Its because its have canard and lighter than anything less weight less drag need to turn easy physics gripen literally can do this with a sustained limited configuration but no AOA gripen is programable
Show two forms of documentation proving that then, since we need to do the same to get anything fixed in our favour. It's not even the best jet overall since it;s slower and has less BVR than it's peers, can't minor nations at least have one advantage without people losing their shit?
@@MrEsphoenixa literal budget fighter with a delta configuration and low t/w shouldn't be retaining its speed like this thing does regardless of what nation its from. If you ask me, the f16 is also over performing in terms of low speed maneuverability and aoa. It's not about giving smaller nations no advantages, but just about making things make sense.
The current SU-27 flight model is underperforming and kinda wonky, plus R-73s are still missing easy shots and going haywire. I expect they'll fix this later once other nations get better jets since a fully accurate SU-27 would be too OP. They added it too soon IMO, should have just done something to make the MiG-29SMT flight model a bit better for this patch and left it as the Russian top tier. Oh well.
only plane ive seen that can out dogfight a min fuel grippen is the F15A when its also on min fuel, and even then you still get 3 turns to get a kill at max
No way an f14 wins against a gripen. I'm an su 27 player and easily beat f15's and personally get bullied by gripens.the gripen turns way too fast at a high speed which you can't really counter at all. Su 27s beat f 15's because of their low stall speeds which are useless against the gripen and that something the f14 has too but just not as good.
@Thunder_Noodle you're either lying or have only ever fought the lowest skill f15s in existence if you claim the su27 reliably beats the f15. I'm p sure I still have footage of me beating a pre nerf grippen in a non spaded f15a during a prearranged dogfight. I'll also 1v1 you if you want to prove my point
@@Dovacat sure we can 1v1 but I can already say I suck since I only had the su 27 for 3 days now and only dogfaught like 3 times. I'm just chill about it but I believe you with the statement. Personally I only had ez wins against f15's and gripen beat my ass. My username is Sipherpixel add me when you want to. Also I just wanne point out that I'm not angrily trying to prove a point but just trying to have a calm and chill convo.
It would be nice to see radar displays implemented like in DCS as well as updated carrier along with more aircraft carrier capable aircraft’s (su-33 comes to mind first)
I.e. it's very much overperforming :p Mainly in energy retention. No way a draggy Delta Canard has more energy retention than a damn F-16. Gripen should be a 1 circle fighter not a 2 circle one.
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That thing is definitely overperfoming. It has virtually no drag. It barely looses speed and can out rate the block 10 f16
Its because its have canard and lighter than anything less weight less drag need to turn easy physics gripen literally can do this with a sustained limited configuration but no AOA gripen is programable
@@CruLisPnot in DCS which is much more realistic.
@@CruLisP less weight doesnt mean less drag, less area means less drag, that has a bigger area when turning than f16
Show two forms of documentation proving that then, since we need to do the same to get anything fixed in our favour. It's not even the best jet overall since it;s slower and has less BVR than it's peers, can't minor nations at least have one advantage without people losing their shit?
@@MrEsphoenixa literal budget fighter with a delta configuration and low t/w shouldn't be retaining its speed like this thing does regardless of what nation its from. If you ask me, the f16 is also over performing in terms of low speed maneuverability and aoa. It's not about giving smaller nations no advantages, but just about making things make sense.
are we just not going to talk about that r73 loosing its shit at 1:28 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The current SU-27 flight model is underperforming and kinda wonky, plus R-73s are still missing easy shots and going haywire. I expect they'll fix this later once other nations get better jets since a fully accurate SU-27 would be too OP. They added it too soon IMO, should have just done something to make the MiG-29SMT flight model a bit better for this patch and left it as the Russian top tier. Oh well.
AAM 3 > R-73
Mig 29SMT is little 💩💩💩. It's be need deleted in war thunder. The most useless top jet in the game.
f15 is not accurate at all either so yeah.
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only plane ive seen that can out dogfight a min fuel grippen is the F15A when its also on min fuel, and even then you still get 3 turns to get a kill at max
No way an f14 wins against a gripen. I'm an su 27 player and easily beat f15's and personally get bullied by gripens.the gripen turns way too fast at a high speed which you can't really counter at all. Su 27s beat f 15's because of their low stall speeds which are useless against the gripen and that something the f14 has too but just not as good.
@Thunder_Noodle you're either lying or have only ever fought the lowest skill f15s in existence if you claim the su27 reliably beats the f15. I'm p sure I still have footage of me beating a pre nerf grippen in a non spaded f15a during a prearranged dogfight. I'll also 1v1 you if you want to prove my point
@@Dovacat sure we can 1v1 but I can already say I suck since I only had the su 27 for 3 days now and only dogfaught like 3 times. I'm just chill about it but I believe you with the statement. Personally I only had ez wins against f15's and gripen beat my ass. My username is Sipherpixel add me when you want to. Also I just wanne point out that I'm not angrily trying to prove a point but just trying to have a calm and chill convo.
@@Dovacat same f15 on top
Gripen VS Ki-200
It would be nice to see radar displays implemented like in DCS as well as updated carrier along with more aircraft carrier capable aircraft’s (su-33 comes to mind first)
U sold that second fight
I simply cannot agree more
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The Gripen is very not overperforming in this case
I.e. it's very much overperforming :p
Mainly in energy retention.
No way a draggy Delta Canard has more energy retention than a damn F-16.
Gripen should be a 1 circle fighter not a 2 circle one.
@@michaelstodovski2219all the delta canards have better energy retention, especially the Eurofighter, dominates the F-16 in the rate fight.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 in certain speeds probably, otherwise, no.
The su27 is underperforming. It looses more speed than a delta even though it is known that the su27 can be a really good in the 2 circle
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 bruh what, the F-16 should beat them in a rate fight
Just killed 2 Gripens on Spain with block 50. Five kill game ez
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