Audi & VW DSG Transmission Service DIY - VW MQB - 02E Transmission
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- ►Performing an Audi & VW DSG service doesn't need to be a complicated task; instead, it's one you can do at home in your garage.
Last week, BMW Catalog Manager, Gareth Foley reviewed four tools that will save you time and frustration the next time you want to go change your oil on a DSG transmission. This week, Gareth also reviewed a DSG Service Kit that we put together for your DSG 02E transmission. Today, he combines the two together.
In this week's DIY, Gareth shows you how to use those DSG service tools to install the DSG oil filter service kit for a quick, clean, and easy installation!
DISCLAIMER: @20:37 - Gareth mentions turning the car OFF, the final level should normally be set with the car ON and running.
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Everything I’ve heard in the past is that the vehicle must be running while doing the final drain with the level tube. ?????
Thoughts? Any certified VW mechanics here?
It should be kept running as it stops circulating with engine off and will dump too much oil
i hve never done this with the car off🤔 ...the car suppose to be runnin on the final check !!
Your are correct engine must be running. Without running you will remove to much oil. His work is done but not correctly according to the official elsawin procedure. And he his a racing mechanic............
Instablaster.
Thats the exact question that i had . Vehicle has to be running while doing the final level check????.
I love my DSG, around 183,000mi now on it with regular service
What year it's yours?
@@dannymartinez8522 2006!
What were your major repairs I'm thinking of getting a mk6 lol
So I've got an a3, mkv based. I did actually have the FSI cam follower problem, I didn't know about the follower back then. But the transmission and a lot of aspects of the car have held up better than average.
New drinking game - every time he says "go ahead", take a shot.
Supposed to keep the engine running when you drain the excess fluid...
Since you shut the engine off, the DSG pump stopped circulating oil. You let more fluid out than you are supposed to.
it's insane how bad these "how to" videos are....and alot of people trust that it's correct. =/ (The quality of the video is good, but the info wrong)
I find it funny there are no good info from VW how to service their cars, without paying for their own program that costs a small fortune for a private person, but i guess they love all the bad info going out to people, making em buy a new transmission and engines when they do the service wrong xD it's sad really...
That's very nice explained. Thanks.
Good luck!
I thought it was bring it up to 35c temp, leave it in park with the engine running and let the excess fluid drain?
Yes you are correct. Engine must be keep running, place in Park, and then let excess fluid drain. Was able to confirm this in the VW service manual.
@@123cuizine The engine doesnt have to be running. The reason why the engine runs is to bring up the transmission fluid temp. to 35-40c, this is when the fluid will expand and the excess will drain onto the the pan from the snorkel. The whole idea of the engine running is to bring the fluid to the mentioned temp. However I could be wrong.
@@mkefayati473 comment facts not guesses. Read the service manual.😉
@@123cuizine Service manuals often say to do shit that makes little sense, no one does this. It's bad enough you have to disassembly so much shit in the engine bay to get to the filter and that the filling method is awkward and jankey, but fucking around with heating the oil to some stupid magical temperature for no discernible reason just adds even more delay. The practice of entirely ignoring this is based on essentially ever example I've seen is completely ubiquitous and is not causing any discernible issues.
@@mkefayati473 Engine needs to be running to continuously pump fluid through trans while draining excess. If you shut the car off, all the fluid that is in the filter, pump, mechatronics unit, and all passage ways drains back into the bottom of the trans and will drain out. Fluid level in DSG must be checked while engine is running, that is per VW Factory Service Manual.
FCP Euro also corrected there mistake and listed it in the Description.
If you shut the car off and drain excess, there will be around 4.2 liters of total fluid in trans, the 02E DSG requires around 5 Liters. The DSG Filter housing alone holds 1/4 of a Liter alone.
Great video. Will be doing this next week.
Let us know how it goes Brian , hopefully you got your lifetime service kit from us ^.^ !
Very good How To. Ok, oil change here is more involved than older cars, but this vid should guide you thru the procedure ok.....provided you have the gear! Otherwise, it shows why DSG oil change is more expensive than normal gearboxes without DSG.
Video is great, but part where he sets oil level is wrong.
Read the manual for chaning oil, but out of curiosuly watched video too and somehow picked up that he set the level while engine was off.
After good week gearbox started to whine a little bit more then usual. 3rd gear was really really notable. Somehow remembered that oil that came out of gearbox when I was setting level was suspiciously a lot. Didn’t drive car much more, put 1l more of oil, set up level as it should be done. Car took around 900ml!!! Whine basically went away, it’s only notable on lower gears when decelerating.
Hope I didn’t do any damage to my gearbox or haven’t hurt it’s longevity. I shouldn’t, but paranoid in myself still reminds me this.
I would suggest taking video out of youtube, or putting some notices on title of the video. Watched this video on TV do didn’t seen comment section. Even sadder that FCP still kept this video intact, even some people have reported and they actually pinned comment pointing it out.
I have a similar Meyle DSG filter I have installed but noticed that it didn't exactly "click" into place, should I be worried?
My 2016 jetta is coming up on 40000. I want to do this service myself but don't have the equipment to tell me the temp of the transmission oil. Would it be possible to do this service on a hot day when the temp is 95 F or a few degrees above?
Thanks!
I never changed dsg fluid before should I still do it
How many miles on the car?
If you have to ask YES every 40,000 miles.
Hi...so I dont have no scanner to see what the temp is on my transmission abt how long would u say I should leave the car on for????thanks.
ARS GARAGE Just buy an OBDeleven Bluetooth Scan tool for $60, it will show everything on the trans including trans fluid temp
If you wanna be really jank you can use a human infrared thermometer as it should be able to read up to the specified vw temp lol
I don't know but this literally doesn't make sense.
1. You unscrew the plug oil drains (meaning there is an excess)
2. After you fill the new oil you have to over fill it, warm it up (to expand the oil) and drain the excess
How the hell is there an excess of oil in the first place. It cannot magically increase in volume
That’s the fluid that’s in the filter and passages and the reason for having the engine running while doing the initial level check.
The 2nd drain plug has a hole in the center. When u pull the main plug. An excess overfill drain through the 2nd plug hole. Thats why fluid stops draing when main plug is removed. The 2nd plug sits above the fluid level.
45 n meters I read 33 ft/lbs
battery , negative first ... are you sure ?🧐
Yes, always disconnect the negative terminal first.
@@fcpeuro yes I agree to disconnect, but he s reconnecting négatif first
Which Dewalt model do you have?
It's an older brushed 20 volt 1/4" impact which can't be bought anymore. The current equivalent is part number DCF888B which is brushless.
just put back the same amount of fluid
Great video on this service. I wish I had seen before I did mine 6 months ago. Stressful fill! Now wondering if I need to pull the drain plug an make sure I'm not overfull. I guesstimated the transmission temp..
“We’re gonna give it a 2 finger torque spec.”
Hey Guys How bout taking a threaded plastic plug n drilling a small hole in it and putting a 4" Digital Probe Turkey Thermometer in it... then screw it into the trans then run it till the cooking probe says 100 Degrees + - or so does this sound logical
How do you run it through individual gears? When I my foot is on the brake it won't go out of first with the level or paddles.
Engine must be running???
Very informative, great video.
Book says : While engine RUNNING! That video is not correct
Hi can you tell me the difference between
g 052 182 a2 - 6 Speed DSG Oil $52.86 Per Lt
g 055 529 A2 - 7 Speed DSG Oil $79.51 Per Lt
Prices are In Australian Dollars :-(
Are there any aftermarket brands for g 055 529 A2 specificaiton ?
im trying to find a cheaper quality substitute aswell
How long did it take for trans to warm up?
What would happen if you didn’t drain the extra oil out? Would it do damage to gearbox?
I generally don't know.
but think about it, before you change the oil you drain the excess. After you fill up the new oil you have to drain the excess...
Uh yea would over pressurize and and damage mechatronic unit
I'ma go ahead like and subscribe
Was quite surprised how dark that fluid is. Normally its much lighter isn't it? When I followed your instructions, the oil that came out was no different colour than the new fluid! What causes darkening of fluid? Is it heat or debris?
Through time the oil gets dirty and the detergents are doing it's thing
How much do they charge at the dealer or independent shop for the DSG transmission service?
Dealership is around $500
£199
$299 at dealer. Some dealers can be $400+
I called bunch around me and dealers are from 400 to 525. Indi shops are 300 to 500 depending on area and if you use Moli vs VW oil. I think taking it to reputable place that gives warranty for their work is key here. Too expensive to take a chance with.
Thank god I kept mine running
Check the torque specs. The service manual for my Golf says 20 Nm on the filter housing (vice 25 in this vid) and 45 Nm on the drain plug (vice 65 in this vid). DAP video has same as what I found.
Hi! Nice job! If i don't have this "temperature screen device", may i check the oil temp. from bottom of the gear box? With laser meter..? Isn't it about same temp. than oil inside the box?☺
I was trying the same, but changed my mind and bought a cooking thermometer kind of a metal pin and a digital readout and measure the temp of the partial drained fluid. Also, when you fill it up with exactly 5 liters and drain 0,4 L that would be good as well.
@@hesseldijkstra5327 how much is 0.4l?
IR thermometer on the transmission box should be close enough as aluminum is great heat conductor
What if you don’t have a lift? I have a jack and also ramps. If I use the ramps, the car would be at an angle. Would it still drain okay if it’s not completely horizontal with the ground?
Hello, do you know anything about front differential maintenance? They say that it should be changed every 60,000 and regarding the dsg dq500, they sold me 7lt, do I only use 6? Or if I put all 7 in when emptying, will it only throw more? Thank you!
when the car is turned on and you're running through the transmission PNRDS...also the 1,2,3,4,5,6? and should you keep it there for a few seconds in each? Thanks. Your video is super helpful.
Isnt it bad to remove these batteries in these cars? Don't you have to reset things after wards with a scan tool? I have a 2015 Audi A3 when you drained the excess fluid for final level was the car running or engine off?
is this a DSG 7 speed that an audi a3 8v has?
Dsg 6
Why didn't he leave the pump set up in place, start the car and continue to fill until it starts to drip at 35-40 Celcius then remove the setup and put the plug back on?
Please give estimate how much DSG oil remained in the car after you finished 🙏
So should there be no oil coming out at the initial drain plug removal if it was a level?
What exactly do you mean Paul? When you initially remove the drain plug there will be quite a lot of fluid that comes out. After you refill the transmission and get the fluid to temp, you'll have to check the level once again afterwards and some fluid may come out again then.
@@fcpeuro you don't see it don't you?
After you filled the new oil and drained the excess there should be no oil draining at any time you unscrew the main drain plug
@@Matttski Perhaps this the difference between draining the new fluid level WITH the engine running versus the engine off. With engine off the oil in the filter and other areas of the transmission will seek the pan or lower part of the transmission. Likely higher than the fill insert. That oil will drain when pulling just the drain plug. I would guess if you pulled the drain plug with the engine running, none or very little will come out. Make sense?
I have a 2012 VW CC. The power train on this vehicle is extremely poor and the worst I have ever owned.
Buy from FCP Euro do not buy from ECS Tuning, they supply this CTA Tools pressure filling system to me, shipped from USA to New Zealand without the compression twist adapter, unusable and a key part of the tool, I cant just go and buy a "compression adapter" from the local hardware store, they shipped me this faulty item all the way from USA and now ive got to pay the return shipping cost, plus my car is unusable for approx 3 weeks I assume as ive already started the service, it all looked fine all my parts that arrived till I went to fill the ATF Fluid, how shocking!! DONT BUY THIS TOOL FROM ECS TUNING.
You could have just filled from the filter housing hole with a correct diameter hose and funnel. Less mess and money.
Can you do a transmission service on a 2018+ Audi Q5 2.0T???
Thankyou
Great video do you have the link for the adapter with the adapter with compression fitting???
"Gotta build some vacuum pressure"..... ummm what?
Poor guy, FCP get this guy a fan!
How many minutes did it take to bring the transmission oil up to temperature, reving the engine?
Is it about the same process on mk 6 Golf? Thanks
Would this apply to a mk5 r32?
Yeah if it’s got dsg
@@w5kky its an r32. Its dsg lol
Hi, great video! Is it needed to reset the DSG oil service with the diagnostic tool?
vaccum? you mean pressure.
is dq250??
If I do this service when the car is rather warm or recently driven, would it be better to drain the fluid first and then remove the filter ?
Always make sure your fill location works out before you drain. You never know.
Best explained
What about leaving the battery off for too long? Aren’t things reset?
Eventually there would be a loss of memory and some adaptations if the battery was either disconnected or left off for a long period of time, but in the time it takes to do this service it would not be an issue with the TCU.
Great explanation, enjoyed it
9:49 lol dont we all love it when that happens hahahahaha
hahaha, good catch, vproduction! Isn't it always fun working on cars 😂
Thx
Perfect explained 👍🏻
I have a 2018 Passat GT. Will the DSG capacity and process be the same?? Great video man!
I have a GT too and just reached 40k. How was the process man ? Im planning to do it tomorrow
@@gavinthind3058 hey man! It’s pretty much the same. I’ve done the service twice now. Only thing I would recommend, if you can spend the money (if you are keeping the vehicle for a while) get a fill pump and adapter kit that screws onto the drain plug. Makes this job way easier. Also, make sure you have the vehicle as leveled as possible and for the love of God. DO NOT tighten the filter housing with a breaker bar. That thing is pretty sensitive (busted one while tightening it).
Liqui Moly is a good oil for DSG?
Yes: Pentosin (OEM/ factory fluid), Liqui Moly 8100, or Motul Multi DCTF are great choices. Redline has a DSG fluid, but I haven't heard much about it.
Great vídeo! Thanks to share !
You're welcome, Erik! Glad you like the video!
Excellent work !
it's actually wrong thou.. you should keep the engine running when doing the last step of getting the oil level correct. it will leave abut 0.5L more in the gearbox, this is the correct way if you check VW service manual.
Best DSG service vid
Glad you like it Albert!
Nope, it is not correct !
Great video. I was rewarded with a one-take f-bomb at the very end for watching the whole show!
How do you run through the manual gears with the brakes on???
you dont, you just go throu Park, Reverse, Neutral, Drive, and then back again, about 3 seconds each, and when you done that, you can just Leave it in park and w8 for it to get to between 35-45C, when you drain the fluid, you should have the car running(In park) , it will make the gearbox keep about 0.5L more oil then if the engine is shut off.. and that is the correct way to do it if you look in the VW service manual.
From a DIY point of view for getting the oil upto temp let's say you have a cold engine and ambient temp of 20°c how long of idling to get upto temp would you say?
Hard to say, Martin. But oil will definitely get up to temp quicker with some gentile driving vs just idling the car.
Between 20-30 minutes idle.
profi.alles gut.smart guy,excellent job,great technician.