For all those wondering what conflicts would happen if one player has a non-wearable item in the same DLC slot as someone who has a wearable item, I've made a follow-up Short to showcase the exact scenario of someone wearing the item in that slot: th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
I was wondering what would happen with interactable furniture- for example, the DS bench. If you place and sit on the bench in one game and another player with a different smaller/non-interactable item in that slot comes in, what does that look like? Also, are there guides anywhere for modding these items in? I looked a bit and mostly just found dead links.
the modders were also probably on there toes after all the wild world shenanigans. that was honestly really cool of them to be looking out for folks like that.
My online experience with city folk as a kid would have been way different if that was the case. I can only imagine the types of items people would insert to ruin save files.
Back in the day I got my hands on a blue lightsaber, dimentio mask, and a blue pikmin cap. I still have them on my city folk file, but I never knew how the items were added to the game until now! Very cool video
i was fully expecting one of the reasons for the nondisclosure to be fear of people spreading viruses/ways to actually harm peoples' consoles through unofficial items, but all those concerns are just as valid. i hadn't even thought of some of those complications
I’d never heard of this! That’s cool and scary at the same time that you could spread items like this. One question, though: What if a slot was occupied by a four-space furniture item in one copy of the game, but a one-space in another?
Cool that this video found its way to you! To answer your question, it appears that if a DLC slot is conflicted between a 1x1 item and a 2x1 or 2x2 item, they will render appropriately, but the collision stays respective. That is, if you visit a house with their 2x2 DLC item placed down, but you have a 1x1 item in your DLC slot, the 1x1 item will render in the top left corner, but the 2x2 collision stays and you'll be blocked by invisible walls. In a similar manner, if you visit a house with their 1x1 DLC item placed down, but you have a 2x2 item in your DLC slot, the 2x2 item will render, but you can walk through most of it since the collision is based off the original 1x1. I also showcased what would happen if you had a non-wearable item conflict with a wearable item in a follow-up Short: th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
The funny thing is that an HDLC/Official DLC item conflict actually DID happen! A common HDLC item occupied the slot that Nintendo was trying to distribute the Ladder Shades to, so they had to end and restart the distribution, presumably in a different slot.
Weird how Nintendo didn't put any checks in place that overwrote items that didn't match some official checksum Not only would it prevent modders from accidentally borking other people's saves, but it could also prevent and fix corrupted items if the Wii got unhooked too early, or if the owner has a flaky internet connection.
To be fair, this was their first home console with full online features. Lots of growing pains are to be expected. Nowadays if you so much as go online with a modded Switch it's an insta-ban, so they have improved.
If people inserted... explicit HDLC into city folk back then,, I can only imagine the PR nightmare it would be for Nintendo if an unsuspecting kid's save file got infected with it.
Ayy, I got the Dimentio Mask. This brought me back. Back then I only participated in hispanic online communities so no one had any idea how those worked or if they'd be potentially harmful to your file. Some people pannicked when they got the Dimentio Mask as it was the most infamous one of the bunch and weren't exactly sure if their files were fucked or something
People losing them minds over dimentio's face is both hilarious and sad. Imagine thinking your file was absolutely fucked just because you saw some weird mask in your catalog that you'd never seen before on any official release? Feels like something dimentio himself would pull to mess with people
I remember connecting with people on City Folk when I was 8 or 9 on forum sites. I was so young that I thought the HDLC were just real items I had never seen before when it "infected" my game. It wasn't until I tried to sell the lightsaber my friend gave me that I realized it was hacked.
Me too - I was 10 when I got City Folk. I had a lightsaber and in the city folk community that was a rare gem, like an NFT. I actually ran a contest in 2010 or so to gamble off this lightsaber for more rare items and it got a lot of publicity at the time.
3:31 I thought the Dimentio mask was a real clothing item in the game for years! I can't believe I didn't know this was a hacked DLC considering I knew about the other hacked DLCs before...
Let’s go to the City is such an underrated Animal Crossing. I did a let’s play last year and came across some of these items. Once they’ve copied over, some even appear in Ables. It’s crazy 😅 Thanks for another great video.
Ah yes, the lightsaber- I remembered showing it off as a warning to those who ran in my town. I used to mod ACCF heavily back in the day so I knew of the HDLC, but never knew how it got into those who didn't mod their games. An interesting tidbit to remember from here out.
"I remembered showing it off as a warning to those who ran in my town." Did you ever end up hitting anyone with it? When you were bored, did you hit trees and rocks and Redd with it?
@@KopperNeoman stop being a fucking weirdo when noone fucking asked your opinion about this shit. shut the fuck up and go be homophobic or whatever somewhere were we dont have to see it.
@@KopperNeoman I feel I gotta gatekeep you from the freaking internet because you've obviously seen so many twitter arguments that it resulted in a dreadfully serious speech impairment.
I am so happy you covered this topic. As a kid who grew up with all the games I always had questions about seed items (which you covered recently) and the hacked custom items in city folk. There was this dude who made TH-cam videos back when this game was relevant and he always had a lightsaber and I always wondered how you could get one lmao
OMG thanks for making this video. I remember as a kid hearing of "Triple Pokeballs" but could never find anything on it or how to get it without wi-fi.
3:58 Oh wow, did not expect to see myself and my friend Chris into one of your videos! It's funny because i have been binge watching your vids lately so I was really shocked lol. Great video btw, hope to see more ACCF in the future!
Honestly pretty respectful gatekeeping from the modders, I can only imagine the chaos that would ensue if *those* type of modders found out how to insert there stuff in the game, Tortimer would be pleased, simply to say
also for anyone wondering about “Tortimer would be pleased” some random news broadcast who literally never played animal crossing thought that NPCs were real people and accused Tortimer as “the man from California the police are looking for”
I disagree. It's framed as respectful gatekeeping, but doesn't solve any issues whilst giving the modding team unnecessary power. The issue was not how to distribute items, but how to format and create them. A plan is laid out in the post to release software capable of creating modding items, but just having distribution be handled by DsPet. 20+ years of modding drama has probably jaded me, and I don't remember hearing about issues with this, but if someone suggested that today for New Horizons I'd be suspicious. You'd just be delaying the inevitable and giving yourself an early monopoly on modded items.
@@squabbbb That's not how this could have worked though. If there was a simple program you could use to make a model and save it as a DLC file, you could literally just paste the bytes of the DLC file you made into your City Folk save file. That's the "distribution" method, because the vanilla Wi-Fi connection multiplayer will permanently add your DLC slot data to any player you connect to, so long as that other player has an empty slot where you have an item. If it's in the appropriate position, congratulations! You've now created a "virus" that spreads to anyone you connect to over wifi, and then anyone who happens to connect to *those* people too. One dude making a "lol funny penis hat" would potentially spread that item to thousands of copies of the game if that one dude happened to be active in the City Folk communities at the time. And of course, since the slots are limited and collide with official distributions, and the only way to remove items from your slots is via editing your save file, a bad actor could put that penis hat in slot 20 and just wait for the (completely invisible) save to spread, until Nintendo distributed an item in Slot 20 and anyone "infected" with the penis hat would receive a penis hat from Nintendo in the mail. Penis hat isn't even the worst you could do. You could create an item that crashes the game when viewed, or distribute the same kind of town-ruining "seed" items that plagued Wild World.
@@squabbbb It's way better to have a trusted team distributing items that everyone would want versus letting anyone make things that could potentially brick save files... or spread indecent things. Remember, the only ones who hate gatekeeping are the ones the gate was built to keep away from the vulnerable children.
@@KopperNeomanI'm glad you can make such broad blanket statements about people's intentions. This is why modding knowledge eventually disappears, or undumped prototypes become lost--because some self-appointed arbiter of a whole community wanted power and came up with an excuse why only they should have access to it, and then they leave, or the cartridge dies. I find that pretty gross, but hey, whatever makes you feel good.
i'll never forget my shock upon walking into my unmodded save file one random day only to find the Dimentio mask sitting as a purchasable item. I was aware of its existence but there is when I found out they could spread over playing online lmao
I wanna know what would happen if two players DLCs conflicted in a way where the item type was different. Would a player try to swing a DS desk as an axe?
In this case, the axe would just be invisible and it would like the player is swinging air. It works similarly to your head being rendered invisible in this follow-up Short I made: th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
Gosh it kinda hurts a bit, I genuinely had no idea there was any DLC items in City Folk at the time I was playing it around 2008-2012, I looooveed the Nintendo themed items in the GameCube version so much! Then finding out there was even a few sneaky modders that considerately didn't let the secret on how they did it is so fascinating! Looking forward to more from you Hunter 😊
I was extremely active in the City Folk multiplayer community back in the day, primarily on the old Animal Crossing Community forums. I was obsessed with it, I had the whole setup... USB keyboard hooked up and voice chatting with Wii Speak and everything. I recall that I had a bunch of these hacked items, though the two I remember the best are the Lightsaber and the Dimentio mask. One of my friends on the site wore that *all* the time. He hosted a birthday party in his City Folk town, which he had hacked to make the layout super weird and wacky for that day. That memory always really sticks out to me.
This answers something I've been wondering for years!! I remember visiting a hacked town on accident when i was a kid and brought some gold roses and lightsabers home and thought it was cool and didn't think twice about it. But nowadays with my knowledge on how mods work in most games, I always thought it was weird how I was able to actually have it on my end. This explains everything after so many years, it's nice to have some closure on that, great vid!!
Hey man, I just want you to know that I'm not a programmer, modder, or otherwise, but I'm a big Animal Crossing fan and get a ton of enjoyment watching your stuff. Keep it up!
Every Animal Crossing game has allowed you to create customized designs that you can then wear on your clothes / hat. The model is slightly different in City Folk, but you could theoretically design the Ash Ketchum hat yourself and just wear it around in-game. New Leaf and New Horizons allowed you to download other people's designs and Ash's hat was a pretty popular one!
Did you share your game with someone else or get it secondhand for a system that stores save info on the cartridge instead of the console? That might explain it
I love how consistent your content is. Even when covering games that I haven't had the chance to play you still make it so interesting. Absolutely love your channel! Hope you're feeling proud of yourself. Also, completely unrelated, but NEW JINGLE!!! I like it!! ^^
I’ve been waiting for this video! I played this one the most as a kid and I was so fascinated by the HDLC items and always wanted to know more about how they worked. It’s so interesting that the modders were able to prevent the dlc slots to be completely griefed.
6:08 What if two different copies had items of two different categories occupying the same DLC slot? For example, what if Player A had a headgear item in slot 80, and Player B had a furniture item in slot 80? If Player A visited Player B's town, wearing the headgear, how would it render in Player B's game?
I remember this, I got the lightsaber, the Pokeballs and a metal blue Pikmin hat from other online players! Back then I had no idea how they were able to get these in the game, I thought it was dark magic lol. Thanks for making this :)
Wow! I played city folk so much as a kid and loved going to other towns. I used animal crossing community to meet so many people. I remember items like the pikmin hats, lightsaber, and spinning pokeballs as a kind of secret people would pass on to one another. It’s really interesting to see how it was working behind the scenes. I always wondered where these things came from.
This is going to sound strange, but I find all the creepypasta's etc of games; especially Animal Crossing - not to be creepy in anyway whatsoever. However, your channel has really shown me the strange and very real darkness of AC. Not dark in a existential sense and more dark in a criminal/grey market sense. The amount of underground hacking and exploits these games had is actually really surprising. Thank you so much for being such an incredible channel, your content is constantly getting more esoteric and interesting.
Huzzah, a new Hunter video. I live in the UK so my version is called 'Animal Crossing: Let's go to the city!' and I do not call it that at all. City Folk is an infinity better name. Also did you change the intro music? It sounds really good.
the intro music is 5 P.M. - City Folk from the games sound track. all accf soundtrack songs are on youtube. the games soundtrack makes me so happy yet sad i cant describe the levels of nostalgia from these songs...
@@jordanfourtwenty9694 thanks! I'm actually collecting old consoles and games, and the animal crossing games are my favourite. They're so nostalgic even though I've never played them before. I've been playing the first one on the GameCube mainly and it's been so much fun!
Imagine my surprise seeing the Dimentio mask here, I had NO idea that it was hacked DLC. I remember distinctly getting it way back in the day, but I'm not sure how. That's actually hilarious
I'm curious what would happen if someone had a HDLC for a furniture item in one slot and another had HDLC for a wearable item in the same slot. Would someone's game crash or would something weird happen? I imagine this is another reason modders kept tight control of the process.
Used to be obsessed with this game and its modding community as a kid! I think I inadvertently discovered a bug/exploit that I've never seen documented online anywhere before? I had an Action Replay Wii which was essentially just an SD card with some maxed-out save files on it, but it was also somehow able to override the copy protection that City Folk saves normally have. Me and my friend used this to run the same save file on both of our Wiis, and playing online together while having the same save had some pretty crazy results - moving furniture in eachother's houses was possible and would result in the furniture being duplicated as it was dragged, when my friend left the online session he wasn't able to save or do anything in his own town since the game thought it was still in online play, etc. I was 11 at the time so never really managed to record it or understand what was happening, but we had so much fun exploring and messing with it. :)
Back in the day I had most of the hacked items. In the Italian community there was a small group of modders that distributed these items for free (and other things like free bells) and taught you how to mod your city. They even had a lab for modded villagers ahah I really miss those days!
City Folk was the first animal crossing game I ever played and I have so much nostalgia attached to it! I knew about the wii connect items and the hacked lightsabers, but I had no idea how the tech side of it worked so it was fun to learn about it. I'd love to see you cover city folk again
I have so much memories playing this game online as a kid, seeing a light saber for the first time blew me away as it was my first actual experience with hacking in a video game and the person holding it ended up giving it away, i'd still have it if I didnt wipe my saves woops I later learned how they were made tho its always cool to see the subject being brought up !!
Hi Hunter! I really enjoy your Animal Crossing content and have a video suggestion. It would be an information guide about having the worst town ever! Villager reactions (if any), town hall reactions, and so forth. I was most inspired by the rafflesia plant since it's a sign of a poor town, exclusive to ACWW, ACCF, and ACNL. You could research the minimum requirements for the worst town conditions in each game, and/or the funniest way to get the worst town conditions. If you see this, thank you for your consideration!
I was 10 years old in 2009, and I regularly played CF online with other kids. This is back when it was less common for strangers to play games like that online together, especially kids. I remember one of my buddies gave me two lightsabers that we duplicated using that Wi-Fi truck. I felt like a real gamer! ❤
1:16 Wait, so Nintendo WAS the pioneer of the infamous: "Disc Locked Content" or "DLC"?. Tell Capcom that I'm sorry, and when I thought that they was the first in introduce that concept...
There was a reason why City Folks is my favorite online Animal Crossing game because you had interesting things happening that even New Leaf and New Horizons which is lacking compared to City Folks.
i didnt know that distributions even worked like this, as in the time period i was playing city folk originally, im pretty sure i still had dialup internet (i lived in the middle of nowhere, mind you), so i couldnt have gotten any dlc items or visited anyone's towns
So I have a question, let's say Player A modded in a custom axe in DLC slot 10 and visited Player B who had a DLC furniture item in DLC slot 10, what would happen? The DLCs can't overwrite each other so would Player A look like they're holding the furniture item like an axe or would it be invisible?
I remember dealing with this back in the day. On one hand there was a wow factor of seeing people make their own items, I was impressed every time they updated their list with a new item, but for those of us that knew the repercussions of having these items, it was also kind of spooky. I ended up with a bunch of these on my game either way. Even back then as a teen, I was confused why Nintendo handled the dlc items in such an exploitable way.
Wow, this video was a fascinating dive into the unique DLC mechanics of City Folk! It’s interesting to see how Nintendo's system, designed to add post-launch content, ended up being a double-edged sword. On one hand, the ability to introduce custom items like lightsabers and iconic character outfits sounds awesome, but the way it could unintentionally spread hacked DLC and conflict with official content must have been frustrating for a lot of players. The part about conflicting items across players' towns really shows how complex and, at times, chaotic this system was. I had no idea that there were only 256 slots shared between both official and custom DLC items. It makes sense now why modders were hesitant to make the process public. Thanks for highlighting these hidden aspects of the game! I always thought City Folk was an underappreciated gem in the series, and this just adds to the legacy of how quirky and experimental it was. Keep up the great work!
I'm a bit sad because City Folk was my first and favorite Animal Crossing game. When I was younger, it felt so expansive and magical. It's too bad I was never able to get these items.
I played a lot of City Folk online as a kid and I remember someone giving me one of the lightsabers lol. Really interesting how people were able to create custom DLC like that during the life of the game.
I also didn't play City Folk much. It felt a lot like it was just Wild World but on Wii and a couple new features. I didn't want to "start over", so I just kept playing Wild World!
City Folk is the only Animal Crossing game I have no experience with, so this was an extra interesting video. What a fascinating little bit of video game DLC history!
One question: What happens in case of DLC item mismatch when the items do two totally different things? Your example showed two heads, but what would have happened if one was the giant Nintendo DS and the other one the lightsaber? Would the player that has the lightsaber suddenly hold the DS?
In these cases, some items are typically rendered completely invisible since it doesn't have the programming or ID to be held or worn. I looked into this further and made a follow-up Short on what would happen in this scenario. th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
Oh, so it is! I was sent that little clip on Discord but wasn’t sure of the origin of it. I’ll add some credit to you in the description, but I hope you don’t mind me using your footage for that short little segment. 🙇♂️
@@Hunter-R. Of course, please feel free to use any clips! I was actually told about your channel by the guy pushing me in that clip. We love your content :)
Your video are so nice because they are easy to understand to smooth brained people like me who know absolutely nothing how programming and coding works xD
Soooo what happens when someone has a slot occupied with a furniture item, and a player visits that town while their same slot is occupied by a shirt. A shirt that they are wearing. How would that render on the copy of the game with the slot occupied by a furniture item? Would it just crash, I assume? Or is there some other effect or built-in safety for this?
Shirts would default to the "Moldy Shirt" (0xA9E0) if another player was wearing a shirt that your game considers a different type of item. This is actually the same shirt that Jack dresses you with if you fail to give him candy on Halloween, so I think it's some sort of unintended failsafe related to the players having an invalid shirt equipped.
So how would items render if they shared the same slot but weren't the same type of item? Like if person A had the the lightsaber and it shared the same slot as player B's pikmin hat, would B see A wearing a pikmin hat every time A pulled out their lightsaber? Or would B see nothing at all with A looking like they are holding an invisible axe? What about if A and B had furniture of different sizes sharing the same slot. Would person A be running into collision that B can't see, would the collisions combine together, or what?
city folk is admittedly my least favorite of the main animal cranimal games, but this dlc system is actually kinda sick i am not gonna lie. honestly, i would kill to see/make a game where items were distributed like that by players officially. like have official items but then be like "btw here are some player made items if you want more." there should probably be some form of moderation, at least on the client side, but I think it would be a super super neat feature
For all those wondering what conflicts would happen if one player has a non-wearable item in the same DLC slot as someone who has a wearable item, I've made a follow-up Short to showcase the exact scenario of someone wearing the item in that slot: th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
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I was wondering what would happen with interactable furniture- for example, the DS bench. If you place and sit on the bench in one game and another player with a different smaller/non-interactable item in that slot comes in, what does that look like?
Also, are there guides anywhere for modding these items in? I looked a bit and mostly just found dead links.
the modders were also probably on there toes after all the wild world shenanigans. that was honestly really cool of them to be looking out for folks like that.
looking out for CITY folks 😂😂😂 BWAAHAHAHHAHA 😂
i was thinking the same thing. i can only imagine what kinda nonsense you can get away with with items that spread like that
My online experience with city folk as a kid would have been way different if that was the case. I can only imagine the types of items people would insert to ruin save files.
Gatekeeping is based. (unless done for political reasons - and no, keeping politburos out of your hobby is not political)
@@KopperNeoman ok. im gatekeeping you out of this comment section for being a "politburo" and bringing this up even though nobody asked
I love that you add a small pause for the nameless 'Resident' instead of just skipping over them or referring to them as "No Name" or something lol
I love that someone else noticed that!
I was just on my way to comment this exact thing, lol
He's just living his best dummied-out life.
Am I stupid? Where is it?
@@artey6671 8:48 "EXPLODING BEARs, Holly Molly, , Eidrynn, TheAmazingWolfie"
Back in the day I got my hands on a blue lightsaber, dimentio mask, and a blue pikmin cap. I still have them on my city folk file, but I never knew how the items were added to the game until now! Very cool video
I always just thought the lightsabers were just some blue sticks that were in the game but unused.
i was fully expecting one of the reasons for the nondisclosure to be fear of people spreading viruses/ways to actually harm peoples' consoles through unofficial items, but all those concerns are just as valid. i hadn't even thought of some of those complications
I’d never heard of this! That’s cool and scary at the same time that you could spread items like this. One question, though: What if a slot was occupied by a four-space furniture item in one copy of the game, but a one-space in another?
Cool that this video found its way to you! To answer your question, it appears that if a DLC slot is conflicted between a 1x1 item and a 2x1 or 2x2 item, they will render appropriately, but the collision stays respective. That is, if you visit a house with their 2x2 DLC item placed down, but you have a 1x1 item in your DLC slot, the 1x1 item will render in the top left corner, but the 2x2 collision stays and you'll be blocked by invisible walls. In a similar manner, if you visit a house with their 1x1 DLC item placed down, but you have a 2x2 item in your DLC slot, the 2x2 item will render, but you can walk through most of it since the collision is based off the original 1x1.
I also showcased what would happen if you had a non-wearable item conflict with a wearable item in a follow-up Short: th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
The funny thing is that an HDLC/Official DLC item conflict actually DID happen! A common HDLC item occupied the slot that Nintendo was trying to distribute the Ladder Shades to, so they had to end and restart the distribution, presumably in a different slot.
Weird how Nintendo didn't put any checks in place that overwrote items that didn't match some official checksum
Not only would it prevent modders from accidentally borking other people's saves, but it could also prevent and fix corrupted items if the Wii got unhooked too early, or if the owner has a flaky internet connection.
Small indie company please understand
@@tylerlackey1175 that doesn't even make sense
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My bad, I also forgot they can only afford servers that run Windows 95.
They upgraded to XP for the release of Splatoon 3@@thepuzzlemaster64
To be fair, this was their first home console with full online features. Lots of growing pains are to be expected. Nowadays if you so much as go online with a modded Switch it's an insta-ban, so they have improved.
having the animal crossing villager wielding a lightsaber is the funniest shit ever 😭
Stop I have the guitar one and its so cursed 😭
I mean, Villager has been able to hold the Beam Saber in an official product for 10 years now
If people inserted... explicit HDLC into city folk back then,, I can only imagine the PR nightmare it would be for Nintendo if an unsuspecting kid's save file got infected with it.
Remember when newsmedia tried to say that Tortimer was a player who would ask kids for contact info or something?
Ayy, I got the Dimentio Mask. This brought me back. Back then I only participated in hispanic online communities so no one had any idea how those worked or if they'd be potentially harmful to your file. Some people pannicked when they got the Dimentio Mask as it was the most infamous one of the bunch and weren't exactly sure if their files were fucked or something
People losing them minds over dimentio's face is both hilarious and sad. Imagine thinking your file was absolutely fucked just because you saw some weird mask in your catalog that you'd never seen before on any official release? Feels like something dimentio himself would pull to mess with people
@@CatKat4008 new instant dimentio game over just dropped
@@CatKat4008 Yea, that is very in character for the little bugger
I remember connecting with people on City Folk when I was 8 or 9 on forum sites. I was so young that I thought the HDLC were just real items I had never seen before when it "infected" my game. It wasn't until I tried to sell the lightsaber my friend gave me that I realized it was hacked.
Me too - I was 10 when I got City Folk. I had a lightsaber and in the city folk community that was a rare gem, like an NFT. I actually ran a contest in 2010 or so to gamble off this lightsaber for more rare items and it got a lot of publicity at the time.
3:31 I thought the Dimentio mask was a real clothing item in the game for years! I can't believe I didn't know this was a hacked DLC considering I knew about the other hacked DLCs before...
Let’s go to the City is such an underrated Animal Crossing. I did a let’s play last year and came across some of these items. Once they’ve copied over, some even appear in Ables. It’s crazy 😅 Thanks for another great video.
It's city folk European scum
Let's go to the city and get you city folk because who tf nee the pal version bro
Ah yes, the lightsaber- I remembered showing it off as a warning to those who ran in my town. I used to mod ACCF heavily back in the day so I knew of the HDLC, but never knew how it got into those who didn't mod their games.
An interesting tidbit to remember from here out.
"I remembered showing it off as a warning to those who ran in my town." Did you ever end up hitting anyone with it? When you were bored, did you hit trees and rocks and Redd with it?
The one time where gatekeeping was actually a great idea
@@KopperNeoman stop being a fucking weirdo when noone fucking asked your opinion about this shit. shut the fuck up and go be homophobic or whatever somewhere were we dont have to see it.
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What the hell is this idiot talking about
@@KopperNeoman I am so confused on what this is supposed to mean.
@SillierPutty he is mad that gay people exists dw
@@KopperNeoman I feel I gotta gatekeep you from the freaking internet because you've obviously seen so many twitter arguments that it resulted in a dreadfully serious speech impairment.
I am so happy you covered this topic. As a kid who grew up with all the games I always had questions about seed items (which you covered recently) and the hacked custom items in city folk. There was this dude who made TH-cam videos back when this game was relevant and he always had a lightsaber and I always wondered how you could get one lmao
I remember Nintendo distributing patterns as DLC too. Wendell would deliver it vs Pete for the items.
Animal Crossing x Super Paper Mario is the crossover I didn't know I needed
OMG thanks for making this video. I remember as a kid hearing of "Triple Pokeballs" but could never find anything on it or how to get it without wi-fi.
That's honestly an interesting way to do DLC, also surprising that they actually kept the method private lmao. Amazing video as always!!
3:58 Oh wow, did not expect to see myself and my friend Chris into one of your videos! It's funny because i have been binge watching your vids lately so I was really shocked lol. Great video btw, hope to see more ACCF in the future!
Honestly pretty respectful gatekeeping from the modders, I can only imagine the chaos that would ensue if *those* type of modders found out how to insert there stuff in the game, Tortimer would be pleased, simply to say
also for anyone wondering about “Tortimer would be pleased” some random news broadcast who literally never played animal crossing thought that NPCs were real people and accused Tortimer as “the man from California the police are looking for”
I disagree. It's framed as respectful gatekeeping, but doesn't solve any issues whilst giving the modding team unnecessary power. The issue was not how to distribute items, but how to format and create them. A plan is laid out in the post to release software capable of creating modding items, but just having distribution be handled by DsPet. 20+ years of modding drama has probably jaded me, and I don't remember hearing about issues with this, but if someone suggested that today for New Horizons I'd be suspicious. You'd just be delaying the inevitable and giving yourself an early monopoly on modded items.
@@squabbbb That's not how this could have worked though. If there was a simple program you could use to make a model and save it as a DLC file, you could literally just paste the bytes of the DLC file you made into your City Folk save file. That's the "distribution" method, because the vanilla Wi-Fi connection multiplayer will permanently add your DLC slot data to any player you connect to, so long as that other player has an empty slot where you have an item. If it's in the appropriate position, congratulations! You've now created a "virus" that spreads to anyone you connect to over wifi, and then anyone who happens to connect to *those* people too. One dude making a "lol funny penis hat" would potentially spread that item to thousands of copies of the game if that one dude happened to be active in the City Folk communities at the time. And of course, since the slots are limited and collide with official distributions, and the only way to remove items from your slots is via editing your save file, a bad actor could put that penis hat in slot 20 and just wait for the (completely invisible) save to spread, until Nintendo distributed an item in Slot 20 and anyone "infected" with the penis hat would receive a penis hat from Nintendo in the mail.
Penis hat isn't even the worst you could do. You could create an item that crashes the game when viewed, or distribute the same kind of town-ruining "seed" items that plagued Wild World.
@@squabbbb It's way better to have a trusted team distributing items that everyone would want versus letting anyone make things that could potentially brick save files... or spread indecent things.
Remember, the only ones who hate gatekeeping are the ones the gate was built to keep away from the vulnerable children.
@@KopperNeomanI'm glad you can make such broad blanket statements about people's intentions. This is why modding knowledge eventually disappears, or undumped prototypes become lost--because some self-appointed arbiter of a whole community wanted power and came up with an excuse why only they should have access to it, and then they leave, or the cartridge dies.
I find that pretty gross, but hey, whatever makes you feel good.
I REMEMBER THE LIGHTSABER!!!!! I REMEMBER ALL OF THESE! Thank you so much for covering them!
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“City Folk, or *disappointed sigh* “Let’s Go To The City…”
- Hunter R; being funny af
i'll never forget my shock upon walking into my unmodded save file one random day only to find the Dimentio mask sitting as a purchasable item. I was aware of its existence but there is when I found out they could spread over playing online lmao
Great video as always, Hunter! Hope you and your family and friends are safe from the hurricane.
Thank you! We're all safe and doing well. 🙇
I wanna know what would happen if two players DLCs conflicted in a way where the item type was different. Would a player try to swing a DS desk as an axe?
In this case, the axe would just be invisible and it would like the player is swinging air. It works similarly to your head being rendered invisible in this follow-up Short I made: th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
Gosh it kinda hurts a bit, I genuinely had no idea there was any DLC items in City Folk at the time I was playing it around 2008-2012, I looooveed the Nintendo themed items in the GameCube version so much! Then finding out there was even a few sneaky modders that considerately didn't let the secret on how they did it is so fascinating! Looking forward to more from you Hunter 😊
I was extremely active in the City Folk multiplayer community back in the day, primarily on the old Animal Crossing Community forums. I was obsessed with it, I had the whole setup... USB keyboard hooked up and voice chatting with Wii Speak and everything. I recall that I had a bunch of these hacked items, though the two I remember the best are the Lightsaber and the Dimentio mask. One of my friends on the site wore that *all* the time. He hosted a birthday party in his City Folk town, which he had hacked to make the layout super weird and wacky for that day. That memory always really sticks out to me.
This answers something I've been wondering for years!! I remember visiting a hacked town on accident when i was a kid and brought some gold roses and lightsabers home and thought it was cool and didn't think twice about it. But nowadays with my knowledge on how mods work in most games, I always thought it was weird how I was able to actually have it on my end. This explains everything after so many years, it's nice to have some closure on that, great vid!!
holy shit it's the batsaber
No, just a regular one.
I remember when I invited someone to give me DLC items and all of a sudden I found hacked items at the Able Sisters shop. Crazy.
Hey man, I just want you to know that I'm not a programmer, modder, or otherwise, but I'm a big Animal Crossing fan and get a ton of enjoyment watching your stuff. Keep it up!
Congrats on getting the new video out. I hope you and your loved ones continue to recover
I could swear that I had that Ash cap in one of my Animal Crossing games even though I never hacked them. It looks so familiar.
Every Animal Crossing game has allowed you to create customized designs that you can then wear on your clothes / hat. The model is slightly different in City Folk, but you could theoretically design the Ash Ketchum hat yourself and just wear it around in-game. New Leaf and New Horizons allowed you to download other people's designs and Ash's hat was a pretty popular one!
Did you share your game with someone else or get it secondhand for a system that stores save info on the cartridge instead of the console? That might explain it
I love how consistent your content is. Even when covering games that I haven't had the chance to play you still make it so interesting. Absolutely love your channel! Hope you're feeling proud of yourself.
Also, completely unrelated, but NEW JINGLE!!! I like it!! ^^
I’ve been waiting for this video! I played this one the most as a kid and I was so fascinated by the HDLC items and always wanted to know more about how they worked. It’s so interesting that the modders were able to prevent the dlc slots to be completely griefed.
6:08 What if two different copies had items of two different categories occupying the same DLC slot? For example, what if Player A had a headgear item in slot 80, and Player B had a furniture item in slot 80? If Player A visited Player B's town, wearing the headgear, how would it render in Player B's game?
Good question! I looked into this further and made a follow-up Short on what would happen in this scenario. th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
Oh my GOD I’ve been waiting for this. This is one of my biggest deep lore hyperfixations and I still wanna learn how to do it
THIS NEEDS MORE VIEWS!! great job with this video!
7:24 Cool to know that this was intentional so someone doesn’t accidentally sell the blue lightsaber
I remember this, I got the lightsaber, the Pokeballs and a metal blue Pikmin hat from other online players!
Back then I had no idea how they were able to get these in the game, I thought it was dark magic lol. Thanks for making this :)
Wow! I played city folk so much as a kid and loved going to other towns. I used animal crossing community to meet so many people. I remember items like the pikmin hats, lightsaber, and spinning pokeballs as a kind of secret people would pass on to one another. It’s really interesting to see how it was working behind the scenes. I always wondered where these things came from.
This is going to sound strange, but I find all the creepypasta's etc of games; especially Animal Crossing - not to be creepy in anyway whatsoever.
However, your channel has really shown me the strange and very real darkness of AC. Not dark in a existential sense and more dark in a criminal/grey market sense.
The amount of underground hacking and exploits these games had is actually really surprising.
Thank you so much for being such an incredible channel, your content is constantly getting more esoteric and interesting.
Huzzah, a new Hunter video. I live in the UK so my version is called 'Animal Crossing: Let's go to the city!' and I do not call it that at all. City Folk is an infinity better name. Also did you change the intro music? It sounds really good.
the intro music is 5 P.M. - City Folk from the games sound track. all accf soundtrack songs are on youtube. the games soundtrack makes me so happy yet sad i cant describe the levels of nostalgia from these songs...
Yep! I used the City Folk startup sound as the startup jingle for this video. 🎵
@@jordanfourtwenty9694 thanks! I'm actually collecting old consoles and games, and the animal crossing games are my favourite. They're so nostalgic even though I've never played them before. I've been playing the first one on the GameCube mainly and it's been so much fun!
@@Hunter-R. Nice! I'm planning on buying a Wii and a copy of city Folk for Christmas.
Imagine my surprise seeing the Dimentio mask here, I had NO idea that it was hacked DLC. I remember distinctly getting it way back in the day, but I'm not sure how. That's actually hilarious
I'm curious what would happen if someone had a HDLC for a furniture item in one slot and another had HDLC for a wearable item in the same slot. Would someone's game crash or would something weird happen? I imagine this is another reason modders kept tight control of the process.
Used to be obsessed with this game and its modding community as a kid! I think I inadvertently discovered a bug/exploit that I've never seen documented online anywhere before?
I had an Action Replay Wii which was essentially just an SD card with some maxed-out save files on it, but it was also somehow able to override the copy protection that City Folk saves normally have. Me and my friend used this to run the same save file on both of our Wiis, and playing online together while having the same save had some pretty crazy results - moving furniture in eachother's houses was possible and would result in the furniture being duplicated as it was dragged, when my friend left the online session he wasn't able to save or do anything in his own town since the game thought it was still in online play, etc. I was 11 at the time so never really managed to record it or understand what was happening, but we had so much fun exploring and messing with it. :)
Back in the day I had most of the hacked items. In the Italian community there was a small group of modders that distributed these items for free (and other things like free bells) and taught you how to mod your city. They even had a lab for modded villagers ahah I really miss those days!
City Folk was the first animal crossing game I ever played and I have so much nostalgia attached to it! I knew about the wii connect items and the hacked lightsabers, but I had no idea how the tech side of it worked so it was fun to learn about it. I'd love to see you cover city folk again
I can see why the people who discovered this wanted to keep their methods under wraps, not hard to imagine someone being malicious with it
I love City Folk so much, the multiplayer really developed me socially and emotionally
3:29 _when your favorite villain jumpscares you in an Animal Crossing video_
It's so nice that you used the PAL name too, I grew up with Let's Go haha
Glad you've been able to still upload through Hurricane Milton. Seems like an interesting video 👀
My favorite channel on TH-cam! 🙏
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This channel is slowly re-igniting my old obsession with Animal Crossing again 🍃
I have so much memories playing this game online as a kid, seeing a light saber for the first time blew me away as it was my first actual experience with hacking in a video game and the person holding it ended up giving it away, i'd still have it if I didnt wipe my saves woops
I later learned how they were made tho its always cool to see the subject being brought up !!
Hi Hunter! I really enjoy your Animal Crossing content and have a video suggestion. It would be an information guide about having the worst town ever! Villager reactions (if any), town hall reactions, and so forth. I was most inspired by the rafflesia plant since it's a sign of a poor town, exclusive to ACWW, ACCF, and ACNL. You could research the minimum requirements for the worst town conditions in each game, and/or the funniest way to get the worst town conditions. If you see this, thank you for your consideration!
The Wii was such a wonderful system. It did things completely backwards but that’s what made it special. Such a fun time
i found your channel recently and just binge watched all of your videos. amazing stuff
Awesome way of ending my day, with an awesome video :D
I was 10 years old in 2009, and I regularly played CF online with other kids. This is back when it was less common for strangers to play games like that online together, especially kids. I remember one of my buddies gave me two lightsabers that we duplicated using that Wi-Fi truck. I felt like a real gamer! ❤
ACCF was the first AC game my family had. It was brutally difficult. I had to make a robot with a microphone and servo to catch the fin fish
When you’re in the middle of a binge and the fresh stuff drops 😮
Thanks for finally uploading City Folk conteht!
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Wait, so Nintendo WAS the pioneer of the infamous: "Disc Locked Content" or "DLC"?.
Tell Capcom that I'm sorry, and when I thought that they was the first in introduce that concept...
Disc Locked Content is Nintendo's forte. Pokemon games are a great example
YESSS CITY FOLK VIDS OMG
There was a reason why City Folks is my favorite online Animal Crossing game because you had interesting things happening that even New Leaf and New Horizons which is lacking compared to City Folks.
i didnt know that distributions even worked like this, as in the time period i was playing city folk originally, im pretty sure i still had dialup internet (i lived in the middle of nowhere, mind you), so i couldnt have gotten any dlc items or visited anyone's towns
Finding your channel has been the best decision I've made, your videos are so entertaining :)
So I have a question, let's say Player A modded in a custom axe in DLC slot 10 and visited Player B who had a DLC furniture item in DLC slot 10, what would happen? The DLCs can't overwrite each other so would Player A look like they're holding the furniture item like an axe or would it be invisible?
Good question! I looked into this further and made a follow-up Short on what would happen in this scenario. th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
Cudos to the modders for being so considerate, I love hearing this community being nice
I remember dealing with this back in the day. On one hand there was a wow factor of seeing people make their own items, I was impressed every time they updated their list with a new item, but for those of us that knew the repercussions of having these items, it was also kind of spooky. I ended up with a bunch of these on my game either way. Even back then as a teen, I was confused why Nintendo handled the dlc items in such an exploitable way.
Wow, this video was a fascinating dive into the unique DLC mechanics of City Folk! It’s interesting to see how Nintendo's system, designed to add post-launch content, ended up being a double-edged sword. On one hand, the ability to introduce custom items like lightsabers and iconic character outfits sounds awesome, but the way it could unintentionally spread hacked DLC and conflict with official content must have been frustrating for a lot of players.
The part about conflicting items across players' towns really shows how complex and, at times, chaotic this system was. I had no idea that there were only 256 slots shared between both official and custom DLC items. It makes sense now why modders were hesitant to make the process public.
Thanks for highlighting these hidden aspects of the game! I always thought City Folk was an underappreciated gem in the series, and this just adds to the legacy of how quirky and experimental it was. Keep up the great work!
I'm a bit sad because City Folk was my first and favorite Animal Crossing game. When I was younger, it felt so expansive and magical. It's too bad I was never able to get these items.
I played a lot of City Folk online as a kid and I remember someone giving me one of the lightsabers lol. Really interesting how people were able to create custom DLC like that during the life of the game.
Holy crap the Wii title sound effect was a truck of nostalgia.
My kitties were a few montha old..
Been waiting for an upload from this dude
You're telling me the random town I visited from TH-cam comments over a decade ago that had a lightsaber WASN'T VANILLA?????
I also didn't play City Folk much. It felt a lot like it was just Wild World but on Wii and a couple new features. I didn't want to "start over", so I just kept playing Wild World!
City Folk is the only Animal Crossing game I have no experience with, so this was an extra interesting video. What a fascinating little bit of video game DLC history!
One question: What happens in case of DLC item mismatch when the items do two totally different things? Your example showed two heads, but what would have happened if one was the giant Nintendo DS and the other one the lightsaber? Would the player that has the lightsaber suddenly hold the DS?
In these cases, some items are typically rendered completely invisible since it doesn't have the programming or ID to be held or worn. I looked into this further and made a follow-up Short on what would happen in this scenario. th-cam.com/users/shortsztuNHJCYeKE
@@Hunter-R. nice. Thanks for answering!
3:53 that's me :o
Oh, so it is! I was sent that little clip on Discord but wasn’t sure of the origin of it. I’ll add some credit to you in the description, but I hope you don’t mind me using your footage for that short little segment. 🙇♂️
@@Hunter-R. Of course, please feel free to use any clips! I was actually told about your channel by the guy pushing me in that clip. We love your content :)
go chris go
Awsome vid i waited so bad for this :3
Man i remember having the light sabers and the captain falcon mask.... Nice times
I don't think I played this one much if at all, so this was really cool to learn about!
this explains why nobody would tell me how people made the lightsabers...
Another banger, great work Hunter
Appreciate you brother. 🙇
I actually had the Ash Cap and thought for the longest time that it was legit. Little did my teen mind realize what HDLC really meant, haha.
0:20 got jumpscared by my own username
look into city folk deluxe! it looks really promising!
Aurum is doing amazing work with their City Folk Deluxe project, and I've been following the progress of it for a few months now!
Yay another awesome video🎉
Your video are so nice because they are easy to understand to smooth brained people like me who know absolutely nothing how programming and coding works xD
Soooo what happens when someone has a slot occupied with a furniture item, and a player visits that town while their same slot is occupied by a shirt. A shirt that they are wearing. How would that render on the copy of the game with the slot occupied by a furniture item? Would it just crash, I assume? Or is there some other effect or built-in safety for this?
Shirts would default to the "Moldy Shirt" (0xA9E0) if another player was wearing a shirt that your game considers a different type of item. This is actually the same shirt that Jack dresses you with if you fail to give him candy on Halloween, so I think it's some sort of unintended failsafe related to the players having an invalid shirt equipped.
So how would items render if they shared the same slot but weren't the same type of item? Like if person A had the the lightsaber and it shared the same slot as player B's pikmin hat, would B see A wearing a pikmin hat every time A pulled out their lightsaber? Or would B see nothing at all with A looking like they are holding an invisible axe? What about if A and B had furniture of different sizes sharing the same slot. Would person A be running into collision that B can't see, would the collisions combine together, or what?
city folk is admittedly my least favorite of the main animal cranimal games, but this dlc system is actually kinda sick i am not gonna lie. honestly, i would kill to see/make a game where items were distributed like that by players officially. like have official items but then be like "btw here are some player made items if you want more." there should probably be some form of moderation, at least on the client side, but I think it would be a super super neat feature
I got the light saber as a kid and I always assumed it was official till now
This is something I never new about, thanks for the vid!