I love how his relationship with Metroman in the beginning felt more like pro wrestling than genuine animosity, with Megamind playing the role of heel to the hilt. It was very entertaining and did a good job showing that both of them were playing the roles society had put on them.
If you ask me, MegaMind was Never really a Villain. He just got dealt the wrong cards in life. the Only ''good'' he ever experienced from earth was in jail. where the ''bad'' guys resided. so he thought that being a villain was what he was supposed to be. but i think he never once was. and the movie finally makes him understand and feel that.
Even after years of being a supervillain, he was more interested in the theatrics of villainy than actually causing harm, to the point Roxanne is totally unfazed by all the deathtraps he shows off. After all, he's just trying to impress her, and Metrocity as a whole, with how "bad" he is. Hal is the opposite, only wanting the power and status of a superhero to get what _he_ wants without consequence.
Yeah this video landed completely off-target with how it was presented, repeatedly calling Megamind a villain and saying things like he didn't start good.
I feel like you're confusing "antagonist" and "villain". Megamind is a stereotypical comic book supervillain, but he's the protagonist of his own movie. That's what make this movie so special and different on the surface. On the inside, it's the classic "protagonist has to overcome his fallings and misconceptions", the classic want vs need.
@@dragontamer6498Exactly there definitely wasn't a straight-to-streaming sequel and atrocious series based on said awful sequel. Neither of those things exist thank [insert deity of choice].
Megamind being the lead and the film being a comedy helped. I'd like to see more sympathetic "villains" in non-comedic family animated films who aren't the protagonist.
I absolutely adore that people are still talking about the original movie and its brilliance even after the disaster sequel and series were released. Thank you.
Writing this before I've watched most of the video since I'm only commenting on the intro. But I'd actually say there isn't really a lack of "sympathetic villains" nowadays. A ton of the writers just forget one thing - the sympathetic villain needs their evil actions to be acknowledged as well as the good in them. Too many writers today make a villain or even a hero, who unlikable, does bad things unapologetically, plays the victim, and then they *don't* call it out. They try to lazily justify their pet character's actions or just ignore the bad things they've done, and expect the audience to side with them and forget all of it. These writers forget the redemption in a redemption arc, because they don't recognize that their character even DID bad things in the first place, and that makes the "sympathetic" villain (or "hero") impossible to actually sympathize with.
I am writing a novel with my friend, and we are on the quest to make the perfect villain. All your videos in analysis really help and then you did give me a lot of insight. I love your videos and you definitely deserve way more subscribers. Subbed!
Interesting quest but I think there will be no perfect villain. Maybe a really well written one that will be remembered for a long time but there are so many types of villains( like the sympathetic villain, the pure evil villain, the mastermind, the twist villain, the villain wannabe, the force of nature villain, a villain that serves as the evil counterpart of the hero, etc)that it‘s hard to pick which type of villain is the best. Everyone has a different taste in villainy after all. Though I am interested in how you will archive it.
@@bahesb2419 you make a good point and I didn’t literally mean a perfect villain. Of course there’s no such thing as a perfect anything. But I just want to write a villain that people will like and fear. Of course I can’t satisfy everyone, but I just hope to create a memorable one.
Megamind was never a villain, and I doubt he ever thought what he did was right. He grew up being told that he'd never amount to anything more than a bad guy, so he decided to embrace that rather than continuing to try and prove them wrong.
I have a villain that is serious but has a slow period of redemption, where towards the end, we learn more about her struggles that makes her a more deep and compelling character
MCU Killmonger is interesting to me because whether on purpose or on accident, he's a perfect example of how people can and do take real experiences of being oppressed or going through hardship, and go way too far, using it as justification for becoming the thing that they hate. In the scene where he sits down as King of Wakanda and dictates his plan to send weapons to *his* people around the world to "rise up and kill their oppressors", this one line sums it up perfectly - "The world's gonna start over, and this time WE'RE on top." You see people like this all over the internet. They think that flipping some kind of real or imagined relationship of oppression is just and righteous, not realizing that it would be just as evil. They think victimhood equals virtue, but being a victim of something doesn't prevent you from being a perpetrator of something else. What he went through as a child was real, it was unjust. He was abandoned, his father was killed, he had a hard life that can be sympathized with. But what he chose to do after should not be sympathized with. And T-challa himself shows this, as he stops Killmonger but also takes what good he can from those ideals - the drive to help people with Wakanda's resources - and strips the cruelty away, taking the harder and more just route of doing things like providing aid and shelter to those who need it.
@@vision4860 i gotta thank you for this synopsis- definitely gonna look into his character now. i'm writing a character with very similar themes (cruelty driving oneself to become the thing they hate) so taking notes from other successful narratives is a huge help.
For me, what makes me sympathy for a villain is that it is understandable that there are motives and actions .here, an example I was bullied horrible in middle school. I feel sorry for the victims i happy for their revenge, but I could never feel bad for school shooters because they kill innocent people for zero reasons, I don't care if he or she got bullied if they bullt others or mistreat even kill people who doesn't deserve it. Now, if he/she either beat or killed his bullys, judging how bad the bullys could understand and sympathy, . what im trying to say is just everyone go through something. That doesn't give you a right to hurt other people or do the same. I hope that makes sense. If it doesn't, I apologize
I love these Videos. And I must say your Video is as far I most liked because of Relating it to the real world. What I didn't really found so far was a video about a video about chaotic evil villains like joker or Kefka. I would like to write a chaotic evil villain but he always turns out to be another Kefka or joker. A villain that does evil because he wants to be evil. (I need to watch the last puss'n'boots film but I know that there is also a chaotic evil villain
The most Depth villain is CHAR AZNABLE in gundam series. he is the base of all villain in gundam universe. I hope you cover him. trust me you'll never be disappointed in his character.
You’ve got cancel culture wrong. People always climb back out of the cancel pit. The actual thing of cancel culture is to attack anyone who ever enjoyed that cancelled person or brings them up in any vaguely positive way. Like people would attack you for mentioning Voldemort, but constantly themselves talk about JKR more than people who still like her books.
@@husseinakhras8357 The film is about that character arc of him becoming good. How he was always a good guy deep down but society made him the way he is.
Bro is cranking out the most generic video essays on the most overdone topics imaginable, cause he knows the NPCs of youtube are still eating them up as if they're fresh and not completely decomposed by this point. You gotta add at least a _sprinkle_ of creativity or personality dude. Or, yknow, maybe not, considering that the current strategy seems to be working just fine how it is. Depressing, genuinely.
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I love how his relationship with Metroman in the beginning felt more like pro wrestling than genuine animosity, with Megamind playing the role of heel to the hilt. It was very entertaining and did a good job showing that both of them were playing the roles society had put on them.
Agreed
"If you don't know who you are, you become what people tell who you are." Damn I'm taking this
same
If you ask me, MegaMind was Never really a Villain. He just got dealt the wrong cards in life. the Only ''good'' he ever experienced from earth was in jail. where the ''bad'' guys resided. so he thought that being a villain was what he was supposed to be. but i think he never once was. and the movie finally makes him understand and feel that.
Even after years of being a supervillain, he was more interested in the theatrics of villainy than actually causing harm, to the point Roxanne is totally unfazed by all the deathtraps he shows off. After all, he's just trying to impress her, and Metrocity as a whole, with how "bad" he is. Hal is the opposite, only wanting the power and status of a superhero to get what _he_ wants without consequence.
He's been a hero all along.
Yeah this video landed completely off-target with how it was presented, repeatedly calling Megamind a villain and saying things like he didn't start good.
This is canon
He thinks he's the Bad guy but he isn't
@@SparkpadArthe also had no issue with returning stuff
He never was evil
Society failed him and yet he never became murderous😊
There is no Easter Bunny,
There is no Tooth Fairy,
And there are no Megamind sequels!
I feel like you're confusing "antagonist" and "villain". Megamind is a stereotypical comic book supervillain, but he's the protagonist of his own movie. That's what make this movie so special and different on the surface. On the inside, it's the classic "protagonist has to overcome his fallings and misconceptions", the classic want vs need.
Yeah, let's all just pretend that the follow up series don't exist
What follow-up series? That NEVER happened... 🤫
@@dragontamer6498Exactly there definitely wasn't a straight-to-streaming sequel and atrocious series based on said awful sequel. Neither of those things exist thank [insert deity of choice].
Agreed
The what? I don't believe they ever made one of those...
I hope Pixar makes an actual series
Megamind being the lead and the film being a comedy helped. I'd like to see more sympathetic "villains" in non-comedic family animated films who aren't the protagonist.
I absolutely adore that people are still talking about the original movie and its brilliance even after the disaster sequel and series were released. Thank you.
What sequel? Megamind doesn't have a sequel...
@@M31l0dY_YT I mean the “spinoff” or “fanfic” on peacock
@@M31l0dY_YT Yeah, it has! Everyone keep forgetting about "Megamind: The Button of Doom" :)
@@radoslavl921 OHHH right I love that sequel. It's short but it does a better job than a full-length movie
@@Soisoy54 that fanfic was terrible lmao glad it's not canon
Writing this before I've watched most of the video since I'm only commenting on the intro. But I'd actually say there isn't really a lack of "sympathetic villains" nowadays. A ton of the writers just forget one thing - the sympathetic villain needs their evil actions to be acknowledged as well as the good in them.
Too many writers today make a villain or even a hero, who unlikable, does bad things unapologetically, plays the victim, and then they *don't* call it out. They try to lazily justify their pet character's actions or just ignore the bad things they've done, and expect the audience to side with them and forget all of it.
These writers forget the redemption in a redemption arc, because they don't recognize that their character even DID bad things in the first place, and that makes the "sympathetic" villain (or "hero") impossible to actually sympathize with.
Could I have an example pls? I want to write a sympathetic villain for one of my stories, but I'm not sure how to go about with it 👀
I am writing a novel with my friend, and we are on the quest to make the perfect villain. All your videos in analysis really help and then you did give me a lot of insight. I love your videos and you definitely deserve way more subscribers. Subbed!
@@olleselin thank you very much!
Interesting quest but I think there will be no perfect villain. Maybe a really well written one that will be remembered for a long time but there are so many types of villains( like the sympathetic villain, the pure evil villain, the mastermind, the twist villain, the villain wannabe, the force of nature villain, a villain that serves as the evil counterpart of the hero, etc)that it‘s hard to pick which type of villain is the best. Everyone has a different taste in villainy after all. Though I am interested in how you will archive it.
@@bahesb2419 you make a good point and I didn’t literally mean a perfect villain. Of course there’s no such thing as a perfect anything. But I just want to write a villain that people will like and fear. Of course I can’t satisfy everyone, but I just hope to create a memorable one.
@@jjquasar And I hope you will. Wish you luck
Megamind was never a villain, and I doubt he ever thought what he did was right. He grew up being told that he'd never amount to anything more than a bad guy, so he decided to embrace that rather than continuing to try and prove them wrong.
roxy's dress slowly turns blue to show that she slowly starts to grow fond of him
I'd argue throughout the entire movie, Megamind has been the protagonist
The story for pete's sake, is told from his perspective primarily
New Channel, Great content. I'm really impressed with your content for only making it for two months! Blend of examples met with writing techniques.
I have a villain that is serious but has a slow period of redemption, where towards the end, we learn more about her struggles that makes her a more deep and compelling character
literally love megamind, killmonger and loki sm. love to see a video talking about them :)
MCU Killmonger is interesting to me because whether on purpose or on accident, he's a perfect example of how people can and do take real experiences of being oppressed or going through hardship, and go way too far, using it as justification for becoming the thing that they hate.
In the scene where he sits down as King of Wakanda and dictates his plan to send weapons to *his* people around the world to "rise up and kill their oppressors", this one line sums it up perfectly -
"The world's gonna start over, and this time WE'RE on top."
You see people like this all over the internet. They think that flipping some kind of real or imagined relationship of oppression is just and righteous, not realizing that it would be just as evil. They think victimhood equals virtue, but being a victim of something doesn't prevent you from being a perpetrator of something else.
What he went through as a child was real, it was unjust. He was abandoned, his father was killed, he had a hard life that can be sympathized with. But what he chose to do after should not be sympathized with. And T-challa himself shows this, as he stops Killmonger but also takes what good he can from those ideals - the drive to help people with Wakanda's resources - and strips the cruelty away, taking the harder and more just route of doing things like providing aid and shelter to those who need it.
@@vision4860 LITERALLY HE’S SUCH AN INTERESTING MORALLY GREY CHARACTER. wish we’d seen more of him tbh
@@vision4860 i gotta thank you for this synopsis- definitely gonna look into his character now. i'm writing a character with very similar themes (cruelty driving oneself to become the thing they hate) so taking notes from other successful narratives is a huge help.
this reminds me of a quote by Leslie Odam Jr. "If we were all judged for the worst thing we did on our worst day we weould all be villains"
I have no idea how you got in my recommended but I'm glad I found this channel! Reminds me of clean prince gaming before he disappeared
Megamind was never a villain, he was just a protagonist who had to overcome his flaws, so much so that he defeated titan at the end and saved the city
That end talk were only FACTS! Good job on spreading the word!
One of the saddest moments in the series is when Megamind says “I’m going home” and then turns himself back into prison
For me, what makes me sympathy for a villain is that it is understandable that there are motives and actions .here, an example I was bullied horrible in middle school. I feel sorry for the victims i happy for their revenge, but I could never feel bad for school shooters because they kill innocent people for zero reasons, I don't care if he or she got bullied if they bullt others or mistreat even kill people who doesn't deserve it. Now, if he/she either beat or killed his bullys, judging how bad the bullys could understand and sympathy, . what im trying to say is just everyone go through something. That doesn't give you a right to hurt other people or do the same. I hope that makes sense. If it doesn't, I apologize
I'm so glad they didn't make any prequels to this stand-alone movie
megamind wasnt a villain tho, he only seemed like one because he enjoyed acting like one, not causing harm but rather just evil laughing.
The Megamind film is one big study of Nature vs Nurture, and how birthplace, socialisation and upbringing have an impact on who we grow up to be.
I love these Videos. And I must say your Video is as far I most liked because of Relating it to the real world.
What I didn't really found so far was a video about a video about chaotic evil villains like joker or Kefka. I would like to write a chaotic evil villain but he always turns out to be another Kefka or joker. A villain that does evil because he wants to be evil. (I need to watch the last puss'n'boots film but I know that there is also a chaotic evil villain
The most Depth villain is CHAR AZNABLE in gundam series. he is the base of all villain in gundam universe.
I hope you cover him. trust me you'll never be disappointed in his character.
MetroMan? Nah Markiplier
But really these types of videos are extremely entertaining for me with a passion for writing, i hope theres gonna be more.
Hi there, I love you content. Can you please tell me from where you take all the stock footage for your YT videos? (Would help a lot)
Thank you🙏
8 views is crazy
Should Megamind even be considered a real villain?
The original Megamind movie was amazing, lets just pretend Megamind 2... Doesn't exist
the megamind movie is the only megamind movie lake logai
You’ve got cancel culture wrong. People always climb back out of the cancel pit. The actual thing of cancel culture is to attack anyone who ever enjoyed that cancelled person or brings them up in any vaguely positive way. Like people would attack you for mentioning Voldemort, but constantly themselves talk about JKR more than people who still like her books.
Cancel culture is cancer.
Fuck your feelings
Great video but YOU DID NOT SERIOUSLY JUST INSULT MY BRO FIDEL LIKE THAT (especially considering he died 8 years ago).
what type of villains is "griffith" from berserk , i think he is too complicated to be some type?
Now THIS IS PEAK CONTENT
Spoiler alert gggtm
Perfect example: Stanley forbes character in book2
megamind is the protagonist though?
An Anti-villainous protagonist
@@NeoGeo64 The video called him an antagonist, which is flat-out untrue.
WHAT
Yup the internet is dead
I hope Dreamworks makes an actual Megamind sequel
Great breakdown until you beought up 2 dogshit characters of killmonger and loki
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Bro missed the point of the movie.
How???
@@husseinakhras8357 Megamind is not a villain he's a hero. He barely does anything Villainous.
Fair enough but he wasn’t really good at the same time
@@husseinakhras8357 The film is about that character arc of him becoming good. How he was always a good guy deep down but society made him the way he is.
You keep showing harry potter, so I will just add: JK Rowling is an irredeemable villain and a terrible writer. G'day and goodbye.
Bro is cranking out the most generic video essays on the most overdone topics imaginable, cause he knows the NPCs of youtube are still eating them up as if they're fresh and not completely decomposed by this point.
You gotta add at least a _sprinkle_ of creativity or personality dude. Or, yknow, maybe not, considering that the current strategy seems to be working just fine how it is. Depressing, genuinely.
Talk Tuah podcast
10:02 no
12:21 no again
12:26 no AGAIN