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Heath's Violet/Scarlet Occulture book discusses the existence of a Disk Pokemon that many have speculated is the hidden third legendary pokemon.
But there is more on this page then meets the eye...
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Chapters
The Disk Pokemon Reading - 0:05
Ciphers - 1:00
Scrambled - 2:20
Lines - 3:00 to 15:00
Revelations - 16:00 to 22:00
D.Ks - 23:00 to 25:00
A Call to Action For Physics - 25:30 - เกม
Hello Everyone! Thank you so much for taking the time to watch my video!
Please read this before commenting:
There are two subjects in this video that many are bringing up.
1. Many are stating they believe its "Viewed as a Whole" for line Eight, not "Veiled as a Whole" like I stated.
While I understand that Viewed as a Whole may seem to fit better and possibly it could be - please consider this -
I understand that it is shown as Vie_d and not vei_d but hear me out on this - I believe this is a Cipher within a Cipher, you have to swap the letters in the word viewed to get veiled while finding the missing letters for vieled. Its definetely a reach but the other alternative is - this line is a red herring or I'm just wrong.
However it would not take away from the rest of the cipher.
Veiled could stand for disguise or conceal, two words that fit much better with the sentence than Vieled, but to use those words - the cipher would not work.
It's the same with Viewed. If you use Viewed - the letters WE would be put in the cipher with the letters SEM. To my knowledge these letters do not make a word that could used.
Plus when creating the Cipher, Heath would not anyone to just figure it out. So creating a sentence like this creates a divide between which word is correct. It's actually genius.
2. TD Systems - this was only introduced in the video because there was nothing else that dk could actually be that would make sense within the context of the Cipher. If you can find something DK could stand for that makes sense with Cipher, please do so.
I also stated in regards to TDS - I have basic knowlege on the subject - 19:00
If you have greater knowledge please share it so we can get to the bottom of this mystery!
When I post videos - I never look at it as being correct or wrong. I present my findings to you all so we can truly figure it out together.
If anyone can find something different from the Cipher please do so.
Thank you all for watching! See you next time!
I really love your analysis since I think you're the only one who dove that deep into this mystery so good job. But there's one thing I found out in my research on the topic and the thing is, all black squares that hide letters in the book hide 2 letters. that's why I'm not sure if the 3rd legendary will actually be a disk pokemon (even though it's mostly looking like it). maybe drisk pokemon? noone knows. Also the Belem tower and Belem in general is in Lisbon, Portugal but I still think you did an amazing job here!
Disk Pokémon in my opinion is arceus It seems like both legends of arceus and this game is connecting in some way
The time machien is no Tine maschien its a giant 3D Printer
o polem translate
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"Then the letters DK are left over"
*IT WAS DONKEY KONG ALL ALONG*
I was going insane over that for like two hours because everytime I was searching online - that kept coming up. 🤣
@@therealdrogane a flor
@@therealdrogane lol
Yooo! I studied engineering in high school. Pokémon actually loves integrating science into the game. This whole concept of a system and surrounding makes total sense. That’s why the Crater is so isolated from the Surroundings. It’s like an nearly isolated system. The “wall” of the crater leaks its heat which is why Great Tusk was able to leak through the barrier. The same way heat leaks through a wall that isn’t isolated.
Interesting tibid I forgot there. Thank you for that!
It might be interesting to note that crystals reflect light. It could be possible that the intentions, thoughts, and feelings of the people in Area Zero impact which paradox pokemon are created. Professor Turo and Sada are dressed differently and the machines that they built could have harnessed energy from the third legendary and reflected that energy through their own feeings determining how that energy was manifested into these terrifying creatures. I think the theory could use some polishing, and some contextual basis, but it isn’t out of the realm of possibility that human interaction as an outside force is determining the energy’s form. Pokemon mever escaped the crater until the first expedition at a time when people misunderstood pokemon and could have seen them as Ferocious beasts of ancient superiority or Advanced beings from a future time of development
They had 2 gens of just Alchemy references, I loved it
"the power of science is amazing"
Fittingly, both mascot legendaries have signature abilities tied to heat and energy.
It makes me wonder then why Koraidon is fighting type despite having sunlight ability. Had they been dragon fire electric though it would be just like unova legendaries.
@@soulshadow219 GameFreak probably didn't want to have another Reshiram predicament or just wanted to make this games legendaries unique. Reshiram in previous gens was one of the worst legendaries due to its fire typing being absolutely useless in Ubers along with retaining a stealth rock weakness. Koraidon's ability and stabs allow it to take on key Pokemon such as Dialga, Giratina, and the Galar doggos. It's a better Kommo-o in every way.
@@soulshadow219 Same. Think they just wanted to avoid making them the exact same as the BW duo. It does make me want to make my Koraidon Tera fire, though.
I see the parallels between Heath and the main character when they mentioned “a mount”
Because Heath’s signature Pokémon is a Cyclizar while the protagonists has Paradox Cyclizar.
Okay, so like I have a theory for DLC.
The building the Time Machine is in, is the inside of the mysterious crystal third legendary. The third legendary has reality warping powers, like Entei/Unown had in the third Pokémon movie with the crystal tower- and reflects the desires of those who it interacts with. The functional machine, as well as the past and future paradox forms are manifestations of the desires of the professors.
That's what I have been thinking.
or maybe the third legendary time travels in giant portals and that’s how different paradox pokemon came into the world without the use of the time machine bc it wasn’t built until after the scarlet/violet book was published
While I couldn't say for sure it is strange that we can go back inside that room in post game when there's nothing to interact with inside.
@@RooftopRose079 Which is why I believe the area is not imaginary.
I always thought it was weird that AI sada/Turo said to go on their own adventure of sorts while also stating that they can’t function outside the great crater.
The idea of the disk Pokémon being something that creates Pokémon from imagination or other things is really interesting and makes me wonder what this thing truly is
I thought about that too. Kinda makes me wonder if they shut down as soon as they got to their destination and now their just sitting there like that Bill Cipher statue. Except you know, hand in pocket instead of waiting for a handshake lol.
@@TheGrossDemon that’s kinda sad to think as AI Sada would most likely have been thrown into the past, and there’d probably be ancient remains of AI Sada still inactive after her sacrifice since her technology is so advanced no one in the past could have known how to repair her
@SabakuShinJu They likely knew they would shut down but cared so much for what Sada and Turo lost sight that they did it anyway. With the direction the story took, I wouldn't be surprised
And when they implied that they would be free, in a sense, they would be. But it came at the cost of their functionality. Wherever they ended up, I'm sure they were at the least able to get a good view of their surroundings. And I hope that when they finally shut down, they were happy in their own way
That part read to me as a suicide. They knew they were going to shut down.
What if this Disk Pokémon is like a mirror.
So from what I’m understanding and can assume that this third legendary Pokemon crash landed in paldea and has the ability to creat the paradox Pokemon by just moving and existing with in this very specific space. The Paradox Pokemon are not from the past or future but are the Pokemon pass expedition teams have brought with them that are mutated or created based off of them. Hence why we have a random of assortment of them. Volcrona is actually a Pokemon that in the past gave light like the sun so they used that Pokemon to light their way in the crater. Deli bird and Jiggly puff would deliver supplies. Cyslzlar and Donpahn would provide transportation and move the crystals and supplies while the others would help Mine the crystals or protect the party. And the third legendary may have a connection to Mega eveloutions because roaring moon is said to be similar to Salamances mega evolution. And the AIs were possibly created by the third based off the likeness of the dead professors and the Time Machine may be something else entirely.
I really like your idea about the mega evolution. Seeing as how Kalos might be in the top right.
And I always thought that the hexagonal disk looked like when you mega evolve a Pokémon Ingame and it shows some kind of sphere breaking into shards that maybe look a little like hexagons
Edit: and because I think Iron Valiant also kind of looks like a mix of mega Gardevoir and mega Gallade!
Maybe the time machine is more like a pipe connecting the space where the entity is, to the space we exist.
As for the Paradox Pokémon (if we go with this theory), they were probably born from a combination of two energies, one, the Disk Pokémon and two, the brain waves of a person aka a person's thoughts and imagination. If my thoughts lead to any interesting theories of your own, please do share.
I don't think they lied i think the Ai was unaware. Remember that the tera crystals powered up the ai not create it. It also only had sada/Turo memories so its limited. During the Vs PPP (paradise protection protocal) it realized something was off and tells u to run and the ai feet and parts of its body turned into terra crystals and used the ai system locked ur pokeballs the other koridon/Miridon was protecting the same area when the professor left why would it stay if it lost to our koridon/Maridon unless it was guarding something else there and it shaked violently. The Vs.PPP part was not supposed to happen even the ai professor seems shocked by what was happening when PPP activated u beat them, not when u beat them in battle since they were satisfied when they lost. The ai professor definitely knew something was at play knew it was very dangerous PPP wasn't aprt of the ai professor's defense system because it would have mentioned it. They said that u only have to battle them. Something (the 3rd legendary) didn't think u was going to beat the ai professor. Got angry and activated in paradise protection protocol and used the opposing miradon and koridon Locke's ur pokemon which u use ur legendary based on the game to fight. Remember that Heath had a Cyclizar as well it was his. Remember Heath did something and didn't remember. either it was the 3rd legendary or Heath who attacks the player, penny, Nemona, and Arven as if u were getting to close to find out the truth of the 3rd legendary. Just like the paradox pokemon Kiridon/Miridon forms dosen't make any sense either and had names similar to the other paradox pokemon we know that they are versions of Cyclazar but not the other paradox pokemon because its our 1st time seeing them and other characters such as penny and arven pointed out jigglypuff, Delibird and Donphan and their appearance to their paradox versions since they were never seen before amd only meantion in the Voilet amd Scarlet books
Go back to the lab, there are notes when you interact with one of the walls that alludes to the PPP, meaning the original professor did create it.
@@PokeHokage Yep, it's the other way around. The AI was created by the professor, but the means to do so was provided by the 3rd legendary (extrapolated name Suenor or Sonhor maybe). I think that this Pokemon WANTED the professor to make this machine, to allow it to continue fulfilling its purpose (expand crystals/gain more power to turn more dreams into reality). However, Suenor/Sonhor underestimated the professor's sheer obsession with protecting their dream which was being realized, and therefore did NOT forsee the additional failsafes that ultimately trapped it in the system, as it was part of the system, the source of the machine's power most likely.
It also leads to my suspicion that "AI Prof" is actually a fake, and simply a manifestation of the 3rd legendary in a humanoid form. What did the AI Prof want us to do? Shut down the system, shut down the machine. Why would the AI be surprised about the additional failsafes unless it didn't know about them? But how could it not know?
Hi Drogane,
I wanted to take a moment to talk about some of the issues I took with your video. I can see the effort you put in, and I commend you for that, but it really does feel like the theory wasn’t completely prepared.
Let’s start with the generals, overall I can see some problems with your theory crafting as a whole. When it comes to searching for solutions, good puzzles will generally have some kind of consistency to let people know they’re on the right track. With Transposition Ciphers, this is usually a coherent sentence or pattern. Your proposed answer’s do not do this. Having different languages requiring translations, names of towns and even a system of temperature, there really is no rhyme or reason to the words you claim are the solution. Which brings me to my next point- forcing an answer. While I understand some of the more difficult puzzles require lateral thinking, at the end of the day they make sense. I feel your extrapolation of what we know about Area Zero onto your given words list is quite an extreme reach. You admit several times in the video that you weren’t sure, which is usually a good indication that a theory needs a bit more time in the oven before presenting.
Now let’s get into specifics:
BRITER- Right out of the gate unfortunately, I feel your force fitting got in the way of finding a more viable solution. A Transposition Cipher should not need replacement letters, and the use of Britar over Briter to create your answer breaks away from how Transposition Ciphers are suppose to function. I think you might have been better off just saying it was “Brighter” instead of replacing a letter-translating to Portuguese-create action- define.
BELEM- At the end of the day, Belem is a noun and doesn’t “mean” anything. The suggestion of the Belem towers being a reference to the Paldean watch towers doesn’t really give us any insight into what they may mean or what they are for. I think in future videos, you should think about how each of the parts of your theory relates to your claim.
THE GEM- pretty simple, and I think this was really your only solid answer. Truthfully you should have just left it as “maybe a reference to the structure as a whole” instead of going into Belem or a story about a creature destroying them as an act of revenge. Where did that story come from?
VEXA- a similar situation to Briter, where the rules of Transposition Ciphers are ignored. The word Vexa only exists as inflections of other words: vexar, vexer, or even the English vex. I think this is the word that could have tipped off the most that you were on the wrong path with using a line-by-line Transposition Cipher to get solutions.
PAEON- I want to ask you this: do you truly believe that a word describing poetry is actually used to describe the cry of a Pokemon? I understand sometimes solutions can be used as metaphors, but this just seems too oddly specific to be correct.
RITT- switching languages again to Dutch, also again breaking the validity of using Portuguese words as a possible suggestion.
CHART- I found it interesting that this one required two lines to work. I am confused why you allowed this one to be combined as opposed to any of your previous words, which were all on a line-by-line basis.
ROOM and DK- Getting to this point is what actually inspired me to create this response. Up until Chart, you had only been doing one-line-one-word solutions, and at this point you created two words with one line (and a remaining letter). I found it particularly confusing why it took until this point for mixing lines to be an option for creating words as possible solutions. In regards to Room, you seemed very definitive in it being the Area Zero cave area, for this in particular I wish you would have explained why other ideas wouldn’t work, instead of just saying “it’s easy enough to explain why”. A space that can be occupied is a very broad idea, and for all we know this could refer to where the third legendary resides. It would have been interesting to explore why other options wouldn't work with the conviction you presented your answer with. Then there’s DK... I am an engineer and this is the biggest thing that stuck out to me. Decikelvin is 10^-1, that much is correct, however that is not equal to -10... it is 0.1. Furthermore, Decikelvin is a fairly obsolete unit. I think it is an incredible stretch to say DK is suppose to be Decikelvin, as when it comes to measurements in temperature, we tend to use scientific notation rather than the SI prefixes (for example, if we had 278 Kelvin, we would sooner use 2.78*10^2°K before using 2780°dK) All of that is to say, I think this particular one could have benefitted from a greater understanding of what Decikelvin is and its actual applications.
Finally: The conclusion, I’m not sure how any of the video supports or even leads to this claim. I think this could have benefited from a relation to the points you gave before for each of the individual words you presented.
Overall here’s what I would suggest: 1. Consider how the puzzle fits together, if you’re forcing a ton of pieces together maybe try a different approach. 2. Don’t be afraid to reach out for help, you may be able to find people with more experience in the field (in this instance riddle-solving, theory-crafting and thermodynamics/mathematics) 3. Make sure to relate evidence back to your claim. Staying on topic rather than a stream of consciousness will help you convey your ideas flow better, and asking questions (especially “why is it this way” will help you create more meaningful dialogue).
I want to conclude my….annoyingly lengthy response with this: I really hope I do not offend or insult you with my breakdown. You have a fun way of making videos, and even though I had all these seemingly-negative thoughts on it, I did truly enjoy watching. Your editing style and visual aids were spot on, I just want to hopefully give some insight into how your content can be even better in the future!
Best of luck!
This is the best comment I've had to this video by far.
Criticism is by far the best teacher and the fact you took the time to do is in of itself a blessing.
Thank you.
Exactly!!! Literally took my thoughts and put them on comments...thank you! I like his videos too..just going waaay far in the stretches. But I do think somethings there somewhere.
This is how criticism should be presented. Keeping it humble, great breakdown and most importantly end on a positive.
THAT was everything I thought about the video, but presented in a much better way than I could ever think of doing. I can only say THANK YOU for your time writing this.
It's not time machine, it's a dimensional machine that can transport otherworld Pokémons in paldea.
Possibly
Idk, they did a DNA test on the mascots. It would be odd for the equivalent of a UB to have DNA in common with Cyclizar. Alternative history, maybe, but another dimension, unlikely.
The fourth line- It's an alien recreating speech patterns. The AI are part Tera crystal, so it makes sense. It might even imply that the pokemon is creating life, almost perfectly mimicking the lifeforms it encounter, via AI.
Possibly. That one is very hard to pin down because it can mean so many things at once. But I think you may be right
now i know how the power of science guy feels every time i talk to him in pokémon games .. thankyou for this
You're welcome my favorite ghost type
What would be freaky is if this third legendary Pokémon is either controlling, had created, or had manifested an avatar of itself in the form of Geeta. Heck, maybe Nemona is important to this since people have pointed out that her name comes from the word/name "Nemo" which means "no one". I think that it is Greek in origin, found in Homer's Odyssey. Anyway, the significance to Nemona's name perhaps won't necessarily be similar like how Kyurem is the "no one" to Reshiram's "Yin" and Zekrom's "Yang", but still.
Sorry if this was nonsensical and incredulous. These were some thoughts I've had from the few theory/hypotheses videos you've uploaded that I've seen.
I should also clarify the reason we have these “redactions” is VERY clearly explained to be because these pages are looked at so frequently that they are smudged.
The crystals do in fact make a sound. When you throw the Tera Orb, it pops open and makes a Pokemon Cry. This sound precedes the formation of the crystal, meaning it's not exactly the crystals themselves making this sound, but whatever power is making the crystals that Tera your pokemon appear.
Seeing as the crowns appear after the Cyrstals do, and the crowns have eyes, it's possible that the crowns themselves are a pokemon. One that can deploy terastal energy. A miniature version of the disk legendary. Since they're snowflakes, natural hexagons, they could have a similar sound to the supposed Terastal Legendary.
I say supposed because consider this: What if the Disk Legendary is also fabricated? Heath Expected to find a Guardian of Area Zero. The True MVP could be the snowflakes we form in the Tera Orbs, that later become crowns, making real even their own guardian 'deity'.
Very good comment. I did think of the tera orbs that way but you are right. They have a very distinctive sound.
Mega evolution and terastalization is some how connected
Maybe.
When first seeing that page I’ve believed that the disk Pokémon is the ceiling of the room where you fight the prof. If the thermodynamic system part is true, then that would explain why we only see crystal growing around it and sealing off the room after it is used, almost like a byproduct of activating the system. If true, the crown in the book pic is probably the part of the ceiling where the master ball paradoxes fall from
Wonderful job on this really shows how much time and effort went into figuring this out.
Thank you!
Great video!
Hearing all of this, it makes me wonder so many things. It also makes me think that the writers used the word Paradox for a reason like how you used it in the explanation of thermodynamics.
It's mentioned by Arven that the AI stated the time machine brought the Paradox Pokemon here, but they were also clearly recorded in the Scarlet or Violet book which existed before any of the characters we know were even born.
I've seen people say Sada and Turo and both AI are lying, however, they technically aren't. It's a Paradox. Heath and his team seeing those Pokemon and recording them did in fact happen, but it's also true that these Paradox Pokemon were brought to the present by the device due to the imagination of Sada and Turo and their wishes. Due to the very definition of a paradox, this is entirely possible when in all fathomable odds it shouldn't be. Which seems to be another facet of the third legendary's power. It clearly creates Paradoxes and anomolies.
Plus, with the third Legendary's power working the way you said it does, one may also ask how two different people would end up having the same imaginative depiction of those Pokemon. It's the fact that Sada and Turo were so engrossed with these Pokemon within the books themselves, that even if they hadn't remembered every detail, their subconscious resulted in the exact same depiction being created again in the present when the device was finished and functioning.
There is also one last question this entire story has made me think about-
Can the third legendary, or even just tera crystals, create living beings with a soul or grant a non organic being a soul? Are Glimmet and Glimmora proof of this based on one of Glimmora's dex entry? Not to mention the various Paradox Pokemon. Koraidon and Miraidon exhibit personalities, and seem to harbor a soul. AI Sada and Turo exhibit emotions before they leave and develop a will of their own which is disguised as logically deducing destruction doesn't make sense over Sada and Turo's obsession programmed into the AI.
These emotions and independent actions against their own programming are clearly something an AI shouldn't be capable of, but AI in any other circumstance wouldn't be created or powered by tera crystals. So what truly are tera crystals capable of if the third legendary has the power to do all of these things?
Apologies for the lengthy post-
Imagine the DLC is a parallel universe where we actually save the professors and they don’t die.
The thermodynamics could be related to what Terastel phenomenon is in the form of crystalization which is almost akin to Quartz for it's hexagonal structure and variety of colors.
Very good point.
Another banger vid lets goo!
Thank you!
This was very well made. Keep up the good work.
Thank you
I relate the fourth line to frequency. This mystery might relate to the third Pokemon movie with Entei and the unknown.
Everything is "inside a thermodynamic system". If it exists, there's energy. If there's energy, it's a thermodynamic system. Thermodynamics is just the study of energy. In fact, the 1st Law of Thermodynamics is something you studied in middle school, the conservation of energy.
I can tell you right now my poor middle did not teach that 🤣 Explain scientific systems such as these will never be my thing.
However just to clarify, it being inside any system to me wasn't really the point of this video.
It was to highlight the existence of the cipher - outside of that its pretty much up to everyone else what they pull from it or don't.
Wait, if this thing truly made these paradox mons then the alchemy theory has been proven.
YOU ARE KILLING IT
Thank you!
Just a thought but DOKMOR could also be a scrambled version of the 3rd legend's name. In sada/turo's journal in one of the labs they do talk about this 3rd legendary but they don't reveal the name, instead it's 6 blanks, but it's likely that's not the case. I can't wait for the dlc though I'm really excited to see what this pokemon is
I don't think it's DOKMOR. The last letter IS "R" though. But all of the symbols in the name are different (look at the entry in Violet/Scarlet book named A Disk Pokemon? You'll see the depiction of the Pokemon AND in the top left corner, there are six symbols, all different. This is most likely the pokemon's name.
I’m kinda creeped out by this Pokémon really 😳😳
I’m getting Gravity Falls flashbacks
You're doing a great job with these theory videos! That being said, I feel like this one may have been a bit of a reach. Maybe it would be good to look back at the cipher and form a single sentence from the whole paragraph instead of one from each line.
Omg thank you for the fact that you put so much effort into this Video
I wanted to know so hard why paradox Pokémon exists
Thank you!
Vieled isn't a word, veiled is e before i, so the word would be "Viewed". Which makes the 8th line WELEM and doesn't decipher into anything. Unless theres a Kalosian Mew named Le'Mew (which I'm definitely on board for).
Excellent video, I think the best approach to determine if there is a cipher though would be to see if other language adaptions of the s/v books also have a cipher that yields similar results.
Glad to see more evidence to point towards imaginary Paradox-mons.
Question. Would it be possible to solve the Pokemons name in the research book found in Research Station 1 using the Disk Pokemon page?
I have not looked into that yet because this took a great deal of time to figure out. However, I will definetely try to find out!
I believe so. If you look at Line 2 on the Area Zero metal plaque, you will see four symbols (the first and last are the same) and the 0. I believe this to say "AREA 0".
Knowing this, we now know the 2nd symbol is "R". If you look at Heath's page titled "A Brilliant Disk?" and look at the picture depicting the Pokemon, you will see six different symbols. One of which seems to be the same as the second symbol on the plaque, so it's:
_ _ _ _ _ R
I'm almost 100% certain the last letter is "R". As for the rest....IF this Pokemon makes dreams/imaginations reality....the Spanish word for "dream" is...Sueño. simplifying that, and adding the R...
*S U E N O R*
The metal plate with the hourglass shape on it in area zero, has a map with eleven dots on it. I believe they are the eleven towers across the open-world
Im suddenly imagining a flaming godly hybrid of mousehold and cryoganal
Nightmares
Hi there! Not a physicist, but I am a mathematician. Great job on the video! I can see you put a lot of time and effort into it. I did want to calcify some things though. (10^-1) is not the same as -10. It would be (1/10) with is 0.10. This also fits the Kelvin scale as you cannot have a negative Kelvin value.
I don’t think this would change much, if any at all, of your video as when you subtract to convert Kelvin, you would still end up with a negative value.
Hope this helps!
Well like my English my math is trash 🤣 but that does sound much more plausible. Thank you!
this is so smart. I'm German and will check this with the german version of the game
The make up the universe bit made me think of something unrelated to Thermo Dynamic. The third legendary could be an Akashic Record of sorts. If it's what made Heath write down those notes he made (which I believe were for the time machine itself), it fits. Knows whatever will come before and after. Which makes me think it might be Psychic/Rock. If a reality warper, it can maybe create replicas of that which came before and will come later. Or maybe it showed the Area Zero folks visions of said Pokémon (illusions).
I tried to assemble a full sentence out of these missing letters in the Disc Pokémon entry, just for funsies (and using "viewed" because it seemed a natural choice of words for me). The less nonsensical thing I got is: THE GREAT CRATER POINT WHERE THE X MARK MEET VIDEO BOMB.
I am not even sure they intended to put a riddle there, so if anyone wants to try and make a photo safari all over Paldea in search of something that shouldn't be in the camera, feel free to do it 🤷♂️
Nice find
There is no "third legendary". The entity was taken apart to create the time machine
OR, it could simply be the time machines reach through time. Appearing in times that it reached out to
Animal drawn makes me think of the Khu riddles. People kept thinking we would get a chariot mon.
This was a cracked one that made my head hurt. I followed it enough though.So, with the word relating to rhythm, it might be referring to the rate at which this Mech can create things. I'm not sure that the AI is lying. It didn't know there was second back up program. Also, I could be an imagination machine. Rather than the paradox mons not being real, the Mech could effectively a 3D printer. I also wonder where the AI went to, if not a time machine. Also also, where did the box legendscome from? I would also like to know why the Ultamate Weapon and Tera Crystals look so similar. Something also to consider looking in to is the Paldean language. There are custom symbols for text. You can also see a similar thing in LA and SWSH. Like, on the picture, what are the markings in the top left? GG With figuring out the whole cypher thing. Even if you are way off, at the very least your chanle is digging up evidence for more to use. I have a sneaking suspicion that solving Galar and Kalos mysteries will help here. Lastly, I will point out, Arven said his parent is the only one who had a copy with the page with no black out. Anyway, very interested in the next video :]
Trust me my head hurts too. I have no idea if I'm right but I hope by sharing what I found will prompt all of you to help me figure more of it out.
Also - Terra energy existed since the crater formed I believe but that does not mean Az could not have sped the process or possibly hurt the Legendary that lurks down there.
Great video, this one has me scratching my head. Sorry, I’m bad at physics, but hopefully someone can help you out with that. Very cool!!
Yeah it's absolutely a head scratcher for sure. Only Game Freak knows the full truth at this point.
When I was doing the school parts of the game, I just figured it inserted the players name in place of the explorer.
After watching this I’m thinking that disk Pokémon could be a living sun since it’s hot and creates things
Possibly.
@@therealdrogane the power the warp reality made it millions years old or fake the age of the crater.
Okay so from what i gathered from the end part with the Kelvin température.. Whatever creature inside that crater is INSANELY COLD!!
0 Kelvin is the absolute zero temperature. It's so cold that any matter is frozen even atoms. So for that creature to have a temperature so close to it (0,1 Kelvin) is insane!!
No wonder a lot of energy is produced whenever it moves. It goes from frozen atoms to actual movements in just seconds!
I kept thinking about it and this température actually explains everything.
It being so low would mean that any créature (and perhaps atoms) would sublimate on touch. (Aka they'd turn solid from the cold than into gases from the sudden heat)
Doing so, those atoms could either reform into their original self or reform something else entirely! This completely explains all the paradox pokémons!!
A poor Delibird touched that thing? BAM all of it's atoms become metal now.
Same for the past paradox too but in a more spread out way.
However, that sublimation could also allow for two things to fuse into a third one. I theorize that, if two pokemons were to touch that Absolute Zero together they would sublimate. But instead of just changing into new creatures, they can fuse into a third one never seen before! Hence Iron Valiant.
What's even crazier is that all of this completely fits Terastalisation. When using it, you freeze your pokémon into a crystal (which are produced from intense heat) then it's transformed with a new type!
Now, all of this is based on science. But if that creature is actually conscious, would that mean it can decide what it transform those pokémons into?
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Could it do the same for people too?
so, if I understand this right: a pokemon professor is making their fan-fiction pokemon by isolating power form this 'third legendary' and shooting the pokemon out; by breaking it apart and molding somehow the 'past' pokemon out of the shards of this 'legendary' which is damaging the 'legendary' phisicly and emotionally?
For the fourth line (Paeon), not sure if it was meant to sound like the Spanish word for Pawn. In chess, a pawn that reaches enemy territory can be promoted into any of the other pieces. Considering the Terastilizing phenomenon as well as some of the dialogue of trainers using their Tera Orb, they help their Pokémon to become something else (their type).
Actually the teraorbs confirm your 9th translation briter.
This is actually further backed up when you find the old professors hideout in the lighthouse of the first of the game. There's a teraorb computer next to a pokeball printer. The Terra orb is actually extremely similar to a normal pokeball.
Ritt it could possibly be a relative to Cyclizar being the mount Pokemon and the biggest reference to other legendaries.
See I've been theorizing that this paradox Pokemon that's causing terrestrialization this new legendary that hasn't been mentioned is a false timeline paradox.
Inside its shell is a false timeline which they extract paradox Pokemon. Which is also the reason why paradox Pokemon do not have genders and don't drop tm items.
Your theory can also be supported by the marker board that the AI that you encountered at the last game was sitting in front of.
It's a unique texture with complete diagrams.
The diagrams themselves are folded and showing that a segment of that folded timeline is two ruptures spewing out in two different directions which they're extracting Pokemon from.
You can also see under the sticky notes of that marker board right under the photos of Arvin. Of a cone like diagram in the form of a bottleneck in the same design of the chamber that which they did extract Pokemon from.
18:19 actually it's not insane the observer effect is known in the quantum Dynamics as well. Literally what this new legendary Pokemon is allows its trainer to create a essentially its own universe inside its shell. Turo and Sada created their own universes with this legendary when they found it and started extracting the imaginary Pokemon that they created from false timelines.
Again it's the reason why paradox Pokemon do not have gender or drop tm items.
People are running around saying it's another zygarde which is the order Pokemon which would completely contradict this new paradox legendary Pokemon.
I mean if they're creating paradox Pokemon how come they haven't created paradox people yet? Arvin himself could be a paradox person. Professors turo and sada. Could have created their own Arvin as a experiment on how far that the Pokemon's powers can go.
The crater is a black hole.
I think the weird third legendary possessed the professor with its crystals because in the game it stated that crystals can even take over living beings or something.
And that when it possessed the professor it saw their obsession with the past/future and made up some of the past or future form pokemon based on which professor it had taken over
Also as a Dutch person here a "rit" is really just a drive or riding something and not a specific vehicle. But I'm still wondering if you would actually be able to ride the 3rd legendary or if it stands for that you might need to ride a Pokémon to do something against it?
My only worry about this cipher is, does it work in other languages. I haven't had much time but I haven't found images of this page in Spanish or Japanese for example.
I m from Portugal Belém Tower exists here in lisbon
Well then you would definetely know more about that history than I ever could.
@@therealdrogane well that's the only part I understood from that the other things looks like Latin to me haha belém tower has a story as well so it might be linked to that idk
@@tqwpt We'll figure it out!
I..can't even imagine how long this took for you to figure out.
Too long
6 letters....and this pokemon seems to have the power tomake imagination, or dreams, reality.
"Sonho" is portugese for "Dream"
Knowing this, looking at the plaque's 2nd line, one has to deduce that the 2nd line reads "AREA 0"
Further knowing this, we know that the final letter in the Pokemon's name is "R"
In spanish, Dream is sueño (or for simplicity, Sueno)
*I think the 3rd legendary pokemon's name could be either Sonhor OR Suenor.*
3rd generation in a row they keep making legendaries with more power in lore than the known for of Arceus
Im glad PLA fixed this by saying the Arceus you can get is a slim fragment and not the true form
i wish i could think this deeply about literally anything :)
Makes me wonder what the Japanese version of the page would cypher out to be. Considering that this game was made by a Japanese developer team, it wouldn't be too far to say that perhaps the cypher would work better in Japanese than in English. Though I am unfamiliar with the full ins and outs of the language, so I can't offer much help in that regard.
I would not know - I have not tried but if someone does that would be great!
I just noticed something in the picture of the Pokémon, there are planets and such around it! May haps a reference to the system and its surroundings?
Glimmet and Glimmora feel like they are connected to the third legendary/device.
I think they are good at finding and detecting Tera energy. They are always swarming the bottom of area zero and hard to find on the surface. Gheeta using it as her ace, especially since a champion of her level would know to lead with it to use the ability, definitely signifies that it plays more of a role in the lore than we know so far
The last legendary could be a cyclazar but from present day time which is why it looks like it but a natural transformation
The 3rd Legendary is the secret 4th son of the most high Arceus
The tower could just be bigger stakes like what hold the legendary 4
And considering how utterly massive the 3rd legendary bad to be to create the Great Crater....this is possible.
No they used the the gems that broke off of it using the towers to light up the pokemon via some energy causing it distress or harm as the terra legendary because it uses its imagination and time of what pokemon was imagined into a form. By using both they could freely use the terra legendary powers to create pokemon rather past or future.
Im assuming the pokemon is the imagination pokemon or the creative pokemon
A cosmic turtle.
Something like that I suppose.
I have 2 theories
1. The real professor is not dead, but made it to the past or future because if the professor died they had a AI in the Zero Lab to continue but when the AI goes into the machine for their own adventure, they claim their HEART is racing with excitement so maybe the real professor made a cyborg version of themself so the public would think nothing about it while the real professor was in the past or future doing something because these professors were geniuses so just getting stabbed or something by the box legend doesn’t seem like someone that smart would lock themselves in a room with 2 giant lizards with no protection but would have a cyborg with the same memories and motives go and try to calm them down and stop fighting rather them themselves do it
2. Rather than being a time machine and the 3rd legend just creating paradox Pokémon at random but is actually a creature similar to an Ultra Beast but instead of just making portals to different parts of the same universe but making portals to different universes where things played out differently like for the past humans never existed so the Pokémon instead of evolving to be more friendlier to humans to take care of them and feed them instead of having to hunt they become more brutal and primal and for the future where humans were way more scientifically advanced and creating Pokémon from metal or if humans made Pokémon go extinct so they tried to remake these Pokémon from what clues they such as fossils from what little they had so that’s why the future paradox Pokémon look like there’s something off about them like Iron Valiant being a Gardevior and Galade and both their Mega Evolutions combined into one because they com from the same pre-evolutions and look pretty similar to each other and Iron bundle like Boeing it gives toys so that’s why it acts like a toy like it’s head popping off
Thanks Obama
Keep in mind, in the language course, APPROVED BY GEETA, you learn to tell emotion through pokemon cries. So paeon could relate to that somehow.
I forgot about that one. Good catch
@@therealdrogane Thanks dude :)
I should have been sus when any of the fossil pokemon did not appear in scarlet.
Look at the abilities the paradox pokemon and Kiridon/miridon its either heat and electricity(conducted energy) similarly to the thermal dynamic temperature created energy the future people are created somehow like a lazer. Lazers are usual conexted to electricity and metal
Very good observation!
So, I agree with a lot of what you say but I think the A.I. believed that it was a time machine. Because original prof programed it in. So, what I actually think was happening was the A.I was talking to the 3rd legendary and describing pokemon. Example if the 3rd legendary never saw a Jigglypuff and A.I sada was describing a Pokémon that that is loud when it sings, and it has a haircut like a tail it would probably automatically think it was a loud screaming tail
But we also know that both of the A.I couldn't leave the last research area but the original professors could so it's basically saying that the original professors were talking to the AI professors and trying to describe other Pokemon and then the AIS were talking to the legendary Pokemon describing what they heard from the original professors. The third legendary is creating Pokemon from the AI professors from what the AI professors heard from the original professors so it's like saying one person said this and it's getting jumbled because it's traveling from one person to person
@@gftderek3121 So basically a bad game of Telephone? ;P
Tbh: now i know how some people think the earth is flat
Wait, this isn't an Elden ring Lore video? (Amazing job speculating!)
i haven’t gotten far enough to see if it effects your theory but negative exponents don’t work like that
you take the reciprocal of the number with the exponent and then execute the power
ie: 10^-1=1/10, 5^-2=1/25, 2^-3=1/8 etc
edit: i put forgot the t on my to
basically exponents don’t work to change a number’s positivity or negativity (though they can make negative positive in even powers), they just change its absolute value at an exponential rate which can be seen on graphs by inputting x^2 and comparing it to 1/(x^2)
Wait can’t use that method for books in area zero lab in lab one?
Not sure. Have not tried. You could check though.
I've been scrutinizing the dialog in area zero since I started watching your content and when the AI in scarlet tries to say the word NOT she instead says no7. This makes me believe that Heath and 5 others were lost in that expedition making the player the 7th challenger to try to defeat whatever intelligence was created by the crystal formations. The AI says the professor worked alongside it not against it so I'm thinking Heath never tried to go along with the earliest version of the AI but over time with the professor they finished what the AI started. Since the AI built its 2.0 self around the professor their death caused the AI to finally understand the dangers of the machine and search for someone strong enough to bypass all the battle safeties.
The paradox pokemon are also potentially the primary partners for each lost trainer in Heaths expedition. There were 18 paradoxs so if we subtract the box arts, the 2 versions of donphan, and the new releases there are 6 version exclusive paradox pokemon for each and could have been what replaced each losing trainer that got pulled through what looked like an ultra wormhole.
Eventually the accident that caused the professors death also caused the leak of great tusks/iron treads and convinced the AI to seek the player out.
I guess I'm saying the AI found a slice of humanity in Arven a treasure of sorts that finally allowed it to end what I'm sure felt like an eternity. That is assuming I interpreted correctly that some version of the AI has existed as long as the crater or at least the Tera crystals have.
I actually figured it was a cipher when I first saw the page, remember jotting down what the letters should be but never got around the time to decide it. Glad others caught it so quick too :)
Belem palace gardens reminds me of kalos palace gardens. Very cool.
That's interesting.
Maybe Paeon means is to discover the name of the pokemon using the sound it makes
The effort put into this ... Wish I could give more than 1 like for this 🥲👍
I should probably point out that while Pokemon is a game played by adults (especially lifelong players), you cannot forget its core target: Children with a basic reading ability. All the convoluted theories are fascinating, but if your average kid isn't going to understand it, especially in the terms presented, then it in all honesty probably isn't the case. All puzzle examples in Pokemon are easily figured out...the most telling being the picture puzzles in Johto, because apparently the dum-dum adults there can't figure out how to put together puzzles that a kid easily masters.
You put an amazing amount of work into this video. Good job. I do find that many of the words and definitions are a huge reach. Did you try taking all of the missing letters as a whole and try unscrambling them? I also wonder if some of the letter combinations automatically belong together since they are in the same word. Maybe it's not, but it would make sense since it would be an easy choice to pick separate letters instead of ones next to each other. So using the title as an example, perhaps instead of o, k, m, o separately it's ok and mo. If the developers did it this way it would provide some big clues on how to fit these letters together. I also wonder if looking at the Japanese version of the puzzle would help. I would love to work on this, but unfortunately I'm both terrible at word jumbles and not knowledgeable enough with Japanese. But I hope someone else might follow up on these ideas.
Thanks so much for sparking interest in this idea. It had never occurred to me that the missing text could be a cipher!
I did - and nothing sensible came. Perhaps others who are better than me can find more.
@@therealdrogane Aw darn. I was about to try despite the difficulty, but if someone who managed to unscramble them into words FROM OTHER LANGUAGES couldn't do it, I'll quit while I'm ahead.
I'm still curious about the Japanese thing, but one thing I've noticed on TH-cam is that the Japanese lore community seems to be really separate from the English community. I've seen exceptions, but I think there's a possibility of more headway into a lot of lore and theories if we can bridge that divide.
Ah, that last part isn't directed at you. It's just a general musing.
I feel that the third legendary is a being that came from space and fell on the planet as a meteorite that created the same crater
More than likely. The Paldea Crater was created 1,000,000 years prior to the events of the game. This would make this thing one of the oldest Legendaries in existence.
And it's certainly not the first time a Pokemon from space crashed into the planet. Eternatus literally lost parts as it came from space, forming "wishing stars". If Suenor/Sonhor (assumed name) caused the Great Crater, which it most likely did, and was made of tera crystals as a body....it must've been absolutely MASSIVE.
Which leads to my theory that this Pokemon is attempting to rebuild its shattered body. It lost a LOT of itself upon impact, causing the crater.
We all need to remember this. This game was rushed. Yet game freak wrote this incredible lore. What is gonna happen if they are given more time to craft a proper game?
The end of the world
Have you decoded the blotted out pages we find in our journey down Area Zero at each research station? I'd be fascinated to find out if there's a connection to what Heath left us in the Scarlet/Violet Book.
Work in progress
@@therealdrogane Looking forward to the hypotheses and connections ahead! I just went through this video with my sons and they learned a little about Ciphers and Thermal Dynamics 🤣
In the 8th line where it says "viewed as a whole, it resembled a [disc]". Where did the L come from and where did the W go?
Pinned comment
Yup. Sorry I missed that.
@@NuncleG Its all good!
I just want to know how he got 'vieled' instead of 'viewed' in the second to last line. What does vieled even mean? The closest I can find online is veiled which doesn't fit with the spelling in the book, nor does it make sense contextually.
Please checked pinned comment. I addressed this but it's a fair criticism.
@@therealdrogane Oh, sorry. For some reason I can't see the pinned comment anywhere
@@Aweman13 Strange. Let me find it
They really made the Disk Pokemon feel like an SCP.
For real.
Love the video man, just a "correction", Belem is a city in Brazil, but i think the original reference is the "Torre de Belém" or Belem's Tower in Lisboa, Portugal. Brazilian portuguese and Portugal portuguese have several differences, so i think it is better to keep all the comparsions of portuguese to Portugal (i'm from Brazil by the way kkkk)
Yeah I saw someone bring that up. That was a good catch!
Wait how did you get belem arnt the missing letters in the eighth weemb were did you get L from isn't the text
" vie[we]d as a whole it res[emb]led a
mys[ter]ious [br]illiant d[i]sk "
So we're did L come from
See pinned comment
@@therealdrogane yea.... my bad... I read it after I commented
So I was following the cipher theory until he got o Hete, I speak spanish and have not heard of this word, this made me look it up and well i learned a new word lol, anyway it got me thinking, I am currently playing scarlet in spanish so i went to the book and noticed that different letters are missing in the spanish version compared to the english. To me this doesn’t make sense since the spanish and english alphabet share most letters, which would mean they would at least try and cut out the same letters here but they didnt, especially if they needed be used to make words in different languages.
"D ok mo ar rc t st ti p on ae o t ma ve xa ne ht glea we em ter br i"
That may be a anagram phrase. Just don't know what that means. Can think of "Disk Pokémon glows brighter at night" but that means nothing.
Another one could be: "Terapagos glows brighter deep on the ocean".
Could the disk Pokémon be based off of a Tesseract maybe?
Possibly.
If its true that this entity is just a dream/wish-creator using thermodynamics, then what happened to AI Sada/Turo? Where did they go? Did they get vaporized? Can we also talk about the fact that this video talks about heat and the dude's name is Heath.
The paradox Pokémon and the Ultra beasts have to linked in some way
The gem
On the crown of terastralised pokémon
It has eyes
Pog
I'm pretty sure it's "viewed" as a whole, not "veiled" as a whole
See pinned comment please.
This pokemon is like Arceus but on a much smaller scale.
Or bigger. I'm not sure yet.
Oh god... I did all the classes. I remember our history teacher pointing out the school was build years ago an never change. *except* The giant pokeball (that she found tacky). In the anime there was a giant stone pokeball that was a REAL pokeball with a pokemon in it. Is the pokeball above our school a real pokeball? Our language teacher has been teaching us pokemon "crys". You said that Paeon is them "measuring the beast sound?". Now I'm scared.
That's an interesting point! I wonder if that is the case!