Divide & Conquer (V4): Faction Overview - High Elves
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Addendum:
As hoped, the twins DO have Dúnedain Bodyguard and not Dúnedain Scouts. (The files are doing as they are told for once!). The Dúnedain Bodyguard are showcased in the last 5 minutes of the video.
yes u do get dunedain bodyguards at their unit ;)
even better
I used Elrohir to destroy the Ring. It was all good fun
Are u going to do Lorien update video?
💩💩Oi,
"It is very very unlikely that you'll lose Mithlond, unless the Ardunaim invasion at turn 80 catches you offguard, forgot to mention that, well I guess we can mention it now" I personally think that's a very important reminder to have hahaha
u can chose to escape the battle then the ar adunaim just pul back to their ship!
@@ramsaysnow9196 how?don't they just attack Mithlond?
I just lost Mithlond to Ardunaim invasion. I had the warning message but I thought they are going for Gondor. My closest army able to retake Mithlond is like 10 turns away. Aaaach I just fucked up a difficulty 1 campaign :D
@@petrmiros9908 don't beat yourself up,it happens more than you think,they come with good troops and even if you're there it's not a automatic victory,I had an almost full stack of sindar in Mithlond and still had to do the battle multiple times to win.
Does this still happen? Didn’t happen turn 80 for me
Boromir: “One does not simply walk into Mordor...”
A High Elf full stack: *simply walks into Mordor*
"Glorfindel is just a fun toy to have at the end of the campaign." Yeah, unless you have to wade through a veritable ocean of uruks, gobbos, trolls, men and orcs to solo kill an unleashed Isengard AND Mordor. Poor Lionheart has been at his high elf campaign for over 130 episodes now.
even the snow orks will grind down full noldor army's as they have get terrain advantage and you get a penalty in their territory and their half trolls, pale uruks and many armour piecing units will inflict significant casualty, and in the late game they can produce full stacks in 1-3 turns.
If any of you guys are really mad about the bodyguard of the twins, just change it in the data files. It’s the simplest modding anyone can do and Galu has a video showing anyone exactly how to do it(granted it’s an older video).
Thank you for this. It means so much more than you could know. :D
Galu has a video on how to edit starting generals bodyguards, not ones that get spawned in later. Because of the way they coded it you have to go to the campaign scripts files and edit them there, even though they show up in the file he tells you to edit them in. Other wise they won't spawn in properly and will get the scouts as he said in the video.
@@imnotyourbuddyguy9713 its in the modding playlist on his channel with all of his modding videos.
@@imnotyourbuddyguy9713 I think its this one. Galu starts about generals about 18 min.
th-cam.com/video/TiXMwKbrp5c/w-d-xo.html
Ernest that’s true, but I just wanted to let people know that you can edit most things in this game if you just take 20-30 min to learn the basics:)
How to build a barracks in DAC:
Other factions: capture settlement, build barracks, train troops
High Elves: capture settlement,
- make sure you control Mithlond to be able to build Teleri barracks
- make sure you have captured Ost-in-Edhil before you can ever build a Noldor barracks
- make sure you have Imladris to be able to build Noldor barracks
- check if the region is a mountain or grassland region to be able to build Noldor barracks
- check if the region is alongside a major watercourse to be able to build a Teleri barracks
Arachir: HOW COME WE GET SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS?!
@@commandersol932 I know mate, it's a joke :)
@@commandersol932 Sure, except that you see that info once, probably a good 6-12 hours of playtime before the barracks event (which might be three days to a week of real-time depending on lifestyle) and trying to remember what settlements and terrain types you need for each troop type is non-trivial.
@@boosterh1113 As he pointed out its also in the greenbook on all settlements.
Got all the settlements required, only getting Noldor Guardhall. Is there an event/date for the barracks to appear?
@@commandersol932 I mean. Its a case of you get two massive info dumps that won't be relevant for quite a while. And in a game where you might be playing on and off for days or weeks.
The Noldor regarding Sauron: They are fed up with his crap. Lol
So what you’re saying is one can simply walk into Mordor. 32:00 haha
Yeah, walked around with a full Erebor stack yesterday in Mordor through the east and they just ignored it. Never even had to declare war on Mordor to destroy the ring. Ladieda don't mind me, it's not like I'm here to eliminate your entire faction or anything as he walked right past multiple stacks near Seregost and Barad-Dûr. Taking a merchant cog from Erebor to Lest sped things up considerable
Someone should tell boromir
Well ONE can't, but a full banner army of elves sure can :D
Two Glorfindels? Now that's some lore controversy 😉
In game
"I say this is a absolute win"
In lorewise
"so you have chosen death"
Enemies when they find out I’ve got 2 Glorfindels: “This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!”
I mean, what version of Tolkien are we talking here? Is Glorfindel in LOTR Glorfindel from the Silmarillion? Who knows! Pretty sure Tolkien didnt even settle that one
@@aaronbaum54 Same Glorfindel. See Peoples of Middle-earth, chapter 13 Last Writings, Glorfindel. Essentially, after his death he was re-embodied in Aman, and later sent back to Middle-earth.
@@Tar-Elenion Oddly enough, about a decade or so there was controversy over this, even amongst diehards. I believe the slow spread of information, Amazon not being the everything store it is now, and the lack of Wikis on everything contributed to this. I always held out hope that they were the same elf, though.
I’d love to see the Twins with a unique bodyguard composed of both elves and dunedain. It would be neat.
if you cant see all their faces (/ears) you can just pretend those particular bodyguards are just such a mix :P
So, dorwinion?
Have you heard of the High Eves? Sorry have to do it
HAAAARHHHH*
HUURGHHHHH*
*dies and jumpes 5 feet in the air*
EEEH?
Any news from the other provinces?
@@MrBigCookieCrumble Nothing that I'd like to talk about.
@@alexzhang3398 i saw a mudcrab the other day.
Perhaps the Orocarni dwarves as a horde nation, much like the Mongols and Timurids in vanilla. This makes it less weird when the Blue Wizards spawn as rebels.
There is suggestions section in Discord. You can share that idea there. So devs can see it.
I completely forgot it was sunday oh am I happy i’ve got this overview
Not going to lie though that thumbnail was a bit aggressive with the white ;)
I really like the concept of the "Dunedain of Arnor" or the such, cuz it gives the possibility of freeing up Aragorn to be a Script reward for them or gondor (who I won't lie has always kinda irked me I could never get as king when playing Gondor) or something of the like. As well as giving them a unique role as being the unifier of Eregion and all the lost northern kingdoms, aka with beacon of hope. That being said I can't remember Remant of Angmar's script but if i recall they also tip a toe into this as well. so it could possibly be like Beacon of Hope Vs Angmar in trying to claim arnor under one banner! I really look forward to what's in store next week and more importantly, in version 5!
The twins actually spawn with the regular dunedain bodyguard, and you need to send a diplomat to the weathertop. Anyway, most horse archers have a missile attack of 5 or better (except one or two militia tier units available to rohan and khand), so the dunedain cav is not that good imo..
You do get a warning (I think 4 turns) before the Adunaim invasion
Is there a way to disable it. It really mess up my economy keeping all that troops there just for the scripted invasion, and given elven slooow recruitment you have to star gathering them 50 turns in advance
I love all that is DaC but Cirdan's portrait makes him look like a chubby Santa's elf haha
41:30 those Sindar units are absolutely beautiful modules well-done moding team!!
Galu, I disagree with your estimate on the numbers of the surviving northern Dunedain. There is a great article online about their estimated population, I wholeheartedly suggest you look it up, it's quite optimistic in that regard!
Basically, the author estimates their numbers to be in the low thousands, since the rangers are a fraction of the male population, cause the rest has to grow food and stuff. Also, while Halbarad was only able to gather 30ish rangers in a haste, there would be more rangers than that (even though Barliman states they've gone, but what does he know - the folk didn't often see them anyways and they might just be struggling with reduced numbers, along with the women and children (who were, admittedly, low in numbers, as Tolkien stated).
I hope you don't much take to heart my butchering of the article like this, because you can see this is a topic that I needlessly get passionate about! :D
Thank you and the team for the awesome submod!
Could you link the article please?
@@ms_publisher7143 Of course, here you go:
middle-earth.xenite.org/of-thegns-and-kings-and-rangers-and-things/
@@Laureasairon thanks that's great
High Elves really are OP, but man the recruitment and upkeep cost can easily break you.
I have never thought this campaign to be hard, and this campaign isn't anything different, but i like what you have done with this campaign.
Dreamer!
Just to know: The barded horse is a horse with plate armour to protect it from enemy arrows (you already know it). So, when it attacks, the weight of the armour is bigger than usual, thus resulting in lower speed. That's why I suppose that the creators of the game have done this slower animation. But do believe me, if they run onto a unit, no matter how heavily armoured, they will crush it.
As for the High Elves in general, I'm pretty sure that they will crush easily whatever is upon them, as the Elves are the best warriors of Middle Earth, they are hardened against Morgoth in the First Age, plus the Second Age battles against Sauron. These are the fights that matter the most, not the silly adversaries between nations and gendres, like we Men do- or the Dwarves. They are united under only one rule and they never get split. Cirdan, despite being a lord of great power within the Elves and the first Shipwright of the world, was always under the High Elven King's control, of whom the last descendant is Elrond. That's why I approve the High Elves as a united faction, thus Imladris and Mithlond as one faction. And I believe it is also lorewise. So, I support Galu and the mod team in ths decision (as an answer to the continuous moaning of the style "they ruined the game by merging Imladris and Mithlond").
Also before mithlond were the dullest faction to play as
I do believe Galadriel also has a claim to the Noldor title of the High Kingdom since both she and Elrond are distant relatives of Gil-Galad, Elrond being the lieutenant (arguably second or third in command to Gil-Galad), and Galadriel actually being a Lord of the original Noldor invasion/migration and an actual member of the House of Feanor.
Not attacking what you said, just sorta responding to that part about Elrond. I do agree with the merger, for even though there is no High King anymore, Cirdan and Elrond (and in parts Galadriel) worked together to see that Elves of the land were well cared for and protected and it makes total sense to have them together as one faction. Now whoever should be the faction head, due to game restrictions, is up for debate, whether it should be Cirdan or Elrond (even though most likely, one doesn't take precedence over the other, they rule separate regions and work together for the greater good).
@@forrestadams9340 , thanks for the reply. It's not only a good argument, but also gives extra information of how the High Elves worked together in the Third Age. Galadriel could claim for herself the title of the High Queen and I think no one would say no. She was the most powerful in Middle Earth besides Sauron himself. But she didn't. Even when Frodo offered the One Ring to herself, she was very close to accept it as a High Queen, but she rejected it. You give better than me the perspective of the High Elves in Third Age. This is why I agree with the merge of Imladris and Mithlond, and thank you for the support- hence my like in your comment.
@@forrestadams9340 I would put Elrond before Cirdan, he is also the actual heir to Thingol’s throne in middle earth, technically Mithlond was part of Beleriand so it makes sense technically Elrond goes before Cirdan
@@forrestadams9340 Nobody bothered claiming the throne anyway (maybe due to the gruesome deaths of any Calaquende who claimed a kingship or high kingship) because the population under their rule are so few and constantly leaving anyway
Such a wholesome place on TH-cam
High elves united eh? You know what that means!!!! Space for a new FACTION!!!!
I'd rather the twins have standard Dunedain bodyguards. That way they won't instantly die when literally anything looks at them funny.
I agree, the Dunedain archer cavalry is quite weak and in the late game useless. I am currently playing the Northern Dunedain campaign and pitting myself against Isengard. I usually have to use all my arrows to even kill like 2 - 3 of the late Uruk-hai armored soldiers, not to mention I cannot send them against any other normal archer unit as they would be decimated.
I think he misspoke here. I'm playing 4.5 as the High Elves now. Elladan and Elrohir do have the standard Dúnedain Bodyguards with their fantastic steelbows and axes. Their bodyguards, however, do not start at full strength, so in addition to the Dúnedain Bodyguards, they each get a single unit of Dúnedain Scouts as well. Once they are replenished up to full strength, Elladan gets about 70-ish Dúnedain Bodyguards as the faction heir and Elrohir gets about 50. Hope that clears everything up! :)
Honestly despite how hyped up elf archers are, on the whole Ive found that the Dalian black arrow archers are better against endgame unit spam from the nation's that actually make it to the endgame.
They probably do less damage overall due to lower accuracy, but you really FEEL that armor piercing when you have to put down 3 units of Oleg Hai.
But they arent the only AP Archers are they?
Edit: I just checked. All Units that use the Dunedain Steelbow are also ap (so that is Dunedain Steelbowmen [duh.], Dunedain Bodyguard and Temple Bowmen.
@@jakobschoning7355 true, but Dunedain armies in lategame tend to be a complete mishmash anyway.
Also I don't think I've ever even played Mordor.
The High Elves are better in that respect than they used to be, though. They now have the Mariners, Sindar Axemen, Elladan and Elrohir's steelbowmen bodyguards and Smiths of Eregion. Sure, most of that is melee, but with how good their archers are, you should be able to get your melee units where they need to. Not only that they also have better and more anti-cavalry units now.
On the other hand, as Galu said, armour-piercing ranged units are probably the High Elves greatest threat. It is fortunate for them that most of those are lore-wise mostly found amongst their allies. And Enedwaith, who are so much weaker that you shouldn't need to expose your generals to their javelins.
I never Played mordor either but I recently encountered these guys. But I am very sure that they only get very few so they arent a big threat, thats true
Keep up the hard work team of dac, I love this.
The elves are the best warriors ?! Damn pointy ears, this goes to the book of grudges larry !
Admin: A video about how High Elves are such easy mode anyone could win
Me: Laughs in Lionheart playthrough
Just a small tip from my ered-luin "evil" campaign.. the region with the Palantir next to Mithlond (Undertowers i think it's called) have the Palantir as a custom building and that building gives you -10% building cost reduction GLOBALLY. So you can literally rush them for that sweeeeeet discount and then you could go for the province of the south blue mountains that has gold AND silver in that province.
The campaign should be easy but with those 2 tips you should be able to expand faster and have more money for your very expensive units :)
Galu, as always, great video!!! Keep up the excelent work, cant wait for the Erebor one!
I'm doing a "good" Ered Luin campaign, and this checks out. Just did it in my new High Elf campaign (my favorite faction with Ered Luin, Khazad-dum, and Lothlorien not far behind). I am making bank, with more money than any other faction by simply taking those two areas. To be fair, I am also slowly expanding, and took Western Khazad-dum as well as Ost-in-Edhil. It's pretty nasty. Thanks for the tip.
Elrond can pretty much defeat the goblins all by himself
celebrian didnt die btw. she was just traumatized by her captivity and decided to sail to valinor
I'm so glad they changed the twin's bodyguards finally :D still miss you for V5.
I like the choice of the Dunadain for the twins. Makes sense
The Amanyar Rangers have lost the textures on their bows after the v4.5 update. I've waited for this video to see if this was the case just for my install but it's visible here as well. Their bows now have a bland white/gray area instead of the finely detailed black with white elvish script patterns like before (can be seen from their unit description picture). Interestingly the bows retain their texture when they draw their swords and put the bows on their backs. Is this related to the "re-mapping" of the HE models mentioned in the v4.5 changelog?
I think the different Elves should have different recruitment times, with the High Elves having the best units, best armor, most expensive units and slowest recruitment. The Woodland Realm had the highest population and unlike the others their population actually grew durning the 3rd age and they weren't into sailing to the west, so their recruitment times should be faster, with their big weakness being a lack of heavy armor and limited cavalry, while having a ton of great archers, shock infantry and a few spearmen.
Lothlorien should still be more defensive and more of a middle ground between the 2, the elven fractions should feel different from eachother.
Would it be possible to implement golden armor to the later game units if we upgrade them to the highest tier in future updates? Maybe it's my ocd but I love uniformity and obviously I'd love to recreate the feel of the fellowship sequence
I too wanted this, i thought if you rebuild the special smith building its armour upgrade would make all the noldor wear the golden armour.... sadly not.
Also i know the noldor are already roided to all hell but a entire event script for an extra 1 armour and no visual change IF you retrain them in that one specific region is a little disappointing
Do you plan on redoing the lore videos on feanor and his sons anytime soon? I really enjoyed them before you took them down.
I read an essay on northern dunedain population. I don't quite remember it but it concluded that there must be thousands (maybe around 5,000?) of dunedains left on Eriador. Still, an impossible faction, but one I am really grateful for.
Horse speed does work as intended by CA,the upside of a slower armored horse is that it has more mass in med 2 and it penetrates deeper in enemy formations.
I always thought that the noldor two handed swords looked less like swords and more like thracian rhomphias
Or is it the thracians who were inspired by the Noldor
Any chance you would consider adding Maglor as an extremely late game event. I know we don't know what happens to him after he throws his Silmaril into the Sea but goddamn it would be badass to have a son of Feanor in the mod.
That would be so cool, what unit could It have? Maybe eldarinwe tirno? There is not many units i can think of, and i dont think is worth it to add a unique unit just for him
@@tasorodri That's probably the only real choice. Maybe rename Gil-galad's company to Noldoran Kings Guard and give him those.
IILeao67II I’m thinking something with the style of the mithlond nobles how some have helmets and some don’t with the style of the grey company and how they all carry different weapons all that but Noldo style
hey galu, the skinschangers can't also being staggerd so this is the second one;)
Three rings for the Elven kings...
Under the stars
@@nolesquad5162 Hi Sauron
@@robbierobdergrutzkopfderwa2566 long live Tar-Mairon!
man elven traitor
@@nolesquad5162 Seven for the dwarf lords
I. Want. This!
Middle Earth! Adrian's music. It can't get any more perfect than this 😵
Have you heard of the high elves? *Dies*
"The elves tend to battle as a last resort".
The smoking carcasses of the teleri and other elves after the three kinslayings: Am I a joke to you ?
Dornostion coming once you’ve rebuilt the building in Ost-in-Edhil is broken for me in 4.5
Me too. He spawns out of Map and has 0 Units and no traits. 0 Command, Accumen and only 2 loyalty. He's pretty much useless :D It's Not tragic because you don't need him, but it would have been cool to have an extra custom general.
havent played as them but cant you just move him with the move character command in the console? Its good that you add that bug here so arachir might see it just want to know wheter or not you can still use the guy (he is kind of my favourite commander since he was introduced back in version 0.5 or something :D )
@@spirit959ful I tried it with console commands but he´s completely broken once inside the map. Like i said, 0 Units and no traits. He´s just a model without a Unit, can´t move him into any settlement. Had that bug some time ago aswell playing as Mordor when Sauron spawns in. I think some certain Generals tend to bug out when spawned through script.
Does reloading help?I'm currently experiencing the bug and my previous save is a ways back.
Will need to do a casual High Elves campaign at some point!
Playing the HE campaign right now and the twins do not spawn automatically, you do need to move a diplomat to Ost-Sul. In the video I believe you state nothing needs to happen, but moving a diplomat is next to nothing so pretty accurate.
Finally! The Elves!
I think the high-elven castles and cities have different strategy map models than the silvan elves galu! i could be wrong but i saw a white castle that the high elves built in annon en orod in my dunedain campaign! :-)
Found a small bug with Moria in which my diplomat got stuck inbetween the 2 settlements. Haha. He fell down the well I think in balins tomb
He’s a fool of a Took
Oh, Galu.....you spoiled us by showing us the House of Earendil through the High Elves, Northern Dunedain (as next), Gondor and Dol Amroth ( as previous ).
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Anyway, keep it up, bro.
Elves are the best! Thanks for showing this. Who wants to take command of the elves and kick Saourn's ass? I'm in!
The stats of the Eregion smiths make them seem like they're the best unit in the game, but they actually lose 1 on 1 to Bolg's champions. Last I checked, the only unit that can decisively beat Bolg's champion in melee are the Nazg-Hai
Sons of numenor also match them
@@ms_publisher7143 You're right, sons and smiths are very closely matched. Must be because halberds are OP. But bolg's champions need to be nerfed asap, they curbstomp both of them.
@@birdofgrey6542 yeah the issue is there are too many of them in one unite I think around 120 which means they overwhelm better units like the Smiths etc.
Smith of Eregion are the best anti-large unit in game. They'll kill even Balrog in matter of seconds. They slaughter trolls, olog-hai, mumakil and great beats as well. Thanks to their high ap
Just noticed. Forlond and Harlond regions are HUGE
The dunedain of Arnor💙💙💙
Okay so I was one of the whiners who was disappointed with the twins having Dunedain bodyguards, but after playing the High Elves I have to admit I love the bodyguards for the twins. Especially Elladan with the extra numbers is SO powerful. What also helps is that I love the look of the upgraded bodyguards. So I would like to officially say: you were right Galu.
More more faction reviews please, I learn smthng every time. (and please keep a cup of water next to you while recording god sake =))
I was upset at first about the scout bodyguards but then I saw you upgraded the scout's accuracy from average to high and their missile attack from 4 to 5 so they are considerably better than they used to be so I'm okay with this. Most people are just used to the scouts getting few kills with their bows, charging in and immediately dying. Now, I think they'll be noticeably better archers and they can run down fleeing units so they should be useful.
I kinda wish they'd be called Calaquendi, firstly since most factions have their kinda indigenous names, but also because its such a proud and ancient faction it doesn't seem as pretty to have them get this Westron english nickname that they would not call themselves
High elves sounds just too cool
Just seen off the invasion of Mithlond, only it appeared at turn 119!
It might be fun to watch someone declare on everyone from the start, as the High Elves.
It would be cool if you could get the twins as the northern dunedain if you completed certain criteria
I wish you would also present battle maps in these overviews!
The Eldarinwe Tirno are the greatest unit in the entire universe!!!
I have a bug where the call goes out for the twins to return, but they don't return. Anyone else seeing this?
the entire roster looks good says the head of the mod, quite modest xD
I didnt create them. I have never had a hand in any unit creation and I think they are the best looking of all of DaCs units. :-)
GREATEST FACTION EVER!!!!!
I got glorfindel in v3 and put him into his first battle, he charges a unit of snaga archers and 5 of eldarinwe lancers die immediately and he dies as well wtff???
Hyped for reunited kingdom.
2 Glorfindels? yes please.
Please tell me what campaign difficulty is recommended to have a challenge campaign but not impossible I am playing as dunedain in very hard but It's almost impossible to hold more than 2 or 3 settlements and angmar never stop to attack me with millions of armies. Should I set to difficult? Or normal how do you play it ?
I'm not the greatest total war player but I found it challenging enough to set the campaign difficulty to medium and then the battle difficulty to very hard or hard. I'm at turn 20 on a new dunedain campaign and both angmar and moria are attacking me from North and south but in lesser numbers, although they are gradually getting better and better armies. I haven't ever finished a dunedain campaign but that's made it a lot more enjoyable in the early game at least
Game is balanced on very hard/very hard. Everything else brakakes the game. You can put it on lower but it will brake your game both on campaign and battle. You'll get some weird stuff. So it's not worth it ever. Also no campaign is hard. Northern Dunedain have become way easier now than they were with old Angmar. I have beaten Angmar while also holding Tharbad and Suduri against Dunland and Eneswaith. You can fight Enedwaith, Dunland and Angmar at the same time. Only issue is Moria. Try to get peace with them and they gonna leave you alone or take their regions that border you and gift them to Elves for some money. They defend you and pay you so winwin. You can leave Fornost and if you can pull it off have most of Angmar armies attack Bree instead of you which helps alot. There's lot of ways to pull it off. Gondor campaign is way harder than Northern Dunedain could ever be.
Hey, I’m playing on v4.6, and I’ve reached about round 95 and there hasn’t been the invasion yet. I’m holding off on really expanding my western province as I’m waiting to first crush the Ardunaim - maintaining my 3/4 stack at Mithlond is killing my economy. Is there any reason why they might not have come yet? In a Let’s Play I saw the invasion come at round 105ish. Is there any way of knowing when they’ll come? Dunland, Isengard, Angmar and Moria are all winning, I’m running out of time 😁
One simply does walk into Mordor.. when you have a full banner
And the armory garrisons in mithlond dont spawn when the AA attack
Nope i left like 4 spaces open , like i still won cause high elves but it was a bit of a suprise 😅
"he could well make it into almarial"
I see, interesting.
weennie thepoop wasn’t just me who was like excuse me
Thank you for your work! These videos really are a useful tool for getting a better understanding for the game. Love the mod!
Do the amanyar horse archers have an armor upgrade that makes them look like the mounted imladris battalion in the first hobbit movie? I feel like i heard that in a previous vid.
Definitely going to miss my quendi units i loved them but overall i like the new high elves :)
In the future, will you be adding any more factions since you removed lindon
The Reunited Kingdom is coming in v5 I believe
Almost forgot about that. But that's basically just the Northern Dunedain
@@nolesquad5162 If I'm correct it would still need a faction slot if you want to change the name and banner to RK?
@@jkhcu I suppose so, but adding in the orocarni could be a good idea, as DaC has no true emerging factions. It would probably then have to replace, say...idk, if you've got any ideas please tell me b/c I'm stuck
Like Rhovanion maybe ?
54:20 I am going to have to take exception to you describing Gil-Galad's Company as "the best archers in the game." You seem to be forgetting that the stat in the unit card are per-model. The High-Elves own Noldor Archers are much better at killing things with arrows. Details of my testing is below, but the Noldor Archers did much, much more damage to low tier troops than the GGC, and even had an edge against tougher opponents. Volume of fire is a big deal.
Testing Details: I tested both units against both a fragile target (Uruk Hai Raiders) and a resilient one (Uruk Hai Infantry), with each pairing having five iterations. All tests were on Grassy Plains, the archers were put into 3 ranks at their start position and put on fire-at-will. Tests were stopped when the target entered melee. Of note, during the testing, all tests against the Raiders were in the rain (for both Archers)and against the Infantry was in clear weather. As well, for whatever reason, the AI was unwilling to charge for most of my tests: For all Raider tests, as well as Infantry vs GGC, the AI marched their unit up to about 15m from my archers, paused for the space of 2-3 volleys, and then issued a new march order (when zoomed in, I could hear the new movement voice call), and would march into my archers, without ever running or charging. Only in the Infantry vs NA matchup would the target force charge into my archers. In 3/5 tests, the Infantry paused very briefly (1-2 sec at battle speed 1) at the 15m mark before charging, while in the other 2 tests, they transitioned directly from the march to the charge at about the same point. Because of this, the test results against the Infantry are biased in favour of the GGC by probably 7-12 kills.
Results: Against Uruk Hai Raiders (204 models, 6 armour, 2 shield), the GGC killed an average of 66.4 models before melee, or 32.5% of the target unit. By comparison, the NA averaged a full hundred more kills (166.2), or a whopping 81.5% of the target unit. Against the Infantry (154 models, 14 armour, 4 shield) the GGC managed 21.8 kills (14.2%), while the NA killed 28.2 (18.3%). And remember, that is even with the Infantry remembering how to charge against the NA. If you remove ~6 kills from the GGC (say they get 2 extra volleys with 3 kills in each, which is a very conservative estimate) their kill rate would be barely above 10%.
In summary, despite their impressive stats, Gil-Galad's Company are nowhere close to the "best archers in the game" because their small unit size severely limits their damage output. Their performance is better the tougher your target is, but unless you are fighting all-elite stacks of Ered Luin units, Noldor Archers will out damage them with arrows. Against low tier troops, like the Uruk Hai Raiders, even thoroughly average archers like the Dalian Longbowmen will do more damage at range (38.7% kill rate, 1 test).
Remnants of Arnor might be fitting.
Elrond's wife didn't actually die, she was captured and tortured by orcs. The twins saved her and she sailed to Valiorn soon after. See Men of the West video
Watching LionheartX10 playthrough. Evil is winning globally. it is the best Letsplay I have ever seen.
Is it possible to download on MAC when you have downloaded the game by the app store?
I honestly think the High-Elves should have at least one or two more cavalry units, something at level of 'Imladris Sentinels' of TA Reforged.
Nice a new one
Have you heard of the high elves?
I don't know about being the best looking faction... personally I absolutely adore the upgraded Northern Dunedain. But you know what the say about taste.
I’ve asked before and I don’t want to be rude. I know I can use older versions of the sub-mod, but why are the two high elves combined? Similar gameplay? Making room for new factions? - isn’t the point of DaC smaller factions? love the work. I am just out of the loop.
By popular demand, one of DaC's major plans for V5 is going to be a script for the player forming the Reunited Kingdom (ie, the political unit that Aragorn rules at the end of the books), which will include the ND, Bree, later Gondor and possibly Dol Amroth; this will include new models, troop trees, buildings etc. Med II has a hard-coded limit to the number of the factions that can be in the game files, so if they want to create this new faction, they needed to get rid of an old one. Given how narrow and constrained Imladris was, and how incredibly boring the Mithlond campaign was, they decided that merging those two was the easiest way to free up a faction slot for them to use for the Reunited Kingdom.
Boosterh Thanks!
Ahhhhh yesss!! ND
You may have touched on this in a previous video, but why exactly were the Imladris Riders unit removed? Was it to make way for the addition of (formerly) Lindon units or have they become the new cavalry that Glorfindel's bodyguard has?
There isn’t a single stake unit for the high elves😕 which when I was fighting Angmar and the goblins would have been REALLY nice but high elves OP so it wasn’t a problem in the end🙂
Arachir, Celebrian is not dead. She went to Valinor.
How interesting that you can't build Teleri barracks in any Woodland Realm starting regions. Seems rather unfitting as there are rivers there and also that it's an elven land populated by the Teleri-descended Silvan elves.
Galu how do you explain this?
I also want to suggest something for the reunited kingdom script related to the Arnor discussion; Make Arnor the alternative to the reunited kingdom.
If you play as the ND you could choose to focus on rebuilding Arnor rather than uniting with Gondor, the reasons for this could be many, maybe Gondor refuses since Denethor is still alive and he will accept Aragorn as king over his dead body, or maybe Aragorn is dead and they won't accept a juvenile Eldarion on the throne. Maybe Sauron is defeated and the ring destroyed and Aragorn is not needed. Or maybe you the player just want to rp not recreating the reunited kingdom or choose to go with a steward-ruled Gondor instead. If you as Gondor denies the reunification the ND might gob for Arnor instead. Maybe if Denethor's line destroys the ring and ends the threat of Mordor forever they will be legitimized as Kings in the eyes of the people of Gondor.
A reformed Arnor doesn't need to be anything more than a event popping up and your name changing from Northern Dúnedain to Arnor. That should be doable since Third age did exactly that.
Now you might say "But then it's just a simple name change, the ND is already Arnor in everything but name". Yes true but a simple name change is all I ask for. :)
For the woodland realm is stated a few times they are much different from there western kin, so they would have different unit and ways of doing things.
51:00 it seems like the Eldarinwe Tirno are slightly better than the first legion. Stats are slightly higher but they do have a smaller troop number so maybe.
I tested them against all other elite pikes in V3 (they were called the Imladris guards but had the same stats I think) and they beat the first legion and all the others.
I prefer having the Dunedain has they are now over Arnor but the reunited Kingdom sounds like fun and a good mix of both worlds. I think people just like the feeling of restoring Arnor than playing them.
Greetings to all fellow company
The GM History guild does not actually provide global culture boost, which is annoying. However I have noticed that the law bonuses are much higher than the tooltips suggest.