Why Masculinity is NOT TOXIC: Divine Masculine vs Shadow Masculine | Aubrey Marcus Podcast
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- While men can be toxic, masculinity itself is not toxic. In this podcast we dive into the Masculine Archetype, which is present in all genders. In order to understand masculine energy, we must comprehend the full spectrum of this archetype, ranging from it’s dark shadow to its highest, divine expression. So much of what is touted today as “toxic masculinity” misrepresents the totality and potential of masculine energy.
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Founder of Onnit and modern philosopher Aubrey Marcus asks the important questions: How do we find our purpose, wake up to who we truly are, have a few more laughs, and human being a little better?
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As a psychotherapist, I just sent this to a good amount of my male clients. In hopes to keep the conversation alive. Powerful content toward the end, related to all of us being just hurt children trying to reparent ourselves while developing the necessary skill to transcend. Powerful!!!
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Do share your website Sean :D
The conversation has just begun.
May I ask if your Available as a psychotherapist? I am struggling to come into my Devine masculinity and would like some help if possible
I just talked about sacred masculinity and feminine yesterday with my girlfriend. I got struck by some my shadows while walking today and I just started to cry. Like, bawling my eyes out.. Out in public.. Standing alone with a small, fuzzy dog.
And I didn't mind. Because, I saw how I've been holding and limiting me and my partner, by not showing up. And I felt it. Used it. Told her my pain.
It's the first time, in a long time.. I've shown up for me and her. And this sacred talk, just, fucking helps.
Thanks dudes - it's awesome to be a flie on the walk. I'm grateful, thank you.
If you’re with the wrong one she’ll stop respecting you for that. If you’re with the right one you’ll be able to grow from here.
@@18JR78 As a woman - 100% true.
Thank you! I'm so bothered by the term toxic masculinity. I'm bothered by the demonizing of men happening in the world. You do great work Aubrey. And I'm a women...
I am a man and based on your comment I can sense your femininity and it is beautiful. Thank you.
@@Personalapocalypse77. Thank you for your kind words
Kindness is what the world is starving for right now...
@E A Thank you, very well put
@E A Don't think I could improve on that, you're gifted at expressing yourself through the written word. I see a loss of intelligent critical thinking on all fronts in the world today. Reading something this thoughtful makes my day. Cheer...
This is gold. Thank you gentleman. We as men need to have these conversations. You are changing the world for the better.
Agree 100% !
Around 55 min Erick talks about the micro-glances at women. My intuitions about that through psilocybin have been that you must not lust after them but be the beholder of beauty. Observe with no aggression or possessive intent, but be the Creator beholding the beauty of itself in that feminine form. This is a departure from the shadow masculine. The sacred masculine is the beholder of beauty and the desirer of that experience and the sacred feminine is the object of beauty and the one who invites the desire of witness and affords the experience of beauty in this moment of micro-glancing.
I have to thank you gentlemen. My previous life had made me so afraid of men, especially those who looked like you three strapping men. I use to weigh nearly 600 pounds and I was not treated very well by the opposite sex most of my life. I am now healing my body, and mind and you just helped me to heal a major piece of my soul, my fear of men and surety in my dislike for them in the majority. My appreciation knows no bounds. Namaste. Much love 💕💕🙏.
“There’s no pat on the back for doing it right” GOT MEEE. Fuuuuk so deep
i know I am pretty randomly asking but does anybody know a good site to stream newly released series online?
@Tanner Kannon lately I have been using Flixzone. You can find it by googling :)
@Colten Westin yea, been using Flixzone for months myself =)
@Colten Westin Thank you, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) Appreciate it !
@Tanner Kannon Glad I could help xD
Female here, starting at 1:03:10 is EXACTLY the realization I had these past 3 weeks. Beyond the Christian idolizing of virginity, there is something in waiting for that divine partner or partners. Tapping into our intuition and knowing when it's safe to "open" up. That marriage is not always a safe container to open up in; that their is a dance between the divine masculine and feminine manifest 3d and within. That waiting has less to do with "saving one's self" but deeply listening within and deciding, enthusiastically "yes, now we do. I feel ready to receive you."
This is quite the talk ☺️
Yeah that part on porn woke something in me. So profound
I opened to a girl 9 months ago. Even though she is my ex today, I truly believe she was a soulmate who was here to teach me something important! And she was the right one to open up to completely!
Yes! Not finished yet, but this is probably the bravest thing I've witnessed in a long time - raising a son... Thank you!
Aubrey you arguably have the best podcast out there, both guest and topics are so interessting and important! We as humans should be more open about everything, especially during a pandemic. Warriors like you that keep spreading love and shining light in a dark culture and society, gives me a hope that I never could image would show up. Much love
I really enjoyed Eric talking about his ayahuasca lesson about the trauma in the Feminine. He hit straight on the target, something we talk about in the kink community a lot. Consensual objectification, even consensual violence or degradation -- these things are deliciously arousing and totally okay. But non-consensual objectification is quite dangerous, both spiritually and physically. It's the doorway to rape, just as Aubrey pointed to. In the scene, we'd call this non-consensual objectifying something like "involving a stranger in your kink."
It's very interesting what you say. How the "kink community" interpret a domination fetish for example? Is it related to traumas or just the pleasure of giving up control?
@@elaxel1469 well, the desire or need to be dominated doesn't necessarily have a root cause. Sometimes it's just the way a person is.
Unbelievably high vibration conversation with men. What a beautiful sight. Thank y’all so much for being these people and putting this out there. Such powerful love.
“I’m goin to look and I am not going to look away. I am going to look until I soften. I’m going to look into that thing softens.” So powerful ….
This podcast is perfect timing. I am half way through the book, "king, warrior, magician, lover", found out about the book from your two part podcast on it. Life changing. Just the knowing of all archetypes can begin to change into your full potential. Great podcast guys
There are so many men in the spiritual
Scene that have NO CLUE how toxic they are. Love to give life advice. Take tons of selfies. It’s a huge thing.
I am discovering my feminine energy right now, which brings me confidence and assurance, but at the same time I feel that my masculine energy is despised. I get often angry, and this anger, I often swallow it, it bubbles up inside. This comes from the society that says "the one who gets angry is the bad one", and that also says "shut your mouth and be good". When I connect to my feminine energy I can calm this anger, however on the other hand, this anger is not only due to the ego, there is some truth to it! So I feel like this anger it's misunderstood masculine energy. Thank you for making this rare content to help me understand !
Joni Mitchell got it right, “ We are stardust, We are golden and we have go get back to the garden”. Matáis says we are the mind of Mother Earth so we need to be in relationship with her. Her Beauty, her power and her need to be nurtured and tended. Thank you for your vulnerable open sharing; we all have to start where we are.
“You’re not asking a god outside of you, you’re talking to a god within you”
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This is so so precious to watch!!! We need to talk more about this!
BDSM and aftercare have been a huge part of me healing my shadow masculine. Being able to fulfil those taboo desires in a healthy ways that's safe for both parties has been the most direct route to reconnecting with divinity and accepting the shadow.
So glad you guys talked about this.
Wow. Excusing the desire to abuse and claiming it's to heal yourself. That is a baffling level of narcissism. You scored a whole new level of grossness.
This is one of the most elevated, powerful and beautiful conversations I’ve heard in my 55 years on this planet.
I want to give Aubrey a big smile and hug. What a great man
This specific podcast blew my mind of how much insight they were speaking about. This is way underrated!
What an amazing group of people! Thank you for being such an inspirational mentor to me!! 🤗🙏🏻💫❤
As a woman, thank you so much. This talk to me is similar to the work of David Deida
I am honored to be apart of this conversation with you guys thank you for honoring the sacred mother divine feminine as beautiful masculine men. 🙏🤍 God bless you
The Divine masculine is so beautiful and graceful and needs to be explored more in all of our lives. Thank you for this video guys I love you
What a great talk guys. Much needed at this time in society. Talks like this will continue to educate and open people's eyes, as well as their minds. Podcasts like yours is why TV networks are dying. Too much brain wasting "programming " on TV anyway. Aubrey keep on killing it!
Eric, you’re wonderful. So nice to witness the masculine really tapping in and honoring their divinity. Well done guys.
My heart is so so full, thank you deeply for this rich podcast, it was a delight to receive all the goodness, wisdom, accountability and vulnerability you 3 amazing gentleman have brought through! Just thank you, I am grateful you exist and support the healing and maturing of the masculine! Abundantly blessings, peace and love 🙏🤍🕊️🍯🌹☀️
Thank you all for being such beautiful souls. This earth 🌎 is in desperate need for more souls like ya all.
The whole kissing on the mouth thing was a little much, but the rest was dope. 😂
love these podcasts! its friends just talking real Sh*t giving their own perspective
after deep reflection! Please post more like this
So grateful to be hearing this outward reflection articulating what I’ve been feeling, we’re all connected. Love you guys thanks for the work you do 🙏🏼
My God, this is fire, fire ! These gentlemen are full of wisdom. Luv you guys! How did you gain all that wisdom ? Beautiful articulation of these concepts. You can tell that these guys aren't forcing it out, but they understood it and now share it with full confidence.
I really love how Kyle distills so many concepts down to a short memorable phrase. I love hearing the longer explanations from the others but the clear, easily remembered short phrases are so helpful! 💘
One of the best podcasts, in general, I have watched, it makes it further special & sexy watching conscious men talking about masculinity with such honesty, vulnerability and compassion. Kudos!
Thank you for this - I've been a woman advocating this perspective for awhile now. Good to hear others talking about it!
Plant medicine brought all my trauma to the surface in 2021 and I wept in yoga 🧘♂️ for 4 months straight. It was the most powerful, beautiful, humbling experience. 🙏🏻✨
Dang, How much of the tears did you drink???
I’m a woman who grew up with a lot of emotional coldness so I relate to some of this.
I can’t even imagine the pain men carry
Just came across this tremendous conversation. My jaw dropped from 0:55 to 1:13 with the discussion of sexual trauma and the role of porn - found myself wishing an entire 2 hrs could be devoted to that. Healing in the area of prior sexual conditioning and thought patterns is extremely critical. Keep digging deeper to get at the root of the problem of the 'toxic' behavior, both male and female. What came to Erick through his ayahuasca journey begs to be thoroughly explored in all of its nuances!
I was legit not expecting y'all to go so far into kink talk and I love you all now
Yes, this video applies to both men, and women. The balance of divine masculine and feminine within us is so important. Jung himself spoke of archetypes and the shadow. The shadow part that we carry around but rarely look at. When light shines we see our shadow. Integrating the parts of us into the sum. In my work as a Psychotherapist, I see many people troubled, influenced and still living by their pasts. Male or female, we have been brainwashed/conditioned to act in certain ways. In reality, we are souls in a body. What will it take to heal our generational traumas and allow our ‘self’ to ‘be’? The very things we so easily give others- kindness, compassion, love and empathy, we need to give our self. We all have emotions- it’s what makes us humans. It’s time for us all to allow our self our truth both individually, and collectively.
Be the kind in your humankind. I wish everyone here hope, healing and love 💜
You are not afraid to explore the rabbit holes of individual journey as a man and upbring the light into the shadow corners of the journey ,these talks help to shape up the future in humanity and in our brain pathways to recollect the vision as a whole .
Lovely chat lads!
I believe that the words “Matter” and “Matrix” are both cognate with “Mother”.
Beautiful, thanks 🙏
This hit me on so many levels... and exactly what the world needs!!! Thank you so much for sharing your vulnerability
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Scrolling through these comments give me feelings of empowerment and anticipation for what I expect to be a beautiful conversation. Have a beautiful week everyone, I'll pray you all make it to the stars.
P.s. sometimes you gotta just put your feet on the grass.
@17:50 .. I wish my tears "washed away" the memories.. but it seems tears only re-hash or re-live it. Doing quite the opposite of washing away.
Its just inspiring seeing men talking like this.
Shoot. I was really interested to hear where Erick was going with the witnessed traumatized nervous system within the porn...
I was so bummed when Aubrey cut him off because I think he was onto something super important that we all need to hear. Hope Erick gets a chance to discuss that further in the future.
Yes, I know what you mean. I hate when the host or other speakers cuts off the interviewee just when I needed to hear them out.
@E A Thank you for sharing that story about Erick, will check that out and I am about 60 pages into The Way Of The Superior Man and haven't come across that chapter yet but looking forward to it.
I’m so glad I came across this! Love you AM!
Aside from the great content, love the energy exchange, the natural flow and exchange and so refreshing to hear conscious men talking like this amongst themselves…
Masculinity as advertised by our culture can be very toxic, though it is perfectly possible to be masculine in a healthy way.
I think Terence McKenna was in to something when he suggested that psychedelic mushrooms helped our hominid ancestors break away from primate male dominance patterns of behavior.
Take a manly guy and give him a point or two of molly, and he's not going to suddenly become feminine, but he surely is gonna be a lot more open to empathy and emotion and behave lovingly towards people.
I would say having a pharmacological solution to toxic traits is part of the solution. Part of it is also just having an awareness and commonly held recognition of what exactly is toxic in many men's behavior, in what ways and then making the concious decision to be masculine in a way that doesn't incorporate those toxic traits.
Bewildered by the depths and honesty of your conversation! It' s the first for me to peak into the depths of man physics! Thank you, thank you! More, please! Hugs from Sweden
"I'm probably just a fat ass caterpillar right now" 😆 might be the funniest metaphorical realization I've heard in a while
Thank you for consistently sharing much needed knowledge to the collective
I want all the men in my life to watch this. So good!
The love of the Universe brought me here, fantastic episode, helped so much. ♥️
Very grateful for the Go For Your Win course.. completely changed my life when I completed in 2019. Its time for me to review the material again, glad to hear its being rereleased
I want to hear EVERYTHING you have to say on this topic. Four more sessions, Please 🙏🏽
It's father's day as I post this. All, and mean ALL men in my life were nothing but a positive influence on me, so the idea that some people think the masculine is "wrong" in any way, just hurts my soul, especially as I raise my son.
Very informative, thank you!
This was life changing. You guys are doing incredible work.
Thanks Godsey for diving into sexual trauma and porn. I wish all men could FEEL this the way we do. Tho hardwired to love men, Im now rewiring to love a woman who has shown me more love than all her predecessors combined. Aya showed me this is the purest and safest container for me as I work through all the shadows of sexual trauma. Thank u for having these conversations. Men on this podcast are mindful, introspective, and on beautiful medicine paths, but I feel like in most self-healing circles, there's 1 dude for every 30 women...may the divine masculine gain flywheel momentum! AHO
This is such a beautiful and powerful conversation. Thank you for the positive impact you have on so many lives!
Beautiful Men 🙏🏽
I hear you Aubrey, let's not turn away, let's REALLY look... as much as women have been supressed, the feminine NEVER went away. The feminine always has had power, but because it was supressed, it came out in really covert ways... women, me, I'm not a victim of the suppression of females. And I feel this is an aspect that is being dramatically missed, is how much the shadow feminine has hurt men in an equal way that male has hurt female... When I worked at a strip club at 19 years old, I learned alot. One of the biggest things I saw was not women getting degraded, yes it happened but the vast majority of degradation was women doing it to men. A high amount of men that go into a strip club are men that are so disconnected from the feminine, they don't know where else to go to find this energy. Many of them actually believe these women truly like them and that they have a chance being with them.. look at the animal kingdom, females are predators just like the males... many females see these men in the strip club as prey. They know exactly how to pull what they want out of them and suck them dry. And what do we do as a society? We turn the other way, "if a man is dumb enough to fall for that they deserve it". I've heard that alot. How fucking degrading is that to men. Do you know how many men go into the strip club just to talk to women? It's probably alot more than most people realize... And that's not the full story. I've heard that strip clubs are full of healers. This resonates so deeply with me. Working there brought SO much healing to me.
Another point I want to bring attention to is the me too movement. As someone who has experienced traumatic sexual abuse, the me too movement really pissed me off for some reason. I see it helped some alot... AND what I came to realize was one, how many men had a me too and didn't feel like they could bring that to the surface. So much has been focuses on men abusing women, yet in, most, if not all the women I've talked to about sexual abuse, the way family members dealt with it was way more traumatic than the actual abuse by the man. Yes me too is a good starting point, but at what point are we ready to really pull off the sheets and look in the direction of how the "good" people have hurt us just as much as the people we label as abuser. I think there are steps. First feel the pain. And many people are still in that step... whose ready to feel the pain of being the abuser? Whose ready to see how that victim covertly spewed their pain in horrifically tormenting ways that cause just as much destruction as the originally abuse, sometimes more... I think it takes taking off demonization of what's happened and FULLY feeling pain without the blame and being able to go into how much pain the abuser has felt. And from being able to look at my own abuse, it's fucking brtually painful to rip off that bandaid. Especially in a culture that to some extent idolizes the victim and will cut you up and spit you out if you have done the abuse. 🎉
YEESSS!!! I got so excited when I saw you three together! I feel I haven’t seen Kyle in quite awhile.
Hold on! Did he say we kiss on the mouth? Bruh 😂😂😂... yeah I was going with it until the kissing on the mouth 🤣
In all honesty, that was the one part that jolted me, and I had to stop taking every word they said as instructions. Then they discussed divine choice. We get to choose not to be intimate in that way with anyone. What they choose is for them. I appreciate your honesty, and being the only one to speak on it.
Such a beautiful conversation. Thank you for bringing it to light! Much love
Awh..I love this! Such a great conversation. I learned so much from the 3 of you! THANK YOU!!!
Thank you so much guys 🙏❤
The insidious myth of finite resources.
Aubrey fucked up interrupting @58:30 ... dude was hitting HOME and Aub had to hijack the thought
This was a great conversation. I really enjoyed it. Thanks guys!
beautiful. Thank you Aubrey Eric and Kyle
Destruction is a form of creation Creation inverted. Possibly the death erotica is pain sublimated to pleasure. Your mind creates adaptations towards survival. Your soul will always aim towards equilibrium
Investigating Micro judgements towards other and putting the shadow in its place is such a great tool to develop as a man. Especially towards women (& the feminine)A great resource for developing your emotional intelligence is "The Sacred Seven" by Andrew Dale Ecker. Very affordable for all, read his book take the workshop. Earth based wisdom that the aubrey marcus business machine ought to bring into his circle (oh brother where are tho?). Thank you for having this conversation guys!
Can we take a second to also talk about the fact that I haven't heard an "um" or 'uhhh' or 'err' or anything like that? (outside of maybe one) There were plenty of pauses, moments where I expected it, but no. I'm sure it's probably a conscious thing, but I believe it also speaks to the confidence of their knowledge of self and how to navigate the world, even when they make mistakes.
I know it's a small observation out of a 2 hour session of so many huge wonderful revelations, but the lack of spoken self-doubt represented by placeholders like uhh or umm just communicates to the listener that there's something worth listening to.
Anyway. Thanks for this! Got a new subscriber.
Godsey at 55:50 getting ready for a big share. ❤!
tuned in
Listen to this with some Reiki music on low, hits different!
excellent discussion on such a crucial subject
Should've gotten Elliott Hulse on this, he'd set the record straight, and has true insight into the issues men growing up in THIS GENERATION face.
Man I love your podcast !
Aubrey, Idk about you, but I think it's about time you update your intro to include Erick, cause damn, is he among your best guests to date impo. Either way, keep it up man, I could never get tired of you and your guest's brain-picking.
Thank you!
Thank you Gentlemen! 💜💛
I think there's also new age gurus like ohso that had toxic masculinity as well ,its not all just Christians. I know many Christian men who are very humble men .
Yeah it can manifest anywhere. The only benefit is to really speak about what are the best parts of people we as men and women want to embody 🙏🏼
These guys are blowing my mind, but I also don't really know what's going on 10% of the time.
If you guys wanna get into this more I really recommend reading King Warrior Magician Lover by Robert Moore and Douglas Gillette to understand more of the positive and negative aspects of masculinity. It’s a great read, it’ll bring into light your shadows. 👊
They did a podcast about that months ago I think it was 4 of them it was interesting.
@@ariannagonzalez2618 oh awesome, I’ll look for it! Tnx
I am appreciating these discussions on archetypes. You guys cuss a lot! It sounds like I am at the gym. I find it interesting that as you are discussing how hard porn is on the nervous system you are all cussing away which feels like a constant attack on the nervous system. Just my observation as I listen. Otherwise, great stuff and I am tuned in.
I find it interesting that censorship is being suggested. Also, there is something likely vital rooted on why this would make one feel attacked. This is way beyond a gym. 🙏
Who is suggesting censorship? Did you read that into my thoughts? Nowhere did I say what I think Aubrey should or should not do. It is his show, and I applaud him for his work. I am only observing that, as Aubrey has mentioned before, language is magic. Language can be used to share, connect, help, and attack. For many, cussing sounds like an attack and it is hard on the nervous system, like a dog barking angrily at you every time you walk past a fence. My sense of being masculine is using language with grace, at least in the way that I see it. I think that cussing is still a bit in the shadow. That's my personal take. I suppose we could think of it like this: It would be improper to cuss in front of children or the elderly, so why then is it ok to cuss in front of each other? Don't we deserve the same thoughtfulness about what language means?
I think believing in a higher power/god/infinite zero point field will cause so much in a person that he will have to start doing and being.
I lIKE SACRED MASCULINITY BETTER THAN DIVINE … DIVINE IS OURS …
I lOVE WHEN AUBREY TALKS ABOUT RUTHLESSLY LOVING AND RUTHLESSLY
DOING ALL THAT YOU DO IN LIFE… THATS BEAUTIFUL!
awesome to start talking about this.
Aho Brothers! 💪💪
But too spiritual for my tastes, but y'all definitely held a nice open talk on this.
this feels like the mens group MKP im involved in
Thank you! There is so much man bashing at the moment and it is really hard for boys growing up constantly being told they are toxic just for being boys.
Golden, brothers