RV Disaster! Water Damage! And Slide Top Awning Repair!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 2024
- #rv #towing #trucks
BigTruckBigRV LIFE Channel: @BTBRV LIFE
Instagram: / bigtruckbigrv
Facebook: / bigtruckbigrv
Links to many of the accessories I review and use from etrailer!
www.etrailer.com/big-truck-bi...
RV Towing Upgrades
*Reese Goosebox Gen3: www.etrailer.com/Fifth-Wheel-...
*B&W OEM Gooseball: www.etrailer.com/Gooseneck/B-...
*B&W Fifth Wheel Hitch: www.etrailer.com/Fifth-Wheel/...
*B&W Sliding Fifth Wheel Hitch: www.etrailer.com/Fifth-Wheel/...
*Equalizer Weight Distribution Hitch: www.etrailer.com/Weight-Distr...
*B&W Tow and Stow Hitch: www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/...
*Curt Drop Hitch: www.etrailer.com/Drop-Hitch/C...
RV and Trailer Equipment Upgrades
*RoadArmor Suspension Equalizer: www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Leaf...
*HD Shackle Straps and Wet Bolts: www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Leaf...
*RV Suspension Upgrade (travel trailer, Cargo Trailer): www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Leaf...
*16” G Rated Wheel Tire Combo: www.etrailer.com/Boat-Trailer...
*Goodyear Endurance 15” Trailer Tire: www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wh...
*Goodyear Endurance 16” Trailer Tire: www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wh...
*Furrion Wireless Backup Camera: www.etrailer.com/RV-Camera/Fu...
*Furrion Wireless Side and Rear Cameras: www.etrailer.com/RV-Camera/Fu...
*Phoenix Electric Trailer Jack 4,000 lbs: www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack...
*GlowStep Revolution Steps: www.etrailer.com/RV-and-Campe...
*LCI Solid Steps: www.etrailer.com/RV-and-Campe...
*LCI AutoLeveling System: www.etrailer.com/Camper-Jacks...
*Reese Fifth Wheel Dual Motor Landing Gear: www.etrailer.com/Camper-Jack/...
Must Have Equipment!
*6000 Watt Generator Kit: www.etrailer.com/Generators/e...
*3200 Watt Inverter Generator: www.etrailer.com/Generators/e...
*2000 Watt Inverter Generator: www.etrailer.com/Generators/e...
*30amp to 50amp Power Cord: www.etrailer.com/RV-Wiring/Mi...
*LED RV Replacement Taillights: www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Ligh...
*Fastway Tire Chocks: www.etrailer.com/Camper-Jack/...
*RV Foam Sprayer: www.etrailer.com/Car-Cleaner/...
*RV Soap: www.etrailer.com/Car-Cleaner/...
Truck Upgrades
*Airlift 5000 Airbag Kit: www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Vehi...
*Airlift Wireless Air Controller: www.etrailer.com/Accessories-...
*Access Toolbox Bed Cover: www.etrailer.com/Tonneau-Cove...
*Bedrug Bed Liner: www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Truc...
*Floormats: www.etrailer.com/s.aspx?qry=F...
*Etrailer.com is the official sponsor of my channel. Equipment reviewed may have been provided by them as part of that sponsorship. All reviews are honest and unbiased. This channel is for entertainment purposes, and you should always do your own research prior to making a decision!
Sponsored items may be in this video. Always research multiple sources before making a purchasing decision. As an Amazon Associate, I earn commission from qualifying purchases. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
![[LIVE] : ONE ลุมพินี 73 วันนี้!! คู่เอก "วรพล vs พันฤทธิ์"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rrOljlqse3A/mqdefault.jpg)
Help from the cold north when winterizing open all valve then pour rv antifreeze down the drain and toilets. Keep pouring to you see pink you never have issues again.
Did you know you have vinyl flex hose connected to PEX fittings using PEX cinch clamps? Flex hose connected to PEX using Cinch clamps is actually agains residential code because it leaks, it’s not the right kind of connection. Good to keep an eye on those and replace with proper fittings at some point
Didn't wanna thumbs down due to damage.... So I didn't.
I did find it really COOL that your sharing the upkeep and things that can happen with us all....
Such valuable info
Thank you
Add a carport to the front of your building, I keep my 2021 East to West travel trailer under a carport and it's never in the sun or rain unless we are using it and it still looks like the day we got it. That Texas sun is going to tear those beautiful RVs up.... love your videos 🇺🇸
My friend had the same problem with his Lippert awning. We turned the roll by hand until we could insert a nail in the hole on the cup. This relieved the pressure on the roll and it was easier to push it in.
The awning roller end cap screws were falling out on our camper as well. The end caps used to be secured with blind pulled rivets on the older models, so that’s how I repaired them. Just drill them out one at a time and replace the screws with rivets.
Even in a sticks and bricks house, water leaks are the enemy. Water is our best friend and worst enemy. Good luck.
That end cap is supposed to be riveted onto the cylinder not self tapped screws, I have a Winnebago and it’s riveted, when I replaced my topper fabric I made sure to replace the rivets!
This is just lippert letting somebody cut a corner to save a few cents a unit it'll last long enough that's how an engineer can either be your best friend or worst enemy
I notice in the picture with all the plumbing lines visible some bad plumbing that should be addressed. There are Flex lines attached to Pex fittings with crimp Pex clamps. You can see the Flex lines swelling. They will eventually leak. That type of plumbing would not pass plumbing code anywhere in the country and the manufacturers know this but it's cheaper to do it this way and leaks will likely occur after the warranty expires. Shame on them and the RVIAA for not enforcing proper plumbing code. See Rigor RV Repair TH-cam channel for correction solutions. Good luck with it!
I was shocked when he lit up the plumbing! There's a reason building codes prohibit mixing PEX and flex hose fittings.
👍🍻
When I winterize I blow all the lines out.....drain and flush the water heater then I use a long blow gun nozzle, put it in each drain cover with a rag and blow all the traps out. I then pour RV antifreeze in all the traps and toilet. I leave all faucets open. I have used this method since 1996 on 5 coaches and never had a problem. This procedure takes about 30 min tops. If I have used the fresh water tank I also use the low point drain and blow air into the fill. I then pump antifreeze into the pump for about 5 seconds. Total antifreeze use is less than 1 gallon
You said you winterized, but you didn’t do it properly. You need to put significant antifreeze down all drains and toilets such that all elbows have antifreeze in them, instead of water. In addition to sucking it up in to the water lines via the aqua panel. Better luck with winterization next year!
That's where I messed up. I needed to add more
As a total newbie to the world of slides with our 2020 Torque toyhauler, I've been happy to see that we have no toppers at all! The roofs of our 3 slides are sloped down and away from the RV and covered with PVC roofing -- just like the roof of our RV! :) Simpler = mo' betta' on my side of the tracks! :)
I say this about both our camper, and our motorcycles. If you don't have the ability to fix most things yourself, or the means to pay someone to do it right, don't own campers or motorcycles (or boats maybe, but I've never been a boat owner so I don't know). Stuff like this happens way more often than we all like to admit, and the ability to fix it yourself is extremely valuable, especially if you are on the road and in a pinch.
Even more important on a boat that's more likely to get stranded in a VERY remote area. Been there many times over more than 20 years of cruising to Alaska and the Sea of Cortez
Thanks for the walk thru on that JD. It was nice to see the step by stem to find the problem.
Great, man what a relief, half the battle is finding were the leak is coming from but I know that you are so so glad you did.
I dump a whole gallon of anti-freeze down the drains in the RV after I run the lines and get some antifreeze into the drains/traps. Even then I worry that it's a water/antifreeze mix that will still cause issues. At least it looks like you have some good access to the problem area at least!
I'm sorry ! that really suck's at least you found it and it didn't destroy anything.
The cord coming out on the slide toppers happened to mine as well. I noticed it when it was out about 6 inches. All I did was cut it off and put a over sized screw in the end. That worked been good for over a year no issues.
I would definitely very carefully inspect everywhere that water could have gotten. If it's been leaking that long there's a good chance you've got mold and water damage in places other than what's very obvious from a initial inspection.
Good catch DJ. I’m waiting for your vid where you re-do everything to clean it all up and make everything more efficient. You’re the type of person that can/would do it.
Let it be a lesson and everyone else take note: After winterizing Always dump the remaining anti-freeze down all the drains to fill the traps. Even if you blow out with compressed air, the traps hold water so they have to be treated with anti-freeze.
I think the only thing I would have done differently up to this point is leave the bottom open and put a shop fan in the compartment and one underneath the RV pointing up. Laminated floors are great until they get wet. With no floor joists there is no properly repair a laminated floor if there is extensive damage. Unfortunately I dealt with this in a Grand Design and it was pretty much a total loss. We have a local RV tech here who is awesome and he said there was just no good/safe way to fix the extensive damage I had.
Even if you use compressed air to blow out the lines, you need to use a good dose of plumbing antifreeze in ALL the traps AND the toilet(s). This will protect the tank drain valves also.
Don’t forget the ice maker, washing machine and dishwasher if you have those appliances as well. RV washing machine is pretty simple: drain the water from the lint trap and replace the cap then dump a half gallon of antifreeze inside the machine and put the unit through a drain/spin cycle.
Need a cover for that RV, JD, like a carport or back it in the shop.
It’s killing me not to say something negative because man could I from looking at this disaster. It’s just a shame that there are not codes and rv manufacturers don’t have more pride in their work.
Also, if you twist the tube until the fabric lays completely open and loose, you can pin the awning to allow for easy installation.
I put a little rv silicone on those screws to help keep them in
They say if you see how sausages are made, you'll never eat one. That's applies to RV grade plumbing too. Once you've seen it, stay far away. Good detective work by you. Keep an eye on those leak prone pipe couplings and be ready to replace them all.
While your in there fixing the shower drain pipe take a look at the braided flex tubing they have PEX clamps on them that’s a big No No .Braided flex’s line will leak PEX crimp fittings on flex tubing to PEX fittings.A lot of the manufacturers do it and it’s wrong and it’s causing most leaks people have.
Did you try removing the tension on the awning and then push the cord back in? Another option might be to take the part you cut off and insert that into the other end to hold that end of the awning. I would worry about that end of the awning coming loose over time and start hanging.
Sorry for the bad luck on the freeze damage. I know you do not do it much since you are south. But blowing lines out is wonderful for freeze like you get. But remember to pour rv anti freeze down all drains to flush the water out of the drains.
Atleast you found before really bad damage.
LCI brands use pop rivets on the ens cap. Carefree brands all fail at some point and Garrard are just a pia.
My main lippert awning on my coachman had the same issue with cord coming out. I tried to shove the cord in. It also wouldn't roll in anymore. I have a manual awning. I rebuilt the springs and tensioners in the awning and it was better but not great so I took it to a dealer and they couldn't get thw cord in either. They cut it off.
You may want to keep an eye on the plumbing , Pex Fittings do not play well with vinyl tubing (Common leak points) . Manufactures can't even Plumb according to code. Pex Clamps leak on vinyl tubing. Good Luck.
I saw the same thing, you have a bunch of fittings that will eventually start leaking. I would get those flair-it fittings and start replacing or at least have them on hand.
In the recent past I had the same situation happen on our 5th wheel where the cord was protruding on the slide topper. I simply used a pair of needle nose pliers to grab the cord up close to the cover and slowly push it back into the groove. You will have to repeat this motion many times but it should get the job done. Work slowly and carefully not to destroy the cord.
Yup -- to do this properly you must get the tension off the topper. And aerosol silicone spray will become your best friend. Get the tension off the topper -- reinsert the cord into the topper edge -- secure the plastic cord with a screw at least at one end -- trim off the excess cord and as the Aussies say, "Bob's your uncle!" :)
Sorry for your troubles. That sucks. It’s strange that both awnings broke at the same time. All this almost makes me not want to buy an RV.
Another Lippert product that could be improved? Noooo way!!!!
Look forward to the following video. Could you do a video on camper plumbing using your camper as an example. Is it manufactured correctly etc.
Oh No...water leak...you know what that means...chassis is toast! 😯 Ohhh...and about 16:27 into the video where you show flex and pex tubing...BIG no no using pex fitting in a flex tube...also a BIG no no using pinch clamps on flexible tubing...more potential water leaks there JD. This type of issue is against code in a house because it can cause water leaks.
This is next on the list to fix on our trailer
So you're saying I have Pex-Flex? sorry, had to.
I saw that,too. That needs to be addressed soon. I saw an article saying that over half of the RV's that have been manufactured in the last 5 years are plumed incorrectly.
Just out of curiosity ,, why are rvs plumbing with lower pressure water line and fitting than a house. Is it just a way to be cut costs .
@@BigTruckBigRV 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have no idea why manufacturers don’t put a drain pan inset into the floor under the wet area to drain water out instead of allowing it to soak our flooring or underbelly so we never see it till there a bigger problem. A drain pan design and tube going out like our low water drain tubing make so much sense to me.
Totally agree!
None of these RVs are well-made.
I think some parts are some parts aren't.
The older rigs like mid 90’s to 2008 are built pretty well….
I think that an independent panel needs to perform a thorough examination of the LCI components with a non-biased eye. Hopefully it's not the dreaded 'slide-topper awning FLEX' which has been happening all over the RV Industry.
Well, when you are a weekend warrior, I guess you can't be considered an expert in RV related items, like how to winterize!! Time to call an expert to repair that and get rid of that soaked OSB board that will have black mold by summer. Oh well.
Ah yes. The joys of owning an RV. Good luck with the repair. Take pictures.
pro that there wasn't any insulation beneath the tanks. Con, lack of insulation and cold proofing. I had a leak caused by an addition I made. I had to remove and replace the insulation under the fresh and black tanks. But the black tank has R30 and the Grey has R-17 along with tank heaters. Superb insulation. Arctic Fox fifth wheel.
That's one of those cheap RV waterless plumbing traps. I'd swap it for a standard p-trap since it looks like you have plenty of room.
Rotate the tube to unroll all of the fabric and then it should slide back in easily. Shouldn't have needed to cut anything off.
too late
You can buy spline.
This shows your southern Texan winterization. Allways put RV antifreeze in your traps. We all learn this the hard way.
The RV’s mantra is “slap it together and move it out”.
From a good friend who is the GM of a Camping World location- Been in the RV industry for over 30 years, I asked him “If you spent your money on a new 5th wheel, which brand would you buy?”
His reply- “None- They’re all junk now. All of them”
Would putting loctite on those set screws keep this from happening again? Self tapping screws are faster to assemble saving LCI money. It seems that the bottom line takes priority over quality on a lot of their products.
When I replaced my motor the end caps had rivets. Had drill out and the motor came with new rivets. Rivets do not fall out.
I've seen where people cut of that cord and then put in back in the other end, then add the screws.
Those cords need to be secured with the screw and both sides. Make sure the vinyl is running the length of the mounting rail. Before ever cutting it.
Ah yes, self-tapping screws - because building RV components has somehow become a "temporary assembly and/or component life" endeavor.
What would be cool is to have the entire top of the trailer slide up and down vertically instead, to reduce exposure to all sorts of windage while towing.
JD remove screws one at a time and replace with a riveter. Some awnings actually use rivetes instead of screws
Probably caused by "Frame Flex"??? 😏
Was thinkin the same .
I think Pex-Flex
Are you going to make a video about the fix? I would very much like to see that.
Lippert strikes again.
You ought to put a little insulation around that pipe area and allow for some frame flex movement or not so ridged on plumbing issuesctoubmaychave
Oh man, been wanting an RV, so many issues. Maybe the best bet is buying used with confirmed warranty repair receipts exceeding 25k
15:17 All of that braided flexible water pipe will start leaking in a few years. I had to replace it all with pex in my camper. After several years, it gets hard, and the connections start dripping. Cold weather makes it worse.
As another person has said ,Rivots instead of screws,but rivnuts will work ,and i wonder if they used set screws because its easy to take apart if there are issues !
I hate those strip things that you had to shove back in. It's not fun at all. Also all the self tapper screws SUCK. They need to use something else for sure.
Yeah Brookstones are garbage I own a 2020 same model as yours and have had nothing but problems with it 🙄 and yup I had the same problem as mine ..the exact SAME pipe same place 🤦
It looks like there is a screw missing on the slide topper roller arm as well on the bedroom slide.
I always replace fasteners with stainless when it’s exposed to the environment!
I have been repairing R Vs for over 40 years. Do yourself a favor a git rid of the side toppers. More hassle than they are worth. I never of had topper on my trailers because of what I see on a regular basis go wrong. Mike
It's a LCI product, time to call your connections.
Nope, out of warranty. Fixed myself.
@@BigTruckBigRV I understand that part, but talk to them about correcting how that cap is installed.
I hate it when the anwing malfunctions.
Will you run a strong dehumidifier under the shower drain pipe a a mold prevention technique?
Funny you mentioned that. I did put my small dehumidifier under there for 2 days.
I hope your running a dehumidifier...
U should try swapping the screws for rivets
One look at the underbelly of your RV indicates how horrendous the build quality is...
miles of wires haphazardly strewn along the bottom of the RV, held up by only a small pine board, no zip ties, no wire loom, laying loose.
Complete garbage.
99% of them are all like that.
I can't even look. It gives me anxiety. These company's have no pride in their product. How much extra would it cost to use a few zip ties, and a little extra love in what they are doing? When your frame flexes, your roof leaks, when staples come popping out, and your plumbing leaks...It's covid fault.
@@DOO718 RV manufactures have been running wires like crap forever......actually, they run wires like home builders run wires. Shortest route, quickest drops, and lack of attachment. They feel "out of sight out of mind" because for the most part, the failures occur when a wire is drilled through, not when it's just laying there.
@@BigTruckBigRVthey need to follow the Marine industry standards
This is *checks notes from JD's water carrying of the industry* the consumers fault. There you have it JD, you used your RV wrong. Clearly your fault.
It was my fault. I didn't winterize it completely and something broke. My fault. 100%
I’m confused where the 3 gallons of water was the day before the freeze? Had the water been sitting there trapped for a while?
Do you know the Rockwool doesn't hold water (it literally drains right), is highly resistant to mold, discourages vermin, and would probably work perfectly in this application?
3:21 4 inches is allot sometimes no matter what some people say...😅
JD - my 392MBL did the same thing and never went through a freeze. Wonder if it’s an issue
I did a really cheap fix in the next video.
Did u drain fresh water tank before the freeze ?
Yes and also added RV antifreeze to all the drains. I guess there was a small amount of trapped water in the coupler.
QQQ - JD, do you (or anyone reading this) know of any organization that assists Disabled Veterans with locating and purchasing a used (inexpensive) RV to live in? NOT asking about financial assistance, just the locating, evaluating, and negotiating part. For example I have found a class A in Cleburne, TX but do not have RV purchasing experience and do not want to waste airfare without knowing it is a likely good deal worth purchasing.
Hmmm I'll see what I can find my friend.
@@BigTruckBigRV Great, Thanks
Dude. Flashlight
Quick question, sir. Do you get wind vibration from your slide toppers? Just purchased a KZ 5TH wheel and opted against them.
High winds cause them to whip like a flag. The one on my bedroom slide keeps me awake. The wind needs to be over 20 mph.
I really don't get any vibration from them unless I get a strange cross wind.
Thawing in Texas?
What are your thoughts on slide toppers? My dealer said most people don't like them cause they are noisy in the wind.
They are nice but so stink if it gets really windy. They add a a good amount of radiant heat blocking to the slide top though
@@BigTruckBigRV didn't think about blocking heat. That's a good thing!
Just curious, did you build the shop big enough to store your RVs in?
Yes. But I use most of the space in the shop
if companys like lci had to repair poorly designed products under a DECENT warranty they would change the design untill then why would they!?
Title. Awning
Hah thanks!
How old is your RV? Just curious ?
It’s a 2021.
early 2021 build
It would appear that you didn’t winterize properly, because from someone who lives in Upstate NY where temperatures reach well below 0, if you did no pipes or drains would have ever burst, just sayin’☹️
I poured RV antifreeze down all my drains.
@@BigTruckBigRV then your pipes shouldn’t have burst. When I winterize it takes me an hour to drain the low point drains, run antifreeze through all of my faucets, toilets and shower lines and then pour several ounces of antifreeze into each drain. Something isn’t adding up.
OK, I know you need the hits. That said, Why would you drop the lower panel before you looked for the leak in the basement area first. Leaks come from above, not below. Also, it is horrible the wiring that dropped down when you dropped the lower panel. Iv'e watched many videos of people dropping those panels and never seen that amount of wiring hanging. Horrible workmanship. That said, you have great videos.
Remember, there's a floor system between the tanks the basement and the upper deck. There was no water leaking until you ran the shower, since it's the drain on the shower.. The budge coming from underneath the RV fold me into thinking there was no water trapped in it.
Are head mounted cameras really that difficult to use. So many people awkwardly do things one handed rather than have an assistant or wear a camera.
Head mounted cameras are heavy and get in the way.
@@BigTruckBigRV Fair enough. I only fix and build and never record it.
@@TheMonkdadbrother, you should try recording and editing. Makes a 30min job a 3hr job.
More quality out the RV industry🤦♂️
All junk yet everyone gets a hard-on for these massive piles called RV’s…
I was watching your video when you found the leak in the shower drain. You then panned the camera to show your water lines and according to a recent video, the flexible lines may be connected incorrectly. The pex is ok but the flex line needs a different type of connector. This is where I saw the video: th-cam.com/video/YPQ_aTOW5xw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MLgtiR3w2WmEIwLm
Every awning has that cord running the entire length of the awning to hold the awning on just as all awnings have had for decades, so if you cut it off you are just compromising the awning and setting yourself up for future failure🫤
Might as well spend a day down there and cut those pex rings off those flex hoses...them are a no no ya know