Given Rennala's ability to reshape people's appearances, the line saying she "gifted" Rellana with black hair sounds like it could mean she rebirthed her, but I asked Lokey_DS about how the line reads in Japanese and it seems fairly certain that she did literally just give some of her own hair to her sister. A queen or princess granting a lock of their hair to a knight as a favor is an idea I've seen before, so it makes sense here. I got a lot of questions about Rellana's face, but sadly this is all there is to show.
it would be unlikely that Renalla rebirthed Rellana since she only her great rune after Radagon left her and the timeline does not seem to fit, I assume Rellana joined mesmer before Renalla met Radagon
@@garienza No, Messmer's crusade definetely started after Godfrey was exiled. He knows of the Tarnished and since Messmer has been denied any contact with the Lands between since his exile, it means he must have been there when the Tarnished left and only later started the crusade. Which means the Crusade started way after Radagon left Rennala
l feel it was mutual at some point at least. Messmer gifted her a sword which is what Carians do when marrying and we find an item of hers in Mesmers castle
Ok, just to be clear... Rennala was into Radagon while Rellana's into his son, Messmer? Not the weirdest relationship in Elden Ring, but still... The Carian siblings muat be really into that Marikussy.
@@sharif47 Turtle pope dialogue implies that it wasn't known that Radagon had kids with Marika before becoming Elden Lord, when he says that why Radagon becoming Marika's consort is a mystery.
I find it so cool that Messmer was actually a charismatic and kind leader to his own soldier and followers while going to wage a horrible and brutal crusade. Meanwhile Miquella has to forcibly mind control his followers to get along and was gonna do the same to all the Lands Between to create an everlasting peace. That’s pretty amazing bait and switch and story telling right there.
I'm pretty sure in the grand scheme of things the Tarnished is an ignorant villain. Storming across the lands between smacking up everyone for some loot and following the whims of seedy, manipulative actors.
@@HazzardThom Now I'm just imagining all enemies setting up their forts panicking and screaming "HE'S COMING FOR US! HE'S COMING FOR THE LOOT! AAAAH!" whenever they see the tarnished coming their way.
Verily, allow me to transmute this passage Into medieval-laced rendition to fit the setting: "Hark! Thine hair are hereupon flourished!" "Wherefore is sororal brethren of mine absent?" "Whomst did thee believe graced thine blessing?"
A core part of the DLC for me was seeing something cool and wondering when the Zullie vid about it was gonna come out. Great to see another question answered.
I'm waiting for a video showing the difference in height between the highest point and the lowest point in the map, the vertical distances in the dlc sometimes feels absurd like bayle arena and st trina location or the abyss
It's funny because "Irithyll' is taken from Tolkien's universe, Ir = When, Ithil = Moon contextually meaning the Time of the Moon, so when we fight Moonrithyll his name is literally "MoonMoon"
@@TypeCeruleanWell if he is a follower of the moon that follows around someone who witnessed a moon, it may be appropriate to call him a moon orbiting another moon. One of the names for this theoretical ( hasn't yet been seen in real life ) astronomical object being "moonmoon"
@@Fenrir-n2j mogh's body is weaker than radahn's body, and miquella prevented him from going into rage mode in the second phase. he is not prime radahn.
I think it's important to note that her light greatswords are not "night and flame" but "moon and fire", which mean as opposed to the night and flame sword who use the fire of the giant and night magic, Rellana use Mesmer fire magic and moon magic.
I agree. Just like weapon enchantments make a difference between Fire (scale with Strength) and Flame Art (scale with Faith) we need to differentiate Fire and Flame for the same reasons.
Night and flame doesn't actually use night magic, it came from the ancient astrologers and night sorcery was invented far after they were gone, by the nox and sellians
Oh I thought that the sword of night and flame's purpose is recontextualized after the DLC. After all, we find that one in Caria Manor. Not exactly "not where Rellana used to live" 😂
@@HeckYep me too. I have an interdimensional portal in the front that connects to my mouth to further prevent accidentally stabbing my lips while eating
Nah, some people just flock to any banner where's blood to be spilled. In several wars during the XX century there were examples of volunteer units formed from citizens of countries that didn't participate in the wars themselves. Like Norway volunteers that enrolled in nazi ranks because, duh, they thought swastika is cool.
@spottedslash4256 no, messmer himself isn't a bad guy, he was kinda brainwashed and forced to wage this war for Marika, a war of revenge against the hornsent. I like to think Messmer himself was more compassionate and charismatic than Marika (as seen with how he treats the albinaurics, another shunned race that he meets himself and is able to create his own opinion on, without Marika telling him anything) he was just brainwashed into seeing the hornsent as more vermin than people. Marika is pretty messed up
@@TubularBellsRequiem6531what are you talking about, this contradicts his own dialogue when you meet him. He says the player lacks grace and hence must be genocided. Yeah, brainwashed tragic villain my ass.
@@TubularBellsRequiem6531what are you talking about? This contradicts his own dialogue when you meet him. He literally says that you lack grace and must be exterminated. Yeah, brainwashed tragic villain, sure. Nah, he wasn't brainwashed, he was a fanatic prick.
One idea that’s been lingering in my head is that, given how her helmet description makes a point of Rennala’s hair being lustrous and black, that Rellana had bad hair and a slight complex about it in youth. Might have been thin, unruly texture, or maybe the Liurnians prized black hair for being “like the night sky” and hers is brown or such. Just a little detail.
You might be on to something. It makes me think of my sweetheart who is a little embarrassed by her hair. It's very thin, somewhat wispy hair and she refuses to do it up in any way because of it. In particular, she doesn't like to wear her hair back at all because she says "it makes my forehead look huge" (I however think it makes her look really nice, lets everyone see her smile better. ^w^). What I'm saying is that your probably not wrong. I've found that a lot of girls and ladies have issues with their hair, they just don't say much about it.
I know you mean Carian, but I'm cracking up because Ciaran is an Irish men's name. It's like saying having mysterious daughters you didn't intend to create is Mary-ish 😆
@@redwitch95 Oh, I do think they mean Ciaran! She's a knight from Dark Souls 1 who was hinted to have unrequited feelings for Artorias - the "box art baddie" in question.
fun fact: she doesnt actually have twin light greatswords. While the magic one is a light greatsword, accorsing to the item description, the fire one is a straight sword. In game, while pressing r1 while two handing her swords does use the same moveset as powerstanced light greatswords, pressing l1 just swings the fire sword, rather than blocking, and it has the straight sword off-hand moveset.
Oh snap, I've been using them since I got them and I didn't even think to use L1! I'm stuck on the final boss so I'll try it out on mooks before I finally buckle down and beat the final boss. Thanks man!
I always liked how Pontiff Sulyvhan didn't have an elaborate animation for illuminating his blades. Walking in and seeing a tall but otherwise indistinct figure across the hall set your expectations a certain way, before he cool-walks toward you and his blades suddenly ignite themselves in contrasting flames, making for a noteworthy shift in the player's bravery.
I actually think Renna could be that twin lol the Dark Moon likes to hide and she's an adherent of it. Her name starts with an R. Her outfit is in Renna's Rise that was named by Ranni. Renna teaching Ranni in secret with Ranni potentially not knowing she's her aunt is a cool story point. A few things to consider lol
@@DanielGarcia-rx3kt The towers are also called "The Three Sisters." I always found it weird cuz Rennala was the first and last Carian Queen and almost definitely had only one daughter with no mention of any sisters, but now we have confirmation she had one younger sister she almost certainly had another one somewhere.
@@LuciferLucklessYesss!! Exactly we have one more Carian royal unaccounted for - but this does mean that Rellana wasnt completely unhinted at in the base game
You also find the Carian Greatshield, which we know was once wielded by Rellana, in the Shadow Keep, another proof of her link to Messmer. I'd like to imagine her visiting him and leaving her shield as a gift
Leaving the shield as a gift to pick up a sword in his name with his power with an oath granting that power. I say an oath since that's what Radagon gave to Rennala as well. Until he broke it but yeah.
“Her head is a metal potato” I feel like this is a better fate then a lot of FromSoft characters tbh. I mean I just finished AC6’s final ending yesterday and there isn’t an ending where at least two of your friends don’t die.
Par for the course in Armored Core even before Miyazaki joined the company and started directing- there's a reason why the final 3rd Gen game was called Last Raven.
@@nachalnik5738 AC6s true ending is weird, mostly because it leaves a lot up in the air. Not to mention I know FromSoft loves non linear story telling but Igauzu being the final boss just seemed a bit odd. Don’t get me wrong I really liked the fight and Ayre showing up help out was awesome but when I had to take a minute to remember who Igauzu was it just felt out of the blue I guess.
Better to have loved and lost than to never have loved, right? She left everything for him, but if she stayed with the carians she'd have regretted it for the rest of her life.
On her swords; they may share a moveset with twinned Light Greatswords when two-handed, but if equipped in the offhand only, the flaming sword has a Straightsword moveset!
I have been waiting for this video cuz Rellana might be my fav new Suleyvan cosplayer, but I didn’t even think about the Dancer, let alone Cirian. It’s wild to think that they’ve kept the gold and silver blades idea running in three of the last four Souls games (also once again, DS2 is just being quirky and different)
@@KyokujiFGC "Yeah Fromsoft should sue these lazy asses !!!!!!/?.§!!!" What's inherently wrong with reusing animations ? Explain it to me with all your game developper insider knowledge, random internet whiner.
Hey, unlike Marika who's always playing 5D Chess, the Carian princesses are much more proud to have feelings, probably because it's a matriarchy. Whereas Marika, it's Might Makes Right, and everyone likes strong muscle men like Godfrey (Who's great). But when looking at the values those two houses cherish, Carians come off as much more human, much less bloodthirsty, and infinitely more civilized. Like, their women actually love the dudes they marry. Compare that to Marika marrying whichever Lord serves to give her more followers... She has to appeal to the lowest common denominator and not in a good way. Miquella was gonna do things better, combine the values of those two houses once more, but look how that turned out....
So Rellana gave up everything chasing after a man. Rennala is so broken when her man leave her she just gave up on everything. I'm seeing a pattern and now i'm worry for Ranni's future.
Her biggest tragedy is the lack of cutscene, and that beating her literally just unlocks a shortcut to an area half of people probably would have accessed
Is there any other way to get there? I'll have to check again but I don't remember there being one. Far as I know she's standing in front of the only path.
@@sanguillotine At least Godrick had a Great Rune and like five questlines tied to his defeat. And also Stormveil was a much more elaborate dungeon than Ensis.
I really love those videos, feels like someone tells us the story of Elden Ring as if it was in a Ghibli movie. Probably it's the music doing that, but I appreciate it.
The fact about the lock of hair stands out to me whenever I see fanart of her, though I don't have the heart to reach out and umm actually their rendition of her like that.
I love the format of your videos! So calming, love that I have to read and not listen to a rambling person spitting facts, it's like warming to my heart
Sword for a Ring how very Carian of her. But its flipped. Rennala gave Radagon the sword (just like Ranni does to the player) for the ring(I guess she got one we don't really know). Seems like Rellana was the one who proposed to Messmer and he accepted by gifting her the flaming sword.
Actually, by closer look on the details of the ring you can see Marika‘s emblem on it. So I wouldnt think it was gifted from Rellana, but more a sign of his devotion to his mother, Marika.
@realnarouchan true, but from what we know of carian marriages, the women give the spouses a sword as proposal. If messmer gave Rellana the sword, he's technically the wife
Rellana was deeply in love with Messmer, and followed him into the Realm of Shadow. It was a love that he could never reciprocate, and eventually the desolation of all that she gave up and all that she would never have destroyed her. That’s why she has no dialogue, no cutscene. By the time that we encounter her, she’s basically gone hollow.
Reminds me a story of Raistlin Majere and Krysania from Dragonlance, where she eventually resurrected him but he was too hell-bent on continuing his mewing streak to love her back.
I love this interpretation, also to add to it maybe ymir had a hand in helping her despair along while he was scheming to honor something beyond the full moon.
thats why she is ready to whoop our asses as soon as we come to Castle Ensis. The only satisfaction she has left is combat so she makes sure if we are looking to kill messmer we're gonna have to go through her and that we have to work for it
Amazing video and im glad we get more carian lore! Wouldve loved an opening cutscene to her fight, maybe looking at the black braid of her sisters hair sadly before noticing the player
1:09 actually the fire sword is a straight sword as indicated by its move set. well dual wielding the swords the R1 move set is the light greatsword power stance, the R2 is the one handed like greatsword R2. & the L1 combo (in which you use only the fire sword) is the straight sword move set.
This came up on Twitter last night and you were the FIRST place I went to see if someone had revealed Rellana's face. But there was nothing. And then just three hours ago, here it is! I knew I could count on you. Best Souls analysis in the game!
I remember seeing a bunch of people talking about how Renalla was actually light haired for some reason. And the dlc gave us an armor piece that says look at Renalla's long dark hair.
I love this channel cus in game I'm usually just tense and terrified, and then I fight for my life against something, not having the time, oportunity or will to appreciate it fully - I'm getting demolished so, coming here to see who they were... it's super interesting! :D
Thing is, Rellana is specifically named the younger sister. Though technically twins can be designated that way too, Elden Ring doesn't specify that they're twins. For example, we don't know who the older is of the twins Miquella and Malenia so chances are this applies to the Carians too. Meaning there might be a third Carian royalty whose name starts with an R that is an adherent of another moon... In other words, Renna. I think it's possible the Three Sisters in Caria Manor aren't a reference to Ranni and her siblings but rather Rennala and her younger twin siblings Rellana and Renna.
Would be weird if a flame Lord was that cold. But really though, it's not like no witches in the real world don't fall in love with the devil... Just saying.
Her weapon has a unique moveset which I personally value more than being meta (Fromsoft can easily change numbers on a weapon with any patch). I beleave her twin swords are the only melee weapon in the game with a left handed attack in place of the block.
Makes one wonder WTF was going on in the DLCs development that some of the stuff in here came out abrupt and half-baked, both in terms of lore and lack of boss cutscenes and dialogue.
As much as I love every Soulsborne game, that's kinda the case with all of them besides Sekiro. The rush to rearrange assets and reconfigure mechanics late in development has had pretty obvious effects in every game. See the cut Archstone, the Dragon Butts of Izalith, all of DS2, Kos and Ebrietas switching names and making Micolash's dialogue confusing, Sulyvahn having no cutscene or dialogue (plus iirc his model was originally called Aldrich and located in the Kiln as final boss), and finally Elden Ring adding entire NPCs and quests in free updates because some stuff just dead-ended unexpectedly on day 1.
I initially read the title card as "Her Head is a Metal Hero" because she looks like Kikaider, the titular hero of the popular tokusatsu show of the same name. "Metal Heroes" was a popular subgenre of tokusatsu in the 80's, in case anyone was wondering... I'll just see myself out now. 🤦♀️
Her lore honestly feels like fanfic. Never before heard twin sister of Rennala who's name is Rellana who is very important, but gets absolutely no introduction or anything and there is no mention of her after that and may as well be filler. It kind of feels like From threw her character together just so SOTE has a dedicated Mage area and boss for main plot.
We never found out anything about Renna, and she has one of the three sisters' towers. I don't think it made sense that one of the Towers was named after Seluvis, so maybe it originally belonged to Rellena
The area where Ranni stays is called the Three Sisters, so it's most likely Rennala,Rellana, and Renna. Two are taken one Ranni and the Second by Saluvis which is obviously not one of the sisters.
@@elphiefanful Sure but in the base game, important characters get set up before you see them, everything feels like it belongs. Like you read the sword monuments which let you know about Malenia and Radahn. The DLC lore feels completely separate from the base game, under the convenient guise of "Marika hid the land of shadow away" which leads me to believe the DLC wasn't planned until after release. It was definitely a letdown from a story/lore perspective for me.
Zullie, I hereby offer you my firstborn in exchange for Messmer's cutscenes from other angles. Hell, maybe even just a closer look at his phase 2 ballerina pirouettes. This is a prayer of desperation.
Given Rennala's ability to reshape people's appearances, the line saying she "gifted" Rellana with black hair sounds like it could mean she rebirthed her, but I asked Lokey_DS about how the line reads in Japanese and it seems fairly certain that she did literally just give some of her own hair to her sister. A queen or princess granting a lock of their hair to a knight as a favor is an idea I've seen before, so it makes sense here.
I got a lot of questions about Rellana's face, but sadly this is all there is to show.
Probably the “head” thing is just there for technical reasons. Fromsoft loves to put needless details on stuff, but even them have limits /:
it would be unlikely that Renalla rebirthed Rellana since she only her great rune after Radagon left her and the timeline does not seem to fit, I assume Rellana joined mesmer before Renalla met Radagon
the pair sowrds that she is wearing are not greatswords
Marika did the same thing as a token/gesture to the Shaman Grandmother in their home village
@@garienza No, Messmer's crusade definetely started after Godfrey was exiled. He knows of the Tarnished and since Messmer has been denied any contact with the Lands between since his exile, it means he must have been there when the Tarnished left and only later started the crusade. Which means the Crusade started way after Radagon left Rennala
I think the biggest reveal Rellana brings is that all Carians seemingly have a critical weakness for moody red heads
Don't we all
brb going to buy hair dye and cocaine
@@vera39440 leave the cocaine brother youre fine 💀
And some of them ARE moody redheads
I've been a Carian my whole life and didn't even know it...
She really saw Messmer and went "I can fix him"
Fromsoftware Games: The only dating simulators in which it always goes badly
The real Carian Queen 😂
She will take on Messmer's foot and a half long snake 🐍
Was looking for this
@@mossy3565save like 2-3. Two AC games and kingsfield apparently.
Messmer be like: "You can stay but no fixing allowed"
She gave up everything, even a cutscene
The real tragedy
If FromSoft hadn't wasted a year making that AC6 game that no one bought we'd have a much more fleshed out DLC.
@@TheCreator919lol, what a short sighted comment. AC6 was great.
@@TheCreator919 ac6 > elden ring
@@TheCreator919Speak for yourself, that game is great lol
2:35 thats her! The lord of the frenzied moon!
Or something like,
the Lady of the Maddening Moon,
the Lass of Pale Satellite,
the Maiden of the Twin Spheres...
Ok maybe not the last one
aaahhh my the stars take the world!
@@youwotboi9288 Or if you're Ymir,
Lord of Merely the Closest Celestial Body
@@delrunplays2903Lord of the Local Hunk of Rock
Lady of Lunacy
The shot with the moon head was a really cool visual
very reminiscent of the Frenzied Flame taking over someone's head.
Ahhh, may the full moon take the world!
May the dark moon take the world!
Lady of Chilling Moonlight
objecthead fans going feral
@@placebounicorn2325
😂😂
It seems not even Rellana’s huge twin moons were enough to get Messmer’s attention :(
My man probably likes dwarf stars 😂
Well duh.
They are to easy to dodge
Some boys are more down with massive snakes
Vision of two handing….
Damn smh
If I had a nickel for everytime a character in a Fromsoft game gave up everything in search of love that was not mutual... I'd have a lot of nickels
l feel it was mutual at some point at least. Messmer gifted her a sword which is what Carians do when marrying and we find an item of hers in Mesmers castle
Ok, just to be clear... Rennala was into Radagon while Rellana's into his son, Messmer?
Not the weirdest relationship in Elden Ring, but still...
The Carian siblings muat be really into that Marikussy.
@@sharif47 I mean, she's younger sister, so maybe wanting your hawt nephew is okay age-wise.
@@viorp5267Also they have coupled shields
@@sharif47 Turtle pope dialogue implies that it wasn't known that Radagon had kids with Marika before becoming Elden Lord, when he says that why Radagon becoming Marika's consort is a mystery.
What's under Rellana's helmet is more terrifying than any face
me when i see unriveted chainmail
Like divine beast dancing lion but without cape
That is a psychological reaction…
I think is called or related to Automatonophobia?
It's HEMA accurate.
the pontiff sully treatment
I find it so cool that Messmer was actually a charismatic and kind leader to his own soldier and followers while going to wage a horrible and brutal crusade. Meanwhile Miquella has to forcibly mind control his followers to get along and was gonna do the same to all the Lands Between to create an everlasting peace. That’s pretty amazing bait and switch and story telling right there.
Neat interpretation!
I'm pretty sure in the grand scheme of things the Tarnished is an ignorant villain. Storming across the lands between smacking up everyone for some loot and following the whims of seedy, manipulative actors.
@@HazzardThom Now I'm just imagining all enemies setting up their forts panicking and screaming "HE'S COMING FOR US! HE'S COMING FOR THE LOOT! AAAAH!" whenever they see the tarnished coming their way.
@@HazzardThom Nobody manipulated the Tarnished. MUST...HAVE...ALL...ITEMS.
it's not a bait and switch. In storytelling/literary terms, we call that a foil character.
What’s really strange to me about rellana, is that despite all her lore significance, she still doesn’t get a cutscene.
Really has a lot in common with Pontiff Sulyvan lol.
just like pontiff sulyvahn, sir alonne, gwyn, soul of cinder, i mean pinwheel got one
there seems to be little rhyme or reason to who gets a cutscene
@@uberculex
Wasn’t Pontiff a victim of fromsoft following what the vocal minority of the fans wanted?
@@uberculexThis might be a hot take, but the Pontiff opening is better without a cutscene. Rellana would have been better with one though
Why do people want a cutscene so bad. What would it even have been
doctor: hair transplant was a success
rellana: wheres my sister
doctor: who do you think gave you the hair
Verily, allow me to transmute this passage Into medieval-laced rendition to fit the setting:
"Hark! Thine hair are hereupon flourished!"
"Wherefore is sororal brethren of mine absent?"
"Whomst did thee believe graced thine blessing?"
"I cri evrytiem"
A core part of the DLC for me was seeing something cool and wondering when the Zullie vid about it was gonna come out. Great to see another question answered.
I'm waiting for a video showing the difference in height between the highest point and the lowest point in the map, the vertical distances in the dlc sometimes feels absurd like bayle arena and st trina location or the abyss
Same!
Let's not forget that she has a personal knight known as Moonrithyll as well.
It's funny because "Irithyll' is taken from Tolkien's universe, Ir = When, Ithil = Moon contextually meaning the Time of the Moon, so when we fight Moonrithyll his name is literally "MoonMoon"
@@TypeCeruleanso, twin moon?
@@TypeCeruleanWell if he is a follower of the moon that follows around someone who witnessed a moon, it may be appropriate to call him a moon orbiting another moon.
One of the names for this theoretical ( hasn't yet been seen in real life ) astronomical object being "moonmoon"
@@TypeCeruleanImagine Fromsoft next boss is just some bloke called Guy Chapman or smt
Im pretty sure at least that carian knight is female by facedata
We even fight a Carian Knight named Moonrithyll. Clearly some fan service to the Pontiff fans
This DLC has lot of fan service
Another one is Consort Radhan
For fan who wanted to fight prime Radhan
@@Fenrir-n2j i guess we have to thank the bastard who wanted to see prime radahn
@@heldanl7202 Or curse him, Radahn is hard to kill after all
@@Fenrir-n2j, and don't forget the callback for Lothric and Lorian fans.
@@Fenrir-n2j mogh's body is weaker than radahn's body, and miquella prevented him from going into rage mode in the second phase. he is not prime radahn.
"She knew she was unable to grant him relief"
WELL HAS SHE TRIED????
Try finger but hole
Hell she could grant me relief 😏
Sounds like Messmer never got the chance to impale her twin moons
@@weirdlookindoll 🤨👀
@@weirdlookindoll Good comment
The Carian's can't resist the redheads.
Radahn would like to disagree....
...I have an idea
@@grandpa6065 But he IS the redhead XD
I'm a true Carian, then
I must be Carian.
I think it's important to note that her light greatswords are not "night and flame" but "moon and fire", which mean as opposed to the night and flame sword who use the fire of the giant and night magic, Rellana use Mesmer fire magic and moon magic.
I agree. Just like weapon enchantments make a difference between Fire (scale with Strength) and Flame Art (scale with Faith) we need to differentiate Fire and Flame for the same reasons.
Red and Blue: Electric Boogaloo
Night and flame doesn't actually use night magic, it came from the ancient astrologers and night sorcery was invented far after they were gone, by the nox and sellians
Oh I thought that the sword of night and flame's purpose is recontextualized after the DLC. After all, we find that one in Caria Manor. Not exactly "not where Rellana used to live" 😂
How can she possibly use Messmer's fire if he was unable to give it to anyone?
Chainmail to protect the face is very important.
This is exactly what I wear every time eat with a fork to avoid stabbing myself in the face.
@@HeckYep me too. I have an interdimensional portal in the front that connects to my mouth to further prevent accidentally stabbing my lips while eating
I'd like to think of Messmer as a tragic but charming figure who attracted compassion and admiration alike back when he set out for the crusade.
Nah, some people just flock to any banner where's blood to be spilled. In several wars during the XX century there were examples of volunteer units formed from citizens of countries that didn't participate in the wars themselves. Like Norway volunteers that enrolled in nazi ranks because, duh, they thought swastika is cool.
Many people mistake malevolence as charm . It appears as confidence.
@spottedslash4256 no, messmer himself isn't a bad guy, he was kinda brainwashed and forced to wage this war for Marika, a war of revenge against the hornsent. I like to think Messmer himself was more compassionate and charismatic than Marika (as seen with how he treats the albinaurics, another shunned race that he meets himself and is able to create his own opinion on, without Marika telling him anything) he was just brainwashed into seeing the hornsent as more vermin than people. Marika is pretty messed up
@@TubularBellsRequiem6531what are you talking about, this contradicts his own dialogue when you meet him. He says the player lacks grace and hence must be genocided. Yeah, brainwashed tragic villain my ass.
@@TubularBellsRequiem6531what are you talking about? This contradicts his own dialogue when you meet him. He literally says that you lack grace and must be exterminated. Yeah, brainwashed tragic villain, sure.
Nah, he wasn't brainwashed, he was a fanatic prick.
One idea that’s been lingering in my head is that, given how her helmet description makes a point of Rennala’s hair being lustrous and black, that Rellana had bad hair and a slight complex about it in youth. Might have been thin, unruly texture, or maybe the Liurnians prized black hair for being “like the night sky” and hers is brown or such. Just a little detail.
Now I’m imagining she has frizzy curly hair, that’s cute
Worst helmet hair
You might be on to something. It makes me think of my sweetheart who is a little embarrassed by her hair. It's very thin, somewhat wispy hair and she refuses to do it up in any way because of it. In particular, she doesn't like to wear her hair back at all because she says "it makes my forehead look huge" (I however think it makes her look really nice, lets everyone see her smile better. ^w^).
What I'm saying is that your probably not wrong. I've found that a lot of girls and ladies have issues with their hair, they just don't say much about it.
This theory comes with interesting implications, given all three of Rennala and Radagon's children had red hair.
@@clutchedbyanangel That's because Radagon was cursed by the fire giants
The lock of hair on the helmet, and falling in love with the box art baddie are especially Ciaran-ish
Such attention to detail. They even included the eternal friendzone!
I know you mean Carian, but I'm cracking up because Ciaran is an Irish men's name. It's like saying having mysterious daughters you didn't intend to create is Mary-ish 😆
@@redwitch95 Oh, I do think they mean Ciaran! She's a knight from Dark Souls 1 who was hinted to have unrequited feelings for Artorias - the "box art baddie" in question.
@@spacenaves ...who knew I had completely forgotten about Ciaran? And now I'm just baffled/amused by Miyazaki for this choice, lol.
Rellana is such a sweet lass, trying her best to help Messmer even if to no avail.
fun fact: she doesnt actually have twin light greatswords. While the magic one is a light greatsword, accorsing to the item description, the fire one is a straight sword. In game, while pressing r1 while two handing her swords does use the same moveset as powerstanced light greatswords, pressing l1 just swings the fire sword, rather than blocking, and it has the straight sword off-hand moveset.
Oh snap, I've been using them since I got them and I didn't even think to use L1! I'm stuck on the final boss so I'll try it out on mooks before I finally buckle down and beat the final boss. Thanks man!
I always liked how Pontiff Sulyvhan didn't have an elaborate animation for illuminating his blades. Walking in and seeing a tall but otherwise indistinct figure across the hall set your expectations a certain way, before he cool-walks toward you and his blades suddenly ignite themselves in contrasting flames, making for a noteworthy shift in the player's bravery.
A real "Uh-oh" moment
0:28 precious huggies ☺
Rennala continues to be abandoned by everyone she ever loved lol 😂 first her sister then her husband - at least Rellana left on better terms but still
diapers?
Well with that moon head visual, now I can only keep thinking "Rellana, Lord of the Frenzied Moon."
I always tought that since they discovered the twin moons they'd be twin in appearence too
Rennala is directly said to be the "elder sister", I know twins arent born exactly at the same time, but that would be a weird way to say it.
I actually think Renna could be that twin lol the Dark Moon likes to hide and she's an adherent of it. Her name starts with an R. Her outfit is in Renna's Rise that was named by Ranni. Renna teaching Ranni in secret with Ranni potentially not knowing she's her aunt is a cool story point. A few things to consider lol
@@DanielGarcia-rx3kt The towers are also called "The Three Sisters." I always found it weird cuz Rennala was the first and last Carian Queen and almost definitely had only one daughter with no mention of any sisters, but now we have confirmation she had one younger sister she almost certainly had another one somewhere.
@@LuciferLucklessYesss!! Exactly we have one more Carian royal unaccounted for - but this does mean that Rellana wasnt completely unhinted at in the base game
@@LuciferLuckless oooooh
You also find the Carian Greatshield, which we know was once wielded by Rellana, in the Shadow Keep, another proof of her link to Messmer. I'd like to imagine her visiting him and leaving her shield as a gift
Leaving the shield as a gift to pick up a sword in his name with his power with an oath granting that power. I say an oath since that's what Radagon gave to Rennala as well. Until he broke it but yeah.
Wait carian greatshield? You mean the dueling shield?
@@ecthelionalfa A type of dueling shield
“Her head is a metal potato” I feel like this is a better fate then a lot of FromSoft characters tbh. I mean I just finished AC6’s final ending yesterday and there isn’t an ending where at least two of your friends don’t die.
In AC6 we literally become a living "metal potato" in the true ending, lmao
@@nachalnik5738 WAIT WHAT
Par for the course in Armored Core even before Miyazaki joined the company and started directing- there's a reason why the final 3rd Gen game was called Last Raven.
@@nachalnik5738 AC6s true ending is weird, mostly because it leaves a lot up in the air. Not to mention I know FromSoft loves non linear story telling but Igauzu being the final boss just seemed a bit odd. Don’t get me wrong I really liked the fight and Ayre showing up help out was awesome but when I had to take a minute to remember who Igauzu was it just felt out of the blue I guess.
@@screamthesecond3946In the final unlockable ending humanity melds with the coral
When I saw Rellana's phase transition I immediately shouted "Pontiff Sullivan!!" and now i call her swords small pontiff sullivans'.
Kinda wordy, I'd go with small sullies
Smoltiffs, if you will.
cringe
Or Pontiff Smallivans
More like Pointy Sullivans
Better to have loved and lost than to never have loved, right?
She left everything for him, but if she stayed with the carians she'd have regretted it for the rest of her life.
Renalla: "I could fix him"
*Narrator:* "She could not."
Marika: "Please don't. It took a lot of work to fuck him up this bad"
On her swords; they may share a moveset with twinned Light Greatswords when two-handed, but if equipped in the offhand only, the flaming sword has a Straightsword moveset!
Rellana's twin moons.....if only Messmer didn't have an oedipus complex.
Amazing chest ahead.
Pickle required ahead
try tongue but hole
Marika out there NTRing both sisters just by existing
bruh that's literally his aunt
I have been waiting for this video cuz Rellana might be my fav new Suleyvan cosplayer, but I didn’t even think about the Dancer, let alone Cirian. It’s wild to think that they’ve kept the gold and silver blades idea running in three of the last four Souls games (also once again, DS2 is just being quirky and different)
The gold and silver also corresponds with D’s gauntlets
They've also kept the "upper half of a woman on top of arthropod idea" going for 3/4 games. But in that case ds3 was the odd one out.
@@Eo-ms3kw eh they were still there technically, the Fair Lady’s corpse is in 3 but idk if we count that
@@sanguillotine I didn’t even think about that, but that also traces it back to Elden Ring’s identity Themes, which is cool asf
@@matthiasbarish1296 Nah, that doesn't count. That's not revisiting the idea but just reusing a character from a previous game.
The first words out of my mouth upon seeing Rellana’s second phase were, “Hello, Pontiff.”
I said nothing and just killed her on my first try...
When I saw the second phase, I immediately made a joke about HRT, “Pontiff? You too? HRT?”
I'm pretty sure some of her attack animations are literally ripped straight from him.
@@KyokujiFGCYeah, the parry bait and the lunge.
@@KyokujiFGC "Yeah Fromsoft should sue these lazy asses !!!!!!/?.§!!!"
What's inherently wrong with reusing animations ? Explain it to me with all your game developper insider knowledge, random internet whiner.
These Carian women losing their heads for redhead bad boys
Hey, unlike Marika who's always playing 5D Chess, the Carian princesses are much more proud to have feelings, probably because it's a matriarchy.
Whereas Marika, it's Might Makes Right, and everyone likes strong muscle men like Godfrey (Who's great). But when looking at the values those two houses cherish, Carians come off as much more human, much less bloodthirsty, and infinitely more civilized.
Like, their women actually love the dudes they marry. Compare that to Marika marrying whichever Lord serves to give her more followers... She has to appeal to the lowest common denominator and not in a good way.
Miquella was gonna do things better, combine the values of those two houses once more, but look how that turned out....
So Rellana gave up everything chasing after a man.
Rennala is so broken when her man leave her she just gave up on everything.
I'm seeing a pattern and now i'm worry for Ranni's future.
Ranni's man/woman stuck by her in the end!
...Well, unless you give her the ring, then dump her for Fia. That's probably gonna sting.
@@TriforceWisdom64*100% runners when they like fia's ending better*
Rellana and Rennala lost everything for a toxic redhead
Ranni IS the toxic redhead
@@RamixTheRed Truly, she is the Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss
@@RamixTheRedshe stays winning... 12 mil spouses and counting
"Highborn Renegades" is the coolest descriptor I've read in a while.
Absolutely goated band name
I'm absolutely stealing that line, it's too cool to let go.
Pairing anything with "renegade" is badass
@@armintor2826 renegade raider lmao
Sounds like the group name of minions under the main bad guy in a Metal Gear Solid game...
Rellana is by far my favourite character from this DLC. Good video!
Her biggest tragedy is the lack of cutscene, and that beating her literally just unlocks a shortcut to an area half of people probably would have accessed
Is there any other way to get there? I'll have to check again but I don't remember there being one. Far as I know she's standing in front of the only path.
It’s a short cut in the same way stormveil is a short cut to liurnia
@@spectralassassin6030she is not, there’s a path that goes under, it’s near Thollier’s first location
@@sanguillotine Hm. I'll check it out later. Don't think I found that in all my exploration.
@@sanguillotine At least Godrick had a Great Rune and like five questlines tied to his defeat. And also Stormveil was a much more elaborate dungeon than Ensis.
I notice it every time but I really appreciate the effort you put into the visuals, they look really nice.
The korok forest music in the background fits so well
I really love those videos, feels like someone tells us the story of Elden Ring as if it was in a Ghibli movie.
Probably it's the music doing that, but I appreciate it.
0:09 Virtual Insanity
Got that scarlet brain rot
Rellana is the highlight of a deeply stacked DLC. I love everything about this boss
Wake up babe, a new Zullie the Witch video
I'm just amazed by the curvature of those... moons...
Also the magic/fire swords is neat. Reminds of of DS3 with Dancer and Pontiff Sully.
She should visit her sister. Maybe Rennala could stop moping around if she would get actual mental support from her family.
It wouldn't be a Fromsoft game then. Reconciliation is a foreign concept to Miyazaki. He only knows betrayal and loss.
The fact about the lock of hair stands out to me whenever I see fanart of her, though I don't have the heart to reach out and umm actually their rendition of her like that.
The moon head was a nice touch. Another banger of a vid, been watching a long time and the quality is just going up and up
2:34 Lord of Frenzied Flame would like to know your location
Love these breakdowns! I'm never going to come to these conclusions on my own game time, I'm glad we have loremasters like you around!! 😊
"O dearest sister, before you depart I shall grant thee a lock of my hair as farewell gift!"
*Rellana takes out gardening shears*
I love listening to the music of ur clips and enjoy the lore ofc, but i love your chilling picks for the soundtracks ❤
"I can fix him"
I missed this when you use this music. It makes it relaxing to watch!
The lighting in the thunbnail makes it look like Rellana's wearing anime armor, with only the top half of her Twin Moons being covered.
i love the conflicting tone of the thumbnail and the title
she doesnt have a face? thats just how dedicated of a knight she was, literally giving up her identity for messmer 🤓
Could actually be a thing. That has happened in real life. Also gave up a cutscene.
I never get tired of your writing in these posts.
I guess Rellana wanted all 18 inches of Messmer 💀
Who wouldn't? 😏
she wants that base serpent
I love the format of your videos! So calming, love that I have to read and not listen to a rambling person spitting facts, it's like warming to my heart
It was good to see Pontiff Suluvahn again
Thanks for everything you do zullie 👍
I did not realize Rellana had them thangs on her like that
Lovely music choices as always ❤️
The gauntlet piece of the Messmer armor set has a grey-ish blue ring, suspiciously similar to the darkmoon ring.
Sword for a Ring how very Carian of her.
But its flipped. Rennala gave Radagon the sword (just like Ranni does to the player) for the ring(I guess she got one we don't really know).
Seems like Rellana was the one who proposed to Messmer and he accepted by gifting her the flaming sword.
That’s very interesting.
Actually, by closer look on the details of the ring you can see Marika‘s emblem on it. So I wouldnt think it was gifted from Rellana, but more a sign of his devotion to his mother, Marika.
@realnarouchan true, but from what we know of carian marriages, the women give the spouses a sword as proposal. If messmer gave Rellana the sword, he's technically the wife
Such a great character and probably my favorite fight in the entire DLC, if not the game as a whole.
Rellana was deeply in love with Messmer, and followed him into the Realm of Shadow. It was a love that he could never reciprocate, and eventually the desolation of all that she gave up and all that she would never have destroyed her. That’s why she has no dialogue, no cutscene. By the time that we encounter her, she’s basically gone hollow.
Reminds me a story of Raistlin Majere and Krysania from Dragonlance, where she eventually resurrected him but he was too hell-bent on continuing his mewing streak to love her back.
I love this interpretation, also to add to it maybe ymir had a hand in helping her despair along while he was scheming to honor something beyond the full moon.
thats why she is ready to whoop our asses as soon as we come to Castle Ensis. The only satisfaction she has left is combat so she makes sure if we are looking to kill messmer we're gonna have to go through her and that we have to work for it
All because Messmer just wanted to please his mother and earn her affection.
@@Diamond_2403 Mommy issues
Amazing video and im glad we get more carian lore! Wouldve loved an opening cutscene to her fight, maybe looking at the black braid of her sisters hair sadly before noticing the player
WE LOVE YOU ZULLIE
1:09 actually the fire sword is a straight sword as indicated by its move set. well dual wielding the swords the R1 move set is the light greatsword power stance, the R2 is the one handed like greatsword R2. & the L1 combo (in which you use only the fire sword) is the straight sword move set.
"Bringing the light of the moon where the Erdtree doesn't reach" is a BAR
That backround music you use makes me so happy
"They brought this back" could be used to describe the majority of Shadow of the Erdtree.
I love this boss and everything about her. This video truly proves why.
Cheers, Zullie!
NEW ZULLIE VIDEO!!
This came up on Twitter last night and you were the FIRST place I went to see if someone had revealed Rellana's face. But there was nothing. And then just three hours ago, here it is! I knew I could count on you. Best Souls analysis in the game!
its so funny everyone links her to pontiff... my brain registered her more as "dancer before the pontiff ring"
Same. You have to be able to duplicate a shadow version of yourself as well.
But, she has two glowy swords so she’s sulyvahn now.
I love how often G.R.R.M. just moves some letters around and just dumps a rhyming character out.
I remember seeing a bunch of people talking about how Renalla was actually light haired for some reason. And the dlc gave us an armor piece that says look at Renalla's long dark hair.
I love this channel cus in game I'm usually just tense and terrified, and then I fight for my life against something, not having the time, oportunity or will to appreciate it fully - I'm getting demolished
so, coming here to see who they were... it's super interesting! :D
Rellana's face most likely is identical to Rennala's, they're twins after all. You can argue they're dizygotic, but I don't think so
Thing is, Rellana is specifically named the younger sister. Though technically twins can be designated that way too, Elden Ring doesn't specify that they're twins. For example, we don't know who the older is of the twins Miquella and Malenia so chances are this applies to the Carians too. Meaning there might be a third Carian royalty whose name starts with an R that is an adherent of another moon... In other words, Renna. I think it's possible the Three Sisters in Caria Manor aren't a reference to Ranni and her siblings but rather Rennala and her younger twin siblings Rellana and Renna.
@@DanielGarcia-rx3kt Explains why there are 3 towers behind the mannor too.
Daniel got it, but I also want to add that they straight up don't look alike at al as far as body types go. Renallas got some freaky long limbs
@@heckingbamboozled8097 I think her 2nd phase is what she looked like before being heartbroken multiple times.
I am of the firm opinion that Messmer and Rellana were a thing. She is one of his closest companions and Messmer isnt that cold.
Would be weird if a flame Lord was that cold.
But really though, it's not like no witches in the real world don't fall in love with the devil...
Just saying.
@@samf.s.7731 exactly
Things the DLC made me want: to rescue Marika, kill every last hornsent and bring Messemer and his soldiers home.
Her boss fight was so much fun, that music going harder on phase change, so good :D
*Rellana deserved a cutscene...*
She deserved a cutscene more than any other boss in this DLC.
the real tragedy of the twin moon is how shit her weapons are when you redeem her rememberance.
Just another way she's a reference to Dancer.
that's just dark souls baybee
@@ZullietheWitchis there anything changed in map structure before release? Or maybe something cut about Godwyn or other characters?
They aren’t that bad in pve, not sure in pvp. Problem is that it only shine at high level.
Her weapon has a unique moveset which I personally value more than being meta (Fromsoft can easily change numbers on a weapon with any patch). I beleave her twin swords are the only melee weapon in the game with a left handed attack in place of the block.
That's a tragedy indeed
Mother, wouldst thou truly conceal thine visage
Makes one wonder WTF was going on in the DLCs development that some of the stuff in here came out abrupt and half-baked, both in terms of lore and lack of boss cutscenes and dialogue.
As much as I love every Soulsborne game, that's kinda the case with all of them besides Sekiro. The rush to rearrange assets and reconfigure mechanics late in development has had pretty obvious effects in every game. See the cut Archstone, the Dragon Butts of Izalith, all of DS2, Kos and Ebrietas switching names and making Micolash's dialogue confusing, Sulyvahn having no cutscene or dialogue (plus iirc his model was originally called Aldrich and located in the Kiln as final boss), and finally Elden Ring adding entire NPCs and quests in free updates because some stuff just dead-ended unexpectedly on day 1.
Remember, no bosses need cutscene. Its just a bonus
I initially read the title card as "Her Head is a Metal Hero" because she looks like Kikaider, the titular hero of the popular tokusatsu show of the same name. "Metal Heroes" was a popular subgenre of tokusatsu in the 80's, in case anyone was wondering... I'll just see myself out now. 🤦♀️
Her lore honestly feels like fanfic. Never before heard twin sister of Rennala who's name is Rellana who is very important, but gets absolutely no introduction or anything and there is no mention of her after that and may as well be filler. It kind of feels like From threw her character together just so SOTE has a dedicated Mage area and boss for main plot.
Just because the game didn't tell you about it initially, doesn't mean it couldn't exist.
We never found out anything about Renna, and she has one of the three sisters' towers. I don't think it made sense that one of the Towers was named after Seluvis, so maybe it originally belonged to Rellena
The area where Ranni stays is called the Three Sisters, so it's most likely Rennala,Rellana, and Renna. Two are taken one Ranni and the Second by Saluvis which is obviously not one of the sisters.
The only weird thing to me is why rellana moon require 72 int when rennala, a full sorcerer, only require 70
@@elphiefanful Sure but in the base game, important characters get set up before you see them, everything feels like it belongs. Like you read the sword monuments which let you know about Malenia and Radahn. The DLC lore feels completely separate from the base game, under the convenient guise of "Marika hid the land of shadow away" which leads me to believe the DLC wasn't planned until after release. It was definitely a letdown from a story/lore perspective for me.
Wasn’t expecting the Monument Mythos crossover at 2:35 lmao
Zelda music is so godly
great analysis as always!
Every enemy in the dlc is a professional beyblade enthusiast 😭
finally, a video about rellana's head, just what ive been waiting for
I wonder how it would feel:D
Zullie, I hereby offer you my firstborn in exchange for Messmer's cutscenes from other angles. Hell, maybe even just a closer look at his phase 2 ballerina pirouettes. This is a prayer of desperation.