Carrier RTU Start-Up From Hell

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ค. 2024
  • I have never seen so many things wrong with 4 new packaged units. I guess we can see why they costed more to manufacture when they were made in the USA.
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  • @jaymartin5095
    @jaymartin5095 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Thank you for taking us along. I know it is extra work for you, but it really adds value to anyone trying to learn.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s what I’m hoping for.

  • @sterlingarcher46
    @sterlingarcher46 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My goodness the wiring on a brand new unit oh boy !
    I don't pretend we make anything better over here , we all have our own issues but them wires dangling everywhere with no conduit , no protection not even zip ties ? That's just mind blowing to me !

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you guys make much HVAC stuff? I know I’ve seen a boiler but that’s about it. I don’t see much of anything made in France around here except high end clothes type stuff.

    • @sterlingarcher46
      @sterlingarcher46 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@HVACRSurvival There are a few companies , RTUs , AHUs boilers etc but most have been bought out by the big guys .
      Trane does have it's EU factory over here though , they make chillers for the EU market .

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have no desire to see the Eiffel Tower, any of that stupid shit but I would like to see some of the different things that are done over there like some of the different plumbing fixtures, door locks all kinds of weird stuff that I don’t get to see here, which I see it in some videos. It’s just funny how things can be different when on a global scale. And I don’t mean any of that in a bad way, you should know how I talk by now.😅

  • @jerzyaheardz6939
    @jerzyaheardz6939 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Thank goodness Carrier moved all their factories out of America, it really improved their quality and quality control…..

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Bingo! I cut out what I said about it.

    • @Kevin-wj4ed
      @Kevin-wj4ed หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's all about profit not quality!!!!!¡¡!

    • @Joshuatimmons1783
      @Joshuatimmons1783 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Their residential split units and package units are still made in Tennessee

    • @Guyhakverdi
      @Guyhakverdi หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Joshuatimmons1783they suck too

    • @BartlettTFD
      @BartlettTFD หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Carrier apparently uses the Boeing quality control handbook.

  • @rayraap3905
    @rayraap3905 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    After seeing this video, I would think twice about buying a carrier. Really enjoyed this video.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It’s sad 😞

    • @Joshuatimmons1783
      @Joshuatimmons1783 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Their residential split units and package units are made in Tennessee so they are good

  • @Paul-IE-Repairs
    @Paul-IE-Repairs หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @14:40 i like how all 3 fans are set at a different depth, by just looking at the shaft protrusion difference

  • @watermanone7567
    @watermanone7567 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Boy has Carrier gone downhill since I did service work 20 years ago. I don't know who is good anymore? They must spend a ton of money fixing their mistakes in the field. Thanks for a great video.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for checking it out!

  • @jasonjohnsonHVAC
    @jasonjohnsonHVAC หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The quality of that equipment seems questionable at best. You did better than most do, thats a fact. These manufacturers seem to have abandoned quality control all together. Just installed and did a factory start up on a Trane Intellipak yesterday. It was put together nicely, but it definitely wasn't without its issues. Another quality video. PS.....I enjoy the rants....you are speaking fir many of us without a public following

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Oh, I should make a private channel where I leave all that in because that was nothing lol there was a lot more

    • @gabbertje2811
      @gabbertje2811 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with the lack of build quality.
      In January 2022 I installed a Trane CXAF heat pump and then assisted the Trane technician on the startup.
      The startup went relatively uneventful but the engineer already scratched his head a few times because Trane had changed some things including a poorly documented lockout input.
      One of those things was that all four crankcase heaters were connected to a single relay and got switched off as soon as the unit went into run.
      We already guessed that this was going to cause problems but it was designed this way.
      Out of the 4 compressors they already replaced 6 🫠.
      The first one went within 72 hours. The second one (on the second stage) went as soon as the first one was replaced.
      They also had to replace the main control board and had to come back at least a dozen times because of lockout situations of different kinds.
      We took the 5 year maintenance and warranty plan so not too much worries on the repair costs but the downtime is very annoying and expensive. We had to make sure we always had heat so we were forced to install an additional heat pump and backup gas boilers which had cost us around 40K to do.
      After 2 years and 4 months we're still experiencing trouble with this unit 😔

  • @retsbew8954
    @retsbew8954 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great job, Rick! I’m glad I’m not the only one experiencing this nightmare 🥴

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😅🤣👍👍 thanks!

  • @fshn76
    @fshn76 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sad that you spend that much money on a unit and still have issues. I have had my Jumper King pretty much since day one and love it. Makes it so much easier to troubleshoot. Good video Rick. Have a great Memorial Day.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was good, thanks for the support!

  • @christiansommer914
    @christiansommer914 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Uncle Rick for the save..
    Yesterday I was trying to explain my apprentice about the filling chart with the line.. Now he can watch your video..
    Great video and keep being you, love the you explain things..
    BTW. About the drain, looks US standard, but don't you ever use drains with the little orange ping pong ball.. Then it doesn't matter if the drain dry out, because the ball will prevent air from going in the to wrong way. And filling the unit with water.. Not sure if this is the case with RTU's but it is on big ventilaton systems.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I flooded a ceiling thanks to one of those junk traps. I put it back together wrong😟🤫🤦. Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @PeteGaughenbaugh1
    @PeteGaughenbaugh1 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Whoever decided to use zone dampers on sock duct is going to regret it. Those things need to be set up for the fans to run constantly during occupied mode. If the fan is allowed to cycle on and off with the call for cool/heat then every time that zone kicks on, it’s going to sound like someone cracking a bull whip as the zone inflates the duct.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe they're set to ramp up real slow? they are ECM after all, so I assume there's a setting for that, as well as continuous circulation.

  • @theangrytechnician6649
    @theangrytechnician6649 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On the fence with that jumper box, but your video may help make the decision easier. As for the resistance substitution box, it’s an old idea. Trane has rolled out Symbio 700 for the Voyager units, and it’s all Bluetooth. No more jumpers. Great video as always Rick. Thanks for sharing.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s interesting about the Bluetooth box

  • @gordonborsboom7460
    @gordonborsboom7460 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I would like to think the equipment problems were unique to Carrier and an assembly plant, but it probably is an industry wide situation.
    Excellent decision to get the Carrier warranty.
    Excellent video. Hope your drive was relaxing. It looked like beautiful country

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was a good drive. I wish I could have shown more.

  • @subcoolHVAC
    @subcoolHVAC หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thanks for bringing us along and reassembling Carriers units for them. A little QC from Carrier could save a guy a lot of time in the field. 🇺🇸

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very true!

    • @dashcamandy2242
      @dashcamandy2242 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Too bad you can't send an invoice to Carrier. After all, if you're doing _their_ work, they should be paying you for your time!

  • @marcoselgaucho1106
    @marcoselgaucho1106 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fantastic work men!! Thanks.

  • @rickr6908
    @rickr6908 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for taking us along. This was very interesting.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @matth5309
    @matth5309 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Build quality is on par with a 2024 model year vehicle 😂

  • @josephconway1968
    @josephconway1968 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Rick. Another great video. Another great example of why I say you are a difference maker!! Love that opening guitar riff too!!🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @user-jw1ee6wl1c
    @user-jw1ee6wl1c หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice thorough job as always. If only all techs were half as good as you..

  • @user-mk3np8wi8z
    @user-mk3np8wi8z 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hoooooly Cow man. getting out one to get into the other. Great work. Thank you.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the support!

  • @PeteGaughenbaugh1
    @PeteGaughenbaugh1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rick, I just did a replacement of 32 Carrier RTUs. The same mixed air temperature sensor was broken in the same place on 11 of them. Thankfully, they were nothing more than a SPST “safety” that wet could put a jumper across to make work.
    Some that had electric resistance heat kits (field install) came with wiring harnesses that didn’t fit anything, anywhere and had to be rewired to work at all. Same unit model, same heater model, didn’t know from one to the next what’s working or needed redone.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I cut out a lot of my feelings on how this thing was built and designed. We are a Carrier dealer so it really looks bad, but whose fault is that? We didn’t build it. 🤔 I didn’t call Carrier out like I did Mitsubishi….at least far as you know 🤫🤫😂😂

    • @PeteGaughenbaugh1
      @PeteGaughenbaugh1 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @EverythingHVACR
    @EverythingHVACR หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great start up Rick! Unfortunately you have to double check everything these days. Lennox Humiditrol I started up recently was a better piece of equipment than most of the others, but Carrier does dehum better.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I gave you credit for the sub-base idea.

    • @EverythingHVACR
      @EverythingHVACR หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @HVACRSurvival I heard and appreciate it. Top notch skills going through these units, if more people put in this effort or just pick up a small piece of what you're doing here, the Trade will be better for it 👏

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Steve!

  • @RSBot2jar
    @RSBot2jar 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for sharing this one!

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pleasure now but not then. 😎✌️

  • @MethodicalChristian
    @MethodicalChristian หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hope all of Carrier corporate views this video, appears their quality control needs a lot of work.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, they’ll just probably get mad at me for exposing it, not that that was my intent. People don’t usually see the real benefit from if they’re guilty of not putting 100% effort in

  • @baylifehvac991
    @baylifehvac991 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah the jumper king is a beast
    Best tool ever!
    Blessings!

  • @Ted_E_Bear
    @Ted_E_Bear หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome video !

  • @bmillwood6666
    @bmillwood6666 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Take them charging chart stickers and throw them in the trash. Thats my opinion.

    • @EverythingHVACR
      @EverythingHVACR หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's facts, in my opinion. Those probably work great in perfect laboratory conditions 😆

  • @terryh8421
    @terryh8421 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I enjoyed the video Rick. Thanks for posting

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @henningquast8456
    @henningquast8456 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I must say, I’m really surprised to hear and read all the issues with the newer Carrier equipment. Since I’m from Germany and mainly work Chillers I’m not really familiar with Carrier package units (only their chillers which have a god awful controller). I‘m mainly dealing with manufacturers like Ciat, Galletti and since about a year now all our new chillers are Skadec, which is a German company who really go all in on quality. It of course has its cost but they are really thought through, high quality units and also highly costumizable. They offer gliding free cooling, heat recovery, inverter controlled Bitzer or Bock reciprocating or screw compressors and a freely accessible controller.

  • @joeg3218
    @joeg3218 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree, that brand cut many corners!! My school apprentices tell me on the residential line on that brand how horrible the quality is. boards bad right out of the box. Missing parts. I had a unit where the condenser fan blades would fall off....

  • @MikeB9771
    @MikeB9771 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the video Rick, you convinced me that the Jumper king is worth it when i seen it in this video. I have seen it used to find low voltage shorts as well.
    We too have guys that complain about having to work past 4, i work til the job is done. I get paid no matter what time it is, for us anything past 4 is overtime which is nice.
    Agathanks for the video, damn shame you had to be quality control for Carrier, gueas someones gotta do it.

  • @MariosACandRefrigeration
    @MariosACandRefrigeration หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nice work Rick.

  • @zekenzy6486
    @zekenzy6486 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. Thank you for sharing. Have a nice weekend

  • @D_Nice981
    @D_Nice981 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel your pain Rick on this start up. No quality effort in manufacturing equipment anymore

  • @lavina58
    @lavina58 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video, thanks 🙌👍👌😊🍀🙏

  • @FPHA697
    @FPHA697 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video brother! Very sad to see this quality especially when the customer spends that much money on that equipment. That’s for video and your time.

  • @ConnorCoultis
    @ConnorCoultis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think that charging chart means liquid line temp when it refers to outdoor coil leaving temp. So essentially its a subcooling chart just 10 times harder to read than if it just said subcooling, lol.

  • @gtpforever
    @gtpforever หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my jumper king.

  • @ryanisaacson118
    @ryanisaacson118 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im going back to my snyder general unit or my typhoon units that im still repairing 50 years later

  • @MegaDesna
    @MegaDesna หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Made me like the video when you reseated those transformers connectors

  • @Luzgar
    @Luzgar หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A see management have been inspired by the Boeing school of though.
    I wonder how this is going to end.

  • @kennethney4260
    @kennethney4260 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thats really sad condisering what these units cost. Right after some of the lighting manufacturers moved to mexico we started finding empty mexican candy wrappers/boxes inside the fixtures

  • @johnwalker890
    @johnwalker890 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good job Rick.......

  • @nathanhurst5155
    @nathanhurst5155 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Phenomenal video Rick. Quite a shame that ya pretty much had to redo properly all the stuff the factory should have done to be gone with.

  • @elBusDriverKC
    @elBusDriverKC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the Zebra stat. It works well and all but it's bigger and doesn't have any fancy connections and didn't come with magnets. I had to JB weld some big magnets on it because it's pretty weighty. It does have built in activity checker (which can let you know if the thermostat is calling for heat / cool etc...).

  • @thesilentonevictor
    @thesilentonevictor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good job Rick

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙏🤜🤛👍👍

  • @Josh.SPublishingTeam2024I
    @Josh.SPublishingTeam2024I หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hmm just from the title i know that startup didnt go well, love you vids rick! I draw these type of units so i learn about them by watching you, i want to get a job as an HVAC technician

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome, what kinda work are you doing now?

    • @Josh.SPublishingTeam2024I
      @Josh.SPublishingTeam2024I หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HVACRSurvival i am just 12yrs old, i draw & make youtube videos on H VAC

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude that’s freaking awesome! My TH-cam statistics show me that most people watching these are between 30 and 45 years old. 99% male. It would make me feel really good if I was to influence younger people to consider going into the trade. It doesn’t cost a lot to go to school and you don’t even really have to go but the money that we are paid now because we are in such high demand is unreal. I make more money than most people with bachelors and some people with masters. Thanks for reaching out Josh ✌️🤜🤛

    • @Josh.SPublishingTeam2024I
      @Josh.SPublishingTeam2024I หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HVACRSurvival yeah no problem rick!

  • @Gcanno
    @Gcanno หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you .

  • @JOSERization
    @JOSERization หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I work for a Carrier Commercial Service and yup some start ups are good some are nightmares 😂

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s sad 😔. I remember in the 90s when Lennox left Grove city outside of Columbus Ohio. They were the first to move away. Like I said it’s a race to the bottom, they try to cut cost at any cost to make the most money. In the end, no one has a good job to buy their products and everyone loses.

  • @kennyw7453
    @kennyw7453 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That factory has some great QC.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep. I said that a few times but cut it out, I figured people would see it non verbally.

  • @bbasham46
    @bbasham46 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙏 Thank you very much! I really appreciate your support! You probably would’ve liked the full video that was over 2 hrs prior to heavy cutting.

  • @jrsmyth9761
    @jrsmyth9761 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    High and low settings for the economizer is only available if the Jade is set for 2 speed fan.
    When there is only one set point available, then Jade is set for single speed fan.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That makes sense. Kinda weird it wasn't set up for that with it being ECM. I didn't have time to read over the manual this day. But I just did a Siemens controller recently and I believe it said to set it for single speed.

    • @jrsmyth9761
      @jrsmyth9761 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, it does seem odd that it was not factory set for 2 speed fan!!! Everyone that I have done has been 2 speed from the factory.
      However, with the crap you found on those units, it's no surprise.
      As for the Siemens, went to the Carrier dealer gathering and they were promoting them.
      Seems like they are a combo of Belimo and JADE.
      I think the neat thing is the ability to have NFC via the app and have saved set ups. Then all you do is upload the save settings to the control.
      I believe you can save multiple set ups.

  • @EverythingHVACR
    @EverythingHVACR หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yup, thats a Carrier, quality control is spectacular. @carrier need a quality control manager? I know a guy 😅

  • @rugged1987
    @rugged1987 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fed up with carrier as of late, constant failed venter motors, ghost intermittent pressure switch failures, overcharged circuits from the factory list goes on

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I felt the same way here.

    • @renj6531
      @renj6531 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      we keep getting control boards dying . its almost like they have a time of the year for things 1st quater skimp on compressor quality, 2nd electronics 3rd Motors and leave screws loose

  • @Mr1337sheep
    @Mr1337sheep หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That quality is hilarious, what does a new unit like that cost? Whatever the price is, it is way too high for that level of fuckery.

  • @LOCOLAPTOP
    @LOCOLAPTOP หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, I was thinking going Carrier after my 2007 R22 Trane dies due to cost, I don't think it's worth it now. I just wonder if Trane also went down hill as well, I would assume so since almost everyone has.

  • @Luzgar
    @Luzgar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not worker training and no QC.
    That's going to make them loads of money (for a very short while).

  • @tm80notgoodwithnames58
    @tm80notgoodwithnames58 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's always great to see some quality equipment! why are those contactors different sizes between them, and in the last one 2.stage is smaller? shouldn't the compressor be a bigger one...

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The freezer compressor was larger. Normally there would have a 40 amp contractor. But the one was a 60 amp.

  • @helmsajr
    @helmsajr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job Rick. Carrier units made in Mexico big mistake trying to save a dollar no quality contol. lol

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I cut out what I said because I have a lot of those people watching my videos. It’s nothing against them. It’s just the way it is, I’m not saying the Americans try any harder, but I guarantee you carrier units weren’t this bad when they were in Indianapolis.

  • @gtpforever
    @gtpforever หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Eastern Ohio? Holy hell you guys travel way out there. Here i am irritated about a little over an hour drive. 😂🤣😂🤣

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most of my calls are 45-75 minutes driving in the country. 😟

  • @MariosACandRefrigeration
    @MariosACandRefrigeration หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    carrier units have been good to me,just the regular maintenance.I was just wondering,how come you did not adjust the outside regulator to factory specs 13 inches.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s the max input, this was natural gas, not Propain. The normal incoming range is 5-7”w.c

  • @Luzgar
    @Luzgar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    QC must have been on leave that week (or year).

  • @throttlebottle5906
    @throttlebottle5906 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    boy, such great units, it makes me want to rush out and buy a few thousand of them..... 😒🙄

  • @paulpatenaude3208
    @paulpatenaude3208 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Make sure the ball valve is rated for natural gas

  • @jayjaysa210
    @jayjaysa210 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Am i the only one who caught the ending blabber 😂

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably. Most don’t watch the whole thing, look how many people are asking about the duct being insulated. 🤦 it really makes me want to keep making them🤔

  • @RJMaker
    @RJMaker หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whoa, I'm guessing Carrier dissolved the QA department.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It makes me wonder. I don’t believe the price stayed the same or went down when they moved out of the country so guess they must’ve put that money in their pocket? Just like every other company that screwed over the American people.

  • @acrservicesmathewr7565
    @acrservicesmathewr7565 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is now common from there new line of units. Constantly finding poor quality and shipping shortcuts to get the units out the door. They figure it’s cheaper to send them out like that than to find more people to be able to fix this nonsense. Carrier use to be top notch but I would never wanna deal with them unless there providing a new unit. Unfortunately they are widely popular and will continue to deliver quality instead of quality

  • @marcorecinos8629
    @marcorecinos8629 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have issues on a start up that I did on 5 trane rtus. With issues on the 5 brand new units

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s all trash anymore 🤦

  • @ZRock7771
    @ZRock7771 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man! I only buy carrier equipment, im a certified carrier contractor. I've even installed a few of these style RTUs before, I've never seen quality control this bad before on carrier. Lennox 20ton split was the worst I've seen personally.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know it looks horrible but I didn’t have much recorded. Wait till you see an economizer I had shit fits with. Dam Siemens controller

  • @joeskis2690
    @joeskis2690 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Green Carrier > Grey Carrier

  • @Lazy2332
    @Lazy2332 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:03 I’m confused… what is blurred? The book for the unit with the location name on it?

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, I blurred my phone number out.

  • @MegaDesna
    @MegaDesna หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Eastern Ohio eh? Canada here, why did you have to blur out the truck labeling @ 21:21 ?
    I'd build package units with ya ;)

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I keep my employer identity private. Local people know who I am but it makes my company feel better about my videos.

  • @dynastyclimatecontrolinc.9462
    @dynastyclimatecontrolinc.9462 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what are the holes where the zone dampers are located for ?

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would have to go back and rewatch the video, but I might’ve drill a hole so I could see where the damper position was really at.

  • @Luzgar
    @Luzgar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    QC is left as an exercise to the installer.

  • @jeffkablock3229
    @jeffkablock3229 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    well i dont feel bad lol the stuff we get is just as bad been doing a/c and comm refrig for 45 years here in florida i get to retire this year just getting to hot for me im 63 now all the big a/c makers have just gone down hill i found a 30 year rheem running lol see they can build good stuff they just make cheap stuff and sell it to you high

  • @Boodieman72
    @Boodieman72 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Are you seeing any geothermal installations in your area? They built a new high school where I live and all the heating is done with geothermal.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We have a lot of it.

    • @erniecolussy1705
      @erniecolussy1705 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ground source (geothermal) can be great if the engineering is done with data not assumptions. Over 15 years ago I was involved with a project using ground source hydronic heat pumps. They didn't do a thorough evaluation of what the ground temperature was the before the project. It turned out that the aquifer was apparently glacial feed. In operation the supply water to the hydronic heat pumps was in the forties. The heat pumps were constantly tripping when the system was operated as designed.
      That project was a nightmare that had a lot of problems. Some examples are 100% outside air AHU that they value engineered out the heat recovery coils. There was a second floor glass enclosed lobby with no mechanical cooling that they value engineered out the high efficiency glass. And there was back to back double sash variable air volume fume hoods with a single fume hood control damper that the hood face velocity could not correctly controlled as the hood was designed. The hood manufacturer had to redesign and retrofit the hoods. They basically eliminated the separator between the sides. (And we had internal problems. Poor work quality by our electrical subcontractor. And we had a supervisor that threw my coworker under the bus. My coworker did nothing wrong. The problem was the hood design. This delayed the correction of the problem with the fume hoods.)

  • @c21meister
    @c21meister หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks like some munters older equipment was there

  • @diegomartinez-kr8lq
    @diegomartinez-kr8lq หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I been installing for the past 2 years, before that I was a service tech for 4 years. The quality control on these new equipment is un reliable. It feels like u work all day installing a system for something not to work right out of the box

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it got worse when they moved out of Indianapolis.

    • @diegomartinez-kr8lq
      @diegomartinez-kr8lq หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree everything know it’s about quantity instead of quality

  • @jrsmyth9761
    @jrsmyth9761 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Carrier could NOT care less about quality control!!!!

  • @joshpearson1693
    @joshpearson1693 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As much issues you had I would rather carrier than Trane. I constantly have issues with Trane. The other day brand new unit 2nd stage compressor going out on high head.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      New unit? Clean condenser?

    • @joshpearson1693
      @joshpearson1693 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HVACRSurvival brand new unit first time running.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      We sell Trane sometimes, I’ve had some problems with it too. The problem is the mentality of people nowadays, they just don’t give a crap and it shows.

  • @KentuckyReef
    @KentuckyReef หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where did you get the magnet for your iPad?

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s part of the case. If you use my Amazon link I get a commission but you pay the normal price. amzn.to/4bUd9mE

  • @aa999xyz
    @aa999xyz หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    holy cow could they make it any more complex

    • @mitchell8204
      @mitchell8204 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You should see new rooftops versus the old ones. Most brands you can bluetooth into the unit now but there's so many circuit boards.

    • @ryanisaacson118
      @ryanisaacson118 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes they can make it more complecated just look up york

    • @pinolanuts69
      @pinolanuts69 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These units are actually relatively simple, compared to a trane for example

  • @richardbartlett6932
    @richardbartlett6932 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is the ducting getting insulated?

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The exterior ducting was insulated. You can see it on the beginning of the video where I showed fixing the economizer wire. It’s insulated on the inside. Once inside the building, I do not believe it was insulated.

  • @MindzEnt
    @MindzEnt หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's easy to blame mexico but it doesn't really matter where shit is made. We put in mostly Daikin, made inTexas, and we see the same qc issues as brands that are manufactured in Mexico.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that's what happens when everything is always new/changed, vs. same equipment in production longer terms. we wont even go into worker turnover and temp. workers they likely use

  • @laginbro
    @laginbro 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    your intro looks familiar, I wonder where from...?

  • @Menik559
    @Menik559 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mann Willis H. Carrier is turning in his grave right now.

  • @PuddinJr1993
    @PuddinJr1993 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you didn't laugh you'd cry

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      All I wanna do is get pissed off and that's not gonna do me any good. Why should I care more than carrier does? problem is there's really nothing else out there much better.

  • @stevenpollock6342
    @stevenpollock6342 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative 👏 great video don't they insulate the ductwork ?

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they did, I showed the insulation inside the duct when I fixed the wire in the economizer.

    • @stevenpollock6342
      @stevenpollock6342 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh dear good job they didn't send me thanks for replying to a pointless question I do apologise

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      No problem. Do you work for carrier?

    • @stevenpollock6342
      @stevenpollock6342 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No long time ago I worked on the dustbins (HNCE units) they had zone manager controller with a C4 fault ,which meant it had a fault so not a favourite of mine (although very reliable)

    • @stevenpollock6342
      @stevenpollock6342 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry I'm English so dustbins meant trash cans because they looked like them unfortunately I just do splits ,years ago did trane ,lennox and York but compared to what u do I feel very inadequate. Yours videos are great 👍 I can't stop watching them very impressive knowledge 👏

  • @CameronKettner
    @CameronKettner หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It is insanely annoying that measurequick removed screen recording unless you pay for each and every unit. It was an amazing training tool but now it is next to useless to teach others.

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly it would’ve been good advertising for him. I don’t know anybody that’s going to go through all the hassle of having to pay for each individual customer versus just a flat fee per month.

    • @CameronKettner
      @CameronKettner หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HVACRSurvival They are losing out on so much exposure because of the fact now that measurequick can not be shown off and used in videos like you and other creators post, let alone to send screenshots or screen recordings to other techs to teach them or share information.
      There also is almost no reason that the field piece app should require a login, I’ve had issues with trying to use it while in an area without WiFi or cellular service and it is very frustrating.

  • @Boraxo
    @Boraxo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    NEW stands for Never Ever Works.

  • @Freezier134a
    @Freezier134a หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There isn’t a brand I hate more than carrier, it’s not even close, paper thin panels, no quality control, wires run through under the roof, motor flex so pulleys never line up.

  • @Kevin-wj4ed
    @Kevin-wj4ed หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did your company install these units?

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      They replaced the package units and the shiny ducts. The remaining was original

  • @richardbartlett6932
    @richardbartlett6932 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unshielded terminals.. Such bad practice.. How is this still allowed?

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you talking about the terminals or right beside the exposed circuit board with all the components?

  • @ryanisaacson118
    @ryanisaacson118 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    New carrie suck and so do york but the new trains are nice with the symbio and so are aaon

  • @randysmith3828
    @randysmith3828 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Worst part is the price tag of these so called high end units and they all seem to have low end problems and quality. Coils still leak, terrible wire routing, cheap components that fail quickly or right out of the box.

  • @prothermal-ca
    @prothermal-ca หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i am not working with carrier anymore due SIGLER sales prefer deal with "BIG SHARK" companies only, wont sell infinity and preferred series to small companies like me. If customer asking about carrier i always say now carrier is worst quality for its money.

  • @ThePowerofElectricity
    @ThePowerofElectricity หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That is some really crappy quality in the manufacturing of these units...
    If I had gotten these delivered, they'd be right back on the way to the factory within 15 minutes of arriving.
    But what are ya gonna do if they're already installed. Just gotta deal with some manager's penny pinching so that he can get his 2nd Ferrari a day sooner...
    Really great marketing material though. Shows they care about the customer a whole lot

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just another piece of equipment outsourced to another country to be built for less labor. I cut out the part that these people generally send their family members when they don’t show up to work and they don’t know what they’re doing. And this happens at Ford and several other factories that have left my area.

  • @shadowbanned69
    @shadowbanned69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All carrier units suck now....nothing but issues and more issues...had 4 5 ton rtu units all 4 compressors failed 1 year in

    • @HVACRSurvival
      @HVACRSurvival  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s all junk, Lennox, Trane, York, Mitsubishi, You name it, they all raced to the bottom to save money. China parts, Mexican labor. This is what you now have.

  • @steveblake8766
    @steveblake8766 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    846 thumbs up

  • @pomonabill220
    @pomonabill220 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Carrier sure has gone downhill!