This was a interesting look at all their studios and the fac that a lot of them haven't done anything in recent years is an indication that the next coneole will probably bring a wave of games in it's launch year.
every time people talk about how Splatoon and Animal Crossing share the same team, it really confuses me because the credits for Splatoon 3 seem to have very little overlap with Animal Crossing developers. Of course the main producer is involved with both, but pretty much none of the other developers seem to be.
People tend to assume "same producer, same team" and its just not accurate. "Team Asano" for example is basically just the producer... but the developers are different companies.
I think support studios and what they do is very poorly understood in the video games industry as a whole, I’d love to see a video from you diving into some specific first party support studio and what the do etc. You do great work keep it up!
It is incredible how much work and information went into this. However, I must admit, that it was hard to follow with just voice over random clips from trailers. Maybe make the images shown more relevant to what you are currently talking about? I mean you already had the whole diagram that you could have used to highlight what you are currently talking about and which cross connections exist. I believe that would make things way easier to follow. Still outstanding work though. Keep it up!
Sony (mostly) just buys studios and pays third party to go exclusive. Thats why their "first party" games have no Sony "identity." For example: Astrobot. Its best described as a Nintendo platformer not by Nintendo.
Syn Sophia is apparently working on Fitness Boxing 3, so they kinda haven't completely moved on from working with Nintendo even though they're only publishing the game outside of Japan. Also, Genius Sonority is independent. I don't think TPC would have given them the leeway to make the Denpa Men games. I do think it's worth noting that Nintendo's relationship with Eighting stagnated after the Kururin games and Master of Illusion, and yet they've seemingly come back in full force as one of EPD's most trusted partners in the Switch era. So I don't think any studio Nintendo's worked with before that is still around is off the table.
That's fair about 8ing - Tose is another studio that has been doing a lot of support work but has developed for Nintendo before. Still, in the interests of keeping it somewhat streamlined, I've stuck to recent teams. (Also, I suspect - though haven't checked - that it's a different group within 8ing who are after all quite a large company, well over 200 employees).
Seems like you missed Fire Emblem Heroes from Intelligent Systems. It's Nintendo's 2nd most successful (though through their partner) mobile endeavor, and it seems to be going relatively strong still.
I was trying (not entirely successfully) to focus on the non-mobile games since I can find credits for those. Heroes is on the infographic. I assume it's a subset of the same team.
As someone that still plays this game f2p, I'd argue it isn't doing that well. Still well enough to sustain itsself, but the powercreep is getting so insane that it becomes harder and harder to justify investing even just your time into it. I can't fathom how people spend money on the game with the rate at which these "investments" lose their value.
The only developer that matters is the one making the Advance Wars sequel. The core mechanic can be changing COs every turn. I’ll call it: Advance Wars: Switch 2 What do you mean you can’t find any evidence of a sequel?!?!?!?!?
I'm probably in the minority, but I wish Nintendo would consolidate some of these mini-game collection teams & have them work on something more substantial. We don't need multiple 1-2 Switch, Mario Party, Warioware & Wii Sports style games ever gen. That's not even counting games like Ring Fit, all the Labo stuff or Game Builder Garage. I like experimental stuff, but these games are getting multiple releases each. And instead of feeling unique & original, they feel like release lineup filler & start feeling samey. Obviously, I'm not saying abandon Mario Party or something, only that I don't feel like we need so many mini game collection party games.
Over a - thousand - people working on FETH?!?! I don’t doubt your research but I’d think this makes FETH one of the biggest VG productions ever in history? (If not the biggest …)
Well, the credit lists takes about 1100 lines. It's probably a bit under 1000 in terms of named people but it includes subcontracted groups. A lot of these involve translations, VA etc so the actual core dev team isn't quite so large.
Every time you say "EPD" I just imagine "Eepy Dee" like a sleepy Waddle Dee.
I think about the Police Department for an E place
EDP
Not 445?
I thought it was EDp
@@polishpower96 bruh💀
I’ve been wanting a compilation video like this, nice job!
This was a interesting look at all their studios and the fac that a lot of them haven't done anything in recent years is an indication that the next coneole will probably bring a wave of games in it's launch year.
Severely underrated channel. Been really enjoying your videos building up to Switch 2.
This is a very unique, undersubscribed channel. Keep up the good work, mate
Thank you!
The curse of niche TH-cam channels. It's a hidden gem for sure.
@@andynelson323 yeah, sadly
@@andynelson323 A hidden Gem like Celeste?!?!?!?!?
The Wonderful 101 isn’t a Nintendo IP anymore, as recently a document stated Platinum bought full rights of the IP from Nintendo recently.
every time people talk about how Splatoon and Animal Crossing share the same team, it really confuses me because the credits for Splatoon 3 seem to have very little overlap with Animal Crossing developers. Of course the main producer is involved with both, but pretty much none of the other developers seem to be.
He has a video about i
Yeah, I deep dived this here: th-cam.com/video/q92JOn2l_Qc/w-d-xo.html
People tend to assume "same producer, same team" and its just not accurate. "Team Asano" for example is basically just the producer... but the developers are different companies.
There is nothing that Nintendo can hide from this guy. Any thing the Big N does, Nintendo Forecasts KNOWS.
I love the visual graphic!!! 😄
I appreciate you dropping the infographic in the description.
I think support studios and what they do is very poorly understood in the video games industry as a whole, I’d love to see a video from you diving into some specific first party support studio and what the do etc. You do great work keep it up!
It is incredible how much work and information went into this. However, I must admit, that it was hard to follow with just voice over random clips from trailers. Maybe make the images shown more relevant to what you are currently talking about? I mean you already had the whole diagram that you could have used to highlight what you are currently talking about and which cross connections exist. I believe that would make things way easier to follow. Still outstanding work though. Keep it up!
Thanks. Eventually I'm sure it will need updating and I'll try to find a way to make it flow a bit better.
Your research is fantastic.. I was looking to find the time to look at this, but no need now.. great work!
I was waiting for this video, great job!
Thanks for putting this one together, I requested this topic a few months ago :)
Thanks for the suggestion!
Sega needs to make another F Zero. It's been 84 years.
I'm pretty sure SEGA is too preoccupied with the Sonic IP at the moment to care about making another F-Zero title for Nintendo
When you said "brace your self games"
I really thought you were telling your audience to brace themselves
Only the ones named Games.
Now do every PlayStat---- OH WAIT NEVERMIND THIS IS NINTENDO FORECAST MY BAD....
Sony (mostly) just buys studios and pays third party to go exclusive.
Thats why their "first party" games have no Sony "identity." For example: Astrobot. Its best described as a Nintendo platformer not by Nintendo.
Syn Sophia is apparently working on Fitness Boxing 3, so they kinda haven't completely moved on from working with Nintendo even though they're only publishing the game outside of Japan. Also, Genius Sonority is independent. I don't think TPC would have given them the leeway to make the Denpa Men games.
I do think it's worth noting that Nintendo's relationship with Eighting stagnated after the Kururin games and Master of Illusion, and yet they've seemingly come back in full force as one of EPD's most trusted partners in the Switch era. So I don't think any studio Nintendo's worked with before that is still around is off the table.
That's fair about 8ing - Tose is another studio that has been doing a lot of support work but has developed for Nintendo before. Still, in the interests of keeping it somewhat streamlined, I've stuck to recent teams. (Also, I suspect - though haven't checked - that it's a different group within 8ing who are after all quite a large company, well over 200 employees).
Seems like you missed Fire Emblem Heroes from Intelligent Systems. It's Nintendo's 2nd most successful (though through their partner) mobile endeavor, and it seems to be going relatively strong still.
I was trying (not entirely successfully) to focus on the non-mobile games since I can find credits for those. Heroes is on the infographic. I assume it's a subset of the same team.
As someone that still plays this game f2p, I'd argue it isn't doing that well. Still well enough to sustain itsself, but the powercreep is getting so insane that it becomes harder and harder to justify investing even just your time into it. I can't fathom how people spend money on the game with the rate at which these "investments" lose their value.
GOATED video and amazing content
Amazing video.
pretty sure ndcube change their name
Good point!
The only developer that matters is the one making the Advance Wars sequel. The core mechanic can be changing COs every turn. I’ll call it:
Advance Wars: Switch 2
What do you mean you can’t find any evidence of a sequel?!?!?!?!?
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can't wait for the Sony version of this video! don't worry about the grind of making it though, it'll probably only be a 3 minute vid...
Let’s hope no one Nintendo EPD is looking for cupcakes…
Crazy how theres 445 of these EDP groups. Sucks about the last one though
There's only 10
I'm probably in the minority, but I wish Nintendo would consolidate some of these mini-game collection teams & have them work on something more substantial.
We don't need multiple 1-2 Switch, Mario Party, Warioware & Wii Sports style games ever gen. That's not even counting games like Ring Fit, all the Labo stuff or Game Builder Garage.
I like experimental stuff, but these games are getting multiple releases each. And instead of feeling unique & original, they feel like release lineup filler & start feeling samey.
Obviously, I'm not saying abandon Mario Party or something, only that I don't feel like we need so many mini game collection party games.
Which one is making donkey kong
I've got a video addressing that coming up in the next few weeks.
The last one Tropical Freeze were made by Retro but the most recent rumor is there will be a 3D DK by Mario’s 3D team, which is EPD8
Probably still Retro. Why change horses in the middle of the stream, when theyre just 1 game away from completing a DKC Returns Trilogy.
@@DontKnowDontCare6.9 because retro is Making Metroid Prime 4 and I don't care who makes dkc6 so long as it has Kremlings in it
Who developed F-Zero 99?
NST
can you say send me a imgur of that image in the beginning with all the studios and epd? Its really good but its hard to see under youtube.
It's here: www.patreon.com/posts/nintendo-teams-112552482
Over a - thousand - people working on FETH?!?!
I don’t doubt your research but I’d think this makes FETH one of the biggest VG productions ever in history? (If not the biggest …)
Well, the credit lists takes about 1100 lines. It's probably a bit under 1000 in terms of named people but it includes subcontracted groups. A lot of these involve translations, VA etc so the actual core dev team isn't quite so large.