City of Heroes Online is Hilarious
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2023
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The cinematic universe we deserve. Seriously, I have ideas on how to do that
My husband and I met playing this game in 2004, and when he proposed to me a few years later he did it through the game. We played it right up until the official servers shut down, and when the community run servers started up we jumped right back on :)
That’s awesome!
how was the ring?
🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
thats really fucking weird
@@Tyscratweird but awesome
City of Heroes was the only MMO I ever loved.
And it's how I learned that you can't trust companies to keep backing the product even after you invest money and time in it. Hard lesson to learn. Things that you love hurt you the most.
Me, too. I loved LOTRO early days of Lotro. But COH is still great on Homecoming server.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qgUnfortunately, Marvel heroes Omega did the same thing to me but in months instead of years. So I got burned twice.
Time spent playing other MMOs: about 30 minutes.
It is the only MMORPG I loved as well. It hurt to lose, far too much to allow such attachment to one again, even to the currently available versions of it.
To this day still one of my absolute favourites and one that now has a permanent spot on my hard disk. I was gutted when they cancelled the official version, but I was so so very happy when it came back community driven.
#FACTS
Absolutely AMAZING character creation and classes!
I loved it when it first came out and you could slot five or six damage in your powers. I loved taking on the Cyborg bosses who had the big hook claws.
@@wardenm The character creation WAS the game. Like, the gameplay was fun, but making your character was the entire reason for the game.
I had no idea that this game had been opened up again!
A friend showed me this game when it originally came out.
I was converted to a PC gamer that very day and have never bothered with consoles since.
I will have to look into this.
I played a LOT of City of Heroes before World of Warcraft came out. Mostly at this point I remember how satisfying the character creation system was. You could create some highly interesting, extremely aesthetic costumes.
I'm fascinated that it's still available to play.
I started playing City of Heroes while waiting for WoW. In the end, I didn't feel the need to leave it. Still never played WoW to this day and don't regret it one bit. Kicking baddies across the room and off balconies never got old.
it's not legally available anymore.
Same here spent a lot of time in this MMO but WoW did come out and well it grabbed me and I was in and out of City of Heroes for several years. Had an Electric/Electric plus Energy Blapper who got all of the debt badges due to her getting crushed at times. But she burnt off the debt so quickly since she was able to take on large groups of mobs. Fire up the Electric Shield pop everything that was needed and charge right into the group and smack them silly. She was also able to smack certain Tanking Boss around as well. Had a Defender friend and we would go run the zones he would work hard on keeping me alive and I would take everyone down. Love it when she finally got her big power since we would group up and take out dozens of werewolves at a time. Tank would round up several groups and get their attention and I would power up my mega hitting power and the screen would just show lots of damage being done and then it was rest for a few minutes and the Tank would go and get another group. It is very dated though since it is 20 years old.
@@chestersleezer8821 Redside hardcore player. was really the only MMO that I grew to love.
I also played an illusion empathy controler blueside. That was rough. Some good memories of it though. Stealth plus teleport others in that one raid where you had to touch the stones at the same time. Wound up beating it with like 10 seconds to spare.
@@AngelusNielson Yeah it is. Source: Currently playing it.
The COH community is what really made COH special
One of the nice things about city of heroes in general (and maybe Thunderspy specifically, because they've done a pretty decent amount of balancing to bring under-performing sets out of the muck) is that despite the frankly absurd amount of power combinations and enhancement builds the game offers, there really aren't any wrong answers. You could make every character creation and leveling decision at random and still come away with an effective character. Not OPTIMIZED certainly, but not useless either.
I think it helped a lot that the game wasn't vertically focused, but instead, horizontal. You just made alts. It never really developed a strong end-game and instead, offered a huge variety of power combinations. And so you could make some pretty silly characters that still worked. Like I had one called Travel Man, a kinetic defender with all four travel power sets, allowing him to TP, fly, run fast, and jump far, as well as enable all of this for his teammates as well. Overall, an amusing concept, but also one that is a huge waste of power choices. Yet despite the focus on travel, the character was still effective in groups.
Unfortunately, they added the player made missions, and I think that played a big part in the game's downfall. Players tend to follow the path of least resistance, which in this case meant making efficient farming maps. But when the content is leveling up new characters, trying to speed run to max level means you're shooting yourself in the foot, gutting both the time per character (which wasn't bad to begin with) and the content variety.
@@Axterix13E never should have given XP or influence. The idea of telling your own stories goes hand in hand with a game designed around making your own OCs, but they just did NOT implement it right. Reminds me of that story where ultima online had an entire simulated ecology with a self-balancing foodchain, and then right at launch players ignored it entirely and just slaughtered everything that moved.
Would've been nice if people at the time thought this way. "Oh, you're a Defender, but not a healer? GTFO."
Throwing a forklift at people never got old.
I mained an illusion empathy controller blue side. Are you sure about that? :P
I had like 5 levels worth of XP debt before I got my movement power...
I remember sitting under Atlus as the official servers closed in college. Still the most chill, pleasant community I've experienced. No drama over the meta, just costume contests and hey, show me your base.
You didn't even touch on the Mission Architect system where you can create your own missions. But it's good to see CoH getting some love in 2023. I'm so glad it stuck with its level 50 cap and gave you options to boost through incarnate systems rather than just raising the level cap. Still my favorite MMO.
To me the best thing about COH is the community. Almost everyone is willing to help and give advice without looking down at new players. It's a very welcoming community.
I play on Homecoming and I really love that for the most part it is every bit as good a community as the game was on live all the way through its lifecycle.
@@trident042 100% agree and there is so much more participation from GMs within the game. They love the game and it shows.
We had a new player that we helped along. When she commented how nice and helpful we all were compared to other MMO games she played, our team leader jumped in and proudly said "We're heroes, this is what we do!" It's been out SG's motto ever since
So glad to see this game back from the dead. No game deserves perma death, especially not good ones.
Yes, the game was making money when it was canceled, not a superstar but grinding along there was new content in the pipeline and it had a hard core long term customer base, but I think the company wanted to move the staff to other projects, they especially felt there was another wow slayer waiting to be born, that MMO's were the golden goose of gaming. Almost out of no where with hardly any warning they pulled the plug, I know some games that announced sun setting and 1 or 2 years later with no new content the games are still around.
Ok that's just not true, and pretty stupid for you to say that
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843What about what he said was incorrect. Most of it is fairly accurate. Some of it just being conjecture.
@@averybaumann IMO the company killed its ability to make money by stupidity. They screwed all the actual paying customers that had supported it for years when it went from monthly to 'free to play'. They took nearly everything from those players supergroup base control, alts and many others unless you payed to gain them back. They could have gone down the micro transaction route instead with offering certain costume sets or the ability to change how your powers look as pay options instead of taking core parts of the game away. This is why there is such animosity towards them and outright hate wouldn't be stretching it in many cases.
@@rigrmortis3393if you're paying monthly to play a game then you're a moron
The best MMO I've ever played, simply because they decided no characters would be useless, and players shouldn't be gated off from playing together. The sidekick system alone made this an incredibly good MMO (Play alongside any higher level player at their level). Tons and tons of tools to make playing with other people a delight instead of just a huge irritant that's necessary for gear. Speaking of which, no gear, just limitless costume options, including customizing what your powers even LOOK like (Colors and animations and the look of your weapons if those are what your character's using). No useless characters, everyone can team up with very few restrictions (Heroes and villains can only team up in certain zones, for instance, but you can also switch sides if you want to, or make a rogue/vigilante character who can walk both worlds). So cool.
Thanks for the good memories, Virtue server.
in its day sidekicking was amazing. these days its kind of been adapted by anyone, but in the original everquest/ffxi days, if your friend played more than you, you just weren't going to play with them, it was big.
They made a LOT of good decisions. Some poor ones right after launch, but things got better after Statesman left to start his own MMO with hookers and blackjack. Like there's crafting and an auction house, but you don't have to ever interact with those if you don't want. If you *do* want you can make yourself insanely rich in a very short time playing the auction house. It's absolutely 100% optional, and you can absolutely complete the game without it, but if you're the sort of person who enjoys seeing just *how* busted you can make a character, it's amazing for that too.
And your gear doesn't change your appearance, so you're not forced to look a certain way if you don't want to.
The variable difficulty system means that the game scales to the most casual or most power obsessed minmaxer.
There's nothing forcing you to join a clan or guild, unlike a lot of MMOs where if you aren't good at socializing you're not going to get as far or have much fun.
It was the first MMO I ever played where, when fighting even-con enemies, basically at the intended level of difficulty, you could take on like 8 enemies at once. Every other MMO I'd played before that, you had to single-pull or die.
There were so many things about it that were revolutionary (Some of them unintended, but they ultimately ran with them), and so many decisions that made it just friendlier and more accessible than other MMOs. I still play it, even though the combat is clunky and old fashioned now.
And you could invite higher level players to be mentors. Their level was dropped down and some powers locked.
They were still way more powerful but didn’t just destroy everything.
Level 50’s were the group I asked to joined my task force after everyone in the level range. I figured they weren’t busy leveling. And often they’d need an achievement.
The mmo review I wish people could do all the time, and almost no one has. YESSS
I really enjoyed it back then. In fact, we were three roommates who had a blast in City of Villains. We spent a good amount of time building our cozy secret base and flying around (which was fun).
If you haven't gotten to try it yet, I'd recommend the City of Villains path as well. Unlike say, DCUO, City of Villains is its own entirely unique storyline with a completely different environment (all north Atlantic islands), and waaaaay better writing than City of Heroes. I would recommend a play through if you enjoyed City of Heroes at all.
city of villains is part of coh and u can travel in both as a rogue or vigilante...
tho im sure u know x,x soo nvm
Yep, if anything, CoV is better than CoH, but its dificuly to form groups as most play CoH, its a shame.
The writing is better than early Coh because it is written later. Arcs that were made further into Coh existence are on par with them.
If it's anything like the CoV official back under the company that shall not be named, then yeah, it's gotta be fun. I still fondly recall my highest lv char, a Martial Arts/Ninjutsu Stalker named Ultimate Fail. Had just gotten in line for a cape mission when the hammer came down.
How can one play City of heroes and Villains?
It's still the only MMO going with the Debuffer playstyle, which I'll never forgive modern MMOs for omitting. Controller is still my favorite playstyle and no other MMO can replicate it, which sucks. CoH is still amazing and unique to play today as it was back in the day.
I know :) I add it to let those that don't know the game that its an MMO as opposed to a single player game.
DAoC has some pretty amazing debuff classes, and the private server scene is actually pretty good
@@fu102 it's still going? Loved that game back in the day. From bounties on some players put on by guilds to the mid and hib alliance. No MMO dose what they did with the RVRVR
@@rybald1973 Yep, retail is still around too actually. but most people play private servers
Everquest had the debuffer playstyle as well, and is probably the reason so few other MMOs have it. You had shamans, which combined buffing, debuffing, and healing, and Enchanters, who debuffed, buffed, and crowd controlled. The latter, due to that CC and downtime reduction due to a mana regen buff line, is why WoW, and subsequently wannabe WoWs, overreacted. Enchanters were part of what led to the term "the holy trinity", which was not the three roles of DPS, tank, and healer, but rather, three specific classes: Cleric (had a mana efficient heal), Fighter (biggest hp pool to take advantage of said heal), and Enchanter (very strong CC, plus the mana regen buff). There weren't really alternatives to what it offered. Just bards, who were much worse at it and CTS inducing. With how it made Enchanters so desired, pretty much every other MMO severely limited how many mobs any class could control to, well, usually one, maybe two.
CoH was definitely the exception to that, fully embracing the CC with controllers. One of my original characters was an Earth/Radiation controller, and between those two, well, lots of CC and debuffing. Of course, very low offense.
I love your videos so much, it's so nice that you always come at a game from a positive and curious point of view, and you enjoy parts of everything you play, while being critical of issues when needed. It's such a sight for sore eyes in this online landscape of thriving on negativity. You're great!
Couldn't agree more!
@@brindle21 oH MY garsh, this used to be one of my very favorite games ever...I invested A LOT of time playing this on both sides COV and COH...wow. I am so going to enjoy this video!
I came here because I just learnt it is Charlie’s favorite game
Thunderspy has a RGB color picker and lets you customize each minion for your MM! It's impossible to go back from
and a bunch of additonal costume options. and new powersets. they're really doing more to build on the game than anywhere else.
It lets you customize each minion *period* as long as it is targetable/rename-able. Non humanoid pets will break their animations, though, which is understandable but unfortunate
@@swiggydiggyDoes thunder spy have any exclusive story content yet?
@@SoggySoup as far as I know there's stuff planned, but they're currently focusing on making the backend easier to work with so they can streamline future development - the game is kind of a patchy ad-hoc mess and cleaning that up will make EVERYTHING easier to handle.
There's also a question of the effort to replayability ratio - you dont want to spend two weeks putting together and testing a storyline or trial that people blow through in 20 minutes.
Crazy that this game is nearly 20 years old. I was 23 years old when I started playing this game and I'm 42 now. I still have the client installed on my PC, but I haven't logged in in about 6 months. I might hop back in today to hang out with some people in Atlas.
Lol wait is this me? Are you me? This is my same exact circumstance. Lol
Dude this fame got me into mmo's
I was thinking the same
Don't miss out in a Costume Contest Mitch!
At the time I recall spending hours creating new characters. I can remember making a bunch of Space Marines from various Chapters. I can't recall actually doing a single thing in the game or an area or boss, but seeing what you could do with the character creator was a legitimate blast.
This is one of the very few MMOs I genuinely was able to role-play my character in. I even wrote a bunch of one-liners into some macros so semi-randomly my character would spout off things in /say when he used his powers. It was the first and only time I joined a "roleplay" guild in-game. It was fun running around with a bunch of villains, attempting to evade the heroes and enact our nefarious plans. The game has a lot of jank to it now, but the core of it is a superb experience.
I pretty much always stayed in character when playing this game. I was young and naively believed that all role playing games meant actual role play, haha. Those were the good days before I realized just how big a cesspool the internet was and is. But the good thing about CoH is that it wasn’t that hard to find other peeps role playing. True believers till the end of time!
Oh my god, I PLAY on Thunderspy server! The custom powersets and new costume stuff they made are great! Excellent vid, mitch, glad you enjoyed.
It is nice to see a larger content creator talking about the City of Heroes private server, I really like the review.
I thought this game was completely dead, thanks for the info. got to get back on villains
Your editing is awesome and hilarious - Thanks so much for bringing this game back to light Manix! Awesome video man! This game just brings back so many memories.
also this runs super awesome on the steam deck!
Now you HAVE to do City of Villains.
Agreed! I'd like to see him make a character and run through all the red-side content.
:O there's a city of villains too?!
@@MissFirefly11 Yup. Back in the old days. As a villain you were broke out of a big max security prison by an evil organization. There are arcs to win yourself into their ranks. Stories for: sheer power, some for pure evil, others for greed, and more still to undermine thier power. Also you can simply chose violence that day put on the hurt on some idiots. Bank jobs to make, well bank.
Redside has far better story and roleplaying than Blueside imo.
You haven't seen true chaos until you've joined a team of 8 masterminds, each with six pet NPCs, trying to get through a modern office building all at the same time while fighting an absolute horde of villains. Bonus when some of your teammates are levitating and their butt is blocking your view every time you enter a new floor, while your pets are starting the fight without you. Good times!
I think the worst experience I ever had on live was being the only non MM on a full team in one of the Circle of Thorn lairs. I lost track of how many times I got stuck on torches that pets knocked me into! On the other hand, one of my favorite memories was being in Siren's Call as a healer with a full team of MMs, the only villains in there and killing 20-30 heroes the moment they tried to come for us, lol. Back then, you had to buff each character and pet individually instead of hitting all in range. I spent the entire time cycling through and giving everyone speed boost and increase density. I was exhausted by the time we were done!
8 thug masterminds, all with gang war. basically an EDM concert
I used to host runs of a specific Strike Force with full Mastermind teams for fun. There was this mid-level one where the final part needed you to go up a ramp around a platform in the middle of the ocean. The boss is on top, but you need to get your minions up, and the ramp is both very tight and surrounded by jetpacking enemies just close enough to aggrivate stray pets.
I called it the Mastermind boot camp. It was my second favorite thing to do.
8 Mastermind teams absolutely destroy everything in their path though. Like, yeah, it's chaos, but it doesn't matter because everything is going to be dead in the next 5 seconds anyway.
@@kellymurphy1098 MMs that have the support to cap their pets do the highest damage of all classes. Its just that you need a LOT to get those pets capped. A squad of all thugs MM with say, kinetics or something to buff their damage can output insane levels of damage since all MM thug pet auras benefit all other thug MM pets, so their def and acc is maxed out. Its just difficult to get to those levels, and its way easier to make a super scrapper/corruptor/blaster.
We all stood in Atlas Plaza, when the countdown began to shut the game down for good. It was such a sad moment. The private server is terrific, and a lot of old friends are back. Fun and great game.
There's a video of it playing with the Babylon 5 end music somewhere here on TH-cam. Good to play if you get something stuck in your eye that you need to wash out. ;)
I was there. (Wouldn't have missed it.) It's insane that they would shut down a game that was still so popular at the time.
It wasn't at it's peak, but it still had quite a healthy player base.
There's even the option to start as a villain with the expansion city of villains that ks allready implemented with their own zones
CoH/CoV was such an amazing game for its time.
Always loved CoH, and I need to try it again after so long away
Used to absolutely love this game back in the day
Hundreds and hundreds of hours spent playing this game on original release. Had probably the best community of any other game I've played
As a former "TH-cam MMO funny man", I'm loving your stuff. Well done indeed.
Your videos are such a joy to watch. You have a great sense of humor, and have everything very organized, while also feeling fun and enjoyable--like I'm playing the game. :)
I remember seeing copies of City of Heroes/Villains in my local Walmart as a kid. Being a Marvel Comics-obsessed nerd it instantly caught my eye though my budget couldn't afford it. Makes me reminisce on old times when the superhero genre wasn't milked dry by cinema and activism and still had that feeling of being cool and occasionally deep.
Really glad to see that the fans have kept the servers alive, might give me an excuse to go and finally check it out.
As someone who followed CoH before release and played for years, the modern era of super hero games is way better than back in 2004. Back then nearly all super hero games were cash grab garbage. There were a few that broke the mold but we always had to approach a new game with the assumption it wasn't good. Like movie tie in games today; and back then as well. I guess movie games haven't really gotten out of the cash grab phase of IP translation....
Anyway, point is, tody a bad super hero game is the exception, not the expected.
@@Ryoku1 Well I'm sure there's a reason Insomiac's Spider-Man games aren't based on the movies.
And I'm sure that reason has _absolutely nothing_ to do with the MCU and Sony publishing the games...
If you join a server and the player base is sparse and you have to solo, make a scrapper or brute.
Other classes need support(blaster) or are support. Tanks just don’t hit hard enough(there are exceptions).
I think all the classes can do damage if built right but it’s more limiting.
Scrapper is just a well balanced soloer. I got scrapper brain playing one. I joined groups just so I could fight bigger groups.
I beat the tank to take the alpha(he was too slow) and might peel off from the groups to fight alone.
It was all about seeing what I was capable of. Could I beat it.
Defense debuffs were horrible for me.
I like how on the server you were playing on, there was Wolverine, Spiderman, and so forth (as pets/minions), but if anyone creates anything even remotely close to a character from any type of comic, manga, movie, etc., Home Coming cracks down on it and so do some of the players.
This was such a well done video--glad I found this out.
Eh it wasn’t allowed in live either so no use playing with fire. We have enough to worry about with NCSoft looming around let alone Disney.
Yeah no idea why you'd poke a hornet's nest, decide the hornet's nest wasn't satisfying enough to poke, and also throw the hornet's nest at a 1000lb grizzly.
@@SoggySoupi don't think you'd need to worry about disney, it's not like making copyrighted characters in games with customization systems is something you could get a dmca takedown for. Especially since the private servers are completely free
I believe you're forgetting the fact that NCSoft was already sued by Marvel during live because of that very reason. Marvel that is now backed by Disney's legal team. . .
Homecoming is working with the original team and worked out legal terms about using the digital property which includes things like this.
I'm so glad the game is back! What a gem!
Having played since the beginning, until they killed it, I literally had tears in my eyes when I launched it again for the first time in years.
I stood in Atlas Plaza until the servers turned off.
So many of my friends and I put HOURS into this game played the free servers a lot last year. Homecoming really kept me engaged.
I was in the same boat. Lol. So glad I get to play it again. ^_^
I was invited to play on the secret server before SCORE got it and turned it into Homecoming. And on the secret server, you were given all your old characters and SG Bases from your existing Live accounts. It took a week to find, but when I logged in and saw them again a few years after Sunset, I was all tears. Emotional Damage.
Where do I download it?
@@Hackurai_Gaming do a search for coh homecoming and it'll come up. 🙂
LETS GOOO BEST MMO IS BACK
At this point, I don't think there's an MMO you *can't* make look fun and funny. Fantastic job as always, Mitch.
I've still never max leveled a character in CoH, I'm sure I'll make it one day, but making alts is just so much fun in this game
It was the MMO I loved the most growing up, too bad I don't have the time or attention span to play MMOs anymore
I am stuck in the same boat. I have been playing on the private servers since 2019 and I still do not have one max level character due to making alts.
I played it on release and didn't make max for like 3 years :D it was a little easier in the early days because teaming up would create and xp tether. So my character would be parked in front of the tram station while my insomniac friend would run missions and street sweeps. So i'd level just standing there. She loved it because people would dance around me making a little party on the other computer screen. later they made that teather a distance thing, so I took up flight and would just /follow them all night like a balloon.
But maxing them out is like giving them a rebirth, with the enhancement sets.
@@ControlledChaosGaming I miss the marvel online too
@@midnightblue3285 there has yet to be a true Marvel mmo. There was a Marvel ARPG that was online, but that only let's you play heroes in the marvel universe and not create your own heroe.
I played City of Villains back then for the pvp. They made city of Heroes/Villains basically work as a factions system for open world pvp. It was one of the best mmo pvp experiences I've had to date!
Bloody Bay and sirens call being the best PvP zones, loved them.
Loved the video! I play on Homecoming server but played it during live as a teen as well and to this day it's still the most fun game I've ever played. The base building system players have expanded on and if you look up some of the Supergroup Base builds for CoH on youtube there's some incredibly amazing builds! Character creation is amazing and the devs are still coming out with new costume pieces, powersets, and even taskforce missions to this day. There's so many layers to this game and it has always had such a great community. Always a pleasure playing this game.
What I also really liked about COH were the biographies you could write in your profile. Some of the ideas were very creative. It was often nice to read them.
I was there at the beginning. City of Heroes was my first MMO and will forever hold a place in my heart and not just the game, I was part of a fantastic Supergroup, The 47 Ties, with some brilliant people. Fool, it just wasn't the same without you.
The revitalised servers are great but it's just not the same so I'll leave you all with this...
Go. Hunt. Kill Skuls
Ah, I loved playing this game. I played a villain named Evil Abe Lincoln, an undead mastermind who summoned the bodies of John Wilkes Booth and other notables from his past to do his bidding. Truly, the customization of your hero in this game is second to none.
I just discovered this series. So happy I did. You are truly funny. While not an overly nostalgic person, I do enjoy the occasional look back at games from the past. COH was a game that I got into while living in a bachelor pad with 2 other guys and a girl. We all had our own PC's set up in our respective rooms, and even had a 5th for my brother who would come over, almost every day. We used to game from the minute we got home from work until we passed out. Thanks for this comical trip down memory lane.
Hey I know it's a bit late but I just found this video and I wanted to share some more info for folks. There's 3 main community servers with their own quirks and changes and additions.
The largest, since it was the first, is Homecoming. Homecoming has tons and tons of new playable missions and group content and powersets as it was worked on for years before being made public. It boasts the largest playerbase by far, with most days clocking in around 1,000 players at peak over it's multiple server instances. It is the slowest to add content compared to others, but the stuff they do add is high quality. It probably has some of the most changes from the original game, with tons of QoL and ease-of-play features and additions, so it is a lot easier to get around and do stuff. If you want the biggest server with the most polish, Homecoming is the one (It's also the one I play on)
Thunderspy is the server featured in this video, and it's one of the most experimental servers, adding lots of new costume pieces, powers, and systems that Homecoming doesn't have. It is probably the #2 server in terms of population (I don't know for sure) and as I said features lots of new player powers and customization, including customizing your pets on the Mastermind archetype which was not a thing the game originally featured. Now one thing I will say is that, if you saw the logo, yes Thunderspy did come from 4chan, as it was originally the server made by the /coxg/ community, and features the least amount of moderation. People aren't regularly running around in-game yelling racial slurs, but if that association bothers you, keep it in mind (and maybe avoid the Discord server).
Rebirth is the other main server, and tries to stick to a more vanilla take on the game. It also adds new additions and changes faster than Homecoming due to a shared code base with other servers, but doesn't go as crazy with new powers, systems changes, etc. It's about to get a big new content drop adding new end-game powers and even a new in-game randomized event which is really cool, I'm downloading it to try it out myself. I believe (again, not certain on this) that it's the lowest population server of the three, but still worth checking out if you don't mind playing a less crowded server. (It's also get the best website of the three IMO, as it replicates the original game's site before it shut down lol)
City of Heroes is still the stick by which I measure every single game. I feel like it's just that good.
AWESOME! One of the best MMORPGs ever, and still is! 🥰
This game has 2 major draws: A legitimate superhero/villain world, and the seemingly infinite freedom for character design. You come up with a cool hero or villain idea, you can most likely make it.
For example there is a power set that's all about zombie pets. I combined it with the dark miasma power set of which I made some powers look like sand, then zombie and pharaoh costume pieces and what I got was an undead tomb king.
Oh man, this hit me right in my nostalgia. CoH was my first MMO. I found a great supergroup and had years of fun. When it shut down some of us tried other options, but nothing had the same community feel with no one interested in doing PvE. They only wanted to PvP and were not very open to newcomers.
I found GW2 was the best of the MMO’s I tried after city of heroes.
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The main shards still have quite a lot more than the ones like thunderspy, so you know. I'm glad that you enjoyed the game and made such a fun overview. I have been playing this game since 2 months after its release in 2004, and have no desire to stop playing now. Many of the base items were unlocked before tspy existed, and I can happily drop that my base was used as a testing ground for some of them ;D Even if the game is showing a little age in some ways, it's still more satisfying to just drop in for 20 minutes and feel like you've actually done something - whether it's good or evil.
I was in the CoH beta and played for quite a while before quitting it. My main, Farm-Aid, was in the group shot on the box. He was a very short red and white robotic cow that was a healer and used TK and teleportation. Those two powers were way OP in beta. They went through a lot of tweaking before the game was released.
In the begowning, TK would allow me to hold any boss so my team mate could beat the tar out of them. One of it's sub powers allowed me to let other people fly ,,,until I turned it off.
The whole City is inside of a force field bubble that we normally cannot cross. In the early days of beta, I could teleport outside the boundaries. I could also teleport anyone else out there even if they didn't want to go. If I left them there, the only way back in was to exit the game and restart. There were many other things that could be done and it's why betas are so important.
I just installed it , and searched for a review
2 (and a half) things made CoH my favorite RPG. 1) Costumes!! Everything was just available, it was simply down to you how you wanted to look, and it was GLORIOUS. 1.5) Costume contests! Like an Asmongold transmog contest, except it was open to everyone, and people ran them all the time, and with design options just open, you didn't have to find grind high level raid bosses to get your shoes. 2) The combat was just so perfectly satisfying. Player animations, particle effects, enemy responses. All in perfect unison. When I force blast an enemy, it feels like I just knocked him on his ass, not like I just triggered ability #2 for 16 damage and a status icon.
The costume contests reminds me of something people would do in pixie hollow called fashion contests. They could vary a bit but usually they had multiple rounds and themes that the judge would choose. It's cool that no matter the genre of game, if there's clothing you can mix and match there's a sub-community for that (like "fashion hunters" in monster hunter, for example). Sorry if my comment is a bit rambly
This unlocked core memories, good ones. That familiar lighting zap sound...man. This was my first MMO, I remember playing for something like 6 months before WoW came out. Played both for a long while but I ended up struggling to quit CoH. I don't think there is any other game to this day that I had spent more time on. If I wasn't running pve content, there was a much more social aspect as you could literally hang out in areas for hours at a time talking and shooting the shit. While super dated now, it wile always have a very special place in my heart and jumping into it again last year was unbelievably nostalgic and I am glad I did.
Another fabulous character😂 I love how you always put so much effort and time into each video, the quality really shows. Also, I loved your little bunker home you made, the wall text made it really feel like home no doubt 😂 haha
I must have sunk hundreds of hours into this game back in the day, great community of players. I still have the original install media and some small figures for the game that came with some of the later game media for City of villains. When they did the Beta, the last few minutes before they closed the servers in preperation for the new start had loads of people standing in Atlas Part letting off their power like fireworks. Still have some screen grabs of that. Good game for its time.
Awesome video ! i would really call the Police if i would see Captain Lawsuit flying on a Carpet through the cityt... okay may by the artillery also would be a good call too... 🤔
The reaction from the Civ walking by was pretty much spot on.
Oh man this takes me back, I played this along with Runescape for so many years as a kid. Played this with the family though mostly, runescape was my personal mmo(still play it off and on with OldSchool Runescape). City of Villains was also fun.
Good times.
I remember when this game was live, people on the forums kept asking for a teabag emote. So, they got a teabag emote: they dip a teabag repeatedly into a comicly oversized cup of tea. That's the sense of humor we have going into this. In the early days this was a surprisingly well supported game when it came to associated media. There was a physical map of the train system in the standard edition (my dog got his teeth into it, RIP), and a small PVP comic book about the characters from that webcomic playing the game. For the first year there was a monthly comic book that ended the arc with a character yelling at the sky, "Level 15 scrapper LFG!" and had a small newspaper for Atlas Park covering the final pages of each issue. There was a prequel novel about Statesman. And for extra fun, Mercedes Lackey was a player. Her Secret Wars books might look surprisingly familiar to any City of Heroes players.
Your videos are amazing! Please keep up the great work!
I still have screenshots galore of my city of villains character and miss her so much. Bank heists were a joy to do with my friends and getting my paragon power storyline done was happiness.
1833 screenshots here, plus a ton more "lore" shots where I took a screenshot of each of the story bits.
Love your videos man!
Great review😀
Captain Lawsuit is the hero only a small town might reluctantly work with..
"A stolen child's chemistry set" so was the child stolen or the chemistry set?
Knowing Lawsuit most likely both..
Hahaha😂
I wanna play like the good old days
The Rebirth Server aims to keep in the live dev design philosophies, but that doesn't mean it's static and unevolving.
I ALMOST logged back in to play. Good work! Some really good laughs in this clip!
As one of the testers for this game when it was still active this was fun to watch. It is great to see a game that I helped on still being played.
I was not a day one player, but I started a few months after it opened and I was there the night it closed.
The game has always been about the players - I have many friends still out there online that I met here. So glad my friend introduced it to me because I enjoyed it for years.
This also makes me all nostalgic and will possibly check out a fan server I. The near future.
Thanks for the video!
My friends played this when it was still online and I came in at the tail end but didn't get to play much before it was shut down. My only real memory of playing was a costume contest in the city that was interrupted by a Rikti invasion. My less than stellar computer provided a robust 1 fps with flashes of color and intermittent sound. I think I helped in the fight. I couldn't tell. But it was lots of fun while it lasted.
So glad I found this! I used to love City of Heroes and City of Villains, and didn't know there were community servers still going! Going to have see if I still fit into those spandex...
just came across your channel mate - loving these dives into cheapo early noughties MMOs -
great selection of janky Poundstretcher/Walmart bargain bin titles!
getting major JoshStrifeHayes vibes and loving every second of it :) keep it up!
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I’ve so many fond memories of CoH. It has some great team play. You didn’t mention that missions auto scale depending on team size which is a great, almost never seen feature in MMOs. Thanks for covering this. But are you sure you don’t have something wrong with your computer? I’ve never experienced any of the NPC skating or dropping through the worlds that you always seem to encounter. As amusing as it is 🙂
Later on they let you set team size and difficulty even by yourself.
Mayn, I loved City of Villains, felt like there was no one else playing - later learnt there was more people on the Heroes side back in the day (it was 2007 at the time)
Cool to see some fans brought it back to life, seeing alot of MMOs being rekindled lately
yeah made pvping really fun. especially the last zone, where the environment changed depending on who had control of the nodes. i remember having a mines and my ninja dark mastermind out and about and set up a trap with a lot of mines and me standing out in the open and my minions off hiding. one of the top players on hero side was an invis poison scrapper. never saw him but the mines did and boom... he messaged me great trap it will only work once.... he then hunted me if i was on. nice game of cat and mouse we had.
I played on the public beta for City of Heroes back when. I have a lot of fun memories from the game. Thanks for covering it!
Bless you dude. Your commentary was way to funny. I laughed way to hard at this, I loved the game when it was live, miss it every day
Captain Lawsuit has to get himself a sidekick, Petty Grievance Boy!
Had a ton of fun with that game when it launched and for a few months following. It died fast for me and WoW and EQ2 were right around the corner.
It’d be fun to see it again though.
Thank you for giving CoH a deep dive. I agree that it is still a good play today. CoH and CoV were absolute bangers back in the day, a really refreshing and surprisingly long lived game with a strong community that also had a strong European presence too. When it re-emerged I gave it a nostalgic spin, remade some of my favourite characters and tried a few new ones. I was lucky enough to find a sever with a high EU timezone presence and was able to do some of the high level raid content I missed.
It's definitely aged, obviously. But if you do have some chums that fancy a bit of retro you'll likely have fun. Honestly I'd recommend giving it a go just to have a crack at the character gen even.
Played for years immediately after launch. Thanks for the great video. I do hope you have a City of Villains playthrough coming as well.
So glad to finally see you tried it out. While it definitely has its issues, I love this game so much. No other MMO truly feels like it, especially at max level with set bonuses. You truly feel like a superhero at that point, shrugging off most punishment with ease and clearing hordes of enemies.
This doesn’t even look that bad after 20 years. This was the best team up game I’ve ever played. I loved how the different classes had distinct roles, never made sense to me why games moved toward omni-classes. It was so fun recruiting controllers, tanks, blasters, etc in order to deal with certain missions. Tanking absolutely ruled in this game too.
Tanks were so strong they were nerfed over and over and were still unkillable.
I preferred just getting two defenders/controllers then fill the rest with scrappers and blasters.
I found tanks often slowed things down and were often divas. Brutes helped because then it kinda taught how to play. Defenders and controllers had ways to increase damage of teammates as well.
I did have people complain about the lack of a tank but never when the team was in action.
One of the most bonkers thing I saw were teams of 8 defenders.
@@jeremymullens7167 diva tanks, lol. Yea they were always in demand.
My favourite game growing up. My first mmo, used to play with my two best friends. I still remember so much from it
Appreciate your perspective on my favorite MMO. Hard to believe its been almost 20 years since I first set virtual foot in Paragon City...
This game will always have a place in my heart, both it and WoW. Just a lot of memories, great music, great community. I will always log in from time to time just to visit, it makes me happy. 😊 Also, playing the City of Villains beta way back when was an awesome experience. This game is so old and yet holds up great in terms of just being fun to play.
Its back officially could we get an awesome celebration comedy video sir?
This brings me back, I even had inking done on one of my heroes!
I called mine: Eearthen Dude & Blaster Unit 1
It was such a great game!
CoH was my favorite MMO with such an amazing character creator which you could also write a bio for once you get in game to give more life to your character. I enjoyed it as long as I could. I often think about it from time to time, which is what brought me here. I truly miss this one
So come on back and play! They've added many items to costumes and on Homecoming - Excelsior sever you can always find a team!
If there was a way to recode this into the unreal 5 engine, this game would kill any current mmo! I played this relentlessly until WoW came out.
I could be wrong about this but I don't think they are aloud to something to do with copyright laws I think NCsoft might still own the rights I don't know its been so long since ive checked on anything about the servers we have the source code we can put it on unreal engine .
I didn't know that there were functional community servers. I've heard something about it but they're were on alpha stage. Glad to see I can come back to City of Heroes.
The main community created server is the Homecoming version of the game, which recently obtained the *actual license* to develop and host the game. It's the closest to the original game's experience, only having a handful of custom content, and most of that content exists tastefully; it doesn't use copyrights from other media and isn't as "fan-ficky" as other servers seem to be. As it stands, with the license they're now legally allowed to modify the game and add new content, so more stuff is going to be added as time moves forward.
Even so, for the most part all the community created servers are valid and enjoyable to play on. But if you want a for sure sustainable experience where you know the game won't suddenly just be taken down one day, then Homecoming is the best bet thanks to that license.
Just randomly saw this on my feed and thought I would check it out. I found out it was revived a couple years ago, been playing it on and off but I always enjoy it when i am playing. I often times find myself making new heroes just to make them because of how extensive the customization is.
Hopefully this vid gets more people to come to thunderspy