EXCLUSIVE! FURRION CHILL CUBE INSTALL! AC UPGRADE! Variable Speed Inverter RV AC!
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Very cool! Cant wait for the ducted version to come out. Thanks for the video!
Nothing for ducted yet? Also, is the heat pump out yet?
Black to ground red to 12v and the heat function is just a relay so if the furance kicks on when you tie the two wires together. Then just tie them to the brown wires..
If it needs a 12v signal and ground you can wire 1 of the brown thermostat wires to 12v the other brown to the furnace trigger and the ground to the black ground wire.
We love the Chill Cube in our Brinkley Z 3100 for all the reasons you mentioned. So quiet and efficient 😊
I was surprised to see the lever wire connectors from the factory. Impressive.
This looks like a great idea for a post-factory 2nd AC unit. You don't have to run the wires for a thermostat and it doesn't have to be ducted. Great installation video and I'm excited to see this in action in future videos.
Thanks for sharing this one for us!!!
Pat
I just purchased one of these units from my RV dealer. They had to get the furrion PN and order it through Keystone. Can't wait to get it installed!
Can’t wait to see you test this out
I was hoping that you weren’t gonna accidentally hit those solar panels. Nice eyeballing that from the mini-ex. Noticed the wind picked up. Wondered if it wasn’t gonna rain on you. You gonna make a follow up video for the furnace?
I sure am! Thanks
Can't wait for the Heat pump version 😊
Thank you a ton for this video, our furion chill has developed a gasket leak inside the coach, now I know what to expect when tackling this job. Always appreciate your videos!
Finally that tech has made it to RVs. Such a good application for this tech. I can't wait to see more on this.
Oh yeah baby. I can't wait to see what portable power units this can run on!
Glad you mentioned the furnace. I was waiting to catch you on that😅😅😅. I would love to find something better in my rv. We have a “whisper quiet” and it’s loud and doesn’t cool great. Doesn’t seem like much air flow. New to rving ish. We are full timing in a stationary park. It hasn’t been hot yet but to me it gets hot in the rv
Thats a great unit. Well done.
I'd love to have that in a ducted heat pump system . My older AC is ok but that would be great!
Getting back to your thermostat controller for heat you might need to either use the relay box you took down or put a 2 wire digital thermostat on it and figure out what wire goes where.
I just used separate standard / mechanical 2 wire thermostat to control furnace, when i upgraded like 3 years back to Atwood Ducted 16K AC with heat pump that has its own hardwired controller.
I like the low noise level of that unit. 18k btu is great especially here in inland California. I’m not as thrilled about the remote as you are. It’s another remote to lose!😂. I would like to see it designed with the option of using the remote or the wall thermostat. That would solve your furnace dilemma as well. Very nice install. If it were available without the remote and just a direct swap using the thermostat I would consider it in the future. The Furrion AC on my Surveyor is a bit noisy but works better than any AC I’ve had in the past. It was 90 degrees here today. There was no issue keeping the trailer cool and it didn’t run that much!
It looks like it comes with a wall mount, so you can just leave it on the mount so you don't lose it.
Awesome!!!! Just missing your power draw specs!!! We were just specing out residential install in 42 Grand Design RV. Will wait now!!
Ive been waiting for years for this!! As an air conditioning technician for 20 years this has been a big day coming! No more mini splits! Although I would like a heat pump. Being a specialist in large variable speed systems this is exciting. Have they released a date for the heat-pump system as of yet?
I was told July
I’m guessing July for a ducted model?
Great video hey I believe the thermostats temp sensor is in the ac unit. Not the wall thermostat. One major flaw. Even the micro air and domestics do not have a thermistor. Please do a follow up video on how you are going to get the furnace to work. Thanks
Been eagerly watching for this unit to hit the market. My new to me Class A needs a new front AC unit and this unit should be able to run off my solar and alternator charger without draining my batteries while going down the highway.
I'm going to replace both units on our Jayco Eagle 355mbqs... it has their "whisper quiet" ducting which is actually quieter than most but not by much. I'm seriously considering abandoning the ducts for the living room unit and only using the ducts for the bedroom unit since they're all connected. That would keep 100% of the living room air in the living room and ducting from the bedroom into both the bedroom, living room, and bunk room (put a booster fan on the bunk room - massive improvement!). Anyway, I'm really looking forward to future reviews! Thanks!!
Nice install, I would love to do the same thing to my 5th wheel and I see how easy it is minus getting it up top.
Very thorough video - thank you.
That's really cool 😊 what's next for the trailer maybe some strong arm stabilizers ?
I have seen various Variable Speed Inverter AC for houses in past and with great advantage on power, generally they do not last long. Not related to RV , talked to a few mechanics and they love to replace controller boards or the unit at a full price. If used sparingly and costs the same as the older design then yes they might be the rite fit for someone.
I’m surprised and impressed that they used wagos.
Love the concept. Unfortunately, I have to use low profile A/C units (Penguin 2) because of the height of my rig. If I don't, I won't fit under low bridges. @16:35... The way you get it out is by using two hands. You really need a tripod.
Yeah I don't really like the remote part of it that'll be cool for an option but I'm still like a physical thermostat
another idea for your furnace that i think i'm going to tackle this year too, you can just install a traditional millivolt thermostat on the wall that doesn't require any jumping of 12 volt to anything. where grand design placed my t-stat in my 2600RB makes the furnace short cycle. it's literally right across from a heat duct, very annoying to have it turn off and on all night rapidly. so i want to run a wire directly up the wall and put it above the kitchen sink that has no direct heat blowing on it. also i assume they're coming out with a ducted unit?
So this unit has the air flow in the direction of the front of the RV, is this correct? I think I will be installing this on my 2016 Keystone Hideout which has one of the loudest AC units I have ever heard. No thermostat controls so it is simpler on the wiring than yours with the wall mounted thermostat control. The biggest challenge will be on and off the roof. 😊 Thank you for this video.
Thank you so much for your time. Praise God
I believe you should just be able to tie the furnace wires to the old thermostat wires, I would pick the white and red, then replace that digital thermostat with an old-school analog one
I want to put one of these in my 2001 Airstream when the time comes. Need the heat pump version and to wire it so i can control the factory furnace from the thermostat separately!! Any insights would be appreciated.
Any news on the small version the mentioned? Would be great for a truck camper!
I'm just curious why you didn't replace the 2nd unit that you have installed over the main unit. Seems like the 2nd unit would have been more "plug and play" over replacing the main unit since it has the controls on the unit itself.
Camera on tripod? Use lift straps on A/C therefore no hand lifting is needed?
can you find out when it will be available for purchase by a consumer. and pricing. Thank you
As an owner of a 2004 class A with 30A service, I've been very interested in something like this. My question is, with the AC even in your placement in front of the bedroom where the air is blowing away from it, how do you actually cool the bedroom?
On my class a, the rear AC is next to the AC and front toilet in front of the bedroom. I also have a duct system which looks like it will be unusable
I thought I heard you say that you're reusing the original control box. In that case, there's no reason to disconnect DC, 120v or heater (or thermostat for a remote thermostat unit); just leave them all wired and let the control box dangle. You only need to disconnect the rooftop connector from the control box. That saves several steps, and minimizes the possibility of screwing up wiring. Of course, if you're using a new control box, then you do have to disconnect all of that.
For the wall thermostat and heater.....take +12VDC in the overheard, wire it to red to thermostat. Blue from the thermostat should go to -12VDC (aka, "ground"). White from the thermostat will go to one leg of the heater; and the other leg will be tied to -12VDC/ground with the blue t-stat wire. So red and blue send 12VDC to the t-stat. When the t-stat calls for heat it sends 12VDC down the white leg to the furnace. Some furnaces are sensitive to polarity, so you may have to reverse which furnace lead goes to white from the t-stat and which goes to -12VDC/ground.
I was surprised that your RV did not have ceiling vents. Is there a unit that will work with ceiling vents?
They will have a ducted version and one with a heat pump. Our Surveyor doesn't not need a ducted system
It looks like the conditioned air will only be distributed to the front of your rv!
Have you been out yet to give it the real world test?
Also supposed to be efficient so will it operate with a 2000 watt generator?
What’s MSRP on that unit? I have a pop up that is pre wired for an ac unit. I’m trying to decide on either doing a couple of things to it to make it more user friendly or upgrading to a different camper.
I have not been able to find a dealer for the chill cube
You need a tripod for your camera and how much is that furion unit
How does this connect to the duct work of an outgoing unit?
Just curious why you didn't just replace that other unit with this one so you could still control your furnace without having to rewire it?
If you have the ability to measure, would you comment on the wattage draw on max cooling? Thanks
Seems to me that Furrion could have just as easily provided furnace connections and use the same remote for both functions, cooling & heat. Having so that you have to power the furnace separately seems like an oversight on their part.
Ok you said you have the auxiliary cool unit. I am going to assume that it was not a heat pump and is just conventional cooling units we are wiring.
You also have the heater. I suspect that the 2 wire lead goes to the heater. The second 5 or 7 wire cable may go to the auxiliary ac. The last wire set goes to the thermostat. You also had the main 12v wire red and black.
First verify the 2 wire connection at the furnace I suspect one wire was ground and the other wire is positive voltage supplied from the tstat to turn on the ignition for the furnace. Very rare to have a wire that would just turn on the furnace blower motor. But worth inspection.
Thermostat wires are usually red 12v positive. Black is common groundand would connect to C not G terminal. W is heat usually white wire.
In cooling mode the yellow wire turns on the ac and the green wire turned on the fan. In heat mode the white wire from the Thermostat W would connect to the red wire on the 2 wire cable going to the furnace and the white wire would go to ground or C. Again verify that the heater only required power and ground. Their is a 25% chance that a blower signal was sent on the white wire to the furnace.
That should provide restoration of heat on the thermostat. Now a bigger question the auxiliary ac was it tied into this tstat as well. If it was it could be tied to a different color wire coming from the tstat. Check the stat for the yellow wire. If their is a terminal block on the wall that the stat plugs into it it would be y1 is yellow to the first stage of cooling if their is a y2 what ever wire it is was likely used to😅 power the auxiliary ac. I did see in the video that a blue wire was in use.
When y1 is active the first ac turns on then on a timer in the stat at a further rise in temperature the y2 would bring on the second stage of cooling. Possible the blue wire was the auxiliary cool.
You can connect the auxiliary ac to y1 and the fans are controlled on the G terminal and usually have a green wire control the fan for manualair movement.
NOTE Ground is marked as C as in common.
Hopefully this helps. If it is a heat pump system their are other wiring senerios. 😅 and the blue wire is what changed it from heat to cool mode and depending on the heatpump it could be powered too energize the reversing valve putting it in to heat mode and the gas furnace could be a second stage or auxiliary heat.
Wonder if they will make a low profile unit for the taller RV’s ? I know our 5thwheel has to have low profile, even with the low profile we are at 13’6 total height on our rig .
I’m also wondering if they will have one for ducted RV’s . That’s also what we have on or current 5thwheel.
I’m watching now. Did he say how much it is?
Not sure yet
Would this be too much for a 19 foot camper? I hate how loud ours is and it just don’t seem to cool as it should without freezing.
My furrion only works well in dry mode but then you lose temp control and it will be 60° in my trailer.
Perhaps the word cube isn't its official name Which would explain why I can't find it on their website. You would think they would make a big deal out of it. And have it right on their website. But I i can't even find the oscillating flap interior panel.
My question: is it worth all the trouble of buying one and having to replace it? How much more efficient is it? Can it actually cool your trailer? We have a 2023 flagstaff 832bws and it has two ACs and we cannot run our acs in the summer because our bill will be $500 a month and they wouldn’t even cool the trailer down. We have to run. Big old swamp cooler that so loud. I guess I’m saying I don’t want to get hyped about the product and go buy 2 to replace our Coleman machs and it not even make that much of a difference
They dont cool and cost you so much money because the colman mach ac units are the cheapeast and worst units in the rv industries between my parents and mine we have replaced 5 any other unit would be better and sounds like you need 15k btu units for both.
So now that you have it up and running - What is your typical wattage draw? We have a real minisplit currently but I would love a less complicated install on our next rig.
Around 800-1000 running. 200 fan only
I want two of them! How much will they be?
Curious with vent towards kitchen how hot the bunks are in the back? Are biggest issue is no circulation in bunk area.
For this system, you'd have to either rely on circulation or point the vents straight down to act similar to the unit we removed
Where can I buy this right now or is it available yet.?
I wonder if that would fit into my max-air exhaust fan hole :)
yes. standard 14" x 14" hole.
what about duct systems
Where is it made at?
I'm a little miffed that I carried the the air conditioner down the ladder on my shoulder, and you had machinery for it.
What can I say, you're just that much stronger, more daring and cooler that I...
@@BigTruckBigRV HA! That or I live in a neighborhood with a fascist HOA that does't allow me to have a tractor of any kind. As soon as my kids are out of high school, I'm out of here.
How do you buy it?
Yeah this is great in all. But what about the people who are sleeping in the bunk how do they get air flow to them? When I sleep in my bunk I like to have the air directed on me. With this model it doesn't look like any one staying on the bunk side we'll get any air. It looks like by the time the people sleeping in the bunk would be cool the people sleeping on the bed where the air flow is directed would be freezing. So this doesn't seem like a good idea for everyone.
Ill take your old unit off your hands. 😁 I have a failed AC unit at the moment
Is that new unit taller? That could be a concern for a 5th wheel like mine that is already 13' 5". That only gives me an inch of play to be legal. So if that unit is 2" taller then I'd be over hieght limit. No Bueno.
Same height as the one removed
@@BigTruckBigRV good to know. Thanks.
How much are they JD 😊
Where can I find the chill cube for sale?
We have a 2019 grand design solitude 2930 it has a ducted system. Well the system work in it?
From the first video on it, they said they was going to make a ducted one
Would need to controll heat.
Does the backhoe come with the unit or will I have to purchase that separately?
Backhoe and/or Excavator are optional.
Where can I buy one
Would be a lot smarter design if the unit had lifting eyes eliminating back breaking work.
Will these units work on a ducted A/C system
They will have a ducted version.
How much
Just a heads up. Lippert just told me it will be at least one year before these will be available for aftermarket......😢
Really? Time to make some calls :)....unless they are trying to meet RV Manufacturer demand
I just spent 15 minutes on furions website and I don't see anything that says furion chill cube. A web link to the actual unit would be helpful rather than just the air conditioning section of their website. Where this unit doesn't exist.
I believe it’s scheduled for July 202&
Those frame flex videos are really paying off.
Yep, they educated almost EVERYONE with the perceived issue what was actually happening. Now people know what to look for. Thanks!
Okay, never mind. It's odd that the phone goes to a different page than the pc.
So does one just need to watch E Trailer to find out when and where a person can purchase one?
So is there a ducted unit?
Soon
How can we buy the Fureen chill cube?
I’m hoping to get one as well. Any luck getting any information on when they will be available?
I like my Microair thermostat and the ability to remote control it so an AC that's not connected to a thermostat wouldn't be of any interest to me. Also the Furrion products I own tend to be the biggest pieces of junk. Especially the high dollar backup camera system.
Need a heat pump
Would be nice to have one, but the RV has a furnace already. Heat pump model will be available soon
Tell us the price of the cube. There nothing on line yet. Jealous
Not sure exactly. I suspect around $1500. Similar to other larger RV AC units. Except this one is 18k BTU
@@BigTruckBigRV any new on 13.5
@@BigTruckBigRV Heat pump feature?
How stupid to make the technology everyone needs but to put in in a direct dump only system. Because an 18k BTU unit is so cold that is all the more reason it should be ducted. If RV's are large enough of course they can't be evenly cooled by direct dump. If they aren't to large for DD then they are to small for an 18k BTU unit. If they make a ducted version this product is gold but until they do I know I wouldn't consider it.
When are they going to sell this?