One thing that will really help the EV transition is lots more destination charging. If you're stopping overnight and you can wake up the next morning with a nearly full battery it changes the whole experience.
We're planning a 2-week road trip throughout the American Southwest and our itenerary centers around destination charging. It a hotel or motel doesn't offer destination charging, it's automatically off the list.
I just got home from a camping trip with my son. He competes in shotgun comps, we attended a national competition that happened to be about 175 miles from home. The state campground we (tent) camped in was about 160 miles away (between home and the venue.) We could have easily driven all the way there in our Model 3 base RWD (LFP) version, but I stopped to supercharge a bit just in case. That cost us $3.70. That was the ENTIRETY of our charging costs for the entire trip (about 725 miles total driven.) We’d get up, drive to the venue, drive all around it (very large area with different events in different areas), drive back to camp and would use the Tesla Mobil Connector and wake up with 100% charge (LFP) and repeated the process. It was great! Saved me a small fortune on gasoline! Spent all of it and more on buying stuff but, such is life!
Being an long terms RV guy, I have seen many shady Nema 14-50 sockets, always check for signs of damage or poor contacts at RV site Electrical posts or you could fry your EVSE plug,, unless it has temperature sensing at the plug like the ShockFlo!
That was my largest question after watching the video: are these outlets able to handle EV charging? We've seen problems with home installs with "dryer spec" NEMA 14-50 outlets, I can't imagine the abuse an RV park outlet takes and rarely is it going to be stressed as much as it will EV charging. I'd keep my eye on the connector to ensure no problems while charging.
That’s where being able to decorate the charging current is so valuable. Most of the time with camping you don’t need to charge at 40 A as you’ll be there for an extended period of time. In many cases level 1 is even adequate, do you still might want to delay the charge in current the socket seems worn, or the circuit a shared.
The biggest issue Tom (State of Charge) would have with this is the lack of a UL Certification. Yes, it keeps the cost down, but would someone want to risk their EV because they wanted to save $200 or $300?
The EVSE just connects the wall power to the car, it's not charging or converting anything it self so it can't really do damage to the car. Not like a USB charger than converts 120V to 5V DC, if it shorts out it can overpower a phone. But an EVSE just passes 120-240V to the car.
I always carry my mobile charger along with at least 5 adapters, at all times. I Can plug into sometimes garage, or a camp site, or just on an outside outlet at my destination - it’s a must!
Take a volt meter because Rvs don’t need 240v so sometimes both sides are the same leg this having 0 volts when you go phase to phase vs 240v both sides being 120v is okay only for RVs because everything on an Rv is 120v.
Even just carrying a level 1 is pretty important for any EV. Whenever I go to friend's house for a while I plug into their mains, it pulls as much a regular room heater and gives a decent amount of km after a few hours, enough to cover the trip back home at least.
You should have it sure, but if you're just going around town you don't need to worry about charging. Just top off at night and you'll be fine for 99% of situations.
Def have to know what you’re doing if you’re relying on campground to recharge your EV. Kyle is in an RV spot because he has the camper van, and those spots have the 50A/240V hookups. Those are great for level 2 charging, but are typically reserved for just RVs or van campers, and camping in a tent in an RV spot is usually not allowed or very frowned on. Most regular tent sites-if they have any electric hookup at all-will typically just have 120V service (even the 30A is just 120V) which will obviously limit your ability to recharge an EV.
Well Written! If you are tenting w/electick service, you need the '110 plug' house hold plug style. My carry on ESEV has ALL the plug types, and no high tech screen. I want electricty, not a college term paper on ' Watts vs Ohms'. Some campgrounds do not allow EV charging--the site does not have the power ability to handle the load of EV & RV. Courtesy Says- Ask about EV charging BEFORE you make a reservation.
Yup. Found this out the hard way. A Tesla does not count as a small RV with no slide outs. Pretty sure the camp host thought I was an idiot. I doubled down when I tried to move to a tent site and she relented and said if anyone asks I’m camping in a tent.
Good advice to confirm allowances ahead of time! Some RV camps are certainly fine with EV camping at full service sites and won’t force you to a ‘tent site’ as long as you are not pitching a tent. We’ve only camped that way at two RV full service sites so far though (one in FL and another in ID) and both were very accommodating and everything went well. We slept in our rooftop tent on the R1T. Charged the truck overnight on 50A service at 40A. In both cases we were camped in close proximity to big diesel rigs and we were mutually good neighbors with them. The nice thing about our approach is we easily used the camp as our hub to take day trips to remote trailheads we couldn’t have reached otherwise due to lack of public chargers. Then we drive back to camp pop open the tent again and charge up for the next day.
When I first got my Leaf I was told I couldn't do any long distance travel. At the time there were no charging stations in northern California, so I put my home charging station in my trunk and charged at RV parks. Once I got past northern California stations were nearly a dime a dozen. Made it all the way from Portland Oregon to Hanford California and back.
ShockFlo looks good... but they should definitely make a version where you can change the plug. It would be useful to connect to NEMA 6-50, 5-20, 5-15 or TT-30 that are sometimes available in different places. You could probably get some kind of adapters to use with the ShockFlo (but not sure if it will work on 120V outlet)... but that would be better if you could change the plug on the EVSE unit without fiddling with unsafe adapters. This is one thing I really like with Tesla's mobile charger... you can get all sorts of adapters. I personally have Nema 14-50, 6-50, 5-15, 5-20, 14-30 and TT-30... and I've used them all in different situations since I bought my M3 in December 2022.
My BMW i4 eDrive40 came standard with a BMW "Fast Flexible Charger." It is both a 110v level one EVSE and a 240v 40amp level two EVSE combined. The short pigtail between the EVSE and the plug is changeable. You get both 110v 15-amp and 240v 40amp NEMA 14-50 pigtails. We use the FFC as our home "charger". We had a NEMA 14-50 50amp outlet installed in the garage and we use this 99.9% of the time. We've charged at DCFC chargers only twice in 9 months and each time it was just a test of the Electrify America system (and BMW's free 30 min DCFC system). The i4 lets you de-rate the charging amperage via the BMW iphone app or the dash OS. And this is not limited to 3 or 4 specific amperages. You can set it to 22 or 37 amps if you wish. The App lets you create charge by time of day and even day of the week options. So, really, there is zero need to spend $600 to $1200 for another 3rd party EVSE.
My favorite setup is still the Tesla Mobile Charger with a J1772 converter. It allows me to use any plug type, and is UL listed, which I don't see in the product description for this. It is not 40amps and does not have any of the extra features this has though.
I made a similar comment. 40 amps is nice but you're also pushing those electrical circuits to the limit. Based on what I've seen in some of those places I wouldn't want to do that. Even though those outdoor pedestals are weather rated they're still susceptible to a lot of constant humidity.
@@andrewt9204 This happened to me, earlier this year I stayed overnight at a rundown RV park in central Washington in my Model3, and my 32A 14-50 tesla UMC overheated the plug, and it got derated to 240V-8A for the rest of the night. :(
@@chex383 That sucks. In those cases, I would set the amperage only as high as I needed to get me to a proper charger with a little buffer. 20 amps in a model 3 is usually enough to get 150mi in 8hrs overnight and likely prevent overheating. Would be nice if we had 400V 3 phase here like Germany has. That 8 amp 3 phase would have given you that 150+ miles vs 60 miles.
I wish Tesla would make their mobile connector power cable inlet a public standard, the same as they did with NACS, so that other EVSE manufacturers (like Shockflo) can use it. having the cable adaptor automatically derate the EVSE to the correct maximum current for the plug is an important safety feature to prevent people from misusing third-party adapters while maximizing, charging flexibility.
I feel like this video should have said PAID ADVERTISEMENT at the beginning since it is really about the Shockflo product. You should have mentioned that the R1T comes with its own EVSE/Portable Charger that can be used in the same way. Just saying
i feel like it should have said this is not a product that is legal to sell 🙃 but the tittle was: Is Key On Any EV Trip Or Adventure this is not sold in europe, this is a dangerous product, if it is not used correct and if you are on the road it can be hard to tell what the ratings are on the instalations, using that much power should not be allowed if the charger is not fixed to the wall, and installed by a company. imagine using this on a instalation without a fuse or a old one that have a fault in many cases you cant tell if you are on the road and it would not surprice me if some idiot went behind the meter to make money on charging or to get more costumers on the campground
@@Emily09876g I think he is saying that he checked the box on the video that it has a paid advertising. Only the video creator would see that check box. It's working for me. At the start of the video at the top left corner there is a banner that says "Includes paid promotion"
Having an EVSE that has the "nerdy details" is something I didn't know I wanted. Knowing if the line voltage is faulty or unable to ramp up to 40amps is useful data so you're not surprised in the morning with significantly less charge than expected. Thanks for the video!
This looks like a great product. I have some random charger I keep in my car that is missing a lot of the cool features this has. But…. Mine has one feature that I consider a must. The ability to connect into a standard 110 connector or the 220 connector. I think that is more valuable then all the other bells and whistles this guy offers. Regardless I think you and the team are national treasure
Thank you for this video Kyle - appreciate all of your insights - I bought a ShockFlo EVSE based on your recommendation and will be looking to use it at public campgrounds, parks etc. I also bought a Level 1 charger (none came with my Kia EV6). We were at the Outer Banks in August and since we were at a beach house for a week, we were able to charge up over a couple of days using a 110V outlet. A great/easy option for charging on vacations when your EV is parked for an extended period.
Most older campgrounds only have the Nema TT-30 outlet. The one you are using has both and that is nice. In this video it is the one next to the Nema 14-50. So I carry a NEMA TT-30P to 14-50R (ONLY for EV) adapter in my kit. Make sure that it specifies for EV only and not for motor homes.
The ability to adjust max power with a button is pretty nice for the few vehicles that don't have it, but most do. But if I didn't have a Tesla, I would still get the Tesla mobile EVSE and a Lectron Tesla -> J1772 adapter. It's very high quality and has the ability to use just about every plug out there. Sadly, no other mobile unit has a multitude of plug adapters. United Chargers (grizzl-e) said they had plans to make one a few years ago, but I haven't seen any news yet.
I agree! Looks like nice EVSE-the shockflo, but the Tesla mobile connector has all the various plugs which on the road is invaluable. If ShockFlo had all wall adapters it would be the bomb! Can’t wait till Tom Maloghny -the charger guy does the reviews on mobile EVSE Connectors.
I said this is another reply, but I wish Tesla would make their power cable adaptor an open standard like they did with NACS so that other EVSE manufacturers could use it.
The only time we carry our mobile charger is when we visit family in another state. We haven't been camping yet, but we'll bring it when we do. Other than that, there's no need. Even on those trips it's more luxury than a real need. Edit: We do have a Tesla. I can see a need for those who are using CCS networks.
I can only agree. An EVSE with all the nerdy details and giving the car the full power it can take with its onboard charger is great. Especially if that car is something small with low consumption, like the Kona. Sometimes I can drive errands for the whole day, really exceeding its range by just surfing AC chargers and industrial plugs instead of DC. I have a similar charger. It's Europe, so it's a different manufacturer, 3-phase, different plug, but with all these nerdy details too :-). There's one other big advantage for EVSE over just a wallbox cable. It's possible to connect it to an extension cord. In total, I can plug in into a power outlet that's like 15m away with the cables I have.
DC fast charging is still pretty weak in some areas of the country. Driving an EV almost doubled the drive time due to the Bolt EUV’s slow DC fast charging and having to drive a longer route than we would have had we used a gasoline car. If you are staying at campgrounds this might make the lack of DC fast charging more manageable .
I carry the one from evseadapters. I have adapters for 5-15, 5-20, 6-20, TT-30, and 14-50. The common plugs I run across in my area (6-20 is a welding outlet).
On his lasr video he confirmed in comments the wheels he was bringing back were for Anna. Kyle always says we. He says he is dating anna and Alyssa and him are friends. Alyssa is part of our of spec familly and Anna has her own job so we dont see her much.
I am not quite sure why more locations don't just have several 40am plugs installed that you can use with your own plug. It would make charging available and get rid of some of the reliability issues with chargers installed around.
@@KoreyAtterberry Yeah thats all I can imagine too. Someone needs a circuit you can install where you pay for x minutes or hours up front and after that it turns off or something. Since the plug itself is smaller then a whole unit too, you could more easily install one in each parking spot in an entire row too. I mean we have parking meters on the street that would be roughly the same size or smaller and they pay payment systems built in either either a card reader or a code for an app.
@@JoeSimonsen yep, time-based would be pretty easy. Could be automated, or as simple as the cashier setting an egg timer and chasing you off with a broom when your time is up.
If you're going to buy your first EVSC for home probably best to get a portable one before wall mount one. If you need electrician to install could have a junction box with cover plate for hard wired unit and a NEMA outlet for portable unit. Can be backup to portable that lives in EV and/or backup for home wall EVSC.
ok just adding some info on this charger: 1. Super fast shipping very easy to place my order, 2. Just plug and charge into a 14-50 super easy 3. I'm averaging around 19-20 miles per hour vs the standard rivian charger was only getting 14-15 so about a 25% increase very noticeable and very happy with my purchase so far. Thank you Kyle for the discount code and recommendation. 10/10
Just learned that my Model 3 RWD will only charge at 32 amps AC despite the wall charger being supplied by a 60 amp circuit breaker. Thanks for your great videos!
This had me really confused since Tesla's site shows Long Range with a 48 amp onboard charger and RWD with a 32 amp onboard charger, like you said, but I have a Long Range RWD from 2018, so I assume it's 48.
@@caseyknolla8419 i would assume 48 amps as well. There is one more thing that may be happening, if the car senses too much voltage drop, from a longer wire run, slightly undersized wires, or a less than optimal wire connection, the car will reduce draw so as not to damage anything, internal charging system or home wiring.
Tesla owners can buy a NEMA adapter bundle and will be abe to charge on nearly any 220 outlet using their mobile connector. Some years ago when the Supercharger network was not as robust as it is today, I planned a trip that had no charger at the place I wanted to stop for a two hour visit. Needed a charge then to continue a route that saved a big detour. I contacted a RV park and negotiated a deal to charge my car for two hours for a reasonable price. I added 60 miles of range which allowed me to take the short cut. I have not been able to convince my wife to put a mattress in the back of my Model Y and use campgrounds on our over night trips.
Don't you think the Rivian would look amazing with diamond shaped headlights...like it's badge?! The vertical stack could remain the same with just the LED "pill" shape changed.
Curious what the total usage in KWH difference between your R1T 6 hour charge session - and what some of those larger campers consume. I've seen some other videos where campsites were extremely welcoming to EV owners, as well as those that denied access completely.
30 amps peak is common for nearly any RV with AC and a microwave. 40 A peak if your RV has two ACs. Most L2 chargers pull 32-40 A, some a bit less. One big difference though. An RV has peaky demand. A charger pulls constant.
I own an E-tron and the charger is 40AMP and also if you hold down the power led on the charger it can reduce to 20AMP. Also the E-tron has an additional feature where you can swap the plug to a 110volt. Gets your facts right my guy 😊
A 32 does OK unless you have a monster battery or an inefficient vehicle. Another option given the many Tesla destination chargers in hotels and such is the Tesla Tap mini. It works just fine with 40 amp Tesla destination chargers. I carry both a Ford 32 amp charger and Tesla Tap.👍
For an EVSE product *derating* current is one key feature. the other one would be ability to schedule charging as oppose to a "delay" . I would like to charge between 2am and 5am for example.
That would require installing a battery powered real time clock, otherwise you need to set the time every time you plugged it in. For a mobile EVSE, a delay is probably good enough.
The Pion Power works pretty good however it can only be configured/started with the app.. I always leave on a big trip with it and include a 14-50 and TT-30 adapters for campgrounds and ALWAYS include a NEMA 6-50 adapter because even the smallest town or farmer homestead will have a welder receptacle...
The voltage there would probably be 2 legs of 120 volts, giving you 240 volts because trailers and motor homes are set up for 120 volts or 240. Be careful though. Some campgrounds may have the same phase on both legs, giving you only 120 volts. There is a discussion going on in the RV sphere on whether campers should pay for the extra EV charging power.
Does not seem like there is a way to swap out the connector? Some RV sites only have 30 amp 120v is my understanding. This charger also does not support 120v :(
I hate the aero cut out in the rear wheel well of the R1T. It sprays the entire side of the truck with mud, oil, wheel shiner and road grime. I put the Twraps mud flaps on to plug that hole up. Nice portable charger.
I like the display data and selectable power levels, but prefer a unit that supports multiple plug types. 9.6kW for L2 charging is excellent and much better than Tesla’s UMC V2 at 20% less power. Tesla UMC V1 supported 9.6kW and its faster charging is preferred. ShockFlo would sell many more units if the name changed.
You should have done your viewers a solid, and mentioned that it's not UL listed... I mean it might be fine for other jurisdictions, but in Canada and US, UL listed is pretty important if they want a mainstream product.... I don't get the CE standard... where in Europe can you find a n14-50 receptacle?
Good mobile charger (EVSE) expectations: - Dial amps, but not like this one: 1A step is better, especially for 120V outlets that rated 15A you want to set 13A to give wires chance to not melt stuff if you charge for long - Both 240V and 120V support + adapter for those cases when there isn't NEMA 14-50 around - No stupid no-password wi-fi hotspot that anyone can mess with
I can't seem to find any meaningful safety certifications... no NRTL like UL. There's no way I would buy this without that no matter how cool or cheap it is.
I like the electric stuff in spite of being from where I am but can't afford them. I would definitely love a lightning but will take a while to save up that much cash. I thought maybe some would be interested to know that I seen a used R1T and R1S on the used lot of a Hyudai dealership in of all places Anderson, SC. I just thought it was interesting to see those used. They also had a used Ford Maverick on the same lot. It's like seeing unicorns.
Do cars in the US not come with those? My kia ev6 came with a 240v, 12A evse for regular Schuko outlets. And you can also limit the current further on the thing. My parents hyundai has the same.
@OutofSpecReviews y’all need to call this a “within spec” review unless you test using it with some jury rigged 5-15 ==> 10-50 and 6-20 ==> 10-50 adapters. (With current appropriately set for 10 & 16 amps respectively) Also I’d love to see it plugged into a 10-50 outlet 110 circuit where both hots are the same phase (see other comments re this being common for RV hookups.). I couldn’t find anything about this in their FAQ, so testing it would truly be “out of spec”, which is what I depend on you for.
I understand this EVSE is not UL or ETL listed and am surprised that you recommend it anyway. Tom M reviewed it on State of Charge and although he liked the unit he was concerned that it wasn't safety certified. Did they tell you it was certified or are they in the process of getting it certified?
My mobile unit is a Lectron 32amp with a 14-50 plug, Will it work fine if I get a 30amp to 50amp converter plug and connect it to my car? My thinking is it will only give the car what it can?
So, given the price, why shouldn't I just use this as my permanent home EVSE? The pricing seems much more in line with the function they serve than other brands. I bought a Wallbox last year and it's perfectly fine, but it was $649.00. What am I missing?
Hey Kyle - it a few of your last videos you mention keeping your Rivian at a relatively low state of charge, 50%. Can you expand on the reason for that it a future video? I often need to leave my Rivian for months at a time and Rivian still recommends 70%? Or maybe point me in the right direction for more info? Thanks for all you do!
Mobile charger seems cool, but can you attach other modular plugs to it? TT30, 6-50 or 5-20 would be handy to have. ( and I have all of those for my Tesla UMC adapter )
Have you noticed campgrounds that are resistant to the use of their electric poles? In 2018 my wife and I went to Michigans UP. The first campground we went to had actually put electric meters on all of their poles. And were very quick to point out that if we used more than ??kw, they would make us pay $??.?? per kw. I thought that the cost of the meters, would be substantially more than any electric actually used. Anyway, ??
Yes we just got back from an EV road trip. Noticed before booking that some KOAs had become prohibitive of EVs, a non-KOA we booked at tried to add a $25 per day fee retroactively to charge. Small sample but it seems like RV campgrounds are becoming more hostile to EV campers.
I have no objections to paying by the KW if the rate is close to the local utility rate and I’m not being gouged. It’s lot like they have fast charging cabinets to pay off. And we do use more power than a typical RV. Otoh if I’m paying $25 for a space and hookups, and you want to get pissy over $8-10 of electrical, we are going to have a discussion. Especially if I’m just using the juice and not dumping any sewage or grey-water like an RV
Did a 3 day weekend TX State Park Camping session from Laredo to Corpus Beach State park, to Garner State Park. Just slept and charged in my Mach E with the Ford 32 Amp Charger was fun.
Great info as always Kyle! I'm looking forward to the nerdy efficiency vids once the full overland build is set up. Looking at a similar setup for my eventual dual motor, but I'm curious how much of an effect a RTT will have on top of a bed rack like that. Those wheels are sick too!
I'm confused by the "Turn down the power" aspect of this. Vehicles limit the power they draw. So why does a person charging need to turn down the power using the EVSE? The plug is a NEMA 14-50 , which means the circuit is rated for 50 amps. That should be the end of the story. Otherwise, the circuit or panel is not properly wired. Also, since charger companies, vehicle owners, and everyone else using EVSEs calls them "Chargers" can we just stop the EVSE stuff? Yes, we know the actual charger is inside the car, but it cannot work without the device we commonly also call a charger. Hope you have time to reply. Great video.
I actually keep 3 EVSEs in my car XD. I have a level 1 that came with my last car, the level 2 NEMA 14-50 that came with my current car, and a 40A mobile mustart NEMA 6-50 level 2 that I use for home charging which lives in my car when not charging at home.
I am looking at their product page and it mentions that it's level 1 and level 2, but does it include an adapter to plug into a standard US 120V/20A wall outlet?
Kyle, I was interested in your recommendation for the protectors against « curb tire rash protection. When I checked with company, they don’t make them for 19 » tires which on are on my new Y. Can you see if you can influence them? They only do 20 » tires. Thanks, P.Mackin Chicago
How do campgrounds feel about these high kilowatt circuits being used like this my brother routinely uses his travel trailer, which is a TT 30 and I recall Max I think it was having a problem using a campground plug to charge his car
Many campgrounds are designed to support 50 and 30 circuits at either all or some of their sites. As mentioned elsewhere in comments, at some campgrounds you are not welcome to "car park" at the 50 amp sites. These sites are typically larger and designed for large RVs and Motor homes. Many of which have multiple air conditioners and washer/dryers. So the answer to your question, "Hod do campgrounds feell......" - It varies. Over time, some camping facilities with probably encourage use by EVs at these high amperage sites and charge accordingly. Other campgrounds are probably going to increasingly restrict EVs use spots intended for camping as charging stations. I've witnessed several EVs pull into a campground "after hours" to charge and disappearing early the next morning. Not only getting free charging, but avoiding supporting the campground. As with DC fast charging etiquette, these things will work themselves out over time. But I suspect a little drama in the mean time.
80 kWh battery packs are a good fit for overnight charging at 9 kWh per hour from 240 VAC 50 Amp pluggable circuit, but what about the BEVs that have 200 kWh+ battery packs like the Hummer EV? Most around town driving and commuting is only needing to charge for 100 miles or less that easily fits into an over night charge schedule, but anything much above that say towing a boat could push it out of that over night charge window. The 50A 240 VAC plug system was already around for decades for electric stove ranges. What would be a good level of high home current charging supply for long term support of charging larger BEVs? Obviously 100 Amp seems a good step up, but is that really enough? Since it is typically charging off-peak a 100 Amp can still likely works with a standard 200 Amp home breaker box and service. Now if you have two BEVs . . . best have another house service.
I'm curious if this would work: if you purchase a Rivian Wall Charger directly from Rivian (they say up to 11.5kw) it looks like it's hard-wired in your garage, driveway...wherever. BUT....why couldn't you have it connected to a 50A circuit using a NEMA 1450 plug instead of being hard-wired? Then you could just unplug it and take it with you when you're on a road trip. Users wouldn't get the cool features of this ShockFlo of course, but why buy two chargers? On the other hand, maybe Rivian could partner with ShockFlo to make this unit available directly to their buyers instead of their in-house charger. Bottom line why couldn't any home charger be wired using a 1450 outlet so it could be unplugged and removed for road trips?
in EU shucko socket/pug is rated 16A but almost all evse are limited to 13A, electrically this 50A will work but your socket plug will became very hot and this will be not safe
I normally consider myself to be pretty pedantic when it comes to using correct terminology, but to insist an EVSE be called an "EVSE" and not "Charger" is is about the most pedantic hill to die on 😅 EVSE is required to facilitate charging; without it there's no charge to be had, so it's naturally synonymous with "charger". It's like a Venn diagram where a small circle for EVSE is fully inside a larger circle for "EV Charging Equipment". So all EVSE are chargers, but not all chargers are EVSE.
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One thing that will really help the EV transition is lots more destination charging. If you're stopping overnight and you can wake up the next morning with a nearly full battery it changes the whole experience.
We're planning a 2-week road trip throughout the American Southwest and our itenerary centers around destination charging. It a hotel or motel doesn't offer destination charging, it's automatically off the list.
Whoever decided to call this Shock[X] probably shouldn't work in marketing.
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Haha 😂
“ShockFlo, we guarantee that it will shock you”
I just got home from a camping trip with my son. He competes in shotgun comps, we attended a national competition that happened to be about 175 miles from home. The state campground we (tent) camped in was about 160 miles away (between home and the venue.) We could have easily driven all the way there in our Model 3 base RWD (LFP) version, but I stopped to supercharge a bit just in case. That cost us $3.70. That was the ENTIRETY of our charging costs for the entire trip (about 725 miles total driven.) We’d get up, drive to the venue, drive all around it (very large area with different events in different areas), drive back to camp and would use the Tesla Mobil Connector and wake up with 100% charge (LFP) and repeated the process. It was great! Saved me a small fortune on gasoline! Spent all of it and more on buying stuff but, such is life!
Being an long terms RV guy, I have seen many shady Nema 14-50 sockets, always check for signs of damage or poor contacts at RV site Electrical posts or you could fry your EVSE plug,, unless it has temperature sensing at the plug like the ShockFlo!
And a small broom for cleaning out the spiders under the cover before you reach in.
That was my largest question after watching the video: are these outlets able to handle EV charging? We've seen problems with home installs with "dryer spec" NEMA 14-50 outlets, I can't imagine the abuse an RV park outlet takes and rarely is it going to be stressed as much as it will EV charging. I'd keep my eye on the connector to ensure no problems while charging.
That’s where being able to decorate the charging current is so valuable. Most of the time with camping you don’t need to charge at 40 A as you’ll be there for an extended period of time. In many cases level 1 is even adequate, do you still might want to delay the charge in current the socket seems worn, or the circuit a shared.
@@StephenByersJright, that is probably why auto manufacturers usually only include 32 amp chargers
The biggest issue Tom (State of Charge) would have with this is the lack of a UL Certification. Yes, it keeps the cost down, but would someone want to risk their EV because they wanted to save $200 or $300?
Tom would need to stamp his approval before I buy one of these.
exactly. UL certification should be first thing you must check before buy or recommend someone an EV charger.
I will not even consider any EVSE without UL certification. Why risk it when there are so many choices?
The EVSE just connects the wall power to the car, it's not charging or converting anything it self so it can't really do damage to the car. Not like a USB charger than converts 120V to 5V DC, if it shorts out it can overpower a phone. But an EVSE just passes 120-240V to the car.
@SkaBob The EVSE could still start on fire, melt connections, and do other damage.
Those two vehicles combined costs more than my first townhome
I always carry my mobile charger along with at least 5 adapters, at all times. I Can plug into sometimes garage, or a camp site, or just on an outside outlet at my destination - it’s a must!
Take a volt meter because Rvs don’t need 240v so sometimes both sides are the same leg this having 0 volts when you go phase to phase vs 240v both sides being 120v is okay only for RVs because everything on an Rv is 120v.
Even just carrying a level 1 is pretty important for any EV. Whenever I go to friend's house for a while I plug into their mains, it pulls as much a regular room heater and gives a decent amount of km after a few hours, enough to cover the trip back home at least.
You should have it sure, but if you're just going around town you don't need to worry about charging. Just top off at night and you'll be fine for 99% of situations.
@@h0gheadS But what about [situation that's only happened to 4 people in history]? You'd be begging for an ICE car then!
I'm glad your friend likes giving away free electricity
Def have to know what you’re doing if you’re relying on campground to recharge your EV. Kyle is in an RV spot because he has the camper van, and those spots have the 50A/240V hookups. Those are great for level 2 charging, but are typically reserved for just RVs or van campers, and camping in a tent in an RV spot is usually not allowed or very frowned on. Most regular tent sites-if they have any electric hookup at all-will typically just have 120V service (even the 30A is just 120V) which will obviously limit your ability to recharge an EV.
Well Written! If you are tenting w/electick service, you need the '110
plug' house hold plug style. My carry on ESEV has ALL the plug types, and no high tech screen. I want electricty, not a college term paper on ' Watts vs Ohms'. Some campgrounds do not allow EV charging--the site does not have the power ability to handle the load of EV & RV. Courtesy Says- Ask about EV charging BEFORE you make a reservation.
Yup. Found this out the hard way. A Tesla does not count as a small RV with no slide outs. Pretty sure the camp host thought I was an idiot. I doubled down when I tried to move to a tent site and she relented and said if anyone asks I’m camping in a tent.
Good advice to confirm allowances ahead of time! Some RV camps are certainly fine with EV camping at full service sites and won’t force you to a ‘tent site’ as long as you are not pitching a tent.
We’ve only camped that way at two RV full service sites so far though (one in FL and another in ID) and both were very accommodating and everything went well. We slept in our rooftop tent on the R1T. Charged the truck overnight on 50A service at 40A. In both cases we were camped in close proximity to big diesel rigs and we were mutually good neighbors with them. The nice thing about our approach is we easily used the camp as our hub to take day trips to remote trailheads we couldn’t have reached otherwise due to lack of public chargers. Then we drive back to camp pop open the tent again and charge up for the next day.
When I first got my Leaf I was told I couldn't do any long distance travel. At the time there were no charging stations in northern California, so I put my home charging station in my trunk and charged at RV parks. Once I got past northern California stations were nearly a dime a dozen. Made it all the way from Portland Oregon to Hanford California and back.
ShockFlo looks good... but they should definitely make a version where you can change the plug. It would be useful to connect to NEMA 6-50, 5-20, 5-15 or TT-30 that are sometimes available in different places. You could probably get some kind of adapters to use with the ShockFlo (but not sure if it will work on 120V outlet)... but that would be better if you could change the plug on the EVSE unit without fiddling with unsafe adapters. This is one thing I really like with Tesla's mobile charger... you can get all sorts of adapters. I personally have Nema 14-50, 6-50, 5-15, 5-20, 14-30 and TT-30... and I've used them all in different situations since I bought my M3 in December 2022.
My BMW i4 eDrive40 came standard with a BMW "Fast Flexible Charger." It is both a 110v level one EVSE and a 240v 40amp level two EVSE combined. The short pigtail between the EVSE and the plug is changeable. You get both 110v 15-amp and 240v 40amp NEMA 14-50 pigtails. We use the FFC as our home "charger". We had a NEMA 14-50 50amp outlet installed in the garage and we use this 99.9% of the time. We've charged at DCFC chargers only twice in 9 months and each time it was just a test of the Electrify America system (and BMW's free 30 min DCFC system). The i4 lets you de-rate the charging amperage via the BMW iphone app or the dash OS. And this is not limited to 3 or 4 specific amperages. You can set it to 22 or 37 amps if you wish. The App lets you create charge by time of day and even day of the week options. So, really, there is zero need to spend $600 to $1200 for another 3rd party EVSE.
My favorite setup is still the Tesla Mobile Charger with a J1772 converter. It allows me to use any plug type, and is UL listed, which I don't see in the product description for this. It is not 40amps and does not have any of the extra features this has though.
I made a similar comment. 40 amps is nice but you're also pushing those electrical circuits to the limit. Based on what I've seen in some of those places I wouldn't want to do that. Even though those outdoor pedestals are weather rated they're still susceptible to a lot of constant humidity.
@@andrewt9204 This happened to me, earlier this year I stayed overnight at a rundown RV park in central Washington in my Model3, and my 32A 14-50 tesla UMC overheated the plug, and it got derated to 240V-8A for the rest of the night. :(
@@chex383 That sucks. In those cases, I would set the amperage only as high as I needed to get me to a proper charger with a little buffer.
20 amps in a model 3 is usually enough to get 150mi in 8hrs overnight and likely prevent overheating.
Would be nice if we had 400V 3 phase here like Germany has. That 8 amp 3 phase would have given you that 150+ miles vs 60 miles.
I wish Tesla would make their mobile connector power cable inlet a public standard, the same as they did with NACS, so that other EVSE manufacturers (like Shockflo) can use it. having the cable adaptor automatically derate the EVSE to the correct maximum current for the plug is an important safety feature to prevent people from misusing third-party adapters while maximizing, charging flexibility.
I feel like this video should have said PAID ADVERTISEMENT at the beginning since it is really about the Shockflo product. You should have mentioned that the R1T comes with its own EVSE/Portable Charger that can be used in the same way. Just saying
It does! We have it ticked on TH-cam and it’s faster charging than the Rivian EVSE
i feel like it should have said this is not a product that is legal to sell 🙃
but the tittle was: Is Key On Any EV Trip Or Adventure
this is not sold in europe, this is a dangerous product, if it is not used correct
and if you are on the road it can be hard to tell what the ratings are on the instalations, using that much power should not be allowed if the charger is not fixed to the wall, and installed by a company.
imagine using this on a instalation without a fuse or a old one that have a fault
in many cases you cant tell if you are on the road
and it would not surprice me if some idiot went behind the meter to make money on charging or to get more costumers on the campground
He did mention that the R1T comes with its own charger
@@KyleConnerwhere does it say that? I don't think we can see the checkbox you're talking about.
@@Emily09876g I think he is saying that he checked the box on the video that it has a paid advertising. Only the video creator would see that check box. It's working for me. At the start of the video at the top left corner there is a banner that says "Includes paid promotion"
Having an EVSE that has the "nerdy details" is something I didn't know I wanted. Knowing if the line voltage is faulty or unable to ramp up to 40amps is useful data so you're not surprised in the morning with significantly less charge than expected. Thanks for the video!
I find it easier to describe an EVSE as a smart extension cord.
Enjoy your quick adventure Kyle, thanks for the shout out and it really is important to have that 40 Amp charger on big battery vehicles.
However it is not worth it for this brands pricing structure. (on sale) 32A $215.00 40A $300.00
This looks like a great product. I have some random charger I keep in my car that is missing a lot of the cool features this has. But…. Mine has one feature that I consider a must. The ability to connect into a standard 110 connector or the 220 connector. I think that is more valuable then all the other bells and whistles this guy offers. Regardless I think you and the team are national treasure
Thank you for this video Kyle - appreciate all of your insights - I bought a ShockFlo EVSE based on your recommendation and will be looking to use it at public campgrounds, parks etc. I also bought a Level 1 charger (none came with my Kia EV6). We were at the Outer Banks in August and since we were at a beach house for a week, we were able to charge up over a couple of days using a 110V outlet. A great/easy option for charging on vacations when your EV is parked for an extended period.
Most older campgrounds only have the Nema TT-30 outlet. The one you are using has both and that is nice. In this video it is the one next to the Nema 14-50. So I carry a NEMA TT-30P to 14-50R (ONLY for EV) adapter in my kit. Make sure that it specifies for EV only and not for motor homes.
If it isn’t for ev use the ground will be wrong. I find it odd that the Tesla mobile doesn’t have a TT-30 available but Amazon does.
At least with Bolt, it's limited to 12amps on 120V no matter if 30amp plug is available.
The ability to adjust max power with a button is pretty nice for the few vehicles that don't have it, but most do.
But if I didn't have a Tesla, I would still get the Tesla mobile EVSE and a Lectron Tesla -> J1772 adapter. It's very high quality and has the ability to use just about every plug out there.
Sadly, no other mobile unit has a multitude of plug adapters. United Chargers (grizzl-e) said they had plans to make one a few years ago, but I haven't seen any news yet.
I agree! Looks like nice EVSE-the shockflo, but the Tesla mobile connector has all the various plugs which on the road is invaluable. If ShockFlo had all wall adapters it would be the bomb! Can’t wait till Tom Maloghny -the charger guy does the reviews on mobile EVSE Connectors.
I said this is another reply, but I wish Tesla would make their power cable adaptor an open standard like they did with NACS so that other EVSE manufacturers could use it.
The only time we carry our mobile charger is when we visit family in another state. We haven't been camping yet, but we'll bring it when we do. Other than that, there's no need. Even on those trips it's more luxury than a real need.
Edit: We do have a Tesla. I can see a need for those who are using CCS networks.
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You do realise that the environmental damage to build those vehicles far outweighs any benefits generated dont you ?
We've been doing the same thing in Colorado for the last few years in our Leaf. We rent an RV spot and pitch a tent.
I can only agree. An EVSE with all the nerdy details and giving the car the full power it can take with its onboard charger is great. Especially if that car is something small with low consumption, like the Kona. Sometimes I can drive errands for the whole day, really exceeding its range by just surfing AC chargers and industrial plugs instead of DC.
I have a similar charger. It's Europe, so it's a different manufacturer, 3-phase, different plug, but with all these nerdy details too :-).
There's one other big advantage for EVSE over just a wallbox cable. It's possible to connect it to an extension cord. In total, I can plug in into a power outlet that's like 15m away with the cables I have.
DC fast charging is still pretty weak in some areas of the country. Driving an EV almost doubled the drive time due to the Bolt EUV’s slow DC fast charging and having to drive a longer route than we would have had we used a gasoline car. If you are staying at campgrounds this might make the lack of DC fast charging more manageable .
I carry the one from evseadapters. I have adapters for 5-15, 5-20, 6-20, TT-30, and 14-50. The common plugs I run across in my area (6-20 is a welding outlet).
So "we" is Alyssa and Kyle again. Well good.
On his lasr video he confirmed in comments the wheels he was bringing back were for Anna.
Kyle always says we.
He says he is dating anna and Alyssa and him are friends.
Alyssa is part of our of spec familly and Anna has her own job so we dont see her much.
I am not quite sure why more locations don't just have several 40am plugs installed that you can use with your own plug. It would make charging available and get rid of some of the reliability issues with chargers installed around.
maybe the ability/ease of monetizing.
@@KoreyAtterberry Yeah thats all I can imagine too. Someone needs a circuit you can install where you pay for x minutes or hours up front and after that it turns off or something. Since the plug itself is smaller then a whole unit too, you could more easily install one in each parking spot in an entire row too. I mean we have parking meters on the street that would be roughly the same size or smaller and they pay payment systems built in either either a card reader or a code for an app.
@@JoeSimonsen yep, time-based would be pretty easy. Could be automated, or as simple as the cashier setting an egg timer and chasing you off with a broom when your time is up.
@@KoreyAtterberry I prefer egg timer and an employee chasing you away with a broom now lol
If you're going to buy your first EVSC for home probably best to get a portable one before wall mount one. If you need electrician to install could have a junction box with cover plate for hard wired unit and a NEMA outlet for portable unit. Can be backup to portable that lives in EV and/or backup for home wall EVSC.
bought mine thanks for the recommendation I was on Amazon looking at buying one this saved me time and money I'll let you know how it works! :)
ok just adding some info on this charger:
1. Super fast shipping very easy to place my order,
2. Just plug and charge into a 14-50 super easy
3. I'm averaging around 19-20 miles per hour vs the standard rivian charger was only getting 14-15 so about a 25% increase very noticeable and very happy with my purchase so far.
Thank you Kyle for the discount code and recommendation. 10/10
Just learned that my Model 3 RWD will only charge at 32 amps AC despite the wall charger being supplied by a 60 amp circuit breaker. Thanks for your great videos!
This had me really confused since Tesla's site shows Long Range with a 48 amp onboard charger and RWD with a 32 amp onboard charger, like you said, but I have a Long Range RWD from 2018, so I assume it's 48.
@@caseyknolla8419 i would assume 48 amps as well. There is one more thing that may be happening, if the car senses too much voltage drop, from a longer wire run, slightly undersized wires, or a less than optimal wire connection, the car will reduce draw so as not to damage anything, internal charging system or home wiring.
Tesla owners can buy a NEMA adapter bundle and will be abe to charge on nearly any 220 outlet using their mobile connector. Some years ago when the Supercharger network was not as robust as it is today, I planned a trip that had no charger at the place I wanted to stop for a two hour visit. Needed a charge then to continue a route that saved a big detour. I contacted a RV park and negotiated a deal to charge my car for two hours for a reasonable price. I added 60 miles of range which allowed me to take the short cut. I have not been able to convince my wife to put a mattress in the back of my Model Y and use campgrounds on our over night trips.
Don't you think the Rivian would look amazing with diamond shaped headlights...like it's badge?! The vertical stack could remain the same with just the LED "pill" shape changed.
BMW provides this with the iX at no additional cost. It is 40 amp and has both 220V and 110 V plugs.
Curious what the total usage in KWH difference between your R1T 6 hour charge session - and what some of those larger campers consume. I've seen some other videos where campsites were extremely welcoming to EV owners, as well as those that denied access completely.
30 amps peak is common for nearly any RV with AC and a microwave. 40 A peak if your RV has two ACs.
Most L2 chargers pull 32-40 A, some a bit less.
One big difference though. An RV has peaky demand. A charger pulls constant.
I own an E-tron and the charger is 40AMP and also if you hold down the power led on the charger it can reduce to 20AMP. Also the E-tron has an additional feature where you can swap the plug to a 110volt. Gets your facts right my guy 😊
We have one like that it is only 32A, but it's dual voltage and adjustable from about 6-32A so you can match about any outlet or circuit capacity.
The Rivian comes with one "for free" when you buy one (at least they did when I bought mine last year).
I'm trying to figure out what the difference between this thing and what I got for free with my Rivian. I wish that was discussed in the video.
@@rated_ the difference is 8A, lol
A 32 does OK unless you have a monster battery or an inefficient vehicle. Another option given the many Tesla destination chargers in hotels and such is the Tesla Tap mini. It works just fine with 40 amp Tesla destination chargers. I carry both a Ford 32 amp charger and Tesla Tap.👍
For an EVSE product *derating* current is one key feature. the other one would be ability to schedule charging as oppose to a "delay" . I would like to charge between 2am and 5am for example.
That would require installing a battery powered real time clock, otherwise you need to set the time every time you plugged it in. For a mobile EVSE, a delay is probably good enough.
I just wish the non-Tesla mobile chargers offered different socket adapters that plug directly into the mobile charger.
The Pion Power works pretty good however it can only be configured/started with the app.. I always leave on a big trip with it and include a 14-50 and TT-30 adapters for campgrounds and ALWAYS include a NEMA 6-50 adapter because even the smallest town or farmer homestead will have a welder receptacle...
The voltage there would probably be 2 legs of 120 volts, giving you 240 volts because trailers and motor homes are set up for 120 volts or 240. Be careful though. Some campgrounds may have the same phase on both legs, giving you only 120 volts. There is a discussion going on in the RV sphere on whether campers should pay for the extra EV charging power.
Some of the campgrounds around here (KOAs) have signs that forbid ANY EV charging.
On another topic, that’s a little Blackcap tweeting away above your head Kyle, lovely little birds
Does not seem like there is a way to swap out the connector? Some RV sites only have 30 amp 120v is my understanding. This charger also does not support 120v :(
I hate the aero cut out in the rear wheel well of the R1T. It sprays the entire side of the truck with mud, oil, wheel shiner and road grime. I put the Twraps mud flaps on to plug that hole up. Nice portable charger.
Agree something similar (we use Fronius Wattpilot Go) is very useful when roadtripping of the beaten track. 👍
Remember to turn off your hvac wile L2 charging. Otherwise you're decreasing you 7 kW charge down to as little as 3 kW.
I like the display data and selectable power levels, but prefer a unit that supports multiple plug types. 9.6kW for L2 charging is excellent and much better than Tesla’s UMC V2 at 20% less power. Tesla UMC V1 supported 9.6kW and its faster charging is preferred.
ShockFlo would sell many more units if the name changed.
My next vehicle will be an EV, but gonna be 5-10 years, hopefully things will be better in that time frame.
Will the Shockflo help with a regular 110 outlet?
You should have done your viewers a solid, and mentioned that it's not UL listed... I mean it might be fine for other jurisdictions, but in Canada and US, UL listed is pretty important if they want a mainstream product.... I don't get the CE standard... where in Europe can you find a n14-50 receptacle?
Good mobile charger (EVSE) expectations:
- Dial amps, but not like this one: 1A step is better, especially for 120V outlets that rated 15A you want to set 13A to give wires chance to not melt stuff if you charge for long
- Both 240V and 120V support + adapter for those cases when there isn't NEMA 14-50 around
- No stupid no-password wi-fi hotspot that anyone can mess with
XC40 Recharge comes with 40 amp EVSE, but cable is a bit short.
So, close to the subject? Is there a map somewhere that shows camp sites that allow car/tent camping and have plugs for charging?
I can't seem to find any meaningful safety certifications... no NRTL like UL.
There's no way I would buy this without that no matter how cool or cheap it is.
I like the electric stuff in spite of being from where I am but can't afford them. I would definitely love a lightning but will take a while to save up that much cash. I thought maybe some would be interested to know that I seen a used R1T and R1S on the used lot of a Hyudai dealership in of all places Anderson, SC. I just thought it was interesting to see those used. They also had a used Ford Maverick on the same lot. It's like seeing unicorns.
Do cars in the US not come with those? My kia ev6 came with a 240v, 12A evse for regular Schuko outlets. And you can also limit the current further on the thing. My parents hyundai has the same.
I thought most Campgrounds had 120v only nema 14-50 outlets? Not 240v. I just came back from Yellowstone and their RV parks are wired that way.
@OutofSpecReviews y’all need to call this a “within spec” review unless you test using it with some jury rigged 5-15 ==> 10-50 and 6-20 ==> 10-50 adapters. (With current appropriately set for 10 & 16 amps respectively)
Also I’d love to see it plugged into a 10-50 outlet 110 circuit where both hots are the same phase (see other comments re this being common for RV hookups.). I couldn’t find anything about this in their FAQ, so testing it would truly be “out of spec”, which is what I depend on you for.
Are campgrounds charging extra for EV charge?
I understand this EVSE is not UL or ETL listed and am surprised that you recommend it anyway. Tom M reviewed it on State of Charge and although he liked the unit he was concerned that it wasn't safety certified. Did they tell you it was certified or are they in the process of getting it certified?
What are the differences between this and the one that comes with Rivian?
My mobile unit is a Lectron 32amp with a 14-50 plug, Will it work fine if I get a 30amp to 50amp converter plug and connect it to my car? My thinking is it will only give the car what it can?
I think I saw you charging next to me at the Broomfield RAN yesterday😅
So, given the price, why shouldn't I just use this as my permanent home EVSE? The pricing seems much more in line with the function they serve than other brands. I bought a Wallbox last year and it's perfectly fine, but it was $649.00. What am I missing?
Hey Kyle - it a few of your last videos you mention keeping your Rivian at a relatively low state of charge, 50%. Can you expand on the reason for that it a future video? I often need to leave my Rivian for months at a time and Rivian still recommends 70%? Or maybe point me in the right direction for more info? Thanks for all you do!
Mobile charger seems cool, but can you attach other modular plugs to it? TT30, 6-50 or 5-20 would be handy to have. ( and I have all of those for my Tesla UMC adapter )
F150 owners may want to get this since the Ford cannot derate on their own.
Wait you bought the polestar one?
So much jargon. Good video recommendation for how to decode some of this?
How could a campground may charge to allow to plug in at thei facility?
Have you noticed campgrounds that are resistant to the use of their electric poles? In 2018 my wife and I went to Michigans UP. The first campground we went to had actually put electric meters on all of their poles. And were very quick to point out that if we used more than ??kw, they would make us pay $??.?? per kw. I thought that the cost of the meters, would be substantially more than any electric actually used. Anyway, ??
Yes we just got back from an EV road trip. Noticed before booking that some KOAs had become prohibitive of EVs, a non-KOA we booked at tried to add a $25 per day fee retroactively to charge. Small sample but it seems like RV campgrounds are becoming more hostile to EV campers.
I have no objections to paying by the KW if the rate is close to the local utility rate and I’m not being gouged. It’s lot like they have fast charging cabinets to pay off. And we do use more power than a typical RV. Otoh if I’m paying $25 for a space and hookups, and you want to get pissy over $8-10 of electrical, we are going to have a discussion. Especially if I’m just using the juice and not dumping any sewage or grey-water like an RV
Did a 3 day weekend TX State Park Camping session from Laredo to Corpus Beach State park, to Garner State Park. Just slept and charged in my Mach E with the Ford 32 Amp Charger was fun.
Great info as always Kyle! I'm looking forward to the nerdy efficiency vids once the full overland build is set up. Looking at a similar setup for my eventual dual motor, but I'm curious how much of an effect a RTT will have on top of a bed rack like that. Those wheels are sick too!
Ever been to Rawhide electrical station ? Giga many solar panels!
You said you didn’t want to be at 80% charge. I thought the stress was over 80 and under 20. Why limit to 50? You could probably keep above 20%
I'm confused by the "Turn down the power" aspect of this. Vehicles limit the power they draw. So why does a person charging need to turn down the power using the EVSE? The plug is a NEMA 14-50 , which means the circuit is rated for 50 amps. That should be the end of the story. Otherwise, the circuit or panel is not properly wired. Also, since charger companies, vehicle owners, and everyone else using EVSEs calls them "Chargers" can we just stop the EVSE stuff? Yes, we know the actual charger is inside the car, but it cannot work without the device we commonly also call a charger. Hope you have time to reply. Great video.
I actually keep 3 EVSEs in my car XD. I have a level 1 that came with my last car, the level 2 NEMA 14-50 that came with my current car, and a 40A mobile mustart NEMA 6-50 level 2 that I use for home charging which lives in my car when not charging at home.
Totally ridiculous. Rivian portable charger is 30 amps. Stupid purchase to gain 10 amps. This vid is just a shock flow advertisement
How does it do with the ioniq 5? They are super picky with chargers
I am looking at their product page and it mentions that it's level 1 and level 2, but does it include an adapter to plug into a standard US 120V/20A wall outlet?
Kyle,
I was interested in your recommendation for the protectors against « curb tire rash protection. When I checked with company, they don’t make them for 19 » tires which on are on my new Y. Can you see if you can influence them? They only do 20 » tires.
Thanks,
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Chicago
I really like this charger. I wonder where I could get one in Australia
How do campgrounds feel about these high kilowatt circuits being used like this my brother routinely uses his travel trailer, which is a TT 30 and I recall Max I think it was having a problem using a campground plug to charge his car
Many campgrounds are designed to support 50 and 30 circuits at either all or some of their sites. As mentioned elsewhere in comments, at some campgrounds you are not welcome to "car park" at the 50 amp sites. These sites are typically larger and designed for large RVs and Motor homes. Many of which have multiple air conditioners and washer/dryers. So the answer to your question, "Hod do campgrounds feell......" - It varies. Over time, some camping facilities with probably encourage use by EVs at these high amperage sites and charge accordingly. Other campgrounds are probably going to increasingly restrict EVs use spots intended for camping as charging stations. I've witnessed several EVs pull into a campground "after hours" to charge and disappearing early the next morning. Not only getting free charging, but avoiding supporting the campground. As with DC fast charging etiquette, these things will work themselves out over time. But I suspect a little drama in the mean time.
80 kWh battery packs are a good fit for overnight charging at 9 kWh per hour from 240 VAC 50 Amp pluggable circuit, but what about the BEVs that have 200 kWh+ battery packs like the Hummer EV? Most around town driving and commuting is only needing to charge for 100 miles or less that easily fits into an over night charge schedule, but anything much above that say towing a boat could push it out of that over night charge window. The 50A 240 VAC plug system was already around for decades for electric stove ranges. What would be a good level of high home current charging supply for long term support of charging larger BEVs? Obviously 100 Amp seems a good step up, but is that really enough? Since it is typically charging off-peak a 100 Amp can still likely works with a standard 200 Amp home breaker box and service. Now if you have two BEVs . . . best have another house service.
Hey Kyle can you review the Tesla Gen 2 mobile charger?
Imagine everyone converted EV and they use high amperage charging on the road, how would that affect the grid and price per kw.
I'm curious if this would work: if you purchase a Rivian Wall Charger directly from Rivian (they say up to 11.5kw) it looks like it's hard-wired in your garage, driveway...wherever. BUT....why couldn't you have it connected to a 50A circuit using a NEMA 1450 plug instead of being hard-wired? Then you could just unplug it and take it with you when you're on a road trip. Users wouldn't get the cool features of this ShockFlo of course, but why buy two chargers? On the other hand, maybe Rivian could partner with ShockFlo to make this unit available directly to their buyers instead of their in-house charger. Bottom line why couldn't any home charger be wired using a 1450 outlet so it could be unplugged and removed for road trips?
in EU shucko socket/pug is rated 16A but almost all evse are limited to 13A, electrically this 50A will work but your socket plug will became very hot and this will be not safe
Just was researching it and came out is not UL listed :((
7:40 Are you showing/telling us EVs in the USA do not lock the connecter into the socket when charging?
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I normally consider myself to be pretty pedantic when it comes to using correct terminology, but to insist an EVSE be called an "EVSE" and not "Charger" is is about the most pedantic hill to die on 😅 EVSE is required to facilitate charging; without it there's no charge to be had, so it's naturally synonymous with "charger". It's like a Venn diagram where a small circle for EVSE is fully inside a larger circle for "EV Charging Equipment". So all EVSE are chargers, but not all chargers are EVSE.
I was with you until I needed search terms to shop for one, and was dragged back to ‘charger’ ugh!
Kyle what wheels are those on the Rivian? They look badass
Wait, so you DID buy that Polestar after all??
Bless you for using the proper term EVSE.
So many ads you're becoming a regular TH-camr
00:52 fully agree