Wish Netherealm would just stick with the same voice actors. It’s annoying how many voice actors they change from game to game. I think the voices of mk11 are great and I really hope they don’t switch out most of them in the next game
Well the thing is they not only voice the characters , they give them their likeness now. So unless MK12 keeps the same faces for every characters , you can expect new faces and new voices
They should've kept tom Choi as liu kang and karen strassmen as kitana. Honestly, injustice 2 starfire as kitana and injustice 2 atom as liu kang is... meh
It sucks seeing some voice actors go, but seeing the characters have more traditional voices relating to their nationalities is cool. Sonya still sucks however, I’m sorry
Scorpion - Patrick Seitz is THE voice of Scorpion, though Ron Yuan did a good job, Seitz just gives the character more fire and passion. Frost - Sara Cravens, mostly just due to the sample size, Frost had 2 lines in MKX, hard to give a real comparison. Fujin - Matthew Yang King - Big improvement from MKX where Fujin sounded too generic Kung Lao - Both are good are representing the age that the character is in their respective games. Lee is good for old Kung Lao, while Malhotra is good for young Kung Lao. Malhotra also does a better job of conveying the superiority complex that Lao has. Liu Kang - Once again, I think both are good for the age that the character is. Choi for older Liu Kang, King for younger. I think I give Choi the slight nod since he was also the VA in MK9, and I'm just kind of used to his voice for Liu Kang. Kitana - Karen Straussmen I think has the perfect voice for Kitana. Kitana is an Outworld princess, she needs to have some brutality or harshness to her voice. Walgren is a damn good VA, but I'm not the biggest fan of her softer Kitana. Sindel - Mara Junot I think hit this role out of the park, she did a fantastic job. I love Kelly Hu as a voice actress and she does alright here as Sindel, but Junot really took it to the next level. Jax - Similar to Kung Lao, I think both VAs are great for the age the character in their respective games. Eagles (and Weathers) is an awesome old Jax, while Stephens is a great young Jax. I personally slightly prefer Eagles, but both do a good job here. Jacqui Briggs - Personally prefer Nicolet's version to Echikunwoke, MKX's version of Jacqui is more believably military, both in look and in personality. However, both VAs did well overall. Cassie Cage - Personally prefer Burch to Lindbeck here, largely because MK11 Cassie sound YOUNGER than MKX's, which doesn't make sense. Also similar to Jacqui, Burch's character looks and sounds more military. Overall, however, both VAs did very well here as well. Sonya Blade - Tricia Helfer by a landslide. Kano - Tough to choose on this one, I really like McConnohie's voice as an older Kano and Blanc's as a younger one. Both are very good, but personally there's just something about McConnohie's take on the character that I like more. Blanc does make the Aussie come out more, however. Really tough choice on this one.
I PREFER CASSIE CAGE TO BE MORE CASUAL AND MORE YOUNGER THAN MKX. BECAUSE CASSIE IN MKX IS SO MILITARY AND SERIOUS BUT I LOVE HER. CASSIE CAGE ON MK11 FOR ME BETTER SUITE THE CHARACTER COZ IT GAVE HER MUCH PERSONALITY OF A INTERNET GIRL, NOT TO MENTION THAT SHE IS CHOSEN FOR THE HARLEY QUINN SKIN (WHICH IS VERY PSYCHOTIC AND CHILDISH) JAQUIE AND SONYA ALSO HAVE MORE BETTER VOICE THAN MKX
Most of mk11 characters voices sound like what they look like for the most part. Still preferred mkx Jax and Scorpion and Carl Weathers voicing Jax too, but that is just my personal opinion not to mention their newer voices sound exactly just like their newer design would say like.
everytime I hear Kung Lao's voice lines, I always think of Wei Shen from Sleeping Dogs (Will Yun Lee is also the VA for Wei Shen). Both VA's for Kitana are also VA's for characters in Skyrim. Also MK 11's VA voices Misty from Cyberpunk
Frost: MK X- A new voice actress MK 11- Let's use power girl to be frosty Kitana: MK X- ???????? MK 11- Let's have Starfire as the bladed fan girl Jacqui: MK X-???????? MK 11- Guys let's not forget the time atom mentioned to vixen Jacqui and takeda.
Mkx had a better Kitana/Mileena, Sonya, liu kang and Kung Lao voice actors/actresses. Definitely think they should have kept some of those actors/actresses, especially Karen playing Kitana/Mileena.
MKX's Kano did alright but as an Aussie, there's just something about JB Blanc's version that he just GETS the character. Like, he dialed the bogan-ness up to 11.
A lot of people still hate Rousey. I never hated her but did feel she needed her ego cut down; which of course happened. I don't care now. I too think she did a fine job. Side note, you have probably seen the new skins that just came out. Glad they brought Bridget Wilson back to voice Sonya.
Kari is a great VA, but I dont like her as Kitana, especially Mileena. I like how Grey DeLisle voiced Kitana in MK Legends battle of the realms. I'd much prefer her to voice Kitana and Mileena in future MK games. I loved Karen too, but I dont know if shes coming back.
Mkx actors feel more attached to the character thier speaking than mk11 Mk11 voices feel more dramatized and over cinematic which is strange to actually hear what that sounds like As a matter of fact I’ll do my pick for the actors in a minute
IMO I think mk11 scorpion is better. He sounds more connected to his Asian roots, and I think the mkx one kinda just sounded like a generic deep voiced villain.
I grew up playing Diablo, Starcraft, and Legacy of Kain games. The voice acting in mk11 isn't too bad and some is fantastic, but the earlier games sounded terrible in comparison. Those blizzard and Crystal Dynamics games and others like the KotR entries that I've heard the clips of but not played are also top notch. Mk11 Jax is GREAT, totally fits the character but I haven't seen anyone else mention him, maybe it's just me. Of course Keith David makes them all sound amateur by comparison.
JB Blanc/Kano in MK11 is the best Kano voice. MK11 Sonya not my thing... my guess is Tricia Helfer became too expensive for them, since she's famous for her voice acting, especially in games (voice of Kerrigan).
Mkx mostly. And They are all the same from mk9 as well. Besides sindel and sheeva I prefer their 9 actress they ruined sindel story wise and sheeva design wise. And they are superior to the 11 actors in almost every way. I do like a few actors in 11 but I would not replace the previous for them
okay, can we have a new protag? like Cassie or Johnny? I mean I hate Liu Kang ever since MK1 never really cared for the dude hope MK12 focuses on Sub-zero or Scorpion I mean the two of the most iconic duo in Fighting game history there like the Ryu and Ken of MK fuck Liu Kang.
I prefer MKX voice actors morer... Cassie in MKX has better voice actress, just because she sounds like Cage, Mk11 sounds like a school girl Katana/Mileena MKX. Wtf, why she wasn't in mk11???? She gave that voice for Kitana/Mileena, that they needed...... Kari's Kitana is kinda mommy's daughter, and mileena is just mad ... Sonya of course Tricia....
Scorpion Mkx Frost Mkx Fujin Mk11 Kung Lao Mk11 Liu Kang Both Kitana Mkx Sindel Mk11 Jax Mkx by a lot Jacqueline Briggs Mkx Cassie Cage Mkx (I fucking hate mk11 Cass) Sonya Mkx Kano Mkx
MKX had nice graphics but look at these facial animations in MK11. Also, MK11 has better skin shader (smoother, more fleshy and less sweaty) and has no bones jiggling around on fatal blows. MK11 has better graphics, but MKX graphics is decent for its time. I find voice acting roughly the same quality, but I think MK11 has better writing.
MK11 Cassie is not bad, but it feels YOUNGER than MKX Cassie
Ikr
Yeah, but mk11 cassie seems to have more personality
Yeah but I mean, we got Erica Lindbeck voicing her now
Yeah I prefer mkx Cassie, she sounds more funny with sarcasm
Sounds childish
I think everyone and their grandma prefer MKX Sonya than Ronda Blade.
I love ronda
It's Sonya rousey
Considering Hanzo IS from Asian descent, the new voice acting makes more sense.
He doesn't do as good as a job in my opinion
@@Motus_Noctis Patrick is far better than New one
@@furkan.huworang5371 that's what i'm saying
Yeah, scorpion is the only change that i am upset with, Patrick was the best scorpion
Not really isn’t Hanzo Japanese and his actor Chinese.
I kinda prefer Cassie's mkx voice over mk11 one.
Strange how it's the future but she sounds younger lol
MK 11's voice actor is really cringe
@@Motus_Noctis what, why?
@@catfaceman1669 i don't mean the voice actress herself i mean the way she portrays cassie is just so cringe and irritating
@@Motus_Noctis just like your Pfp
Wish Netherealm would just stick with the same voice actors. It’s annoying how many voice actors they change from game to game. I think the voices of mk11 are great and I really hope they don’t switch out most of them in the next game
I'm not mad at any of the changes but scorpion, i really wish they kept Patrick, he will for ever be the best scorpion/ hanzo hasashi
Well the thing is they not only voice the characters , they give them their likeness now. So unless MK12 keeps the same faces for every characters , you can expect new faces and new voices
I heard some of them went on VA strike cos they didn't feel like they were getting paid enough.
They should've kept tom Choi as liu kang and karen strassmen as kitana. Honestly, injustice 2 starfire as kitana and injustice 2 atom as liu kang is... meh
@@son_of_sparda_dx I feel like the new va for scorpion is a better hanzo
Mk11 Jax is good for the younger Jax, but Greg Eagles takes the trophy for best older Jax.
Eagles sounds more intimidating to me which is why I like him more
Patrick better scorpion
Ron better Hanzo
yessir
It sucks seeing some voice actors go, but seeing the characters have more traditional voices relating to their nationalities is cool. Sonya still sucks however, I’m sorry
The girl that voiced Cassie from mkx is also the girl that voiced Chloe from life is strange so tbh that was the best vice actor for her
And the voice of Aloy in Horizon Zero Dawn
also the girl who voices Sasha from attack on titan !!
She also voiced Aloy from horizon zEro dawn
And She played Kate Bishop from Marvel's Avengers.
Miss pauling from team fortress 2
I just realize The guy who voice scorpion it’s also the guy who voice DIO from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventures
🙀🙀🙀🙀
And Jiren in the DragonBall Super English Dub.
Geez man, the next Scorpion can Stop TIme
And Hector from Fire Emblem Heroes
Scorpion - Patrick Seitz is THE voice of Scorpion, though Ron Yuan did a good job, Seitz just gives the character more fire and passion.
Frost - Sara Cravens, mostly just due to the sample size, Frost had 2 lines in MKX, hard to give a real comparison.
Fujin - Matthew Yang King - Big improvement from MKX where Fujin sounded too generic
Kung Lao - Both are good are representing the age that the character is in their respective games. Lee is good for old Kung Lao, while Malhotra is good for young Kung Lao. Malhotra also does a better job of conveying the superiority complex that Lao has.
Liu Kang - Once again, I think both are good for the age that the character is. Choi for older Liu Kang, King for younger. I think I give Choi the slight nod since he was also the VA in MK9, and I'm just kind of used to his voice for Liu Kang.
Kitana - Karen Straussmen I think has the perfect voice for Kitana. Kitana is an Outworld princess, she needs to have some brutality or harshness to her voice. Walgren is a damn good VA, but I'm not the biggest fan of her softer Kitana.
Sindel - Mara Junot I think hit this role out of the park, she did a fantastic job. I love Kelly Hu as a voice actress and she does alright here as Sindel, but Junot really took it to the next level.
Jax - Similar to Kung Lao, I think both VAs are great for the age the character in their respective games. Eagles (and Weathers) is an awesome old Jax, while Stephens is a great young Jax. I personally slightly prefer Eagles, but both do a good job here.
Jacqui Briggs - Personally prefer Nicolet's version to Echikunwoke, MKX's version of Jacqui is more believably military, both in look and in personality. However, both VAs did well overall.
Cassie Cage - Personally prefer Burch to Lindbeck here, largely because MK11 Cassie sound YOUNGER than MKX's, which doesn't make sense. Also similar to Jacqui, Burch's character looks and sounds more military. Overall, however, both VAs did very well here as well.
Sonya Blade - Tricia Helfer by a landslide.
Kano - Tough to choose on this one, I really like McConnohie's voice as an older Kano and Blanc's as a younger one. Both are very good, but personally there's just something about McConnohie's take on the character that I like more. Blanc does make the Aussie come out more, however. Really tough choice on this one.
I PREFER CASSIE CAGE TO BE MORE CASUAL AND MORE YOUNGER THAN MKX. BECAUSE CASSIE IN MKX IS SO MILITARY AND SERIOUS BUT I LOVE HER.
CASSIE CAGE ON MK11 FOR ME BETTER SUITE THE CHARACTER COZ IT GAVE HER MUCH PERSONALITY OF A INTERNET GIRL, NOT TO MENTION THAT SHE IS CHOSEN FOR THE HARLEY QUINN SKIN (WHICH IS VERY PSYCHOTIC AND CHILDISH)
JAQUIE AND SONYA ALSO HAVE MORE BETTER VOICE THAN MKX
5:08 “Can I say it. Just once. Get over here!”
How cringe
@@Motus_Noctis lmao I see you hate the new Cassie, just appreciate she changed ✋🏼🙄
@@SuperJGGaming No
@@Motus_Noctis Oh well sad life I guess :/
Only wish to suffer.
The hardest choice is Kano. MKX's raspy voice is more similar to the movie but I just love Blanc's menacing tone
Most of mk11 characters voices sound like what they look like for the most part. Still preferred mkx Jax and Scorpion and Carl Weathers voicing Jax too, but that is just my personal opinion not to mention their newer voices sound exactly just like their newer design would say like.
MKX is just so much better
I agree mostly on Mileena and Kitana
Except Sindel
everytime I hear Kung Lao's voice lines, I always think of Wei Shen from Sleeping Dogs (Will Yun Lee is also the VA for Wei Shen).
Both VA's for Kitana are also VA's for characters in Skyrim. Also MK 11's VA voices Misty from Cyberpunk
I hope they stick with this cast next game
Frost: Sub Zero has made us weak
Me: Nope, you’re Karen Starr of earth 2
5:17 that's my favorite line from Sonya Blade in MK X
I love most of mk11 voice actors more but the only one I wish they kept was scorpion but the current scorpion is a great hanzo for sure
I just can’t see Patrick Seitz coming out of Hanzo in this game lol
Apart from Sindel and Liu Kang, MKX voices are better imo.
True, but mkx liu kang sounds more serious
Sindel best voice actor is still mk9
I hope they keep the mk11 ones this time it was an improvement
Frost:
MK X- A new voice actress
MK 11- Let's use power girl to be frosty
Kitana:
MK X- ????????
MK 11- Let's have Starfire as the bladed fan girl
Jacqui:
MK X-????????
MK 11- Guys let's not forget the time atom mentioned to vixen Jacqui and takeda.
Liu Kang:
MKX- ????????
MK11- Let’s use the Atom
Shao Kahn:
MKX- ????????
MK11- Let’s use Atrocitus
Yeah this is weird
Mkx had a better Kitana/Mileena, Sonya, liu kang and Kung Lao voice actors/actresses. Definitely think they should have kept some of those actors/actresses, especially Karen playing Kitana/Mileena.
I love Karen's Mileena and Kitana. I really get the hots for them, they sound so much sexier
I disagree about liu kang voice actor i think the new one did great.
MK11 Kano sound's more aussie than MKX
he also voices Kuben Blisk in Titanfall, who also is an aussie
@@toxicweeb1 no, he's south african
@@audiobook5860 yeah idk what was I thinking
@@toxicweeb1 and Saxton Hale from team fortress 2
Yk I kinda hate that every mk game it’s different faces and voices I wish things would be consistent starting with mk 11
I love Ashley Burch. Orendi, big fan.
Be nice to have the mkx actors being the present/old characters while the new actors as the young versions
be nice no?
Definitely MKX Cassie Cage and Mileena over MK11
Cassie in 11 is really cringe
@@Motus_Noctis Just like your Pfp
MKX's Kano did alright but as an Aussie, there's just something about JB Blanc's version that he just GETS the character. Like, he dialed the bogan-ness up to 11.
Karen is the best voice actor for kitana and mileena but i love the new ones i just miss the old ones
Mortal Kombat vs. Persona
Oracle: Can I say it, just once?
Scorpion: Only if you wish to suffer.
Oracle: "Get over here!"
Mk11 voices is the best. 👌
More appropriate
Agreed.
I couldn't agree more
No Patrick as scorpion is legendary
Completely disagree
Mkx Sonya all The way
MK X Cassie for the win! Way more sass! Love it 😊
*I LOVE THE NEW VOICE ACTORS ACTUALLY! ESPECIALLY CASSIE CAGE!! WOAH!! AND RONDA ROUSEY!! MAN! SONYA COULD BE A WRESTLER IN NO TIME!*
I forgot how bad kitana looked in mkx lmao
And In mk x?
I dont see why ppl dont like the new sonya I think she did good just the old one
A lot of people still hate Rousey. I never hated her but did feel she needed her ego cut down; which of course happened. I don't care now. I too think she did a fine job. Side note, you have probably seen the new skins that just came out. Glad they brought Bridget Wilson back to voice Sonya.
@@adamdavidsoddities8573 I agree
She isn't a professional voice actor, and you can simply hear it in her lines. Her being cast as Sonya, was clearly just a marketing gimmick.
It would’ve been great if they got Cynthia Rothrock to voice her being that’s who her character is based off of. Ronda sounds like she’s reading 😒
@Paul Jakens no she is not good or bad she is okay
Wait ! The mkx kung lao actor is someguy in the good doctor XD
yeah he is
Dr. Park
I love MKX Karen Strassman.
very nice sound
She voiced Kitana and Mileena better than Kari
Was today years old when I found out that mkx Jax actor was the grim reaper from billy and mandy
im glad that most of the mk11 voices are more culturally appropriate
Yeah same
Man! I’m so sad Patrick Seitz didn’t come for Scorpion 😢😢
It's funny, I prefer MKX Mileena but prefer MK11 Kitana
4:42 (Older sis) and 4:57 (Little Sis) simultaneously and you got sisters who love to fight like the rest!
Ngl sindel’s mk 11 va is the best
Mk x voices are better
Kari is a great VA, but I dont like her as Kitana, especially Mileena. I like how Grey DeLisle voiced Kitana in MK Legends battle of the realms. I'd much prefer her to voice Kitana and Mileena in future MK games. I loved Karen too, but I dont know if shes coming back.
Karen and Kari were both phenomenal as Kitana but Karen will always be Mileena.
4:54 Ding Dong
TRICIA HELFER*?*?_?_??*?_ i can't believe i didn't know that
I liked Tricia Helfer sonya blade better than Ronda rousey
Y’all think Ronda was bad? Wait till you hear Megan Fox 😂
I love mk11 cassie cage voice. I hope they keep it for mk12!!!
MK X without a doubt, in particular Sonya Blade and Scorpion.
Ashly Burch Cassie is the superior Cassie. She went from cocky, snarky badass in MKX to the most stereotypical valley-girl Millennial ever in MK11
MK 11 fujin is the best
Kelly Hu is the same voice actor of D’vorah right?
Kelly hu 😍
Am I the only one who finds new Kano to be really hot? 😀
Liu Kang and Fujin mk11 - Matthew Yang King
I prefer MK11 Cassie Cage's Actress
MK11 all sound younger
The old scorpion is better
Mkx actors feel more attached to the character thier speaking than mk11
Mk11 voices feel more dramatized and over cinematic which is strange to actually hear what that sounds like
As a matter of fact I’ll do my pick for the actors in a minute
Why is no one talking about kung Lao
IMO I think mk11 scorpion is better. He sounds more connected to his Asian roots, and I think the mkx one kinda just sounded like a generic deep voiced villain.
I grew up playing Diablo, Starcraft, and Legacy of Kain games. The voice acting in mk11 isn't too bad and some is fantastic, but the earlier games sounded terrible in comparison. Those blizzard and Crystal Dynamics games and others like the KotR entries that I've heard the clips of but not played are also top notch.
Mk11 Jax is GREAT, totally fits the character but I haven't seen anyone else mention him, maybe it's just me. Of course Keith David makes them all sound amateur by comparison.
JB Blanc/Kano in MK11 is the best Kano voice.
MK11 Sonya not my thing... my guess is Tricia Helfer became too expensive for them, since she's famous for her voice acting, especially in games (voice of Kerrigan).
Famous for her voice acting? Ever heard of Battlestar Galactica?
cassie in 10 is better than cassie in 11 in diolouge, voice acting, AND max combos
Not to be mean or anything but Kari Wahlgren is a huge miscast as both Mileena and Kitana.....They should have kept Karen Strassman
Sonya The baddest woman on the planet and former RAW women's champion. Ronda Rousey
Jacqui both cecile and mari mccabe vixen
Sonya Blade is Ronda Roissy, no way!!!!!
Yep
Kung Lao and Liu Kang character model and voice changes are a lot better for the characters
MK11 is better imo
JB makes Kano more humorous than McConnohie. ;)
4:45 😂😂😂🤣
Mkx is obviously better than Mk11
Not gonna lie, I prefer Tricia's sexy voice over Ronda's rough sounding voice
Patrick Seiz > Yon Boun
Yeah, to me if they changed all the cast but not scorpion it was gonna be fine by me
The fujin actor is better but other than that they all suck in mk11
Mkx mostly. And They are all the same from mk9 as well. Besides sindel and sheeva I prefer their 9 actress they ruined sindel story wise and sheeva design wise. And they are superior to the 11 actors in almost every way. I do like a few actors in 11 but I would not replace the previous for them
okay, can we have a new protag? like Cassie or Johnny? I mean I hate Liu Kang ever since MK1 never really cared for the dude hope MK12 focuses on Sub-zero or Scorpion I mean the two of the most iconic duo in Fighting game history there like the Ryu and Ken of MK fuck Liu Kang.
Patrick Seitz
Kelly Hu
Matthew Yang King
Will Yun Lee
Tie
Kari Walgren
Mara Junot
Greg Eagles
Megalyn Echikunwoke
Erica Lindbeck
Tie
JB Blanc
Mkx
I prefer MKX voice actors morer...
Cassie in MKX has better voice actress, just because she sounds like Cage, Mk11 sounds like a school girl
Katana/Mileena MKX. Wtf, why she wasn't in mk11???? She gave that voice for Kitana/Mileena, that they needed...... Kari's Kitana is kinda mommy's daughter, and mileena is just mad ...
Sonya of course Tricia....
Kano is hard to choose
MKX sounds great but MK11 sounds more Australian
I think MKX is too good
mk11 frosts voice is so annoying
Ikr
Eh, she was always an annoying character
Thats good tho she is annoying so she has to sound annoying
NRS…please keep Mara for Sindel.
Where are Sub-Zero, Johnny Cage and Triborg? 🙄
Sub zero and cage shared the same voice actors in x and 11, and triborg was not in mk 11
@@son_of_sparda_dx It's in the story of the Triborg MK11. Just as he had put Fujin, he should have put Triborg as well. 🙄
@@gwendolynmkm-u5t triborg is defrent , he is not cyrax or sektor, he used there form to become one cyborg
Scorpion Mkx
Frost Mkx
Fujin Mk11
Kung Lao Mk11
Liu Kang Both
Kitana Mkx
Sindel Mk11
Jax Mkx by a lot
Jacqueline Briggs Mkx
Cassie Cage Mkx (I fucking hate mk11 Cass)
Sonya Mkx
Kano Mkx
mkx jax sounds like some homeless dude
And you for Raiden
Obviously MK11 Voice Actors are 100x Better than MKX, the MKX just sound so annoying specifically Kitana in mkx.
Nah she sounded like a warrior princess and all the MK11 VAs spund so generic. MKX is 1,000,000x better. Like it or not.
You spelt “Comparison” wrong. Just a heads up
no he didnt
@@Protoclick2264 oh shoot, he didn’t, thanks
@@featherpheasant3851 ur welcome
Voice actors for MK11 is better the mkx
Jesus christ, Ronda voice acting is just the worst. Its painful.
Kano in MK11 is so better
BEST GRAPHICS: MKX
BEST VOICE ACTING SKILLS: MK11
The heck are you talking about mk11 has much better graphics look again
You need glasses if you think X had better graphics
in mkx everyone looks like zombies
MKX had nice graphics but look at these facial animations in MK11. Also, MK11 has better skin shader (smoother, more fleshy and less sweaty) and has no bones jiggling around on fatal blows. MK11 has better graphics, but MKX graphics is decent for its time. I find voice acting roughly the same quality, but I think MK11 has better writing.
Mkx Mileena, Cassie and Jacqui were so much better. I hate Liu Kang's new voice. I didn't know Sindel was voiced by a black woman... Interesting
Mk11 voices are a lot more better IMO
Some are but definitely not Kitana and Mileena
@@lordronn472 ngl I personality like kitana in mk11 better with kari but not mileena needed karen back for her
@@thegamerMainlyfocalizer8352 I like Karen as both and Kari not so much