@@SWong37 It's not nearly that simple because the qcb+mp gives you slaps, so just doing hcb will give you overlapping input windows and hitting mp will trigger the slaps first. You need to do 212321(pause)4+mp~hk. So basically, you open only the qcb window, delay opening the hcb window, then wait for the qcb window to close before going to 4 to get the b+mp for kara while the command grab window is still active to cancel into command grab. Yeah, it's complicated.
@@SirGrimly The kara technique is used to extend your special move's or super move's range. In 3rd Strike's case, you do it by cancelling the first frame of a normal with either a throw, the universal overhead, and specials and supers as mentioned before.
One of my favorite pastimes has become watching the 3rd Strike highlights and rounds channel, and as a lover of robotic characters in fighting games it's been a treat to catch glimpses of TM and closely talented challengers. It's great seeing Q shine and give others the hands; Still daring to hope they add him in SFVI, distinct from G. The SM64 coin sounds are highly appreciated.
Don't play fighting games, don't know what's going on beyond who's winning. This is still damn fun to watch. Something about Q is entertaining too, so different.
@@Oh-Ben Yeah, I don't know the terms like meaty or appreciate the amazing back and forth dance and use of space by both experts, but he's a funny guy and engaging. I've become a bit of a fan of his on TH-cam these last few months, despite knowing about him since his daigo Evo moment and his legendary status as an Evo champ.
@@nefariousnilbog In Street Fighter, and most fighting games when you press an attack the move has three phases. Startup, contact, and recovery. Each part is measured in a short time frame know as a frame. Usually moves connect immediately l so you hit the first part. But on wake-up for example when getting up you are immune so you can time it, and hit a later active frame. This means that you get to act sooner than normal which is absurdly useful in fighting games. Essentially it's timing a move so that after you can move quickly to get a better combo, better pressure, or better mixups after. It can also make unsafe moves possible to throw out.
@@nefariousnilbog It's amazing how Daigo's Evo Moment has been influential, I even started playing this game because of it. And I train on it a bit every day (I'm a Rank C player online, which means intermediate level). Loved your comment!
Q is a really interesting character. Part rekka, part grappler, controls like a rock, needs to taunt to multiple times to access health reserves, huge, slow target with devastating traps and combos .
This is a very nice match! That Kara Command Grab by Q is OD and is very hard to execute, much more to setup it up. From a Japanese tutorial video that I watched, the best players really set it up from an air to air hit near the corner. Also, the usual cue they're going to do it is they suddenly crouch from outta nowhere. I hope you fought KUNI as well on your time in Japan! That I wanna see.. 😀😀
I don't comment a lot but thank you for uploading videos against Q. I think he's a fascinating low tier character and watching magicians work him against you (You who I consider is the gold standard of fighting players) is always amazing.
11:32 If I remember correctly, this is a "bug". When you crouch, there are frames where you cannot be thrown. It's as if you duck the throw. 10 years ago, TM was known to do this, and the timing is so specific that the other players could not do it as consistently as he. Not even Kuroda could do this as well as TM. I remember this coming up a couple of times in GGPO chat when the whole lobby would spectate the pro players.
the beauty here is that Q is deemed as the lowest in the tier list yet is capable of a lot of things, which shows you that the low tiers in 3rd Strike are a menace in their own right compared to other games where low tiers are just...bad picks.
NGL really hoped you guys had a last round match, but just because you don't find these kind of matches anywhere else. Soooooo goooood. Let's go Justin!
Love your videos Justin. All the Gods in fighting games as well...much love from Houston TX. I wish our arcades were popular here :'( I need to find a spot
11:20 its not jump cancel tech, its more simple than that. Q has throw invul frames during his crouch animation, so there are some good OS that beat throw and meaty low
There's a nice way for Chunli to do some nice damage . Usually you do medium spinning bird kick quickly ram hk into hyakureskyaku . IT comes out very fast . You deal more chip damage or you surprise him with some damages.
TM is the legend of the kara command grab. I've seen the man do 4 of them in a row without his opponent being able to do anything. Also I love how he taunts at the beginning of the round like 80% of the time lol. You always know it's TM if the Q taunts as soon as the round begins.
random question @8:47 We can see Chun walking back so i guess Justing holding down the back direction on joystick. and we also see Q is charging towards Chun with attack. But we don't ever see Chun get in block animatiıon. Why is that? Isn't the player supposed to get in block animation while holding back direction when opponent has active attack frames regardless of the attack could reach the player or not?
Q has a glich with his crouch to stand animation, think he is classed as airborne briefly so cant be thrown, but can be air thrown. Saw it recently in a TheoryFighter short.
The mystery of Q remains... Hope they include him in SF VI... Those throws are really hard to read and I know that Justin really hates throws.. makes Q look like a grappler
With all due respect; this guy is definitely not the best Q player in the world.. there is another Japanese player named Kuroda who probably would have put up a much better fight than this dude; would definitely love to see you play against him if the chance ever arises. Kuroda is like the OG good Q player. Before I saw him, I didn't even think it was possible to be good with Q. He has some excellent highlight footage here on youtube. (Just read through the rest of the comments and really glad so many other people recognize him.. lmao)
Justin... ya probably should've updated your Breaker Collection ad... since this video came out long after you did your arcade run of the team mode lol
Seeing good Q players is always a treat
Now we need to see good TWELVE players
@@typhlocube9359 also Elena and Necro players
Hey man, we out here grinding to learn how to beat everyone 💯 with Q. Takes time, but I will become a top Q player!
Kuroda RIP
@@snackzilla1652 he died?
The Kara Command Grab is really hard to do and it's incredibly impressive that TM can do it so consistently
Is he using b+mp to kara by doing hcb mp, hk?
@@SWong37 the input is extremely wonky with a few variations. I use 21232{1}4MP~HK
Newbie fighting game player here... what's a Kara Command Grab?
@@SWong37 It's not nearly that simple because the qcb+mp gives you slaps, so just doing hcb will give you overlapping input windows and hitting mp will trigger the slaps first. You need to do 212321(pause)4+mp~hk. So basically, you open only the qcb window, delay opening the hcb window, then wait for the qcb window to close before going to 4 to get the b+mp for kara while the command grab window is still active to cancel into command grab.
Yeah, it's complicated.
@@SirGrimly The kara technique is used to extend your special move's or super move's range. In 3rd Strike's case, you do it by cancelling the first frame of a normal with either a throw, the universal overhead, and specials and supers as mentioned before.
11:27 - Q's throw box is in the air for a few frames after crouching. He can even be air thrown when he does this.
11:20 Q is in the air after standing from crouch for 3 frames. You can air throw him but not throw him on the ground.
One of my favorite pastimes has become watching the 3rd Strike highlights and rounds channel, and as a lover of robotic characters in fighting games it's been a treat to catch glimpses of TM and closely talented challengers. It's great seeing Q shine and give others the hands; Still daring to hope they add him in SFVI, distinct from G.
The SM64 coin sounds are highly appreciated.
Q2: Judgement Day.
@@falguard Du du dun! Du dun!!
Wow, TM is such a fast learner. Look how fast he picks up after those first two matches and he comes around, dishing out some hot SLAPS.
Don't play fighting games, don't know what's going on beyond who's winning. This is still damn fun to watch. Something about Q is entertaining too, so different.
Yea it's nice Justin is explaining the finer aspects
@@Oh-Ben Yeah, I don't know the terms like meaty or appreciate the amazing back and forth dance and use of space by both experts, but he's a funny guy and engaging. I've become a bit of a fan of his on TH-cam these last few months, despite knowing about him since his daigo Evo moment and his legendary status as an Evo champ.
@@nefariousnilbog In Street Fighter, and most fighting games when you press an attack the move has three phases. Startup, contact, and recovery. Each part is measured in a short time frame know as a frame. Usually moves connect immediately l so you hit the first part. But on wake-up for example when getting up you are immune so you can time it, and hit a later active frame. This means that you get to act sooner than normal which is absurdly useful in fighting games.
Essentially it's timing a move so that after you can move quickly to get a better combo, better pressure, or better mixups after. It can also make unsafe moves possible to throw out.
@@personpersonson7958 Very interesting stuff, thanks.
@@nefariousnilbog It's amazing how Daigo's Evo Moment has been influential, I even started playing this game because of it. And I train on it a bit every day (I'm a Rank C player online, which means intermediate level). Loved your comment!
man i still can't get over how beautiful animations 3rd strike has...
Big companies don't have pixel artists anymore after they stopped making games with pixel arts.
@@v.d.2738 nice that a lot of indie companies still do unique pixel art though. the risk/reward just aint there for most of the big developers though.
My boy going crazy with those grabs. Thanks for the content Justin you’re amazing.
Awesome to see TM featured here.
Q is my favorite Street Fighter character ever,and seeing him at high level always makes my day.
Dope set Justin,you always one of the goats👌👌
I love me some 3rd Strike. Especially when characters like Q perform. I love Q, Nerco and Makoto.
TM is such a legend
11:20: not a jump cancel. Q is considered airborne during his uncrouch animation so that's why your grab whiffed. You can even air throw him
Q is a really interesting character. Part rekka, part grappler, controls like a rock, needs to taunt to multiple times to access health reserves, huge, slow target with devastating traps and combos .
Huh? He has a rekka?
this is so good man. i can always count on Justin for some top tier 3rd Strike matches.
I love a good Q. I want to see him make a return
At first, I thought it was going to be Kuroda, but then I remembered that Kuroda is as self-destructive as Q's SA III.
Gg’s man. That was a beast set
Woah crazy players over there, GG!
This is a very nice match!
That Kara Command Grab by Q is OD and is very hard to execute, much more to setup it up.
From a Japanese tutorial video that I watched, the best players really set it up from an air to air hit near the corner. Also, the usual cue they're going to do it is they suddenly crouch from outta nowhere.
I hope you fought KUNI as well on your time in Japan! That I wanna see.. 😀😀
The Mario 64 sounds during taunts killed me
Favorite street fight character, dying to have him back in 6
6 is bad unfortunately, Q or not
let people have fun
I don't comment a lot but thank you for uploading videos against Q. I think he's a fascinating low tier character and watching magicians work him against you (You who I consider is the gold standard of fighting players) is always amazing.
That is the kind of ad I can get behind. A game I have never heard of with rollback and crossplay, you are good at this Justin Dubyah!
My best friend mains Q and always gives me a run for my money. Great set
Again with that Kuroda bait!? You're evil Mr J!
11:32 If I remember correctly, this is a "bug". When you crouch, there are frames where you cannot be thrown. It's as if you duck the throw. 10 years ago, TM was known to do this, and the timing is so specific that the other players could not do it as consistently as he. Not even Kuroda could do this as well as TM. I remember this coming up a couple of times in GGPO chat when the whole lobby would spectate the pro players.
always great to see you post videos like this, Justin
I love when players uses low tier characters and show what can they do, it's so much fun.
the beauty here is that Q is deemed as the lowest in the tier list yet is capable of a lot of things, which shows you that the low tiers in 3rd Strike are a menace in their own right compared to other games where low tiers are just...bad picks.
"That set was legendary,"
Congrats J. Wong!!🔥🔥
Justin, you already fought the best Q player during SBO 3.
The kara command grab is hitting from so far he's almost using it as a footsie tool.
NGL really hoped you guys had a last round match, but just because you don't find these kind of matches anywhere else. Soooooo goooood. Let's go Justin!
Q is most likely my favorite character in 3, and I wish he would get more love. G was amazing to have though!
Those Mario 64 red coin sounds at 6:53! *chef's kiss*
You mean kuroda? TM is goated, but y'know
TM hitting Mr. Wong with the inspector gadget fr
6:52 I love this move!!! 😁
Love your videos Justin. All the Gods in fighting games as well...much love from Houston TX. I wish our arcades were popular here :'( I need to find a spot
I would love to see the look on peoples faces when you walk into an arcade. Its probably as close to a real life DBZ episode as you can get
That command grab is deadly!!
11:20 its not jump cancel tech, its more simple than that. Q has throw invul frames during his crouch animation, so there are some good OS that beat throw and meaty low
"Actin' like you won't get command grabbed!" Said Smug somewhere. XD
Cgrab spammed! Good bouts! TM right up there for sure. Cheers J.
Another great set. Loving these Japan matches. Hope you go every year.
“My super barely does damage!” Chun Li’s super still takes 25% life bar from fully armored Q
Finally! I've been waiting to see this matchup!
Imagine being in a dark alley and Q's music starts playing and he emerges from the shadows and grabs you and implodes.
the jump back parry 🤣
thx, it was intense
Dunno man, nearly EVERY Q Player on this channel have been awesome and deadly!
That was crazy, the distance from the grabs...
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIIIIS LETS GO
There's a nice way for Chunli to do some nice damage . Usually you do medium spinning bird kick quickly ram hk into hyakureskyaku . IT comes out very fast . You deal more chip damage or you surprise him with some damages.
Man J Wong always fighting the best players!
Kuroda is the ultimate Q player
The best Q player for my is kuroda he won you in a sbo laughing and he also won all team USA in a sbo too 5 players destroyed
TM is the legend of the kara command grab. I've seen the man do 4 of them in a row without his opponent being able to do anything. Also I love how he taunts at the beginning of the round like 80% of the time lol. You always know it's TM if the Q taunts as soon as the round begins.
This guy knows all the gimmicks of this character. Nothing to be surprised of someone who’s been playing this game for years.
Sick fucking set. Man, you guys both played great.
That max range jumping mk to that grab is scary bro
god, Q's throws just LOOK brutal. just straight up rocket punches the opponent in the air
This was a good fight J. These sets were fire!
Remember when you fought Alan in Colorado at Akebara? That was a hell of a fight
“I’m pretty good at blocking” is the biggest understatement of all time
He beats you up, then takes you in for questioning
Can’t wait for the Tominaga video :O
random question
@8:47
We can see Chun walking back so i guess Justing holding down the back direction on joystick. and we also see Q is charging towards Chun with attack. But we don't ever see Chun get in block animatiıon. Why is that? Isn't the player supposed to get in block animation while holding back direction when opponent has active attack frames regardless of the attack could reach the player or not?
3rd Strike does not have proximity guard so you can always parry out.
@@comeonclarkman thanks
boy was going crazy in Japan and got hella content. I respect it tho since the best are over there
Why do I get Mr.X vibes from Q from the RE 2 Remake 😁😀
Great set J
I’d love to see J Wong fight Kuroda, another one of them Q madmans.
He did in a tournament
wow impressive that kara command grab he going full horror jason lol.
Q has a glich with his crouch to stand animation, think he is classed as airborne briefly so cant be thrown, but can be air thrown. Saw it recently in a TheoryFighter short.
everyone knows it's not profitable but sheeeeesh there's always something hype about seeing a Q
Man...TM is scary af
Another awesome set, thank you
I could watch high level Third Strike until the day I die.
This guy is making Q look as good as his character design.
11:40 this the Q glitch! not a jump cancel. i think frankie or one of those guys have a video on it.
one of my greatest useless abilities is i learned to kara throw with Q on keyboard consistently, my fingers hurt
Maybe I'm too old school but Kuroda is always #1 Q in my heart
Too bad about Kuroda.
Kuroda!!
The mystery of Q remains... Hope they include him in SF VI... Those throws are really hard to read and I know that Justin really hates throws.. makes Q look like a grappler
Good job Justin you won against q he's really good I definitely enjoyed the matches
Thanks Justin Wong I really appreciate you so much I enjoy your matches keep up the good work
daamn down to the wire!
He Kara micro stepped the Kara while karaing the command grab
is not kuroda?
Where i can find these match source? Can't find on the arcade's live channel
Q match always good it’s must watch
Is this on an arcade machine emulator or something? The graphics look amazing.
That distance was ham.
With all due respect; this guy is definitely not the best Q player in the world.. there is another Japanese player named Kuroda who probably would have put up a much better fight than this dude; would definitely love to see you play against him if the chance ever arises. Kuroda is like the OG good Q player. Before I saw him, I didn't even think it was possible to be good with Q. He has some excellent highlight footage here on youtube. (Just read through the rest of the comments and really glad so many other people recognize him.. lmao)
TM is a legend. The fact you don't know him shows you don't follow 3S. Kuroda was the 1st high level Q but he's no longer the best.
@@comeonclarkman nope, guess I'm too old school.. lol
The best Q will always be Kuroda. He is the progenitor of high level Q playing.
Justin... ya probably should've updated your Breaker Collection ad... since this video came out long after you did your arcade run of the team mode lol
Do you have a list of your top 10 one vs one fighting games? Im not a big fan of the 2 vs 2 and 3 vs 3 jump out and save you. Lol i like 1 vs 1!!
Why do I keep getting jumpscared by the UI theme XD
I remember a MUGEN char of Mr.X based on Q and daammm 10/10
Greatness
Insane set lmao, good lord