Repeating, Spread, or Pulley Crossbow: Which is Best? | Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree DLC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- As I've been playing through the Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree DLC with my Greatsword of Solitude build, and refusing to let go of my offhand-crossbow obsession, I started to wonder if using the Spread Crossbow was actually the best option for status buildup (I know it's definitely at least a viable one). I initially wrote off the Repeating Crossbow because it felt pretty terrible, but despite that I decided to give it another serious whirl, alongside dusting off the ol' Pulley Crossbow to see which of these Crossbows would be the best offhand for building up status effects.
Also sorry about mic volume level on this video; it's way lower than usual, think it's because I had my fan running D:
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0:00 Intro + Explanation
0:48 Spread Crossbow Pros + Cons
2:38 Repeating Crossbow Pros + Cons
4:11 Pulley Crossbow Pros + Cons
5:11 Status Effects Test Explanation + Comparison
6:50 Bossfight + PvP Viability
7:44 The Best Offhand Crossbow
8:46 Theorycrafting + Outro
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I forgot mention that the bolts I used for testing were the Burred Bolts and Coldbone Bolts, which have 65 status buildup each. Also, an updated Greatsword of Solitude build video is on the way! And I'm still using the Spread Crossbow for PvP and invasions, it really is that much better than the Pulley in those situations.
The Repeating Crossbow, unfortunately, just ain't it for me.
It's even more disappointing when you compare any of these to Ansbach's bow.
Though that is a dedicated dex weapon.
But Lexd when are you streaming🤔🤔🤔😩😩😩
@@matthewsteele3463Yeah I've seen some people using that, seems strong lol but I'm interested in supporting my STR melee build with a shooty offhand
@@Magma968we're back on it tomorrow brother
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The issue you and many others are having with the repeating crossbow is that you're trying to use it as an offhand crossbow, when in fact you should be using it on your main hand so you can quickly use its skill as needed; if you need to switch to the greatsword, put it on another main hand slot so it takes less button presses to swiap between the two.
Does it still have issues? Yes, definitely, but it's not nearly as clunky once you realize how awful the offhand crossbow mechanics are and know to put it in the main hand.
While true, you eliminate that extra step of "weapon switching" by using the Spread or Pulley Crossbows since those CAN effectively be used in the offhand. But yeah as you touch upon, the Repeating Crossbow's bigger issues are the stamina drain, FP cost, and super long animation time lol
Since fighting the Blackgaol Knight I fell in love with the whole thing. I went into the DLC with a pure strength build so this was such a sweet surprise. I'm literally cosplaying now haha.
Great video mate. I've also been rocking the pulley crossbow, and sometimes the Bone Bow, as secondary weapons.
Yeah that's how I felt when I respec'd to use all of his stuff too lol, I mean they've all got pretty good stats so might as well!
Pulley is sick, but yes I've actually started incorporating the Bone Bow since it only weighs 3 and let's you make use of a different ammo type (also kinda strong in invasions tbh)
Spread was exactly what I wanted in this game. Now I can finally play as the hunter!
Lol this is real, and even though imo the numbers aren't great for the Spread Crossbow in PvE, it's still a lot of fun to use and it is undoubtedly stronger than the Pulley in PvP. I've bled players in two shots at midrange with the Spread, so I'm glad it can still be considered effective!
I'm running a dagger/ranged build for my SL150 and took a chance on Repeating Crossbow once the DLC dropped. I used the Pulley Crossbow before the DLC and honestly that served me so much better than Repeating Crossbow. Very strangely happened across this video. This is a very specific, and detailed video instance that mirrors my run. I guess I was right to stick to Pulley Crossbow.
Glad you stopped by man, yeah I am obsessed with running a crossbow offhand with my build and I just HAD TO KNOW which was best at applying status effects, and after extensive testing Pulley just performs and feels the best
The big issue with spread is that only ~5 of the bolts can hit a single target (from what I've heard you can see 5 bolts go through the target) and one shot uses 10 bolts. Also, the status build-up is barely affected by the number of bolts hit in the first place, in pvp, it does almost full build-up when 1 bolt hits, in pve, it's ruined by the bolts going through targets.
@@squidblood408 though I haven't seen any exact numbers and testing, from my personal experience what you say seems completely true. I've definitely noticed the bolt-cap when shooting point blank, and it feels very strong in PvP lol
Been loving your Solitude build mate. Lots of fun in both PVE and PVP. Looking forward to the update.
I'm glad you dig it so much man, it's definitely my most favorite build I've played in Elden Ring for sure! Seems like it can do a bit of everything, though the one thing I'd like to slot in would be a parry (wouldn't be too hard with how lightweight the Buckler is tbh)
Man i really want from to buff the repeating crossbow so bad
Its so cool and badass but also soo taxing
AGREED, two changes would make me use it again: One, obviously reduce the huge stamina drain by a significant amount. And two, let me roll out of the Ash of War if it's gonna last that long lol
Great vid ! Thanks for the good work 🔥
Thank you, more to come as the ideas pop up!
Great video!
Thank you thank you!
Great vid!
Thank you thank you!
Excellent comparison video! You answered all of my questions and more! 😊 it’s unfortunate that the pulley crossbow is overall still better than the 2 new ones, but from day one, FromSoft has never really shown any love for bows either, also still no scaling..I was hoping this would be fixed along the way, or in the dlc, I’ll stick with the pulley, thanks for all of your research man, you did a great job!
Thank you! Yeah tbh I think the "no scaling" makes sense since you're basically relying on the Crossbow to do all the work when firing, but yeah the two new Crossbows are a bit lacking compared to the Pulley when it comes to PvE. Spread Crossbow is still my second favorite and I use it over the Pulley for PvP, but Repeating just ain't cuttin it for me
@@lexdtv when I first saw the trailer for the dlc, I remember being really excited to see a new crossbow in the clip, it’s unfortunate that the new ones aren’t better. Also, the pulley bow chews through so much ammo, and that’s only 3 bolts at a time, not 10! Thanks for the reply!
The spread and repeater could be more of a dps. Don’t have the repeater but with perfume, Lightning, or explosive for the damage and AOE that do upon contact with obstacles or enemies.
Yeah I think you are touching upon what I mention towards the end of the video, I think I may try a build that pumps up their physical/elemental damage rather than going for status effects
Hey, i am new to using crossbows. So my question is, is it useful to level up crossbows, since you just want to proc a status effect? Btw, great video!
That's a great question, and I'd say this; if all you value is getting a Bleed or Frostbite proc, upgrading the crossbow is not going to improve its status buildup. However, I always upgrade them because I find that it is a lot of extra damage is added when trying to get these status effects to go off in a boss fight. If anything, you can just upgrade them to +9 or +24 so you don't waste an Ancient Dragon stone on em!
Anyone know the difference between spread crossbow & Ansbach's - Fan shot
is the ash on the repeater bow get powered up by the shard of alexander, and with 12 bolts is that a meaningful amount of damage boosted
I just tested this; it is not boosted by Shard of Alexander or Rotten Winged Insignia D:
@@lexdtv id say thats pretty definitive then, repeater doesn't have much of a niche to fill
3:11 Can't you work around that by equipping the crossbow in your right hand and the sword in your left? With a weapon in each hand, the weapon skill button defaults to the ash of war of the right hand, so you only need to switch from two-handing the sword to one-handing each weapon, one switch instead of two.
That is a good point, but I feel like given a moment's notice I'd rather have quicker access to the Greatsword of Solitude's Ash of War rather than the Repeating Crossbow's if I happen to be one-handing both.
@@lexdtv That's fair, it is after all a fantastic ash of war.
@@lexdtv
You can't use the Solitude's AOW even if you have another crossbow other than repeater in your offhand because of how awful the offhand crossbow mechanics are.
You're better off just getting used to softswapping one for the other as that's less button pressing than switching hands.
The status proc tests seem cut and dry but have you tried optimal dmg testing yet? Shard of Alexander two arrow talismans, spear talisman?
No I have not yet, but I think that's a good idea for another video. I wonder if Rotten Winged Insignia might work with Repeating as well? UPDATE: I've tested the Repeating with Shard of Alexander and Rotten Winged, neither work with the Ash of War D: but I think I'll try another way to bump up the damage...
Shard of Alexander doesn't work on repeating crossbow, neither does Rellana's cameo.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Guess it has to be tripple arrow talisman spear talisman then or double arrow, spear, blue dancer.
@@9Nifty You can use the new arrow sting as well so those 3 and then whatever general damage boosts you can get, ritual sword talisman comes to mind.
You spoiled me with Bayle at 0:33 😢
Ah sorry man, but yeah my videos will feature examples of me using whatever I'm talking about in boss fights. Thankfully that one isn't super late into the DLC
Watching this 2 days after starting my mainhand crossbow/greatshield playthrough and realizing how cringe its going to be
Was also hoping the spread crossbow had massive burst potential. Alas, no fun allowed.
Ey tbh you could just use the Pulley in your mainhand, I've legit killed bosses using the Pulley only. Since it's so bolt-efficient with the status buildup, you can bleed bosses a ton over the course of a fight!
Well the spread crossbow is instant status point blank, most bosses you'll get 3 bleed procs for free which is 40% health gone already assuming you're using all the right talismans.
@@anitaremenarova6662 not always. Like the video says it caps at like 3 or 4 bolts hit, so if theyre the least bit resistant somtimes it doesnt.
Regardless, that is what I'm doing to proc bleed and frost it just EATS ammo like no other.
I just wanted a machine gun for elden ring on console…..
Why the hell can’t Fromsoft do it right? Why does it consume so much stamina?? Why did they arbitrarily reduce the status build up of each shot compared to other crossbows?
I HATE it
go play call of duty
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Lol agreed, I wish they'd cut down the stamina cost and let me roll out of the Ash of War at any time, I think it'd be a lot better if this were possible.
I dont play elden ring,.. but I am sure you are right :P
Yer bettin on a winner
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don't you mean... FIRST? 😎
@@lexdtvlol
@@lexdtvbut also the berserk music ahhahahahahhahahah
Shotgun is best, you can use 2 bolt types and that means bloodbone bolts + burred bolts for bleed.
But the point is that you're using 20 - 30 bolts for a bleed when you could be using Pulley for MUCH more Bleed procs, using less than half the bolts and at similar status buildup frequency. Even if you are landing absolutely EVERY shot and point blank with the Spread Crossbow during a bossfight, you will run out of ammo before the boss dies (which is fine). The Pulley can kill a boss without running out of ammo.
@@lexdtv Not really, any boss will be dead from 20 shotgun blasts to the face not to mention it's way fewer shots and deals more damage outside of status. Pulley is still the best for PvP due to its consistency however for PvE I'd go spread every time.
@@anitaremenarova6662 I mean I went and tested this multiple times lol, Spread Crossbow will eventually take 3-4 shots to proc Bleed after a boss gains resistance to it after the first proc. You will DEFINITELY run out of ammo against most bosses before they are dead, sometimes before their health is even 50%. You'll also miss more punish windows since you HAVE to be point blank for maximum effectiveness, while Pulley can hit from a range. But I mean hey, if you want to use the Spread for PvE use it I ain't telling you not to, it's just not as efficient as the Pulley
@@lexdtv Did you use both types of bleed bolts and all the appropriate talismans? Pulley takes 20 years to klII anything, ain't nobody got time for that now that we have better toys.
@@anitaremenarova6662 as I said in the video, I didn't completely cater my build around any of these Crossbows, and the Pulley performed best out of all of em for applying status effects. I've been able to kill bosses with the Pulley only using HALF of the 99 Burred Bolts you start with, and you just cannot do that with the Spread. You can make your own build video proving otherwise lol but I'm gonna go ahead and stand by the testing I did