You should try mountain biking, as it has a bit more thrill to it. Once the restrictions lift, go to a lift-access bikepark and rent a good quality mountain bike. You'll love it.
@@Gubuyguy It probably affects aero a little bit, doubt it's 5 watts but when it comes down to literally a inch between you and someone else slight inefficiencies like that can make the difference between winning or not.
@@Noadvantage246 I don't mean to knock roadies, I enjoy the races and I like the culture, but when you people start caring about loose watch/helmet straps or stuff like carbon seats, it makes me cringe.
@@diviscadilek1764 Yeah but keep in mind ppl literally pay thousands of dollars more for a bike slightly more aero with hidden cords and wireless features. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of that minor but EXPENSIVE adv if you're just gonna let straps from your body catch wind
@@NorCalCycling I would if British Cycling actually let me film the lead group riding away every week.... Still baffles me why the UK is the only place to ban filming in races...seems like free advertising for local events. How else would I know exactly where Alviso was? ;)
@@mental9mikey always wondered the same since Jeff had the British kid on that races crit. Is there an "official" reason besides "because we said so. now piss off."? 😂
@Edwin Jansen Kinda sissy, ain't ya? Maybe start a professional big wheels league. Mandatory pillow suits. Rev limiters on the legs. Soy milk breaks every 200 meters.
European here. I never race in crit style races, I'm more about the longer endurance and mountain events but I love your content and analysis. Super interesting.
OMG that guy was terrifying! Every pedal stroke had him wandering right to left and he’s constantly drifting into people. I’ve only made it 2:30 into the video and had to comment!
Cat 5 salute is usually taking your hands off the bars and sitting up after finishing. Not really a reason for it and not the safest when surround by a bunch of other tired cat 5's. A lot of dudes just do it to look cool. Jeff is joking about the UCI ban of the TT position being a new cat 5 salute.
1400 watts at the end of a race seems pretty sprinter-ish. From the distance he made up at the end feels like he could have been designated sprinter at the end. Also his buddy probably got a pull from others bridging. Probably could have both sprinted for 1/2 easy
Have you thought of doing a mikes bikes cat A crit zwift race? Would be really cool to see what tactics differ on zwift as you can’t steer and take the best lines
There has to be very low wind right?? I’m a heavy dude and not in great shape (6’3 and 285lbs) but I’ve played hockey my whole life and I have strong legs. I recently started biking and do a 20km loop which I average 28km/hr and that leaves me legs wobbly and breathing very hard for most of it. Not only that though I’m my top speed is 45km/hr and that’s with some decent hills. How are they possibly biking this fast? It’s honestly mind blowing. I understand weight is a huge factor and maybe that’s what is killing me.
Genola, Utah. Near Provo. It's a loop around a small solitary mountain that forms a peninsula into Utah lake that you can see. Something not mentioned is that this course almost always has a stiff prevailing wind.
I just came across your channel and I am really enjoying it. Do you have a video on recommended equipment / bikes / accessories ? I am wanting to get my bike setup with a power meter but not sure which is the best to go with. There seems to be several options out there.
He should have partnered with that other guy off the front instead of blowing past him. if they worked together at like ~330W it had a good shot at working. Solo at 450W for a minute, then a bunch of 250-300 was not the right move.
it looks windy... I thought it was a decent move in that it made the whole unorganized group start working to catch the breakaway and pulled his sprinter up to get close to the finish... but if he had 1400 watts... why not wait for the sprint and win outright.
FWIW the elevation is irrelevant in this vid - it's at 4500' but he lives there, so he's fully acclimated. It would only bother you or me coming from sea level, and even then not terrible until 6000'+ that's when the O2 diminishes enough that we'd be gasping.
"that" far down the road passed the finish (bonus guy), unlike right after crossing the line and next 150-200yds, is it really still a Cat 5 salute? #askingforafriend Also, where was this exactly in Utah because the lake(?) color was beautiful! #drearyeastcoastwinters
It's just outside Payson to the northwest, goes around West Mountain hence the name. I've always wanted to do this race but it's a long drive from Vancouver.
@@aedsy Yes, that is what the test is a measure or approximation for.. But when mentioned in the vid, was the power for the standard hour, or what's commonly done, the 20 min test.
Just an amazing narrative, I mean you are the best at it, just a little to much chitchat at the beginning, I know, not to much to talk about but still, no disrespect just saying...
@@NorCalCycling as far as I know, yes. The videos themselves upload on the form, it’s after filling everything out/uploading and then after hitting submit I get the “something went wrong)
this new rule is just like the halo rule in f1 races.. sooner or later no matter how many times you/us/we complain about this rule of the UCI it's gotta be accepted no matter what 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
This is not true bike racing, look at the size of the gaps between each rider. There’s no draughtiness or bike handling skills. So much energy wasted, cannot beat European racing on real roads......
This was a novice class with masters level mixed in. More concern about being able to walk into work on Monday minus broken collarbones than being a paper's edge distance from a back wheel. Jeff's got really good Pro/1/2 stuff on NorCal, plenty of it. I've ridden roads in various parts of Europe (just to ride). Blacktop is blacktop, here or there, because not very many pure amatuer races are doing HC routes. Let's be honest, yeah.
I have no plans to take up cycling but I watch these religiously
I’m not the most religious cycler but it is fun to hop on the bike and get a nice ride in try it sometime
You should try mountain biking, as it has a bit more thrill to it. Once the restrictions lift, go to a lift-access bikepark and rent a good quality mountain bike. You'll love it.
Loose watch strap. That's at least 5 watts
Actually?
@@Gubuyguy It probably affects aero a little bit, doubt it's 5 watts but when it comes down to literally a inch between you and someone else slight inefficiencies like that can make the difference between winning or not.
@@Noadvantage246 I don't mean to knock roadies, I enjoy the races and I like the culture, but when you people start caring about loose watch/helmet straps or stuff like carbon seats, it makes me cringe.
@@Noadvantage246 it's obviously a joke lmao
@@diviscadilek1764 Yeah but keep in mind ppl literally pay thousands of dollars more for a bike slightly more aero with hidden cords and wireless features. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of that minor but EXPENSIVE adv if you're just gonna let straps from your body catch wind
Man I can’t wait for racing to start again in the UK so I can cat 4 salute when rolling home in 15th posish 🤙
Just send me the footage so I can talk about it lol
@@NorCalCycling I would if British Cycling actually let me film the lead group riding away every week....
Still baffles me why the UK is the only place to ban filming in races...seems like free advertising for local events. How else would I know exactly where Alviso was? ;)
@@mental9mikey always wondered the same since Jeff had the British kid on that races crit. Is there an "official" reason besides "because we said so. now piss off."? 😂
@@mental9mikey so annoying! These videos inspired me to race and I want to film them but I can't because BC are tyrants.
310 FTP at Cat 4/5, you can definitely brute force your way to podiums a lot of the time with that fitness
2022: UCI Bans bicycle
The future is Brompton's! (Penny-farthing's will also make a comeback)
Just DO IT!
@Edwin Jansen Junior gearing to the rescue!
@Edwin Jansen
Kinda sissy, ain't ya?
Maybe start a professional big wheels league. Mandatory pillow suits.
Rev limiters on the legs.
Soy milk breaks every 200 meters.
@@gadsden472
Did you forget the croissants to go with that soy milk? And shouldn’t they be soy milk lattes or capps?
To do those watts to get a breakaway a few km out AND THEN still have some left for the sprint to finish third? Man got some fitness!
U mean 4th
European here. I never race in crit style races, I'm more about the longer endurance and mountain events but I love your content and analysis. Super interesting.
The amount of destruction those forearms on the bars caused was inhumane. UCI plz
Lol I just realized I had a dream about meeting jeff last night. Must be going crazy.
Hey Liam nice meeting you last night
@@NorCalCycling he didn't say what he was doing to you...may not have been nice! :)
@@fuzzynavel Well I wasn't beating him off of my perfect strategy at some crit so can't be too bad
@@liam2134 your comment stops making sense after the first six words.
@@NorCalCycling 😂😂😂
7:58 straight to jail
What is meant by "Cat 5 Salute"? Just curious. I've no idea.
@@tenderlovellcare uci prohibited riding with arms on the bars
@@valkyriewave9591 Ah... thanks for that. Appreciate it. 👍🏻
@@tenderlovellcare sitting up with your arms spread wide after crossing the finish line.
Great insightful comments. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. More than a saying. Thank you!
Until you get dropped, then it's not so slow->smooth->fast anymore.
Stumbled across your channel and I love it. Keep up the great work.
That Z5 wheel that towed him up is a former teammate. Dude is 6'8"!
Anyone else getting tense 2 minutes in watching 616 sitting in the wheels with one hand on the tops and one hand on a break?
OMG that guy was terrifying! Every pedal stroke had him wandering right to left and he’s constantly drifting into people. I’ve only made it 2:30 into the video and had to comment!
FTP 310 watts. Cat 4/5 rider? SMH. Cat up bro.
Great content as always, Jeff. Keep it up!
What is the Cat 5 salute? Resting on the bars in exhaustion?
Cat 5 salute is usually taking your hands off the bars and sitting up after finishing. Not really a reason for it and not the safest when surround by a bunch of other tired cat 5's. A lot of dudes just do it to look cool. Jeff is joking about the UCI ban of the TT position being a new cat 5 salute.
@@Nahhnope Thanks for clearing it up!
The UCI banned resting your forearms on the bars when riding?
effective april 1st (seriously)
@@NorCalCycling Here's to hoping it's just an elaborate April Fools!
@@goodkat2600 Only on your road bike obviously, not for actual TTs. They also banned the super tuck aero position.
1400 watts at the end of a race seems pretty sprinter-ish. From the distance he made up at the end feels like he could have been designated sprinter at the end. Also his buddy probably got a pull from others bridging. Probably could have both sprinted for 1/2 easy
Y da hell so long for this video huh ,you kno how long I waited for a classic one like this ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks for the video Roman, listen to Jeff and all the others need to send in their videos before their comments are worth anything.
Cat 4/5 new* racer: 310W ftp...
He's a big boy
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Must be sandbagging. That’s a bit high for a “new” racer. Lol
To cut to the chase, this was my 4th road race (ever) hence cat 4/5 and I'm 5"10/1.80m and 161lb/73kg.
I have an FTP of 302 and have never raced IRL....
@@rockycycling2102 73kg is a big boy?
Have you thought of doing a mikes bikes cat A crit zwift race? Would be really cool to see what tactics differ on zwift as you can’t steer and take the best lines
Hey what do you people think about Chris Froome's opinion on the disk brakes... I have seen most of the riders using disc brakes
Cauz they are sponsored
The world needs an alternative cycling organization.
Alternative?
Replacement
It looks like the dude on the right at 8:42 got left hanging!
There has to be very low wind right?? I’m a heavy dude and not in great shape (6’3 and 285lbs) but I’ve played hockey my whole life and I have strong legs. I recently started biking and do a 20km loop which I average 28km/hr and that leaves me legs wobbly and breathing very hard for most of it. Not only that though I’m my top speed is 45km/hr and that’s with some decent hills. How are they possibly biking this fast? It’s honestly mind blowing. I understand weight is a huge factor and maybe that’s what is killing me.
There are too many specialized Allez sprint in this race haha
This was super exciting to watch. Definitely thought it was over after he got caught. Good to have another tank I guess 😁
Awesome Race Roman! Wished I had been there to see it.
Hey thank you! you should come race with us!
Not sure where this race is but the views are so cool
he mentioned in the video but it was utah
Genola, Utah. Near Provo. It's a loop around a small solitary mountain that forms a peninsula into Utah lake that you can see. Something not mentioned is that this course almost always has a stiff prevailing wind.
@@zacandrijasevich4986 West Mountain Utah along Utah Lake. Course is dead flat.
I just came across your channel and I am really enjoying it. Do you have a video on recommended equipment / bikes / accessories ? I am wanting to get my bike setup with a power meter but not sure which is the best to go with. There seems to be several options out there.
Yes, check out my channel
Hey this Roman is a freak! A slight change of strategy and he wins easy. Give him more credit for being a monster machine. Great vid.
so for the break to work, with 3 km to go, he'd have to do like 500 w to go 45 km/h for 4 minutes ?
He should have partnered with that other guy off the front instead of blowing past him. if they worked together at like ~330W it had a good shot at working. Solo at 450W for a minute, then a bunch of 250-300 was not the right move.
It's not clear to me, what is the banned cat 5 salute? The arms on the handle bars from Roman, or the rider who came in first with the double arms up?
it looks windy... I thought it was a decent move in that it made the whole unorganized group start working to catch the breakaway and pulled his sprinter up to get close to the finish... but if he had 1400 watts... why not wait for the sprint and win outright.
need that next couch to crit episode
it's coming, putting the edit together now, hopefully in the next day or two
its winter so what if i submit zwift race footage jeff lololol
Lol #gosolocuzyolo love that.
Yes- always remember to share #gosolocuzyolo love when you send it at the end of your races or rides!
@NorCal Do you want current footage or is older stuff acceptable too?
Any interesting footage you have, doesn't matter when it was captured 👍
*UCI bans chasing your teammates*
I was just waiting for the cat4/cat5 salute call
Oh man. Guy at 1:56 with his hands on the bars. Disaster waiting to happen.
Omg, just noticed this...
Makin' the cLAME.
I wish i have one of those bikes
FWIW the elevation is irrelevant in this vid - it's at 4500' but he lives there, so he's fully acclimated. It would only bother you or me coming from sea level, and even then not terrible until 6000'+ that's when the O2 diminishes enough that we'd be gasping.
Great
Jeff your like celab Ewan, thought you were a climber😂
where was this race?
Thats exactly the strategy my mom used to get my dad
🤨
i'm seeing it at 3 am at night........i'm cracking up because how relatable is that🤣🤣
"that" far down the road passed the finish (bonus guy), unlike right after crossing the line and next 150-200yds, is it really still a Cat 5 salute? #askingforafriend Also, where was this exactly in Utah because the lake(?) color was beautiful! #drearyeastcoastwinters
It's just outside Payson to the northwest, goes around West Mountain hence the name. I've always wanted to do this race but it's a long drive from Vancouver.
When you say Roman has a 310watt ftp, do you mean 1 hour or 20 minutes?
I think 20
@@pierrevandenkieboom whew, ok, thats reasonable.
@@cliffcox7643 FTP is for an hour
@@aedsy Yes, that is what the test is a measure or approximation for.. But when mentioned in the vid, was the power for the standard hour, or what's commonly done, the 20 min test.
You can do 95% of 20 minute test for 1 hour test. So 310 is the real ftp
Master’s 4/5 is anything, but “new” racers. Most are 1 to 2 races a year for 10 years resulting in low key sandbaggers. lol.
what does mean #gosolocozyolo ? What is a full sense of this? Thks
Maks, this means to go on a solo attack at the end of the race because "you only live once", as in, what do you have to lose, just have fun!
@@bryanlrsn7 , thanks! In this case, I am got the idea of it. Because I do this kind of attack a lot. 😄
Will this channel focus on the "crit to couch" Series from now on or race recaps and analysis?
Lol you’re literally commenting on a new video of a race analysis. I think you answered your own question!
Both! and also some more videos in the works...
FTP 300W. Max sprint? 950W. There's a reason I don't race.
Just an amazing narrative, I mean you are the best at it, just a little to much chitchat at the beginning, I know, not to much to talk about but still, no disrespect just saying...
"We're contacting the UCI right now" loool
funny how cat 4 sandbaggers get lucky so often!
Got too excited.... I totally would do the same as this guy lol
I've tried to add some footage through the google form and I keep getting a "something went wrong"
Do you have enough space on your Google drive?
@@NorCalCycling as far as I know, yes. The videos themselves upload on the form, it’s after filling everything out/uploading and then after hitting submit I get the “something went wrong)
@@zchaary Can you do me a favor and double check your drive space? Make sure you're logged into the correct google account too. thanks.
What are these "Cat 5 Salute" comments? Sitting up or showing exhaustion is a Cat. 5 Salute? Or what....I don't get it.
this new rule is just like the halo rule in f1 races.. sooner or later no matter how many times you/us/we complain about this rule of the UCI it's gotta be accepted no matter what 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
If anyone else is curious about settings for video submissions, check out Jeff's video here: th-cam.com/video/_L1EyJaX5DI/w-d-xo.html
I would have been SO dropped.
What else will UCI ban?
conservatives
Hello
Hi
sweet
Oh Utah racing... it’s super stupid...
Banned UCI salute? Can someone elaborate for me
UCI banned forearms on the bars like that. Cat 5 salute is taking your hands off the bars immediately after a race, when it's most dangerous.
@@NorCalCycling I see, thanks!
😺✋🙋♂️
Me uploading my Ultra Time Trial races and getting 3 views.....
Thumbnail is clickbait
The one downvote is a guy who’s quarantined
First dislike even tho I liked it 😎
I’m early and ur awesome
This is not true bike racing, look at the size of the gaps between each rider. There’s no draughtiness or bike handling skills. So much energy wasted, cannot beat European racing on real roads......
This was a novice class with masters level mixed in. More concern about being able to walk into work on Monday minus broken collarbones than being a paper's edge distance from a back wheel. Jeff's got really good Pro/1/2 stuff on NorCal, plenty of it. I've ridden roads in various parts of Europe (just to ride). Blacktop is blacktop, here or there, because not very many pure amatuer races are doing HC routes. Let's be honest, yeah.
You’re right Ian, euros are the best, especially at being condescending.
come join us in the 123 race.
Will this channel focus on the "crit to couch" Series from now on or race recaps and analysis?