Tom I've been looking at this 120 volt/240 volt portable power station for a couple months now. I'm glad you did a review on it. I have the chargepoint home flex charger that I would plan on charging it with in my garage. well as you shown it doesn't work on the chargepoint home flex. they need to fix this problem before I buy it. Thanks for the review big time you just saved me a lot of grief.
Not 240v. The large outlet is a NEMA TT-30R. It’s labeled 125v and the website states it’s not 240v also. I know it’s large like a 240 V outlet but it is a high power 120 V outlet at 30 A.
my guess would be is that its because both EVSE/wall chargers and the ecoflow unit both have GFCI, which causes problems like being described. If thats the case there's no fixing, as most EV EVSE/wall chargers at 240v require GFCI for housing code and GFCI is built in to the chargers. I'd guesstimate that the ecoflow unit comes standard with GFCI as well.
So far these units have been built for the market over sea and the RV markets in their rush to bigger and more powerful units unless you buy 2 unit's there is still non built for the home owner and yet all they need to do is add a second inverter that's tied to the first for 220 volt the technology is there after all if they can tie 2 units together for 220 110 volts than it's simpler to do it all in one unit we dont need 2 sets of USB ports or 2 sets of regulated 12 volt outlets dont need 2 sets of chargers ac dc or solar as for batteries we can buy additional battery storage unit's in fact all we need for household solar power is a modular unit that starts with the batteries charge controllers and the inverter it could have a port to add a regulated 12 volt circuitry and another one for adding USB after all if using it for either household solar or emergency power supply it's not practical to use it in the kitchen might be more practical in the garage or garden shed and you probably won't want to leave your phone in either place or set up your other devices and use them there so the USB charger or 12 volt regulated circuitry is probably not going to be useful so the money for these is better used to buy an extra battery also a 110 220 volts unit with an extra battery unit would probably charge an EV faster on 220 and if one battery gives an additional 12 miles of range since the additional battery is usually a bigger capacity since it just a battery should give you double if not triple the range the question than becomes would it be able to be done the same as an propane vehicle you can put your cheater tank on wait a half hour or more for the fuel to tranfer then unhook and go or like I did with mine one was a van I put a hole in the side close to the filling port I'd put my hose on through the hole turn on the valve on the cheater hop in the driver's seat and drive it would tranfer fuel as I drove and it would empty out my30 pound cheater heater for my 2nd one an old handy bus I tied the tank close to the window and opened it up dropped the hose out the window and attach it to my tank filler so the question then becomes can you hook up the ecoflow be hooked up to charge the EV while you drive to the nearest charging station in which case the honking long hook up handle would have to be modified to make them keep closer to the car just thinking I'm not one to wait for propane to tranfer much less 2 hrs for power to tranfer so check it out put the unit in the trunk or back of the car run the cord out the window and plug in the Tesla and see if it'll drive and at what speed or do you have to wait a while before you drive and if Tesla is to smart to do it are there other EV that can
After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.
Thank you for always having integrity and honesty with your viewers. I was excited to see this as a potential for someone who might purchase this as a alternative power source in the need of a backup for their home. However, having so many issues and additional plugs that would need to be purchased, I don't know if this would be the correct solution for someone who owns an EV. I would probably recommend waiting for a V2G wall unit or a whole house battery by Tesla.
You wouldn’t call a gas can a gas generator, would you? I’ve seen them called (ESS, energy storage solution by utilities and solar companies). Or a battery backup that of course is charged.
Just FYI, a single Delta Pro can only produce 120v using the 30A NEMA TT-30R outlet. To generate 240v, you need to use two Delta Pros and their double voltage hub.
Spark charge doesn't sell to individuals I think... plus as a apartment renter I like the dual function as a home battery. 2 things I wanted to see. 240V charging and daisy chaining 240V units to provide a solution to apartment renters.
I noticed when you attempted to charge the Eco Flow from the Juice Box and the second wall charger you had the ground fault adapter installed. When you charged the Eco Flow using the third wall charger the ground fault adapter was removed and charging started.
I do really love me EF Delta pro, so much so, that I purchased the add on battery this year. So I have 7.2kW total. Would I use it as an emergency charger for my Lightning? God no. I'd get maybe 14 miles? But...I keep this in my travel trailer and use it to power everything in the trailer for a week or more. It's really just an amazing solution. But thank god I don't have to carry it around.
Hey Tom. I live your videos and reviews! I searched your channel and couldn't find anything with the Harley Davidson LiveWire. I just got one and it's amazing. I've seen videos that just give a timer for DC fast charging for it, but I was looking for one of your graphs that would show the charge rate at different SOC. Do you have plans do a LiveWire charging video? Also I'm assuming with an adapter I can use my Tesla Wall Connector to charge the LiveWire?
I’m quite confident that the Harley Davidson Livewire will work with the Tesla Wall Connector when using a TeslaTap adapter, although I have read that for North American models, 240 Volt charging the Livewire is not really faster than 120 Volt charging.
Doesn't charging slow down over 80%? I wonder if the unit would have charged faster and added more miles if you had started with a charge level of 30% or less, which is more realistically when someone would resort to a portable charger?
A Tesla (or just about any EV out there) charges much, much faster than the 1400 watts that a Tesla mobile connector can put out when connected to 120V. The Model 3 doesn’t slow down to that point until about 98-99%. The high-ish state of charge definitely did not make any difference to the charging speed in this case.
@@ouch1011 sorry, I don't believe that. I think this would have charged much better at 0 to 10%. This power unit is meant to be a replacement for a gas can. No one needs this at 80% they need it at 0 to 10%. At 80% it probably needs more power to overcome the capacity issues. I feel this wasn't a fair test base on this because it wasn't a real-life use of this unit. Not that this is a good solution to running out of electricity, because the weight of this thing would shorten your range anyway.
@@grandetaco4416 totally agree, this 80% charging up is not a realistic test, should be simulating a real situation when you had to resort to a portal charger, which means your EV got no charge left.
Hello Tom, First, I think you do a great job with your videos and your appearances with Alex. My R1S delivery window is the end of this year. I'm thinking about a Rivian wall charger. However, my garage is a couple hundred feet from my condo and there is no WiFi at the garage. 1. Is there anyway I can get OTA updates for the charger? 2. Is the Rivian the best charger for the R1S? Thank you for your assistance, Tom
Do you think if you wanted an EV but live in an apt this would be a good option to charge power bank during day and then your car at night on a daily basis?
Am I correct in understanding the battery recharge isn't linear, meaning you're likely to get more miles (and %) out of the pack if the car is at a lower % when you start?
Bigger version of charged and/or csn be charged battery pack. How heavy is this What happens if I leave this in the trunk and my car gets heated in sun for 100+ degrees? Would it requires cooling and is it not a fire Hazzard risk?
I want to ask a consciously particular question, I want to understand if anyone has tried to charge the Delta Pro with from Nissan Leaf to Delta Pro using the input charge EcoFlow EV X-Stream Adapter. Cioè da Nissan Leaf con un cavo da Tipo 1 a Tipo 2 (e con adattatore da Tipo 2 a Tipo 1) con adattatore EcoFlow EV X-Stream (DELTA Pro) per caricare la Delta Pro con la batteria della Nissan Leaf. Thanks for any reply
You forgot to mention it take hours and hours and hours to charge it via a charging station…should be great too as you sit there charging your eco while other EV’s wait on you…
The battery tech is not there yet. Gonna need at least 10 kwh, bring the weight down to 50 pounds and cost less than $1,000 for this to be a feasible portable solution.
Sorry, free isn't looked at as unbiased. If a manufacturer sends an Item to be reviewed and returned that is a bit better, but the best way is to purchase it off the shelf so no manufacturer can alter a product to be better than what is delivered to the final consumer. JMHO
That's 12 miles of range in ideal conditions (flat level ground). If you have any hills to contend with you might only get 3-4 miles of usable range. 🫤
I think we're missing the main point here - you could connect a couple solar panels to this unit and use it to top your car back up in the event of a power outage. This would enable you to run errands/buy groceries which may only use a couple percent depending on where you live - and then use this to replenish. 1000-2000w worth of panels and 6 hrs of sun plus the full 3 kw battery could make a more of a significant impact.
Do the math @thatton, you will need to go from 100 to 0 at least 33 times to come close to filling a Model 3. 100 model 3 fills or 3300 cycles will reduce the battery to 80% of its capacity and typically much lower since you may be using fast charging to begin with. So almost rendering the Ecoflow delta pro useless for EV charging ( Weight to power ratio)
Let’s say you live 10 minutes from a grocery store…. All you would need is perhaps 3-4% battery life from a Model 3 to go pick up needed supplies/medicine in the event of an extended power outage. In such extenuating circumstances- this could be a tiny insurance policy for local errands.
I wonder if the reason the Enel X and Chargepoint EVSE didn't work is because they are 40amp? Maybe the Delta Pro can't negotiate down to 32Amp properly (hopefully fixed in a software update.)
I agree I hope they can fix it in software but it may be a hardware issue. There is no negotiation down to an amperage in J1772. It’s simply that the charger notifies the vehicle how much possible power it can pull and the vehicle takes up to that amount. There is actually no restriction that the vehicle obey this however generally a circuit breaker would blow if you exceeded it.
Great review Tom - EV charging, 2 hours, 12 miles. Can the Ecoflow charge an EV while it's getting charged from solar? If it can and someone only averages 35 miles a day, this off grid solution might be all they need. What do you think?
I have an Ecoflow looking at using two of them to charge an e transit at 240v. It can charge while it’s getting charged from the sun. Each unit can have up to 1600 watts of solar I believe so two would be 3200w but I think closer to 8kw solar input would be better for charging ev depending on model and mileage requirements. The ultra is coming out this week and can have more solar but think it’s going to cost at least around 4 grand plus cost of panels. I like the idea of just using dc solar to a dc car charger and save on the cost and components of the non vehicle battery and inverter but if can’t find a setup like that hope can power off grid with either two pro or one ultra from Ecoflow and as much panels as can handle. So far very pleased with the Ecoflow pro from Costco. Definitely can charge an ev but the mileage would vary on model, solar input capacity etc
One thing that is confusing, and I think it got Tom as well. A simple 240V adapter plug will not make this unit supply 240V and charge your EVSE at a level 2 rate. The big socket on the unit is a 30A 120V outlet. For 240V, you need 2 of these monster batteries AND a special 240V cable (named Double Voltage hub) that takes the two 120V units and provides 240V L14-30 twist lock socket. Yikes! Really just a costly level 1 solution, and even more costly for level 2.
This wasn't made at aim towards as ev gas can haha. It's for home backup, electric, rv camping, offgrid haha. Yes/no it may work in a pinch. The ev plug on this is for you to be able to go to a ev station to charge it as one option of charging.
Hi Bill, If someone gets the 2 * EF Pros and the 240v hub, what connector / adapter can be used to do level 2 charging ? ( I heard about bonded cable (NEMA 14-50) but there is nothing on-line)
@@golan555 For most EVSE's, you would need something that bonds the Neutral and Ground at the EcoFlow. It doesn't do that, and that is what some EVSE's need to see in order to not indicate a fault. Some may not need this though - you'd have to test with your particular EVSE (the Tesla ones do need this). This is most easily accomplished with plugging something into either of the 120V outlets on the 240V adapter. Search for 'generator bonding plug'. Range from $5 - $15, or you can make your own with a plug (connect neutral and ground with a wire).
The Delta Pro is a good battery but you did not have solar panels to generate electricity you did not give this experiment the best opportunity charge the car you should have hooked up the solar panels to the Delta Pro and then seeing how long would it take to charge a Tesla or you could have bought the Delta fuel generator and put gasoline in it and put it in the back of the trunk and see how long that took charge the Tesla
I believe another youtuber, Will Prowes, messed up the DC charging module inside his eco flow by adding the grounding plug and charging his Tesla. In his video he says eco flow does not recommend charging an EV since you have to add the grounding plug. His inverter still worked but the issue with bonding fried his DC charging ability so he can not charge it from solar.
Thanks for the very informative review. This battery back-up unit is more suited to camping than EV emergency charging. Due to battery weight, emergency charging a depleted battery is best done from another EV. We need more EVs with good V2L capability. Good V2L means 240V, not paltry 120. Sadly, Tesla won’t have V2L until CT introduction which keeps getting delayed. New Ford Lightning may offer a great solution.
So basically for 3600 bucks you'd carry this around so you can put 12 miles more of range in your car in 3 hours which range you'd have if you weren't pulling this around. Lol. Nope.
I would agree with that Randy. The bulk charging would be lower down, putting the top end charge in is the slowest and probably less efficient overall, it's probably why most manufacturers state the fast charge times to 80%.
$3,600 to add the equivalent of 1/3 of 1 gallon of gas to your car? You’re better off just paying for a tow truck to get your EV to a charging station. And calling a tow truck would be faster than waiting for 2.6 hours to get towed 12 miles
I think with the price tag, I’d rather just plug in at a public charger earlier and plan accordingly. I was considering getting a solar setup but the cost per kWh over its possible useful life. Hopefully the technology becomes more mainstream and someday we can setup solar charging for a reasonable price.
Not worth it at all. 3%, 12 miles or 3.6 kw on battery packs in a lot of EVs that have near 100kw battery packs? The added weight from this thing would probably cost you 12 miles of range or more on a road trip. The only thing this is good for, at least for EVs as this is great for home use and powering other items, is if you run out of charge 10 miles or less from a charger and a friend/family can drive up to you and give you this to get that last little bit of range. When these things can bring in 10%-25% of battery, without adding so much extra weight that you lose that range anyway, then these will become something truly worth having for EVs.
Be careful with ecoflow when it comes to monitoring your system. You cant just connected to Bluetooth out of the box, you have to create an account online which they may be tracking your use.
It’s important to note that as good as Eco Flow products are the quality comes at a steep price. 3,600 for 1 Delta Pro let alone the solar, second unit for home back up and smart panel that requires an electrician to install. So maybe 12k all in.
I love your reviews. This might be something one would be as a house back-up/camping power source, but pure physics dictate it's not practical for just charging evs.
Tom, the best of the best in BEV reviews and chargers and EVSE!!! Tom cuts through the BS and gives us the real beef. However, I think most will pass on a 3.7 kWh $3,600 heavy jump box and power bank. There’s alternatives .
I have a smaller, lighter, and cheaper unit from another brand that will work to put a few miles into my car, but I am not interested in the miles the battery can put into my car. Rather what I like is when paired with some solar panels these solar generators can power your campsite and put a few miles into your car each day. If you aren't just leaving your car at the campsite all day, it is always going to be better to plug it in at some public charger when you are out and about. My attraction to these is that is a battery and inverter and everything packaged up in one unit, so I can put it in my travel trailer, or in the house in case of power outage. I have a smaller one for tent camping and recharging my ebikes, although the larger one is better for lots of ebike charging. If I am bike camping, the 7 pound unit makes more sense than the 60 pound unit.
I have the Delta Pro and am using it to power my Sprinter. Unfortunately, I discovered after I purchased the Xtreme EV adapter, that it comes with NO cable to connect to an EV charging station. My local dealership said "well, just use the cable that comes with your vehicle". (The Netherlands leads the world in EV vehicle use.) It took some explaining to make them understand that I am using the EcoFlow to power the electricity in the camper van - and it is not an EV vehicle. NOWHERE on the Ecoflow site does it say anything about the need to purchase an additional cable on top of the EV adapter. Not even sure which one I need. Does Ecoflow assume everyone using the Delta Pro is already using an EV vehicle? That doesn't seem to fit their use case. A reasonable cable to use with the Delta Pro EV adapter and most charging stations would be a welcome addition - on a marketing level, some warning of this would be nice.
Tom, some of the disadvantages of the Ecoflow can be lessened with a change in equipment type/brand. The recent Pecron E3000 is only 55 pounds, and currently only $1899, no sales tax collected, with a dolly and RV "dog-bone" included, at 3108 watt-hours. (And in tests by the TH-camr Professor Hobo, it appears under-rated, as it delivers 95% of the rated energy capacity as A.C. power.) The reason it is so much lighter is that it is made with high-grade EV batteries, presumably NMC, rather than an iron-based (LFP) chemistry (which reduces lifetime total charge cycles, but reduces the weight dramatically.) While this unit will not charge an EV quite as quickly in an emergency situation, and is not compatible with being recharged at an EV charger, having it onboard as an "electronic spare-can-of-gas" is quite a bit more practical in terms of price and weight... (Twelve miles of added range for our Model Y may not seem like much, until you potentially have to walk it...)
Hey Tom, great review! So, I'm a Locksmith in Wyoming. I have one of these in my work van, it's hardwired to the charging system - which is a measly 8 amps. But, that's the only bad. I have my machines, and a large laser printer. It sucks up whatever I throw at it, and it's able to provide more. I'm going to add a small refrigerator when I can make space for it.
It was a good video but it would really help if we knew why the charge units won’t charge the ECO system. This failure casts a doubt on any charger being used for the system.
I would buy it for house + Home EV charger backup as battery + solar you can take with you if you move or use with RV then reconnect. Use cases of putting it in the car seem very limited with the growing infrastructure plus my EVSE w/ extension cord giving L1 almost everywhere.
Thanks for making this video - living in a earthquake area my thought was if I buy a EV and for whatever reason we lose power for a few days or maybe rolling blackouts due to heat waves.. this would be a good help for electric blankets.. charging devices...cooking food... AND give you a good 10 miles on your car (or without heat in the house you could sleep in your car) if you needed to run to the grocery store nearby - and with a solar panel you could just trickle charge the thing- but yeah that price point... ugh that's some $$$ I would never put it in the trunk but... for the house and a EV not a bad idea..... anyway thank you for the review!
I think they've fixed the grounding issue, I charge my bz with it every sunny day. I have both spare batteries, and get 8-10% with 1200 solar panels. I'm still working on the perfect timing of it. I've tried a few chargers in town and none would charge the EF, but haven't tried a charge point.
That was an excellent non biased review in my opinion! The facts were presented, do what you will with the facts! Thanks for bringing this technology to our attention Tom! I would like to know how two of these would compare to a generac for home back up power.
Good review Tom, however you missed one important aspect. The Delta Pro is not sold with 240 V outlets in the US. That large outlet is a NEMA TT-30 120 V. The unit is sold with 240 V outlets only in international markets.
I was stuck for 3 hrs in a forest fire basically at a stand still on the freeway. You can't plan for everything. Luckily I was in a gas car with a full tank but we had no a/c and it was over 100 degrees with a 5 yr old in the back not a fun time to not be able to roll the windows down😢. I'm thinking of going electric now. I think it is a good idea to at least have something to give you some extra miles on hand if need be. Also don't camp in fire territory and have a car with no a/c sometimes you just gotta live and learn I definitely did💯
Checking the product specifications, greater than 32 amp at 220/240 is too much. You probably could set your other smart chargers to lower output amps and be fine.
@@sciencedadusa4706 An EVSE is not a charger. The vehicle (or EcoFlow in this case) will only consume what it wants and is capable of - up to the max advertised of the EVSE.
Thanks for tackling this one Tom. I have installed a lot of these types of batteries as home backup out in California (wildfire power shut downs). Haven't tried to charge my Bolt with mine yet though.
Could I plug this neutral bonding grounding plug into the Vehicle-to-load plug on my Kia EV6 so that I can charge my Chrysler Pacifica Plugin Hybrid from the EV6’s battery? I tried plugging my Pacifica into my EB six and the charger was showing a ground fault. I don’t want to break anything!!
Tom, I love you man you’re one of the best on TH-cam. But $12,000? This one almost $3700? Do you know how many tow trucks I can pay with $3700? Until these become more affordable this really isn’t an option. I did find out that my 2022 Tesla model Y performance will go at least 5 1/2 miles after hitting 0% state of charge. I hope I never do that again.
You may be able to use your high frequency inverter to charge your EV now, but it's just a matter of time before the MOSFETs or IGBTs in your inverter fail and you can kiss your EV's onboard charger goodbye. A much better and safer choice if you want to charge your EV with solar is to use an inverter or power station that uses low frequency, transformer based technology in its design. Low frequency inverters can handle high surge loads for at least 3x their continuous rated capacity and they can do this repeatedly, without sustaining damages to their MOSFET transistors, for minutes, rather than the milliseconds that a high frequency inverter offers. And because low frequency inverters use a transformer, they provide galvanic isolation which protects your EV's charger. That's why the big name brand inverter manufacturers like Schneider Electric, Outback Power, Sigineer Power, Magnum Energy and Victron Energy and others, all use a low frequency topology in their design.
No it's not. Without an output transformer to provide galvanic isolation between that portable, high frequency, transformerless inverter's DC rail and its AC output, during a failure of this inverter's control circuitry, you are at high risk of passing high amperage DC current through to your Leaf's onboard charger. This can not only damage it, but will also void your Leaf's warranty. You may be able to charge your EV now, but one day, you're inverter will fail as they all do, and you will probably smoke your EV's charger. A much better way to charge your EV off grid, is to use a low frequency, transformer based inverter.
I think this is not the ideal use case for EFDP. Get 3 x 450W Solar panels and connect them to EFDP and use it as a buffer and have it charge the BEV or PHEV at 1,2 kW the whole day for "free". Could be an emergency solution for the cottage and home. You could get 10+ kWh in a good day. For example this could be a great way to charge the new Prius Prime 13,4 kWh battery, if you don't have a permanent solar system or need a portable system
Can you try to get an Eco Flow Smart Home Panel and / or Smart Generator for a system wide review? My Generator just came in after a month of back order, waiting on the Panel to be available b4 pulling the trigger on the Delta Pro to complete the package... Now I'm worried bc I have a freshly installed Chargepoint Flex... Maybe if you turn the amps down in the app?
Thanks for review. Do you know of any other portable power bank that charges from CCS or J1772 or NACS level 2 or 3, or even that recharges quickly? Thank you.
There is some incorrect information so let me help you. 1. You need to use the 30amp port for 3600w output 2. This only outputs 120v not 240v 3. You can fully deplete the unit in 1hr or less for that same amount of range with the adaptor which is common and can be purchased locally otherwise you're limited to 20amps. 4. You don't need a specific kind of adaptor just the grounding plug and the appropriate connection
Thanks Tom. Can you plug your car in and at the same time the solar panel? That would be handy if you are going to park for the day anyway and have the ability to get a bit more power into the car.
This is what I wanna see. If a solar panel of about 350/400 on a roof rack of a car and this in the trunk. Parked & trickle charging your car while your on your work shift.
There are really two different subjects here. One is the merits of this particular product, and Tom did well in covering those. The other topic is what is a purpose for this product that makes sense. I can't see any sense in carrying this around as some kind of electric jerry jug equivalent. I can't see that as anything but absurd. OTOH if you are going on some kind of camping trip and know you will need auxiliary power. If you expect a long stay and bring along some oslar panels, so omuch the better. OTO-OH if you have something like a CyberTruck that is equipped for that purpose from the start, then this device becomes redundant.
Can’t you plug your level 2 charger into that 220-looking socket in the front, and then plug the J1772 into your car? That way, with 2 of these, I could charge my phev completely with solar assuming I could get enough sun in a day.
He answered most of my questions. But the one I wanted to know after that was can you charge it from a Tesla charging station. He does tell you how to do it though. But doesn't confirm that it works.
Why not buy a 50 amp 240v portable generator at Costco and a 50 amp ev charger and keep in the pickup when traveling long distances where dc fast charger Aren’t available. $1500 😅
5:11 are these batteries eligible for tax credits? South Carolina is eligible for 25% tax credit on solar panel system as well as powerwalls (when bought in combination of atleast one solar panel) on top of federal 30% (26% formerly) tax credit. If I buy these batteries to pair them to my solar panels that are already installed..!
Tom I've been looking at this 120 volt/240 volt portable power station for a couple months now. I'm glad you did a review on it. I have the chargepoint home flex charger that I would plan on charging it with in my garage. well as you shown it doesn't work on the chargepoint home flex. they need to fix this problem before I buy it. Thanks for the review big time you just saved me a lot of grief.
Not 240v. The large outlet is a NEMA TT-30R. It’s labeled 125v and the website states it’s not 240v also.
I know it’s large like a 240 V outlet but it is a high power 120 V outlet at 30 A.
I think you can try tell them that in their customer service. They respond fast.
my guess would be is that its because both EVSE/wall chargers and the ecoflow unit both have GFCI, which causes problems like being described. If thats the case there's no fixing, as most EV EVSE/wall chargers at 240v require GFCI for housing code and GFCI is built in to the chargers. I'd guesstimate that the ecoflow unit comes standard with GFCI as well.
So far these units have been built for the market over sea and the RV markets in their rush to bigger and more powerful units unless you buy 2 unit's there is still non built for the home owner and yet all they need to do is add a second inverter that's tied to the first for 220 volt the technology is there after all if they can tie 2 units together for 220 110 volts than it's simpler to do it all in one unit we dont need 2 sets of USB ports or 2 sets of regulated 12 volt outlets dont need 2 sets of chargers ac dc or solar as for batteries we can buy additional battery storage unit's in fact all we need for household solar power is a modular unit that starts with the batteries charge controllers and the inverter it could have a port to add a regulated 12 volt circuitry and another one for adding USB after all if using it for either household solar or emergency power supply it's not practical to use it in the kitchen might be more practical in the garage or garden shed and you probably won't want to leave your phone in either place or set up your other devices and use them there so the USB charger or 12 volt regulated circuitry is probably not going to be useful so the money for these is better used to buy an extra battery also a 110 220 volts unit with an extra battery unit would probably charge an EV faster on 220 and if one battery gives an additional 12 miles of range since the additional battery is usually a bigger capacity since it just a battery should give you double if not triple the range the question than becomes would it be able to be done the same as an propane vehicle you can put your cheater tank on wait a half hour or more for the fuel to tranfer then unhook and go or like I did with mine one was a van I put a hole in the side close to the filling port I'd put my hose on through the hole turn on the valve on the cheater hop in the driver's seat and drive it would tranfer fuel as I drove and it would empty out my30 pound cheater heater for my 2nd one an old handy bus I tied the tank close to the window and opened it up dropped the hose out the window and attach it to my tank filler so the question then becomes can you hook up the ecoflow be hooked up to charge the EV while you drive to the nearest charging station in which case the honking long hook up handle would have to be modified to make them keep closer to the car just thinking I'm not one to wait for propane to tranfer much less 2 hrs for power to tranfer so check it out put the unit in the trunk or back of the car run the cord out the window and plug in the Tesla and see if it'll drive and at what speed or do you have to wait a while before you drive and if Tesla is to smart to do it are there other EV that can
@@jasminekim3111 Seems like the Delta Pro is the best solar generator that money can buy.
After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.
In all honesty, that Delta Pro is the best solar generator I have ever come across.
Thank you for always having integrity and honesty with your viewers. I was excited to see this as a potential for someone who might purchase this as a alternative power source in the need of a backup for their home. However, having so many issues and additional plugs that would need to be purchased, I don't know if this would be the correct solution for someone who owns an EV. I would probably recommend waiting for a V2G wall unit or a whole house battery by Tesla.
This solar generator is really awesome. It has lots of applications and uses.
You wouldn’t call a gas can a gas generator, would you? I’ve seen them called (ESS, energy storage solution by utilities and solar companies). Or a battery backup that of course is charged.
Just FYI, a single Delta Pro can only produce 120v using the 30A NEMA TT-30R outlet. To generate 240v, you need to use two Delta Pros and their double voltage hub.
Always appreciate your views because you are sensible and informative.
Spark charge doesn't sell to individuals I think... plus as a apartment renter I like the dual function as a home battery. 2 things I wanted to see. 240V charging and daisy chaining 240V units to provide a solution to apartment renters.
I tossed the delta pro in my pickup and it works great on the job site
Great review! Check your Amazon link to the unit as it goes to the add on battery pack and not the full unit.
Thanks - I fixed that
With the announcement of the new Mercedes E-sprinter, I am deff stocking up on two of these to use as off grid vanlife charging!!
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I noticed when you attempted to charge the Eco Flow from the Juice Box and the second wall charger you had the ground fault adapter installed. When you charged the Eco Flow using the third wall charger the ground fault adapter was removed and charging started.
I do really love me EF Delta pro, so much so, that I purchased the add on battery this year. So I have 7.2kW total. Would I use it as an emergency charger for my Lightning? God no. I'd get maybe 14 miles? But...I keep this in my travel trailer and use it to power everything in the trailer for a week or more. It's really just an amazing solution. But thank god I don't have to carry it around.
Very good review!
It is good for an emergency use battery.
Hey Tom. I live your videos and reviews! I searched your channel and couldn't find anything with the Harley Davidson LiveWire. I just got one and it's amazing. I've seen videos that just give a timer for DC fast charging for it, but I was looking for one of your graphs that would show the charge rate at different SOC. Do you have plans do a LiveWire charging video? Also I'm assuming with an adapter I can use my Tesla Wall Connector to charge the LiveWire?
I’m quite confident that the Harley Davidson Livewire will work with the Tesla Wall Connector when using a TeslaTap adapter, although I have read that for North American models, 240 Volt charging the Livewire is not really faster than 120 Volt charging.
Doesn't charging slow down over 80%? I wonder if the unit would have charged faster and added more miles if you had started with a charge level of 30% or less, which is more realistically when someone would resort to a portable charger?
A Tesla (or just about any EV out there) charges much, much faster than the 1400 watts that a Tesla mobile connector can put out when connected to 120V. The Model 3 doesn’t slow down to that point until about 98-99%. The high-ish state of charge definitely did not make any difference to the charging speed in this case.
This adds another one to the list of what the Delta Pro can do.
@@ouch1011 sorry, I don't believe that. I think this would have charged much better at 0 to 10%. This power unit is meant to be a replacement for a gas can. No one needs this at 80% they need it at 0 to 10%. At 80% it probably needs more power to overcome the capacity issues. I feel this wasn't a fair test base on this because it wasn't a real-life use of this unit. Not that this is a good solution to running out of electricity, because the weight of this thing would shorten your
range anyway.
@@grandetaco4416 totally agree, this 80% charging up is not a realistic test, should be simulating a real situation when you had to resort to a portal charger, which means your EV got no charge left.
Thanks tom for another great video.
Hello Tom,
First, I think you do a great job with your videos and your appearances with Alex.
My R1S delivery window is the end of this year. I'm thinking about a Rivian wall charger. However, my garage is a couple hundred feet from my condo and there is no WiFi at the garage.
1. Is there anyway I can get OTA updates for the charger?
2. Is the Rivian the best charger for the R1S?
Thank you for your assistance,
Tom
A point to point wireless connection may be an option, if you can see your condo from your garage wall and vice-versa.
Do you think if you wanted an EV but live in an apt this would be a good option to charge power bank during day and then your car at night on a daily basis?
how much faster to fill up the ecoflow with ev charging vs 120 v?
Is the EcoFlow Delta Pro EV input voltage is 110V~240V？
Rather than recharge the EV when you are stationary can u plug this in on a constant basis so you can increase your range while driving?
Am I correct in understanding the battery recharge isn't linear, meaning you're likely to get more miles (and %) out of the pack if the car is at a lower % when you start?
I do not understand why, will all your resources, that you don't have the adapter to charge level 2 for this video?????
Bigger version of charged and/or csn be charged battery pack. How heavy is this
What happens if I leave this in the trunk and my car gets heated in sun for 100+ degrees? Would it requires cooling and is it not a fire Hazzard risk?
Great video!
I want to ask a consciously particular question, I want to understand if anyone has tried to charge the Delta Pro with from Nissan Leaf to Delta Pro using the input charge EcoFlow EV X-Stream Adapter.
Cioè da Nissan Leaf con un cavo da Tipo 1 a Tipo 2 (e con adattatore da Tipo 2 a Tipo 1) con adattatore EcoFlow EV X-Stream (DELTA Pro) per caricare la Delta Pro con la batteria della Nissan Leaf.
Thanks for any reply
I really don't mind having the Delta Pro in my garage ready to power anything.
Hi, will it charge the car faster if you combine 2 eco flow delta pro together
Can you charge it at a Tesla Supercharger?
You forgot to mention it take hours and hours and hours to charge it via a charging station…should be great too as you sit there charging your eco while other EV’s wait on you…
It’s not that important to be able to charge up with a ev charger unless someone was in a hurry since you could just plug into a 120v outlet
I don't see any other power station that is better than the Delta Pro.
I know you didnt lift that alone on that desk
The battery tech is not there yet. Gonna need at least 10 kwh, bring the weight down to 50 pounds and cost less than $1,000 for this to be a feasible portable solution.
Anyone who follows Tom knows he's going to shoot us straight on a product review. Regardless of how he got ahold of the product in question.
Thank you. I won't ever change.
tl;dr is the delta pro is essentially useless for recharging even the smallest tesla cars.
Sorry, free isn't looked at as unbiased. If a manufacturer sends an Item to be reviewed and returned that is a bit better, but the best way is to purchase it off the shelf so no manufacturer can alter a product to be better than what is delivered to the final consumer. JMHO
That's 12 miles of range in ideal conditions (flat level ground). If you have any hills to contend with you might only get 3-4 miles of usable range. 🫤
3.5 kWh will get me at least 10 miles unless I was driving up a mountain and gaining more than 1,000ft of elevation
I think we're missing the main point here - you could connect a couple solar panels to this unit and use it to top your car back up in the event of a power outage. This would enable you to run errands/buy groceries which may only use a couple percent depending on where you live - and then use this to replenish. 1000-2000w worth of panels and 6 hrs of sun plus the full 3 kw battery could make a more of a significant impact.
Do the math @thatton, you will need to go from 100 to 0 at least 33 times to come close to filling a Model 3. 100 model 3 fills or 3300 cycles will reduce the battery to 80% of its capacity and typically much lower since you may be using fast charging to begin with. So almost rendering the Ecoflow delta pro useless for EV charging ( Weight to power ratio)
Let’s say you live 10 minutes from a grocery store…. All you would need is perhaps 3-4% battery life from a Model 3 to go pick up needed supplies/medicine in the event of an extended power outage. In such extenuating circumstances- this could be a tiny insurance policy for local errands.
I wonder if the reason the Enel X and Chargepoint EVSE didn't work is because they are 40amp? Maybe the Delta Pro can't negotiate down to 32Amp properly (hopefully fixed in a software update.)
I agree I hope they can fix it in software but it may be a hardware issue. There is no negotiation down to an amperage in J1772. It’s simply that the charger notifies the vehicle how much possible power it can pull and the vehicle takes up to that amount. There is actually no restriction that the vehicle obey this however generally a circuit breaker would blow if you exceeded it.
It only charges at 3400W from the J-1772, just under 15A, so that won't be it.
This is one awesome power station. I have been using this to power my off grid cabin.
Great review Tom - EV charging, 2 hours, 12 miles. Can the Ecoflow charge an EV while it's getting charged from solar? If it can and someone only averages 35 miles a day, this off grid solution might be all they need. What do you think?
I have an Ecoflow looking at using two of them to charge an e transit at 240v. It can charge while it’s getting charged from the sun. Each unit can have up to 1600 watts of solar I believe so two would be 3200w but I think closer to 8kw solar input would be better for charging ev depending on model and mileage requirements. The ultra is coming out this week and can have more solar but think it’s going to cost at least around 4 grand plus cost of panels. I like the idea of just using dc solar to a dc car charger and save on the cost and components of the non vehicle battery and inverter but if can’t find a setup like that hope can power off grid with either two pro or one ultra from Ecoflow and as much panels as can handle. So far very pleased with the Ecoflow pro from Costco. Definitely can charge an ev but the mileage would vary on model, solar input capacity etc
One thing that is confusing, and I think it got Tom as well. A simple 240V adapter plug will not make this unit supply 240V and charge your EVSE at a level 2 rate. The big socket on the unit is a 30A 120V outlet. For 240V, you need 2 of these monster batteries AND a special 240V cable (named Double Voltage hub) that takes the two 120V units and provides 240V L14-30 twist lock socket. Yikes! Really just a costly level 1 solution, and even more costly for level 2.
Yes, you are correct. I was mistaken. You need to pair this with a second battery to deliver 240 volts.
This wasn't made at aim towards as ev gas can haha. It's for home backup, electric, rv camping, offgrid haha. Yes/no it may work in a pinch. The ev plug on this is for you to be able to go to a ev station to charge it as one option of charging.
Hi Bill, If someone gets the 2 * EF Pros and the 240v hub, what connector / adapter can be used to do level 2 charging ? ( I heard about bonded cable (NEMA 14-50) but there is nothing on-line)
@@golan555 For most EVSE's, you would need something that bonds the Neutral and Ground at the EcoFlow. It doesn't do that, and that is what some EVSE's need to see in order to not indicate a fault. Some may not need this though - you'd have to test with your particular EVSE (the Tesla ones do need this). This is most easily accomplished with plugging something into either of the 120V outlets on the 240V adapter. Search for 'generator bonding plug'. Range from $5 - $15, or you can make your own with a plug (connect neutral and ground with a wire).
The Delta Pro is a good battery but you did not have solar panels to generate electricity you did not give this experiment the best opportunity charge the car you should have hooked up the solar panels to the Delta Pro and then seeing how long would it take to charge a Tesla or you could have bought the Delta fuel generator and put gasoline in it and put it in the back of the trunk and see how long that took charge the Tesla
I believe another youtuber, Will Prowes, messed up the DC charging module inside his eco flow by adding the grounding plug and charging his Tesla. In his video he says eco flow does not recommend charging an EV since you have to add the grounding plug. His inverter still worked but the issue with bonding fried his DC charging ability so he can not charge it from solar.
Thanks for the very informative review. This battery back-up unit is more suited to camping than EV emergency charging. Due to battery weight, emergency charging a depleted battery is best done from another EV. We need more EVs with good V2L capability. Good V2L means 240V, not paltry 120. Sadly, Tesla won’t have V2L until CT introduction which keeps getting delayed. New Ford Lightning may offer a great solution.
So basically for 3600 bucks you'd carry this around so you can put 12 miles more of range in your car in 3 hours which range you'd have if you weren't pulling this around. Lol. Nope.
I think that you could try this when the car is at a lower percentage charge like maybe 42% or 20 % and see if you get more miles?
I would agree with that Randy. The bulk charging would be lower down, putting the top end charge in is the slowest and probably less efficient overall, it's probably why most manufacturers state the fast charge times to 80%.
One, it doesn't take 3600W to charge an EV. Two, $3700 is way overpriced. Third, 90 lbs. is not considered very "portable".
$2700 for 3% just doesnt cut it for me.
His link is to the spare battery.. NOT the eco flow pro which is $3600. Ha
@@djryan8944 I updated that!
I do like what I am seeing with the Delta Pro and it does seems the applications are endless.
Great review. EVs with smaller batteries than the Tesla would gain a larger percentage of total charge.
$3,600 to add the equivalent of 1/3 of 1 gallon of gas to your car? You’re better off just paying for a tow truck to get your EV to a charging station. And calling a tow truck would be faster than waiting for 2.6 hours to get towed 12 miles
I think with the price tag, I’d rather just plug in at a public charger earlier and plan accordingly. I was considering getting a solar setup but the cost per kWh over its possible useful life. Hopefully the technology becomes more mainstream and someday we can setup solar charging for a reasonable price.
Not worth it at all. 3%, 12 miles or 3.6 kw on battery packs in a lot of EVs that have near 100kw battery packs? The added weight from this thing would probably cost you 12 miles of range or more on a road trip. The only thing this is good for, at least for EVs as this is great for home use and powering other items, is if you run out of charge 10 miles or less from a charger and a friend/family can drive up to you and give you this to get that last little bit of range. When these things can bring in 10%-25% of battery, without adding so much extra weight that you lose that range anyway, then these will become something truly worth having for EVs.
12 miles after 2.5 hrs, $3600, 100 lbs weight, not worth it. Good idea but needs improvement. At least the number of miles added needs to be 50 or so.
Be careful with ecoflow when it comes to monitoring your system. You cant just connected to Bluetooth out of the box, you have to create an account online which they may be tracking your use.
It’s important to note that as good as Eco Flow products are the quality comes at a steep price. 3,600 for 1 Delta Pro let alone the solar, second unit for home back up and smart panel that requires an electrician to install. So maybe 12k all in.
But their products worth it
$1000 per kWh lol 🤣
I love your reviews. This might be something one would be as a house back-up/camping power source, but pure physics dictate it's not practical for just charging evs.
Tom, the best of the best in BEV reviews and chargers and EVSE!!! Tom cuts through the BS and gives us the real beef.
However, I think most will pass on a 3.7 kWh $3,600 heavy jump box and power bank. There’s alternatives .
I have a smaller, lighter, and cheaper unit from another brand that will work to put a few miles into my car, but I am not interested in the miles the battery can put into my car. Rather what I like is when paired with some solar panels these solar generators can power your campsite and put a few miles into your car each day. If you aren't just leaving your car at the campsite all day, it is always going to be better to plug it in at some public charger when you are out and about.
My attraction to these is that is a battery and inverter and everything packaged up in one unit, so I can put it in my travel trailer, or in the house in case of power outage. I have a smaller one for tent camping and recharging my ebikes, although the larger one is better for lots of ebike charging. If I am bike camping, the 7 pound unit makes more sense than the 60 pound unit.
I have the Delta Pro and am using it to power my Sprinter. Unfortunately, I discovered after I purchased the Xtreme EV adapter, that it comes with NO cable to connect to an EV charging station. My local dealership said "well, just use the cable that comes with your vehicle". (The Netherlands leads the world in EV vehicle use.) It took some explaining to make them understand that I am using the EcoFlow to power the electricity in the camper van - and it is not an EV vehicle. NOWHERE on the Ecoflow site does it say anything about the need to purchase an additional cable on top of the EV adapter. Not even sure which one I need. Does Ecoflow assume everyone using the Delta Pro is already using an EV vehicle? That doesn't seem to fit their use case. A reasonable cable to use with the Delta Pro EV adapter and most charging stations would be a welcome addition - on a marketing level, some warning of this would be nice.
Tom, some of the disadvantages of the Ecoflow can be lessened with a change in equipment type/brand. The recent Pecron E3000 is only 55 pounds, and currently only $1899, no sales tax collected, with a dolly and RV "dog-bone" included, at 3108 watt-hours. (And in tests by the TH-camr Professor Hobo, it appears under-rated, as it delivers 95% of the rated energy capacity as A.C. power.) The reason it is so much lighter is that it is made with high-grade EV batteries, presumably NMC, rather than an iron-based (LFP) chemistry (which reduces lifetime total charge cycles, but reduces the weight dramatically.)
While this unit will not charge an EV quite as quickly in an emergency situation, and is not compatible with being recharged at an EV charger, having it onboard as an "electronic spare-can-of-gas" is quite a bit more practical in terms of price and weight...
(Twelve miles of added range for our Model Y may not seem like much, until you potentially have to walk it...)
Range anxiety must suck. I just go to the gas station when im out of EV juice lol.
1000 cycles is the deal breaker, I rather spend double and get the Delta pro and get 3500 cycles.
Hey Tom, great review! So, I'm a Locksmith in Wyoming. I have one of these in my work van, it's hardwired to the charging system - which is a measly 8 amps. But, that's the only bad. I have my machines, and a large laser printer. It sucks up whatever I throw at it, and it's able to provide more. I'm going to add a small refrigerator when I can make space for it.
Awesome ! can you please tell me how to hardwire in my work sprinter van to the charging system? Thank you!
How much will EV range be affected by the 100 lbs of extra weight?
Immeasurable
Less than a second passenger. It’s 100lbs on a 2 ton vehicle.
Yes but don’t make sense, why would you wait couple hours waiting for your 110v charging. Nice video honest review thanks!
I wonder if both the ecoflow unit and wall EVSE/charger unit both have GFCI hence leading to the constant tripping?
4 eco flow delta pro and 6 EcoFlow delta pro Smart Extra Battery 25,8 (KWH and great 👍
Power whole house (400W solar 4 panels EcoFlow test it out
That is truly one impressive solar generator.
Cool product, and it’s been reviewed by most of your TH-cam friends, but glad to see YOUR take!
Sound good got a van with a 75kwh battery which seems to run for ever between charges.but this is great idea to work with solar panels on van roof
To bad you can’t plug it into the f150 240v plug and have bi- directional charging while driving. (Kind of like a range extender)
It was a good video but it would really help if we knew why the charge units won’t charge the ECO system. This failure casts a doubt on any charger being used for the system.
I would buy it for house + Home EV charger backup as battery + solar you can take with you if you move or use with RV then reconnect. Use cases of putting it in the car seem very limited with the growing infrastructure plus my EVSE w/ extension cord giving L1 almost everywhere.
Thanks for making this video - living in a earthquake area my thought was if I buy a EV and for whatever reason we lose power for a few days or maybe rolling blackouts due to heat waves.. this would be a good help for electric blankets.. charging devices...cooking food... AND give you a good 10 miles on your car (or without heat in the house you could sleep in your car) if you needed to run to the grocery store nearby - and with a solar panel you could just trickle charge the thing- but yeah that price point... ugh that's some $$$ I would never put it in the trunk but... for the house and a EV not a bad idea..... anyway thank you for the review!
I think they've fixed the grounding issue, I charge my bz with it every sunny day. I have both spare batteries, and get 8-10% with 1200 solar panels. I'm still working on the perfect timing of it. I've tried a few chargers in town and none would charge the EF, but haven't tried a charge point.
That was an excellent non biased review in my opinion! The facts were presented, do what you will with the facts! Thanks for bringing this technology to our attention Tom! I would like to know how two of these would compare to a generac for home back up power.
Good review Tom, however you missed one important aspect. The Delta Pro is not sold with 240 V outlets in the US. That large outlet is a NEMA TT-30 120 V. The unit is sold with 240 V outlets only in international markets.
Ouch. Good to know but darn I wanted 240.
This Delta Pro power station is so powerful. I am loving it.
I was stuck for 3 hrs in a forest fire basically at a stand still on the freeway. You can't plan for everything. Luckily I was in a gas car with a full tank but we had no a/c and it was over 100 degrees with a 5 yr old in the back not a fun time to not be able to roll the windows down😢. I'm thinking of going electric now. I think it is a good idea to at least have something to give you some extra miles on hand if need be. Also don't camp in fire territory and have a car with no a/c sometimes you just gotta live and learn I definitely did💯
Great overview Tom, did you check with the manufacturer as to be why some of your home chargers didn't work?
Checking the product specifications, greater than 32 amp at 220/240 is too much. You probably could set your other smart chargers to lower output amps and be fine.
@@sciencedadusa4706 An EVSE is not a charger. The vehicle (or EcoFlow in this case) will only consume what it wants and is capable of - up to the max advertised of the EVSE.
Thanks for tackling this one Tom. I have installed a lot of these types of batteries as home backup out in California (wildfire power shut downs).
Haven't tried to charge my Bolt with mine yet though.
Could I plug this neutral bonding grounding plug into the Vehicle-to-load plug on my Kia EV6 so that I can charge my Chrysler Pacifica Plugin Hybrid from the EV6’s battery? I tried plugging my Pacifica into my EB six and the charger was showing a ground fault. I don’t want to break anything!!
Tom, I love you man you’re one of the best on TH-cam. But $12,000? This one almost $3700? Do you know how many tow trucks I can pay with $3700? Until these become more affordable this really isn’t an option. I did find out that my 2022 Tesla model Y performance will go at least 5 1/2 miles after hitting 0% state of charge. I hope I never do that again.
You may be able to use your high frequency inverter to charge your EV now, but it's just a matter of time before the MOSFETs or IGBTs in your inverter fail and you can kiss your EV's onboard charger goodbye. A much better and safer choice if you want to charge your EV with solar is to use an inverter or power station that uses low frequency, transformer based technology in its design. Low frequency inverters can handle high surge loads for at least 3x their continuous rated capacity and they can do this repeatedly, without sustaining damages to their MOSFET transistors, for minutes, rather than the milliseconds that a high frequency inverter offers. And because low frequency inverters use a transformer, they provide galvanic isolation which protects your EV's charger. That's why the big name brand inverter manufacturers like Schneider Electric, Outback Power, Sigineer Power, Magnum Energy and Victron Energy and others, all use a low frequency topology in their design.
No it's not. Without an output transformer to provide galvanic isolation between that portable, high frequency, transformerless inverter's DC rail and its AC output, during a failure of this inverter's control circuitry, you are at high risk of passing high amperage DC current through to your Leaf's onboard charger. This can not only damage it, but will also void your Leaf's warranty. You may be able to charge your EV now, but one day, you're inverter will fail as they all do, and you will probably smoke your EV's charger. A much better way to charge your EV off grid, is to use a low frequency, transformer based inverter.
I think this is not the ideal use case for EFDP. Get 3 x 450W Solar panels and connect them to EFDP and use it as a buffer and have it charge the BEV or PHEV at 1,2 kW the whole day for "free". Could be an emergency solution for the cottage and home. You could get 10+ kWh in a good day. For example this could be a great way to charge the new Prius Prime 13,4 kWh battery, if you don't have a permanent solar system or need a portable system
Can you try to get an Eco Flow Smart Home Panel and / or Smart Generator for a system wide review?
My Generator just came in after a month of back order, waiting on the Panel to be available b4 pulling the trigger on the Delta Pro to complete the package...
Now I'm worried bc I have a freshly installed Chargepoint Flex... Maybe if you turn the amps down in the app?
Thanks for review. Do you know of any other portable power bank that charges from CCS or J1772 or NACS level 2 or 3, or even that recharges quickly? Thank you.
There is some incorrect information so let me help you.
1. You need to use the 30amp port for 3600w output
2. This only outputs 120v not 240v
3. You can fully deplete the unit in 1hr or less for that same amount of range with the adaptor which is common and can be purchased locally otherwise you're limited to 20amps.
4. You don't need a specific kind of adaptor just the grounding plug and the appropriate connection
Thanks Tom. Can you plug your car in and at the same time the solar panel? That would be handy if you are going to park for the day anyway and have the ability to get a bit more power into the car.
This is what I wanna see. If a solar panel of about 350/400 on a roof rack of a car and this in the trunk. Parked & trickle charging your car while your on your work shift.
There are really two different subjects here. One is the merits of this particular product, and Tom did well in covering those. The other topic is what is a purpose for this product that makes sense. I can't see any sense in carrying this around as some kind of electric jerry jug equivalent. I can't see that as anything but absurd. OTOH if you are going on some kind of camping trip and know you will need auxiliary power. If you expect a long stay and bring along some oslar panels, so omuch the better. OTO-OH if you have something like a CyberTruck that is equipped for that purpose from the start, then this device becomes redundant.
Can’t you plug your level 2 charger into that 220-looking socket in the front, and then plug the J1772 into your car? That way, with 2 of these, I could charge my phev completely with solar assuming I could get enough sun in a day.
Ok, That sucked. Thanks for your honesty.
Hello, my EcoFlow Delta 2 weighs just 27lbs and has about a KW of power. I get about 3-4 miles per kw. That will get you to a regular EV charger.
He answered most of my questions. But the one I wanted to know after that was can you charge it from a Tesla charging station. He does tell you how to do it though. But doesn't confirm that it works.
BMW i3 Rex sports have a working petrol generator which charges in running
I am using it it for 3 years with no issues at all and no range anxiety
Why not buy a 50 amp 240v portable generator at Costco and a 50 amp ev charger and keep in the pickup when traveling long distances where dc fast charger Aren’t available. $1500 😅
5:11 are these batteries eligible for tax credits?
South Carolina is eligible for 25% tax credit on solar panel system as well as powerwalls (when bought in combination of atleast one solar panel) on top of federal 30% (26% formerly) tax credit.
If I buy these batteries to pair them to my solar panels that are already installed..!