I had a permit 10 yrs ago and rode for 3 yrs, got pulled over 4x at least - never asked about a permit or class M license once. Sold the bike.. Just bought a new bike, rode off my drive way and the cops busted my ass, now I have tickets coming in the mail.
Thank you for this video! About one year ago, I got my permit and searched up endless things online to prepare as much as I could for my test…winter hit so I had to wait, but I just went ahead and passed my test with flying colors today! Both the figure 8 and the slalom were most certainly difficult, I have to admit. Seeing me riding a 96 Honda Shadow, my instructor actually gave me a “slightly bigger box” than the regular one used for figure 8’s. I just thought I’d throw that in there for anyone else taking their test on a relatively larger bike! Good luck to everyone here waiting to take their test, and BE SAFE everyone!
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! I have been looking for exactly what skills were required for the PA test for MONTHS to no avail! Lol I have my skills test this morning!🤞
@@westonlieberum1 I DID!!!😁 I only had to do the figure 8's and the cone weave (he put out 5 cones), no shifting and stopping on a line. I wonder if that was because it was raining? Either way, FINALLY after 2yrs on a permit I'm official! Thanks for asking😊
This is cool my brother. We always had dirt bikes as a kid. I had to sell all my bikes to get my first car. That was 35 years ago! I'm 55 now and just bought a 1995 klr250 dual sport to take camping and fishing up in the mountains. Never had a license and just got my permit.
LMAO was wondering if the Greensburg DMV has those markers as I don't remember seeing a box. Completely forgot they turned that thrift shop into a DMV. Now I know exactly where to go practice. Thanks!
That’s such a short test it’s surprised me. Once I pay off my 3 year loan on my car I’m planning to get my permit then a license and probably a bike soon after. Hopefully it all works out!
It’s really about slipping the clutch dragging ur rear break just went and practiced for four hours I did it and feel confident I test Thursday so will see what happens. If u put ur foot down once it’s a fail or more than once
I passed first try I wasn’t able to take it when I made this message my registration was expired so after 3 permits I’m licensed 😂😂 thanks for the vids
Isn't it odd the first thing they have you do is something that has precisely zero to do with operating a vehicle on the public motorways? Anytime I went and drove figure 8's anywhere it was asking for a "YOU DAMN KIDS!" moment.
Hey man im taking my test in a month and am wondering if they do a visual inspection of your bike. My rear tires low on tread and dont know if i should get it changed before i go. Thanks
Thanks for making this video I can use different angles now and I’m gonna buy some cones before my test on Thursday, it’ll be my third test I’m losing hope. I got a 2020 r3 and the instructor said the turning radius is bad on it 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks, do you happen to know the dimensions of that rectangle box ? I don’t live close to a MV Center to practice but I could chalk one out in a empty lot 🤔 and practice.
I’m honestly not sure I’m sure somewhere on here will have the answer www.dmv.pa.gov/pages/faq%20pages/motorcycle-permit-process-frequently-asked-questions.aspx
If the scooter is over 50cc you need a motorcycle license. If you take the motorcycle safety program and pass you get a license and don’t have to take the test at the dmv
Hey man quick question so I'm 23 I don't even have permit so I'm going soon to take the test and get my motorcycle permit. When they issue me that I can drive my bike to work right by myself. I don't need a license to drive by myself. Nor do I need to pass a driver's course correct once I get my permit I can drive by myself
Not sure if you still need to know but I don't believe so. I'm pretty sure you need to already have a valid driver's license (here in pa at least) to even get a motorcycle permit so the "learning" phase is already done.
No but in PA you have to have a drivers permit before you Can get a motorcycle permit you cant take the motorcycle permit test if you dont at least have a car permit they wont let you I tried
Does anyone know if you have to be fully suited up to take the test? Ngl I ride without pants, jacket and gloves and I don’t feel like buying them just to take a stupid 3 minute test
Your permit is only a question test so no actual driving, at least when I went..so I listened to the audio book of the manual while at work the day before my test and on the day of, I googled practice tests and took them until I got all the questions right 3 times in a row...whatever works you is best but that's what I did👋
you will have to lean the bike a lot while leaving your body upright. feather the clutch and you can use the rear brake a little bit to stabilize the bike as well
I realized one night that I wanted a speed bike and I almost dropped 10 grand on one when I realized that I don't have a motorcycle license or riding experience
You can do it on any bike once you get the hang of it. if you’re having trouble, lean the bike a lot while keeping your body straight up. feather the clutch, rear brake, and throttle to keep your balance. check out motojitsu on youtube he has a bunch of low speed videos demonstrating
@@maddoxb.1779 well my instructor seen me practicing when I came in so he knew I had it down literally only made me do 2 stopped me told me to go down come back up shift in to second then down shift do the weave and stop on the dot in the middle of the box
@@maddoxb.1779they will let you go bigger sorry for late response it also helps if you practice when they are showing up to work they saw I could do it and test came and did like 2 fig 8’s had me continue go down then cone weave shift in to 2nd gear stop on dot
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I found the real trick for that figure 8 is to get a little more speed so you can lean a little more and counter balance the bike.
Actually 5mh is plenty enough speed.
@@AkaBullyeah but you can make it even tighter around 8-10mph
I've ridden dirty for 15 years. Glad I found this video. This is the exact center I'll be going to.
I had a permit 10 yrs ago and rode for 3 yrs, got pulled over 4x at least - never asked about a permit or class M license once. Sold the bike.. Just bought a new bike, rode off my drive way and the cops busted my ass, now I have tickets coming in the mail.
same bro lol
riding dirty for 15 years but a TH-cam video made you up & change ur mind yea somehow I find that extremely HARD to believe
Thank you for this video!
About one year ago, I got my permit and searched up endless things online to prepare as much as I could for my test…winter hit so I had to wait, but I just went ahead and passed my test with flying colors today! Both the figure 8 and the slalom were most certainly difficult, I have to admit. Seeing me riding a 96 Honda Shadow, my instructor actually gave me a “slightly bigger box” than the regular one used for figure 8’s. I just thought I’d throw that in there for anyone else taking their test on a relatively larger bike!
Good luck to everyone here waiting to take their test, and BE SAFE everyone!
did they check your bikes inspection?
Permit expires 3 months after you get it. Did you have to renew it?
This was helpful I'm a new rider in PA .. thank you for this content
Anytime, glad i could help!
The test in Oklahoma is waaaay different. They clip a radio to your chest and they follow you driving around neighborhoods giving you directions.
that sounds like the correct way to give a test... fuckin figure 8 over here 🙄🙄🙄🙄
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! I have been looking for exactly what skills were required for the PA test for MONTHS to no avail! Lol
I have my skills test this morning!🤞
Glad I could help! And good luck!!! 🍀
@@westonlieberum1 thank you!
Did you pass?
@@westonlieberum1 I DID!!!😁
I only had to do the figure 8's and the cone weave (he put out 5 cones), no shifting and stopping on a line. I wonder if that was because it was raining?
Either way, FINALLY after 2yrs on a permit I'm official!
Thanks for asking😊
@@alisonmarusak3137 this gives me faith for mine! I have mine on the 23rd!
This is cool my brother. We always had dirt bikes as a kid. I had to sell all my bikes to get my first car. That was 35 years ago! I'm 55 now and just bought a 1995 klr250 dual sport to take camping and fishing up in the mountains. Never had a license and just got my permit.
Dude, do not feel bad at all!I got mine @40
LMAO was wondering if the Greensburg DMV has those markers as I don't remember seeing a box. Completely forgot they turned that thrift shop into a DMV. Now I know exactly where to go practice. Thanks!
Just for everyone to know for the Jeanette dmv. It’s always the small solid white box. The bigger boxes are for trikes
Hey thanks! This is exactly where I’ll be taking my test :)
I've heard different things about being 18 or older in regards of just the permit. What is like the rules of it being 18 for a permit?
Hey thanks for the video. Do you know if the test is any different if I am riding a 150cc scooter?
No it’s the exact same
Do you have to wear jeans or boots or gloves to take the test can you wear sneakers n no gloves
That’s such a short test it’s surprised me. Once I pay off my 3 year loan on my car I’m planning to get my permit then a license and probably a bike soon after. Hopefully it all works out!
Go for it you won’t regret it!
What bike are you riding? I definitely gotta practise those skills
Cbr500r
Taking this in Jeanette on Friday. Couldn’t of found a much better video😂
How’d it go?!
@@westonlieberum1 passed it👍🏻
Congratulations
@@mk7_gti44 I'm taking my test at jeanette on Saturday. Was it pretty much as shown on the video? Need to use turn signals? Thanks
@@joematy he got it pretty much spot on make sure to follow traffic laws in the parking lot
It’s really about slipping the clutch dragging ur rear break just went and practiced for four hours I did it and feel confident I test Thursday so will see what happens. If u put ur foot down once it’s a fail or more than once
I passed first try I wasn’t able to take it when I made this message my registration was expired so after 3 permits I’m licensed 😂😂 thanks for the vids
@@milessandersisabeast2641 I just passed today
Isn't it odd the first thing they have you do is something that has precisely zero to do with operating a vehicle on the public motorways? Anytime I went and drove figure 8's anywhere it was asking for a "YOU DAMN KIDS!" moment.
What do they do if your motorcycle is an automatic? I just bought a Honda pcx 160 and that’s what I’m using
I assume it’s still the same test
I was also curious about this!
you cant take it on a automatic
I have a Yamaha warrior 1700, do you know what box I would be doing the figure eight in? This dmv is right down the road from me
I’m not sure I would assume they would let you do the big box but I cannot guarantee it.
ok so question if im over 18 and i have my permit is there another written test or is it just a practical test?
I might have to take a ride there, I'm not far away in Delmont.
I lol’d when you said this was the Jeannette dmv. I knew it looked familiar. I’m right down the road in Latrobe.
I'm not far either in Delmont.
That's funny I just moved from Latrobe to Blairsville
Hey man im taking my test in a month and am wondering if they do a visual inspection of your bike. My rear tires low on tread and dont know if i should get it changed before i go. Thanks
I know they check reg, inspection, and insurance. I’m not sure but I’d recommend getting a new tire before taking the test just in case.
Weird question I live in pa too, where are you at? Was the DMV good?
This is the Jeannette DMV it’s a good test center
@@westonlieberum1 ok thanks
bought my 87 Goldwing on friday the 13th and this video has 666 views :) oh boy what could go wrong on my cross-country trip in a week
How'd it go? :)
Thanks for making this video I can use different angles now and I’m gonna buy some cones before my test on Thursday, it’ll be my third test I’m losing hope. I got a 2020 r3 and the instructor said the turning radius is bad on it 🤷🏻♂️
Update: I passed! Tip to anyone out there struggling just use 2nd gear doing the figure 8’s. Thanks again
Thanks, do you happen to know the dimensions of that rectangle box ? I don’t live close to a MV Center to practice but I could chalk one out in a empty lot 🤔 and practice.
30 by 35
@@westonlieberum1 , thanks again.
@@hurricanebillbass1 I just went and measured this Jeannette one this afternoon. It’s 30x50
Thanks
@@westonlieberum1 no its 28ft wide 45ft long
Yo Jeanette? thats where I got my C Class drivers licence. Saving up for a GSX250R than I want to get my M Class Licence also at Jeanette
This dmv is right up the street from my house! Haha . We need to go ride!
I travel rt30 to work every day I’m definitely up for a ride!
Jeannette
My bike is kind of loud you think theyll give me a hard time ? Lol it's not deafening but aftermarket exhaust tip yanno
I wouldn’t imagine so but I’m can’t guarantee. Also make sure all the lights work
Quick question can I have my drivers permit and
motorcycle permit at the same time? about to turn 16
in a few months.
I’m honestly not sure I’m sure somewhere on here will have the answer www.dmv.pa.gov/pages/faq%20pages/motorcycle-permit-process-frequently-asked-questions.aspx
Nah you can’t, at least not in PA. I tried and I had to have my junior license in order to get a moto permit
@@spectre.112 You should be able to
yes you have to have drivers permit before you can get motorcycle permit
whats a good motorcycle to start off with for the first time?
grom
It depends there’s a lot of good choices depending on how confident you feel and what type of riding you would like to do
its impossible to get the msf with my current work schedule so i think im gonna be stuck doing this
How big is the box . Do you know the dimensions?? I don’t have the option to practice after hours as I work a lot and my center is like 40 miles away
20 by 60 feet
Question for the permit. Do you need a class c license to apply for a class m permit?
Yes I believe so
No but you have to be 18 or older and do 65 hours before you're skills test. Otherwise you can schedule the skills test right after the permit test
no but you need at least class C permit in order to get class M permit in PA
If i take the Motorcycle safety program, do i have to do the driving test? Do i need a Class C to get a scooter only license?
If the scooter is over 50cc you need a motorcycle license. If you take the motorcycle safety program and pass you get a license and don’t have to take the test at the dmv
I got my permit in just that exact location. Doing the BRC course a little ways up the road tho.😊
Z&M?
@@westonlieberum1 Boyce/CCAC with TotalControl
@westonlieberum1 Also I passed yesterday. :)
Hey man quick question so I'm 23 I don't even have permit so I'm going soon to take the test and get my motorcycle permit. When they issue me that I can drive my bike to work right by myself. I don't need a license to drive by myself. Nor do I need to pass a driver's course correct once I get my permit I can drive by myself
Yes you can ride by yourself. You can’t have a passenger and can’t ride after dark are the stipulations
@@westonlieberum1 and I need is to pass the question test correct
I just need to pass the question test and I can ride correct??
Yes
Yes only 2 restrictions no passenger no riding at night
Do they still have the course class in PA wheres it located?
Yes they still have MSF courses on the dmv website there’s info about them
Is it like a car test where you need a certain amount of learning time or amount of time you need to have the permit?
Not sure if you still need to know but I don't believe so. I'm pretty sure you need to already have a valid driver's license (here in pa at least) to even get a motorcycle permit so the "learning" phase is already done.
no
is it still the same in 2024?
Do you have to have a drivers license before u can get a motor cycle license?
No
No but in PA you have to have a drivers permit before you Can get a motorcycle permit you cant take the motorcycle permit test if you dont at least have a car permit they wont let you I tried
Does anyone know if you have to be fully suited up to take the test? Ngl I ride without pants, jacket and gloves and I don’t feel like buying them just to take a stupid 3 minute test
Only thing required in PA is eye protection
I know this video is like 9 months old, but this is the Jeannette dmv testing center right?
Yes
@@westonlieberum1 just took my test there today! Thought I recognized the surroundings haha
Does ape hangers effect inspection?
im also in pa, what did you do to practice before you took your permit test?
Your permit is only a question test so no actual driving, at least when I went..so I listened to the audio book of the manual while at work the day before my test and on the day of, I googled practice tests and took them until I got all the questions right 3 times in a row...whatever works you is best but that's what I did👋
Same
@@sentinals4440 this helps thank you!
@@lilb1ff glad to be of service
they have a app that gives the same exact questions as the real test
Bro I just can’t get this down. I ride a 2022 Harley Davison street bob 1,800 CC and the square they give me is half the size you are doing this on
check out MotoJitsu on youtube, his videos might help you!
you will have to lean the bike a lot while leaving your body upright. feather the clutch and you can use the rear brake a little bit to stabilize the bike as well
you in jeannette? i'm in new alex. lol.
How big is the box for the figure eight. Thanks.
28ft wide 45ft long
Just curious is this the Jeannette pa DMV?
Yes it is
If its this easy then I I definitely need to get my permit and buy a motorcycle.
Cab you ride by yourself in ny on a permit? I live right on the border.
Pennsylvania motorcycle permit only works in PA unfortunately.
@weston graham actually you can ride in NY but you have to be accompanied by a licensed rider
Wow this is literally 15 mins from me, about to get a bike and gonna be getting a permit.
Best of luck! Its so worth it.
How big is the box anyone know?
So I have a gsxr 600 ur saying it’s not possible?
It’s definitely harder on that bike than a more entry level bike but it can be done
I don’t no man I was doing good the other day I did ok tonight for the little I could practice cars are right next to the box parking so stupid
@@westonlieberum1 are they hard on u will the maybe give me more room? I test tomorrow
You can always take msf course and get proper instruction for free
That's the DMV I got to. In Jeanette
I realized one night that I wanted a speed bike and I almost dropped 10 grand on one when I realized that I don't have a motorcycle license or riding experience
It’s definitely a bigger learning curve than a car
Is that the Jeannette one ?
🤣 nvm lmao I watched the whole vid
wait you cant ride out of state with just a permit?
No.
no or at night
I’d be afraid to like fall sideways on the bike
Dimensions of that box?
28ft wide 45ft long
Looks like the Jeanette pa building
It’s is
What is the size of the box
I was failed for not having my visor down
I did mention my girlfriend failed for that exact reason
I know Jeannette when i see it. Lol
Man I just can’t get it down
What type of bike
You can do it on any bike once you get the hang of it. if you’re having trouble, lean the bike a lot while keeping your body straight up. feather the clutch, rear brake, and throttle to keep your balance. check out motojitsu on youtube he has a bunch of low speed videos demonstrating
I personally wasn’t able to do in on my 650 when I took the test but now can. Counter leaning and repeated practice help alot
It’s a automatic fail if u go out of the box
depends on instructor & bike
Check out be the boss off your motorcycle page🤙🏼
I passed my test
Anything different from this video?
@@maddoxb.1779 well my instructor seen me practicing when I came in so he knew I had it down literally only made me do 2 stopped me told me to go down come back up shift in to second then down shift do the weave and stop on the dot in the middle of the box
@@milessandersisabeast2641 I have a Yamaha road star warrior 1700. Which box would the let me use?
@@maddoxb.1779they will let you go bigger sorry for late response it also helps if you practice when they are showing up to work they saw I could do it and test came and did like 2 fig 8’s had me continue go down then cone weave shift in to 2nd gear stop on dot
Just call out the r6 like that
Lmk when your borrowing my 500 to take your test lol. Or come to the MSF with me this spring so we can save on our insurance
Can I take this on a scooter? 😂
on a Grom you can
Hold up. That’s it???? For real??? There ain’t no way that’s all.
Yeah, that’s literally all there is to it
Forget manual. Take the test on a scooter.
Lol that’s one way to do it!
Do u pull ur clutch in the whole way and drag ur break
I slip clutch and drag brake try both ways or a combination practice whatever works for you