't wait for v4
Primaris Astartes me too!
The length is great to be honest!
The Dunedain option just seems objectively better, Elves and Dunedain with armour upgrades for your original units. So it’s either, objectively better or multiculturalism.
Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men all in one army. Awesome.
Oh I love this, never clicked on any of these videos before, but i'll definitely be watching the rest now!
I would recomend to watch overviews for Version 3, so you can compare :D
Me: Omg 1 hour for Bree!
Also me: Why am I complaining?
I know this is late but I really enjoyed this episode, great stuff :D Love to see Arnor!
But omg did I almost scream at you during that battle, you lost so many gate keepers trying to run away from Agandaur when the Gate keepers are effin' armour piercing halberds! And the Black Numenorians were tired and bloodied up!, Plus the gate-keepers inspire nearby troops, you ran them away from your battle line, and did the same with Andy your commanding general! RAAAAAAAAH God damnit Ligizd. Running away both units inspiring your troops to not break and offing Andy instead of sandwiching the decimated, bloodied up Black Numenorians between your two armour-piercing melee units!
Vad gör du mannen! Du hade förmodligen slaktat Agandaur i melee! :D
Rant over, love your videos, am going to keep watching. :)
If you want to see buildings and units after barrack event just change city type in building overview. city to castle and castle to city.
That doesn't work for units that are restricted by a script. Try it in game and you'll see.
Big fan of the new guild system you've come up with.
I feel like roads should still increase culture by a small amount since it represents a more connected province.
Imagine some province at the Gap of Rohan. After fall of Isengard it has borders with Enedwaith (Middlemen), Rohan (Northmen) and Gondor (Dunedain). Which culture of these should be increased by the roads? I can't see why roads should increase only your culture and not the others.
@@Kirrj There would be more traffic being made by people within the borders than outside so the spread of your own culture would happen faster than any incoming cultures.
@@HereticsRight Hmm... I'd say it depends on a region. For Bree itself it's the opposite because Breelanders usually don't travel too much. They just live on a crossroad seeing other people walking the roads. But you may say that Breelanders will travel a lot during their campaing and I should agree with that)
But don't you think that neighbouring provinces should also spread their culture for a small amount?.. It also makes sence because people are travelling and learning. But playing as nations like Dale will be painful with this mechanic because of Dwarves and Elves nearby.
Fully prepared to be wrong, but Im having a guess at Dale for the next 1, seeing as I saw a fair bit of blue in the roster & you've already done Dol Amroth. 2nd guess would be perhaps Ered Luin
Nailed it
Hey Galu, how do you cleanse the Barrow Downs in v4.5?
I want to report a graphical bug but the forum on moddb is locked so I do it here, hope it's ok. I found a Silver Surfer, it's the Dunedain Blademaster with armor upgrade and only for Bree, it's fine with the ND version. In campaign Bree doesn't have access to that level of smithing anyway ( I think? ) but you can see it in custom battles. A minor bug but daaaamn I hoped that they would get the same gothic-styled armor the upgraded bodyguard/gatekeeper unit have, I love it ! Great vids and mod btw, can't way to see what will be in the future !
Inviting every mercenary in the world to your country seems like a bad idea, that's what Machiavel thought, hiring mercenary is inviting your future enemy, you should get an event of a rogue mercenary army appearing next to Bree
If you do the retraining for the experience, it’ll work as long as the recruitment queue isn’t above capacity. As in you only use the recruitment slots available
You can check on a general’s bodyguard stats in a city but only if they’re unit shows up in the retraining menu, otherwise no they have to be outside. But if they are in the retraining list then right clicking them will bring up the unit not the general character sheet
I can't seem to recruit Sons of the Fallen after choosing the mercenary route. Have they been removed in version 4.5?
So i've started playing Bree, and these Gate Keepers are crazy strong. They're using Pike animations arnt they? So they actually have an 18 attack and its armor peircing. Idk if pikes normally are AP, but i've noticed them absolutely destroy units more expensive than them multiple times by now. They can punch well above their weight class like crazy, and the fact that they use Pike animations means they actually experience a slightly higher Defense stat? Because of the pike animations ability to stun lock?
I´m actually so hyped for Version 4^^
There is this TH-camr named clamavi de profundis he makes lot of song for middle earth and it would be a great soundtrack addition for the game. I don't know if it is possible to add them to the game because of copyrights but I will let that to you to see. Also you can check francisco nogueiras.
38:07 ‘They move slightly slower because they’re hobbits, they’ve got short legs’ 😂😂
Does mercenary Bree not get Bandits or Sellswords?
Bandits are available as a 'normal' merc pretty much all through Eriador. If you pick the merc path you will get a General with Sellswords as his bodyguard named Reginard.
@@feelingpine9123 Cool! Thanks for the quick answer
Galu, just watched this again after starting my bree campaign and I noticed the beginning was in February of 2020. A whole pandemic has happened since you posted this video, and I thought it would be cheeky to point that out. Maybe we could get a bree campaign to replace Khand? I would LOVE that.
Do we let the Free Peoples stand alone?
No... not alone.
I have a question/potential bug issue, in my campaigns as human and elf nations, the third tier of farms gives my settlements the population growth bonuses from both the third and fourth tiers of farms.
We need a campaign with this faction plz
I know I'm late to the party and all, but those bodyguards really carried my fat merchant ass
An easy way to fix the difficulty would be to give Angmar some of the ND provinces so they border you in the auto-expansion if you start as bree
By far the #1 cozy faction
Actually if you choose the mercenary route you get the final tier of towns. so you can upgrade to large cities and get the mercs.
My guess is that you are fighting the Kingdom of Gondor. Firstly because the army has a darkish or dark blue theme, which is shared by Gondor and Dol Amroth. Second, the army composition is made up of medium sized battalions (roughly 120-150 man (or soldier) per unit)). Lastly, I am very certain I saw some of the most splendid units in the game, the famed Knights of The Silver Swan, which can be recruited by Gondor if they construct a certain building near the borders of the lands of Dor-En-Ernil. Fingers crossed!
ahhhh. Dale it was, of course :)
I like that you talk too much. This is an excellent overview.
Ok, was crushed. I'm trying again, but more defensive this time
Where did the upgraded road building (Green way) go
What is the name of the music at 49:13 and at 56:31 ?
If ND can rebuild Tharbad , what is going to happen to Annuminas ?
I think Galu said it would be already rebuild from the start of the campaign
@@andreumuntaner5600 If that is true the nice
The ND will be able to rebuild Annuminas, Fornost and Tharbad.
Gondor, Dol Amroth and the AA will be able to rebuild the two Osgiliath and Tharbad.
The AA will also get the chance to rebuild Annuminas, Fornost and Tharbad in a separate submod, for those who prefer playing in the North.
@@arkay9334 Will the files be able to be edited like for V3 , cause i was able to enable Imladris to rebuild all Dunedain cities ?
@@SVTDI Yes, the only difference is that we use a new tier for the Mason Lodge unique to those four factions mentioned above. This allows to choose which faction can rebuild a settlement in a certain region.
It's actually very straightforward. You will need to edit the faction requirements in the edb so that the High Elves have access to the same tiers as the ND.
If you still have doubts, you can send me a pm on Discord once V4 is released. :)
All units look like a pool table.
Galu I think you should TH-cam Livestream some of your campaign episodes, It’d be fun to watch you fight in real time and answer some random LOTR questions!!!
😍😍😍
Imagine if we could get these script readings in Galus voice as the script pops up in game. Ashamed as I am to say, I have sometimes skipped readings such as this when they pop up (accidentally and intentionally)
I still miss my watchguard units 😢
Lumburmun!
Why did Farmhand Pikemen get buffed?
Because wargs and mounted Dunlendings now need to watch out who they charge at)
Does experience on archers actually matter that much?
Iirc it dosent affect missile damage
It reportedly improves accuracy, though I've been unable to confirm this.
Doesn't it increase defense skill as well
Sadly no. It only did that in Rome 1. It does increase morale though.
You said you can recruit every merc unit but what about sell swords or just the simple bandits ? Im sure there are others as well
Way late comment but if you are still playing open descr_unit and descr_building place normans as a faction is the unit. Sell swords are the first unit in the file and remove the general unit tag. Then in building file ctrl + F privateer to find the appropriate building and copy and paste a recruitment line then remove the name and replace it with sellswords. Tweak as you will
Join the elves!
Dale
The Bree empire is run by a bartender? ALL HAIL BREE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Galu love the mod but I suggest some changes. Boats, more ports when choose merchant option, strongholds when choose dunedain. Plus may be bug but I can only recruit dunedain in bree and longbottom.
Lul me before starting the vid pls pls pls give us samwise as a general with frying pan as weapon haha
I think it's Dale but not completely sure
I don’t have a clue but i though dol amroth but you’ve already done it but the only blue i can think of is dale or ered luin
Am I having a stroke or was the Brandobas archers not mentioned in the second half?
Other than just the look of them that is.
47:30 He talks about them here
@@crepley8335 Ah cheers, must've been off when watching.
I played an Anduin game, and i think i killed like 3 nazgul with the hobbit shirrifs. They regularly got 300+ kills. they look like they will be shit but they’re insane especially in defensive scenarios.
Are journeymen a pavise crossbow style unit I.e the shield can stop arrows when reloading?
Nope , is only estetic
I don't think the engine can afford the trick you've described. Shield defence just adds to other types of defence and permanently reduces damage.
Hurah!
Its dale? i know there is a rework for the blue dwarves so by bet is dale
Yea it is would be funny if i get that wrong
Could you rename the bree land militia to something farmer inspired for example farmer militia and make it so they are recruitable from the land clearance/ farm buildings and instead of spears they could have pitch forks or other pole farm tools as they should remain spear men
Did they remove the farmstead pikemen(?) unit? I think that fits your description if its still in the game
@@joevenespineli6389 they are still in the game however I feel it would just make sense and fit with brees theme if they were recruited from an economic building in this case the farms and they would need a name change to reflect this
@@jimmyjoyce3554 Ahh yeah I suppose so
is it possiblle, and a good idea, to make the shirrifs have a sling to have linke 10 or 20 meters range more and ad 1 or 2 missile damage so that there's at leats one hobbit unit that is verging on being good?
They are already great for Bree roster. Just us them as supporting units. Bandobras archers are the best that you have at the start and still useful there. Hobbits don't know slings (that's good - it's totally inaccurate!) but you can make use of their stones. Just hold the defence on a hill side. When enemy tries to break your lines (good luck with that!), Shirrifs will be able to throw all their rocks with no problem. And every stone that finds target will do damage and lower enemy's morale!
Sees dislikes on a galu video Dio: Muda baka you dare approach this vid with hate
Can't recruit swordguard or axeguard. What's the requirements for them? Is it barracks event or cultural?
Help, does anyone know the name of the music that starts at 41:30?