Is is just me or is Nintendo seemingly focused on fan pleasing during the last era of the Switch's life? Like the last Mario & Luigi was likely the biggest flop in Nintendo history, from a sales point of view no reason to make another one. And games like Mario RPG, TTYD, Prime 4, Echoes of Wisdom, Pikmin 4 etc. arent exactly setting the world on fire, but Nintendo still gives them big budgets/propping them up like they would with any release likely to do 10 million. I dont know if this is just a coincidence or not, but if it isn't I have massive respect for it.
Paper Jam was a flop but biggest in Nintendo History? Oh, just realizing you mean the remakes. Yeah, that's what happens when you put Bowser's Inside Story remake on a dead system. I think it'd have done fine on the Switch.
It's part fan pleasing, part trying to keep as many franchises they have relevant as possible. If they just stuck to the current big 4 names, there would likely end up being some Nintendo fatigue eventually. They probably hope they can find another franchise worth putting up next to Animal Crossing and Splatoon as relatively new mega seller.
@@pattersong6637 Paper Jam was a flop, just not the biggest. Of the five original games, it sold the least, only barely hitting 1 million sold. It somehow managed to sell less than Partners in Time.
Great spot. Although I meant to only do it on mine as my microphone gets a bit tinny - it was a mistake on my part to run the Direct audio through it as well and I didn't notice at first. I was thinking of redoing it but I didn't know how noticeable it was. Hopefully not too much of an issue.
There was a comment below. I often use an upscaler on my voice as my microphone gets a bit tinny sometimes (check out my very first videos) but - it was a mistake on my part to run the Direct audio through it as well. I didn't notice I'd done this at first. I was thinking of redoing it but I didn't know how noticeable it was. Hopefully not too much of an issue but sorry if it's too distracting.
Is Echoes of Wisdom their take on “multiplicative gameplay” but with 2D Zelda? I couldn’t help but be reminded of the freedom of choice you have in totk so to see this branch out in a more restrictive environment is awesome
Hey Mr Forecasting! I was asking myself like a year ago, "Nintendo are spending all of this money making game engines for remakes, and they could capitalise on this by paying for the engine and testing out the market with the remake, and then if it works they already have the engine made to make a new game in that art style and they have data on if people are interested or not, so it's a great business model". Now I can see they are doing this with Zelda that is really cool. So what do you think is the probability that they are going to repeat doing this with a bunch of their other recent remakes like Mario RPG or Advance Wars or something?
You mentioned youd want to play as a cat in a normal, aftive city. Have you heard of small cat bug city by chance? I may have the name wrong, but its similar to what i typed. Also wanted to make you aware that stray is a port, albeit kne i am extremely excited for! Kt was a manor hit, receiving an award at the game awards
"What happened to Dance Dance Revolution" it's owned by Konami and you're lucky if Konami makes ANY games in the 2020s that aren't compilations of old software.
Curious if you see potential for a Nintendo World Championship SNES edition or even further consoles. I like that they release a game that feels arcadey, that is about something like score running. And for half price. I kinda dream they would go for some arcade styled star fox game.
It seems like such low hanging fruit... but then I thought that about SNES Remix. I may look into this at some point but my instant hunch is that they're unlikely to have anything in development outside the very long term. I agree, it would be great though - and I'd be far more interested in that than the NES one to be honest.
I was heavily expecting Kid Icarus Uprising HD to show up here haha, guess that just means it might be for Switch 2, since the recent news of Sakurai going back to work on future projects increases its likelihood. Curious if you have that as a potential forecast in a future video!
I feel like I've mentioned it briefly - I may do a deep dive on what next for Sakurai at some point. But yes, I think there's a good chance it's an early(ish) Switch 2 game to leverage the new system's graphical power.
You didn't seem aware of Stray (understandably given your explanation about not following other games) - it might surprise you to learn that was a Game of the Year Nominee several years ago.
It cant be a coincidence that all three Mario RPG series are revived at the same time, right? Maybe they are trying to see which game migjt have the best recrption so that that game series can be the one that they continue with in the future?
Too bad there were no exciting announcements in this direct! 😉 But no - this was a fantastic direct! And I wonder about the developers on several of these games too!
That has to be a decent possibility - I have another video identifying the potential for a bunch of the Origami King team to be working on something else.
Regarding spreading out big titles on NSO, I disagree. One of my biggest criticisms is all the duds. Between Mega Man and this one, things are starting to look up. I might agree with you if it was a given that they were going to keep releasing duds, but why do that?
Shining Force is owned by Sega, so they couldn't call it "HD-2D", but they could imitate the style, sure. HYPED for Romancing Saga 2 remake. The original is my favorite old-school JRPG!
I didn't realise they'd trademarked HD2D? Interesting. I mean, Shining Force III is already kind of that style - the Saturn kind of mandates it with its mixture of sprites and 3D assets.
@@nintendoforecast I'm sure they have; Square were the first to use the term in a marketing context, and no one else has used it. It doesn't matter, though; Sega can imitate it all they want.
Both you and Arlo refered to this new Zelda game as not 3d. You know it's a 3d game right? With 3d models and 3 axis of dimension. Maybe the distinction you wanted to make is that it is an isometric view?
Yeah, I guess I mean in gameplay terms it follows the tradition of ALttP rather than Ocarina/BotW. I mean strictly speaking most "2D" games are 3D in this sense but I can't think of a better shorthand than 2D/3D (open to suggestions)?
@@nintendoforecast Yeah I see what you mean, I know I'm being a bit pedantic about it. But if it uses 3d models in a 3d world (which this one does, I make that exact thing for a living) it is a 3d game. Either way, cool to see your reaction and I'm looking forward to see more of your videos about it!
@@dazza2350 Same is true for Crash Bandicoot, it quite litearlly could run in AlttP engine. It was my bane of existence for a long time that actual acrobatic platformers like Mario 64 simply didn't exist on the market. Still barely do. The main reason is that consumers genuinely only actually enjoy "3D" as a marketing gimmick, but check out anyone playing cover shooters and you'll notice they will center the camera to the back like it's Space Harrier. Very few will actualy utilize the left analog stick, and that's why "poor camera" is so bad, because you need to constantly adjust the gameplay AWAY from the actual 3D experience. When people want the D-Pad it's because they simply cannot orientate two analog sticks at the same time. They want 3D to only exists as a way to look around at the graphics, but d-pad is quite enough to slide the camera behind you and press forward. That's really the "genius" of OoT Z-targeting, it swaps the linear axis from ground level to back view.
Is is just me or is Nintendo seemingly focused on fan pleasing during the last era of the Switch's life? Like the last Mario & Luigi was likely the biggest flop in Nintendo history, from a sales point of view no reason to make another one. And games like Mario RPG, TTYD, Prime 4, Echoes of Wisdom, Pikmin 4 etc. arent exactly setting the world on fire, but Nintendo still gives them big budgets/propping them up like they would with any release likely to do 10 million. I dont know if this is just a coincidence or not, but if it isn't I have massive respect for it.
Paper Jam was a flop but biggest in Nintendo History?
Oh, just realizing you mean the remakes. Yeah, that's what happens when you put Bowser's Inside Story remake on a dead system. I think it'd have done fine on the Switch.
It's part fan pleasing, part trying to keep as many franchises they have relevant as possible. If they just stuck to the current big 4 names, there would likely end up being some Nintendo fatigue eventually. They probably hope they can find another franchise worth putting up next to Animal Crossing and Splatoon as relatively new mega seller.
@@pattersong6637 Paper Jam was a flop, just not the biggest.
Of the five original games, it sold the least, only barely hitting 1 million sold. It somehow managed to sell less than Partners in Time.
I love how you're logical and analytical about this stuff but became emotional when the Zelda trailer played. Very relatable!
the announcer's voice is often weird in this, did you use some sort of noise reduction thing in your editing software?
Great spot. Although I meant to only do it on mine as my microphone gets a bit tinny - it was a mistake on my part to run the Direct audio through it as well and I didn't notice at first. I was thinking of redoing it but I didn't know how noticeable it was. Hopefully not too much of an issue.
Delighted to finally see this, bring on 2025
Nobody... nobody gonna mention the gurgled sounds?
It's like there's some weird ai voice artifacing, super odd
There was a comment below. I often use an upscaler on my voice as my microphone gets a bit tinny sometimes (check out my very first videos) but - it was a mistake on my part to run the Direct audio through it as well. I didn't notice I'd done this at first. I was thinking of redoing it but I didn't know how noticeable it was. Hopefully not too much of an issue but sorry if it's too distracting.
That direct was really good. I'm just as excited for echoes of wisdom, it’s gonna be so much fun!
20X9 is not in our century ;)
Galactic Calendar is its own thing, they don't use the Gregorian calendar in the Metroid univers :)
Is Echoes of Wisdom their take on “multiplicative gameplay” but with 2D Zelda? I couldn’t help but be reminded of the freedom of choice you have in totk so to see this branch out in a more restrictive environment is awesome
What on earth have Intelligent Systems' main FE team been up to for the last 8 years!?
I'm seriously impressed by Nintendo's output. They've made a miraculous recovery compared to the sparcities of last generation.
Hey Mr Forecasting! I was asking myself like a year ago, "Nintendo are spending all of this money making game engines for remakes, and they could capitalise on this by paying for the engine and testing out the market with the remake, and then if it works they already have the engine made to make a new game in that art style and they have data on if people are interested or not, so it's a great business model". Now I can see they are doing this with Zelda that is really cool. So what do you think is the probability that they are going to repeat doing this with a bunch of their other recent remakes like Mario RPG or Advance Wars or something?
Hmm... what an interesting concept. I shall definitely look into this. Thanks!
I'm only imagining how amazing Prime 4 would look on Switch 2 given how great it already looks on Switch 1!
With these releases The Switch is reaching 160 million for sure
"is Phantom Brave related to Bravely Default?" no but it is related to Disgaea being from the same studio and a lot of the same team
Great video, appreciate hearing your thoughts on each game as they are announced!
You mentioned youd want to play as a cat in a normal, aftive city. Have you heard of small cat bug city by chance? I may have the name wrong, but its similar to what i typed. Also wanted to make you aware that stray is a port, albeit kne i am extremely excited for! Kt was a manor hit, receiving an award at the game awards
Awesome - thanks for the suggestion!
It was really cute to hear you audibly tear up at the Zelda trailer :D
"What happened to Dance Dance Revolution" it's owned by Konami and you're lucky if Konami makes ANY games in the 2020s that aren't compilations of old software.
Amazing direct. i hope you look into whos developing the new mario and luigi,
Curious if you see potential for a Nintendo World Championship SNES edition or even further consoles. I like that they release a game that feels arcadey, that is about something like score running. And for half price. I kinda dream they would go for some arcade styled star fox game.
It seems like such low hanging fruit... but then I thought that about SNES Remix. I may look into this at some point but my instant hunch is that they're unlikely to have anything in development outside the very long term. I agree, it would be great though - and I'd be far more interested in that than the NES one to be honest.
I was heavily expecting Kid Icarus Uprising HD to show up here haha, guess that just means it might be for Switch 2, since the recent news of Sakurai going back to work on future projects increases its likelihood. Curious if you have that as a potential forecast in a future video!
I feel like I've mentioned it briefly - I may do a deep dive on what next for Sakurai at some point. But yes, I think there's a good chance it's an early(ish) Switch 2 game to leverage the new system's graphical power.
You didn't seem aware of Stray (understandably given your explanation about not following other games) - it might surprise you to learn that was a Game of the Year Nominee several years ago.
Oh, awesome.
I think they add a lot of switch online games in the summer so people renew their yearly subscription. Thats definitely what i’m doing this month.
This direct was great, the Zelda game, Mario & Luigi, Metroid, DKCR & DQ3 among others were really good!
It cant be a coincidence that all three Mario RPG series are revived at the same time, right? Maybe they are trying to see which game migjt have the best recrption so that that game series can be the one that they continue with in the future?
Could be... it's a puzzle.
The fact that separate info says Brothership is November points to November 6th.
Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom seems to be a 2D open world game, since you can probably reach anywhere with magic.
Too bad there were no exciting announcements in this direct! 😉
But no - this was a fantastic direct! And I wonder about the developers on several of these games too!
I'm most excited for stray! Looks fantastic
Could intelligent systems be doing mario and luigi since the ttyd staff was really different to origami king, and warioware was a small game?
That has to be a decent possibility - I have another video identifying the potential for a bunch of the Origami King team to be working on something else.
I'm anticipating CAProduction. But they wouldn't be sole developer. Could be NdCube, developing alongside Mario Party.
Interestingly, Fantasian is an Arzest mobile game.
Amazing direct, with 5 first party games. Nintendo is on fire
Regarding spreading out big titles on NSO, I disagree. One of my biggest criticisms is all the duds. Between Mega Man and this one, things are starting to look up. I might agree with you if it was a given that they were going to keep releasing duds, but why do that?
Nice video!
Shining Force is owned by Sega, so they couldn't call it "HD-2D", but they could imitate the style, sure.
HYPED for Romancing Saga 2 remake. The original is my favorite old-school JRPG!
I didn't realise they'd trademarked HD2D? Interesting. I mean, Shining Force III is already kind of that style - the Saturn kind of mandates it with its mixture of sprites and 3D assets.
@@nintendoforecast I'm sure they have; Square were the first to use the term in a marketing context, and no one else has used it. It doesn't matter, though; Sega can imitate it all they want.
Both you and Arlo refered to this new Zelda game as not 3d. You know it's a 3d game right? With 3d models and 3 axis of dimension. Maybe the distinction you wanted to make is that it is an isometric view?
Yeah, I guess I mean in gameplay terms it follows the tradition of ALttP rather than Ocarina/BotW. I mean strictly speaking most "2D" games are 3D in this sense but I can't think of a better shorthand than 2D/3D (open to suggestions)?
I mean it doesn't look like the y axis is that significant
@@nintendoforecast Yeah I see what you mean, I know I'm being a bit pedantic about it. But if it uses 3d models in a 3d world (which this one does, I make that exact thing for a living) it is a 3d game. Either way, cool to see your reaction and I'm looking forward to see more of your videos about it!
@@dazza2350 Same is true for Crash Bandicoot, it quite litearlly could run in AlttP engine. It was my bane of existence for a long time that actual acrobatic platformers like Mario 64 simply didn't exist on the market. Still barely do.
The main reason is that consumers genuinely only actually enjoy "3D" as a marketing gimmick, but check out anyone playing cover shooters and you'll notice they will center the camera to the back like it's Space Harrier. Very few will actualy utilize the left analog stick, and that's why "poor camera" is so bad, because you need to constantly adjust the gameplay AWAY from the actual 3D experience.
When people want the D-Pad it's because they simply cannot orientate two analog sticks at the same time. They want 3D to only exists as a way to look around at the graphics, but d-pad is quite enough to slide the camera behind you and press forward. That's really the "genius" of OoT Z-targeting, it swaps the linear axis from ground level to back view.
@@nintendoforecast it's usually "top-down"