Elden Rings most MISUNDERSTOOD mechanic
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- Elden Rings most MISUNDERSTOOD mechanic
Probably a good idea to learn about it before the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC, who knows how relevant it is and once you discover just how misunderstood and confusing it is you might reconsider some things for the DLC.
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Qumu: Mario Kart DS - Waluigi Pinball & Wario Stadium (DS) [Remix]
Timestamps:
0:00 Rarest Item
0:18 DLC Preparation
0:36 Discovery
1:24 Maximum
1:42 Rare
1:54 Yes
2:09 Impossible
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PSA: If you see IGGMs "article", they stole my script for this video word for word, even with the chapter names.
Correction: This video is not to say these weapons are impossible to get, if you dont farm for one it will take hundreds of hours to come across them by chance but farming for them actively makes even the toothpick not take too long.
It took me 4 days of on and off farming
Don’t hate me... but with the scarab, the bird’s foot and respec at 50 arcane I got it in 45 minutes of farming 😬 I just got really lucky I guess
I am happy for you tbh
Dude it took me 4 hours to get the executioners greataxe some wym not too long
Yeah, some of the weapons in ER were a pain in the ass to get. I made it a goal of mine to get 2 of every weapon and 1 of every piece of armor without cheating/modding and there were some pretty awful farms. The great envoy horn was by far the worst one. Id rather farm 5 noble toothpicks than get even 1 envoy horn agian.
You have a bag with 1000 total marbles in it. 5 of them are blue and the rest are red. You really want the blue ones (0.5% chance) Doubling your item discovery doubles how many blue marbles there are, but doesn’t take away any red marbles. That’s all the formula is saying.
Thank you sir
damn, what a smart approach
Thx for saving my time
Very elegant explanation
That’s ass! At least it’s not a large change but still a hindrance.
As someone who likes to describe himself as a "hoarding goblin", I decided 2 months after the game released that I would get each and every armor piece, both altered and unaltered, and two copies of every weapon just in case I wanted to power stance them
As I started the farm, the whole thing was pretty simple and uneventful. Pretty long farms, but most of them where fairly easy. I fully respec'd into an arcane build and farmed for a shit ton of fowl feet bc I knew I would need em. I watched a shitload of movies and finished some series. On some instances, I even played another game while farming since it was muscle memory at that point
There are 3 particular farms that have scared me deeply.
Number 3 is the fucking Altered Fire Prelate armor, that shit doesn't drop, I just doesn't, I spent around 2h beating the shit out of the same guy for one drop.
Number 2 is Dominula, not because the old hags are hard, but because there are so many pieces of armor and weapons that I spent around 3 days farming the same spot.
And the most annoying piece of shit farm, as Leviathan said, has to be the Envoy Greathorn. I didn't get much chances to even try my luck at the drop, bc I kept dying again and again to the fucking ants, or maybe one of the bubbles could hit me and throw me to the fucking void. Sometimes I even fell bc one of the flowers decided to stand right where I landed and I fucking slipped on it and broke my ankle. The moment I got one drop I just decided to quit. I don't need to power stance a giant bubble-making trombone. Envoy's Longhorn is better than this shit, and I have like 4 of those. Fuck it
And here I am now, like fucking 9 or 10 months later, farming for this fucking trash weapon bc I decided I REEEEEEALLY need 2 of each weapon. I'm dumb as shit.
i look up to you
I did all of this except for one weapon, because using two of the same weapon is boring. Your analysis of the agonizing farms is spot on. Also thanks to you... I now know I'm missing the Altered Fire Prelate chest piece. Thanks, sarcastically and sincerely.
Envoy greathorn...
My faith build must be lucky af...
I farmed for horns 2 days ago. All 3 horns drops in one spot and there are no ants on the way (used Haligtree town grace)... Took me about an hour to get 1 of each horns with 256 discovery.
2% chance at 100 Discovery => ~5% at 256. 2 Giant Oracle Envoys on the farming route => ~10 runs needed, as I understand it
You are a MAD MAN lol
i farmed the Royal Toothpick for about 20 minutes, i finally got 1 and thought: huh wouldn't it be cool if i wield 2 of them? i killed another one and boom another toothpick, my lucky day
😁
I spent ages farming the beastmans cleaver in farem azula and later when running by the same beastman I had been farming to get to the dragon lords areana so cure the frenzy flame he dropped another one
Which one is the royal toothpick
@@leonardollanos6600 if you're asking what weapon, it's the 'noble's slender sword'
@@djdutchgamer40 is it even good
For Envoy's Greathorn, Assasin's Gambit ash of war helps a ton. It lets you run around the tree without getting targeted by all the bubble boys. You can get to the closest Big Boy in about 20 seconds if you run, using two casts of AG.
yes! thats exactly how I got mine lol
I just personally drank the Crimsonwhorl tear after running up the ladder from the second site of grace in the area, and then ran up to the one that shoots stuff down at you, and from that path you get access to 2 without having to deal with any of the ants and shit.
or the black knife set
@@TheRadioactiveMaster black knife chest only silences footsteps there is no other effect of the pieces, unlike AG which provides hidden body effect too
And crouching makes it where your footsteps are effectively silenced regardless so black knife armor is terrible
WHAT HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS
We can roughly translate the formula with: Discovery 200 = x2 the drop rate, and discovery 300 = x3 the drop rate.
Of that's correct then essentially the best possible chance for those .5% items becomes relatively A 1.5% chance (don't worry, I showered today)
@@quolack9479 it would be a 1.62% drop chance if 300 discovery really meant 3x the drop chance
@@jozzi65830 he said relatively meaning close to it
@@jozzi65830how tho? "x3 the droprate" when the droprate was 0.005 is just 0.015 or 1.5%
edit: Oh nevermind I see, with 324 item discovery
@@jozzi65830 the video stated you could never get to 100% drop rate , I don't know how that math works out specifically so I lowballed it just in case
The only thing missing in this video explaining discovery is how the drop chances of items are effected by realistic numbers. I now know how effective 0 and several million discovery is, but I have no idea how effective 324 discovery is.
200 is 2x the drop rate of 100. 300 is 3x the drop rate of 100, or 1.5x the drop rate of 200. 400 would, theoretically, be 4x the drop rate of 100, 2x the drop rate of 200, and I suck too much at math to tell you what it is to 300.
If you double the stat, you double the drop rate.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Pretty much true and good enough as a rule of thumb. I've spent an honestly regretful amount of time staring at this formula and have a few other trends to note:
tl;dr Investing in more discovery/arcane is most valuable if you're farming rare items and don't already have much discovery. The more common the item and the more discovery you already have, the less 'value' you get out of spending more points on it.
* Similar to what you're saying, starting from a base stat of 100 discovery, multiplying that stat by X *pretty much* multiplies any drop chance by X. E.g. Achieving 200 discovery basically multiplies drops by 2x, 300 discovery by 3x, etc.
* At base drop chances less than 10%, the extra chance granted by discovery might be rounded down. So at very low base chances, you might have to add multiple discovery points before you actually see an improvement. (This doesn't really make those points 'less valuable', it just means you have to add multiple points to get the full benefit)
* As the base drop chance increases, the chance improvement granted by discovery decreases. E.g. if you have 200 discovery:
* A 1% drop would a ~2% chance (=2x)
* A 10% drop would have an ~18% chance (=1.8x)
* A 50% drop would have a ~67% chance (=1.3x)
* As the base drop chance increases, the 'value' of each new point of discovery obtained (i.e. how much your chances improve compared to previous levels) decreases. E.g. if you have 200 discovery:
* At 1% drop, each new point of discovery is about as valuable as a new point was at 100 discovery
* At 10% drop, each new point of discovery is ~85% as valuable as a new point was at 100 discovery
* At 50% drop, each new point of discovery is ~48% as valuable as a new point was at 100 discovery
* Also as discovery increases, the value of each new point of discovery (as per point above) decreases. E.g. for a 10% drop item:
* Adding a point at 150 discovery is ~92% as valuable as a new point at 100 discovery
* Adding a point at 200 discovery is ~85% as valuable as a new point at 100 discovery
* Adding a point at 250 discovery is ~77% as valuable as a new point at 100 discovery
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 straight forward like this? This is rare, lol
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 The drop rate isn't doubled, the number of valid options out of the total is doubled. So if it's 5/1000 originally, doubling it becomes 10/1005. The difference being that you aren't replacing invalid rolls with valid rolls, but adding valid rolls to the invalid rolls. Saying the drop rate doubles is close enough at the low numbers of discovery that are attainable in the game, but not at higher values.
The math is pretty simple, if you look up the formula. With a drop rate of 0.5%, at 324 discovery your drop rate is 1.582%. Just a little over triple the original drop rate. The way it scales at very large numbers, however, means it falls off dramatically the higher you go. So at 12,800 discovery, the drop rate is ~39.14%, rather than the 64% it would be if you simply doubled the drop rate as you doubled your item discovery. Double the item discovery again to 25,600 and the formula will tell you a 0.5% item will increase in drop rate to ~56.26%, well shy of the 128% drop rate that you would get if doubling discovery doubled drop rate.
At 274 discovery, you get ~1.289% drop rate and at 175 discovery you get ~.797% drop rate.
@@lucascamelo3079 not exactly straight forward, but basically. if you double discovery you *nearly* double drop chance, almost double, but not exactly. practically it doubles though so it doesnt really matter.
It's always cool to find out later that something you found in your first playthrough turns out to be an extremely rare drop
@@greirat22 I got the envoys great horn on my first run lol
I got two noble's slender swords before I started to farm for any weapons.
I got the cat helmet
@@salvadorgarcia673 I had to google in order to see if you're pulling my leg. I assume you mean the Imp Head (Cat)? I don't think I have that one yet, since I didn't even know it was an option.
@@backonlazer791 I got the imp head in the first hour of my first gameplay, pretty neat.
I wish you talked about what 199 Discovery actually gets you for 0.5% drop rates and also give other examples of what achievable numbers can get you.
200 Discovery ups the drop rate of the 0.5% items to ~0.995%. However, due to rounding, 199 Discovery only increases it to ~0.896%.
@@Garryl367 Good to know! Thank you so much for the info!
in the achievable ranges, discovery is actually quite impactful. The video is kinda misleading with the "2million discovery?!?!" stuff.
It would turn 0.5% into like 0.9%. As a rule of thumb, for items with a 8% drop rate or lower, you can just pretend 200 Discovery is twice as often, 300 discovery is 3x as often. In reality the odds are slightly lower but it's close enough to not matter.
Yeah exactly, I felt like he went in the wrong direction and got off track with the video. I wanted to know the probability with max discovery
It's weird though when we farm for something we will probably spend hours of dedication and patience but when we not even need it even the rarest thing can be easily obtained in early game.
It *feels* that way. Same as irl
Yup lmao. You find something only when you aren't looking for it.
Farming for the Cleanrot set and the Executioner Axe on my first playthrough was annoyingly long lol.
Did you have a stroke
Yeah, I got my first Grossmesser as a random drop when I'd barely encountered any skeletons. Second one took a ton of kills trying to farm. For the Noble sword, I've gotten two in ~140 hours playing without any actual attempt to farm them.
I think the real trick is to not let the game know you want something. Once it knows it will refuse to give it to you.
In my first playthrough I got the noble toothpickreally quickly in Liurnia. When I started a new game I knew it wouldn’t be that easy, but I got it even earlier on in Limgrave.
You don’t choose the toothpick. It chooses you.
I got it and sold it because I didn’t know it was that rare
Holy shit I didn’t know that royal “toothpick” was that rare. It dropped for me twice in 10 minutes while making my way to Renalla using the shortcut. Would have rather won the lottery but I guess this is cool too.
I actually got Noble's Estoc during my first playthough.
I was excited to see the golden color of it and thought it was going to be a strong weapon.
After seeing the stats, I never even equied it LOL
I'm on my first playthrough and I have 2 of them. Didn't know they were all that rare.
I got one too. 😊
I was hoping it was gonna be a balder side sword type deal :(
Its the noble's slender sword people tend to be after not the estoc. Its the longest straight sword in the game, scales well with the faith and intelligence based infusions, has a 110 crit multiplier, has relatively low strength requirements for a straight sword (8) in exchange for slightly higher dex (11), and has the straight sword moveset that i believe most would agree is pretty simple and effective for pve. This makes it a solid choice for casters who dont have a lot of points to invest in str or dex. The astrologer can equip this weapon with their starting stats, unfortunately the prophet is one point shy of the dex requirements so they would maybe opt for something else.
Really though this sword with a staff in the off hand is my favourite way to play astrologer.
yeah I can back up what SF said, the noble slender sword is the best infusable straight sword for dex, not only that but the range is huge, it's almost like a greatsword with a straight sword moveset haha.
If you're a pc chad, you can just turn off anticheat and give yourself a couple with cheat engine, then pretend it dropped.
I had no idea that the Envoy's Great Horn was a rare drop. Got mine on the third enemy I killed in that zone. 🙂
Same! I got it the first time i killed the enemy weilding the greathorn, the first time i even encountered it. I figured it was a scripted drop
Me too and same thing with the imp mask. I needed it for a build I wanted to try and got it halfway through the dungeon I was in
One playthrough I managed to get every envoy weapon pretty easily. Next time I could never get any of them. Lmao
I think one of the most overlooked rare drops has to be the Iron Greatsword. Despite being a basic sword on paper (and in practice), it exclusively drops from Leonine Misbegotten outside of boss fights. This means your only chances are the side exit of Leyndell (so unavailable in endgame) and the couple on the Haligtree.
Yep, NEVER going near the Haligtree ones lmfao.
One of the first stone imps I ever fought dropped the imp head mask...I had no idea it was so rare!!
same, I got it in the tomb in limgrave near the church with the merchant guy
Same. I got mine in the catacombs to the west of Stormveil fairly early and I've been wearing it since. I didn't know until later that it's a very rare drop. I've worn it for so long that I have to take it off occasionally to remember what my character looks like.
I got it first time on 2 savefiles and i'm not kidding
I'm just gonna say, wanting to dual wield every weapon in the game was my first mistakr, actually farming them was my downfall
I think one of the hardest to get is the monk's flameblade. To my knowledge, for some reason the blackflame monks don't drop it even though they wield it regularly. There is one regular fire monk that wields it and he's in the giant conquering hero's grave.
Yep just the one and he's a decent little run from the grace too. Further than the Envoys greathorn run
@@raijinoflimgrave8708 Further run, but far safer
There's also the on at the bottom of Calid tower before the godskin.
@@stephentoliver8310 It's a Blackflame Monk, so for some reason it doesn't drop it.
@@stephentoliver8310 I don't think that one drops it.
You forgot the marais mask in the buffs
Short and to-the-point video, love it!
İ wish you said what is the chance to get an 0.5% item with 324 discovery
It's 1.58%
@@Leviathannohit thank you
1.60%
How funny, I find this video after finishing a "100%" save on which i've managed to collect almost every single item you can get on ng. Reminded me of the Darkmoon blade farming in DS3, or farming falconers in DS2 for sunlight medals. I love this mechanic because it is like a little secret that 90% of the players will just never interact with, but still adds something to discover for the completionists who want to know 100% of these games.
For a three minute video, theres a lot of information packed into it, good job, great video.
The Nobles Slender Sword is actually a great weapon in pvp. It has the longest reach of any straight sword, making it similar in play to the Lothric Knight sword of DS3. And while the AR isn’t as good, the reach on poke attacks make up for it in a game full of spears, halberds, great swords, and katakana’s.
Classic pvp player prioritizing range over damage
It's not the longest, the longest is carian knight sword
If you're using straight sword the longsword is worth it tbh, you don't need the range when you're just jump attack spamming half the time with dual straights anyway
@@AutistiCat2406 the noble slender sword is in fact the longest straight sword. As for saying not needing range, you really don't get how higher level pvp works if you think just jump attacking is it.
I almost sold it until I looked it up and found out rare it is
Honestly, I love the toothpick's esthetic, I'm glad I took the time to farm it.
As for the envoys great horn, after a few runs, it feels good to be able to clear this part of the game without trouble
I got the great envoys horn on my third attempt down the haligtree, which I had only gotten too like 20 min prior. I feel very lucky now after having watched this video and seeing how rare it is lol
You're making some solid content there my dude, earned my subscribe.
Wow this is really useful info! I farmed the envoys great horn, it took me a long time but I had no idea just how lucky I am for it to have dropped probably within the first hour, maybe slightly over.
I got everything. It wasn't that bad and swapping to an Arcane build did expedite the process. Would be nice if the video explain the % increase in drops with the bits of discovery that you get. .5% is 1 in 200, 1% is 1 in 100, 2% is 1 in 50.
Someone finally covered discovery thank you
Each and everytime great content over here
bro remember unaltared banished knight armor - i bet that's hardest item to get only because of there's only 2 enemies dropping it
There's one you can shoot with a bow from a grace and he will teleport to you. EZ farming.
In summary, don't level up arcane to have more drops but for other reasons like damage scaling or status effects like bleed. The discovery bonus is just a very small one.
Never thought about any of this before actually, bc I have multiple of every obtainable in game item. I usually just give away items and runes now. So I guess you could say I increase drop chance to 100% on everything.
good short and informative video.
I got the stone cat head helm in the catacombs just to the west of Stormveil. I can't remember if an imp dropped it or if it came from the boss, but I remember being very happy to find it. I didn't find out until much later that apparently it's a very rare drop. I've been wearing it since I found it, because it has better stats than any of the other helms/headgear I have and I can adjust what else I wear so I'm not fat rolling all over. I've worn it for so long that I have to occasionally remove it just to remember what my character actually looks like, lol. I think there might be some soldier/knight helms that provide higher physical protection, but it's a FromSoftware game, so most of it doesn't make much difference unless someone is really into min/maxing. I mostly just go with what I like and that stone cat helm does give very high protection against most of the magic related damages, and I'd prefer that over physical protection any day.
I specifically farmed out every weapon before ng+, took a few weeks of casual grinding but it definitely wasn't awful
I read the title and thought.
"OMG IT IS FOR MORE THEN BLEED?"
Yes I'm joking but seriously, it's depressing how common bleed is everywhere.
It’s bad but at least it’s not Transient Moonlight.
lol I have 6 each of those. Even with just base arcane, it's easy for FTH builds and the starting class Prophet to get with Beast Claw from Selen's hideaway. And the 3 nobles just outside Thops
study at Raya Lucaria are easy to farm too. Pretty zen.
LMFAO!!!! I JUST got through farming the two horns and your NOT wrong lol, I was getting sooooo pissed to where i had to kms whenever it didnt drop because I couldnt fast travel. However after seeing the stats I feel I got really lucky because it actually only took about 15 20 min. But if you dont mind is there a way the greathorn can be better? because i only see mention of the more slender version being better aside from small enemies up close the bigger version gets little mention but keep pumping our raw stat vids I LOVE THIS deff got a new sub my guy!
I do like they added more to the luck stat and made the already existing functions alot more useful. I usually didnt bother with luck in the previous games until my main stats were softcapped because lets be honest in previous games status effects sucked ass. Its also nice to have a few spells that scale with luck and have a luck requirement
Started a faith build a week ago and was considering getting the slender sword because of the scaling, but changed my mind when I saw the drop rate lol. It seems like that and the (un-altered, with cape) banished knight armor that are absolute pains to farm for. Idk why From doesn't just put these items in the world somewhere.
great video!
Wow that gagging cat absolutely floored me for some reason.
Yeah I didn't understand a single word you said
Not understanding basic math is a weird flex
What is that armor you wear? With the kilt? I love it and want it
I know I want to know this too I think it's a mod?
In DS series, there were items and set pieces, that helped. In DS3, it was around 550, that gave you around 5% drop rate.
I managed to get noble slender sword in both my only 2 play throughs without farming at all
It's for selling and not using, 1000 runes.
@@zZiL341yRj736 Blasphemy. The coolest looking straight sword by far. Throw on a golden armor set and you've got a great look.
Even still, most of crafting is normally out of question because lots of items like arteria leaf, string, trina lily are so rare...
ur joking…
what
almost everytime i give in to curiosity to pick up an item surrounded by enemies its a freakin' arteria leaf
Well, just go to Jarburg
Hey nice video!
I was wondering if you could exceed the maximum discovery with talismans and armor... Or do the Boni not add after arcane lvl 99.?
I didn't even know the golden weapons are rare.. They've been rotting in my inventory for a while now.
Anyone who has been through DS 3 Vertebrae shackle farming after the servers were down on pc, know that the elden ring farming is a charm compared.
@Kari Legion Dont even mention proof of concord kept here... PTSD right there.
I found it interesting how ln my first playthrough I found that toothpick thing after killing one of those guys by accident, I was only about 7 hours into the game and I sold it right after I got it
The "rare toothpick" was one of my first item drops. I didn't know it was rare but I've been using it for my whole playthrough
Interesting topic, well presented. Cheers from Germany
the silver tear mask also boosts discovery
It adds 8 arcane so technically yes, but it doesn't raise the max discovery because past 99 arcane it does nothing
nothing misunderstood about this mechanic . I wish there was an opposite of subscribing so i could block this channel
That royal toothpick is one of the best straight sword. I used it in one of my good old sword and shield playthrough. It has the best range and reasonable scaling and the much needed thrust charged attack
I found the nobles slender sword without even trying or a high arcane on my first ever playthrough, had no clue it was so rare
Dude pls upload more videos.
As someone that farmed the Envoy Greathorn I have to say that the route to the secluded big guy is actually pretty decent once you get the hang of it. And I love the great horn attack so 100% worth it
The noble Royal Toothpick was a close opponent but nothing tops out the 2 million worth of runes that I got while farming for a single single cleanrot spear at the Prayer Room on NG. I farmed every single item in the game on NG (minus some boss weapons that would require NG+), and only switched to a 99 arcane build for like the last 5 items left (my normal build has 9 arcane), and those 2 were some of those items.
Woah, algorithm actually sent something I wanted my way for once. Thanks for the educations delivered in a humorous way!
Royal Toothpick took me like 8h, at 187 discovery (12 Arcane + Silver Scarab), whilefarming from the convoy next to the Waypoint Ruins with the -Albinauric Destroyer 3000- Sacred Relic Sword...
I mean, it IS simple. Discovery is a (approximate) odd-ratio multiplier. 100 discovery doesn't change your odds. 200 discovery doubles your odds. 324 discovery increases your odds by 224%.
The problem is that people conflate odds with chances when they absolutely are not.
0.5% drop is 1:199. You should expect to get 1 drop for every 199 failures. 200 discovery changes it to 2 drops for every 199 failures. The reason this is approximate is because the odds ratios are forced to be in reference to 1000 and integers only. So 0.5% literally translates to 5:995 odds. 200 discovery would change it to 10:995. However, 150 discovery would change it only to 7:995 instead of 7.5:995 because we can only use whole numbers.
If you delve into the formula, it gets more interesting imo.
The roll is out of 1000, so we're working with 1000s for those extra sweet sigfigs. BY THE WAY, Japan counts numbers by groups of 4 0's, not 3. Their numbers use the same format as ours, but they have a unit for 10,000 whereas we do not. Hence, they use 'man' in the same way as we use 'thousands' as a capstone number for something large. Hence, the fact FromSoft is using 1000 instead of 10000 means they use western numbers!
anyway
-P*10 changes "percent" to "permille" since we're using 1000s
-D/100 just changes discovery into its multiplier
-w*100 just changes the percent from a (proper) decimal version to its casual percentage version
-w-P*10 is literally just extracting that bonus due to discovery > 100 so that the formula doesn't double count
-Due to how we've made everything in reference to 1000, the 1000 in the formula actually is the sum of the odds of success and failure. This number would change under normal circumstances, but because the formula forces everything in terms of 1000, it can be hard coded as a magic number (it probably isn't, but it's coded as a static value, so it never changes as far as we're concerned)
It's also set up in the elegant 'off-set Direct Ratio' method for scaling decimal multipliers. It's not supposed to be considered with marginal gains via the formula directly but via its reciprocal. The result actually does have linear gains with no asymptote. But the result should be interpreted as "you get to wait x% longer before you roll a dud." 110 discovery would increase the time it takes to get a dud by 10%
I grinded all weapons months back and the one that took me the most time was that skeletal bandit sword, as it took me about 220 kills to get it which took me about 40 mins. All the other weapons usually took me 30-50 kills with 2 others taking about 130
My grandad played the game for all of 3 hours and got the nobles slender sword on his first playthrough, it was literally one of his first items
this video reminds me of the 40 hours i spent grinding the hooded knight in the snowy castle for his helmet, only one in the game I knew of that had the unaltered variant of the heavy armor. funny because I wanted it for the set, but ended up dumping points into endurance and rocking the bull goat set
lol, that sword looked familiar & remembered getting some random sword from one of those skeleton dudes. Checked my inventory & there it was.
I think I got it around 20h of playtime (currently at 50h). Looks like a good sword too.
I got that goblin helmet on my first play through! Didn’t know it was so rare
Well aside from discovery which can also be boosted via silver scarab. The only other two reasons you'd boost this stat. One you are a bleed build looking to get the most out of your bleed procs. The second you're a high damage spell caster.
Doesnt the golden leaves weather effect also causes extra drop chance? or is it just extra runes?
It's funny because on my first playthrough I got it from the first guy who had it and had no idea how rare it was. Still went through with the bloodhounds fang until finishing the game though :)
That cat edit was perfect
I was rockin the Cat helm my first playthrough, had no idea it was so rare
I’m going to count my blessings, I did not realize the great horn was that rare. I picked it up in relatively few attempts at about 200 discovery, however I did struggle to get the watchdog greatsword.
Perhaps this will provide some hope to those out there farming, drop rates are more of a suggestion when put into practice.
I got it in like 10ish minutes when I actively farmed it. Sitting on 2 of the estocs and 3 of the long sword version too. But I have an arcane character designed for farming drops. Honestly the hardest thing I've farmed for is the whole set of armor and weapons of the cleanrot knights
Feeling quite lucky to have that horn in my inventory lol. Didn't know it was so rare
A few play sessions ago i got an imp head, a nobles straightsword, and old aristocrat shoes, all with no grinding and no good stats except strength, endurance and vigor. It was literally just dumb luck, and i wasn't actively trying to get any of the items, i just got them from random passing enemies.
I picked up a noble rapier on my first play through just a few hours into the game, had no idea it was so rare and trashed it thinking it was a regular drop.
btw for anyone struggling to farm envoys greathorn; near the haligtree town grace, up the ladder is one of those f*ckers behind you on the tree (the one that's bombarding you with his holy balls as you try to get to the haligtree town grace), and with spells with an arc like cannon of haima you can hit him without him being able to hit you.
As someone who grinded out to get every item in the game the most hellish time I had was with the nobles estoc, I grinded for many hours with multiple methods and finally on my 8th session on my 3rd spot I got it. The celebrants come close but the grind there was so long because of the amount of items they could dropped.
2-3 hrs farming the hat noble outside the capital wall at the grace near the dragon spawn plateu, got 3 fancy noble swords and 1 slender noble sword between there and nobles outside Waypoint ruins.
thanks, i recently came back to elden ring and yes im farming for all equipment. Im excited envoy drop rate lmao
I managed the Envoys horn first time in that small area between the leyndell capital grace and the rooftop jumps. Those envoys along the path as you first walk through the broken wall are easy to farm. Probably just got lucky but eh
0:40 that "oh no" felt so real
You don't even know how mad I was dude. I had like 6 of these swords, read "can be sold for a good sum" , and cried when I found out they were rare after I sold all of them
I did not realise imp heads were so rare, I got 2 drops in the same dungeon in my most recent playthrough and it was really early on as well
I got one of those horns and wasn't even aware how rare they are. Wasn't even on an arcane build either lmao
I actually got a Toothpick drop during one of my play throughs without farming for it. The Noble Estoc was the hardest for me to get. Like 3 days of farming for a hour or more each day. I got lucky with the greathorn
I got the Nobles Slender Toothpick or whatevs really randomly (luckily). I actually didn’t notice picking it up from a fallen foe in my bloodlust and it was only later when I was trying to sell some stuff that I was like, Oh what is this sword that’s worth 10x every other weapon I have. I really like using it too. It has a v fast slash. 😊
What is the name of the armor set you had equipped in this video? I must know!
...why did you have to remind me that I am still missing that damn horn.
its always amazes me how little drop chance the royal toothpick has, since ive gotten it on 3 playthroughs without farming for it.
Question
The armored you have is it part of the game?
And the Sunrealm skeleton knights can they drop the armored too?
I got Noble Slender Sword while going to all the graveyards. Went to the one in Caelid and got it. Base discovery too. This was my bow only run and now I feel like I have to use this weapon 🤣😊
I find the best way to find items is to not want them. I tried doing a powerstance bandit curved sword build and I kept killing this one skeleton on Weeping Peninsula but it wouldn’t drop. In frustration I decided to load my previous two characters, STR build and INT build. Yep, they both had two bandits curved swords in storage despite me never farming it. (I always keep at least one copy of every weapon, two for potential powerstancers). I wish this game had a shared stash!
I actually farmed great envoy’s horn at the second grace in heligtree, there is two in, well, not walking distance, more like “running for your life for 30 seconds” distance + 2 medium envoy boys if you want to farm that. I had pre-nerf RoB though and it killed big boys with one full corpsepiler (2 bleeds). Wasn’t terrible, but you really need a very fast way to kill them before they kill you.
i swear to god i got that sword on my second try and didn't know its the rarest item untill now..💀
At 14 seconds in, what is the hammer on the right side next to the nobles estoc? I thought it was a celebrants skull but it looks different